The US authorities have allocated a new package of military assistance to Ukraine with long-range missiles

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The US authorities have allocated a new package of military assistance to Ukraine with long-range missiles

The United States will soon transfer new military aid to Ukraine worth $2,2 billion. This was stated by the official representative of the US Department of Defense Patrick Ryder.

According to a Pentagon spokesman, the new military assistance will include long-range missiles for multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) HIMARS. In addition to them, Washington promises to transfer additional armored vehicles and some "opportunities in the field of air defense."



Financially, the new military aid package consists of $425 million in support approved by US President Joe Biden, as well as $1,75 billion through the Ukraine Defense Fund. A Pentagon spokesman also boasted that since 2014, the United States has already provided $32 billion in aid to Ukraine. Since the beginning of the special military operation in Ukraine, the United States has provided $29,3 billion in aid to the Kyiv regime.

Apparently, American taxpayers, who face numerous social problems in the United States, should be very happy about such support. But the White House is not interested in the financial situation of ordinary Americans, their possible difficulties with health insurance or infrastructure, when it comes to satisfying global geopolitical ambitions.

In Ukraine, in turn, they demand to transfer as much as possible weaponsand not only tanks, but also Western-made combat aircraft.
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  1. +12
    3 February 2023 20: 47
    Now our rear lines will begin to nightmare for 150 km. At such a range, we will not be able to find and destroy himars
    1. +2
      3 February 2023 21: 04
      if they are guided only by GPS, then you need to shoot down NATO satellites ((
      1. +2
        3 February 2023 21: 59
        Not only there the main guidance system is inertial. GPS only additionally corrects.
        1. 0
          4 February 2023 17: 05
          Not only there the main guidance system is inertial. GPS only additionally corrects

          I would say that it is GPS that makes glmrs missiles a high-precision weapon.
          Without navigation, a simple inertial indicator, which stands in the gmrs, will give accuracy plus or minus a tram stop.
          After all, the rocket is very cheap, about $100.000 apiece (see contracts on the Lockheed Martin website), cheaper than a helper and even than an Excalibur projectile.
          A decent laser gyroscope cannot be cram into such a budget. And even with a good laser gyroscope, at a distance of under 100 km, the spread will be more than 100 meters.
      2. +1
        3 February 2023 22: 05
        Dear sofa expert! Do you have suggestions for what? hi
      3. -4
        4 February 2023 00: 12
        1. An attack on a number of spacecraft may amount to a nuclear attack;
        2. Ask about the height of the orbits of the Navsta/GPS satellites;
        3. Rockets also have an inertial platform and, in some cases, a radio altimeter.
        1. 0
          4 February 2023 16: 46
          And let's "equate". Who is against?..

          Besides, after the States themselves withdrew (and without any intelligible reason...) from the ABM Treaty? And it also means from all its "formalized" restrictions ...
    2. +7
      3 February 2023 21: 06
      Quote: RED_ICE
      Now our rears will begin to nightmare for 150 km

      Something I became quite anxious about our cities of Bryansk, Belgorod, Kursk, even Rostov-on-Don. Can we bring it all down? somehow anxious sad
      1. +10
        3 February 2023 21: 13
        And in the article they are soaring for mattress taxpayers !!! am
      2. +6
        3 February 2023 21: 35
        the president lives and dies by his reputation massive shelling of Belgorod or Kursk may actually be a wake-up call that convinces the Kremlin to mark its red lines and take off its gloves or risk being overthrown. request
      3. -2
        3 February 2023 21: 54
        Quote: Anatole Klim
        Quote: RED_ICE
        Now our rears will begin to nightmare for 150 km

        Something I became quite anxious about our cities of Bryansk, Belgorod, Kursk, even Rostov-on-Don. Can we bring it all down? somehow anxious sad

        American missiles will not be fired at our cities. At least until 2025 (they seem to be planning a war with China on that date). The main thing here is the ability to shoot without being in danger, already 50 km from the front line it is almost safe.
        1. +1
          4 February 2023 00: 17
          In general, they write that the United States took from Ukraine written guarantees of the non-use of such weapons on the territory of Russia.
          In Crimea, they left it to their "discretion".
          And who knows how it will be.

          Although I don’t see much point in firing them at Belgorod or Kursk, say.
          They will strike at the rear, at headquarters, at troop concentrations, at railway stations and other things on the territory of the LDNR and probably the northern part of Crimea. With the Kherson region.
          1. -1
            4 February 2023 02: 33
            Quote: Osipov9391
            In general, they write that the United States took from Ukraine written guarantees of the non-use of such weapons on the territory of Russia.
            In Crimea, they left it to their "discretion".
            And who knows how it will be.

            Although I don’t see much point in firing them at Belgorod or Kursk, say.
            They will strike at the rear, at headquarters, at troop concentrations, at railway stations and other things on the territory of the LDNR and probably the northern part of Crimea. With the Kherson region.

            Guarantees, especially written ones, cost less than toilet paper. The paper scratches your ass.
            The imperialist war will plunge the country into the difficult path of building socialism along the knurled path, since there is a doctrine that has been tested in practice.
      4. +3
        4 February 2023 00: 58
        Yes, you can already worry about all the cities of the European part of Russia. The Americans "took another stopcock" by starting to transfer the confiscated funds to Ukraine. Previously, they at least kept some decorum by freezing them. In fact, this is another signal that the rules by which proxy wars were previously waged no longer apply.
    3. -2
      3 February 2023 21: 28
      We can destroy decision centers and satellites.
      1. +9
        3 February 2023 21: 48
        Can. But we don't want to. And the satellites are more likely we can’t than we don’t want to
      2. The comment was deleted.
      3. 0
        3 February 2023 22: 14
        ''We can destroy decision centers and satellites''

        Who are "we? Personally, you and someone else? If you can, act now! In general, it should have been done a long time ago, if possible.
  2. -4
    3 February 2023 20: 48
    you need to understand not what they tempered in the new package, but when it ends up in Ukraine .. if this is the end of 23 years .. then in this case more media .. and an attempt to put pressure on other countries ..
    1. +14
      3 February 2023 20: 57
      States usually bring everything they need to Poland in advance and well in advance, then they make a decision on deliveries and the delivery turns out to be instant in fact, such an algorithm of their work has already been noticed many times.
      1. 0
        3 February 2023 21: 15
        Well, something may be handed over right away ... but I don’t think that they will give almost 200 mraps at a time.
      2. 0
        4 February 2023 16: 53
        Yesterday a friend called his friend from the "limitrophy". He told that he personally saw how, at about 15.00 their time, on trailers, accompanied by military police, from the area of ​​​​the former Soviet training ground in Adazi, they took out three overseas "boxes" ... I.e. - "platoon" ...

        And as he understood, they would drag them by sea, to Poland ...
  3. -9
    3 February 2023 20: 48
    We will now wet everything that moves from Poland, etc. ..
    Everything they could offer, it's time to start to really fight, and not storm with manpower ..
    It is difficult now for the GDP to make such decisions, but let it not pull, otherwise the turmoil will begin in the province. Why are ours dying and why are we dragging and wagging ..?
    If the third world war has been going on like this for a long time .. And I don’t want the terrible 90s anymore, but this time it will just be the extermination of the Russian world by punishers of all stripes ..
    Let's make up your mind while Russia is in the provinces for you ,,, We remember how we were expelled and killed and humiliated
    1. +12
      3 February 2023 21: 16
      Quote from Luka Nord
      We will now wet everything that moves from Poland, etc. ..
      Everything they could offer, it's time to start to really fight, and not storm with manpower ..
      It is difficult now for the GDP to make such decisions, but let it not pull, otherwise the turmoil will begin in the province. Why are ours dying and why are we dragging and wagging ..?
      If the third world war has been going on like this for a long time .. And I don’t want the terrible 90s anymore, but this time it will just be the extermination of the Russian world by punishers of all stripes ..
      Let's make up your mind while Russia is in the provinces for you ,,, We remember how we were expelled and killed and humiliated

      Vitaly you remind Solovyov. He screams that it's time to use conscripts, but none of his 4 sons are drafted into the army. Until recently, you threatened to go into battle yourself and send both sons, so what? I now know a person on the forum whose son has been in the war for 10 months and he only wants it to end.
      1. -9
        3 February 2023 21: 44
        You also remind me of Solovyov, but how else - there is only one nationality. And your sons in Ukraine? And from which side?
        1. +5
          3 February 2023 22: 03
          Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
          You also remind me of Solovyov, but how else - there is only one nationality. And your sons in Ukraine? And from which side?

          Personally, you do not remind me of Solzhenitsyn, although you have one nationality.
          And my son served 3 years in combat units of the IDF and is now studying at the university.
      2. +1
        3 February 2023 21: 44
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Vitaly you remind Solovyov. He screams that it's time to use conscripts, but none of his 4 sons are drafted into the army.

        "One of the most horrible features of war is that all the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting." (c) Homage to Catalonia
        1. -2
          3 February 2023 22: 07
          Why did Catalonia suddenly become the criterion of truth? In addition, this is a lie - I buried my nephew, my son in the Donbass (I didn’t let the second one in - one is enough) and I passionately want to destroy Ukraine and Ukrainians and I will contribute to this by all means available to me. And the end of the special operation for me in this sense will not change anything.
          1. 0
            3 February 2023 22: 27
            Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
            Why did Catalonia suddenly become the criterion of truth? In addition, this is a lie - I buried my nephew, my son in the Donbass (I didn’t let the second one in - one is enough) and I passionately want to destroy Ukraine and Ukrainians and I will contribute to this by all means available to me. And the end of the special operation for me in this sense will not change anything.

            Contribute. hi
          2. 0
            5 February 2023 10: 12
            I passionately want to destroy Ukraine and Ukrainians and will contribute to this by all means available to me

            That is, what Ukrainian propaganda from the very beginning asserted about the goals and objectives of the Russian Federation: the destruction of Ukrainians and Ukraine itself is pure truth?
    2. 0
      4 February 2023 00: 24
      You see that aviation does not fly into the sky of Ukraine because it is shot down.
      The workhorses of the Su-25 only work half the front line.
      Therefore, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not afraid to drive huge columns of military equipment across the territory of Ukraine.
      They know that there is nothing to fear - they will not be bombed.
      And "Caliber" and "Iskander" firing at moving objects do not exist in nature.

      And it must be stated that it is almost impossible to suppress the air defense of Ukraine - it is necessary to "turn off" all means of collecting information from NATO countries - AWACS aircraft, satellites, RTR aircraft, strategic UAVs and an intelligence network in Russia.
      Only cutting this down will force the APU to use their surveillance radars, and it’s not a fact that they can be destroyed in the depths of the territory.
      If such complexes as "Osa" / Iris covers larger ones such as "Buk" / Nasams.
      Behind those may be the S-300.
  4. 0
    3 February 2023 20: 48
    What is the Russian leadership counting on, I wonder? request
    1. +8
      3 February 2023 21: 18
      It seems to me that they have collected their monks / relatives as much as possible and are sitting at a low start ... am
      1. 0
        5 February 2023 10: 14
        And where are they waiting? However, the "monas" are just waiting ... To confiscate.
  5. 0
    3 February 2023 20: 53
    where does all this hysteria come from? Ukraine already had long-range Tochka-U 120 km and Vilkha 130 km missiles in abundance, which is 40 km more than HIMARS, much more dangerous since these are 300 mm missiles with a payload of 240 instead of the 100 that the Americans are sending with this new package .
    1. +7
      3 February 2023 20: 55
      American ones are more accurate and therefore dangerous.
      1. -2
        3 February 2023 21: 04
        and efficiency of use, including against moving targets.
        1. 0
          3 February 2023 21: 17
          in order for the GLSDB to hit moving targets you need a laser guided aircraft and it has been proven to have a range of only 100km due to deceleration maneuvering as stated in the SAAB report if you like I can link this for you.
          1. +1
            3 February 2023 22: 38
            To hit a moving target, it is enough to know the coordinates a second ago, the direction of movement and speed.
            You were deceived when they were on fire that a moving target could be hit only with the help of laser guidance (in this case, according to the subject, I would “wash down” the control like that).
            PS In principle, the control unit of the bomb needs to know the time of the meeting and the coordinates of the strike.

          2. -1
            4 February 2023 02: 56
            Such a small difference - not 100 kilometers, but 100 miles.
    2. +6
      3 February 2023 21: 21
      The points were actively used in February-May. In summer, the latter are more or less massive. Now, either already, or at the level of NZ, they cherish. Everything that could be raised back in 22. It is difficult and simply impossible to buy missiles in bulk (from those who will sell them literally by the piece and with dubious technical condition).

      Alder - probably all or almost all were shot in February-June. Perhaps there were strikes in the fall, in December, precisely by Alder at a distance of about 100 km. But it is literally piece by piece. Now the state or level of NC or all. The issue of increasing production in conditional Poland rests on the absence of a donor enterprise. And in fact, it will be a tighter new rocket. The issue of production at existing capacities - we will not know about this earlier than in 5-10 years.

      For missiles, the approximate position is as follows:
      Hailstones and other systems (vampire, half-grad, etc.) - slight hunger, but there is a steady replenishment.
      Hurricanes are strong restrictions on flow.
      Bureviya - similarly.
      Tornadoes - either over, or NZ.
      Alder - either ended, or NZ.
      Point - or over, or NC.
      Himarsy / M270 - steady supply of missiles, slight hunger.
    3. +2
      3 February 2023 22: 07
      Ukraine actually ran out of Tochka-U missiles (by the way, we were not able to destroy even half of the launchers). Himars is more dangerous than a point in that it is impossible to overload the air defense through the launch of a point in a group of decoys. It is possible to launch two points at the same time and hope that the air defense calculation will not be able to recognize the second one in time. Ukrainians have stupidly few alders. And there are a lot of Himars and they almost always overload our air defense, hiding in groups of Grad / Hurricane missiles. Maybe stop talking about the plushness of Hymars.
  6. +3
    3 February 2023 20: 54
    Expected from November 2022 and unexpected for February 2022... Delusions leading to... And who knows what else awaits us all..
    1. -4
      3 February 2023 20: 58
      where is the evidence that vilha is less accurate than GLSDM? are you also sincerely going to tell me that a 300mm high-precision missile with a combat load of 240k is less dangerous than a 100 glide bomb?
  7. -3
    3 February 2023 20: 54
    SHO AGAIN!? There is a feeling that by February 24, the West will give Ukraine $ 60 billion worth of weapons
    The Deutsches will already give the first 80 leopards, which means the United States can give Ukraine hundreds of M60s and centurions
  8. -1
    3 February 2023 20: 56
    The bridges across the Dnieper are very old, rusty, without repair, no one is repairing them, the concrete at the lower levels is covered with moss and crumbles, you just need to give a "push" so that this Soviet stuff collapses and they cannot supply the Donbass grouping
    1. old
      +9
      3 February 2023 21: 42
      Everything goes to the fact that soon the bridges on the Russian side will be under attack, and if at the same time there are old rusty bridges across the Dnieper, along which the supply of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will continue, then questions to our leadership will begin to sound even in schools and kindergartens. And there the people on the streets are not far away, God forbid. Either this is such a super-cunning Anglo-Saxon multi-move to change power (by the forces of power itself), or it will mean that someone at the top is fighting in the wrong direction ..
      1. 0
        4 February 2023 14: 43
        America loved Yeltsin. Yeltsin left behind Putin.
  9. 0
    3 February 2023 21: 03
    Oo, this means soon goodwill gestures will be
  10. -3
    3 February 2023 21: 04
    Quote: Shoulder straps
    What is the Russian leadership counting on, I wonder? request

    You will probably find out soon. It usually happens so unexpectedly))
  11. -2
    3 February 2023 21: 06
    Apparently, American taxpayers, who face numerous social problems in the United States, should be very happy about such support. But the White House is not interested in the financial situation of ordinary Americans, their possible difficulties with health insurance or infrastructure, when it comes to satisfying global geopolitical ambitions.


    And what do the Americans themselves think about it?
    And that's what


    request
    1. +1
      3 February 2023 21: 32
      therefore, there will be no negotiations from the West. The current situation suits them perfectly.
      1. -3
        3 February 2023 22: 03
        Quote from Constantin N.
        therefore, there will be no negotiations from the West. The current situation suits them perfectly.


        Then what does the leadership of Russia want?
        It is impossible to force the US into dialogue without a nuclear threat. But this is a one way ticket.
        It is also impossible to defeat the United States with non-nuclear weapons.

        I do not understand what is going on.
        1. 0
          4 February 2023 14: 42
          There is a logical finale of the capitalist development of Russia. He cannot be happy. We wore jeans and traveled to Thailand. There will be something to remember.
    2. +1
      3 February 2023 22: 12
      His arithmetic is interesting... The US population is 332,2 million. Of these, 17% are under 21.8 years old, over 60-23,4%, 20 million people received unemployment benefits within working age for the year 38,6. There are 143 million workers left. US GDP is 155 trillion for the year 22 .. I got $ 188 per capita ... and this is only Ukraine ... and there are enough other articles like Taiwan and Syria ....
  12. 0
    3 February 2023 21: 21
    If every American gives me $106, then I will have $32 billion. But he will not give them to me, he will give them to the Pentagon.
  13. 0
    3 February 2023 21: 22
    The US authorities have allocated a new package of military assistance to Ukraine with long-range missiles
    Everything is clear on the other side ... but on the other side, our side, what will "please" ???
  14. -9
    3 February 2023 21: 25
    the worse on the fronts, the more whining in Runet
    1. 0
      5 February 2023 10: 22
      the worse on the fronts, the more whining in Runet

      Hmm ... It would be strange if it was the other way around: everything is bad at the front, but in social networks everyone is happy and throws caps up. This would mean that the shiz covered everyone, and not just the most predisposed, as it is now.
  15. -9
    3 February 2023 21: 26
    We adapted to the supply of chimeras for half a year, I think we will adapt to this faster, but there is no need to talk about some more or less serious offensive at this time. The answer may be even more work to create unbearable living conditions in the fallow in order to demoralize the methods, I think they will come up with. It is unlikely that there is an effective military response to this, you just need to get used to it, by 2024 the industry will reach its maximum speed, by this time you need to make sure that people there are not motivated as much as possible, and then you can already attack, of course after the next mobilization.
    1. +1
      3 February 2023 22: 11
      What did you adapt to? There was no opposition to the Himars, and there is none. When necessary, they overload any of our air defense systems and achieve their goal.
      1. +3
        3 February 2023 22: 30
        That's what I wrote, there is no military answer, read carefully. Adaptation consists in dispersal and mobility, in August such fireworks were broadcast every other day, hangars burning 40 pieces of equipment each, and now once a month something fat is isolated
    2. 0
      4 February 2023 21: 08
      The answer may be even more work to create unbearable living conditions in the fallow in order to demoralize the methods, I think they will come up with.
      that is, in fact, terrorism, did I understand you correctly?
  16. -1
    3 February 2023 21: 35
    Quote: Shoulder straps
    Apparently, American taxpayers, who face numerous social problems in the United States, should be very happy about such support. But the White House is not interested in the financial situation of ordinary Americans, their possible difficulties with health insurance or infrastructure, when it comes to satisfying global geopolitical ambitions.


    And what do the Americans themselves think about it?
    And that's what

    All as one? Tiktok takes away the mind))
    1. +3
      3 February 2023 22: 06
      Quote: Tagan
      Quote: Shoulder straps
      Apparently, American taxpayers, who face numerous social problems in the United States, should be very happy about such support. But the White House is not interested in the financial situation of ordinary Americans, their possible difficulties with health insurance or infrastructure, when it comes to satisfying global geopolitical ambitions.


      And what do the Americans themselves think about it?
      And that's what

      All as one? Tiktok takes away the mind))


      Do you want to say that in Russia everyone supports the NWO as one without exception?))))

      Then, even if in America someone whines because of this, then this is not the point. If he told the truth, and we are talking about 14 bucks a month - for any working American, this is just laughter. That's the point.)
  17. +1
    3 February 2023 21: 36
    some "opportunities in the field of air defense."


    2 Hawk batteries (each with two or three fire platoons)
    Radars.
    Update packages for communication between Western and Ukrainian air defense systems (I wonder what?)
    Cannons - will the M167 Volcanoes be sent with a radio and multi-mode optical sights?


  18. +7
    3 February 2023 21: 42
    we are offered new rules of the game?? word for GDP.
    1. +1
      3 February 2023 21: 53
      He didn’t find words for a year, only red felt-tip pens or pencils!
      1. -1
        5 February 2023 10: 24
        Just about - to start CBO, when there are only felt-tip pens in the arsenals ... There are no words.
  19. +1
    3 February 2023 21: 51
    Did someone expect another?
    You should not expect anything good from them, it is beneficial for them and that says it all, if the war is not economically beneficial for them, then they will go to negotiations.
    But here's how to do it?
  20. -3
    3 February 2023 21: 53
    It's time to supply North Korea with Satan-type ballistic missiles.
    1. -1
      4 February 2023 01: 53
      I'm afraid that our leadership is afraid of the reaction of two countries: South Korea and Japan, then two countries with a developed military-industrial complex can bring additional problems
    2. +2
      4 February 2023 09: 18
      South Korea, if anything, has mobile OTRKs for 800 km range with 1,5 tons of warheads and maneuvering in the area. And most importantly, the Korean printer riveted a lot of them, so in such situations they will share a part, according to the friend-enemy-enemy principle.



      Well, if Korea is provoked to seriously fit into supplies, then Scholz, Macron and other Sunaks can fold with a sense of accomplishment. For Korea will block them literally from the wheels, and then from the factories.
      1. 0
        5 February 2023 10: 27
        Yeah ... If someone wrote a year ago that the Russian Federation would dream of supplying North Korean and Iranian weapons and military equipment, he would be considered either a joker or crazy.
  21. -1
    3 February 2023 22: 08
    Quote: Shoulder straps

    Then what does the leadership of Russia want?
    It is impossible to force the US into dialogue without a nuclear threat. But this is a one way ticket.
    It is also impossible to defeat the United States with non-nuclear weapons.

    I do not understand what is going on.

    Well, what are you hysterical again? Aren't you ashamed of yourself? What you can't see on the internet. UzhOs!)))
    1. +5
      3 February 2023 22: 16
      Quote: Tagan
      Quote: Shoulder straps

      Then what does the leadership of Russia want?
      It is impossible to force the US into dialogue without a nuclear threat. But this is a one way ticket.
      It is also impossible to defeat the United States with non-nuclear weapons.

      I do not understand what is going on.

      Well, what are you hysterical again? Aren't you ashamed of yourself? What you can't see on the internet. UzhOs!)))


      You know, no, don't be ashamed. hi
      I want to know the plan for HOW our leadership is going to get out of this conflict. What methods.

      Of course, I don't need the secret details of this plan. hi
  22. -3
    3 February 2023 22: 41
    Quote: Shoulder straps

    Do you want to say that in Russia everyone supports the NWO as one without exception?))))

    Then, even if in America someone whines because of this, then this is not the point. If he told the truth, and we are talking about 14 bucks a month - for any working American, this is just laughter. That's the point.)

    And you don't get out.))
    You wanted to present something as a unanimous opinion in the person of a narrow-minded tik-toker.
    He did not tell the whole truth, if what. And you have to be too naive to make up a big picture for such characters.
    1. +3
      3 February 2023 22: 48
      Quote: Tagan
      You wanted to present something as a unanimous opinion in the person of a narrow-minded tik-toker.


      And why is he not far away, in your opinion?)))
      Breaks a beautiful picture from the TV, where every day they broadcast about freezing Europe and the "inflated" US economy?))))

      Quote: Tagan
      He did not tell the whole truth, if what.

      Well, read the rest. hi
      At the same time, I would be happy to read your forecast, to whom this confrontation is more difficult and more expensive - America or Russia, and whose economy will not survive the first. hi
      1. 0
        7 February 2023 22: 01
        Quote: Shoulder straps
        Well, read the rest.

        Quote from Bonker
        His arithmetic is interesting... The US population is 332,2 million. Of these, 17% are under 21.8 years old, over 60-23,4%, 20 million people received unemployment benefits within working age for the year 38,6. There are 143 million workers left. US GDP 155 trillion for 22 years .. I got $188 per capita... and this is only Ukraine ... and TPM there are enough other articles like Taiwan and Syria ....
  23. -5
    3 February 2023 22: 50
    Quote: Shoulder straps

    You know, no, don't be ashamed. hi
    I want to know the plan for HOW our leadership is going to get out of this conflict. What methods.
    Of course, I don't need the secret details of this plan. hi

    I do not know. Personally, as well as many others, it would be dumb for me to cry in public. You are no longer in kindergarten, honestly.
  24. +3
    3 February 2023 22: 55
    If we continue to fight like this, then we will wait until the Nazis start shooting at Moscow. Maybe then Putin will finally decide to start for real. In the meantime, shameful helplessness, lack of initiative and lack of determination and will.
  25. +1
    3 February 2023 23: 30
    The Smolensk and Rostov nuclear power plants are far away, but the Kursk or Novovoronezh nuclear power plants are just within reach
    worrisome(
  26. +1
    3 February 2023 23: 53
    I can say one thing - if he arrives in my native Rostov-on-Don, then I will personally become an opponent of Putin and all this pack. It was they who for 25 years looked through their fingers at the transformation of Ukraine into an anti-Russian territory. It was they who slammed the Maidan. It’s them who didn’t understand what they were doing for 8 years, while Ukraine was preparing for war, armed and trained. It was they who turned the "red lines" into a passage yard. It was they who, in 30 years, turned the Russian army into a parade showcase with a complete failure of mediocre command. It was they who underestimated the enemy before the start of the NWO. And it was they who allowed the war to be transferred to Russian territory already in the open.
    1. +2
      4 February 2023 00: 36
      So it is in many ways.
      That war that we needed was lost with a bang at the end of March last year, when we left Kyiv.
      Without even setting any conditions for Ukraine.

      It turned out that plan A with the coup and the overthrow of Zelensky collapsed, because the information given by intelligence turned out to be most likely deliberately false.
      And plan B with the capture of Kyiv and a number of regional cities turned out to be impossible due to the small number of troops sent there, weak interaction between them and other problems.

      As of today, there are no plans at all. About what was said at the beginning has long been forgotten. Yes, and it's impossible.
      Neither the people nor the military knows where events are heading.
      And what should that victory be like?
      A possible victory under the circumstances.
      1. +1
        4 February 2023 14: 35
        If world democracy defeats Russia, then it, like Hitler, plans to deport 75% of the population of the European part of the Russian Federation beyond the Urals. I warned you. By the way, our corrupt oligarchs and those whom they feed are included in the world democracy.
    2. -2
      4 February 2023 08: 17
      Quote: BorzRio
      if he arrives in my native Rostov-on-Don, then I personally will become an opponent of Putin and all this pack
      Lying is bad. Judging by the further text, you have never been a supporter of "Putin and all this pack". Why then these antics: "if he arrives ..." Like, I'm for Russia, but I'm almost ready to be against Putin. Yes, about "native Rostov-on-Don". What else Rostov ... It would be better not to shine with their shtetl-farm consciousness: "until it flies into my garden, I will be a supporter of Putin and all this pack." Rostov doesn't think so.
  27. +3
    4 February 2023 00: 12
    Quote: Shoulder straps
    Quote: Tagan
    You wanted to present something as a unanimous opinion in the person of a narrow-minded tik-toker.


    And why is he not far away, in your opinion?)))
    Breaks a beautiful picture from the TV, where every day they broadcast about freezing Europe and the "inflated" US economy?))))

    Quote: Tagan
    He did not tell the whole truth, if what.

    Well, read the rest. hi
    At the same time, I would be happy to read your forecast, to whom this confrontation is more difficult and more expensive - America or Russia, and whose economy will not survive the first. hi

    How I am generally touched by these fairy tales about TVs, because. in the end, albeit on an Internet, you are watching someone's "TV". You will be fed something anyway.
    You somehow completely lost touch with what you started with and what exactly you, and not I, were pushing.
    Yes, you can lick Europe and the states as much as you like, but in reality this is not at all what it was 25 years ago. Some of my friends have already returned back (from the states, Germany). Although at first they were admiring the life there.
    What else would you know about the state economy? You have never been there. Don't laugh already.))
    1. -3
      4 February 2023 00: 20
      Quote: Tagan
      Some of my friends have already returned back (from the states, Germany). Although at first they were admiring the life there.


      I'm not interested in your friends and "there" life, sorry. hi
      I am quite satisfied with life in Russia, as it was before the beginning of 2014. I don't need life from Europe or the States. I need the life of Russia the way it used to be.
      1. -3
        4 February 2023 08: 46
        Quote: Shoulder straps
        I am quite satisfied with life in Russia, as it was before the beginning of 2014. ... I need the life of Russia as it was before.
        This will never happen again, God willing. Do not be capricious!
        1. +1
          4 February 2023 08: 54
          Quote: Stanislav_Shishkin
          This will never happen again, God willing, never


          Let me know what personally did not suit you such a life? Specifically, did someone deprive you of something inside the country? Or what?
          1. -1
            4 February 2023 13: 35
            ... judging by the "counter-propaganda" - the girls didn't give it. By the way, about the "khutor-parochial" - I'm exactly the same small-town and against the "brotherly-partner-we-we-not-so-deceived-we flip-all over the plan", although the GDP itself is still the hope of Russia . Undertook to fight - fight, and do not whisper with the Abramovich-Medvedchuks, while the Russian soldier fights heroically, and does not conduct a swap operation.
            1. -1
              5 February 2023 11: 58
              Quote: Serge9901
              I'm exactly the same local
              Ukrainian?
              Smiles of Odessa, the rains could not wash you away,
              Supreme power, our local leaders
              Or are defined by words whose meaning you do not quite understand.
            2. -2
              5 February 2023 13: 46
              Quote: Serge9901
              ... judging by the "counter-propaganda" - the girls did not give
              Who about what, and lousy - about the bath.
          2. -2
            4 February 2023 14: 41
            Quote: Shoulder straps
            Let me know what personally did not suit you such a life?
            Since the 2000s, we have only begun the path to sovereignty: we have been slowly freeing ourselves from external dependence, fighting terrorism, building our own vertical of power and strengthening the army. Since 2014, the Russian Federation began to show clear signs of a sovereign power: Crimea, then Syria, then Ukraine. And since February 2022, the fifth column faltered and ran. It is better to keep silent about what happened in the 90s. I don't know why, but I like living in a free country.
  28. 0
    4 February 2023 00: 29
    Quote: BorzRio
    I can say one thing - if he arrives in my native Rostov-on-Don, then I will personally become an opponent of Putin and all this pack. It was they who for 25 years looked through their fingers at the transformation of Ukraine into an anti-Russian territory. It was they who slammed the Maidan. It’s them who didn’t understand what they were doing for 8 years, while Ukraine was preparing for war, armed and trained. It was they who turned the "red lines" into a passage yard. It was they who, in 30 years, turned the Russian army into a parade showcase with a complete failure of mediocre command. It was they who underestimated the enemy before the start of the NWO. And it was they who allowed the war to be transferred to Russian territory already in the open.

    And what about you, nothing sank before? They have been flying to the Rostov region since 2014, and many times. Your shirt is closer to your body, isn't it? But it's Putin's fault
    1. -1
      4 February 2023 08: 37
      Quote: Tagan
      Your shirt is closer to your body, isn't it?
      Hardly his own, rather, mummers. The shirt is "in roosters": in Rostov such a style would be called "Kugut".
  29. +1
    4 February 2023 00: 39
    Quote: Shoulder straps
    Quote: Tagan
    Some of my friends have already returned back (from the states, Germany). Although at first they were admiring the life there.


    I'm not interested in your friends and "there" life, sorry. hi
    I am quite satisfied with life in Russia, as it was before the beginning of 2014. I don't need life from Europe or the States. I need the life of Russia the way it used to be.

    I'm not interested in your whining. If you want to live well, everything is in your hands. Kirk, shovel! Onward and with a song! No one will put you in the beak for free.
    1. -4
      4 February 2023 00: 47
      Quote: Tagan
      Quote: Shoulder straps
      Quote: Tagan
      Some of my friends have already returned back (from the states, Germany). Although at first they were admiring the life there.


      I'm not interested in your friends and "there" life, sorry. hi
      I am quite satisfied with life in Russia, as it was before the beginning of 2014. I don't need life from Europe or the States. I need the life of Russia the way it used to be.

      I'm not interested in your whining. If you want to live well, everything is in your hands. Kirk, shovel! Onward and with a song! No one will put you in the beak for free.


      You have a problem with cause and effect. hi
      1. 0
        4 February 2023 09: 06
        Quote: Shoulder straps
        You have a problem with cause and effect.
        And you don’t have them due to the complete absence of a causal relationship in the text. Only personal Wishlist: "I'm not interested", "I'm quite satisfied", "I don't need", "I need". Do you think that they can definitely interest someone?
  30. 0
    4 February 2023 02: 21
    Well, it’s not so red, and not a whole line, but a dotted one. and everything is going according to plan wassat
  31. +1
    4 February 2023 07: 37
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
    Why did Catalonia suddenly become the criterion of truth? In addition, this is a lie - I buried my nephew, my son in the Donbass (I didn’t let the second one in - one is enough) and I passionately want to destroy Ukraine and Ukrainians and I will contribute to this by all means available to me. And the end of the special operation for me in this sense will not change anything.

    Contribute. hi

    Already.
  32. -1
    4 February 2023 07: 43
    Quote: BorzRio
    I can say one thing - if he arrives in my native Rostov-on-Don, then I will personally become an opponent of Putin and all this pack. It was they who for 25 years looked through their fingers at the transformation of Ukraine into an anti-Russian territory. It was they who slammed the Maidan. It’s them who didn’t understand what they were doing for 8 years, while Ukraine was preparing for war, armed and trained. It was they who turned the "red lines" into a passage yard. It was they who, in 30 years, turned the Russian army into a parade showcase with a complete failure of mediocre command. It was they who underestimated the enemy before the start of the NWO. And it was they who allowed the war to be transferred to Russian territory already in the open.


    laughing the logic of a Zaputin patriot laughing he will start to hesitate when he personally flies into the jug. And Kursk, Belgorod - that's all ...
    And, yes - Putin has nothing to do with it ....

    "Tell the tsar that the Englishmen don't clean their guns with bricks..."
    Oh, if only the king knew...
    1. -1
      5 February 2023 16: 47
      Quote: Hindu
      Quote: BorzRio
      I personally will become an opponent of Putin and all this pack
      the logic of a Zaputin patriot
      "Lovely swear - only amuse" - it's as if it was said directly about you and BorzRio.
  33. 0
    4 February 2023 07: 51
    [quote = Shoulder straps]
    I'm not interested in your whining. If you want to live well, everything is in your hands. Kirk, shovel! Onward and with a song! No one will put you in your beak for free. [/ Quote]

    You have a problem with cause and effect. hi[/ Quote]
    Are you serious?
    And this will be told to me by the one who is constantly capricious and hysterical?))
    1. -2
      4 February 2023 08: 00
      Quote: Tagan
      Are you serious?

      Seriously. You have problems with causality. hi
      I am writing to you that everything suited me in life in Russia until 2014, and in response you offer me to work, because there will be no freebies. And what about before 2014 in our country it was?)))) Or what?)
  34. 0
    4 February 2023 12: 20
    Apparently, American taxpayers, who face numerous social problems in the United States, should be very happy about such support.

    It would be better to look at yourself, especially since the frozen money of Russia more than covers all the expenses of Ukraine
  35. 0
    4 February 2023 14: 27
    On January 25, 2023, Radio Komsomolskaya Pravda, through the host’s laughter, talks about the supply of German Leopard tanks for the Ukrainian army. Details after advertisement. Someone is laughing on the air, and in the United States they are already showing a map of the division of Russia into 17 parts.
    According to the Ost plan, Hitler planned to deport 75% of the population of the European part of the USSR beyond the Urals. I think in the modern centers of international democracy, these plans are still in force, but with respect to the population of Russia.
  36. 0
    4 February 2023 15: 09
    Quote: Shoulder straps
    Quote: Tagan
    Are you serious?

    Seriously. You have problems with causality. hi
    I am writing to you that everything suited me in life in Russia until 2014, and in response you offer me to work, because there will be no freebies. And what about before 2014 in our country it was?)))) Or what?)

    Well, yes, work. Work ennobles. Who asks you what suits you? Wake up! It will never be the same as it was before 2014.
  37. 0
    4 February 2023 16: 03
    Zakharova accused the EU of serving Ukraine

    I think it's the other way around. Ukraine serves the EU.
    Only lace panties fly hi
  38. 0
    4 February 2023 21: 05
    Please explain to me, an incompetent couch analyst, WHAT does not allow us, as a state, to take the initiative in creating some kind of New Eurasian Union, which would include the Russian Federation, China, Iran, North Korea, and possibly Vietnam, Belarus, some countries of Latin America, with the goal formation of which was a military-political association against NATO and amers, so to speak, the second center of power in the world militarily? After all, military alliances took place before the first and second world wars, both during and after, while playing a leading role in the world political arena. How is it that now each of the countries on the list above single-handedly grabs from the collective West and silently sits on the defensive with the thought "well, how can we alone resist the states and the Anglo-Saxons?" Surely there are some objective difficulties here (it can't just be a matter of the political impotence of our leadership and the Foreign Ministry), but are they really insurmountable? It is obvious that the rhetoric of the Anglo-Saxons and NATO will subside instantly after such a hypothetical alliance declares mutual guaranteed military support for each of its members. Isn't the growing risk of the third world war going into a hot phase and the increasingly bold arguments of analysts and top officials of states about the use of tactical nuclear weapons are not a signal that such an alliance is urgently needed by countries that are still not members of it for some reason?
    1. -1
      7 February 2023 22: 32
      Quote from Artur Homoastricus
      Isn't the growing risk of the third world war going into a hot phase and the increasingly bold arguments of analysts and top officials of states about the use of tactical nuclear weapons are not a signal that such an alliance is urgently needed by countries that are still not members of it for some reason?

      That is precisely why they don’t exist - the Russian Federation will arrive 100%. And for all other countries (except for Belarus) it will certainly not arrive. The two empires will destroy each other cleanly and they will have no time for Iran, and even more so for Latin America ...
      But who will survive this from those named by you - who will rule the world. And will be a new Empire ...
  39. 0
    4 February 2023 21: 17
    Quote: wladimirjankov
    Maybe then Putin will finally decide to start for real.
    but now we are not at full strength, right?))

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