Taranaq war. How the natives defeated the educated English

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Taranaq war. How the natives defeated the educated English


Stranger natives


Many Russians have seen the film Queen of the River. But few people really know which historical its plot is based on events. It centers on the relationship between an Irish girl and a Maori deserter who defected to the rebels because of the murder of his father.



The image of the field commander Rivkhi (Riva) Titokovaru is brilliantly embodied by Temuera Morrison, but there is no mention of the real character in the film: Titokovaru appears there as Te Kai Po, that is, the “eater of whites”.

What is the truth, and how did the Maori manage not only to create problems for the British regular army, but also to achieve results that no other enslaved peoples achieved against the British?


Who are they anyway?

Hypotheses of the origin of the Maori are very different. The version of the New Zealand historian Te Rangi Hiroa says that they came from a mixture of Polynesians, immigrants from Tahiti, with the Vikings, who allegedly sailed right up to those edges. Thor Heyerdahl indirectly confirmed this version. Maori is an Austronesian language and is native to Malaysia.

In Russia, they do not know very well who the Maori are, but the representatives of this people are quite well known. Mostly they are people of culture and art. First of all, of course, this is the director of films about James Bond, Lee Tamahori.

Also, the Russians are well aware of the actors Temuera Morrison, Cliff Curtis, Rina Owen, Kisha Castle-Hughes. Mamaengaroa Kerr-Bell is known to a lesser extent, but many remember the film of the nineties "Once they were warriors." Film actor Russell Crowe is a quarter Maori. And, of course, sports fans have probably seen the ritual dance “haka” performed by the New Zealand rugby team before each match.


Who did win?

The uprising of Titokovar turned out to be the most detrimental to the British authorities of all the anti-colonial actions that have ever taken place. Neither the Scottish rebellion of Wallis nor the Indian rebellion of the sepoys had such an effect, although for some reason they are better known.

However, it is easy to guess why - the UK, apparently, is ashamed to admit defeat from a people who at that time did not have not only their own written language, but even their own iron deposits. Maori taught how to use firearms weapons the British themselves, provoking a wave of so-called musket wars between various "iwi" - tribes. On your head.

There's only a year between past and future


The Titokovar uprising lasted only a year, from June 1868 to March 1869. It covered mainly the South Taranaki region on the North Island of New Zealand. Riva Titokovuru, chief of the Ngaruahina iwi, was guided by land claims against the British occupiers. He managed to draw the neighboring iwi Ngati Ruanui into the rebels.


But the disaster for the British was not even that two fairly large iwi participated in the uprising. The main problem was that among the rebels were Maori officers who received British higher military education.

Basically, the precedents of desertion and going over to the side of the rebels were associated with personal motives for revenge on the British for the murders, rapes, and deprivation of housing of the relatives of these officers. Naturally, the British were no longer faced with natives who could only fight with wooden weapons, but with qualified personnel.

The film "Queen of the River" contains many historical inaccuracies, which can be attributed to the director's fantasy. But Viremu, the hero of Cliff Curtis (a native of Rotorua, where the Maori language still dominates) is a very real character, and his case was typical of the uprising of the field commander Titokovuru. They killed his father in front of him, although he asked the British not to carry out such cruel sweeps in the Maori villages - so he betrayed the oath.

Moreover, many British experts in the field of fortification went over to the side of Titokovar, which allowed the rebels to hold their fortresses for a long period, made of wood, but treated with special means that did not allow them to be set on fire.

Most of the rebels used British firearms, and some even wore British uniforms, which did not always allow the British and the Maori who fought for them to distinguish the rebels from their own. The level of English proficiency among the Maori was already high then, which further erased the difference between their own and their opponents.

White and colored


Initially, the rebels attacked only white English-speaking settlers, who, in modern terms, were raiding land grabs. Then everything got worse. For the English.

In fact, all Britain's hopes of colonizing the Great White Cloud were shattered when a detachment led by a fugitive rebel led by field commander Riva Titokovuru attacked the British settlement of Te Kooti. It was captured. Further attempts to fight the rebels brought only temporary success due to the fact that they were armed and prepared strategically no worse than the British.

Further, among the British, a panic fear arose of the charismatic leader of two iwi at once, who took part in the uprising. Why?

Yes, for the same reason that the Germans were fiercely afraid of the Maori warriors in World War II. The tradition of eating the heart of a dead enemy clearly did not suit the Europeans. Titokovuru also introduced it as a common occurrence after each battle, proclaiming himself a prophet and demanding the observance of the traditions of Maori paganism.

Initially, given the small number of government troops in New Zealand, they faced a serious problem: the number of rebels participating in the battles outnumbered the British by about 12 times. In the future, Maori from other iwi were connected to the fighting, the number was approximately equal.

Even later, reinforcements of the regular army arrived from other regions of the empire. But this did not help in the face of the almost massive desertion of volunteers from the British militia.

As a result, the British army was forced to withdraw from South Taranaki. The rebels occupied the territory between the settlements of New Plymouth and Wanganui.

He did not lose a single battle during the uprising to Titokovar. But he had to stop the campaign after the British, under the command of Colonel George Stoddart Whitmore, managed to track down his headquarters in the Ngaere marshes. Riva miraculously managed to escape. But even after that, the British government feared attacks on Wanganui and Manawat.

And the uprising began with primitive sabotage. The rebels vandalized the surveying equipment used by the white settlers to "divide" the land, and also damaged their newly built homes. Then began the theft of agricultural implements and other property of whites. Violent action against the individual began in June 1868, when three settlers were killed by the rebels for cutting down a forest that the Maori considered theirs.

Then they shot a colonial policeman, and almost next to the military unit in Waihi. Then events occurred that the British clearly did not expect at all. The assassins took the body of a policeman to the village of Te Ngutu o Te Manu, ate most of his body, after which Titokovuru sent a lengthy letter to the British.

Obviously, it was written by one of the Maori deserters who went over to the side of the rebels, in literate English, where Titokovar threatened to do the same to the rest of the whites who came to the land of his iwi "day and night." Since this all started.

The British reinforced the military grouping of the colonial troops not only with fellow countrymen, but also with the Maori from iwi Wanganui. At the first stage, there was that very “partial mobilization”, during which Maori from friendly iwi were called up for three months. Strengthening was also carried out at the expense of volunteer riflemen from Wellington.

Win strategy


The main strategy of Titokovar's actions was developed, in general, not by him, but by deserters from the British regular troops who had a higher military education. Already the first battle with the British army showed the strategic superiority of the rebels. The first raid on a British military unit was led by defector Charles Kane.

His Maori name is unknown, as when receiving a British education, students were assigned English names and surnames. The advantage in this case lay in the attack at dawn, when the personnel of the garrison was sleeping, and in the numerical superiority of the rebels.


Titokovuru himself did not take part in the raid, remaining at Te Ngutu o Te Manu, the main base of his command headquarters. The rebels ate two British soldiers' hearts, causing Commander McDonnell to kiss the blade of his saber and vow revenge for it.

News for Maori military practice was that the British created a cavalry unit under Patea Yeomanry. Before the arrival of the British, horses were not found in New Zealand. Maori, of course, did not know how to ride.

But the British regular army gave them riding lessons. The result, as always, was disastrous for the British: in the ranks of the rebels Titokovar turned out to be a significant number of deserters who had mastered the skills of handling a horse. Riva Titokovar himself knew how to ride a horse.

An attempt by the British to storm Te Ngutu o Te Manu turned into a fiasco. The fortification specialists of the Maori rebels put up several rows of palisades there, impregnated with fire-fighting agents. McDonnell only succeeded in burning part of the village outside the fortress.

But this only caused even greater Maori fury and even more desertion and defection of Maori fighters to the side of the rebels. From the side of the fortress, the British were “welcomed” by heavy fire, under which they had to retreat while pursuing the rebels.

The plan to attack the village of Ruaruru turned out to be even more disastrous for the British troops: a column of 360 fighters simply passed without orientation right up to the rebel base, fired several random shots at the base itself, where they immediately met fierce resistance.

Shots from Titokovuru were fired this time not from the base, but from the trenches built around it, and from different directions, which led to the complete disorientation of the British military. Also, shots were fired from trees, what this can lead to is known from recent history from Finnish snipers - "cuckoos".

The heart of the first British soldier killed was also eaten by the rebels. McDonnell, long before the practice of Soviet detachments, personally shot at the retreating first, although at the time of these murders he had already given the order to retreat. At the same time, many residents of neighboring villages, already tired of British repression, joined the rebels.

National Shame and the Mystery of Victory


The attempt to storm the base of Riva Titokovar was for the British the largest defeat in the entire national history. This is recognized even by British military historians. The consequences were disastrous for the British, if only because the numerous Maori iwi Kupapo, who had previously cooperated with them voluntarily, refused to cooperate with them, moreover, there was a riot of white rangers.

The defeat of the British led a little later to even more far-reaching consequences. Riva Titokovaru received the support of neighboring hapus from the same iwi: the number of rebels almost doubled. It was no longer a defense, but an offensive. For such events, McDonnell was fired by London, replacing him with George Whitmore.


But his operations against the rebels were not successful either. When he attacked the positions of Titokovuru, again the Maori rebels opened fire from several sides, at close range. Whitmore gave the order to retreat. This time, the British soldiers were so disoriented that they periodically opened fire on their own.

But members of the Kupapa tribe shot in the back of the British in front, as dissatisfaction with the massive sweeps of villages grew in their tribe. Whatever Whitmore did next, all this was accompanied by new fortification solutions from Titokovar specialists. Moreover, they gave a view of the coast in those places where the passage to it was hampered by impenetrable forest. Massacres have already begun even of the peaceful white population. The British began to build lines of defense.

The British managed to somehow cope with the Titokovar uprising under circumstances that have not yet been clarified. Apparently, spies had an influence, inducing their iwi and hapu to go over to the side of the British. Another siege of the rebel fortress caused a mass exodus of soldiers from it through those loopholes that the British had not been blocked.

There is a not-so-real opinion from one of the captured deserters that Riva Titokovaru lost his charismatic influence over the rebels after committing adultery with the wife of another iwi chief.

The headhunt has begun. First of all, this was done by the Maori themselves from the “friendly” iwi with particular cruelty. For the heads of field commanders, the British gave 10 pounds sterling, which for the Maori of those times was decent money.

Finally, Titokovara and a small group of supporters were "covered" in the swamps in the lands of his iwi. They were exhausted, had no sources of fire, ate worms and mushrooms, so it was not a problem to take them prisoner.

Although Titokovara could have been sentenced to death, the British apparently feared a repeat of the mass unrest, so they sentenced him to prison. Having been released, the leader switched to peaceful tactics of fighting for the rights of his people.

The result of the uprising was more peaceful relations between the Maori and the settlers and further concessions to the colonial administration on the land issue.
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  1. +18
    18 January 2023 04: 51

    The white man brought freedom, democracy and progress to the natives of New Zealand and Australia...
    1. +11
      18 January 2023 05: 18
      This is still a peaceful photo ... there is a video where white people hunted local aborigines ... the genitals were cut off for the sake of fun. request
      So the fact that the Maori ate the killed Englishmen does not surprise me, they considered eating their enemy in the order of things and among the British there were sadists about them, though the Anglo-Saxons prefer not to spread ... oh times, oh people.
      1. +7
        18 January 2023 15: 28
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        and among the British there were sadists about them, though the Anglo-Saxons prefer not to spread ... about times, about people.

        The sergeant-major looked at Schweik and began:
        - Is it true that people in Russia drink a lot of tea? Is there rum too?
        - There is rum all over the world, mister sergeant major.
        “It’s starting to get out,” the sergeant-major thought. “Before, you had to think about what you were saying!” And, leaning intimately towards Schweik, he asked:
        - Are there any pretty girls in Russia?
        - There are pretty girls all over the world, mister sergeant major.
    2. +8
      18 January 2023 13: 50
      So what? Previously, the natives cut each other, and then the whites came and began to cut them all in a row. For the one who was slaughtered, it doesn’t matter who did it, his cannibal or the “come in large numbers” white. laughing

      And whites, unlike the same Maori, did not eat human flesh.
      1. +5
        18 January 2023 20: 13
        And the whites, unlike the same Maori, did not eat human flesh.

        Good evening Uncle Kostya! There is documentary evidence to the contrary. And not far from the events described - about. Tasmania.
    3. TIR
      +1
      April 2 2023 20: 34
      Nazism is forgotten. Just Nazism arose as a result of the colonial policy of European countries. But it was formed in England and took shape there. And one must be ignorant and uneducated to think that it originated in East Prussia. This point of view was simply adopted after World War II in order to whitewash and evade the responsibility of England and the USA. Moreover, the USSR also accepted this frank misinformation for political reasons. At least one historian can put his authority on the line and convince listeners that such a powerful ideology as Nazism could have arisen in 2 years in some kind of W. Prussia ??? It has been forming under the wing of England for hundreds of years. Why don't we at least tell the truth about Nazism in our history books. How it was born and strengthened under the wing of the royal family, how Germany, Japan and Italy, trying to jump into the carriage with the colonial countries on the go, took their basis from these countries. How slightly correcting it to fit their perceptions created fascism, Japanese imperialism and Nazism, which claimed the lives of millions of people. After all, all these forms came out of this colonial era. Moreover, Nazism has not gone away in Europe and the USA. He just hid behind the screen of democracy and freedom
  2. +9
    18 January 2023 05: 36
    Apparently, spies had an influence, inducing their iwi and hapu to go over to the side of the British.
    Politics won, divide and rule.
    1. +13
      18 January 2023 09: 57
      Or maybe the donkey helped win. Well, the one who
      "A donkey loaded with gold will take any fortress."
  3. +16
    18 January 2023 06: 35
    Thank you! Very interesting. Didn't watch the movie.

    Haka is definitely a phenomenon.

    I wonder what kind of trees the fort was built from?

    Maori boats were made of an interesting tree - Totara's foot fruit. Exceptionally resistant to decay. And the shipworm won't eat it.
    1. +11
      18 January 2023 09: 54
      Haka is definitely a phenomenon.
      Yeah, All Blacks matches are always memorable not only because of the game, but also because of this.How a white man (obviously not Maori) tries in the foreground to show what he is going to do with his rivals
      1. +10
        18 January 2023 13: 15
        Yeah, All Blacks matches are always memorable not only because of the game, but also because of this.

        When I was still watching TV, I saw this very hack - my admiration knew no bounds! wassat )))
        1. +2
          18 January 2023 22: 11
          In that case, I recommend watching the video. Japanese victory march. China, Nanjing, 1937 Unfortunately, I can't upload videos. smile

          Only instead of admiration, I was disgusted with the "highly cultured" nation from the islands.
      2. +4
        18 January 2023 19: 21
        Yes. This comes up in the discussion here from time to time. And nothing is better remembered than in New Zealand.
    2. +12
      18 January 2023 09: 57
      I wonder what kind of trees the fort was built from?

      Puriri. It grows only on the North Island of New Zealand.
      1. +2
        18 January 2023 19: 23
        Interesting, albeit unusual. I thought it had to do with burial places.

        I didn’t even think that such specimens come across in the Lamiaceae family.
  4. +13
    18 January 2023 06: 35
    Ah, proud and freedom-loving Maori!
    I want to remind you that these white and fluffy (yes, exactly these!), 30 years before the events described in the article, made a nightmare of the natives of the Chatham Archipelago. Just killed and eaten. Nearly 2000 people. “We took over in accordance with our customs and caught everyone. None escaped. We killed those who escaped, some others too, but what of that? It was in accordance with our custom!” (With)
    Was genocide invented by whites? Maybe it's enough already to breed snot in syrup, pay and repent?
    1. +12
      18 January 2023 07: 08
      The Maori were not aboriginal people.

      And they were introduced, approximately as you described, Anton.

      Not exactly to this region, but Jack London in Tales of the South Seas has a lot of interesting sketches.
      1. +11
        18 January 2023 07: 28
        The Maori were not aboriginal people.
        Moriori lived on Chatham.
        1. +11
          18 January 2023 07: 44
          Now only a few of this indigenous people remain. And even then, perhaps, half-breeds.

          However, the line between neighboring tribes - try to draw.
          1. +11
            18 January 2023 08: 44
            Now only a few of this indigenous people remain. And even then, perhaps, half-breeds.

            It was in consequence of the events of 1835.
            I'm all to the fact that nefig ashamed of the "burden of the white man." All these "popuases" and without the participation of the "come in large numbers" Europeans with great pleasure rotted each other, from the beginning of time to the present day.
            1. +10
              18 January 2023 13: 35
              with great pleasure rot each other,

              And where it was different, that in Africa, that in Latin America, everyone slaughtered each other with great pleasure, ate a little man, made bloody sacrifices and generally had all sorts of fun. laughing
              And the whites were not much different from them, the whole history of Europeans is one continuous massacre, except that they did not tear out the hearts of living people and did not eat captives, although there is still enough perverted cruelty.
              Good afternoon, Anton. hi
            2. +3
              18 January 2023 19: 25
              Yes. It is hard for a peace-loving tribe to live long.

              And it started with the fact that there were not enough resources for everyone.
              1. +5
                18 January 2023 19: 47
                Resources for Cro-Magnons are always in short supply. We are such a tribe, greedy for everything that lies badly. Sitting, standing, running slowly, thinking before killing...
                1. +4
                  18 January 2023 20: 04
                  Do you think Neanderthals would have been different?

                  I really liked Golding's The Heirs.
          2. +9
            18 January 2023 14: 37
            Now only a few of this indigenous people remain.


            So they ate it all up. laughing

            1. +4
              18 January 2023 19: 26
              “The ogre invites the ogre to dinner ...” (c).
              1. +4
                18 January 2023 19: 42
                I knew you were quoting! Left room for action.
                1. +3
                  18 January 2023 20: 05
                  During communication, you can guess the inclinations.
              2. +3
                18 January 2023 20: 17
                My uncle, who got the boar,
                When he was alive, he warned me:
                It is impossible to take a wife from cannibals!
                1. +3
                  18 January 2023 20: 35
                  On the remains of huge conflagrations
                  Pithecanthropus was preparing a spear.
                  Six bloodthirsty tribes fought |
                  For her beautiful lips.
                  1. +3
                    18 January 2023 22: 21
                    Uncle got out of the cave
                    Looks worse than cholera
                    chunky hairy
                    Sloping forehead
                    1. +3
                      18 January 2023 22: 26
                      And in cloudy Greenland, and in sunny Italy
                      A man carried with him all his possessions:
                      A piece of mammoth skin around a mighty waist,
                      A stone ax under his arm, and a spear in his hand.
        2. +10
          18 January 2023 09: 43
          And the Moriori are an interesting people, although they were at a lower stage of development (a hunter-gatherer society), cannibalism was prohibited among them and pacifism was widespread, a cultural prohibition on waging wars and did not have military traditions and organization. The Moriori were in heavy slavery among the Maori, they were forbidden to marry among themselves, and Moriori women were forbidden to have children with Moriori men. So it turns out that every people standing at a higher level of development seeks to enslave other peoples standing at a lower level .. Did the events take place in the 19th century? When did the British drive the Maori out of their land?
          1. +7
            18 January 2023 13: 27
            Moriori are interesting people.

            Especially considering that the Moriori are descended from the Maori. This is, in fact, the same people, only living in different conditions.
            1. +6
              18 January 2023 14: 13
              Moriori are descended from Maori
              One of the tribes, they have it so difficult there smile It seems the same, however ... There is a book, Tales of Polynesia or Legends and fairy tales, I don’t remember already .. you dig more in the links ... than you read the text .. smile
            2. +7
              18 January 2023 14: 29
              Moriori are descended from the Maori.


              "Cossacks descended from Cossacks" (c) Yes
    2. +4
      18 January 2023 10: 40
      Ah, proud and freedom-loving Maori!

      Just in continuation of yesterday's discussion about the aggression of illiterate authors and low-quality publications.
      The author, which has already become a tradition, writes about what he does not know at all. First, the First Taranaki War, the Second Taranaki War, and the Titokovar War are three different wars out of the nine New Zealand Wars. That is, for a correct understanding of the course of events, at least a brief coverage of the "historical moment" and this very "moment" of the participants is necessary. But the author is not at all interested in objective coverage of events, because the main thing here is to "get into the stream of the moment" and highlight how the insidious Anglo-Saxons were beaten by the "bright Maori elves." This is if in general.
      If in detail, then here you can write about the fantasies of the author for a long time. Some "Maori officers who received a British higher military education" are worth something.
    3. +9
      18 January 2023 11: 32
      https://warspot-livejournal-com.turbopages.org/warspot.livejournal.com/s/6196.html
      "In 1820, one of the Ngapuhi military leaders, Hongi Hika, managed to acquire 300 muskets at once. Over the next few years, an all-out war broke out in the North Island, during which the Ngapuhi suffered heavy losses, but managed to completely defeat their rivals. "
      The Maori tribes themselves perfectly shot and slaughtered their own kind from other tribes and clans!
      Having trained each on the "relatives" they were able to learn how to resist the British!
      Wikipedia points out - the "New Zealand Land Wars" lasted from 1845 to 1872!
      Forces of the parties:
      British - up to 18 thousand
      Maori - up to 5 thousand
      Losses:
      British - 745
      Maori - 2154
    4. +7
      18 January 2023 13: 19
      Maybe it's enough already to breed snot in syrup, pay and repent?

      More than support, Anton! hi )))
    5. +4
      18 January 2023 13: 28
      I want to remind you that these white and fluffy (yes, exactly these!), 30 years before the events described in the article, made a nightmare of the natives of the Chatham Archipelago.

      The natives of the Chatham archipelago are also Maori.
      1. +6
        18 January 2023 14: 41
        I know, but does that change the massacre?
        1. +9
          18 January 2023 15: 11
          The right to cut each other is one thing. Massacre is not a rare episode in history. In this case, I am personally annoyed not by the fact that someone cut someone - a matter of life, but by the attempts of some civilized peoples to legalize this right in legal terms and monopolize it.
          1. +4
            18 January 2023 16: 34
            I personally am annoyed not by the fact that someone cut someone - a matter of life, but by the attempts of some civilized peoples to legalize this right in legal terms and monopolize it.

            By the way, attempts by representatives of some nations to justify their attempts at massacre by other people's attempts are no less annoying.
            1. +9
              18 January 2023 17: 32
              Quote from Passeur
              no less annoying

              Whom how. I think it's "different". smile
              It's one thing when they cut us - now we cut them, it's a mutual matter, it's another thing when someone cut someone somewhere, and we, like, punish him for it, because nothing ...
              No, of course, I am against any massacre, genocide, etc. But I know that in nature these things have existed, exist and will exist. Therefore, I would like to have, just in case, my own inalienable right to massacre whomever I see fit. Without any permission or direction from anyone.
              1. +7
                18 January 2023 17: 52
                Very nice, I liked it from word to word, and with subtext, everything has long been clear. You know how, Mikhail, to express your thoughts beautifully and competently. smile
                I, too, am against any massacre, but there is one old naval rule: "If you don't want to get a hole in your side, hit someone else's side first." wink

                1. +4
                  18 January 2023 18: 15
                  but there is one old sea rule: "If you do not want to get a hole in your own side, hit the other side first."

                  You forgot one more obligatory condition of this rule - all staying on a foreign board must go to the bottom. And then it may suddenly turn out that no one was going to beat it.
                  1. +5
                    18 January 2023 18: 43
                    I didn't forget anything, but this "prerequisite" someone just came up with. smile
                    1. +3
                      18 January 2023 18: 59
                      and this "prerequisite" someone just came up with.
                      Admiral Doenitz.
                      1. +3
                        18 January 2023 19: 13
                        You are mistaken, long before Doenitz took command of the submarine fleet, in Germany there were submarine commanders who honestly deserved the proud title of "War Criminal". For example, Max Valentiner, a friend of Schwieger who drowned the Lusitania.
                        And after World War II, only one commander of a German submarine was tried, although some of them did not live to see the end of the war.
                        But the Teuton was far from the Japanese sailors of the same war.
                    2. +3
                      18 January 2023 19: 12
                      All the rules and prerequisites someone once "invented".
                      ...things are impossible
                      Arise from nothing and, having been born, turn into nothing...
                2. +5
                  18 January 2023 19: 28
                  “And we raised this faith ourselves,
                  Raising the black flag "(c).
          2. +7
            18 January 2023 17: 27
            attempts by some civilized peoples to legalize this right in legal terms and monopolize it.
            Do the Aztecs and Incas fall under this definition?
            1. +6
              18 January 2023 17: 56
              Civilized peoples?
              Don't be a bore, Anton. If it matters to you, the phrase can be formulated as: "certain peoples who consider themselves civilized." smile
              1. +8
                18 January 2023 18: 00
                Don't be a bore, Anton.
                Too late to rush about!)))
                1. +6
                  18 January 2023 20: 19
                  Did the Aztecs and Incas consider themselves uncivilized?
                  They carried the "light of civilization" to the "dark personalities" of the jungle and pampas!
          3. +2
            18 January 2023 22: 23
            On the rights of the fast ones (the first to reach, conditionally, a steam boiler), why not? Not sports, yes. But effective. And, by and large, in the historical perspective, the victims now have something that they could not count on naturally.
        2. +6
          18 January 2023 16: 31
          Doesn't cancel, of course. Although in history such a phenomenon is not something unique. On the other hand, the complete refusal of the Moriori to resist is surprising.
    6. +4
      18 January 2023 15: 14
      Then we must tell the whole truth, how they got to Chatham.
      And this happened as a result of extermination wars between the natives, accompanied by genocides of the tribes, after the British supplied them with weapons and paid for the heads of the leaders.
      1. +7
        18 January 2023 16: 44
        The Moriori moved to Chatham at the end of the 1769th century. The British first arrived in the region in XNUMX.
        Don't you think that your constructions somewhat violate the cause-and-effect relationships?
        1. +6
          18 January 2023 16: 50
          Dunkan seems to be referring to the arrival of the Maori in Chatham.
          1. +6
            18 January 2023 17: 11
            Thus, one can agree to the fact that the Comanches nightmare of neighboring tribes solely through the fault of the scoundrels of Europeans who brought horses to America.
            1. +6
              18 January 2023 18: 08
              You can do it easier - do not interpret the course of events "in some light." Objectively, the Ngati-Mutunga and Ngati-Tama tribes were driven out to Chatham during the musket wars.
              The reason for the latter can be explained either by the "cunning of the Anglo-Saxons" (a very popular version in certain circles), or by O'Henry (very unpopular).
              1. +6
                18 January 2023 18: 21
                "the cunning of the Anglo-Saxons" (a very popular version in certain circles),
                Oh yeah!!! You might think that domestic pioneers behaved somehow differently, from Yermak to Khabarov.
                But I didn’t understand or don’t remember about O’Henry ... Although one of my favorite novelists.
                1. +3
                  18 January 2023 18: 36
                  But I didn’t understand about O’Henry

                  It's not about which path we choose, it's about what's inside of us that makes us choose the path.
                  1. +5
                    18 January 2023 18: 48
                    In my opinion, not much different from the phrase attributed to Marcus Aurelius.
                    1. +3
                      18 January 2023 19: 07
                      Frankly, I am very superficially familiar with the intellectual heritage of both ancient Greek and ancient Roman philosophers.
                      1. +5
                        18 January 2023 19: 22
                        Well, I don’t know how much Marcus Aurelius is a philosopher, it’s more suitable for emperors to “wet in the toilet”. However...
                        Fais ce que dois, advienne, que pourra - Do what you must, and come what may.
                      2. +4
                        18 January 2023 19: 26
                        I beg to differ. Before you "do what you should", you need to determine for yourself this "what you should". Choose a path, in other words.
                      3. +4
                        18 January 2023 19: 36
                        And how does this not correlate with the fact that "it's what's inside of us, it makes us choose a path."?
                      4. +4
                        18 January 2023 19: 45
                        "Not correlated" I would not say. One precedes the other.
                      5. +3
                        18 January 2023 20: 06
                        "High Latin" is very ambiguous, but we do not know the phonetics and the circumstances (I note, small!) accompanying this phrase.
                2. +1
                  19 January 2023 17: 09
                  What happened to those who lived before the appearance of those whom Yermak had already met ??? lol
  5. +8
    18 January 2023 08: 17
    The version of the New Zealand historian Te Rangi Hiroa says that they came from a mixture of Polynesians, immigrants from Tahiti, with the Vikings, who allegedly sailed right up to those edges.

    Where did he write this? Hiroa, unlike Tour, was friendly with the head. His book describes in detail not only which of the heroes discovered New Zealand, but even the names of all the boats of the settlers who then arrived there. And a brief history of each tribe from each boat
    1. +7
      18 January 2023 11: 39
      Where did he write this?

      This is another confirmation of the author's ignorance in this matter. First, Te Rangi Hīroa is not a historian, he is a doctor.
      Secondly - he really has a book "VIKINGS OF THE SUNRISE" (Vikings of the dawn or Vikings of the morning dawn), which he wrote in 1954. In the preface he writes
      I may be criticized for applying the term Vikings to the Polynesian ancestors, but the term has come to mean bold, intrepid mariners and so is not the monopoly of the hardy Norsemen of the North Atlantic.

      I may be criticized for applying the term "Vikings" to Polynesian ancestors, but the term has come to refer to bold, fearless seafarers and is therefore not a monopoly of the hardy Scandinavians of the North Atlantic.
      1. +4
        18 January 2023 18: 35
        First, Te Rangi Hīroa is not a historian, he is a doctor.
        Well, as far as I understand, the main profession does not deny the contribution of the individual to historical science. As in the case of Oakeshott.
        1. +2
          18 January 2023 21: 05
          the contribution of the individual to historical science

          So no one argues with the contribution of the individual. Just to be precise, in addition to medicine, Te Rangi Hīroa has contributed to anthropology.
    2. +8
      18 January 2023 11: 56
      Where did he write this?
      ..Apparently the author read in such a way that he mistook the figurative meaning for a direct one.
      1. +6
        18 January 2023 13: 07
        Apparently the author read

        I strongly doubt that the author has even read anything on this subject, let alone Te Rangi Hīroa.
        He couldn't even read about Lee Tamahori properly. Tamahori has a "director films about James Bond", although Lee is the director of only one of twenty Bond films.
  6. +8
    18 January 2023 08: 46
    but also to achieve results that none of the enslaved peoples ever achieved against the English?
    I never understood what these results were. They won a number of victories (the author does not give losses), in the end they lost. Or like eating hearts and other body parts?! dubious achievement
    1. +8
      18 January 2023 11: 33
      Wikipedia points out - the "New Zealand Land Wars" lasted from 1845 to 1872!
      Forces of the parties:
      British - up to 18 thousand
      Maori - up to 5 thousand
      Losses:
      British - 745
      Maori - 2154
      1. +6
        18 January 2023 15: 24
        Quote: hohol95
        Losses:
        British - 745
        Maori - 2154

        Wallace's warriors only in the battle on the Streling bridge laid 10 times more than the British. And the scale of losses in battles with sepoys is much higher
        1. +4
          18 January 2023 20: 23
          The Scots are the "wild Britons"!
          They can.
          Sepoys were trained by the British themselves.
          In general, they can be said to be the first PMC in the world!
          And their weapons were quite modern.
  7. +6
    18 January 2023 11: 53
    Having been released, the leader switched to peaceful tactics of fighting for the rights of his people.
    .. In 1886, he participated in the peaceful occupation of lands near Manai. Titokovara and nine others were taken to Wellington and after spending two and a half months in prison, they were tried and sentenced to prison, where he died.
  8. +6
    18 January 2023 14: 13
    Quote: not the one
    Or maybe the donkey helped win. Well, the one who
    "A donkey loaded with gold will take any fortress."


    Not this way.
    "If a donkey loaded with gold can enter a fortress, it is already doomed"
  9. +8
    18 January 2023 14: 22
    And about "cuckoos":
    One of the brightest legends of the Soviet-Finnish war, which began on November 30, 1939, was the “cuckoo” - allegedly Finns camouflaged in the trees, opening fire on the soldiers of the Red Army.

    Somehow I already argued with one comrade that it is difficult to come up with a position for a sniper worse than a tree in the forest. Given that the sniper unmasks the first shot and he has to change position ... well, here the tree sucks, plus there is simply nowhere to fire at a long distance in the forest, and the distance to the enemy is also a kind of protection, try to get off the tree in full view of the enemy and hide . If we plant someone on a tree, a machine gunner with a martyr's belt. This legend was beneficial to the Finns, because the Red Army men frantically looked for "cuckoos", staring up at the trees, and they flew in from the ground, as usual.
    1. +6
      18 January 2023 14: 58
      There were no snipers in the trees in the Finnish war, there were observers and spotters, here you are right. A suicide bomber on a tree is also not needed, especially with a martyr's belt. laughing
      But in the conditions of the XIX century. such tactics were actually used (and quite successfully), for example, in the American Civil War.
      1. +6
        18 January 2023 15: 10
        Well, as an ambush, but not alone - yes, when you know that your own people will be covered in case of something. And alone - it does not matter, a machine gunner, a gunner, a sniper - a ready suicide bomber. In the case of the Maori, this is an ambush, and when they talk about "cuckoos" - then exactly about snipers.
        1. +5
          18 January 2023 15: 33
          A machine gunner and a sniper on a tree in the conditions of the Finnish war - yes, a suicide bomber. It is enough to simply determine on which tree, or group of trees, he is sitting, and with the forces of one branch, this tree can be combed with fire so that there is no chance left. The observer, or spotter, does not unmask himself in any way, so his chances of surviving are much higher.
          In the XNUMXth century it was impossible to create such a density of fire - the arrow, seated in the crown of a tree, needed to be seen directly in order to shoot down. And if several more of his comrades were sitting at the roots of the tree, the task of shooting down the sniper became very difficult.
          So in the Finnish war - no, in the XNUMXth century. - Yes.
          As for the numerous memoirs of our soldiers about the "cuckoos", that is, lone snipers sitting in the trees, these stories are nothing more than legends. And the Finns do not confirm the use of such tactics. At the same time, it must be said that an observer or spotter, quietly sitting on a Christmas tree in a carefully camouflaged cradle and reporting everything he sees, does much more harm than a lone sniper.
          1. +3
            18 January 2023 16: 56
            an observer or spotter, quietly sitting on a Christmas tree in a carefully camouflaged cradle and reporting everything he sees,

            This is true, but I don’t know how the Finns had communication at that time, in other words, did they have walkie-talkies that you could easily carry with you through the trees, and it’s somehow dumb to use a wired phone, find an observer by wire very simple. The Germans used aviation for correction and observation, although it is also a problem to see anything in the forest area ..
            1. +4
              18 January 2023 17: 52
              At the Luga boundary, in the place where the Pskov highway descends into the valley of the Obla River on the southern outskirts of Luga, there are several monuments, including a bunker and a pine tree, on which there is a sign that there was an observation post on this pine tree in 1941 177 SD.
              Apparently, they pulled telephone cables. They are not that hard to disguise.
              It is practically impossible to see an observer, even knowing that it was on this tree that he was hiding, unless, standing directly near the trunk, this is not a fact. smile
            2. +3
              18 January 2023 17: 55
              Hi Uncle Kostya!
              The first "handy-current" Motorola SCR-300 was created in 1940. So the Finns will "peel off".
              1. +3
                18 January 2023 18: 42
                Yes, for the American army. And with it you can’t climb trees very much, and “woki-toki” appeared later.



                I didn’t understand only where, how, or how the Finns would “peel off”. request
                1. +3
                  18 January 2023 18: 57
                  Sorry local meme.
                  "Lend me a loan?
                  - You'll get off!
                  1. +4
                    18 January 2023 19: 20
                    Nephew, despite the fact that you are my nephew, it is simply indecent to speak "bird language" in polite society. laughing
                    1. +5
                      18 January 2023 19: 40
                      And I'm generally antisocial monster. You can ask Kolya.
                      1. +4
                        18 January 2023 20: 07
                        antisocial monster.

                        Do not pretend to be unattainable, you are just an "early medieval scumbag." laughing drinks
                      2. +1
                        18 January 2023 20: 14
                        1. How does this contradict what I said above?
                        2. Uncle, are you stuck on the word "early feudal"?
                      3. +2
                        18 January 2023 21: 57
                        .How does this contradict what I said above?


                        La no way, a monster is a monster, if everything is in good health. laughing

                        Where did I somehow mention the feudal lords? laughing
                      4. +4
                        18 January 2023 20: 13
                        You can order a business card: “Asocial monster. I love to meet."
                2. +2
                  18 January 2023 20: 54
                  Quote: Sea Cat
                  and "woki-toki" appeared later.


                  Penny telegraph keys for wired telegraph solved the problem long before radio stations, especially since there were simple special high-speed "match" keys.
                  http://ruqrz.com/kollektsioniruem-telegrafnye-klyuchi/
                  Well, there were also signal lights and heliographs and mirrors (the Maori observers could use the latter - all the same, their opponents did not fight at night and work for observers was only during the day).
                  1. +2
                    18 January 2023 21: 51
                    Penny telegraph keys for wired telegraph solved the problem long before radio stations,


                    And in what war, observers, spotters of which army actually used these devices?
                    It makes no sense to talk about lanterns, mirrors and other things. It's about the Soviet-Finnish war.
                    1. +1
                      19 January 2023 22: 19
                      A typical use of early telegraphs was in coastal fortresses and harbors, to monitor the movement of enemy ships, adjust artillery, and monitor troop concentrations ("Telegraph during the Crimean War").
                      In general, the use of the telegraph by Napoleon (and he was a technically advanced person - he used wireless data transmission, using the technologies of those years) for "remote warfare" from his palace ("Napoleon's telegraph"), it was so memorable that telegraphers still learn the key, although microphones have been invented for a century.
                      There were even telegraph troops (predecessors of radio communications).
              2. +4
                18 January 2023 21: 38
                The first "handy-current" Motorola SCR-300 was created in 1940.

                And the first "walkie talkie" was created in 1937 by Donald Hings for CM&S. In 1939, the kit was tested for aviation.
      2. +5
        18 January 2023 15: 34
        There were no snipers in the trees in the Finnish war,

        Some of our "authors" added to the fact that all Finnish "cuckoos" were armed with the Suomi KP / -31 p / p and literally poured fire on our infantry, which is generally complete nonsense.

        And the snipers used the good old Mosinka, which was produced in Finland, and they did not sit on trees, because this is blatant stupidity.
        1. +2
          18 January 2023 22: 02
          The Finns themselves fully produced only the 1939 model.
          All Finnish "mosin / revolvers" of previous models were a set of Russian parts (still made under the tsar) and foreign production. The Finns bought old rifles from the Poles and all those who owned "mosquitoes" they did not need.
          1. +2
            18 January 2023 22: 57
            The Finns themselves fully produced only the 1939 model.


          2. +1
            19 January 2023 00: 26
            The Finns themselves fully produced only the 1939 model.

            The Finns have never produced receivers.
  10. +4
    18 January 2023 14: 58
    But what concessions, the British court took away all the lands from the Maori.
    It was strictly forbidden to sell any weapons to the natives.
    The old "divide and conquer" tactic, with bribery and blood feuds, worked. Money was paid for the murders and the heads of the leaders, then everything went by itself.
    At the same time, New Zealand was the first to give women the right to vote, and was considered the most democratic country.
  11. 0
    19 January 2023 12: 23
    The article is really informative for the horizon. But who told the author that rugby, and even more so the accompanying dances with a tambourine, are popular to be known in Russia? I once five minutes in my life and looked at this rugby, and then while I was changing the batteries in the remote control, it didn’t catch, I switched, I forgot. The popularity of rugby is at the level of statistical error