How the unfortunate "Reaper" was actually killed

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How the unfortunate "Reaper" was actually killed

I am the Reaper. Or rather, I was until they killed me. Cruel and uncivilized, and most importantly, not environmentally friendly! If I could speak...

If I could speak, I would tell you about what happened on this March day over the dark waters of the Black Sea, which may become my resting place.



The day did not foretell anything like that. Normal en-route flight, shooting and observation. Obtaining new information and transferring it to the Center. Routine... But it was in the last flight that I received so much new information that the matrices of the processors melted.

The flight was normal. There was nothing on the hardpoints, I flew unarmed, the tanks were completely filled, the AN / APY-8 Lynx II radar and cameras were working, transmitting the flight record to satellites and then to the Control Center.


The receivers (both) picked up a leisurely conversation between the two pilots. From it it became clear that they were looking for me. Two hardened killers on their Su-27s slowly (for their aircraft) combed the sky in search of me.

Yes, it was not easy to find me, I did not say that my transponder was disabled. Do not think that out of harmfulness or secrecy, in this area there is still civilian aviation it hasn’t been flying for a year, so I didn’t interfere with anyone at all and couldn’t create an air incident.

True, it was created by others.

I agree that it was not easy to find me. A lot of plastic, a lot of fuel, not only that can give a clear signal to the radar antenna. But these two were in no hurry and were looking for me calmly and methodically.

Even if I were given the opportunity to develop full speed, and this is already 400 km / h, most likely, this would make my pursuers laugh. There were no chances initially, and I continued to fly along the route, hoping that the radar of my pursuers would not notice me.

When the ether exploded after lazy exchanges of routine phrases, even I felt uneasy.

“Out, out, thirty on the right, japan, japan!”

It even became a little insulting, where does our Japanese allies have to do with it? After all, it can be seen with the naked eye that I am an American apparatus. Russians are generally wonderful, they even place the stress in their own way, on the last syllable... However, it came to me from the grid that the Russian soul is darkness, but I don’t know what it is. It's a pity.


Two planes passed so close that it was very difficult for me. Firstly, the turbulent flows decently spun me around, added jets of air from the engines, and I was also flooded with unburned fuel, which began to corrode the skin and penetrate inside, there, to my microcircuits.

The operator in the Center swore and twirled like a rattler, trying to get me out of a chaotic fall that could well have ended in waves. And he almost succeeded, the gyroscope howled, the blocks sparkled and warmed up, the operator recalled some historical personalities who, in his opinion, could help us - and a miracle happened! We were able to equalize the flight and began to gain lost altitude. We Americans generally try to go and fly to victory. So we have accepted.

But the wild and barbarous country also had its own principles.

I was caught up again, I was on autopilot, with a cruising speed of 250 km / h. And then something happened that I could only guess about, listening to the radio traffic.

Our Ukrainian partners very often uttered this phrase when they lost contact with the aircraft or drone: "Use, haplyk, vin call shovalsi". I didn't know exactly what it meant, but when my cameras saw it, even the soulless machine was scared. Because the reason for the disappearance of many aircraft from the air became clear.

Howalka. He went out on the wing of his plane, which was flying next to me, holding a howl in his hands. The operator stopped calling gods and demons, the demon was already there.


And this adept of the Lucifer regiment hit me. Khovalka. And I, of course, began to hove, that is, fall apart, because the blow of this Thor's hammer pierced the wing, destroyed the spar and turned five ribs into dust.

Doused with a sharp-smelling liquid, slightly sooty from the exhaust of the Su-27, with a broken wing that began to fold, I began to fall down again into the inhospitable waters of the Black Sea. And there I shoved, like many people who got into such a situation before me.

Cruel, ugly and unfriendly. Forgive me that the details of my design, filled with your (possibly radioactive) fuel, will poison the sea. But it's not my fault at all.



***


Probably, many will now call this the real buffoonery and they will be right. But my version is no worse than those that were thrown on the air and the Internet by the Americans throughout the day. Mine is even worse.

I understand the Americans who had $50 million dropped into the water. I understand it very humanly, but why was the transponder turned off if the flight was routine? After all, if it was included, this might not happen. The regulation was written a long time ago, and no one has canceled it. If the radars detect an air target that they cannot clearly identify and which does not have a transponder, then planes always fly to this target. Just to make sure that this is, for example, a passenger liner that has something broken, and not a bomber.

Of course, no one would ram a drone, the Su-27 is by no means suitable for this. It has fuel in its wings, a radar under a fairing in its nose, and taking a hit from a four-ton UAV that is flying at a speed of 250 km / h - well, this is stupid and dangerous at the same time.

The passage of our planes on supersonic for destabilization is, of course, possible, but again, the maneuver is not very safe in its essence. The UAV could really spin and throw it in the wrong place.

It seems to me that the “reaper” was not sent to the bottom on purpose. Although the target is large, there is not enough metal, so the response on the radar screen will be so-so. The transponder is off. They searched and flew by. They could also catch a wake, it's unpleasant, it could destabilize the device. And the operator could have blundered out of fright and sent the device in the wrong direction, aggravating the situation.

In general, it would be nice to show something more serious than a cartoon (albeit promptly drawn). Recorded from the Reaper's camera or satellite.

Although in principle, this does not make sense. That's all, the "Reaper" really hid in the waves ...
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  1. +43
    16 March 2023 03: 33
    It doesn't matter how, the main thing is that they dropped the Reaper. And do not fuck around where it is not necessary.
    1. +16
      16 March 2023 04: 01
      Quote: Good
      Don't fuck around

      Don't go anywhere! More will come! angry
      1. +12
        16 March 2023 11: 43
        Well, they don’t know sayings, they don’t know ...
        Long-nosed Varvara had her nose torn off in the market....
        Don't go into the water if you don't know the ford...
        Etc. And the dog is with them. am
        1. +5
          16 March 2023 16: 17
          Know, cricket, your hearth!
          Do not open your mouth at someone else's loaf!
          A fool - and they beat him at the altar!
          Stay at home - you'll be safer!
          All sisters - on earrings! laughing
      2. +8
        16 March 2023 12: 22
        Probably, many will now call this the real buffoonery and they will be right.

        Petrosyan has competitors with VO laughing
    2. +9
      16 March 2023 08: 51
      Quote: Good
      It doesn't matter how, the main thing is that they dropped the Reaper. And do not fuck around where it is not necessary.

      It would be lifted from the bottom and disassembled for parts.
      It is obvious that the Reaper was engaged in reconnaissance activities near the coast of Crimea and, possibly, target designation. Why can't we declare a no-fly zone around Crimea due to the conduct of the NMD and shoot down enemy drones regularly?
      1. 0
        16 March 2023 18: 20
        Because in neutral airspace it is not customary to shoot down other people's aircraft. And no one climbs into the Russian proper
    3. +3
      16 March 2023 10: 53
      I propose to make a suspended anti-drone ammunition in two versions -
      1) a tank with tar in half with sand that can be blown right in front of the drone's muzzle, clogging its air intake and devices (from the pitot tube to the chambers)
      2) tank with bearings and iron chips

      PS: just a barrel a la an external fuel tank, but front and rear hinged hatches that the servo pulls off
      1. +2
        16 March 2023 12: 32
        Quote: Last centurion
        2) tank with bearings and iron chips
        you are a viper...
        So nope with Western technology, it's democratic ...
        And again, what for us then this colander is full of holes, (licking carnivorously!) we are better off whole ...
        1. -2
          17 March 2023 01: 15
          In addition, it can fall on passing ships with people.
          1. 0
            17 March 2023 08: 13
            And who should swim there? Sumerians or NATO? So - and do not feel sorry even once!
    4. +3
      16 March 2023 12: 37
      Quote: Good
      It doesn't matter how, the main thing is that they dropped the Reaper.

      Ai-yay-yay-yay-yay dropped the Reaper
      The reaper was killed, killed
      Ai-yay-yay-yay-yay for nothing, for no reason, "Sushki" soaked ...
    5. -1
      16 March 2023 13: 00
      I didn’t understand what kind of vyser is this instead of an article?
      1. dSK
        +1
        16 March 2023 16: 55
        Soon the ubiquitous "journalists" will post video recordings of this historic meeting ...
        1. +1
          16 March 2023 18: 21
          The Pentagon has already posted, though very short
          1. +1
            16 March 2023 20: 46
            Quote: Oleg Zorin
            The Pentagon has already posted, though very short

            Nothing is clear, nothing is really visible. Well, as usual. They have sectarian materials, but they won't show it to anyone. Because they are secret. Nothing more out of the ordinary than the usual. ;/
      2. -1
        17 March 2023 09: 32
        I agree, the article - so-so - "Petrosyanism" of pure water. But just for the sake of comments it was worth writing it! ))
    6. +3
      16 March 2023 20: 57
      Quote: Good
      It doesn't matter how, the main thing is that they dropped the Reaper


      And don't fuck around where you don't need to

      good
    7. +1
      17 March 2023 08: 10
      And why the hell was the transponder turned off, if the mission is "peaceful" ?! After all, if the transponder does not respond, then FOR EVERYONE IN THE WORLD, this is an obvious terrorist! And identification cards can be drawn by ANY! So the Yankees, except for too smart themselves, have SOMEONE to blame! hi
      1. 0
        17 March 2023 10: 07
        Quote: aakvit
        And why the hell was the transponder turned off, if the mission is "peaceful" ?! After all, if the transponder does not respond, then FOR EVERYONE IN THE WORLD, this is an obvious terrorist!

        Seriously? And it's okay that our Air Force aircraft also regularly fly with transponders turned off - which is the reason for the constant protests of NATO.
        Or again their vile spies and our noble spies? wink
    8. 0
      17 March 2023 11: 59
      Quote: Good
      It doesn't matter how, the main thing is that they dropped the Reaper.

      If anyone dropped it, it's the Americans themselves. Everything they would do provocative setups. This, of course, is not "September 11", but as another provocation, the "Bailey incident", to "justify" the supply of more serious weapons and the invasion of "vacationers", is comparable.
    9. +1
      17 March 2023 20: 43
      The transporter is turned off, how to determine the nationality? Perhaps the device was transferred to the Armed Forces of Ukraine and carried out a reconnaissance flight in the interests of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. We are obliged to destroy the APU equipment in any form, both flying and crawling.
  2. +8
    16 March 2023 03: 49
    I like the version that the "Reaper" was instantly thrown into the sea by the operator, so as not to endure jokes about a soaked drone, I like it better.
  3. +17
    16 March 2023 04: 15
    Of course, no one would ram a drone, the Su-27 is by no means suitable for this.

    The author, I am outraged by your version ... am
    Firstly, the American UAV Reaper was attacking the base of the Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol and was already within 60 km to strike.
    Secondly, he did it covertly and vilely ... turning off the transponders.
    Thirdly, two of our peaceful SU-27 aircraft, with unsuspecting pilots, turned out to be on its way.
    In the fourth, the vile American aggressor attacked our planes, intending to shoot them down with the help of his propellers ... but he made a little mistake ... at that moment, our pilots opened their latrines and freed themselves from excess accumulated liquid .. it hit the top of the Reaper ... it’s his own fault, don’t go with cameras where they write ... you can get it in the forehead.
    So now it remains only to get the remains of the deceased from the bottom of the sea and dissect the inside to draw up an act of death from natural causes of the Reaper's UAV, which rested in the bose.
    Rest in peace.
    Hello Austin...send more.
    1. -3
      16 March 2023 09: 10
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      the pilots opened their latrines and got rid of excess accumulated liquid .. it got on the top of the Reaper ... it’s your own fault, don’t go there with cameras

      The SU-27 does not have the ability to drain fuel.
      1. +6
        16 March 2023 09: 37
        Why? There is such an opportunity - under the right and left tail booms there are special drainage, with a diameter of about 70 mm, if memory serves.
        There are no fuel receiving booms at 27m, that is, it is impossible to refuel in the air. And there is a reset
        1. +1
          16 March 2023 11: 20
          I am not a pilot. Therefore, it is not clear to me how it is possible to spray very high-octane fuel next to a considerable stream of a jet engine?
          1. +5
            16 March 2023 12: 50
            Yes, and I'm not a pilot)))
            For an emergency fuel jettison, the pilot needs to slow down the engines so that the cruising speed is about 400-500 km / h and take the appropriate flight altitude of no more than 1200 m, if memory serves. Thus, due to this, plus, again, aerodynamics, the ignition of aviation kerosene does not occur.

            The year of commercials in 2018, in the summer, had a chance to observe this phenomenon.
            The Su-35S product, which is still at the stage of factory testing, did not remove the landing gear during takeoff. It is clear that the flight with the props released could not continue, so the pilot for about 20 minutes, at extremely low speed, cut circles at an altitude of about (I think) 200-300 above the northern part of the airfield, dropping the same kerosene. The spectacle is quite beautiful, the discharged fuel was reaching for the product in the form of curlicues of some white and cream shade. Moreover, these curls very quickly melted in the air, irrigating the forest belt adjacent to the take-off with very high-quality kerosene.

            The most important thing is that on the Su-27,30,33,35 products, fuel dumping can be controlled, that is, roughly speaking, you press the button - the drain goes on, you press it again - the drain is stopped.
            And on the Su-24, as an employee of our unit, a former navigator of the same 24, explained, there is no such possibility, that is, he pressed "reset" - and that's it, it will blow with a fountain until the residue is not drained
            1. +5
              16 March 2023 14: 31
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              The SU-27 does not have the ability to drain fuel.

              https://t.me/Mikle1On/12315
              draining fuel (screenshots from the video of the crashed drone)

              Bent propeller blade
              1. -1
                16 March 2023 18: 21
                This is a frame glitch, all the blades are intact. And what you provided is called the stroboscopic effect. Inconsistency between the frequency of shooting and the movement of the propeller. There is frame distortion.
                1. +2
                  17 March 2023 01: 50
                  Quote: Soul of Russia87
                  And what you provided is called the stroboscopic effect.
                2. +2
                  17 March 2023 02: 32
                  what frame, there are 3 of these frames in 10 seconds of video pieces
              2. +5
                16 March 2023 20: 47
                You would also write that even the yellow stripes from the propeller blades, visible in the first episode, crumbled from the impact and therefore they are not visible in the final episode. bully Like: "On American TV they showed a video reconstruction of the meeting of the MQ-9 Reaper drone and Russian fighters over the Black Sea." bully
                And about the environment: the volume of technical gas released from the blown up branches of the joint venture is comparable to the 20-year emissions of 5,8 million cars.
          2. +5
            16 March 2023 15: 06
            spraying very high octane fuel?

            Is it high octane kerosene?
            1. +2
              16 March 2023 22: 01
              Pouring kerosene on the plane will not do anything, the plane will not fall from this. He flies in the rain and does not fall.
              1. +2
                17 March 2023 10: 05
                Quote: Fan-Fan
                Pouring kerosene on the plane will not do anything, the plane will not fall from this. He flies in the rain and does not fall.

                It's not so much about the quality of the liquid, but about its quantity. More than once or twice there were cases when an airplane caught in a heavy downpour "caught" an engine surge. And here it’s not even a jet engine, calmly through the air intake it could “suck in” so much kerosene that the engine simply could not “digest” it
          3. +3
            16 March 2023 21: 24
            Quote: goland72
            I am not a pilot. Therefore, it is not clear to me how it is possible to spray very high-octane fuel next to a considerable stream of a jet engine?

            I’m not a pilot either, but this possibility is provided for all combat aircraft, if I’m not mistaken, when for some reason an aircraft has to land with a full combat load (rockets, bombs, etc.), then so as not to break the chassis (if you also have to land with full tanks because, due to the weight limit, the chassis of combat aircraft is designed to land with full ammunition, BUT only with partially filled tanks), then part of the fuel is dumped. And there are no problems with dumping because the drain holes are behind the air intakes. There is a danger to the aircraft only if fuel enters the engine air intake. This can cause a surge stop or even an engine fire. If the fuel gets into the engine jet for the aircraft, it does not matter. Even if the engine is in afterburner mode (then there is an open flame for a meter and a half behind the engine), the fuel is unlikely to ignite (especially at high altitude), but even if it does ignite, it will happen behind the aircraft, and in the mode even max. there is no flame behind the engine. Only burnt fuel.
            1. +1
              17 March 2023 00: 21
              We add that before an emergency landing, they are released not only from fuel, but also from cast iron. There is a "no explosion" mode in which the bomb is unhooked, but the fuse is not cocked, so as not to bomb its own territory. The product falls and simply burrows into the ground. Usually at low speed, with a small height.
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      2. +1
        16 March 2023 18: 23
        Why do you think so? There is such a possibility
      3. +2
        16 March 2023 20: 50
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        the pilots opened their latrines and got rid of excess accumulated liquid .. it got on the top of the Reaper ... it’s your own fault, don’t go there with cameras

        The SU-27 does not have the ability to drain fuel.

        Any aircraft has. The whole point is to what level it will merge. Somewhere dosed. Somewhere before the rest for a couple of landing approaches. But everyone has.
  4. +19
    16 March 2023 04: 52
    I am the Reaper. Or rather, I was until they killed me. Cruel and uncivilized, and most importantly, not environmentally friendly! If I could speak...

    If I could sing ditties:

    Fly over the Black Sea
    I thought in silence.
    And killed, but not with grief,
    Rested at the bottom.

    I was the pride of NATO
    Perfection right.
    How did it happen that pro$rato
    Three dozen lyams?

    They say over the sea
    Will fly...
    stupid sheep,
    Just idiots...
  5. +6
    16 March 2023 05: 00
    That's all, the "Reaper" really hid in the waves ...
    And fell to the bottom, the Black Sea itself. And not a fic, to rise so high.
    1. 0
      17 March 2023 08: 20
      Well, just like the ever-memorable Icarus, chesslovo! But ischo the ancient Greeks warned ... drinks
  6. +7
    16 March 2023 05: 10
    Why are the Americans making such a fuss? Money spent? It's nothing. The Black Sea itself attracts their attention. To stake out this place for yourself for future sorties. We have not raised the problems of the Black Sea for a long time. But Americans have been worried about it for a long time. If earlier our lane was the distance from Izmail to Batumi. Now it has decreased. And even what Russia has now haunts America.
    1. +8
      16 March 2023 05: 32
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      And even what Russia has now haunts America.

      Most likely, the United States is haunted by the growing ambitions of Russia, China...
      Where has it been seen that in the neighboring hemisphere someone dared to "liquidate" American property? By what right?
      If, following the example of Russia, all countries, united and concluding an alliance (agreement), begin to do the same?
      The system of the unipolar world is beginning to crumble before our eyes. The further, the stronger and more frank will be anti-American attacks.
      I still don’t understand what can be achieved by sticking your head in the sand like an ostrich ...
      They warned... They didn't want to listen... Please, gentlemen, rake to the fullest, because we are not satisfied with your worldview.
      And one more thing ... If you put sticks in the wheels - you will end up in the dustbin of history ...
    2. +1
      16 March 2023 11: 18
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      Why are the Americans making such a fuss?
      Distract from the investigation of the terrorist attack on the northern streams.
  7. +9
    16 March 2023 05: 23
    Shoot down always, shoot down everywhere,
    Rockets bring down and from the gun!
    Wet! So that no nails -
    Here is the slogan of Mig and Su-shki!
  8. +5
    16 March 2023 05: 53
    And exactly does the SU-27 have a forced fuel dump ??? I am tormented by cloudy doubts, because a parallel with the legend of KUK-KHIBINA suggests itself stupidly. Yes, they blew him the fuck off and the whole story ... were they looking for him with binoculars-eyes, or was the regular OLS used as technical vision?
    1. +1
      16 March 2023 08: 36
      And exactly does the SU-27 have a forced fuel dump ???
      Here is a retired test pilot Magomed Tolboev also spoke about this on TV yesterday. Indeed, he doesn’t seem to have a fuel drain, it’s only available for heavy vehicles. And the Su-27 has the ability to supply fuel to the afterburner without turning it on. The effect is the same. In the late 80s, Orion was flooded over the Barents Sea from the same Su-27s.
      1. +8
        16 March 2023 08: 46
        Everything is there, and draining in flight and at the airport. Magomed just became old, he began to forget the technical part.
    2. +4
      16 March 2023 09: 02
      No forced. There is an emergency drain system. Activated manually by the pilot
  9. 0
    16 March 2023 06: 27
    perhaps in vain, many did not believe about the diarrhea of ​​the Cook crew when Su also mocked him.
    Perhaps everything is in a successful application against this "reaper" of electronic warfare equipment.
  10. +6
    16 March 2023 07: 08
    Another thing is possible, the United States is preparing the ground for the introduction of its fleet into the Black Sea. It's trite - the Russians pilot their planes badly, what if tomorrow they drown a ship with grain.
    1. +3
      16 March 2023 08: 57
      Absolutely right - the Americans have already turned to Turkey to revise the Montreux Doctrine, so that Turkey would ensure the passage of American ships to the Black Sea. The Turks are already thinking about this, what kind of goodies they can bargain for this from the Americans. If they agree, then American warships will be in the Black Sea on a permanent basis.
      1. +2
        17 March 2023 00: 37
        Let amers through the Straits? And lose Russian grain, gas, S-400, tomato market, Akkuyu gas station, cheap oil from Novorossiysk, tourists, support against the secession of Kurdistan? What is America to replace and overpay them?
        1. +1
          17 March 2023 01: 26
          And who said that they will lose it? So far, the reaction of our administrative staff, headed by the president, usually consists of poking into the bushes and threatening silence from there.
  11. 0
    16 March 2023 07: 33
    Most likely, there will be much more such flights. Or it already has. It is very important, especially after telephone conversations, not to give in to "enemies-partners." This is our territory, this is our space. The leadership would have had enough spirit! And now they will say, "The deal is under threat!", "Let's defuse the situation!". What I want to answer is that this is not our deal and we did not create tension at our borders.
  12. +3
    16 March 2023 07: 34
    Judging by how the Runet exploded from this, in general, news of little importance, it is clear that the people are already tired of the constant co-operation of the authorities and are just eager to "gasp". But I think that's where it ends, unfortunately.
    1. +2
      16 March 2023 09: 30
      Even more. Americans have such a feature to turn everything in their favor. And in this case, everything will be the same. I don't even doubt it. Most likely, their warships will now be in the Black Sea, and the "Reapers" will be escorted by NATO aircraft, plus they will come up with something else. And we ... And we will rejoice at such pamphlets as in the article and ... that's all. And then we will be "surprised" to examine American and NATO ships in "neutral waters" from Sevastopol ...
      1. 0
        16 March 2023 12: 38
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        then we will be "surprised" to examine American and NATO ships in "neutral waters" from Sevastopol ...

        What if the cable suddenly stops working?
        And yesterday, the Swiss SUISSE Bank began to beg for money, referring to the collapse of American banks ...
        And how will it go further - x (s ..
        And then maybe the USA doesn’t have enough money to drive ships in the World Cup
  13. +1
    16 March 2023 07: 48
    The news passed on the "soap", our Minister of Defense, with their Minister of Defense, discussed this incident, only the results were not written.
  14. +1
    16 March 2023 07: 53
    Quote: viktor_ui
    And exactly does the SU-27 have a forced fuel dump ???


    Why shouldn't it be? The option is very necessary. Since the plane cannot land with full tanks: the landing gear will not withstand the load. So they drain the fuel if there is a sudden need to land immediately after takeoff.
    1. -2
      16 March 2023 11: 27
      Quote: Illanatol
      the chassis will not withstand the load

      There is fuel - the cat cried ...
      1. +2
        16 March 2023 18: 29
        Well, how can I tell you ... 12 tons of fuel there. Not a tanker, of course, but...
        1. 0
          17 March 2023 01: 54
          Quote: Oleg Zorin
          Well, how can I tell you ... 12 tons of fuel there

          9600 kg full charge
  15. +2
    16 March 2023 07: 59
    If there were 90 years, someone would tell about what really happened. Although yesterday, Naryshkin, for those who were especially incomprehensible, told how it really was, in a very simple Aesopian language. He literally said the following: We know the characteristics of your reapers, respectively, those objects that he can monitor and the object of special interest to you were hidden deeper, so that your reaper would have to go further than usual, so that he would not have time to dump (usually they ran away after taking off our interceptors, still visible to the Americans). On the ground, accordingly, they prepared in order to quickly reach the reaper, and then the worked out options (the author probably forgot how our su-27 (the Americans did not know that he could fly at low speeds, Orion reduced the speed to a minimum) put the fairing (of course, it blew it to smithereens) under Orion's screw, forcing him to put on his pants and retreat from our secret objects.We have been preparing this operation for a year, we are tired of directing orcs at our fighters.For those who like to laugh at our red lines, we carried it out, who did not hide, we are not to blame.And most importantly reward the pilot, even if by secret decree, but reward.
    1. +1
      16 March 2023 14: 39
      If you are talking about the Tsymbal case, then Orion is Norwegian, not American. If about the case with Reaper, then the characteristics of the Su-27 are known to any aviation enthusiast, there is nothing secret in the performance characteristics of the machine. The Americans are well aware of the Su-27's stall speed.
      1. 0
        17 March 2023 08: 36
        And Norway is not NATO? And from whose direction THEIR plane was dragged behind other people's secrets?! am
        Or should we also remember the U-2 over the Urals? negative
    2. +2
      16 March 2023 18: 32
      I think this is a brilliant plot for an alternative history novel. I was especially impressed by your pretentious "we were preparing this operation", it's like a cherry, like the apogee of your awareness. By the way, did the command give you permission to disclose the details of the operation?
  16. +9
    16 March 2023 08: 40
    ...And one big but very proud drone said: "I want to fly to the Crimea!" And it flew farther and farther until it fell to the very bottom, the Black Sea itself!!!... So let's drink to the fact that none of the drones, no matter how far they fly, never breaks away from the borders of their state!
  17. +1
    16 March 2023 08: 55
    Mustache, haplyk, wine is called shovalsi. I didn't know exactly what it meant

    Howalka.
    Why is this, why should I read a military review with a dictionary
  18. +4
    16 March 2023 08: 56
    Firstly: someone else should answer for NORTHERN STREAMS (let's turn on the calculators, taking into account lost profits?).
    Secondly: publicly punish pilots (with promotions, receiving bonuses, vacations, state awards) so that they know how to behave correctly.
    1. +5
      16 March 2023 14: 57
      Quote: RoninO
      Firstly: someone else must answer for NORTHERN STREAMS
      The drone did not fall because of the "flows". Before the drone flew to the Crimea, over Europe, the B-52 simulated a missile attack on St. Petersburg, most likely this was the reason why the Reaper's life was shortened.
  19. -5
    16 March 2023 09: 08
    Regarding the “littered” drone, I don’t understand the general rejoicing (((
    Previously, the capitals were taken, under the tsars Paris and Berlin, under the Soviet regime also Berlin, and now they have arranged a nationwide holiday with this drone (((
    But this is a drone, and the festivities are simply outrageous in all media!
    A real win!!!
    That's just the point, that all in all - "overcome", and not Victory !!! (((
    This is how it is necessary to degrade in order to “overpower” over a drone to pass off as outstanding actions (((
    "Reindeer breeder" resign!
    1. +1
      16 March 2023 09: 14
      You apparently have grief ... that the American UAV fell ... grief, what grief ... cry, it will feel better.
      1. -1
        17 March 2023 08: 39
        Yes, no, this is again a bulky desman crawling, all the green paper is not enough for him, he is working out the bonus! drinks
    2. +3
      16 March 2023 12: 41
      Quote: Andrey the Magnificent
      This is how it is necessary to degrade in order to “overpower” over a drone to pass off as outstanding actions (((

      A click on the nose? No, have you heard of this?
      1. +1
        16 March 2023 22: 40
        A drone is a drone for that, so that you don’t grieve too much about its loss. If a manned aircraft is a consumable compared to pilots, then a drone is even cheaper. Well, the same type of drugs was shot down by the Libyans, and the Yemenis, and some other partisans. The resident evil - the United States - of course shuddered from these losses, but so far it seems to have resisted. Ergo: ours are great, but the episode definitely does not decide the fate of the world
  20. -6
    16 March 2023 09: 20
    Kills that again no true information. The author here invented a stupid version that this drone fell down after the second passage of Drying next to him. But there were two Russian planes - that is, a pair that usually fly together - next to each other. And this means that, according to the author of the article, there would be only one passage! Whereas the Americans claim that the Russian planes made 19 turns around the Reaper. Who is lying?
    And the media disinformation did not even bother to report: at what height did this damned Reaper actually fly? After all, its maximum flight altitude is 15 km - and it takes a very long time to fall from such heights ... And if there was no structural destruction before the fall, then it would be possible to get out of the spin. And if he flew at a low altitude - then what could he see but 60 km?
    In my opinion, he was simply shot down by a wake from a close flight of Su, just like Powers' U-2 scout broke the Su-9.
    1. +6
      16 March 2023 11: 56
      Quote: geniy
      as well as the reconnaissance U-2 of Powers broke the Su-9.

      As far as I remember, Powers was dumped from the S-75.
      1. +3
        16 March 2023 12: 42
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Quote: geniy
        as well as the reconnaissance U-2 of Powers broke the Su-9.

        As far as I remember, Powers was dumped from the S-75.

        Remember right
      2. -5
        16 March 2023 14: 10
        As far as I remember, Powers was dumped from the S-75.

        You remember correctly, but you misunderstand. The fact is that the story of the downing of Powers is completely falsified to please Khrushchev. In fact, all the missiles missed this reconnaissance aircraft, and not only near Sverdlovsk, but even earlier. In fact, U-2s first flew over Baikonur and photographed it, and failed to bring down the missiles. Moreover, over the border he was attacked by the same Su-9s as the lone Su-9 near Sverdlovsk - but they fired homing missiles but missed, because he dodged. Then the U-2 flew over the missile range with anti-aircraft missiles - and again everyone missed. And this U-2 sing further. And all anti-aircraft missiles near Sverdlovsk also missed. And only the Su-9 went to ram (I think that he used up his missiles). And with a wake, he destroyed the U-2. and Khrushchev was told that he was allegedly shot down by rockets.
        1. +2
          16 March 2023 14: 22
          Quote: geniy
          and Khrushchev was told that he was allegedly shot down by rockets.

          And what was Khrushchev told about the downed MiG-19? Powers hit with a pistol?
          1. -5
            16 March 2023 14: 37
            And what was Khrushchev told about the downed MiG-19? Powers hit with a pistol?

            Here's the thing: if the plane is actively maneuvering, then it is very difficult to hit it with a rocket - almost impossible. This is because an airplane has wings of great mercy - and a rocket has a small one. A rocket has worse maneuverability than an airplane. And Powers maneuvered. But the MiG-19 was landing and did not pay attention to Soviet missiles.
            1. +1
              16 March 2023 14: 49
              Quote: geniy
              But the MiG-19 was landing

              After the U-2 disintegrated in the air, the radar operator mistook the fallen debris for enemy radar jamming. In the heat of battle, no one could understand whether the missile hit the target or the self-liquidator worked, the intruder was destroyed or not, and how many targets were in the air. Therefore, it was decided to work on U-2 further, and the neighboring S-75 air defense division fired a volley at the target. One of the missiles of the second salvo nearly hit the Su-9.

              The same missile salvo hit two MiG-19 fighters chasing the intruder. The car of Sergei Safronov was shot down, the pilot died, and his partner, who managed to notice a missile coming towards his plane, managed to get out of the attack in a dive.

              https://ria.ru/20150501/1061347295.html
              1. -4
                16 March 2023 15: 26
                mordvin 3 - chickpeas so what do you want to say?
                After all, I correctly explain that Powers was actively maneuvering and the missiles did not hit him, but he was actually shot down by a Su-9, destroying it with a wake, like a notorious reaper. And don’t explain why Powers wouldn’t have been shot down immediately while crossing the Soviet border, where he was attacked by two Su-9s with missiles. And also during the project over Baikonur and at the range with anti-aircraft missiles.
                1. +2
                  16 March 2023 16: 06
                  And I gave a link. From there:
                  the pilot was ordered to destroy an American reconnaissance aircraft by ramming. However, due to the errors of the guidance operator and the failure of the onboard radar station, the ram did not take place. The pilot was only able to make one attempt due to lack of fuel, since the Su-9 could climb to such a height only with full afterburner...
                  ... At a distance of 30 kilometers southeast of Sverdlovsk, Powers changed course, turning 90 degrees. Plesetsk was his next target.

                  At this time, the U-2 entered the zone of action of the missile battalion, which was armed with S-75 anti-aircraft missile systems, which were put into service in the late 1950s and capable of hitting targets at an altitude of more than 25 kilometers.

                  At 8.53 hours, the first S-75 SAM missile fired approached U-2 from behind, but the radio fuse went off prematurely. The explosion tore off the tail of the plane, and the car, pecking with its nose, began to fall. Pilot Powers did not use the ejection seat.

                  I read about Powers back in the early 80s, took a book from the library, but they didn’t write about our downed plane there.
                  1. 0
                    16 March 2023 21: 47
                    Quote: mordvin xnumx
                    And I gave a link. From there:
                    the pilot was ordered to destroy an American reconnaissance aircraft by ramming. However, due to the errors of the guidance operator and the failure of the onboard radar station, the ram did not take place. The pilot was only able to make one attempt due to lack of fuel, since the Su-9 could climb to such a height only with full afterburner...
                    ... At a distance of 30 kilometers southeast of Sverdlovsk, Powers changed course, turning 90 degrees. Plesetsk was his next target.

                    At this time, the U-2 entered the zone of action of the missile battalion, which was armed with S-75 anti-aircraft missile systems, which were put into service in the late 1950s and capable of hitting targets at an altitude of more than 25 kilometers.

                    At 8.53 hours, the first S-75 SAM missile fired approached U-2 from behind, but the radio fuse went off prematurely. The explosion tore off the tail of the plane, and the car, pecking with its nose, began to fall. Pilot Powers did not use the ejection seat.

                    I read about Powers back in the early 80s, took a book from the library, but they didn’t write about our downed plane there.

                    Still would. Who would write that we shot down our own. As I already wrote, I was shocked when I found out that ours had been shot down. It just can't be
                    but .... Very interesting, but this case plus service in the USSR Air Force influenced my choice to continue in aviation
                    If not for the 90s. Maybe still a navigator in civilian life. 55 is not old. And so, just a cop. Former cop.
                    1. +1
                      17 March 2023 02: 05
                      Quote: Grim Reaper
                      Pilot Powers did not use the ejection seat.
                      If my memory serves me right, then he was lucky with the catapult, since there was a mine in the chair, driven by the launch of the catapult. The Americans did not plan to leave the life of the pilot in force majeure circumstances.
                2. 0
                  18 March 2023 21: 15
                  "Powers actively maneuvered" - on the U-2? At an altitude of 20 km? What weed do you smoke, brother?
            2. +1
              17 March 2023 10: 13
              geniy
              if the plane is actively maneuvering, then it is very difficult to hit it with a rocket - almost impossible

              You are definitely a genius))) Read about U-2. If he will actively "maneuver" - then he will simply fall apart in the air. And at such a high altitude, the stall speed is slightly less than cruising speed. And when maneuvering, your "maneuverable U-2" would most likely fall into a tailspin, in which its fragile structure would simply collapse.
              For a missile, this is just a "standing" target. In addition, the rocket does not explode when it hits the target exactly, but at a certain distance. Even a radio fuse is worth it. So more area of ​​damage. So maneuvers would not help. In Vietnam, C-75s were shot down by much more maneuverable Phantoms, Thunderchiefs and Skyhawks (and Skyhawks are a very maneuverable aircraft!).
              Su-9, by the way, flew without weapons (did not have time to complete), and had an order to ram the U-2. But the S-75 hit earlier
          2. +1
            16 March 2023 15: 13
            Quote: geniy
            And only the Su-9 went to ram (I think that he used up his missiles).
            Read the material on this event in Wiki (it has no discrepancy with more informed sources)
            1. -1
              16 March 2023 16: 51
              it has no discrepancy with more informed sources)

              Yes, the only trouble is that Vik's encyclopedia is based on falsified sources on many topics. Here you think about how many mistakes there were. First, when flying over the Soviet border, the radar officers allegedly incorrectly determined its height of 9 km, and sent MiG-15s to intercept. And according to my information, there were two MiG-9s there, but they could not hit it with their missiles. Then this U-2 flew over Baikonur and took a picture - but for some reason it was not shot down again! Then he flew over the Sary-Shagan range with anti-aircraft missiles - and he was not shot down again! In the end, near Sverdlovsk, the radar officers again made a mistake and allegedly incorrectly pointed Mentyukov's Su-9 at him. Moreover, he claims that he dodged anti-aircraft missiles. Then, from 3 rockets, 2 rockets did not even leave the guides - for this the division commander had to be shot! And this is not to mention the fact that the neighboring division generally opened fire on Soviet aircraft, and one of them easily dodged missiles
        2. 0
          16 March 2023 22: 30
          It seems to me alone that the ceiling of the SU-9 was significantly lower than the ceiling of the U-2?
          1. 0
            18 March 2023 21: 21
            There is a practical ceiling, when a steady level flight is possible, and there is a dynamic ceiling, which the machine can reach on a "slide". The Su-9 tried to get the U-2 on the "dynamic ceiling", an undertaking that is still unpromising, so there is no particular faith in all this talk that the Su-9 shot down the U-2 with a wake.
        3. +2
          17 March 2023 01: 32
          No, the U-2 was shot down with the very first missile, and then they fired into the sky for a long time, thinking that they had not shot down, while shooting down a Russian interceptor.
      3. +1
        16 March 2023 21: 02
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Quote: geniy
        as well as the reconnaissance U-2 of Powers broke the Su-9.

        As far as I remember, Powers was dumped from the S-75.

        As far as I remember, he was brought down like a third missile. The first missed, the second shot down our plane. And only the third brought down u2. So our teacher on NVP told, in the distant 80s, the beginning. Since he was in those days near Aramil in the USSR Air Force. And he came to school as a teacher with the rank of major. Well, what he said is what I write. Maybe true.
        1. -2
          17 March 2023 00: 20
          As far as I remember, he was brought down like a third missile.

          That's it, that the entire Russian people only remember this. The Communist government then deceived the entire Russian people, and this deception continues to this day.
          No one knows that immediately after crossing the border, the U-2 would have been attacked by two Su-9s, then, over Baikonur, missiles were also probably fired at it. Then, anti-aircraft missiles were again fired over the Sary-Shagan training ground. And everyone remembers just what happened near Sverdlovsk.
      4. +1
        17 March 2023 00: 48
        You remember correctly, but some people get very bored of dealing with the same truth all the time. And soon you will be informed about modern interpretations ... laughing
  21. +8
    16 March 2023 09: 49
    It was necessary to state that it was not Russia that shot down the American drone, but some pro-Iranian partisans who rented a hang glider in Germany and kicked the drone to death. That's all, America itself suggests such excuses. What is the problem?
    1. 0
      16 March 2023 18: 43
      The problem is that the military leadership of the Russian Federation (unlike you) realized that the drone is equipped with video cameras and the aircraft will be perfectly visible. Well, and (unlike you) we decided not to buffoon
  22. +5
    16 March 2023 10: 13
    It turned out to be a good response to an imitation of a blow to Peter. Because nope!
  23. +2
    16 March 2023 10: 35
    How the unfortunate "Reaper" was actually killed
    And the reaper, and the fallen from the sky, and drowned under the water.
  24. 0
    16 March 2023 11: 02
    Quote: parusnik
    That's all, the "Reaper" really hid in the waves ...
    And fell to the bottom, the Black Sea itself. And not a fic, to rise so high.

    How Icarus fell into the sea, set out to rise closer to the Sun... crying
    1. 0
      16 March 2023 12: 43
      Yes, right - "Icarus" .... Birdie.
  25. +2
    16 March 2023 11: 10
    Don't go there - go here! Kerosene head will fall - you will be completely wet!
  26. +3
    16 March 2023 11: 16
    The question is how much the Americans will benefit from this incident.
    And they will, no doubt.
  27. +4
    16 March 2023 11: 19
    Of course, no one would ram a drone, the Su-27 is by no means suitable for this.

    The Norwegian "Orion" also thought so. smile



    But fortunately for him, the Norwegian had four engines.
    1. 0
      17 March 2023 10: 08
      Quote: Alexey RA
      Norwegian "Orion" also thought so

      But he didn’t know that the Legend of the USSR Air Force - Vasily Tsymbal, went to intercept him,
  28. 0
    16 March 2023 12: 23
    Interesting story, a pleasure to read. Unlike the writings of the ovs, which they inflated beyond measure.
  29. -1
    16 March 2023 14: 04
    It is not in vain that they say - do not run ahead of the locomotive. The author, hurried with an article that does not carry meaning - he himself shoved. For the records from the Reaper have already been published. And everything is perfectly visible, how and why.
    1. +2
      17 March 2023 00: 56
      Not records. Computer animation. "According to the stories" of the video recorder.
  30. +2
    16 March 2023 14: 13
    Quote: Luminman

    There is fuel - the cat cried ...


    ...only 12 cubic meters. Or about 9 tons. The cat cried too much... laughing

    https://structure.mil.ru/structure/forces/air/weapons/aviation/more.htm?id=10365632@morfMilitaryModel
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  32. -4
    16 March 2023 14: 31
    Quote: Last centurion
    I propose to make a suspended anti-drone ammunition in two versions -
    1) a tank with tar in half with sand that can be blown right in front of the drone's muzzle, clogging its air intake and devices (from the pitot tube to the chambers)
    2) tank with bearings and iron chips

    PS: just a barrel a la an external fuel tank, but front and rear hinged hatches that the servo pulls off

    Hang a bag of deadwood under the fuselage, Petrosyan.
    I cannot understand the general joy from a dropped (not shot down) reconnaissance drone. This is stupid unnecessary escalation at the level of childishness in the sandbox.
    1. -1
      16 March 2023 19: 14
      Because this is the sandbox of the Stalinists))
      Here, any stone in the boot of the damned bourgeois imperialists causes fierce joy. And neither the context nor the consequences of events matter.
  33. -2
    16 March 2023 14: 32
    B7 greetings from Argentina.
    There was such an ancient term for buffoons, it sounded like this - "fool".
    I count myself in this ancient profession - to mock. :)
  34. -1
    16 March 2023 14: 49
    They posted a video from Reaper and I didn’t understand why he fell to be honest. The propeller is intact, the chambers are intact, after the flight it did not even swing in the air. For some justification of the Americans, according to the video, he really did not carry any weapons, and there were not even pylons for missiles.
    1. 0
      16 March 2023 15: 46
      Quote: Soul of Russia87
      Screw whole

      What a whole it is, two blades are bent.

      1. 0
        17 March 2023 00: 31
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        Screw whole

        What a whole it is, two blades are bent.

        In fact, the blades there are made of composite.
        The composite does not bend, but only breaks or frays.
  35. +2
    16 March 2023 14: 54
    Enough speculation! Here's how it went:
    https://e2-upvideo.rbc.ru/archive/2023/03/16/960979.5___mp4/720p.mp4

  36. +2
    16 March 2023 16: 10
    One of the test pilots said no kerosene, no one poured it over him, no one bit off his tail, the Su-27 used a maneuver called pitching, and such accelerations occur that the propeller was torn off the raptor ... or maybe the wings
    1. -1
      16 March 2023 16: 48
      and here it is more important to declare a bright nonsense about draining fuel, about blows, dives and so on. no one will think, even if only that an impact at a speed of 600-700-800 km / h (taking into account the difference) will lead to catastrophic consequences and crushing destruction of the engine nacelle, wing or keels. USE in action
      1. +2
        17 March 2023 01: 01
        There is no 600 km/h difference there. The propeller at the Reaper is behind, the course is catch-up.
      2. +1
        17 March 2023 09: 46
        Quote from: QuestionsNeudobny
        impact at a speed of 600-700-800 km / h (taking into account the difference)
        Yes, there was no such difference. "Sukharik" braked dynamically, which was perfectly visible in the video.
        Quote from: QuestionsNeudobny
        lead to catastrophic consequences and crushing destruction of the engine nacelle, wing or keels. USE in action

        And it would not hurt you to study this issue from a historical point of view ... For example, about the incident in the sky over the Barents Sea on September 13, 1987
  37. -1
    16 March 2023 16: 44
    but in fact we will dance both ours and yours for five kopecks. but it was painfully far from funny and for the most part cloying to the point of vomit. it is necessary in the same style accusatory and incendiary, but also hiley liking. then it looks like it. because no matter how much good is written, it is important not to write bad
    besides, no traces of fuel (supposedly drained!) can be seen on the lens. how is that???
    1. 0
      17 March 2023 09: 47
      Quote from: QuestionsNeudobny
      besides, no traces of fuel (supposedly drained!) can be seen on the lens. how is that???

      But nothing that this camera is from the bottom of the fuselage
  38. +2
    16 March 2023 17: 23
    oh reaper, reaper... what are you looking for in a distant land? what did you throw in your native land? I would fly myself over the Gulf of Mexico, I would be safer ...
  39. +2
    16 March 2023 17: 53
    The Pentagon has already shown you a cartoon from the Walt Disney Company how they sprinkled the reaper with kerosene, why are you still inventing your own fairy tales?
  40. 0
    16 March 2023 18: 14
    In general, it would be nice to have something more serious than a cartoon
    Yes, for God's sake, everything is for you, Roman] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D19Ay8yAK4Y
    1. -1
      17 March 2023 01: 04
      100% cartoon, visible by 10+ features. No video or on-board camera recording.
  41. +1
    16 March 2023 18: 47
    Gyroscopes howled .... sounds pathetic. Only if he has mechanical gyroscopes.
    1. +1
      16 March 2023 19: 57
      Quote: Pavel57
      Gyroscopes howled .... sounds pathetic. Only if he has mechanical gyroscopes.

      In the control box, the photons of the ring laser gyroscope, forced to work, howled furiously. Under the wing of a drone waves rolled over the pier and fell down with a swift jack ©. laughing
  42. 0
    16 March 2023 19: 10
    Come on! There was no collision, but the screw allegedly bent. Question from what? The best weapon for the "driver" of an aircraft as a car is a MOUNT, better than a titanium one. So she fell out of the plane and accidentally hit the drone ...
  43. +2
    16 March 2023 19: 22
    Three missiles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, possibly a Chimera, were shot down over Belgorod. Debris fell on the city. The woman suffered a severe head injury. So why can't we shoot down the "Reaper", which has dragged itself to Sevastopol in the declared war zone? You need to do it on purpose and even with a good video and even spread it on the net.
    1. +1
      16 March 2023 20: 14
      Quote: Alexey Lantukh
      So why can't we shoot down the "Reaper", which has dragged itself to Sevastopol in the declared war zone?

      As I understand it, he was hanging out on neutral territory. And over the Crimea, ours today shot down some kind of UAV.
  44. +2
    16 March 2023 23: 34
    As far as is known, the American drone is built using stealth technology. This means that its design contains a minimum of metal and a maximum of composite. And we can say with absolute certainty that the blades of its propeller are probably made of composite materials such as carbon or fiberglass.

    And now attention - a question!
    Is it possible to deform a composite aircraft propeller blade in such a way that it is in a bent state, and at the same time it does not become tattered, as is usually the case in such situations?
  45. +2
    16 March 2023 23: 53
    Quote: Oleg Zorin
    And no one climbs into the Russian proper

    Except for the British destroyer "Defender" and the unfortunate Korean "Boeing".
    In addition to the troops of Genghis Khan, the Teutonic Order, vassals of the Ottoman Empire
    and herself... Etc. and so on . Napoleon Bonaparte, Crimean War. Occupation
    the British of the Arkhangelsk province, and the Japanese and Americans of the Far
    East to Civil? Up to the "Wehrmacht" and the incident on the island
    Damansky?
    1. -1
      17 March 2023 14: 43
      Please give examples of violations of Russian borders. But demagoguery is not necessary, we are not at a rally
  46. -1
    17 March 2023 01: 58
    This drone is like a snail compared to jet planes. He had few chances.
    The Americans made the mistake of sending him.
  47. 0
    17 March 2023 06: 36
    the video from the reaper differs from ordinary cameras, some kind of high-contrast ... as if something else is superimposed on the image, more information ...
  48. +1
    17 March 2023 09: 34
    One hundred percent a new one will fly ... and most likely they will cover it ...
  49. 0
    17 March 2023 09: 45
    I'm no expert, so I'll just ask. When crossing the sound barrier, a not frail shock wave is formed; If we calculate the transition to supersonic in the UAV area, and even in the twin, this is at least a loss of control. Is this option plausible?
  50. +1
    17 March 2023 10: 19
    There's too much concoction here. With a close passage of a jet aircraft, a very powerful wake vortex arises. This is enough for a more serious aircraft. And the Reaper / Predator has a rather fragile design (in fact, a glider with a motor), and its control system is not designed to recover from a stall, spin or inverted flight.
    If the drying took place on the afterburner (or afterburner was turned on when they walked by), then the situation for the pepelats is even worse
  51. 0
    17 March 2023 11: 10
    An American MQ-9 Reaper drone was found in the Black Sea with the help of an underwater robot. It was discovered by an underwater robot at a depth of 850-900 meters. The South Stream gas pipeline runs not far from the location. The crash site itself is currently being guarded, and a Russian warship is on duty in the search area on the surface. In addition to reconnaissance, this “reaper” can carry 1,7 tons of explosives on board.
  52. +1
    17 March 2023 11: 50
    As it turned out in this situation, the Americans told the truth))) and several visits and draining fuel and a bent propeller))
    1. 0
      17 March 2023 17: 21

      there are rumors that the message is short and does not contain information
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  54. 0
    17 March 2023 12: 54
    The version is not optimistic, although it is plausible. What does the fact of acquittal of the Russian Defense Ministry indicate? Like, they didn’t want to, it just happened that way. And where are they, the red lines?
  55. -1
    17 March 2023 14: 30
    Considering that he fell not far from the gas pipeline, I assume that he was dropped SPECIALLY by the Stars and Stripes themselves. If the BC explodes on it, the gas pipeline is damaged - the Americans are in chocolate, and they will blame Russia.
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  57. 0
    17 March 2023 15: 56
    That’s where the reaper belongs, let the Yusovites in America fly away from the borders of Russia.
  58. 0
    18 March 2023 16: 37
    Left, right, now faster. Man - who has whom, I you, or you me?
  59. 0
    23 March 2023 02: 36
    "A wolf in sheep's clothing." Perfectly suited for such scribblers. Why did you put on the uniform?