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Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine: Kyiv will inflict a defeat on the Russian Federation that can lead it to a “deep transformation”

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Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine: Kyiv will inflict a defeat on the Russian Federation that can lead it to a “deep transformation”

Kyiv will allegedly inflict a defeat on the Russian Federation that could lead it to a “deep transformation”. In this way, she will change the likely scenario for the future, which is painted in gloomy colors in Kyiv.

In this vein, Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council (NSDC) of Ukraine Oleksiy Danilov wrote another post on his page on the social network.

If the world does not draw the right conclusions, the Ukrainian war of independence will be the prologue to the Great War

- this is how he describes the possible development of events, which Kyiv, under certain conditions, according to the official, could change.

Therefore, he calls on the world community to closely monitor the course of hostilities in Ukraine and take them more seriously before they escalate into an armed conflict on a global scale.

Prior to this, Danilov had repeatedly threatened Russia that Kyiv would strike at its territory when it received long-range missiles from its Western allies. This politician and statesman, representing the Kyiv regime, has previously talked a lot and often about long-range missiles. He claimed that weapon, capable of delivering strikes at a distance of up to 800 kilometers, can help Kyiv solve all the problems it faces. Therefore, the West, according to Danilov, should provide the Ukrainian military with such missiles as soon as possible.
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  1. voice of reason
    voice of reason 16 December 2022 21: 15
    +9
    This is already an episode of a global war. Russia is not at war with the former Ukraine. Russia is fighting against all of NATO. And so far it's been successful.
    1. Orange Bigg
      Orange Bigg 16 December 2022 21: 27
      +17
      The key word is yet. An arms race begins. Who will have a stronger military-industrial complex. hit first. Knock out ammunition depots.

      Zaluzhny actually admitted the loss of almost 300 UAF soldiers. “There are enough armed people in Ukraine — more than 700 in uniform, in one form or another, of which more than 000 are trained to fight,” he said. Meanwhile, back in the summer, Zelensky boasted that he had gathered a million-strong army. Nevertheless, the ataman general bluntly said that he was gathering strength for a strike: “Let the soldiers in the trenches forgive me. Now it is more important to focus on accumulating resources for more protracted and difficult battles that can begin next year. "Well, in order for the Armed Forces of Ukraine to fight, it seems to him, they need another 200 tanks, 000-300 BMPs [infantry fighting vehicles] and 600 howitzers , of course, with a huge supply of ammunition. The Yankees promised that the Armed Forces of Ukraine would have everything, they say, now they are closely dealing with this issue. Also, the Pentagonists will hand over (and may have already handed over) missiles for the Hymars with a range of up to 700 km to hit Russian warehouses and headquarters 500 km from the front line. But a massive raid will be carried out right before the offensive. Hence the dispersal of the false message that the Americans do not supply long-range precision-guided munitions for their MLRS. The Yankees lie as they breathe. And they are also looking for targets from satellites.



      On December 6, the US Congress instructed the Pentagon to purchase 864 155-mm artillery shells for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, more than 12 GPS-guided Excalibur shells and 106 GPS-guided GMLRS missiles for the Hymars, which, according to Zaluzhny, should be enough for the most powerful shelling of Russian soldiers for five months, and without stopping. The fact that the Yankees said that the deliveries would stretch for several years is also nonsense, Zaluzny hints.


      https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/355758/
      1. alekseykabanets
        alekseykabanets 16 December 2022 21: 39
        0
        Quote from Orange Bigg
        Who will have the stronger military-industrial complex.

        Whose industry will be more developed. And here we are...
        1. Orange Bigg
          Orange Bigg 16 December 2022 21: 49
          +12
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Quote from Orange Bigg
          Who will have the stronger military-industrial complex.

          Whose industry will be more developed. And here we are...


          Well then, we’ll crap all the ways of delivering these weapons. And we are still embarrassed, we all play noble gentlemen, it’s not clear just before whom and for what. Already, they are preparing a tribunal and recognized them as terrorists. And they are openly waiting for deep transformations of our state after a possible defeat. And all because of our gentleness and strange nobility. They realized that they could crush us, so they began to prepare. This is how we set ourselves up with the help of gestures of goodwill. They pushed everything to the limit. We lack toughness and decisiveness. We are somehow relaxed. We left Serpentine, opened Odessa through which weapons went, which became the prologue of our defeats. We are either our own enemies or we don’t know how to think from the word at all. and digging with strange solutions. Some kind of Gorbachevism is impossible, these are not our methods, but they screw everything up and everyone doesn’t care. We need to cut the energy sector in Ukraine to zero. It’s not too late. Cut without waiting for peritonitis. Then it will be too late.
          1. alekseykabanets
            alekseykabanets 16 December 2022 22: 17
            -3
            Quote from Orange Bigg
            Well then, we’ll trash all the ways of delivering these weapons. And we are all shy, we are all playing

            I completely agree with you, and we all play with transformers.
            1. Orange Bigg
              Orange Bigg 16 December 2022 22: 20
              +1
              If only with transformers. The grain deal is worth it! They opened the port of Odessa for the mass supply of weapons to Ukraine! So Kherson appeared as a result of that decision. So you can’t win the NWO.
              1. alekseykabanets
                alekseykabanets 16 December 2022 22: 39
                -6
                Quote from Orange Bigg
                ...So NWO won't win.

                So the country p_r_o_s_r_a_t_b!
              2. Ivan Ivanov
                Ivan Ivanov 16 December 2022 22: 40
                +1
                Yes, with our regroupings and gestures of goodwill, we ourselves warmed up their greyhound
              3. Mihail0221
                Mihail0221 16 December 2022 23: 05
                +7
                The grain deal is worth it!
                what is it worth? The fact that we can trade through the Black Sea, that it was opened to us, that we do not carry goods through the Far East (as it was for a certain period of time), that the economy is still holding on ... and deliveries went without the port of Odessa.
                1. Vladimir100
                  Vladimir100 17 December 2022 03: 12
                  0
                  If the Turks are removed from the Bosphorus, there is no way yet. Why not connect the Black Sea with the Baltic full-fledged shipping route, which will allow ships and submarines of any displacement to pass.
                2. alekseykabanets
                  alekseykabanets 17 December 2022 07: 10
                  -3
                  Quote: Michael0221
                  The fact that we can trade through the Black Sea, that it was opened to us,

                  And what was it closed? It's good to hang noodles on your ears.
                  1. Xnumx vis
                    Xnumx vis 17 December 2022 08: 36
                    +1
                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    Quote: Michael0221
                    The fact that we can trade through the Black Sea, that it was opened to us,

                    And what was it closed? It's good to hang noodles on your ears.

                    And you try to enter the Black Sea 1 Neither our nor American warships can enter the Black Sea ... Now Mercury is ready with decent air defense and anti-aircraft defense ... The latest corvette ... Which is needed right now in the theater of operations in Black Sea ... Will he be able to arrive at the home port of Sevastopol? I'm not sure ...
                    1. alekseykabanets
                      alekseykabanets 17 December 2022 08: 40
                      -3
                      Quote: 30 vis
                      And you try to enter the Black Sea 1 Neither our nor American warships can enter the Black Sea ...

                      And how does what you wrote resonate with the grain deal? That warships can be brought into the Black Sea as part of a grain deal?
                      1. Xnumx vis
                        Xnumx vis 17 December 2022 16: 49
                        -1
                        The Black Sea, that it was opened to us,

                        "And why was it closed? It's good to hang noodles on your ears." -- Your quote ? Your .. So what was it about dear?
                      2. alekseykabanets
                        alekseykabanets 17 December 2022 16: 55
                        -1
                        Quote: 30 vis
                        The Black Sea, that it was opened to us,

                        "And why was it closed? It's good to hang noodles on your ears." -- Your quote ? Your .. So what was it about dear?

                        Dear you, my man, if you are trying to comment on something, then read carefully and from the beginning.
                        Quote: Michael0221
                        The grain deal is worth it!
                        what is it worth? The fact that we can trade through the Black Sea, that it was opened to us, that we do not carry goods through the Far East (as it was for a certain period of time), that the economy is still holding on ... and deliveries went without the port of Odessa.

                        And what about warships?
              4. bayard
                bayard 16 December 2022 23: 50
                -6
                Quote from Orange Bigg
                .We are either our own enemies or we don’t know how to think from the word at all.

                Behind the "stupidity" at this level of management, treason is more often hidden.
                Quote from Orange Bigg
                Gorbachevism is something

                yes And "Nikolaevshchina" - they built "a state like under Nikola-2", and they built it.
                Quote from Orange Bigg
                It is necessary to cut down the energy sector in Ukraine to zero

                Oh, it’s just with pleasure and joy, and the CD has something to spend on. But to fill up bridges across the Dnieper ... no way. No. And through the tunnels in the Carpathians - no way. No. According to the government quarter in Kyiv - boseupasi, myzhenebarbarians.
                But over and over again to destroy the most secure energy system (thanks to galoshes) on the territory of the former USSR, dooming the civilian population in the WINTER to ... what?
                It's civil.
                For the army is just at the generators, and will not freeze.
                And what about the consumption of ammunition? fellow yes bully Yes, not simple ... ammunition then. wink So you can "fight" for a long time.
                If victory is not needed. request feel
                We need a war.
                Just a war.
                That's why "Caliber" and "Geraniums" fly through transformers.
                And the petty drug addict clown calmly rolls along the front line, receives foreign leaders and diplomats, from no other 8 years ago, the Armed Forces of Ukraine ... they mold directly "monster world scale".
                Military.
                ... And who contributes to it the most?
                Who gives him victories, gives him the initiative, shows "graceful" gestures, arranges "relocations" and organizes an epic "guards drape" with the richest "lend-lease"?
                Who among us categorically refuses to bring the strength of the RF Armed Forces to the MINIMUM corresponding strength?
                Who through the lip footballed volunteers in the military registration and enlistment offices for half a year?
                Who plundered strategic stocks in military warehouses?
                And who "updated the armament of the RF Armed Forces by 70%"?
                But not only that ... who even NOW claims that "There will be no more mobilization"?
                Quote from Orange Bigg
                .Grain deal is worth it!

                And if this is part of the musical composition when playing "four hands"?

                If someone objects that "there is nothing to fill up the bridges across the Dnieper", I suggest that the Iskander OTRK has been armed with a cruise missile with an increased warhead ... up to a ton of warhead weight for several years now.
                That's enough.
                For fidelity - a couple of pieces in one bull.
                And in the tunnels - tactical penetrating nuclear warheads "Iskander" or "Dagger".
                And you will have the isolation of the combat area.
                1. Guran33 Sergey
                  Guran33 Sergey 17 December 2022 04: 42
                  +2
                  Excuse me .. But here are reports that some factories switched to a four-shift work and the rest (apparently a lack of specialists) to a three-shift work .. But this is with us ... and they have a lack of electricity, a lack of power as a result of this work
                  1. bayard
                    bayard 17 December 2022 10: 12
                    +1
                    Quote: Guran33 Sergey
                    they have no electricity

                    They are now practically on full external supply. Even Soviet-caliber ammunition has established production in several NATO countries.
                    The fact that our military-industrial complex factories started working in 3 shifts is wonderful, but the fact that import substitution, which has finally set its teeth on edge, has finally begun in practice, and not in reports, is also great. That's just equipment without l / s does not fight. And the potential of the military-industrial complex of the combined NATO and Co. will be higher, so that in a protracted conflict we will not be able to win - the economies and military-industrial complex of the countries of NATO and Co. will simply be mobilized. And to hope that the crisis will finish them off now and they themselves will give up ... "While the fat one dries, the thin one ..... will die." They are more likely to see the indecision of the Kremlin, the refusal to mobilize / strengthen the Armed Forces, constant concessions and concessions, and seeing the depletion of military resources, they are more likely to decide on direct aggression. And from the red lines and other concerns there ... No. they are not taken seriously.
                    They are already striking at our strategic nuclear forces.
                    In full confidence in their own impunity.
                    For the Kremlin threatens, but wipes itself off.
                    They are no longer embarrassed to PUBLICLY divide Russia into occupation zones, try to exclude them from the UN founders, vote in the UN against a resolution condemning Nazism.
                    They no longer limit themselves or restrain themselves in anything, because for their next blow, the Russian Federation will increase the supply of oil and ammonia, supply grain and fertilizers, uranium, titanium and gold. He will "sell" everything for unsecured (read - fake) money, without receiving anything in return for his product.
                    Well, how to be afraid of such plushies?
                    This morning I was almost blown out of the window by a blast wave (Donetsk) ... It was the eleventh month howling ... NWO.

                    True, the other day the guarantor promised to think about introducing the right to a preemptive strike by strategic nuclear forces into the doctrine ... It's worth thinking about. But it's better to do it.
            2. engineer74
              engineer74 16 December 2022 23: 15
              +4
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              Quote from Orange Bigg
              Well then, we’ll trash all the ways of delivering these weapons. And we are all shy, we are all playing

              I completely agree with you, and we all play with transformers.

              The "game with transformers", if played to the end, will lead to flows of refugees on all roads, gangs of marauders, food riots and wild problems on the western border - in such a situation, "probable partners" will not be able to supply weapons ... Although everything this is very cruel and strongly reeks of genocide ... But we don’t have a lot of ways back ... sad
              IMHO hi
              1. Mihail0221
                Mihail0221 16 December 2022 23: 30
                +5
                The game with transformers, if played to the end, will lead to flows of refugees on all roads, gangs of marauders, food riots and wild problems on the western border - in such a situation, "probable partners" will not be able to supply weapons ..

                Yesterday the article was here. Zaluzny reported through the press that the morale of the soldiers was dropping very much after our strikes on the transformers. That it is hard for a soldier to fight knowing that his wife and children are sitting at home without light and in the cold. So we are on the right path. Targets are good for hitting.
              2. alekseykabanets
                alekseykabanets 18 December 2022 07: 35
                0
                Quote: engineer74
                The "Transformers Game", if played to the end, will lead to refugee flows on all roads, marauding gangs, food riots and wild problems on the western border -

                It won't! These are dangerous illusions.
                Quote: engineer74
                But we don't have many ways back... sad

                Yes, it's not thick anymore, which can't help but irritate.
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            1. Orange Bigg
              Orange Bigg 16 December 2022 22: 47
              +1
              Quote: barclay
              Cut without waiting for peritonitis. Then it will be too late.

              This should have been done at 14. Everything must be done on time. And today, when we allowed the enemy to come to his senses, we don't even have enough forces for a full-fledged offensive operation. God bless you keep what you have.


              And this is already a consequence of the reforms of the Army of the 10s, when everyone said that we need a compact army. So we got a compact army. They also closed a bunch of military educational institutions. Well done.
        2. shinobi
          shinobi 18 December 2022 07: 25
          0
          Whose industry will be more developed. And here we are...
          Well, well. The British thought so, Hitler.
      2. Mihail0221
        Mihail0221 16 December 2022 22: 50
        +4
        It is necessary to tear their delivery logistics at any cost. And to destroy their targets ourselves, detected by our satellites, with high-precision missiles.
        And what about the bridge in the Odessa region, on which they hit with calibers and? What about him? The span fell, and how many calibers it took ... So there are several dozens of such bridges and dams across the Dnieper. The bridge is a goal, of course, but not for cruise missiles, but for free-falling bombs. And here the air defense was not destroyed. And we are not residents of 404 oh, we are very sensitive to losses and this is normal. We cannot send our pilots one way, only to the target. So the ideal target is gentle transformers, already created a problem for the 404 oh. But Putin does not want to finish off the energy system to the end, he does not give permission, he regrets the stubborn ones. It's a humanitarian catastrophe.
        1. Orange Bigg
          Orange Bigg 16 December 2022 22: 56
          -3
          .We cannot send our pilots one way, only to the target.


          Do you know how many pilots have already gone one way to the battlefield, destroying what was put on these bridges? I think more than they would have gone when attacking the bridges across the Dnieper. , than then for months to knock out the equipment carried along the bridges, and which, although not always, is also covered by air defense.
          1. Mihail0221
            Mihail0221 16 December 2022 23: 13
            +3
            Do you know how many pilots have already gone one way to the battlefield, destroying what was put on these bridges? I think more than they would have gone when attacking bridges across the Dnieper.
            You are ill-informed. A large number of weapons were brought to the 404th before our NWO. But we could lose all our aviation by attacking bridges across the Dnieper, capital structures that are not easy to destroy. Here on the forum, experts gave an example of how many forces it took for the destruction of one bridge by the Americans during the Vietnam War. Our aviation has already suffered heavy losses. And you also propose to work on bridges without suppressed air defense.
            1. Orange Bigg
              Orange Bigg 16 December 2022 23: 16
              -2
              Is it possible to attach wings and an engine to some KAB-1500 so that it itself flies and hammers over the bridge? Well, as an option. I think that it is technically possible. a safe distance and then itself. Like a KR, only of high power. Let it fly at least 200-300 kilometers.
              1. Osipov9391
                Osipov9391 17 December 2022 00: 29
                -3
                The aiming and correction module at NPO "Basalt" was developed over 20 years ago.
                Universal kits that allow you to turn ordinary bombs into high-precision glide bombs.
                In mass production, the price of a set would be less than a million rubles apiece.
                If you involve in the production of small private firms, even cheaper.

                But all this was rejected and ruined by commands from above. Probably due to the low possibility of cutting and developing budgets.
                Here is a footnote from a 2003 newspaper: https://www.aviaport.ru/digest/2003/02/12/45662.html

                Since then things are still there!
                There are no JDAM-type kits ready for production and tested in Russia today.
            2. Osipov9391
              Osipov9391 17 December 2022 00: 24
              -1
              The power of cruise missiles is not enough to destroy bridges, and tunnels in general can only be taken with nuclear weapons.
              Bridges are a job for aviation. But we have too little of it and almost all tactical aviation is of long-obsolete types in terms of electronics, sighting systems and weapons.
              For example, for a Su-34 bomber, the launch range of the longest-range missiles usually does not exceed 200 km, and there are no planning bombs at all!
              While the "Shock Eagle" and "Eurofighter" have a range of the most common missiles of 300-980 km, which is almost 5 times further than that of the Su-34 armament.
              Two heads more advanced sighting systems and electronics.
              And almost all bombs are planning JDAM.
              What Russian aviation does not have at all.
        2. Alexy
          Alexy 16 December 2022 23: 23
          -5
          Two dozen bridges across the Dnieper. Of course, if the GRU had rushed in time, it would have been possible to blow up the echelon with explosives right on the bridge. With the Crimean somehow it turned out. Of course, if they didn't blow it up themselves.
          1. Guran33 Sergey
            Guran33 Sergey 17 December 2022 04: 48
            +1
            So what! You are doing this on the outskirts, but in Artemovsk you yourself blew up the railway bridge ..
        3. Sid2014
          Sid2014 16 December 2022 23: 32
          -1
          Yes, and gas must be pumped to the west, without electricity this is a problem! Therefore, there will be no complete shutdown!
      3. ilya.muromczev2013
        ilya.muromczev2013 17 December 2022 05: 47
        0
        Damn :)... You read the comments of some "patriots", they know exactly what to bomb, what to shoot down, and how to win! And in the General Staff, allegedly, they either don’t know this (like, there are only boobies gathered there), or they arrange some kind of “agreements”, or in general the enemies are sitting :) ... Ridiculous :).
        Guys... Stop whining, huh?...
      4. EMMM
        EMMM 17 December 2022 20: 28
        0
        over 12 GPS-guided Excalibur rounds and 106 GPS-guided GMLRS missiles for the Hymars

        Which automatically justifies the destruction of GPS satellites by our side
    2. Epaulettes
      Epaulettes 16 December 2022 21: 32
      -1
      Come on, come on, how many NATO combat aircraft are involved at the front, tell us.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 16 December 2022 21: 49
        +3
        capable of leading it to a "profound transformation"
        The ignoramus discovered America laughing
        Deep or superficial, but even according to the laws of evolution, transformations of states, like everything else, are inevitable.
        1. Akuzenka
          Akuzenka 16 December 2022 21: 52
          +1
          Russia has always been defeated from within. And never outside. The Russian Federation can lose not on the battlefield! The worst option.
          1. dauria
            dauria 16 December 2022 22: 03
            +1
            And never outside.

            Russian-Japanese does not count?
            1. poquello
              poquello 17 December 2022 03: 39
              +2
              Quote: dauria
              And never outside.

              Russian-Japanese does not count?

              no, it doesn’t count, 1905, the column is already inside the state, with the money of the Japanese and "friendly" Americans, weapons and riots are brought into the revolutionary cells
            2. Akuzenka
              Akuzenka 17 December 2022 19: 44
              0
              Russian-Japanese does not count?
              There everything was ambiguous. At sea, yes, they got a sopatka. But the fate of this war was not decided on the battlefield.
          2. Terenin
            Terenin 16 December 2022 22: 17
            +3
            Quote: AKuzenka
            Russia has always been defeated from within.

            But, Russia has always been reborn.
      2. Ivan Ivanov
        Ivan Ivanov 16 December 2022 22: 42
        +2
        Come on, come on, how many NATO combat aircraft are involved at the front, tell us.

        A significant part of the DLRO aircraft and satellite constellation
      3. engineer74
        engineer74 16 December 2022 23: 18
        +2
        Quote: Shoulder straps
        Come on, come on, how many NATO combat aircraft are involved at the front, tell us.

        Are you talking about AWACS and RER? Probably, you can find information somewhere, how many of them are exactly involved ... hi
      4. Osipov9391
        Osipov9391 17 December 2022 00: 34
        0
        Reconnaissance aircraft such as E-8, RC-135, AWACS and strategic UAVs fly daily over the waters of the Black Sea and the borders of Ukraine.
        There are only defiantly (with included defendants) 3-6 of them.
        Surely there is also a covertly turned off responders.

        As for combat aircraft, in August-October several "Growlers" conducted secret missions over the Black Sea and the South of Ukraine to use electronic warfare and launch HARM missiles.
        Perhaps F-35s and Eurofighters were involved to cover grain carriers in the amount of 3-4 pieces.

        3-4 pieces...
        That's all the combat aviation of the alliance that was involved.
    3. alekseykabanets
      alekseykabanets 16 December 2022 21: 37
      +6
      Quote: voice of reason
      This is already an episode of a global war. Russia is not at war with the former Ukraine. Russia is fighting against all of NATO. And so far it's been successful.

      What does it trade then with the NATO countries, if it is at war with them?
      1. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 16 December 2022 21: 54
        +8
        What does it trade then with the NATO countries, if it is at war with them?
        In a dispute between a donkey and a beaver, the BABLO always wins!
    4. Alexey Graff
      Alexey Graff 17 December 2022 00: 33
      -2
      Russia is fighting with a fingernail on the little finger of NATO, and not against all of NATO.
    5. U_GOREC
      U_GOREC 17 December 2022 02: 56
      0
      Quote: voice of reason
      And so far it's been successful.

      Super successful! So successful that for the first time since the beginning of the Great Patriotic War, a Russian city was handed over to the enemy! Or does Kherson not count?
    6. 2112vda
      2112vda 17 December 2022 07: 26
      -1
      History always goes in a spiral. The events of 100 years ago are being repeated. We are in civil war again. That then the "white" liberals, with the support of the Entente, fought against the statesmen represented by the "Reds". That now the statesmen represented by Russia are at war with the completely rabid liberals "Westerners" represented by Banderva and NATO. The confrontation of the collective West with us has been going on for 5000 years. We ourselves are to blame for the new aggravation of the confrontation, we idiots wanted to become on par with Western Europe. But our Westernophiles still have not understood that in the eyes of the West we are inferior beings and a burden that should be destroyed. Western Europeans always seize the territories of other countries and genocide the local population there. It was 5000 years ago with the culture of the so-called battle axes, otherwise called the culture of broken skulls. Then the movement to the east began with the genocide of the Slavic population of Western Europe. The constant crusades and the last two world wars must have brought us to our senses. We constantly believe them and show humanity. No matter how many carrots you feed a wolf, he will not become a rabbit. Enraged predators are always destroyed with the burning of corpses so that the infection does not spread. So it's time to take off the rose-colored glasses to our leadership. We are dealing with enraged rabid predators, they are subject to destruction. Otherwise, history will repeat itself every 50...100 years.
    7. businessv
      businessv 18 December 2022 20: 13
      0
      Quote: voice of reason
      Russia is fighting against all of NATO. And so far it's been successful.
      I think Russia is at war with the entire collective West and God willing will win in the near future, but one more thing haunts - why do people who allow themselves to speak
      Prior to this, Danilov repeatedly threatened Russia that Kyiv would strike at its territory.
      such things are still not in a Russian prison awaiting trial and charges of terrorism as a maximum, but why are they still alive, at least? If today it’s hard to get to them in the square, then it’s quite possible to those who arranged it all in 2013-2014!
  2. Arkady007
    Arkady007 16 December 2022 21: 17
    +1
    Personally, I am against the defeat of Russia, but for deep transformations with both hands.
    1. Orange Bigg
      Orange Bigg 16 December 2022 21: 28
      +8
      Quote: Arkady007
      Personally, I am against the defeat of Russia, but for deep transformations with both hands.


      By deep transformations, he understands the dismemberment of Russia into mini-states with their subsequent absorption by neighboring countries. Are you for this? I am against it.
      1. Arkady007
        Arkady007 16 December 2022 21: 38
        +2
        What he understands by deep transformations, I did not find a translation.
        And the fact that in our leadership it is necessary to do a deep shake-up in order to win, I am absolutely sure of this.
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 16 December 2022 21: 56
        +1
        Quote from Orange Bigg
        By deep transformations, he understands the dismemberment of Russia into mini-states with their subsequent absorption by neighboring countries.

        Did you yourself think up this dismemberment for the Russophobe and gangster Danilov, who abandoned his 90-year-old mother, or did he write that somewhere?
        1. Orange Bigg
          Orange Bigg 16 December 2022 22: 09
          +4
          Well, like small children. Do you believe in an honest and good Danilov? Please.
          . “There are a huge number of colonized peoples that it uses today. When Russia finally gets rid of its colonies, which it grabbed in the XNUMXth and XNUMXth centuries, then we will see the real territory of Russia. All this will fly apart,” he said.
          Danilov believes that assistance from the West will play a key role in this matter - and the sooner they receive it, the sooner they will achieve what they want. start an offensive against another state becomes temporary.

          https://utro.ru/news/ukraine/2022/09/11/1516765.shtml
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 16 December 2022 22: 22
            +3
            Quote from Orange Bigg
            Well, like small children. Do you believe in an honest and good Danilov? Please.
            . “There are a huge number of colonized peoples that it uses today. When Russia finally gets rid of its colonies, which it grabbed in the XNUMXth and XNUMXth centuries, then we will see the real territory of Russia. All this will fly apart,” he said.
            Danilov believes that assistance from the West will play a key role in this matter - and the sooner they receive it, the sooner they will achieve what they want. start an offensive against another state becomes temporary.

            https://utro.ru/news/ukraine/2022/09/11/1516765.shtml

            Yes. Really. Thank you.
            In reality, Danilov turned out to be even dumber than I thought. "Insanity Patient".
  3. Nikolay310
    Nikolay310 16 December 2022 21: 24
    +7
    "effective" managers and photo reports have brought the country to the point where it is threatened by already frank parsleys ... hmm
    1. alexoff
      alexoff 16 December 2022 21: 43
      +2
      In fact, such cockerels have been threatening for a long time, as if not from Stalin's times, they just had smaller positions, and we quoted them less often
  4. AVA77
    AVA77 16 December 2022 21: 25
    0
    Therefore, he calls on the world community to closely monitor the course of hostilities in Ukraine and take them more seriously.

    Yes, he just writes. wassat
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 16 December 2022 22: 03
      +2
      Quote: AVA77
      Therefore, he calls on the world community to closely monitor the course of hostilities in Ukraine and take them more seriously.

      Yes, he just writes. wassat

      It's elementary. Danilov simply promises to do what, according to the logic of war, one way or another, sooner or later, must happen (attacks on Russian territory, blowing up the Crimean bridge, a counteroffensive, obtaining more and more powerful weapons from the West ...) and at the same time presents himself in in the form of a great military philosopher-thinker Sun tzu winked
  5. air wolf
    air wolf 16 December 2022 21: 27
    -2
    It's time to start fighting already, and the second mobilization and make our business finally pay us, and not the Bandera scum!
    1. Epaulettes
      Epaulettes 16 December 2022 21: 34
      -2
      If you want to fight, then why are you sitting here and not in a trench?
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 16 December 2022 22: 06
        +5
        So there are more commercials with destroyed settlements and fields with craters from explosions, like a lunar landscape. How else to fight? request
        Only consistently and systematically push, push and push...
  6. Rage66
    Rage66 16 December 2022 21: 29
    +2
    If the world does not draw the right conclusions, the Ukrainian war of independence will be the prologue to the Great War

    There is a premonition of a global drain soldier
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 16 December 2022 22: 07
      +3
      Quote: Rage66
      If the world does not draw the right conclusions, the Ukrainian war of independence will be the prologue to the Great War

      There is a premonition of a global drain soldier

      Yes, there is no escape from logic. No.
  7. saved
    saved 16 December 2022 21: 31
    +5
    In general, I'm tired of the fact that these fascists openly threaten us through the media, and do not sit with a torch in some kind of bunker. Not enough we still calibrate these demons.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 16 December 2022 22: 09
      +1
      Quote: saved
      In general, I'm tired of the fact that these fascists openly threaten us, through the media,

      This is their first task. And they built this information machine well, unlike us.
  8. Ulan.1812
    Ulan.1812 16 December 2022 21: 32
    +6
    Some gangster, scum threatens Russia.
    Why isn't it outlawed?
  9. 1razvgod
    1razvgod 16 December 2022 21: 33
    +1
    Miscalculations alone Mistakes ... Therefore, such narrow-minded characters threaten. Of course, there’s nothing to sprinkle ashes on your head, but you can’t see any progress
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 17 December 2022 02: 42
      -3
      Today I read that some "metal fragments" fell from the sky in .... the Volgograd region. What kind of "wreckage" is not specified, such as "an investigation is underway" .... recourse
  10. Paul Siebert
    Paul Siebert 16 December 2022 21: 35
    +8
    In April 45, Hitler, shaking his fists, claimed that "General Wenck's army will overthrow the hordes of Russian barbarians!"
    A couple of weeks later, he put a bullet in his head, poisoning his mistress - his wife Eva ...
    We Russians are a nation capable of driving ghouls like Hitler to suicide!
    Lyosha Danilov, think about it...
    We will make your "deep transformation"!
    Let's add some brass and lead to your brain... am
    1. Sith
      Sith 16 December 2022 21: 41
      0
      Come on... The can will die by itself... without a bullet
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 16 December 2022 22: 15
      +5
      Quote: Paul Siebert
      Lyosha Danilov, think about it...

      What will he think? fool
      laughing
  11. alexoff
    alexoff 16 December 2022 21: 41
    +1
    I remember in March Zelensky threatened a world war, in general, it would be time to start giving orders to Emperor Palpatine
  12. Comandor777
    Comandor777 16 December 2022 21: 53
    +2
    Don't say gop until you jump.
  13. Bingo
    Bingo 16 December 2022 21: 54
    +4
    You already have a split, and crochet to the very tail. Vaughn, Ishchenko correctly noted that, having announced the restoration of Ukraine within the borders of 1991, Dill abandoned Sevastopol, which was not part of the Ukrainian SSR and the Autonomous Republic of Crimea - a city of federal significance. I note that Crimea is also a separate republic
  14. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 16 December 2022 21: 57
    +1
    Los lugartenientes principales de Zelensky deberían ser el objetivo de los misiles rusos y el FSB
  15. Jsem_CZEKO68
    Jsem_CZEKO68 16 December 2022 22: 14
    0
    Tento pan lže a neví co mluví. Pokud zapad pošle zbraně dlouhého doletu a Ukrajina je použije, tak to s Ukrajinou dopadne jako po vyhození mostu na Krym. Potom už nebude elektřina a voda nikde! Ukrajina asi chce zatáhnout do války staty NATO.
  16. Mraka
    Mraka 16 December 2022 22: 15
    0
    In general, it’s funny to read .... Kyiv can ...
    Kyiv no one can call him! You supply meat and everything.
  17. Egorovich
    Egorovich 16 December 2022 22: 16
    +3
    When will a blow finally follow on the government quarter of Kyiv, on their Rada, on the SBU, on bridges, on the tunnel from Pshekia to (still) Ukraine!??? Just takes aback.
    1. Osipov9391
      Osipov9391 17 December 2022 00: 38
      0
      Tunnels can only be destroyed by nuclear weapons.
      Bridges are work for aviation, which, for obvious reasons, cannot fly there and effectively hit such targets.
      And for everything else, a political taboo from the first day of the NWO in agreement with the West.
      Its violation will lead to the transfer of long-range tactical and cruise missiles to Ukraine.
      Something like that.
  18. Nord11
    Nord11 16 December 2022 22: 36
    -2
    We must wait for severe frosts on the square and gasp at its underground gas storage facilities. On a cold head, I think it's more realistic ..
  19. alexey_444
    alexey_444 16 December 2022 22: 39
    0
    Before a nuclear strike on Ukraine, we need to prepare, while what is being done is not particularly visible that we are preparing (the economy), victories are not easy for us, unfortunately.
  20. Vrun gel
    Vrun gel 16 December 2022 22: 40
    +2
    It is high time to strike at the border places where military equipment enters Ukraine...
    Yes, and at the locations of such specialists as this strategist and other stewards of Ukraine, it would not hurt to hit with rockets ...
  21. JonnyT
    JonnyT 16 December 2022 22: 44
    +3
    Lord, why do you seriously take the nonsense of this petty thimble-maker?
    It is his owners who do psychological pressure - like, look how big I am, be afraid of me.

    If they climb, then they will be beaten hard, but gently. We have our own, not war.
    In order for Russia to declare war on NATO to Ukraine, and start hitting decision-making centers, industrial centers, military facilities, critical infrastructure, etc., and not be an aggressor at the same time, more weighty reasons are needed than mosquito bites due to drone attacks.
  22. opuonmed
    opuonmed 16 December 2022 22: 58
    +1
    If the world does not draw the right conclusions, the Ukrainian war of independence will be the prologue to the Great War
    he is delusional if they continue to supply ukrrr, then this will lead to a nuclear war! where there will be no winners! but they will not do this because of Ukraine! as long as there is no nuclear war, they will continue to bend intrigues and wage a hybrid war as long as there are such leaders in Ukraine who call and invite to war against the Russian Federation! but when there is a nuclear war, then it’s not they, we, no one in the world will not bend, but they will try to survive in reality, but they won’t go for it! NATO has a line for which they themselves will not cross, they will try with all their might to bet on people like him and greens who do not care about the future of their country, they mentally live in the west! they check the Russian Federation to what extent it is possible to bring the Russian Federation to retreat and impose peace under their conditions !! they play with the Russian Federation until they understand when the Russian Federation will be able to use nuclear weapons; according to their logic, when Hitler was standing near Moscow, Stalin did not use chemical weapons! but as the current NATO troops enter the war, then there will already be a 100% nuclear war, but they didn’t sign up for this! until the Russian Federation inflicts heavy damage on the APU and others in ukrr, they will try to use ukrr by forgiving the Russian Federation even deep into the Russian Federation, so the Russian Federation will not launch a nuclear strike on ukrr! so it's time to show these clowns from ukrr that the Russian Federation is strength and power! (maybe not right in everything and everything is different)
  23. flicker
    flicker 16 December 2022 23: 59
    +2
    Prior to this, Danilov had repeatedly threatened Russia that Kyiv would strike at its territory when it received long-range missiles from its Western allies.
    But do the Western "allies" want hostilities to begin on their territory?
    If strikes with long-range missiles (which the allies will supply) begin on our territory, then the "allies" will immediately begin to receive them on their territory.
    And the "allies" know this.
  24. Veter5757
    Veter5757 17 December 2022 00: 26
    0
    Prior to this, Danilov had repeatedly threatened Russia that Kyiv would strike at its territory when it received long-range missiles from its Western allies.

    And after all, they really do... Unlike the Russian Federation, they will not chew snot.
  25. patxi46
    patxi46 17 December 2022 00: 33
    +1
    https://avia.pro/news/video-nichego-neobychnogo-prosto-torgovyy-centr-na-ukraine
  26. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 17 December 2022 00: 42
    +3
    Kyiv will inflict a defeat on the Russian Federation that can lead it to a “deep transformation”

    ***
    - You will soon have no transformers at all ...
    ***
  27. Vladimir100
    Vladimir100 17 December 2022 03: 23
    -1
    Quote: Osipov9391
    Tunnels can only be destroyed by nuclear weapons.

    Maybe a sabotage group will destroy it by laying a couple of tons of explosives inside so that for sure and for a long time, but this requires shahids.
  28. Vladimir100
    Vladimir100 17 December 2022 03: 28
    -1
    Of course, it would be better for Russia to return the entire territory of the bussr, including the western one (the fertile old Russian region), but for this it is necessary that 80 percent of Banderlogs escape from there and the base of Ukrainian nationalism be eliminated. the same applies to the center.
    strikes on infrastructure are very conducive to this.
  29. Vladimir100
    Vladimir100 17 December 2022 03: 53
    +1
    I wonder if anyone who is here knows this comrade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKTosQ057xs
    maybe someone studied with him in a military school? Judging by the surname, his folder was Russian and most likely a military man.
    How did such a transformation happen to him and why did he fall in love with Hoh-lov so passionately?
    1. Former soldier
      Former soldier 18 December 2022 04: 18
      +1
      How did such a transformation happen to him and why did he fall in love with Hoh-lov so passionately?

      He fell in love with the power that happened to him.
  30. Luka Nord
    Luka Nord 17 December 2022 07: 47
    +4
    Reading such statements by ukrosvidomos, I am more and more convinced that this territory needs to be destroyed and as quickly as possible
  31. cheburator
    cheburator 17 December 2022 08: 01
    +1
    Before all the underdeveloped, it is obviously necessary to remind that victory will be ours, Russia’s, or they will all die and go to hell, and we will go to heaven because we are defending our vital interests. And lamerica, as always out of habit, is trying to cash in on someone else's expense, but this is not their vital interest and they are not interested in going to the end, but we will be forced to. Why do we need such a World in which there will be no Russia?! We are Russians! God with us!
  32. anjey
    anjey 17 December 2022 08: 29
    +2
    Hollow-headed - you are just a bargaining chip, your beloved SaSHA will give you up at the peak hour laughingBurning the World for the sake of Bandera's stupid bastard and his inflated "Angolo-Jewish-Saxon" ambitions ??? Well we'll see am
  33. katarsafebox.com
    katarsafebox.com 17 December 2022 09: 07
    +3
    What the hell is this evil bastard talking about?
  34. Petr_Koldunov
    Petr_Koldunov 17 December 2022 13: 52
    +2
    The ball won't let go! In an alcoholic frenzy, he already mentally went out to the Pacific Ocean - and the ensign of the flowers of down hoisted on Cape Dezhnev ...
  35. zenion
    zenion 17 December 2022 16: 33
    0
    Only one Kyiv, the rest is not needed, can inflict such a thing on Russia that it will be scary. No one on any street in Kyiv will be able to walk without a gas mask for half a year. The smell is already smelling, you just need to understand the otkedov from the streets, or from the cemeteries, as if hinting - you go there.
  36. vvnab
    vvnab 17 December 2022 16: 56
    +2
    If the world does not draw the right conclusions, the Ukrainian war of independence will be the prologue to the Great War


    Does it call for a world socialist revolution? ))
    The point is not in Ukraine, Russia or NATO, but in the crisis of capitalism!
  37. Former soldier
    Former soldier 17 December 2022 21: 19
    +1
    Danilov said: "If the world does not draw the right conclusions, the Ukrainian war of independence will become a prologue to the Great War"

    Formal logic suggests that in this way Danilov directly offers the West to surrender the independence of Ukraine in order to avoid the Great War.
  38. zenion
    zenion 17 December 2022 22: 57
    -1
    Don't say gop, you won't skip the docks! Such a bulo zavzhdi and zavzhdi badly started. From a wide range they fell into a kalabatin.
  39. Aleksandral
    Aleksandral 18 December 2022 03: 13
    +1
    I wonder what he smokes, maybe drinks and in what quantities?
  40. chingachguc
    chingachguc 18 December 2022 14: 22
    0
    Vyser, not a post. You can't take this seriously.
  41. E B
    E B 18 December 2022 20: 03
    0
    every enemy talks about our destruction, and for this we cannot destroy him under the USSR, for this he would be quickly strangled, but apparently the times are not right