Some characteristics of Chinese J-31 (F-60)

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I do not know how reliable these characteristics are, but they are published on the website of the official press organ of the Chinese Communist Party, Renmin Ribao. Interestingly, it is stated that J-31 engines are WS-13A, that is, copies of RD-93 engines from Guizhou.



The fourth-generation Jian-31 fighter, developed by AVIC Shenyang Aircraft Corporation, was escorted by the Jian-31 in the center of test flights of new aircraft, Shenfei, successfully made its first flight. After the successful flight of the first model of the invisible fighter "Jian-11", which was developed by the Chengdu Aircraft Company, China has once again demonstrated its ability to develop advanced fighters.

The wingspan of this combat aircraft is 10.70 m, length - 15.47 m, height - 4.57 m, wing area - 42.7 square. Maximum take-off weight - 27 thousand 215 kg, maximum combat load - 5897 kg.

“Jian-31” is equipped with two turbofans with a double rotary 13A engine, the driving force of each turbofan reaches 8300 kg. The increase in the engine's driving force increased the maneuverability of the aircraft at medium and low altitude, as well as improved the ability of the fighter to take off and land. A combat aircraft is equipped with a controlled air-to-air projectile; in addition, a fighter can accommodate another weapon or fuel tanks, has the ability to intercept and assault (that is, it is a fighter-bomber).

Military analysts believe that the Jian-31 is similar to the American F-35 Lightning II shock fighter, together with the Jian-20 it forms a combination of high and low class fighters. Since Jian-31 uses dual front wheels for taking off and landing over short distances, these advantages were demonstrated during the debut flight. There is a high probability that this fighter will become the deck aircraft of the next generation aircraft carrier after the Jian-15.
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  1. +4
    10 November 2012 08: 18
    Jian is not jian ......., but in my opinion they still have crap ......
    And there are no good engines of their own and a bunch of other problems ......... So far, in the field of high military technologies, China will not do without Russia
    1. snek
      +1
      10 November 2012 08: 50
      Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
      And there are no good engines and a bunch of other problems.

      Well, they really haven't finished the engines yet, but what is included in the rest of the "heap of other problems"?
      1. +1
        10 November 2012 09: 43
        Armament, structural details of the airframe.
        1. snek
          0
          10 November 2012 11: 49
          Quote: Recon
          Armament, structural details of the airframe.

          And what are the problems with them?
          1. Diesel
            +1
            10 November 2012 12: 37
            Quote: snek
            airframe structural parts


            At least, the fact that this aircraft doesn’t even smell on stealth technology on this plane is done for the view (more precisely, it was copied laughing )
            The Chinese use Pakistani and our rockets air air p77 p27 p73
    2. 0
      10 November 2012 14: 18
      It’s just a habit of faulting a Chinese product. If I had been told about this 10 years ago, I would have agreed, I am surprised by a condescending attitude. Since 2008, China has taken up its economy very seriously. He has invested nearly a trillion dollars into the economy in the crisis. having studied in AMERICA in EUROPE, having worked at the enterprises of Western countries, returned home, They carry not only knowledge, but Western technical culture, China begins to be very attentive to scientific and R&D work, increases funding, Previously, we were not very flattering to our defense products , They learn damn fast, And the main thing is not to treat the space power like that, there are not so many of them already at a different level, and the space program is clear and the main thing is that it fulfills it to our shame,
      1. Trofimov174
        0
        12 November 2012 10: 34
        Not everything is not always justified by financing and comparing the number of zeros in budgets. Compare also Russia and Japan. It seems to be two completely differently developed countries (not in our favor). How much Japan spends on science and high technology and as a result has a huge market share in high-tech devices. But space cannot. Well, it’s more accurate, but the results and pace cannot be compared with the Russian ones, but their TVs are gorgeous. Therefore, everything has its own specifics.
  2. +1
    10 November 2012 08: 44
    8300 by 2 by 27 tons is not the most outstanding thrust-to-weight ratio with far from ideal aerodynamics, although the Chinese always have some kind of trump card in their bosom, from normal electronics to the experience of home smelting of iron in rural areas.
  3. +1
    10 November 2012 09: 48
    Well, the Chinese can’t do stealth fighters, because this cannot be determined by definition. These are Chinese products !!!!!!!!!!! and that’s it. There are confirmations from independent sources of what quality Su-fighters 27 which they illegally produce? In my opinion here I read a couple of years ago that they have fighters of the 2nd and 3rd generation (!!!!!!!!!!!), it’s still shit, and you say stealth. Yes, they have AK shit, this one is not a secret since Afghanistan, but here the aircraft industry is of the highest standard. And they also have problems with aircraft engines, and this is also known for a long time.
    1. +3
      10 November 2012 10: 27
      Well, the Chinese can’t do stealth fighters, because this cannot be by definition. These are Chinese products !!!!!!!!!!! and that’s it

      Unfortunately they can. China is not what it was 10 years ago. Already there are engineers who have received an excellent Western education, technology and equipment are also Western.
      You look at the Chinese-made high-tech products surrounding you. The same iPhone - it works without problems ...
      1. 0
        10 November 2012 10: 42
        As you know, they did not develop the iPhone, they just assemble. Who assembles, how and in what conditions they recently showed on TV, I will not talk about the build quality. For me, Chinese is by default bad, of poor quality, which can break at any time. `` stealth '' (like stealth), they stole something from us, something in Tan, but they CANNOT create their own, here we need a long-term school with its own traditions, which the Chinese do not yet have.
        1. +5
          10 November 2012 11: 07
          I have been working with the Chinese in the field of high technology for about 10 years. Previously, there was a complete scoop, over the past couple of years the situation has changed significantly. Who would have imagined that Japanese robots would appear on their assembly lines ...
          In the field of reverse engineering, they have no equal at all.

          As for the specialists, I already wrote: the number of graduate students of Chinese origin in Western universities is simply off scale. Most of them return to China to work for the "good of the communist homeland."
          1. Insurgent
            0
            10 November 2012 12: 03
            Well prier and from Russia they run where they pay
          2. 0
            10 November 2012 12: 17
            Quote: professor
            In the field of reverse engineering, they have no equal at all.

            No matter how much you write off from a classmate, you will still have Japanese robots.
            1. +1
              10 November 2012 13: 41
              No matter how much you write off from a classmate, you will still have Japanese robots.

              The USSR, too, was tearing everything that it could; starting from a missile program, an atomic bomb and not ending with long-range bombers. However, after learning to do better.

              Professor why unfortunately they are hard workers and good students

              Unfortunately, because no one needs a superpower with a population of 1.5 billion people. Hard workers they are only abroad, while China itself is out of the stick, communism spoiled them a little.
      2. Insurgent
        0
        10 November 2012 12: 04
        Professor why unfortunately they are hard workers and good students
      3. +1
        14 November 2012 22: 02
        The essence of the iPhone in software. but not in hardware. A Chinese (left) iPhone without apple software is an ordinary cheap smart.
        Although, I agree - their progress is strong. I first saw Chinese enterprises in 91m. Then our businesses. by comparison, they were "space". Now the picture has changed exactly the opposite. If the design and technology are clearly spelled out, they are capable of making a product no worse than in Europe. if they design and create technologies themselves, then there are still many problems. Products noticeably lag behind their Western counterparts. How is Zhvanetsky doing? "We took possession of the general view. Now we need not to skip the details" (c)
    2. +3
      10 November 2012 11: 01
      Quote: Volozhanin
      Well, the Chinese can’t do stealth fighters, because this cannot be determined by definition. These are Chinese products !!!!!!!!!!! and that’s it. There are confirmations from independent sources of what quality Su-fighters 27 which they illegally produce? In my opinion here I read a couple of years ago that they have fighters of the 2nd and 3rd generation (!!!!!!!!!!!), it’s still shit, and you say stealth.

      No offense, but this message seemed to come from the mid-nineties. Chinese products reaching the markets of developed countries are of very high quality; this is not the consumer goods to which we have been accustomed for 90 years. Well, as for fighters of 2-3 generations, it’s for nothing that you have very good materials on this site regarding the current state of PLA troops, I think you will find a lot of new things for yourself.
      China can be treated differently, you can even laugh at its efforts to reduce the technological gap from developed countries by all means by copying technologies around the world, but it is simply dangerous to underestimate it.
      1. 0
        10 November 2012 11: 26
        Quote: Engrim
        China can be treated differently, you can even laugh at its efforts to reduce the technological gap from developed countries by all means by copying technologies around the world, but it is simply dangerous to underestimate it.

        Quite right. Americans, at one time, also laughed at the Japanese car industry, read Arthur Haley "Wheels", now cry ...
  4. Insurgent
    +1
    10 November 2012 10: 10
    For such a weight, it is necessary from su-27 engines and not from mig-29
  5. Trofimov174
    0
    10 November 2012 10: 12
    There can be no talk of any Chinese fifth generation, so far, instead of bright minds and their own developments, they use carbon paper. Imagine if the PAK FA looked like this, it would be shame and shame for all of Russia.
    PS By the way, about our bird, does anyone know about the fate of the fourth prototype?
    1. Insurgent
      0
      10 November 2012 12: 02
      the Soviet Union also copied while lacking the proper level, for the instant-15 English engines were copied, but a lot of things
      1. Trofimov174
        0
        12 November 2012 10: 18
        The difference is that the USSR collected licensed (!) Copies and upgraded them to a level superior to the original. Can the same be said about this plane? No.
        1. +1
          12 November 2012 10: 22
          Tu-4 (product “P”, according to NATO codification: Bull - “Bull”) - a piston Soviet strategic bomber, was in service with the Air Force ADD of the USSR from 1949 to the beginning of the 1960-s. The aircraft is a copy of the American bomber B-29, reproduced by reverse engineering.

          There is no question of any license here.
  6. 0
    10 November 2012 11: 35
    It is not a matter of quality, but of quantity. In a battle, one super-duper plane of a probable opponent is against hundreds, or even more likely in the near future, not one hundred Chinese planes. Which side is victory on?
  7. 0
    10 November 2012 13: 53
    you need to think about this active neighbor, otherwise they’ll put on the crown and bear them again
  8. 0
    11 November 2012 01: 18
    I remember in the 70s our military instructor at the NVP lessons to a curved-arm student who was slowly assembling an AK, shouted- "... Balanya !!!! Faster !!! ... Some of that military leader remind ... And the East is a delicate matter ..