Jens Stoltenberg announced NATO's refusal to supply Ukraine with cluster-type ammunition

Ukraine's attempt to get cluster munitions from NATO failed, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg officially announced his refusal to supply these munitions to Kyiv.

From the very beginning of the special military operation of the Russian army, the Kiev regime has been looking for opportunities to purchase or accept as a gift cluster munitions for artillery systems. The first appeal was to the United States, which has a large number of such artillery shells in its warehouses, but Washington refused. The thing is that US laws prohibit the supply of this type of ammunition to other countries.

However, in Kyiv they did not give up attempts to get hold of ammunition. At the end of last year, information appeared that allegedly Turkey was supplying Ukraine with shells with a cluster warhead, but this was denied in Ankara. New evidence surfaced in January that a certain NATO country wishes to supply the Zelenskiy regime with cluster munitions. As it turned out, Estonia decided to act as a sponsor, whose Defense Minister Hanno Pevkur said that he did not see any problems in this.

Whether the Estonians delivered shells to the Armed Forces of Ukraine is not reported, but within the framework of the Munich Conference, representatives of Ukraine requested cluster munitions already from NATO. According to Ukrainian Foreign Minister Kuleba, Kyiv did not sign a convention banning the use of such ammunition, so the alliance could become generous and supply shells to the Ukrainian army. Moreover, we are doing one thing - we are destroying Russia.

However, all appeals were in vain, NATO decided not to supply the Armed Forces of Ukraine with ammunition of this type. Whether this ban applies to Estonia is still unknown, but most likely yes. Moreover, the Estonians have German shells in storage and they cannot transfer them without the permission of Berlin.

NATO did not recommend or supply these types weapons. We supply artillery and other weapons, but not cluster bombs

- declared Stoltenberg.

Comments

[aszzz888]

Ukraine's attempt to get cluster munitions from NATO failed, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg officially announced his refusal to supply these munitions to Kyiv.

But not officially? Who knows there, except for themselves, what NATO is rushing into unnecessary?

[Tatyana]

Quote: aszzz888

But not officially? Who knows there, except for themselves, what NATO is rushing into unnecessary?

That's right!

Stoltenberg is just a talking head of NATO to divert the eyes of the Armed Forces of Russia and the world!
Russia definitely cannot trust the Russophobe Stoltenberg!
Stoltenberg will lie - he will take it cheap!

[Constantine N]

He is not speaking for Russia, but is trying to convince the rest that they are white and fluffy

[dmi.pris1]

No one promised about the supply of HARM missiles either, but hohlov has them

[rotmistr60]

Ukraine's attempt to obtain cluster munitions from NATO failed

When the NATO Secretary General suddenly categorically refuses to supply cluster munitions to Kyiv, to be honest, it is alarming. Given their vile insides and the habit of casting a shadow on the wattle fence, it cannot be ruled out that such b / n are already being supplied. Moreover, there was information about the use of French-made cluster shells by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

[Carat]

Quote: rotmistr60

When the NATO Secretary General suddenly categorically refuses

The NATO Secretary General is a civilian. His business is to push competent speeches. The military may not even inform him.

[Fizik13]

This homosexual, Jens Stoltenberg, from NATO, is like a red-faced girl of marriageable age - sometimes I won’t give it, sometimes I won’t.
That's what it means to deal with the west, they promise from 3 boxes and then turn on the reverse gear.
And how they soared our brains with the SP-1 and SP-2 gas pipelines.
We have already figured them out, but the rest of the world has not yet.

[DefenderofTruth]

Yes, they have either already installed everything, or they will install it soon and then ...

[Optimus Prime]

Civilians are "grateful" for any shells. From Belgorod to Kherson

[tralflot1832]

Is this how to classify 155 mm shells!? The French seem to supply something similar for their Caesars. An explosion above the ground and a cone of fragments down the circumference.

[Bogalex]

Vass has strange ideas about classification.
A cluster projectile is not "Explosion above the ground and a cone of fragments down the circumference." Thus, under certain conditions, any conventional high-explosive fragmentation projectile can be blown up.
A cluster projectile is an ammunition containing submunitions - fragmentation, cumulative fragmentation or any other type of submunitions.
For example, here are cluster warheads for the Uragan MLRS (top-down): for remote anti-tank mining, fragmentation, for remote anti-personnel mining and incendiary.

[Gemini]

And such a difference will the surface be immediately hit by fragments over a large area, or will the cassettes be scattered first and then blown up?

[Bogalex]

There is a difference.
The fact is that an ordinary projectile, when detonated, forms a very uneven fragmentation field - the fragments mostly scatter to the sides, and almost nothing in front of and behind the detonation point.
When a cluster munition is detonated, not only is a much larger area covered, but also individual submunitions approach the ground almost vertically, creating an almost uniform fragmentation zone around the point of their detonation.
But there is also a drawback to CAS - the complete absence of high-explosive action.

[Saburov_Alexander53]

I wonder if we use cluster munitions? It seems that Grad and Tornado have this regular warhead on a par with others.

[Bogalex]

The "Grad" and "Tornado-G" - no, the "Hurricane", "Smerch" and "Tornado-S" - yes.
When you see such remnants in TV reports, then this is precisely a cluster shell.

[evgen1221]

Option two, we’ve already set it up and now it’s not necessary to burn it, we won’t set option two ourselves, but we won’t mind if the Poles buy them from us and we don’t know what they will do with them.

[Pavel_Sveshnikov]

It's amazing, for a long time already on the box they showed the use of cluster munitions by the outskirts, moreover, 155 mm caliber - that is, NATO. The outskirts itself began to produce this - it is very doubtful. Stoltenberg lies like a gray gelding. He hangs noodles for the local audience. And they themselves supply everything they can, and most importantly, it’s not a pity.

[Bingo]

It’s clear, it’s a lie, already dozens of testimonies on camera with the discovery of exactly the stuffing from the cassettes have themselves leaked, yeah ... Well, it’s like fairy tales that Ukraine doesn’t use anti-personnel weapons either - why, they signed and ratified the convention! And in general, according to it, they should have been destroyed a long time ago, yeah.

[rocket757]

Jens Stoltenberg announced NATO's refusal to supply Ukraine with cluster-type ammunition

. The tales of the Vienna Woods... have lied before, and will continue to lie.

[Alexey Lamonov]

I DO NOT BELIEVE ! Surely they have already been delivered and scanned in the right places.

[Petr_Koldunov]

"NATO did not recommend or supply these types of weapons. We supply artillery and other types of weapons, but not cluster bombs," Stoltenberg said.

It means that they are already supplying a lot!