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In the sky over Artyomovsk, a Mi-8 helicopter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was shot down, trying to evacuate senior officers

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In the sky over Artyomovsk, a Mi-8 helicopter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was shot down, trying to evacuate senior officers

The operation to liberate the city of Artyomovsk (Bakhmut) in the Donetsk People's Republic continues. Having taken control of Experienced and Kleshcheevka, the Wagner PMC units entered Artyomovsk from the south, cutting off the enemy's supply routes in this direction.


At the same time, the city is being covered from the direction to Konstantinovka - the battles are going on near the settlement of Ivanovskoye.



Ukrainian troops are trying to use Aviationincluding evacuation. So, two Mi-8 helicopters were sent to Bakhmut. According to the latest data, with their help, the enemy tried to evacuate representatives of senior officers and "major figures" from among foreigners from the city, coordinating the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Artyomovsk-Soledar agglomeration. In this regard, the situation is in many ways reminiscent of the case with Mariupol, when Russian troops blocked the enemy grouping in the city, to which evacuation helicopters were subsequently sent several times for command representatives and NATO instructors. In a number of cases, helicopters near Mariupol were shot down.

One of the two Mi-8 helicopters sent to Bakhmut was also shot down. It was shot down by Wagner PMC fighters using a portable anti-aircraft missile system. The attack on the helicopter, moving at low altitude, was inflicted from the outskirts of the city. The rotorcraft caught fire and crashed in the city - in the eastern part of Artyomovsk. The second helicopter had to retire. He was able to leave.



By and large, for the transport connection with Bakhmut, Ukrainian troops outside it are left with either an air route (and it is fraught with the loss of aviation assets, as in the described case), or a route to Chasov Yar via Khromovo. However, the land route is under fire from Russian artillery. Using it, the enemy suffers losses in manpower and equipment. In the understanding of representatives of the Ukrainian political leadership and propagandists from the Main Intelligence Directorate and the National Security and Defense Council, this is called "grinding Russian forces." More than a strange "grinding", given that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are already losing in Artemovsk those reserves that were previously transferred to the city from the Zaporozhye direction.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 23 January 2023 07: 44
    +23
    The attack on the helicopter, moving at low altitude, was inflicted from the outskirts of the city. The rotorcraft caught fire and crashed in the city - in the eastern part of Artyomovsk. The second helicopter had to retire. He was able to leave.
    Those. shot down ON the approach to Artemovsk, without the top of the Natsiks? Will send again. It would be nice to fill up with the Nazis, and the rest of the aliens.
    1. Ka-52
      Ka-52 23 January 2023 08: 02
      +47
      in fact, the helicopters fired at our positions. The version about the removal of the command staff seems to me just a version of our propaganda. The video shows that the helicopters are firing at the time of the launch of the MANPADS. Why take out the command staff by helicopters, if, firstly, it probably wasn’t there initially, and secondly, why this should be done in an unencircled city is not clear. As far as I know, our troops provide fire control only over two of the three routes from Artemovsk. And then, "fire control" is a rather vague concept. I think the command of the APU grouping can leave the city with an armored group quite easily so far
      1. Mikhail Maslov
        Mikhail Maslov 23 January 2023 08: 15
        +16
        That's exactly what happened. Where did the "generals from NATO" come from again, in general a fake. The site is increasingly spreading unverified and even false information.
        1. Egeny
          Egeny 23 January 2023 11: 36
          +1
          It is not clear from the article whether there were "passengers" on board or not and why there was only one launch
        2. bk316
          bk316 23 January 2023 12: 23
          0
          it probably wasn't there in the first place.

          Surely there was. How many APU are there - several brigades. This requires local command.
          But evacuating with a turntable is really strange - it’s more reliable on armor. Well, if only the wounded.
        3. bk316
          bk316 23 January 2023 12: 30
          +4
          The site is increasingly spreading unverified and even false information.

          I'm afraid worse - he invents it. The link "according to the latest data" is generally about nothing.
          1. tol100v
            tol100v 23 January 2023 19: 56
            +5
            Quote: bk316
            The site is increasingly spreading unverified and even false information.

            I'm afraid worse - he invents it. The link "according to the latest data" is generally about nothing.
            Reply

            Quote: bk316
            The site is increasingly spreading unverified and even false information.

            I'm afraid worse - he invents it. The link "according to the latest data" is generally about nothing.

            you just need to think, and who owns the "Military obsession" itself?
        4. Grancer81
          Grancer81 24 January 2023 06: 23
          +1
          There were no "generals from NATO" in Mariupol either... Only unburned passports of US citizens remained in the cellars of "Azovstal".
      2. Tiksi-3
        Tiksi-3 23 January 2023 08: 18
        +9
        Quote: Ka-52
        The version about the removal of the command staff seems to me just a version of our propaganda.

        100%...... where does such infa about whom the composition come from ??
        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 23 January 2023 10: 08
          0
          Quote: Tiksi-3
          100%...... where does such infa about whom the composition come from ??

          "... but intelligence reported accurately ... and the team went tossed ..." wink
        2. Stas157
          Stas157 23 January 2023 12: 31
          +7
          Quote: Tiksi-3
          100%...... where does such infa about whom the composition come from ??

          Yes, as the helicopter was shot down, I immediately thought - it would be nice if there was a lump of staff ...
      3. Lionnvrsk
        Lionnvrsk 23 January 2023 08: 28
        +13
        Quote: Ka-52
        in fact, the helicopters fired at our positions.

        That's right. In the first report about these helicopters, it was said that they processed our positions with bunks.
        Quote: Ka-52
        The version about the removal of the command staff seems to me just a version of our propaganda.

        And please note that once again, when such rotten information was thrown in, the name of the VO reporter who scrawled this article was again not indicated.
        1. Konnick
          Konnick 23 January 2023 12: 40
          +7
          And please note that once again, when such rotten information was thrown in, the name of the VO reporter who scrawled this article was again not indicated.

          What kind of senior officers can there be in Artemovsk, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have no connection? There is no need for the presence of senior officers on the line of engagement. Usually headquarters are out of reach of artillery. Moreover, NATO advisers do not have to be at the forefront.
          1. Grancer81
            Grancer81 24 January 2023 06: 25
            0
            Any "herr major" from the Waffen-AFU is already a senior officer ...
      4. Muromczev-2015
        Muromczev-2015 23 January 2023 09: 11
        0
        "The video shows that the helicopters are firing" .... And in your opinion, if the helicopters were sent for evacuation, they should have been unarmed? :) ... Ah-ha-ha-ha ...
      5. T800-101
        T800-101 23 January 2023 09: 15
        -1
        Moreover, the commanders of the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not need to evacuate in the conditions of ongoing battles. Then Abramovich will safely take them to Turkey in which case.
      6. The comment was deleted.
      7. Vik ganz
        Vik ganz 23 January 2023 12: 54
        -6
        "Gentlemen" sofa generals. The correspondent lied "about the downed helicopter with senior officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine." And it was reprinted by many serious (6 or 7) agencies without checking? Are you sure ?
        So I think it's you, closing your eyes, inventing, sitting on the couch.
      8. ABC-schutze
        ABC-schutze 23 January 2023 13: 56
        +2
        In the city there could be (and, for sure, there were and still are ...) NATO groups of specialists from the MTR. And their evacuation is no less (if not more...) important than the evacuation of the "senior officers" of the Kyiv Natsiks' armed formations...

        As for the fire from helicopters, what is "unusual" here? .. One side, according to the situation, provides fire cover, the other "takes away" ...
      9. TIR
        TIR 23 January 2023 20: 34
        +3
        I saw the same video of how this pair of turntables fired NARs from a nose-up. And they shot her down with MANPADS. The version about the removal of command personnel is simply outright nonsense. And I hope this article will be removed from the site, since such a cheap version spoils the reputation of the site and brings it to the category of a yellow newspaper. Moderators delete the article and do not disgrace
        1. ABC-schutze
          ABC-schutze 23 January 2023 21: 23
          0
          Not so simple...

          Mi-8 "horse" is universal. Maybe, within the framework of one sortie, how to fire at the targets identified (including during the flight ...) targets, and evacuate ...

          By the way, and the situation that is developing in this area, the Kyiv Natsiks are FORCING precisely such a "combination" of the task. They simply don’t have time to “choose” and “wait” ...
      10. Jager
        Jager 23 January 2023 20: 39
        +2
        You need to have the composure and determination of a kamikaze in order to attack an area saturated with air defense systems on a transport helicopter.
      11. skeptic
        skeptic 24 January 2023 00: 09
        +4
        Quote: Ka-52
        in fact, the helicopters fired at our positions. The version about the removal of the command staff seems to me just a version of our propaganda.

        I won’t prove that it was planned to evacuate anyone, but during the hostilities in Afghanistan, Chechnya, helicopter pilots, before picking up our military personnel, usually tried to suppress nearby points to ensure evacuation. Therefore, firing from a helicopter does not absolutely reject the possibility of disembarking or evacuating anyone.
        1. Grancer81
          Grancer81 24 January 2023 06: 27
          +2
          A classic of air assault combat ... One attacks, the second covers ... "Carousel" ...
      12. Postcode
        Postcode 24 January 2023 08: 03
        +1
        In the Artemovsk area, at least last week, the center of the unified command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was operating, it was equipped in one of the basements, it was equipped very well, the RER facilities could not accurately "detect" it, the NATO "jammer" worked well. When Azovstal was completely surrounded by land and blocked from the sea, helicopters flew there several times a day, not all of them were shot down.
    2. fruc
      fruc 23 January 2023 11: 21
      +7
      It is a pity that the second top managed to leave.
      1. sgrabik
        sgrabik 23 January 2023 19: 03
        0
        Apparently, the Wagnerites still do not have enough new and more effective Verba MANPADS to more actively counteract the dill air forces, but they promised to provide the fighters of the Wagner group with everything they need, everything without exception and in the most sufficient quantities, but so far it is clear
        it's not at all like they say.
    3. The comment was deleted.
    4. LTCNL
      LTCNL 23 January 2023 13: 51
      -2
      Indeed, a valid observation. It feels like they are being released on purpose.
    5. YOUR
      YOUR 24 January 2023 06: 47
      +1
      At first they wrote that they shot down a helicopter at the moment it was hit from a nose-up. Now it turned out that they were flying for the highest command staff. Here the question arises, which senior command staff will be at the forefront. There is no higher level up to the battalion commander.
      1. Postcode
        Postcode 24 January 2023 13: 53
        0
        And this is what to consider "advanced"))))).... it and the platoon commander's KNP are located at a distance of up to 250 m from the position of the first line squad))) .... Ah, the brigade / regiment commander's KNP is at a distance direct fire impact, almost all art systems in service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine)))), it makes no sense to talk about aviation ...
  2. Uprun
    Uprun 23 January 2023 07: 45
    +3
    They have had no luck with helicopters lately ......
    1. dmi.pris1
      dmi.pris1 23 January 2023 07: 51
      -8
      Why exactly "recently"? And in terms of grinding forces .. of course, this often turns out mutually
  3. Leshak
    Leshak 23 January 2023 07: 52
    +9
    It is a pity that the second helicopter left ... There should be no air communication. I think the Wagnerites understand this very well and will take measures to land any aircraft in Artyomovsk.
    1. TIR
      TIR 24 January 2023 14: 19
      +1
      I watch you just a little. Watch the video. It’s still amazing how the MANPADS captured the target at such a distance and when firing unguided rockets plus heat traps. Yes, and the rocket reached the target. There are two rare cases superimposed on each other. Either mathematical luck or really MANPADS Verba top. I don't think Stinger or Needle could do that.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 23 January 2023 07: 56
    -2
    One of the two Mi-8 helicopters sent to Bakhmut was also shot down.
    Since they are sent realizing that there is little chance of flying and returning, it means that there really are those who need to be evacuated in the first place. I hope for them Artemovsk will be the last settlement they saw.
  5. voice of reason
    voice of reason 23 January 2023 07: 58
    -2
    Those same "immortal" brigade headquarters, which had to endlessly drive mobilized meat for slaughter. Karma hit...
  6. alexey_444
    alexey_444 23 January 2023 08: 09
    -9
    NATO works for 5 plus, the air defense of the Russian sun did not work. Land helicopters do not fly just like that, they are guaranteed to be safe, pilots are piece goods. There are good-eyed fighters on the front line.
    1. Mikhail Maslov
      Mikhail Maslov 23 January 2023 08: 21
      +1
      I don’t agree, the flight of three helicopters to Belgorod and the attack on the oil storage facility. Read Sladkov when they were hit by helicopters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Khodakovsky also points out dry helicopters strike at their units. and left intact. Not everything is as rosy as they are trying to present to us. The reality is harsh.
      1. YOUR
        YOUR 24 January 2023 06: 54
        +1
        If yes, if everything was rosy, then our troops stood on the Polish border and there was no Wagner, for example, where a decent part of the convict fighters
    2. bk316
      bk316 23 January 2023 12: 25
      +1
      NATO works for 5 plus, the air defense of the Russian sun did not work. Land helicopters do not fly just like that, they are guaranteed to be safe, pilots are piece goods.

      Somehow you contradict yourself. The turntable was shot down. Piece goods delivered to Bandera.
  7. DMFalke
    DMFalke 23 January 2023 08: 13
    +2
    representatives of senior officers and "major figures" from among foreigners

    Did they present the documents themselves? It is clear that anyhow (if people were transported at all) they will not be lucky, but as usual, the entire composition of NATO advisers has already been killed here for the second time.
    Well, what they shot down - well done, there would still be more serious systems nearby or interceptors, but how rich, as they say.
    1. AAC
      AAC 23 January 2023 09: 25
      -1
      "What are they, a basurman, feel sorry for, write more!" (FROM)
  8. Konnick
    Konnick 23 January 2023 08: 32
    +4
    In the sky over Artyomovsk, a Mi-8 helicopter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was shot down, trying to evacuate senior officers

    The authors of this news do not count everyone ...., rather, your stupid fantasy about senior officers will be the subject of ridicule. The style is very similar to local military correspondents, however, and to the creative head of the press service of the Moscow Region. Well, they shot down and shot down, they showed, well done, well, enough victorious reports.
  9. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 23 January 2023 08: 36
    0
    I hope he managed to take passengers on board before the downing?
  10. Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 23 January 2023 09: 56
    -4
    evacuation helicopters for command representatives and NATO instructors
    I saw footage of how army helicopters with employees of an ordinary Ukrainian ambulance landed in the basics and began to receive the wounded, some employees remained either to make more places for the wounded, or to treat the wounded on the spot.
  11. Fonmeg
    Fonmeg 23 January 2023 10: 17
    -3
    Another stuffing in the style of an arrestman?! And who will be responsible for mischief?
    1. bk316
      bk316 23 January 2023 12: 29
      +5
      And who will be responsible for mischief?

      Article without signature. Link "up to date."
      I would say the conscience of the owners of VO should answer.
  12. fima_tut
    fima_tut 23 January 2023 13: 13
    0
    Mariupol general who was sitting where? They wrote so much and ... silence, and here, apparently, gestures of some will. Was it a boy?
  13. NSV
    NSV 23 January 2023 14: 39
    +1
    It’s a pity the second one left, three benderoletuns didn’t go to their forefather !!! Honor and glory to the orchestra !!!
  14. Galleon
    Galleon 23 January 2023 16: 01
    +2
    Dear editors. If at one time I had come to report the morning intelligence report with such a map as yours, the brigade commander would have kicked me out and would have been very offended. You publish a map, but how about drawing everything that your text is about on it? Really no one served in your editorial office at all ?? How much is possible? You read, then in this microscopic picture you try to imagine a picture of the battle - to break your head! Meanwhile, the author of the publication is obliged to do this if you take on such a name as VO.
    1. Li17
      Li17 23 January 2023 18: 27
      +1
      Colleague agrees. More than that, uncomfortable comments began to be deleted ... The process began, well, like, do you want to offend Rogozin and Konoshenkov? You were told that it was, so it was! And finally, look how beautifully ours shoots and flies!
    2. Postcode
      Postcode 24 January 2023 13: 57
      0
      Like any media, they do not have the right to correctly apply tactical signs, correctly publish the BSP line, especially the positions of units, defense areas, etc.
  15. 933454818
    933454818 23 January 2023 17: 32
    0
    National dance of Ukraine - hopak on a rake feel
  16. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 24 January 2023 03: 45
    0
    "was there a boy" !!!??? Such articles are more and more reminiscent of foreign fakes, and not reliable information. "Likesos" made their way to this site.
  17. Valnik
    Valnik 24 January 2023 13: 38
    0
    A turntable is doubly dangerous. They can shoot down on the way. And at the retreat, everyone who has MANPADS will definitely be waiting. Rather, they simply worked as nurses.