Four Scandinavian countries announced the creation of a joint air force to "oppose Russia"

Four Scandinavian countries are creating a joint air force to counter Russia. The combined grouping of the Air Force will cover the airspace of Denmark, Norway, Finland and Sweden. This is reported by the Norwegian edition of Aftenposten.

The Nordic countries create a joint military Aviation, the air force leadership of Denmark, Finland, Sweden and Norway have already agreed to create a joint air force. Logistics and planning is currently underway. In total, the combined Air Force grouping will include 250 military aircraft, which is comparable to the strength of the Royal Air Force of Great Britain or the French Air Force.

This decision was made against the backdrop of a Russian special operation being carried out on the territory of Ukraine, as well as fears of the transition of hostilities to the territory of Scandinavia. Individually, the Air Forces of these countries are nothing serious, but put together, they create a serious fist capable of confronting Russia throughout the Northern region. In addition, within the framework of the combined forces of the Air Force, it will not be necessary to require permission to cross the border of a state in the event of hostilities.

The ultimate goal is to be able to operate seamlessly together as one force by developing the Scandinavian concept of joint air operations based on the already known NATO methodology

- said the Danish Air Force.

According to experts, the training of pilots of the air forces of Denmark, Finland, Sweden and Norway will also change, if previously they were trained separately, now they will be trained jointly. In addition, combat planning and logistics will change. In general, the Scandinavians have grandiose plans. However, this decision cannot be called something so new, in 2020 Finland, Norway and Sweden signed a new defense agreement, in fact uniting their armed forces. It is worth noting that two of the four countries, Norway and Finland, have a common border with Russia.

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[Sergey Averchenkov]

Small, too small. The main enemy of the United States, and everything else is from the evil one.

[Quote Lavrov]

This is far from true. Like in the story of how hard it is to break one rod and their bundle.
There is not a single positive moment in any alliance against our country. NO ONE!!
But in general, yes, the plan to push threats away from our borders turned out to be somewhat more difficult to implement than it was in words.
And it is necessary to take new threats seriously, without underestimating any enemy.

[Glagol1]

They are armed with Saabs, American ef16 / 18, ef-35 is already on the way, 250 pieces is 2 times more than we have in the north-west. We will have to build up air defense, both strategic and border. We cannot achieve parity in terms of aircraft.

[Diger]

Quote: auto

Four Scandinavian countries announced the creation of a joint air force to "oppose Russia"

To retake the exam!
Scadinauia / Skandinavien / Skandinavia is a historical and cultural region in the north of Europe, covering the Scandinavian Peninsula, the Jutland Peninsula and adjacent islands (Gotland, Zeeland, etc.)
With a big stretch, you can include Iceland (but the main thing is not to drag it out). Finland has nothing to do with the "Scandinavian Peninsula". From the word at all.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote from Digger

Finland has nothing to do with the "Scandinavian Peninsula". From the word at all.

Even as it has, part of it is just located on the Scandinavian Peninsula. True, officially the Finns are not included in the Scandinavians, but ...

[Diger]

No, not included.
Not in biology, not in geology, not in language.
Task 4. On the contour map, mark Scandinavia, Rügen Island, Ladoga, Novgorod. Write the names of the largest rivers.

So you and its Estonians in the Scandinavians write down.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote from Digger

No not included

Territorially - partly included. And the biological and geological Scandinavian is just a new word in geography :)

[Diger]

I go there often
1. The biological world is still different.
2. Finns are different from the Scandinavians: both externally and in mentality and language (not a German group)
3. Before the Friedrichsham Peace Treaty in 1809, there was no spirit of Finland on the Scandinavian peninsula

4. Principal tectonic scheme of the Baltic Shield

"biogeological Scandinavian" is not mine.
*Skaðan- "danger, damage" + *awjo "land of waters, island".
Norwegians consider the nations of Celtic and Anglo-Saxon origin to be the closest in spirit: Irish, Scots, English, Icelanders

The Danes sincerely believe that being a Dane is a special privilege. In their hearts they sympathize with those who were not born Danes. They like to say that if all of Scandinavia is "a bowl of rice pudding", then Denmark is "a golden hole in the middle of this pudding full of melted butter"
The Swedes, being the closest neighbors of Norway, are perceived by them as people of a lower level of development. This is evidenced by a huge number of anecdotes and jokes in which the main character is a Swede.

For the neighboring peoples of Scandinavia and Iceland, the Finns themselves, more precisely, the then isolated and scattered North German and Finno-Ugric tribes, including the Saami, who inhabited the lands of the future Finland, were simply hunters.
in the XII century in the Icelandic "Saga of the Ynglings" - "country of hunters", "land of hunters".
The Eastern Finns are direct relatives of the Mordovians and other peoples currently inhabiting the Russian Urals.
Estonians are also genetically close to Finns.
The Finns are related to no less ancient Hungarians (Magyars), Karelians, Komi, Saami (they are also Lapps), Vod, Izhora, Veps, Livs, Mari (Cheremis) mountain and meadow, both branches of the Mordovians - Erzya and Moksha (otherwise - Erzya and Saloreikhe)

[Negro]

It would be better if you didn’t discuss geography, but shook the old days and washed down the review “VKS against the aviation of the countries of the former Kalmar Union for 2025”. This could be funny. It seems that comparing aviation with the whole of NATO is no longer relevant, khe-khe

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Negro

It seems that comparing aviation with the whole of NATO is no longer relevant, khe-khe

And what happened? NATO aviation (except the United States) has increased dramatically? :))))

[Negro]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

NATO aviation (except the United States) has increased dramatically? :))))

Weakened sharply. 5 years ago it was still possible to find a normal plane somewhere, MiG-29 or Su-22 there, and in a couple of years there will be only two hundred penguins on the northern flank alone (Finland + Norway + Denmark + Poland). As you and I know, penguins are completely unsuitable for cannon combat.

I would like to read how the MiG-35s burst into a flock, or rather a herd of penguins, like a bear into a chicken coop.

[Diger]

Quote: Negro

, but shook the old days and washed down the review "VKS against aviation of the countries of the former Kalmar Union for 2025"

what an oldie, what a review. I didn't understand.
and the Aerospace Forces .... The Aerospace Forces cannot cope with the stunted aviation of Ukraine. What is there to write?

[cold wind]

Andrey wrote a funny article where he compared the Russian Aerospace Forces and the Air Forces of European NATO countries.
https://topwar.ru/130894-rossiya-protiv-nato-sootnoshenie-sil-taktichekoy-aviacii.html?ysclid=lfny5e7zaf692289540

[Negro]

Quote from Digger

What to write here

There are a lot of jokes.

It is well known that Russia is the world leader in the field of electronic warfare and radio electronics. Therefore, the F-35 block 4, equipped with just an AN / APG-85, with its vaunted stealth has no chance in long-range combat against the MiG-29SMT, equipped with a much more advanced Zhuk-M radar.

Since the famous Khibiny module, capable of disabling all radio equipment and part of the crew of the Arleigh Burke-class destroyer, by itself excludes the capture of the Soviet AGSN aircraft of the AIM-120D missile, and super-maneuverability puts the clumsy AIM-9X out of the game, the outcome of the collision will be decided by a real male ram crossed out by cannon battle. What the enemy Air Force is obviously not capable of - men have long been banned there. Now there is only one pilot and two pilots - and where are they both / both of them up to the disciples of the great Tsymbal.

[Diger]

Mmmm. What do I have to do with this rubbish?

[Negro]

You? None.

The answer about shaking the old days is not on your post. Grandpas making jokes from 2017.

[Diger]

Quote: Negro

The answer about shaking the old days is not on your post.

and the arrow points to mine.
however ... not on mine, so not on mine

[sdivt]

There is a feeling that our SVO for many countries is just an excuse to get orders for weapons)
Well, it would seem, where are we with Ukraine, and where is Denmark? How do we intersect?) But - no, we urgently need to create something there, and, of course - "to confront Russia"))
I feel that soon some Vatican will unite with the Maldives, and everything is against Russia) Otherwise we will suddenly attack!)

[Negro]

Quote from sdivt

Well, it would seem, where are we with Ukraine, and where is Denmark?

Near. All the Balts have good relations with the Finns. Fraternal peoples, lived in one country for hundreds of years. Of course, they fought with each other in the past, but they have fought for a long time.

So we see the answer to the question "what if the next fake country that came out wrong from somewhere is Finland."

[ishinmaikl]

Completely on point...
We ourselves raise all these questions and concerns.

[ishinmaikl]

Well, how can I tell you .. Just recently, Medvedev said that Ukraine is historically Russian land .. What if tomorrow they will start talking about Finland the same thing ..

[igorbrsv]

So after all, she was part of our empire

[Petr_Koldunov]

Yes, this dandruff is of no interest to anyone ... If a conflict suddenly occurs, then if there is no support from the States, there will very quickly be no air forces of these countries ... just as there will be no countries themselves.

[spirit]

You count how many f35, that is, the fifth generation, there are and ordered from four of these countries and from us. And it would seem ...

[Negro]

Quote: spirit

You count how many f35, that is, the fifth generation, there are and ordered from four of these countries and from us

There and not with the fifth questions. The VKS remembers about a hundred Su-35s, which, without any particular reason, is considered a modern fighter. The rest - MiG-29, MiG-31, Su-27, Su-30.

Frankly speaking, against a full-fledged F-35 wing under AWACS (the Swedes have their own and the Norwegians have NATO), I would not bet money on this.

[donavi49]

Throwing hats is certainly easy. Here, for example, Sushki from a recent reportage - and there is no way to transmit them from where, if anything. That is, they survived a year of active databases. And yes, the photos are not from the archive, this quick recognition scheme appeared in the winter.

The Finns have some 50 Hornets. For a month of Konashenkov's work. However, in order 64 F-35.
Denmark has 30 F-16s and 24 F-35s in order, the first batch will arrive this year.

Norway received 20+ F-35s out of 42 on order. Actively work on missions to intercept.

The Swedes have the worst situation, because Grippens + underfunding, because there will be no big war, it’s better to give money for migrants. Now this is being reviewed, in the order of new Gripens + raising paper Gripens (which are cannibalized / not repaired) for 2-3 years.

[Andrey Moskvin]

They are already openly uniting against us, without any "if" or "in case" ...

[alexmach]

Finland is a Scandinavian country? I was surprised.

[Volunteer Marek]

Yes! We stirred up a hornet's nest. Every day news of our enemies joining forces. Too bad we don't have anyone to join. We fight ourselves. And, to win, by yourself.

[fa2998]

Quote: Quote Lavrov

And it is necessary to take new threats seriously, without underestimating any enemy.

You read such news - everything is remembered by our leaders - "ALL ACCORDING TO THE PLAN". The planners are worthless, they got into a swamp, from which I still don’t see a way out!
Only deadlines are added for criticism. It's the easiest thing!

[voyaka uh]

Three out of four countries have F-35s in service.
Only Sweden does not have a 5th generation aircraft.
The F-35 passes the S-400 class air defense relatively easily.
Capturing and tracking a target with a ground-based radar from only 30-35 km.
The F-35 itself confidently hits ground targets from 70-80 km.

[donavi49]

64+24+42 - to be precise, taking into account already signed contracts. Also - 3 out of 4 countries in NATO (except Sweden, which is not allowed by the Turks yet).

[blackcat]

Well, yes, after Ukraine, Putin has a direct road to Scandinavia, and grab the Baltic states purely along the way, Lavrov, as always, is right D.B. ...

[Blackmokona]

Quote: blackcat

Well, yes, after Ukraine, Putin has a direct road to Scandinavia, and grab the Baltic states purely along the way, Lavrov, as always, is right D.B. ...

There was simply no need to hysterically yell in all the media for almost a year that we would not attack Ukraine. Now everyone around is sure that they are next and they put a bolt on any of our statements, because they shouted the same thing with Ukraine that they would not attack

[Alexei-]

Quote: BlackMokona

Quote: blackcat

Well, yes, after Ukraine, Putin has a direct road to Scandinavia, and grab the Baltic states purely along the way, Lavrov, as always, is right D.B. ...

There was simply no need to hysterically yell in all the media for almost a year that we would not attack Ukraine. Now everyone around is sure that they are next and they put a bolt on any of our statements, because they shouted the same thing with Ukraine that they would not attack

They also shouted for a year that they would not allow it, another one on June 22, 41st.
Everyone who is in the subject (especially after the revelations of Hollande, Merkel, Poroshenko) perfectly understood what everything was heading for.
Yes, and today scribble that in the media, that on the fence, the same thing.
R.S.

[Anadyrean]

Club of fascist fans of Hitler is back together. Moska's wet dreams of revenge.