Biden: Providing Kyiv with new types of weapons could split NATO, the EU and the whole world

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Biden: Providing Kyiv with new types of weapons could split NATO, the EU and the whole world

The first trip abroad by President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky after the start of the special operation, not just anywhere, but to the main sponsor and patron - the United States - turned out to be very pompous, but, apparently, not entirely successful for Kyiv. Zelensky persistently begged Biden, and then American congressmen, not just for new tranches of military aid, but for a modern offensive weapon, such as long-range missiles, Tanks and airplanes. But judging by Biden's statements after negotiations with his Ukrainian counterpart, the White House decided to postpone this.

Speaking at a joint press conference following talks with Zelensky, Biden said that after consultations with NATO members, Washington had decided not to provide modern offensive weapons to Ukraine. To the traditional fears that this could draw the alliance into direct conflict with Russia, a new one has been added. The United States fears that such supplies could split the already not quite consolidated relations between the countries of the North Atlantic bloc.



The idea that we will provide Ukraine with materials that are fundamentally different from those that are already coming there will have the prospect of the collapse of NATO and the collapse of the European Union and the rest of the world

Biden explained the position of the American leadership.

It is learned that Zelensky is returning to Kyiv, albeit not completely empty-handed, since Washington seems to be transferring the long-awaited Patriot air defense systems to Ukraine, but also not completely satisfied. According to some reports, the Ukrainian president, after leaving the States, may visit London, Paris or Berlin. His goals will be the same, but the result may turn out to be even more incomplete than after negotiations with Biden.
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  1. -4
    December 22 2022
    Oh, already clever thoughts began to reach Biden.
    1. +3
      December 22 2022
      Rather, to those who surround him and slip prompter texts for voicing.
    2. +3
      December 22 2022
      In principle, we are talking only about the refusal to supply missiles with a range of more than 300 km.
    3. 0
      December 22 2022
      smart thoughts began to reach Biden

      About Biden's grandfather, you think too well of him. Grandfather has been in the other world for a long time, from where he is periodically pulled out to voice the plans of the devil, which the devils whisper to him in hell ...
      1. -1
        December 22 2022
        So there, already through Biden, they announced that Zele did not have long to walk and that he could die heroically for Krayna. If I were in Zely's place, oh, how tense I would be after such a passage.
        1. 0
          December 22 2022
          And why strain!?... The devils have been going to him for a long time and inviting him to their place. Now it remains only to gather and go hand in hand with them.
  2. +2
    December 22 2022
    Yes, everything will come to this. By the summer of next year .. They are quietly preparing pilots on the F16, the Germans have already adjusted modern self-propelled guns. They will succeed with long-range missiles for sure if we manage to advance the front to the west
    1. +4
      December 22 2022
      It is clear that the game has gone on "long", in the winter the Greeks will supply the S-300, in the spring there will be German Leopard and BMP Marder, then NATO aircraft or F-16.
      1. 0
        December 26 2022
        in winter, the Greeks will supply the S-300

        With all the desire, they won’t have time, in two months the Americans must deliver something in return. No matter how much they want, they will not deliver anything without a replacement. On the one hand, Ertogan, on the other hand, elections. So, either the Americans for the remaining 2 months should throw something to Greece, and even something that would cover all the minuses, or the delivery will not be made.
  3. 0
    December 22 2022
    Of course they will supply, but perhaps in smaller quantities, from a military point of view, this will not help Ukraine, yes, these weapons and they will kill, but they will also fail, and the US reserves are not unlimited, even if they provide missile weapons up to 300 km, I think Russia has something to answer for the cities of Ukraine where civilians live, it’s just that the clash will go on a new round without discounts for civilians, everyone will equalize. From yesterday’s speech of the Supreme Commander, it is clear that he will not retreat, and there will be no Ukraine in its current form, it seems that the White House understands, otherwise why Volodya was invited to the carpet, they could have been rubbed over the phone.
  4. -4
    December 22 2022
    And what will be the comment of Sergei Viktorovich Lavrov on the actions of his overseas "partners"? I really want to see how in the Kremlin once again "But we will frown severely if the enemy wants to break us ..." (words from "Song of the Motherland" from the movie "Circus" 1936).
  5. +1
    December 22 2022
    Hasho been escorted out so quickly? How about visiting the White House?
    1. -1
      December 22 2022
      Quote: geologist
      How about visiting the White House?

      And to other "friends" in time? To beg for a gift under the Christmas tree. And there the New Year, and then according to the old style ... Let him run around Europe. It is not available in Ukraine, but we have light.
      1. +2
        December 22 2022
        Let him run around Europe. It is not available in Ukraine, but we have light.
        Yes, we already understood this from the forum that you have light.
    2. 0
      December 22 2022
      How about visiting the White House?
      Zelya was embarrassed to enter the Oral Office, he felt backwards that it was unclean laughing - so they kicked him out.
    3. 0
      December 22 2022
      Quote: geologist
      Hasho been escorted out so quickly? How about visiting the White House?
      Do not have the time. He also has an important meeting with a representative of the Colombian drug cartel.
  6. The idea that we will provide Ukraine with materials that are fundamentally different from those that are already coming there will have the prospect of the collapse of NATO and the collapse of the European Union and the rest of the world

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    - A very complex sentence for Biden, obviously he didn’t come up with it himself ...


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  7. +2
    December 22 2022
    Until we hit Zheshev, they will not realize that the limit has been reached.
  8. -2
    December 22 2022

    Biden: Providing Kyiv with new types of weapons could split NATO, the EU and the whole world
    Yes, deliveries can split the whole world. The fault line will pass through the territory of the United States. The Strait "Stalin's Name" is called.
  9. +1
    December 22 2022
    The idea that we will provide Ukraine with materials that are fundamentally different from those that are already coming there will have the prospect of the collapse of NATO and the collapse of the European Union and the rest of the world
    Come on ... recently gay Europeans squealed that the actions of Russia and China are splitting NATO! Why are they not squealing now? The owner says yes, it seems.
  10. 0
    December 22 2022
    His goals will be the same, but the result may turn out to be even more incomplete than after negotiations with Biden.


    There is only one goal - this is the Ze plane!
  11. 0
    December 22 2022
    the time will come and they will give missiles 300 + km! it's all a matter of time
  12. -2
    December 22 2022
    They’re doing the right thing, in May the Poles will take away the Poles from 404 for debts to NATO, and they will quickly put a modern one there, but so far no one has canceled the order to exterminate the pig-faced, so go on and do your job, the new lands should not be pig-faced.
  13. +1
    December 22 2022
    It is interesting that Kyiv receives air defense systems on credit, for example (German Iris-T), which the Germans themselves have few, and the Poles or Czechs are not even expected. Ukraine is better equipped than Germany for some types of weapons
  14. 0
    December 22 2022
    after consultations with NATO members in Washington, they decided not to provide modern offensive weapons to Ukraine.
    Suddenly they became concerned that some "allies" in NATO might be deeply offended by the dismissive attitude towards their combat capability against the backdrop of assistance to Ukraine. So it seems like everyone is "united front, in solidarity" ready to fight against Russia with Ukrainian hands, and some even take off their last pants for the sake of such a "righteous" cause. And it turns out in words one thing, but in reality it is completely different.
    Ukrainian president, after leaving the States, can visit London, Paris or Berlin
    A demonstrative challenge-voyage - here I am (Zelensky), how brave, indestructible, when I want to be able to visit not only the United States, but also European capitals without even changing my T-shirt (longsleeve).
  15. 0
    December 22 2022
    after leaving the States, he can visit London, Paris or Berlin. The goals will be the same

    Previously, the beggars asked for alms for porches, for food, now the "beggars" are begging for alms on the thresholds of the White House and Downingstreet, for bread, another billion bucks.
  16. +1
    December 22 2022
    Svet se zblaznil! Místo podpory míru, se podporuje válka.., a ještě tomu vedená Banderou a fašisty.

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