The Kalashnikov Concern is carefully studying the experience of using microwave sniper rifles and PPK-20 submachine guns in the NMD zone

Concern "Kalashnikov" has established feedback with military personnel participating in the SVO and using new developments of gunsmiths, the concern is very carefully studying reviews about weapons. This was announced by the president of the group of companies Alan Lushnikov.

To date, Kalashnikov has sent Chukavin sniper rifles (SVCh) to the NVO zone, they have entered service with sniper groups. Snipers using these rifles prepare reports on their use, and they are carefully studied in the concern. Another weapon that has already been delivered to the military in the special operation zone is the Kalashnikov PPK-20 submachine gun.

We constantly receive feedback from our military who take part in the SVO (...) based on feedback on combat use, we constantly make changes to our products (...) the Chukavin sniper rifle (SHF) and the Kalashnikov submachine gun (PPK -20), feedback is also carefully studied and taken into account

Lushnikov said.

As an example of feedback from the military, the head of the concern cited work on the AK-12 assault rifle, which is currently the main small arms of the Russian army. Today's AK-12 is fundamentally different from the one that went into service in 2018. Thanks to feedback from the military, the gunsmiths managed to correct all the flaws and design flaws. The same was true with drones.

The PPK-20 submachine gun was developed as part of the development work (R&D) of the Vityaz-MO based on the Vityaz-SN, which has been mass-produced since 2005, taking into account the comments and shortcomings identified during its operation. Total length - 600-660 mm, weight without ammunition - 2,7 kg, barrel length 182 mm, cartridge - 9x19 Luger, magazine capacity - 30 rounds.

The Chukavin sniper rifle (SVCh) was developed on the instructions of the Ministry of Defense to replace the already obsolete Dragunov sniper rifle (SVD). The rifle was originally implemented in three calibers - 7,62x54R, 7,62x51 NATO (also known as .308 Win), and .338 Lapua Magnum (8,6x70 mm). At the same time, in caliber 7,62x54R, the microwave rifle is fully compatible with magazines from the SVD sniper rifle. The length of the microwave, depending on the version, is from 995 to 1015 millimeters, and the weight is 4,2 kilograms with an empty magazine and an optical sight installed. The weapon is equipped with a barrel length of 410 millimeters. The microwave has an effective firing range of 1200 meters.

Comments

[Konnick]

PPK-20. Total length - 600-660 mm, weight without ammunition - 2,7 kg, barrel length 182 mm, cartridge - 9x19 Luger, magazine capacity - 30 rounds.

What to study? In the Great Patriotic War, they checked the Shpagin submachine gun, 840 mm long, weight without ammunition 3,6 kg, barrel length 270 mm, cartridge 7,62x25, magazine capacity 71 or 35 rounds and most importantly with an effective range of up to 500 meters.

[Uncle lee]

Which is also good! And they created a teaching staff in besieged Leningrad!

[Askold65]

Quote: Konnick

and most importantly with an effective range of up to 500 meters.

A submachine gun with a pistol cartridge is designed to operate at a range of no more than 100 m. What can we say about PP, if the actual range of hitting targets in AK in combat conditions is not higher than 150 -200 meters.

[NAP]

Release this poor PPSh already. Some people love to build all sorts of junk over new weapons.

[Barberry25]

ideally, send a microwave-338 with cartridges there. there will be no special sense from a microwave at 7,62, at 54 there will be no sense

[Mitchman]

It would be nice for downs with stripes to also establish feedback from the front line

[Murmur 55]

Feedback is a good thing, if only there was some sense in that. And then they will listen and do their own thing.

[Vladimir Mikhalev]

Even in the AK-12M1 today, the guys write a lot of flaws. Let's look at their next modifications.

[Barberry25]

these are not flaws - these are people who did not hold the machine in their hands and describe their Wishlist / whistles in fact

[Vladimir Mikhalev]

They write an automatic machine for athletes, but not for a simple fighter. For starters, a non-removable flame arrester. And that means soot. Well, the sight is in 2nd place. Many disputes, including with breeders.

[Barberry25]

1) about athletes, this is due to the presence of a diopter sight there, which is already on the AK-12 and it is also on most NATO rifles, not to mention the fact that there are three diopters, including 200 meters 4,5 mm , 2) if the DTK is non-removable and is made as a single part of the barrel, then there will be no soot since it is a monolithic part. In fact, now, like with any news, no one has seen anything, no one knows anything, but they have already shared their opinion.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Vladimir Mikhalev

For starters, a non-removable flame arrester. And that means soot.

The flame arrester is disassembled (it can be cleaned), and on the part that remains on the barrel, you can wind both a non-standard flame arrester and a silencer.

[-Dmitry-]

Even in the AK-12M1 today, the guys write a lot of flaws. Let's look at their next modifications.

Where are the firewood from?? I only saw a review on the AK-12SP (which was called AK-12M in the video). There are hardly any real user reviews on the M1.

[Barberry25]

as an example, a comparison of two generations of ak-12

[dementor873]

Diopter - when crawling in a plastunsky manner, it is clogged with earth, when it rains, it is drawn in by a water drop. Therefore, you must always carry a picking stick with you, otherwise you will not see luck.

Layout - the legs would be torn out of the ass by the author of this design decision, but I will be consistent.
In the forearm of the machine there is a three-piece ramrod, and other cleaning accessories (rubbing, brush, screwdriver and punch) are in the pistol grip.
To remove the forearm, you need to turn the machine over, see a tiny technological hole, insert a punch into it, press hard - from which the internal spring in the form of a plate is pressed, releasing the cotter pin - and squeeze it out with your finger to the left or right. Then remove the forearm.
It seems nothing complicated for a person with a higher education, BUT!
But if the cotter pin is hammered inward without pressing the spring plate with a punch, then the barrel will not be disassembled.
The whole company faced this, since the people who completed the trunks with disassembled ramrods from spare parts did it in their free time (read at night), using brute force, and not precise knowledge of assembly and disassembly.
For those who did not understand - the whole company could not dismantle the machines for maintenance.
As a result, I had to use even more brute force in the form of a hammer and a bolt from an army stool - to knock out a cotter pin like a rivet.

The machine gun shoots quite accurately, but after maintenance in the field, it is necessary to "grind" the shutter, because otherwise it would become "bolt lag" after every two or three shots.

One morning, the bolt from the extreme forward position refused to move to the extreme rear - and I had to put the machine gun on the butt and show him well with the heel of his boot who was the boss in the house. At the same time, the day before, he was lovingly cleaned and oiled.

The "muzzle" has a thin ring, located unevenly in diameter, as a result, carbon accumulates between it and the muzzle, which is very difficult to clean out.
The machine gets very hot even after shooting just one magazine.
Reviews.
don’t even think about shooting in pairs, you’ll hesitate to wedge)) I only shoot in bursts and occasionally single shots, the pairs wedge, the translators bend-squeeze, it’s very tight, you can’t make out the assembly without a tool from the pencil case, in general, it’s purely the opinion of the sea and those whom I know, well, it’s such an automatic machine))) it collects all the sand in itself like a shovel.
On lostarm there is a discussion thread about him. In short, the verdict is crap. With an 18 year revision, which is later with modifications. Still need to cut and cut.

[Fat]

I don't trust private companies. Much more often they are just PR than they give real results. An example is the "successes" of the Apple I and Apple II from Wozniak and Jobs)))) Sitting in the garage and waving like "it doesn't get any cooler" helps, but not always. The "Kalashnikov Concern" is very reminiscent of a steamship in which all the steam goes into the whistle in the "image", if more modern.
Thirst - All)))))))

[fiv]

So, therefore, are you satisfied with the new weapons at the front? That's good, well done gunsmiths!

[23424636]

military commissar and blogger Vladlen Tatarsky, who has sufficient combat experience, called the AK-12 crap .. A private shop at a large arms enterprise is nonsense. Lushnikov is a creature of Dvorkovich, and his wife is Dagestan .. What is Dvorkovich is clear to everyone.

[air wolf]

Removing the remnants of the SVD from the warehouses will solve the issue of working up to 1000 meters and you need two of them per squad, a Pecheneg machine gun and fighters with AK-15 or AKM with flies, it will be more efficient!

[fiberboard]

Why is Pecheneg not suitable for the PKK? PKM is needed as a platoon machine gun, or in a company machine gun platoon. You just need to enter the third number into the RMB calculation. SVD is still a sniper weapon. It would be better to work with SKS and cartridges. I saw a man from the SCS with 700 meters flunked a goat. Grandfather fell one meters from 300-400 wolves, did not come closer.

[Konnick]

The compartment must contain weapons for one cartridge size. Read about RPK-16. With a long barrel, accuracy at 600 meters is better than that of the SVD, it is a universal squad weapon, with a short barrel, an automatic rifle, with optics and a long barrel of a sniper. Well, a light machine gun with a bipod.

[Barberry25]

conventional SVDs work poorly at 1 meters, especially with old sights, they have a normal battle of 000-400 meters .. Now it makes sense to increase the supply of rifles of 600-8,6 caliber with powerful optics and thermal imagers

[Architect]

After all, the shooter is secondary in the NWO, why invest money in it?
For a mass army, the former small arms are also sufficient.
The basis is high-precision art / rocket weapons, but by no means machine guns.
What is behind the eyes.