Deputy Chairman of the Security Council Medvedev announced the production and modernization of thousands of tanks in Russia

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Deputy Chairman of the Security Council Medvedev announced the production and modernization of thousands of tanks in Russia

At present, enterprises of the Russian military industry are hard at work on the production of new weapons and military equipment. One of the most important tasks is to produce enough tanks.

Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev told how the Omsk Transport Engineering Plant produces tanks for the Russian armed forces. He noted that in the conditions when the Ukrainian army is begging the West for planes, missiles and tanks, Russia has no choice but to increase the production of various types of military equipment and weapons.



We are talking about the production and modernization of thousands of tanks needed to win.

Dmitry Medvedev emphasized.

Since the beginning of the special operation, the Russian military industry has been working literally in three shifts. Many enterprises are rapidly recruiting additional workers, technicians and engineers, as the orders of the military department have increased significantly.

To conduct a successful offensive in all key areas of the front, Russia needs as many tanks, artillery pieces, armored vehicles as possible, as well as rockets, shells and cartridges. Military-industrial complex enterprises are trying to provide the army with everything necessary. Moreover, we are well aware that, unlike Ukraine, asking for supplies weapons and we have no special ammunition.

By the way, the most understanding Western experts have long noted that the West is losing to Russia in terms of the ability to promptly mobilize the production capacities of the military-industrial complex, and it is this circumstance that will win even when trying to impose a “war of attrition” scenario.
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  1. -3
    9 February 2023 17: 17
    Deputy Chairman of the Security Council Medvedev said about production and modernization Russia has thousands of tanks
    Well, with production, he got excited (hot, very hot, right?) Modernization is also good. feel But T90 is better. request But we won’t stretch them even 100 pieces / month, I guess. recourse
    1. -17
      9 February 2023 17: 19
      Why did he get excited? At least 800 new T-90Ms a year should be mastered. I hope that the mass production of the T-14 Armata tank was also meant. Otherwise, why did it take so many years to create, test it, if not for mass production and supplies to the Army? 1 and Vacuum-2 for the T-14 would be very useful against the same Leopard 2A6.
      1. +6
        9 February 2023 17: 23
        Wake up!!! laughing Medvedev meant the modernization of T-62 tanks wassat tongue laughing
        1. 0
          9 February 2023 17: 42
          Quote: Crown without virus
          Wake up!!! laughing Medvedev meant the modernization of T-62 tanks wassat tongue laughing


          Why are you laughing so much? Have you seen enough of the Marathon of the 95th quarter?
          On January 19, 2023, the UK Department of Defense released a report showing that Moscow is considering introducing T-14 main battle tanks to Ukraine. In late December 2022, at least two T-14s were spotted on satellite imagery of a training ground in southern Russia that became a springboard for the offensive last February. Will the confrontation between the best-selling Leopard 2 tank in the West and the most modern Russian T-14 tank have an impact on the military situation?


          It is estimated that the equivalent resistance of the turret and the front of the hull of the machine reaches from 900 to 1000 millimeters RHA. In turn, in Leopard 2, under the same conditions, this figure ranges from 680 to 700 millimeters. A simple comparison of the offensive and defensive capabilities of the two vehicles shows that the T-14 can defeat the Leopard 2 at long range. As for the power plant, the T-14 has a 12-cylinder liquid-cooled turbocharged diesel engine with a capacity of 1,5 thousand horsepower at 2 thousand revolutions per minute. It is built in an X-shape. The tank is equipped with a 12-speed automatic transmission. The engine is quite compact, which facilitates its internal layout. The power/weight ratio ranges from 30 to 31,25 horsepower per ton, which makes the machine very manoeuvrable. The Leopard 2 power plant is manufactured by MTU, which has a reputation for being a reliable manufacturer. The power-to-weight ratio is 23,8 horsepower per ton, but it is less maneuverable than the T-14 due to its heavier weight.

          https://inosmi.ru/20230201/t-14-260209480.html
          1. +2
            11 February 2023 02: 50
            Armor - no. The bunch that went to the parades - do not count. You need to compare serial products, and not what Uncle Vasya riveted in the garage
        2. +13
          9 February 2023 17: 50
          and t-62 and t-72. Who specializes in what, he does it. For loya victory is really needed thousands tanks. And not just tanks.
        3. +4
          9 February 2023 18: 30
          Very funny .. In fact, the T-80s are being upgraded .. Up to the T-80BVM ..
        4. -5
          10 February 2023 05: 15
          Well, those that your brothers Bandera abandoned, we are repairing and into battle. Good car to finish all the rot))))
      2. +5
        9 February 2023 17: 26
        Quote from Orange Bigg
        I hope the mass production of the T-14 Armata tank was also meant.

        The T-14 will reveal its full network-centric potential only in combination with the Coalition-SV, BMP T-15 and Kurganets-25.
        1. +2
          9 February 2023 17: 35
          Or in combination with the same T-90M tank.
        2. 0
          9 February 2023 17: 42
          Great, we will wait for the appearance of many thousands of units of this equipment in the troops!
          1. 0
            9 February 2023 18: 03
            Are you serious, or are you joking? No, if Leopards1, M60 and the like go to Ukraine, then T62 will probably be in the subject
            1. yho
              +5
              9 February 2023 18: 06
              It's time to remember about the "St. John's wort" SU-152.
      3. +10
        9 February 2023 17: 28
        Quote from Orange Bigg
        I hope the mass production of the T-14 Armata tank was also meant

        Already not even funny.
        1. -16
          9 February 2023 17: 34
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Quote from Orange Bigg
          I hope the mass production of the T-14 Armata tank was also meant

          Already not even funny.


          What do you find funny here?
        2. 0
          9 February 2023 18: 19
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Quote from Orange Bigg
          I hope the mass production of the T-14 Armata tank was also meant

          Already not even funny.

          And they don't laugh at someone's...
          Quote from Orange Bigg
          On January 19, 2023, the UK Department of Defense released a report showing that Moscow is considering introducing T-14 main battle tanks to Ukraine. At the end of December 2022, at least two T-14s were spotted on satellite imagery of a training ground in southern Russia,
          1. +2
            9 February 2023 19: 07
            Why two? The Telegram channel has a video in the public domain about how a tank battalion on the T-14 is in combat coordination in the Donbass ... Yes .. so far only one ..
            1. 0
              10 February 2023 05: 18
              Well, how modern Amer's coffins on wheels will go and let's release. In the meantime, the T-90 for the eyes.
          2. -8
            9 February 2023 21: 19
            Quote: your1970
            that Moscow is considering introducing T-14 main battle tanks to Ukraine.

            Almost like that old joke:
            - And here we will throw our tanks!
            - What all?
            - Yes, both!
            How many Armats do we have? When were they shown and how much more time should pass for them to enter the troops en masse?
            1. -5
              10 February 2023 05: 19
              National Bandera-Polish anek)))
              1. -2
                10 February 2023 05: 52
                Quote: Synoid
                National Bandera-Polish anek)))

                This is part of a joke about the Chinese, originally from the 60s.
        3. -5
          10 February 2023 05: 17
          Europe has not been laughing for a long time, fluffy creeps up. Oriental for sure)))
      4. -3
        9 February 2023 19: 11
        There is no talk about Leopards 2A6 yet .. Germany seems to have 250 of them .. Only Leopards 1 .. But will they go .. or the Germans will cloud the question .. Let's see ..
    2. +3
      9 February 2023 17: 22
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      But T90 is better.

      We also have a lot of them that are not modernized, like about 500.
    3. +7
      9 February 2023 17: 41
      Open sources report that one UVZ produces up to 30 units. per month, if Omsk makes the same amount, then 100 pieces, on the scale of Russia, a real figure ... And 100 per month is very decent soldier
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      2. -3
        9 February 2023 22: 47
        "Hearing about Omsk, my jaw dropped ..."! Kind people! Is Omsk still capable of making tanks? belay After all, it has long been written that the "tank building" was finished off at the Omsk plant! The Omsk plant has already managed to "become famous" for the production of "sturgeon and caviar! True, there was hope to save" something "when there was a message that an order had been transferred to Omsk for the modernization of the T-80! But it was, in general, then a long time ago!
        1. -3
          10 February 2023 05: 21
          So go to the factory, and don't spread rumors. You can even get a job if you have something else working besides the language)))
    4. yho
      +1
      9 February 2023 17: 51
      But T90 is better

      And what can you say about the T-80BVM - junk or standing tank?
      1. +2
        9 February 2023 18: 17
        Quote from Yoho
        And what can you say about the T-80BVM - junk or standing tank?

        On the T-90M, the tower is better protected compared to the T-80BVM.
        1. +2
          9 February 2023 18: 33
          It all depends on the level of modernization .. Otherwise, the tanks are almost the same .. Except for the power plant .. The t-90 is a diesel engine .. the t-80 is a gas turbine .. Both options have their advantages and disadvantages ..
    5. -5
      9 February 2023 18: 50
      Quote: Mavrikiy

      Well, with production, he got excited (hot, very hot, right?) Modernization is also good. feel But T90 is better. request But we won’t stretch them even 100 pieces / month, I guess. recourse

      Uralvagonzavod can produce up to 300 tanks a year.
      1. +1
        10 February 2023 05: 21
        I love Jewish Natsiks - they all know that)))
    6. +3
      9 February 2023 19: 13
      Compared to American tank production of 12-14 units per month ...
      1. 0
        14 February 2023 19: 02
        Compared to American tank production of 12-14 units per month ...

        If these guys need it, they will give out a hundred a day. Well, it's just that our and their machine park is not comparable at all. But the fact that they do not do this, hints that, in their opinion, this is not an option, and most likely they are preparing something new.
    7. 0
      9 February 2023 20: 02
      But T90 is better. request But we can't get them even 100 pieces/month, I guess. recourse

      What 100 pieces per month are you talking about?
      Production (and not modernization) of 100 pieces and even 50 pieces per month is very, very much.

      A couple of months ago, the news slipped through that the armored plant in Transbaikalia was planning to modernize 800 T-62s in 3 years!

      800 T-62 tanks are being modernized in Transbaikalia

      The 103rd armored repair plant in Atamanovka is to deliver eight hundred modernized T-62 tanks to the troops within three years
  2. +2
    9 February 2023 17: 22
    Iron is a necessary thing, but as I understand it, there are no problems with the crews ?!
  3. +5
    9 February 2023 17: 22
    I do not think that with the existing capacities it is possible to increase the production of modern equipment at times.
    1. -2
      9 February 2023 17: 35
      [quote = Ulan.1812] I don’t think that with the available capacities it is possible to increase the production of modern equipment at times.
      Already and quite a long time increased at times. Now times are military, because I won’t say exactly how many grams to hang for any marmalade ...
      Reply
    2. -8
      9 February 2023 17: 43
      Quote: Ulan.1812
      I do not think that with the existing capacities it is possible to increase the production of modern equipment at times.

      Since the days of the USSR, quite a few mothballed underground factories have remained
      A sort of city under the city .. I know for sure that I started working and at full capacity they are recruiting Melters, the country needs steel and a lot
      So I think it all starts in an adult way .. The West just won’t lag behind Russia until it gets some bread.
      1. +9
        9 February 2023 17: 56
        There were no underground and mothballed tank factories. There was Kharkov, Leningrad, Tagil and Omsk. Today, only Tagil can produce new tanks. There is no Leningrad, Ukrainians have Kharkov. Omsk is only capable of repairing/upgrading tanks.
        1. yho
          -5
          9 February 2023 18: 09
          Nothing, it will be necessary - we will build new factories.
          1. -6
            9 February 2023 18: 31
            Quote from Yoho
            Nothing, it will be necessary - we will build new factories.

            I think this is already happening.
            Quote from: blackGRAIL
            Today, only Tagil can produce new tanks. There is no Leningrad, Ukrainians have Kharkov. Omsk is only capable of repairing/upgrading tanks.

            Well, there’s no need to describe everything so gloomily, maybe we just don’t know a lot .. Preparations for this SVO began in 2008 .. We’ll manage, the main thing is without whining and alarmism.
      2. +8
        9 February 2023 19: 03
        Stop spreading stories.
        1. -4
          9 February 2023 19: 16
          Well, why, at once, fairy tales?
          They said he is not Dimon for you.
          I think the position does not allow telling fairy tales, well, if only a little.
          But we know, "a fairy tale is a lie, but there is a hint in it,
          good fellows, lesson! hi
    3. +4
      9 February 2023 21: 10
      Quote: Ulan.1812
      I do not think that with the existing capacities it is possible to increase the production of modern equipment at times.

      Well, it's simple arithmetic. How much do you think the production of equipment has grown if, instead of an 8-hour working day, the existing capacities began to be loaded around the clock?
      1. yho
        0
        9 February 2023 22: 14
        Also very interesting. And how much?
  4. +4
    9 February 2023 17: 24
    Quote: Ulan.1812
    I do not think that with the existing capacities it is possible to increase the production of modern equipment at times.

    Depending on what, officials can tie reference points in such a way that it will turn out dozens of times
    1. +6
      9 February 2023 17: 28
      That's for sure - it doesn't matter how much they produce, it's important how they count. Modernization of the T-62 in the T-62M, why not upgrade?
      1. +4
        9 February 2023 18: 37
        Modernization .. especially since after such a modernization, the T-62 m become quite competitive against the same Abrams of the first series and against Leopards 1 that have not undergone modernization .. And just such Leopards are planned for delivery .. (with a 105 mm rifled gun)
  5. +9
    9 February 2023 17: 27
    In the Omsk region, 310 people were employed at defense industry enterprises in January. (Infa in the public domain, OZTM in VK)
    1. -3
      9 February 2023 17: 47
      How many have retired/died/retired? Or states increased by hundreds of units?
      1. +4
        9 February 2023 18: 22
        Quote: Al Manah
        went to retired/died/retired?
        300 people per month
      2. +8
        9 February 2023 18: 38
        exactly what increased .. Recruiting up to 1 workers ..
  6. +1
    9 February 2023 17: 28
    Something from such a phrase, voiced by not the last person in the state, somehow became completely uncomfortable recourse
    It is about production and modernization thousand(!!!) tanks, needed to win

    Or are you still planning to reach the Bay of Biscay? laughing
    1. 0
      9 February 2023 17: 44
      Yes, where is it.
      Just equip the newly created units, and make up for losses. Well, it looks like a little extra Medved sufficed.
      1. 0
        9 February 2023 17: 50
        Quote: alexmach
        Yes, where is it.

        Well, I hope you saw the sarcasm request hi
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  8. -1
    9 February 2023 17: 30
    it looks like the West just wants to knock out all Russian equipment so that the military-industrial complex cannot cope ...
    1. +3
      9 February 2023 18: 40
      The only tank factory in the US can produce 12-14 tanks per month..
      1. yho
        +5
        9 February 2023 19: 00
        Wikipedia says that Abramov was released in total more than 10 thousand. What you have is enough for a lifetime.
        1. +2
          9 February 2023 21: 19
          Quote from Yoho
          Wikipedia says that Abramov was released in total more than 10 thousand. What you have is enough for a lifetime.

          I will answer in your style fool smile
          Wikipedia says that about 72 T-30s were produced in total - enough for two lives.
          1. yho
            -2
            9 February 2023 22: 40
            T-72 was cut a lot for scrap. How much - no one will say.
  9. +5
    9 February 2023 17: 32
    No, we will not draw out a war of attrition. Not that system. We have capitalism. And barbaric and irresponsible. It's pure arithmetic... And it's impossible to ride endlessly on the heroism of our guys. And, a war of attrition will require heroism not only on the front lines and in the factories. Are we ready for this? Don't think. In any case, now. Brains are not rebuilt. We don't have real allies. No. And, here's another thing, did you figure it out with the fifth column? No. That's it!
  10. +7
    9 February 2023 17: 36
    They complained about the lack of engineers ... Close to hell with all the courses of lawyers-economists, enough for 50 years already. Engineers, CNC turners, highly qualified welders and mechanics are needed.
  11. yho
    -16
    9 February 2023 17: 38
    In Omsk, the Black Eagle tank was developed with the ability to install 152 mm guns in the turret. She must tear the Leopards and Abrams to shreds. What if we arrange the production of these tanks?
    1. +8
      9 February 2023 18: 01
      Omsk as a tank factory is no more. There is no equipment for the production of these tanks. There is no request from the military for a version of the T-72/T-90 with a 152mm cannon.
      1. +1
        9 February 2023 18: 44
        It will press, there will be a request and funding and equipment supplies .. So far, we are cutting the NATO in Ukraine like a bull to a heifer with the existing backlog .. We have thousands of the same T-80s at storage bases and in open areas, mothballed and just standing there .. Repair and repair Upgrading is an order of magnitude cheaper and faster than doing from scratch ..
    2. +6
      9 February 2023 18: 05
      Of course it needs to be fixed. It's very simple, he said "cook a pot"! And "Black Eagles", and "Armata", and "Coalitions" and other weapons immediately climbed out of it, and most importantly: in large quantities, just have time to ship to the NWO. Yes
      1. +4
        9 February 2023 19: 48
        And trained crews from the same pot, and competent commanders from the same ...
  12. +9
    9 February 2023 17: 46
    You can not take seriously the words of this deputy chairman of the Security Council Medvedev. He said a lot of things during his premiership and presidency. Somehow he lost all confidence.
    1. +2
      9 February 2023 18: 48
      Medvedev did not come here on a private visit, but "on behalf of and on behalf of." So everything he said was not a gag, but state policy .. so I would take his words more seriously .. In any case, we will quickly see it - just words or they will be supported financially and materially..
      1. +2
        9 February 2023 19: 12
        Since the beginning of February, Medvedev is already the third head with authority to visit OTMZ. They manage online. One question is, what is needed for production? Hands, smart heads and salary.
  13. +2
    9 February 2023 18: 02
    If you think about it, it's just a PR for the unloved by the whole country "sleeping"
    No numbers, no dates, nothing.
    and as for modernization ... they continued to modernize them before the NWO, and after, and after, after ...

    But in reality, they recently reported that they began to install simplified sights, there are not enough nominal ones ...
    1. -1
      9 February 2023 18: 50
      and who told you that about sights .. would you share the source of information? And then there is a counterintelligence colonel sitting nearby, jumping up and down with impatience to find out your source ..
  14. +4
    9 February 2023 18: 06
    "extra workers" - true. The husband says that, they:: a large order from the MO, but there are not enough workers. In 2020, they cut about 140 (I forgot how much), and now: 95 have returned, they don’t want the rest
    1. yho
      -2
      9 February 2023 22: 35
      And what, even remotely no one wants to work?
  15. 0
    9 February 2023 18: 15
    As I understand it, there will be a modernization of the T-62, T-72 and T-90, and the production of these same tanks. Maybe Uncle Dima better understand why in 15 years Armata only 30 pieces were produced and mass production was not established.
    1. +3
      9 February 2023 18: 32
      Here recently there was an article about the fact that even the T90-M has "excessive power" for the SVO, and you are talking about "Armata" ...
    2. Alf
      -1
      9 February 2023 19: 24
      Quote: valera75
      Maybe it’s better for Uncle Dima to figure out why in 15 years only 30 pieces of Almaty were produced and mass production was not established.

    3. yho
      -2
      9 February 2023 22: 30
      And what genius designed the tank from imported components, moreover, supplied from countries that are part of the NATO bloc? And what genius gave the green light to the production of these tanks?
      It seems to me that it would not occur to any country in the world (except the Russian Federation) to supply its enemy during the war.
    4. 0
      14 February 2023 16: 51
      For what 15 years???? Armata has been produced since 2008 or what?
      I'm not against criticism - I'm against lies under the guise of criticism.
  16. yho
    -9
    9 February 2023 18: 19
    It's time to remember about anti-tank dogs. According to Soviet sources, up to 300 enemy tanks were knocked out by dogs.
    1. 0
      13 February 2023 16: 51
      With the current armor of a modern tank, it will be difficult to find a dog carrying 10-15 kg of explosives, and
  17. +1
    9 February 2023 18: 20
    Quote: Ulan.1812
    I do not think that with the existing capacities it is possible to increase the production of modern equipment at times.

    Not only is where to get the capacity for production, but do we have them for the modernization of hundreds, if not thousands of tanks? They are not being modernized on the street and they are needed: areas, specialists, equipment.
  18. +4
    9 February 2023 18: 23
    The West loses to Russia in terms of the possibility of prompt mobilization of the production capacities of the military-industrial complex


    Yes, if it weren’t for the Soviet stocks of tanks and artillery, which someone had the sense not to cut into scrap, what would Shoigu and his “woman’s battalion” do now with a hundred experimental Armats and two dozen Coalition howitzers?
    For 22 years, the Ground Forces have received so much new weapons that, God forbid, one division is enough with an interference fit, and the rest are models of Soviet military equipment modernized in some way according to the most simplified options.

    Where are those 70% of new tanks, self-propelled guns, infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers, MLRS about which Shoigu reported to the supreme commander a year ago?
    And it would be fine if there was no money in the country, hundreds of billions of petrodollars were regularly exported from Russia to the West along with gold and diamonds ....
    The purchase of three thousand new T-90Ms and the complete re-equipment of all tank units would require only 7 billion dollars (quite a bit of those 350 "frozen" billion).
    Back in 2018, it was clear that Armata would not be ready for mass production in the next 5-7 years, logically, the T-90M Breakthrough-3 should have been purchased, but not 400 units up to 27g, but 300 units per year. maximum for UVZ. (2100 units for 7 years).
    The released T-72B3s should have been sent to training units, to storage bases, as well as to re-equip the LDNR Armed Forces from that trophy "squalor" that was abandoned by the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 14-15 years in several boilers in the Donbass.
    1. +6
      9 February 2023 18: 37
      which someone was smart enough not to cut into scrap
      Rather, someone just didn’t get their hands on it, they didn’t have time. The Soviet backlog was too big, even the reformers could not gobble it up.
    2. +8
      9 February 2023 18: 44
      It doesn't work like that. It is impossible, having calculated the cost of one tank, say, at 4 million dollars, to give a check for 4 billion and take a thousand tanks in a year. To deploy mass production, money alone is not enough. It is necessary to rebuild the entire economy, starting from giving birth to new engineers-workers first, teaching them at university schools, giving them positions in newly built factories (and not military factories, but machine-tool factories, for example), giving them housing, kindergartens and schools already for their children, salaries from 100 rubles, and not from 000. And then, in ten years, the country will be able to issue a thousand new tanks a year.
      1. 0
        14 February 2023 15: 24
        Oh well. Explain this to a person who receives 600.000+ rubles per month. and this is only official. He snaps his fingers all his life and the goods immediately appear on his check. And you are "production", "infrastructure", "personnel", and other buzzwords. laughing
    3. 0
      9 February 2023 18: 59
      Yes, you are a strategist, my friend.
      1. yho
        0
        9 February 2023 22: 23
        "War is too serious a matter to be left to the military." - Charles Maurice de Talleyrand-Périgord
  19. +2
    9 February 2023 18: 47
    Russia does not need tanks to win the war, but ballistic missiles. Accurate and powerful with warheads from 1.5 tons, 800 km range. 40 of these missiles will be enough to destroy all 20 bridges across the Dnieper. And in a couple of weeks, the entire Donetsk grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine capitulates. Victory.
  20. ASM
    +5
    9 February 2023 19: 00
    I do not know what kind of bullets he casts this time, but the fact that this is a bird is a talker for sure. Until recently, with puffed out cheeks, he said that in the event of an attack on the territory of the Russian Federation, the outskirts would rake. And what, attacks are only increasing, weapons are being brought in by echelons, gas pipelines have been blown up ... and nothing. This Medvedev went to the bushes to gnaw leaves.
  21. +2
    9 February 2023 19: 35
    This is all Medvedev's PR, like he told and scared the West. There is only one plant in Tagil where tanks are assembled into a handbrake, there were conveyors in the USSR. Now only a bulkhead of old GDR tanks. and sold in metal. Well, a bunch of super-managers will be taught how to work with pens
    1. yho
      -3
      9 February 2023 22: 20
      It seems to me that Russia does not fit into the world market ...
  22. +3
    9 February 2023 20: 12
    Quote: Rage66
    Open sources report that one UVZ produces up to 30 units. per month, if Omsk makes the same amount, then 100 pieces, on the scale of Russia, a real figure ... And 100 per month is very decent soldier

    The T-80B tank and its modifications were produced at JSC "Omsktransmash" from 1979 to 1991, more than 10 thousand T-80 tanks of all modifications were produced in total. The latest version was the T-80BV tank, adopted by the Soviet army in 1985. For 12 years, more than 10 thousand tanks
  23. +2
    10 February 2023 02: 06
    Quote: Adrey
    Or are you still planning to reach the Bay of Biscay?

    And why not? Wash your boots, so to speak, if it didn’t happen in the Indian Ocean.
  24. +2
    10 February 2023 05: 28
    Tank minesweepers are very much needed, we have a lot of equipment that does not even have time to join the battle and dies on the way.
  25. 0
    11 February 2023 09: 07
    It is necessary to reduce the diversity of various armored vehicles
  26. 0
    14 February 2023 15: 17
    This is not the kind of person who "no money - hold on, good mood" and "teacher - this is a calling, if you want money (read, live) - go into business"?