NM LNR: Reinforcement arrived to the Ukrainian military in Artyomovsk

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NM LNR: Reinforcement arrived to the Ukrainian military in Artyomovsk

Reinforcements arrived to the Ukrainian military in Artemovsk. The units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine located in the city are in dire need of it, as they suffer serious losses.

This was announced by an officer of the People's Militia of the Luhansk Republic Andrey Marochko, referring to the data obtained by the LPR intelligence.



The arrival of reinforcements for the armed formations of Ukraine was noted in the area of ​​​​the settlement of Artemovsk

- he said.

Most of the militants who arrived were sent to active units to make up for the sanitary and irretrievable losses of personnel. The rest were placed at the disposal of the Ukrainian command as a reserve.


Shortly before this, a representative of the NM of the Luhansk People's Republic said that the Ukrainian military in Artemivsk was experiencing serious difficulties due to a shortage of food and ammunition.

Earlier, the Russian Defense Ministry reported an attack by Ukrainian drones to the military airfields "Dyagilevo" in the Ryazan region and "Engels" in the Saratov region, where the strategic aviation VKS RF. The Russian military continues to launch missile attacks on Ukraine's infrastructure, mainly energy.

It has been 287 days since the beginning of the special military operation. Its announcement on February 24 was preceded by an aggravation of the situation in the republics of Donbass. In this regard, the leadership of the DPR and LPR turned to Russia for help.
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  1. +17
    7 December 2022 09: 27
    You need to gain air supremacy. Without this, it will just be wall to wall with the corresponding losses. We need anti-radar missiles in commercial quantities and AWACS
    1. +9
      7 December 2022 09: 56
      And undercover intelligence on "Sleeping" Air Defense Systems
      1. +1
        7 December 2022 10: 44
        And undercover intelligence on "Sleeping" Air Defense Systems
        Surely everything has already been explored, the main problem is mobile, from new ones.
      2. +20
        7 December 2022 10: 57
        The battles near Artyomovsk, in my opinion, have been going on longer than our grandfathers fought near Stalingrad. Questions arise, how could this replenishment arrive? where did the solarium come from? How is the ammunition for the Armed Forces of Ukraine received? why do railway lines on the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR continue to operate? why weren't all the bridges and tunnels destroyed in the west? And it would be better for the first persons to answer these questions for us, because soon the veterans of the Northern Military District will start asking these questions.
        1. +2
          7 December 2022 11: 12
          I remember Stalingrad in July 42, and in February the field marshal’s surrender was already accepted, which means 7 months. What kind of miraculous fortifications were created there? Civil and other comrades loyal to the DPR and Russia should have left these places long ago, otherwise they would simply have been executed by neo-Nazis. Question then to our "planners" at the top: Who do they pity there ???
        2. +4
          7 December 2022 12: 01
          Well, look at the losses of the Red Army near Stalingrad
        3. +3
          7 December 2022 12: 33
          that as a child, no one will answer these questions
        4. +5
          7 December 2022 14: 32
          Shoigu said that the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in November were 8300 dead, five planes, ten helicopters.

          1. 0
            12 December 2022 13: 22
            Did his gallant generals report to Kuzhuget? Or Konashenkov? So there is no faith in either one or the other.
        5. -1
          8 December 2022 08: 38
          Arrived on the way. Everything cannot be controlled. We got into the pasik / luaz and drove.
      3. +2
        8 December 2022 06: 29
        Quote: novel xnumx
        on "Sleeping" Air Defense Systems

        What is a sleeper air defense system?
        1. 0
          8 December 2022 09: 12
          Which does not constantly turn on its radar and does not detect itself in any way, but after receiving data from the Avaxes, it briefly turns on and works out
          1. +3
            8 December 2022 17: 54
            Again this nonsense about avaks, you look where they fly and where the front is.
          2. +1
            11 December 2022 13: 20
            Data from AWACS. The Boeing E-3 Sentry has a maximum target detection range of 400 km against the background of the ground, and bombers at an altitude of up to 500 km. And let me ask you, he will transmit the CC, they don’t issue tsu to their air defense systems, there is no such possibility, but they will be for Ukrainian ones. Do not make me laugh.
    2. +1
      7 December 2022 12: 14
      Quote: Foundling
      You need to gain air supremacy.

      There is no air supremacy and never will be. Patamushta "Victory in the air is forged on the ground!"
    3. -2
      8 December 2022 03: 46
      Quote: Foundling
      You need to gain air supremacy. Without this, it will just be wall to wall with the corresponding losses. We need anti-radar missiles in commercial quantities and AWACS

      How, in conditions of saturation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with MANPADS in volumes "as much as you want", can you gain air supremacy?
      1. +1
        8 December 2022 06: 29
        So, fly higher. Only higher, there is air defense 20 times destroyed.
        1. -2
          9 December 2022 00: 22
          Quote: Goto
          So, fly higher. Only higher, there is air defense 20 times destroyed.

          Good advice for stormtroopers! The boys didn't even know!
          1. 0
            9 December 2022 22: 22
            Quote: ROSS_51
            Quote: Goto
            So, fly higher. Only higher, there is air defense 20 times destroyed.

            Good advice for stormtroopers! The boys didn't even know!

            wink
      2. +3
        8 December 2022 06: 30
        Yes, you certainly may. Fly above their range
        1. 0
          9 December 2022 22: 25
          Not well are you serious about flying higher? Konashenkov may be the entire Ukrainian. He destroyed the air defense, but our pilots know that this is a zvidezh.
    4. -3
      8 December 2022 04: 42
      Yes, even without your "discoveries" it is clear what needs to be conquered, and what needs to be fought :). But say this thing: about the fact that "the whole civilized world" is helping Ukraine with weapons (and mercenaries), and that Russia is actually fighting there no longer with Ukraine, but with NATO - have you heard anything? Nothing at all? ... Well, consider that I enlightened you, and (maybe) after that your advice will be more ... "adult" ...
      1. +2
        8 December 2022 06: 31
        In fact, Russia has been "preparing" throughout history to fight NATO. It turned out they weren't ready.
      2. +3
        8 December 2022 10: 33
        Well, yes. We are at war with NATO. We reflect every day 5000 axes, and fight with AUG. Isn't it funny yourself? That's who "seriously did not start"
      3. +2
        8 December 2022 17: 56
        Russia is not at war with anyone, moreover, people are fined for the words war / front. Russia is conducting a NWO, and NATO has not even come close to this NWO yet.
      4. Eug
        +1
        10 December 2022 12: 53
        And before the start of the so-called. With whom was it supposed to conduct military operations? They didn’t know anything about NATO’s potential assistance to Ukraine, were they expecting a meeting of military columns with flowers? If so, I would very much like to know on the basis of whose information the relevant decisions were made ...
    5. -2
      8 December 2022 05: 13
      Yes, no, the first thing to do is to switch from the BTG to actions by divisions, regiments and, ideally, corps.
      That is, not a BTG for 4-5 km of the front, but at least a battalion for 1 km.
      As far as I remember, the lack of aviation did not prevent the horsemen from advancing in the Kharkov region.
      It's time to take out the bridges across the Dnieper, one hell, the jumpers will blow them up if something happens.
      In a word, the bosses know everything to no avail - the bosses will decide.
  2. +28
    7 December 2022 09: 27
    Below is the news about the withdrawal of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from Maryinka .. Allegedly, the loss of combat capability .... They will not go anywhere until we destroy them.
    1. +3
      7 December 2022 09: 32
      So the goal of the NWO is the destruction of military and non-military formations that are not friendly to us ... and not hanging flags at checkpoints)
      1. +11
        7 December 2022 09: 38
        So the purpose of svo
        No one knows the purpose of the NWO, unless, of course, you take the vague sayings of the darkest. Although even he himself has recently been pretending that there is no SVO, he has entered into a new, unequal struggle, now with the LGBT. The rest, in my opinion, are more concerned about who would suck in hydrocarbons, how to drop the ruble, rob the people once more ...
        1. +6
          7 December 2022 10: 30
          The Minister of Defense also took up counting Ukrainian losses, monthly ... in people. There is nothing more to do, the rest is all in openwork. All around "success".
          1. +1
            8 December 2022 05: 17
            And what else is the Minister of Defense to do?
            Plan offensive actions? He gave the command and everything will roll like it is necessary for him to have generals of darkness in submission.
            1. +3
              8 December 2022 06: 34
              The commander sets tasks. Develops operations headquarters, operational department. Now think about what operations the General Staff will develop, taking over that toilet. Here the war is such that operations are carried out at the level of a platoon, a company, at most, a battalion. FIG knows who is in charge there and what level these commanders are. But before the generals of the Second World War, they are like the moon.
              1. +1
                8 December 2022 11: 54
                He graduated from the Krasnoyarsk Polytechnic University, which has a military department. In the old years, the Minister of Defense could still develop a plan for attacking a platoon.
        2. -1
          7 December 2022 13: 22
          In the army, in any case ... in the government, well ... always the soul of darkness
      2. +1
        7 December 2022 10: 00
        well, until numerical superiority is achieved, the seizure of territories will do little, but LBS needs to be moved away from Donetsk
      3. +6
        7 December 2022 11: 10
        In such battles as near Artemovsk, both sides are destroyed. This was already in the summer, and then the Ukrainian troops launched an offensive after the exhaustion of the Russian army.
        1. +2
          7 December 2022 14: 40
          Quote: Kronos
          In such battles as near Artemovsk, both sides are destroyed. This was already in the summer, and then the Ukrainian troops launched an offensive after the exhaustion of the Russian army.

          Here I have some deja vu. It seems that there was already the same "grinding". It seems somewhere under Balakleya ...
        2. +2
          8 December 2022 01: 31
          They didn't start under exhaustion at all. Rather, they recruited people, taught them, studied weak areas, and hit them. Vprlchem, globally it did not help them. It would be worth being proud if by December they drove our army out of everywhere, and the Crimea would have already been taken. Now ours are acting competently, not actively attacking, until all the mobilized have been trained and prepared, this takes a lot of time. But in terms of counterintelligence, everything is definitely bad, since such a blow was missed. However, nothing surprising: the enemy studied the weaknesses and took advantage of this. It blew once, the rest is not a fact that they will bleed, because to learn when they hit it painfully - it seems like they can do it with us. It is a pity that they study after being hit with a rake in the forehead, and not instead.
          1. +2
            8 December 2022 06: 35
            We don't train generals. I think they are just old, they do not understand anything in modern realities. Unable to learn something new. They cannot take responsibility.
            1. -1
              8 December 2022 16: 41
              All of us are well trained when they get a hat. If we were not trained - all the wars that are arranged against us in one way or another - we would eventually blow through. But, apparently, we stand to this day. And obviously not in the holy spirit) Here the problem is different - at first there are a lot of unnecessary losses due to unpreparedness.
              1. +1
                9 December 2022 22: 27
                Unpreparedness is the same as untrained generals.
                1. 0
                  12 December 2022 01: 19
                  Great, so why is the country whose generals you're talking about still Russia? Magic?) Oh, no, just the rest of the attackers throughout history used a secret tactic by the end of wars: a negative offensive?)
              2. +1
                9 December 2022 22: 35
                Even if you consider that this game is 2013. And it also has drones and adjustable projectiles, etc. Are the creators of games more long-sighted than generals? Or maybe because the creators dragged into the game something that exists or was in the immediate plans?

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1YBZUxMX8g
                1. 0
                  April 21 2023 16: 28
                  I'll tell you for a small nuance. Economy) The creators of the game can cram anything into it, it costs absolutely nothing. It is very expensive for a real state to shove unverified solutions just like that without mass testing, especially in a real battle. Drones are something like there in 2014 - Israel already used in the Six-Day War. But one thing is a piece copy or a small-scale wholesale product for special applications, and another is the industry standard and the use of technology for armament by the main combat unit in any kind of troops. It was only after the NMD that countries began to massively purchase drones. For they received feedback and a bunch of data on their use in a major conflict, which has not been since World War 2.
    2. +10
      7 December 2022 09: 41
      Quite right, they can only go to Bandera. He meets them there. Only the destruction or surrender of the enemy.
      1. +7
        7 December 2022 10: 08
        Reinforcement arrived to the Ukrainian military in Artyomovsk
        1. 0
          10 December 2022 17: 45
          The dead are carrying the dead. And in a fur coat, one of the green
    3. -1
      7 December 2022 10: 21
      Quote: dmi.pris
      They won't go anywhere until we destroy them.

      They will leave if communications are intercepted. But this must be done maybe tens of kilometers from us. point, and when attacking in the forehead, offensive capabilities are faster than defensive capabilities.
      1. +6
        7 December 2022 10: 33
        Quiet, quiet ... Suddenly wake up the "Gerasimovites". There are constantly citizens here proving that pulling up reserves on a railway scale does not matter for the front. It did in the Great Patriotic War, but now it does not ...
        1. 0
          7 December 2022 14: 42
          Quote: black oil
          Quiet, quiet ... Suddenly wake up the "Gerasimovites".

          Don't worry, don't wake up. They haven't heard anything about what the people are saying for a long time. And they do not think, it seems, already, too. Insanity grew stronger
    4. +1
      7 December 2022 10: 25
      The photo on the splash screen is interesting .. Soviet trunks, village muzzles, American bras, British walkie-talkies. Good equipment, but there weren’t enough knee pads for everyone .. hi
      1. 0
        7 December 2022 14: 44
        English uniform
        Shoulder strap french
        Japanese tobacco,
        Omsk ruler.
  3. 0
    7 December 2022 09: 32
    So these are being disposed of. Western masters have already sentenced them.
    1. +9
      7 December 2022 09: 33
      Recycle then recycle. The question is the price
      1. 0
        7 December 2022 09: 42
        That's right, everything in war has a price, unfortunately.
  4. +13
    7 December 2022 09: 33
    And how many months has Russia been storming trying to liberate Artyomovsk, this small piece of its own large territory?
    1. +15
      7 December 2022 10: 05
      What is Artemovsk? The village of Maryinka is actually one of the microdistricts of Donetsk. Storming the ninth month.
      1. +1
        7 December 2022 23: 00
        What are you! There is a fortified area, the Mannerheim line is resting!
        1. 0
          8 December 2022 05: 20
          Well, try to read about the breakthrough of the Mannerheim Line, after an operational pause, they broke through at a fast pace without big losses.
  5. -5
    7 December 2022 09: 33
    Well, Arestovich has already begun to prepare the public that the city of Artemovsk (Bakhmut) does not have "strategic significance", it still has, having lost Artemovsk, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will collapse their defenses and it will fall like "dominoes". But for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the city of Artemovsk is even more important.
    1. +5
      7 December 2022 10: 28
      having lost Artemovsk, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will collapse their defense and it will fall like "dominoes".

      How many hopes and predictions have already been that we will knock out of this settlement and the defense of the dill will crumble. And not a fig is pouring. 287 days of NWO and nothing fell. Dill only with roots to pull out, otherwise we will stagnate in place. Knock out dill air defense and iron with aircraft at near and far approaches.
    2. +1
      7 December 2022 10: 50
      oleg-nekrasov-19 ... The Armed Forces of Ukraine will collapse their defense and it will fall like "dominoes".

      They have already dug and concreted new holes.
      1. +2
        8 December 2022 01: 38
        I still don’t understand why they won’t flood Ukraine with intelligence, I really don’t want them to reveal fuel depots and hit them with geraniums. Without light, an atomic army will be able to fight, because generators. But without fuel, are they on the holy spirit or something, will they feed their Starlink terminals and walkie-talkies? Fuel is needed for the entire front line immeasurably, and it is by no means carried into the country in canisters in trunks.
        1. +3
          8 December 2022 06: 41
          So intelligence was blown away for a long time. How could the preparations for the Maidan in 2013 be squandered? How to take a shit after 8, eight years of confrontation, that you won’t come out to take Ukraine in an impudent manner?! What can we say about the agent network! She was not and will not be.
          1. 0
            8 December 2022 09: 53
            Goto So intelligence was blown away a long time ago. How it was possible to squander preparations for the Maidan ....

            I think that the leadership (political and military) had information. But the Western partners did not allow any action to be taken, there is impotence in decision-making (or agreements) of this very leadership, until the cock pecked in the ass.
            1. +1
              8 December 2022 16: 34
              +1, it's so clear here - they all really knew, just as usual at random. The loot flowed like a river, so they relaxed and sat. If they invested in propaganda, there would be no Maidan, and behind it and its consequences. But what's done is done, now the realities are different. Although politics is a big game, where everyone takes a cautious step only after the opponent's step, and does not scatter trump cards, it has not gone away, which is now evident. I am sure that they can start destroying fuel storage units, the only question is when they will start. Ukrainians, in fact, "in the long run" so far continue to demonstrate miracles of stupidity and still continue to pretend (or seriously believe) that escalation is a game that works only in one direction. But after each new round of escalation, they themselves receive a lot of soup. Apparently, our people understand that the Ukrainians and the British are constantly studying weaknesses, and are waiting for the next strong move, as at the time of Kharkov or the attack on the bridge. Most likely, after that, a new trump card will be used - attacks on the fuel complex. For without fuel, generators will stand up, which means that not only will it become much more difficult for the army to fight, but there will also be nothing for civilians to warm at least somehow. In fact, Ukraine really has a lot of extremely weak and vulnerable places, and ours sometimes hint at them, but they don’t understand the hints. Well, that's how they gouged the world. But they still do not let up and continue to rock the boat. Well, let them rock the boat, let's see what happens in the long run. As for me, it is most rational to arrange attacks on the fuel infrastructure after the reserves from mobilization are completed, completed their studies and reach the front. Then it would be logical to first complicate their supplies, look at the result, and then, if the consequences of the fuel shortage began to affect, launch an intensive attack. And winter here is a great helper. Nevertheless, we have factories, there is no war on the territory of Russia, in the sense that no one’s army is conducting active operations - there is light in cities everywhere, in general, our infrastructure is all in good order, and no matter how fatal it may be for Ukrainians to attack it simply nothing, so the production of military equipment and the supply of the front to the Ukrainians, so that this seriously affects the conduct of the war, cannot be violated in any way. In the worst case, some spectacular operations such as the attack on the bridge, the Kharkov offensive or the attack on airfields are all one-time actions, in any case we have something to stop new attempts, as you can see. That is, apart from being a reason to jump and announce new wins on their channels for the sake of increasing the clown’s rating, these actions actually do not bring any large-scale benefit to the Ukrainian regime, because they are based on a short attack on a weak spot, but on a global scale it’s all like an elephant pellet.
              But they don't have their own economy. And they don’t have an industry that can stably and absolutely unhinderedly supply weapons and ammunition to the front, everything rests on supplies. In general, their potential in any case is not the one to show off. Well, as they know, let them try further. Sooner or later they will fade.
    3. +2
      7 December 2022 14: 46
      Quote: oleg-nekrasov-19
      Well, Arestovich has already begun to prepare the public that the city of Artemovsk (Bakhmut) does not have "strategic significance", it still has, having lost Artemovsk, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will collapse their defenses and it will fall like "dominoes".

      Why did you decide? Approximately the same number will then storm Chasov Yar and Konstantinovka, and Kramotorsk and Slavyansk twice as many, if they do not start fighting in a real way, and not play children's games.
      1. +1
        8 December 2022 17: 58
        And now they are fighting like a toy or something? With the exception of nuclear weapons, our army uses everything to the limit of its capabilities.
  6. +18
    7 December 2022 09: 33
    But it seems to me that with such leadership as ours, no dominance in the air, in the sea, or on land will help .. Some agreements and selfish issues are quietly resolved! There is no ideology. Billions of oligarchs are at stake. So they decide their issues in their own interests. It's all gross.
  7. -11
    7 December 2022 09: 34
    Quote: VLAD-96
    But it seems to me that with such leadership as ours, no dominance in the air, in the sea, or on land will help .. Some agreements and selfish issues are quietly resolved! There is no ideology. Billions of oligarchs are at stake. So they decide their issues in their own interests. It's all gross.


    Oligarchs, bargainers, authorities, the Kremlin... boring, girls... is there anything on the case? drinks
    1. +15
      7 December 2022 09: 40
      And in fact, the leadership of impotent. There are muscles, everything is there, but there is no will. Otherwise, Donetsk would have been defended by hook or by crook a long time ago so that the Nazis would not fire at it every day. And nothing is happening yet.
      1. +8
        7 December 2022 10: 16
        Quote: Damir Shamaev
        And in fact, the leadership of impotent. There are muscles, everything is there, but there is no will

        As shown by the CBO, there is nothing. The Black Sea Fleet is useless, it only rakes and complains about how it is fired upon from peaceful convoys. Brad but it is.
        according to the Ministry of Defense, our aviation has gained air supremacy, but Ukrainian planes are shot down every day, and ours are afraid to fly because air defense is working.
        So we have been suffering for 10 months already, there is a desire, there is a will, but there is just no strength.
        1. 0
          8 December 2022 05: 25
          Wait, the fleet will peck you for such assessments of the Black Sea fleet.
          Practically zero sense, even if they take an example from the Black Sea Fleet of 1914-1916.
          You can write off many more sense to the infantry.
    2. 0
      7 December 2022 10: 14
      is there anything on the case?

      If you believe Prigozhin (someone needs to be trusted in general), the goal is not to capture Artemovsk, but to grind the maximum number of enemy personnel in it. In this sense, the qualitative composition of cannon fodder is of interest. If these are freshly caught mobiles and therodefense, then they are plotting something (and possibly not there), but if the reserves trained in England, then perhaps everything is going according to plan.
      1. +9
        7 December 2022 10: 26
        Quote from: laws70
        If Prigozhin is to be believed (someone must be believed in general), the goal is not to capture Artemovsk, but to grind the maximum number of enemy personnel in it.

        Grind in an open field. If the APU has the ability to receive reinforcements and everything else to maintain a database, then the supply lines are not intercepted. Accordingly, such a grinding (head-on attack) is more harm than good for us.
      2. +5
        7 December 2022 11: 02
        Quote from: laws70
        If Prigozhin is to be believed (someone must be believed in general), the goal is not to capture Artemovsk, but to grind the maximum number of enemy personnel in it.

        Who's crushing whom? Storming the enemy fortified areas in the forehead for a month already?
  8. -4
    7 December 2022 09: 39
    Fresh cannon fodder has arrived. When will they understand that this war is being waged against them by their own leadership, who does not feel sorry for them from the word at all!?
    1. +3
      7 December 2022 10: 08
      Quote from: Peter1First
      When will they understand that this war is being waged against them by their own leadership, who does not feel sorry for them from the word at all!?

      They may understand, but what can they do? The soldier is a forced man, he does what he says.
    2. +1
      7 December 2022 10: 20
      When will they understand that this war is being waged against them by their own leadership, who does not feel sorry for them from the word at all!?

      Never. They are united by a general hatred for the damned Muscovites with a small (statistically average) amount of brains and a sense of superiority over everyone except the white master in Washington. Train a bit, give machine guns and get the perfect soldiers.
  9. -2
    7 December 2022 09: 40
    ... replenishment arrived in Artemovsk
    When one wave of mobilization in Ukraine is replaced by another, it is not surprising that human resources are available. Has everyone passed the initial training and is really ready for combat operations?
    1. +1
      7 December 2022 09: 57
      They are gradually being pulled up, trained. Their units are being rotated, replenished, re-armed. There are human reserves there. How much is enough, I don’t know.
    2. +4
      7 December 2022 09: 58
      So, they taught abroad, according to NATO standards
      1. 0
        7 December 2022 10: 23
        So, they taught abroad, according to NATO standards

        If NATO standards, as before, assume a war with the natives, heavily armed with AK-74s, then maybe nothing.
        1. +2
          7 December 2022 11: 31
          Heavy weapons are AK-47 with attached bayonet
          1. 0
            7 December 2022 13: 29
            Mosin rifle with a bayonet ... a weapon of mass destruction ... for making canapés from opponents sitting on the other side of the river in a trench
  10. +2
    7 December 2022 09: 40
    In my understanding, there are two scenarios. First, technologically it is the conquest of air supremacy, scorched earth tactics and advancement with minimal losses. If the conditions for this are not created and the necessary technical means for this scenario are not available, then only the total and ignoring the millions of drug losses of 30-40 million will be defeated. This is if you face the truth. True, there is a third option, this is not to hover in the clouds, but to really control the military-industrial complex and have reliable information about their capabilities at the time of the decision. But that's all in the past.
    1. 0
      7 December 2022 10: 30
      Quote: Foundling
      But that's all in the past

      In principle, everything is correct, but the third option is already superfluous, indeed everything is in the past, the deed is done. There is really another third option, to drive Ukraine into the Stone Age, regardless of the losses of our and their oligarchs. For him, there are just all the possibilities, the problem is with desire.
    2. +2
      7 December 2022 11: 12
      Quote: Foundling
      In my understanding, there are two scenarios.

      You need to try to fulfill two conditions and achieving any of them will be the key to victory. This is air supremacy and disruption of supply logistics.

      A radical way of disrupting logistics is cutting off western Ukraine from Belarus. Less radical - the destruction of communications, bridges, tunnels, electrical substations at 750 kV ...
      I wrote about this for a long time.
    3. +1
      8 December 2022 18: 00
      If the conditions for this are not created and the necessary technical means for this scenario are not available, then only a total and ignoring the loss of millions of drugs of 30-40 million will be defeated.


      This is if the West stops providing assistance, otherwise we will not have enough resources to win despite the population advantage.
  11. -2
    7 December 2022 09: 41
    the most significant result of the battle near Artyomovsk was that the entire Kherson armada of the Armed Forces of Ukraine of many ten thousand in the end ... did not appear anywhere and did not achieve anything. All these "offensives" in the Svatov and Kupyan directions ate equipment and reserves, the Artyomovskaya-Bakhmut meat grinder led to the fact that all those forces that could be used in all other directions are being ground there. Under Artemovsk, the RF Armed Forces confidently hold the initiative, and holding the defense is very costly for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    1. +3
      7 December 2022 11: 22
      "many ten thousandth Kherson armada of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the end ... did not appear anywhere" ///
      ---
      She has not yet been brought into battle.
      She is not for Artemovsk.
    2. 0
      7 December 2022 11: 29
      Quote from monetam
      the entire Kherson Armada of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the end ... did not appear anywhere and did not achieve anything

      I would also like to see the result on the map.
      Without this, the score on the scoreboard does not change, and any statements remain just words.
    3. +1
      8 December 2022 01: 15
      It's too early to rejoice. They have tens of thousands of Armed Forces officers there now studying abroad. Remember, just at the end of August, the beginning of September, 10 APUs trained in Britain arrived, and this was enough to knock the Russian Federation out of the Kharkov region. There are currently 40 students enrolled. When they return, where will they be thrown? Wouldn't it again be a complete surprise for the RF Armed Forces, like under Balakleya and Izyum.
  12. -10
    7 December 2022 09: 41
    Quote: Trapp1st
    So the purpose of svo
    No one knows the purpose of the NWO, unless, of course, you take the vague sayings of the darkest. Although even he himself has recently been pretending that there is no SVO, he has entered into a new, unequal struggle, now with the LGBT. The rest, in my opinion, are more concerned about who would suck in hydrocarbons, how to drop the ruble, rob the people once more ...


    The main goal of the NWO is the unification of the Slavic peoples. As a result of the special operation, Russia, Ukraine and Belarus will become a single country. The secondary goals of the President have long been announced. hi
    1. +5
      7 December 2022 10: 17
      As a result of the special operation, Russia, Ukraine and Belarus will become a single country.

      For this to happen, the greatest changes in all spheres of life must take place in Russia. I am afraid that this is not possible now and in the near future.
    2. +1
      7 December 2022 10: 20
      Quote from BattleToads
      The main goal of the NWO is the unification of the Slavic peoples.

      Oh is it??? You will also call on the Bulgarians and Poles to unite. Also like the Slavs
    3. +4
      7 December 2022 11: 13
      In reality, exactly the opposite, the longer and bloodier the war, the more discord.
    4. 0
      8 December 2022 01: 17
      And where are the other Slavs? Poles and Croats with Bulgarians, too, to us?
  13. -4
    7 December 2022 09: 45
    Quote: Damir Shamaev
    And in fact, the leadership of impotent. There are muscles, everything is there, but there is no will. Otherwise, Donetsk would have been defended by hook or by crook a long time ago so that the Nazis would not fire at it every day. And nothing is happening yet.


    Forward to the forefront to make history! Show everyone how to drinks
    1. -9
      7 December 2022 09: 55
      Yes, couch whiners are always full of ammunition here.
      1. +1
        7 December 2022 10: 35
        Quote: Dmitry Tsarevich
        Yes, couch whiners are always full of ammunition here.

        It's not about whining. A lot of people understand a little how it should be, and seeing how they do it, they enter into dissonance.
    2. +11
      7 December 2022 10: 04
      Stop writing nonsense, it’s mostly people who gave their Motherland a lot of years ... Go to the trenches, make history, what do we care about the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation with the generals and the High Priest?
      I honestly pay almost 1,5 lyamas a year for white taxes, and I’m very interested, as a citizen, what the hell is all this for and how will it end?
    3. +9
      7 December 2022 10: 09
      Take it first. Secondly, Putin himself said that 300 thousand is enough for him. What am I going to do there? I will carry out orders to retreat or take fortifications head-on. Thirdly, why the hell do I need such an army, which can do nothing. All I hear is, 100500 killed nationalists, knocked out 666 tanks, and the result, that is, at least, as evidence, a muddy shot of something and what point .. Yes, the boys are fighting, but the authorities cannot provide communications, intelligence, high-precision ammunition, just a PURPOSE can't provide what they want at all. Everything is so pitiful and done in spite of that you fuck up the level of indifference. They, these generals, are not ashamed to be so miserable. I'll say no.
      1. 0
        7 December 2022 10: 29
        Of course, there was no doubt about it. At first, the authorities sold us, the generals are stupid, but what ends with me going to fight because the authorities sold us, the generals are stupid (well, and so many times). "And so I am for the Motherland, very fighting and very smart, but only on the couch at home"
        Upstairs they already wrote "The girls are tired of their whining, there is something to say, say"
  14. +2
    7 December 2022 09: 50
    nudk we have our own wall to wall! here the wall stands and it attacks) and then we don’t do anything on the wall, we try to hit with rockets in order to bring the ukrov to the conversation, that’s all
  15. -1
    7 December 2022 09: 50
    Quote from monetam
    the most significant result of the battle near Artyomovsk was that the entire Kherson armada of the Armed Forces of Ukraine of many ten thousand in the end ... did not appear anywhere and did not achieve anything. All these "offensives" in the Svatov and Kupyan directions ate equipment and reserves, the Artyomovskaya-Bakhmut meat grinder led to the fact that all those forces that could be used in all other directions are being ground there. Under Artemovsk, the RF Armed Forces confidently hold the initiative, and holding the defense is very costly for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.


    Full understanding of the materiel, bravo! good
  16. -4
    7 December 2022 09: 54
    They fill up with "meat" trying to defend themselves!


    The Armed Forces of Ukraine daily lose up to a battalion of personnel killed and wounded in the Artemovsky direction.


    Andrey Marochko, a representative of the People's Militia of the LPR, announced this.

    According to him, the Armed Forces of Ukraine also suffer catastrophic losses due to attempts to make a breakthrough in the area of ​​Svatov and Kremennaya (on the borders of the Republic)
  17. -4
    7 December 2022 10: 08
    Quote: dnestr74
    Stop writing nonsense, it’s mostly people who gave their Motherland a lot of years ... Go to the trenches, make history, what do we care about the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation with the generals and the High Priest?
    I honestly pay almost 1,5 lyamas a year for white taxes, and I’m very interested, as a citizen, what the hell is all this for and how will it end?


    Read the goals and objectives of the Special Military Operation! drinks
  18. -7
    7 December 2022 10: 14
    Quote: Damir Shamaev
    Take it first. Secondly, Putin himself said that 300 thousand is enough for him. What am I going to do there? I will carry out orders to retreat or take fortifications head-on. Thirdly, why the hell do I need such an army, which can do nothing. All I hear is, 100500 killed nationalists, knocked out 666 tanks, and the result, that is, at least, as evidence, a muddy shot of something and what point .. Yes, the boys are fighting, but the authorities cannot provide communications, intelligence, high-precision ammunition, just a PURPOSE can't provide what they want at all. Everything is so pitiful and done in spite of that you fuck up the level of indifference. They, these generals, are not ashamed to be so miserable. I'll say no.


    Write a complaint to higher authorities, make rational proposals to increase the defense capability of our country, that's business! drinks
  19. +7
    7 December 2022 10: 16
    Quote from BattleToads
    Forward to the forefront to make history! Show everyone how to

    Have you already looked there? Are you scribbling from a trench? Or do you give instructions from the couch?
    1. +6
      7 December 2022 10: 33
      Quote: VLAD-96
      Have you already looked there? Are you scribbling from a trench? Or do you give instructions from the couch?

      Yes, from the office he is scribbling somewhere. "Professional" I guess.
  20. -4
    7 December 2022 10: 18
    Quote: AlexGa
    As a result of the special operation, Russia, Ukraine and Belarus will become a single country.

    For this to happen, the greatest changes in all spheres of life must take place in Russia. I am afraid that this is not possible now and in the near future.


    This is the main goal of the CBO, everything will be implemented hi
  21. -5
    7 December 2022 10: 20
    Quote: VLAD-96
    Quote from BattleToads
    Forward to the forefront to make history! Show everyone how to

    Have you already looked there? Are you scribbling from a trench? Or do you give instructions from the couch?


    I fully trust our Leadership and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, from the ordinary soldier to the General Staff! instead of smearing snot and tantrums like grandmas at the entrance. drinks
  22. 0
    7 December 2022 10: 20
    This is how intelligence works normally. Replenishment arrived, where, how much. I wonder how much the Ukrainians sold this information for?
  23. +2
    7 December 2022 10: 23
    Earlier, the Russian Defense Ministry reported an attack by Ukrainian drones on the military airfields "Dyagilevo" in the Ryazan region and "Engels" in the Saratov region, where the strategic aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces is based. The Russian military continues to launch missile attacks on Ukraine's infrastructure, mainly energy.
    . The fact that from the very beginning some "wise men" decided to conduct a non-war, strange operation will fly away to our people ... hard !!!
    The enemy adapts and spares no resources... it may also happen that they cross another red line... and then what to do???
  24. +3
    7 December 2022 10: 25
    The meat grinder will continue for a long time, NATO is rich in volunteers ready to fertilize Ukrainian lands
  25. +1
    7 December 2022 10: 32
    Quote from BattleToads
    Quote: Trapp1st
    So the purpose of svo
    No one knows the purpose of the NWO, unless, of course, you take the vague sayings of the darkest. Although even he himself has recently been pretending that there is no SVO, he has entered into a new, unequal struggle, now with the LGBT. The rest, in my opinion, are more concerned about who would suck in hydrocarbons, how to drop the ruble, rob the people once more ...


    The main goal of the NWO is the unification of the Slavic peoples. As a result of the special operation, Russia, Ukraine and Belarus will become a single country. The secondary goals of the President have long been announced. hi


    Come on!?
    Interestingly, it will come unexpectedly, suddenly after a certain: hobb! Here you go! ??
    Because so far everything is happening exactly the opposite.
  26. +1
    7 December 2022 10: 32
    Why hasn't this little fool been arrested by the WRC for leaking information to the media?
  27. +1
    7 December 2022 10: 36
    Quote: cmax
    Quote: VLAD-96
    Have you already looked there? Are you scribbling from a trench? Or do you give instructions from the couch?

    Yes, from the office he is scribbling somewhere. "Professional" I guess.


    Looks like Gonzales reincarnated, once again.
    1. +8
      7 December 2022 11: 18
      No, not Meehan Gonzalez. Here, for a week, a couple scribbled 80 rubles. Sorry sight.
    2. +5
      7 December 2022 11: 49
      Quote: Hindu
      Looks like Gonzales has reincarnated

      And I think the bot is paid.
  28. 0
    7 December 2022 11: 24
    The whole point is that we play CBO. And in this case, the army cannot be fully involved under any laws.
  29. 0
    7 December 2022 14: 48
    The boys are not going there, oh not there ...
    Hey, APU, turn shafts against NATO!
    Russia will help!!!!!!!!!!!
  30. 0
    8 December 2022 01: 05
    Flirting and not fighting like a pro. Low-yield depleted uranium thermonuclear charges will bring a good harvest. Burn out within a radius of 1 km.
    Well . Customs is OK.
    Wow come on. Don't be afraid.
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  32. 0
    8 December 2022 04: 10
    Well, the replenishment has arrived.
  33. 0
    8 December 2022 05: 50
    287 days NWO. Just the length of the BM21 rocket. There are more rockets.
  34. 0
    8 December 2022 07: 33
    Quote: Canep
    how could this replenishment come?

    The men were driven from Kherson ... and on foot to the position.
    Well, you understand that only this site can answer these questions for you.)
  35. 0
    10 December 2022 10: 34
    WORLD PATRIOTIC WAR FOR TRADITIONAL VALUES AGAINST FASCISM
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  37. 0
    12 December 2022 12: 13
    Well, how did it happen that our intelligence missed the approach of fresh forces? Well, now it will be hot in this direction. Both ours and not ours