When returning to UAV positions, they often give out the location of operators and entire units

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When returning to UAV positions, they often give out the location of operators and entire units

In a war zone, returning to the positions from which it was launched, the UAV often gives the enemy the exact location of its calculation.

When returning to starting positions drones often help the enemy to open the positions of their operators. Aerial reconnaissance can detect an enemy UAV and trace its flight path to the very landing site.



After the position of the copter operators is opened, an artillery strike is immediately applied to it. The well-coordinated work of aerial reconnaissance and gunners gives impressive performance indicators.

The other day, our fighters, after tracking the entire flight route of the enemy drone, launched an artillery strike on the position of the operator, inflicting a fire defeat on the unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.



But you need to understand that this, as they say, is a double-edged weapon. Return drones can also reveal our positions, which must be taken into account when preparing operators.

The command of the RF Armed Forces is faced with the task of uniting the reconnaissance and strike-reconnaissance UAVs in service into a single integrated network, within which the information received will be transmitted not only directly to the operators, but also to the command post. Information received from satellites will also be transmitted there. All data is supposed to be processed electronically, and then transferred to a map updated in real time.

Thus, the command will be able to quickly assess the situation on the battlefield and make decisions about attacking or strengthening defenses in places where there is an opportunity or need for such actions.
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  1. +1
    27 December 2022 16: 11
    The command of the RF Armed Forces is faced with the task of uniting the reconnaissance and strike-reconnaissance UAVs in service into a single integrated network,
    "Constellation"...
    1. +15
      27 December 2022 17: 00
      "The other day, our fighters, after tracking the entire route of the enemy drone's flight, launched an artillery strike on the position of the operator, inflicting a fire defeat on the unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine."
      ************************************************** ****************************************
      I'm happy for the Russian fighters...

      But I believe that such successful tactics of our troops, DURING the conduct of hostilities, must be kept silent "to the stop." And it’s not joyful to crackle in the mainstream media ....
      1. +2
        27 December 2022 17: 16
        This is an obvious thing. The algorithm for returning DJI drones is fairly standard.
        1. +2
          27 December 2022 17: 24
          This is clear...

          However, far from all and not always, they practically “roll” to this quickly enough ... And there is no reason to force this process of “recognizing opportunities” for the enemy ...
        2. +5
          27 December 2022 18: 23
          Quote: Alexander Grigoriev_2
          This is an obvious thing. The algorithm for returning DJI drones is fairly standard.

          Until you install the Litchi program for these drones, in which you can program the mission of any flight and return to the base or any other point, at any speeds and altitudes, to your heart's content. And this is done literally on the knee.
          1. 0
            27 December 2022 18: 56
            Quote: kventinasd

            Until you install the Litchi program for these drones, in which you can program the mission of any flight and return to the base or any other point, at any speeds and altitudes, to your heart's content. And this is done literally on the knee.

            Why don't they even try to camouflage them?
      2. -1
        27 December 2022 17: 19
        yes, the current and the enemy did this, there is no secret in this, and the satellites work for the enemy 900 pieces
      3. 0
        27 December 2022 18: 50
        Quote: ABC-schütze
        you have to keep quiet "to the point"

        No one canceled the misinformation. The RTR and EW complexes also need to be covered somehow.
      4. +4
        27 December 2022 21: 02
        Did you just wake up today? Have you heard of aeroscopes? An unflashed mavic transmits the coordinates of its takeoff and landing to the aeroscope, at first it often happened that by the time the drone approached the landing point, a howitzer had already been pointed somewhere and was waiting for the operator to appear. Lobaev specifically offers everyone to reflash drones with him for free so that this does not happen.
  2. +1
    27 December 2022 16: 11
    The UAV operator turns into a UAV pilot.
    1. +1
      27 December 2022 16: 33
      Whose catapult did not work.
  3. 0
    27 December 2022 16: 16
    They used to confuse tracks from dogs, now copters.
  4. +19
    27 December 2022 16: 21
    In general, such moments are included in the training program. And if the operator is not a fool, then he will not launch the drone from the center of the unit. Like the ATGM operator, he will not sit in an embrace with the launcher. It's just that if the drone is not military, then it is more difficult to launch it remotely. But still, these are the basics of tactical training.
    Well, this video does not show anything. 10 seconds of drone flight. Then smoke on the horizon -20 sec. So where is the promised landing? At least one person near the drone? Propagandists are you posting THIS out of laziness?
    1. +1
      27 December 2022 16: 34
      Quote: Single-n
      And if the operator is not a fool, then he will not launch the drone from the center of the unit.

      This does not apply to the operator, but to the unit commander. He sets tasks and assigns positions to subordinates.
      1. +3
        27 December 2022 16: 47
        The commander does not have to explain to the soldier every time how to dig a trench or how to shoot. The operator should at least tell the boss that he needs a remote site for launching and receiving the UAV. Enough commanders to look into the mouth on every occasion. Why your head? And the commanders will have enough of the cost of "the chain I'm the boss, you." This doesn't work here. and literally "fly" for stupidity.
        1. +3
          28 December 2022 02: 13
          Quote: Single-n
          The commander does not have to explain to the soldier every time how to dig a trench or how to shoot.

          It's great that you're not the commander.
          Not how to dig, but where to dig, indicate the sector of fire, set landmarks, when attacking the enemy, designate the line from which the unit opens fire and in what order.
          Now there is a lot of things on the net, you type the Combat Charter in the search engine and read it.
          Good luck with your self study.
        2. +3
          28 December 2022 02: 18
          I thought it couldn't be more stupid. It turned out to be possible. You have been given the right advice. Read the combat regulations.
          So that they don’t come up with a new belebird, here’s a link for you http://militera.lib.ru/regulations/0/g/2005_bu3.pdf
        3. -2
          28 December 2022 13: 22
          here the key difficulty is that we have not yet fully developed the training scheme for UAV operators.
  5. +9
    27 December 2022 16: 24
    The copter is following the copter.
    And no one is looking after him?
  6. +4
    27 December 2022 16: 26
    Are the creators of the video really sure that the sound sequence superimposed on the video is organic and generally appropriate. This sound of iron on glass, frankly makes it difficult to understand something on the video, and indeed, in itself is too "beautiful" to be worthy of someone's ears, except for the "composer".
  7. -1
    27 December 2022 16: 27
    After the position of the copter operators is opened, an artillery strike is immediately applied to it. The well-coordinated work of aerial reconnaissance and gunners gives impressive performance indicators.
    . Operational transmission of information, perhaps data, is an important part of the combat process in modern warfare !!!
  8. 0
    27 December 2022 16: 31
    I don’t know when we will have enough satellite constellation for continuous tracking
    1. +2
      27 December 2022 16: 48
      It's hard to say...Americans throw off data Svidomo with a discreteness of 1 hour. And in the interval between communication sessions with the spacecraft, UAVs should operate. By the way, they are cheaper and more efficient than KA. And with the advent of video reconnaissance UAVs with 200x televisions, the question of a space r-ke in a separate section of the theater, in my opinion, disappears by itself (like eggs from a food tax!)
      Yes
      1. +2
        27 December 2022 17: 03
        And with the advent of video reconnaissance UAVs with 200x televisions, the question of a space r-ke in a separate section of the theater, in my opinion, disappears by itself

        I think you wrote an extra zero
    2. -1
      27 December 2022 17: 38
      Never. It is neither technically nor financially possible.
      1. 0
        27 December 2022 18: 54
        In fact, with good optics, a small number of satellites in high orbits will be enough to cover the entire planet. But I do not know how much detailed information they will send. To transmit not strategic, but also tactical information, satellites are needed in low orbits, probably.
      2. +1
        27 December 2022 21: 37
        Quote: Alexander Grigoriev_2
        Never. It is neither technically nor financially possible.

        Come on. Everything is possible both in terms of money and technically, especially if you do not store money in foreign countries, where our enemies stupidly arrest them for 300 billion dollars. It is necessary to invest in the country and in technology, and not in support of pants for someone else's uncle.
  9. 0
    27 December 2022 16: 38
    If I don’t confuse anything, the coordinates of the UAV control points should, with a bang, be determined by electronic intelligence ... sad
    Where is it all? request
    1. +3
      27 December 2022 16: 47
      the coordinates of the UAV control points should, with a bang, be determined by electronic intelligence

      storytellers, I wanted to say experts, they said that this is how everything has been going on in our country for the past ten years, but unfortunately this summer storytellers, I wanted to say experts, moved to another job, to the economic department - they talk about the deindustrialization of Europe and high inflation in America ...
    2. +2
      27 December 2022 17: 40
      On exhibitions rides in single copies ....
  10. +1
    27 December 2022 16: 49
    Our gap in the field of large UAVs from the leading countries is approximately 25-30 years.
    Just look at the "Global Hauch", at its characteristics, and it immediately becomes clear
    what level is the lag.
    In the case of this American, his operators are either in Italy, or in Cyprus, or
    on the continental United States.
    Communication is via satellite.
    1. -2
      27 December 2022 17: 27
      and crashes in one or two. but try to demolish this jihal-moped with a rocket .... In 2012, the cost of a unit is estimated at 140 million dollars In 2014, the cost of the flight was reduced to 24 thousand Maximum speed 837 km / h Ceiling 19811 m. even with -300 = Aircraft destruction zone , in height, km, 0t 0,010 to 27 km, Probability of destroying aircraft = 0,9
    2. 0
      27 December 2022 17: 44
      And how long will the global hawk live in a real conflict?
      Now you can’t touch it ... but it could be ... they wouldn’t be there anymore
      He’s not dill and not invisible, but ... you can’t shoot him down

      The cost of a global hawk ... like a few of their f-35s ... and where they sit is not so important ... the hawk has fallen ... reconnaissance is over)
      1. 0
        28 December 2022 00: 22
        Live as long as necessary. More precisely, he will have nothing.
        Simply because it will leave the danger zone in advance.
        An example is that the Global Hawk, together with the E-8, flew directly over
        zone of demarcation in the Donbass and further to the border with Belarus.
        They flew for many years, including February 21 and 22.
        And on February 23 they disappeared from the airspace of Ukraine.
        But the amount of information they have collected about Russian troops on the border
        was huge.
        All this was leaked to the Ukrainian headquarters.

        And yes, we essentially don’t have reconnaissance aircraft at all today. None.
        A dozen or two Su-24Ms, which are under 40 years old and that's it.
  11. for
    +2
    27 December 2022 17: 54
    The drone operator sits on a stump next to the command and the rest of the unit and waits for the return of the drone.
  12. +1
    27 December 2022 17: 57
    IMHO, noodles.
    If only "it often gives out" - then they would definitely boast in 10 months.
    And this is the first time...

    Well, only the lazy one has not been talking about the network and the swarm of UAVs for 2 years already ...
  13. 0
    28 December 2022 13: 25
    There are three options for countermeasures. Equip start-landing on armored vehicles, hiding personnel and valuable equipment under armor. Land elsewhere. The third is to use disposable kamikaze drones. The third option is preferable and provides a number of additional features... In the future, most drones will be disposable.
    1. 0
      28 December 2022 21: 55
      Will not be disposable. Everything will be more expensive and more and more fancy.
  14. 0
    28 December 2022 14: 24
    It’s a no brainer that you can’t launch a quadric from a location. Radio elementary direction finding. And where he flies is often visible. Life hack - run not from a location. When you pick it up yourself for relief, you put it on a cardboard box with a 20-meter rope tied, then you drag it. If you get hammered at the landing site, you will only lose the quadra and not dismantle
    Pysy: drone pilots and military personnel know even in civilian life that the place of takeoff and landing should not be the same. In civilian life, a bobbik will come and take away the quadric if you fly high and far, and they will also solder a fine. At war, just a mine will fly
  15. +1
    28 December 2022 21: 53
    White copter on the background of black earth? Easily traceable. Above you need camouflage, below - light blue. You need to learn from attack aircraft! wink
  16. 0
    29 December 2022 15: 06
    It is necessary to teach operators to maneuver "avoiding the tail").