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German edition: winter will help the Ukrainian army to win, so you can not go to any negotiations with Russia

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German edition: winter will help the Ukrainian army to win, so you can not go to any negotiations with Russia

The German publication Bild published an article discussing the possible impact of the coming winter on the course of hostilities in Ukraine. German authors, who until recently wrote that “Vladimir Putin is counting on the Frost General,” have now decided to change their “logic” to a diametrically opposite one, stating that “winter will help Ukraine win, liberate large territories.”


From the article in the mentioned publication, known for its Russophobia, the reader, judging by the idea of ​​the authors, should draw “the only correct conclusion for himself”: when the winter cold sets in in Ukraine, Russian military hardships and hardships will be experienced, but Ukrainian ones will not.
The article claims that the Russian army has a "blatant shortage of winter clothes, winter sleeping bags, tea and heating materials."

From an article by German authors:

The Russians do not have any shelters and shelters. Often there are not even trenches, the ground is frozen, it is impossible to dig them, so you have to spend the winter in the open air - under the blows of the Ukrainian military. There is no warm food, no tea, and the temperature there is already dropping to minus 15. They are forced to kindle fires, which betrays them.

Ultimately, the authors of Bild write that “Russia could lose 100 troops in the winter, so Putin is asking for negotiations.”

From the material of a German author sitting in a warm studio with light and hot water - a message for Ukrainians:

But these requests must be answered unequivocally: no negotiations!

The German author, in his fabrications, forgets that if the Ukrainian army has such “warm and equipped positions”, then the Russian army can occupy them ... So, in principle, this is already happening today in a number of areas, including Artyomovskoe and Avdeevsko-Maryinskoe.
The author also forgets (or rather deliberately does not say) that Ukraine is plunging into an energy crisis, already now more than 70 percent dependent on supplies from outside. Any hitch in such supplies, be it fuel, generators, batteries, not to mention weapons and ammunition, leads to extremely negative consequences for the Kyiv regime. Therefore, you can write as much as you like that “no negotiations with Russia can be conducted,” but sooner or later the situation will come to the point that such negotiations will, in principle, cease to be of any interest to Russia itself.
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  1. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 1 December 2022 06: 44
    +7
    "winter will help Ukraine win, liberate large territories."
    Well, if the win is like in the points of "vileness", with poisoned from the exhaust of generators - then OH.
    1. Alex_1973
      Alex_1973 1 December 2022 07: 32
      +14
      In sausage and paddling pools, apparently, the genetic memory jumped up, just in the wrong direction, some remembered the frost, others won some kind of special tribunal bridge.
      And it will end like this:

  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 December 2022 06: 48
    +15
    "winter will help Ukraine win, liberate large territories."
    And the Russians were born in Africa, and therefore winter is a "hit in the liver" for them? The part of the Germans who consider themselves "intellectual" (politicians, journalists ...) have completely lost their bearings in their ardent hatred of our country, that without a twinge of conscience they carry complete nonsense and pass it off as analytics on the basis of supposedly their "knowledge" of Russia. Have you forgotten the winter of 1941 near Moscow? Who froze snot there and got it in full? I wonder what they will sing by the end of winter. I won’t be surprised if it sounds again that “General Frost” is helping the Russians.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 1 December 2022 06: 54
      +8
      It's minus 25 outside my house at night... smile nothing has died yet.
      A good frost always invigorates and encourages active movement and life.
      Stop and freeze.
      Europeans have a bad idea of ​​our life in winter sitting in their warm apartments.
      1. Plate
        Plate 1 December 2022 08: 55
        +2
        You will turn on the heating, the heater of the house, and again it will pull you to sleep wink Then you have to open the window to freshen up a little.
      2. Ilgizl
        Ilgizl 1 December 2022 09: 02
        +2
        Yes, it’s just the gay Europeans who heat their homes poorly, the banal housing and communal services are painfully expensive, they goggle when they see how we ventilate apartments in winter. So it’s more likely that we, well, for the most part, the city’s more relaxed.
      3. topol717
        topol717 2 December 2022 22: 15
        0
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Europeans have a bad idea of ​​our life in winter sitting in their warm apartments.

        You are either a cross or cowards. This is about warm European apartments.
        There are many relatives/acquaintances in Germany, they always wear sweaters all day in the house in winter, but now they stubbornly explain to me that the best temperature for an apartment is 17 !!!!! degrees. The type is best for body and brain.
        And these are people I know very well, they speak in all seriousness, and they still consider me an ignoramus, but here in Russia I don’t understand anything.
    2. Myths
      Myths 1 December 2022 07: 15
      +9
      So let's look at NATO equipment in cold weather. Their fellow tribesman also believed that he would march through our homeland and the frosts would not matter to them.
      1. The popuas
        The popuas 1 December 2022 07: 20
        +6
        Yes, what frosts are there in Ukraine ... what are you talking about request
        1. Alex_1973
          Alex_1973 1 December 2022 07: 40
          +11
          Popuas (Maxim)
          Yes, what frosts are there in Ukraine ... what are you talking about
          Ukraine is not small, and the frosts there, of course, are not minus 50, but minus 15-20 is quite for itself. I'm telling you as a resident of approximately the same places. They are less than a hundred miles from me. and it's minus 12 outside my window. Taking into account the fact that we have almost constant winds and humidity, even -10 is felt, God forbid. At least Siberians say that their -40 is better than our -10.
          1. alexey sidykin
            alexey sidykin 1 December 2022 08: 32
            +1
            You know ... but about this, less than a hundred about the weather, this is not even an indicator. Too many nuances but it affects. At least we have on Wed. Volga. We have weather even within 50 km can be dramatically different laughing And as for the wind, I agree 100%, since we rarely have a day without it.
          2. Andrei Nikolaevich
            Andrei Nikolaevich 1 December 2022 08: 47
            +1
            Yeah. It is better in Siberia minus 40 than in the square - minus 5. Dampness, dubak.
          3. Deon59
            Deon59 1 December 2022 08: 51
            +1
            In February and March, many people got frostbite in NWO.
          4. Vasilyevich Pensioner
            Vasilyevich Pensioner 1 December 2022 09: 23
            +2
            Siberians say that their -40 is better than our -10.
            We don't speak. He served on Sakhalin, and there is no match for the Ukrainian weather. Minus up to -20 -30 often with wind, the climate is maritime. I did not feel discomfort compared to our Western Siberia (we also have high humidity, full of swamps and lakes). The only inconvenience, if the snow starts, then waist-deep. If it is snowing, then today's snowdrift will move to another place, leaving bare ground. And it rams it so hard that you can’t take it with a bayonet shovel. Taxiing / take-off could only be cleared by rotary snow blowers.
      2. your vsr 66-67
        your vsr 66-67 1 December 2022 08: 27
        +3
        Quote from Mitos
        So let's look at NATO equipment in cold weather. Their fellow tribesman also believed that he would march through our homeland and the frosts would not matter to them.

        unequivocally: no negotiations!

        That's what they wrote right! No negotiations! They also forgot that 404 winters are milder than mostly in Russia! So, who will freeze first? I had to work at -56-58, and nothing, no one froze! And no one activated the days in such frosts.
    3. SKVichyakow
      SKVichyakow 1 December 2022 07: 52
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      And the Russians were born in Africa, and therefore winter is a "hit in the liver" for them?

      According to them, frost affects only us. They were ordered to sing the praises of dithyrambs so that they would not think of capitulating, so they are trying, showing all their stupidity.
  3. Corrosion inhibitor
    Corrosion inhibitor 1 December 2022 06: 53
    0
    Fools and thieves again begin to fence negotiations! The second ones are sent on the air more and more often, with whining and panic articles. They think that if they are cheap, then the whole being is arranged as they want. Yes, only the rest, ... "for some reason" bully ... don't give a shit.
    I am definitely against it. I believe that all people on the planet, except for the categories indicated at the beginning, who are in the know about things in Ukraine, still cannot understand - what other negotiations can there be! ..
    1. Myths
      Myths 1 December 2022 07: 14
      +4
      I also think that they should not be with the Nazis. Any negotiations and a stop is the restoration and build-up of the potential of the war, and this is even more deaths.
      1. Corrosion inhibitor
        Corrosion inhibitor 1 December 2022 07: 37
        -1
        Europe is a bare-ass region with a developed industry, on which everything in this place is built. They don't have the resources to maintain it. And they will stop at nothing until they get it on their own terms.
        Or until they are knocked over with their muzzle in the mud, which I look forward to, like many others on this planet bully .
        For once, this will become a reality in the near future - when the Euroid tolerotics will be shown their place, if, of course, they are going to live under the sun and continue to live.
        Well, if not, then there will be another no, less diplomatic, with an even worse result for them than what is already there.
        Well, Russia will not get much from this loss. We are used to throwing dirt off the road with clean shoes.
        1. topol717
          topol717 2 December 2022 22: 24
          0
          There are 4 types of resources - Financial, Labor, Energy and Materials!!!! According to Marx, there is still the Brain, but we will discard it.
          Europe has Labor and Money. in Russia this is not the case, but there are Materials and Energy.
          We extract labor in Central Asia. We can print money. To clarify hu is hu, The authorities must have people who can have the will to drag out this conflict for 4-5 years. Do you AGREE for such a period????
          1. Corrosion inhibitor
            Corrosion inhibitor 3 December 2022 04: 12
            0
            In Europe, there are labor (probably resources) and money. this is not the case in Russia.

            You are under delusion. Your calculations are wrong. And statements about deadlines are far-fetched pathos.
            In Russia, there is only one thing missing - the opportunity for people to do business. This is a complex problem of semi-natural origin, very difficult to understand the content. I have no desire to discuss it with you now.
  4. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 1 December 2022 06: 56
    +2
    when winter cold sets in in Ukraine, Russian military hardships and hardships will be experienced, but Ukrainian ones will not.
    recourse Of course, Herr. Given that the "army" of dill is 50% blacks, Latinos and other hothouse flowers, accustomed to tests in the jungles of Brazil .... Winter is exactly what they need for success. feel
  5. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 1 December 2022 07: 02
    +10
    ***
    - The heat-loving "Buryat tankers" are puzzled ...


    ***
  6. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 1 December 2022 07: 03
    +12
    In winter, the Germans are the best, experts, In vain they won’t advise)
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 1 December 2022 07: 38
      +10
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      In winter, the Germans are the best, experts, In vain they won’t advise)

      Remember, remember ...


      But THIS is "the stories of Russian soldiers"?
      December 2nd. Snow, only snow. The food is dirty. We are hungry all the time.
      December 6. Portions have been reduced...
      December 8th. The food gets worse. One loaf of bread for seven people. Now we have to switch to horses.
      12 December. Today I found a piece of old moldy bread. It was a real treat. We only eat once when food is distributed to us and then fast for 24 hours...
      It turns out not at all! This is from the diary of non-commissioned officer Josef Schaffstein, p / p 27547. 1942.

      But THIS
      The Russians do not have any shelters and shelters. Often there are not even trenches, the ground is frozen, it is impossible to dig them, so you have to spend the winter in the open air - under the blows of the Ukrainian military. There is no warm food, no tea, and the temperature there is already dropping to minus 15. They are forced to kindle fires, which betrays them.
      they obviously heard enough from Gordon. Well, what about them, in Ukraine (and according to Uraina and in Europe), everyone knows how Russian soldiers "suffer" and only dream of surrendering to captivity.
      But what is there to do? They, the "warriors of light", are cold themselves...

      Let the "specialists in Russian winter" apply - I have a classmate who is a psychiatrist who is very respected in his circles. Will help everyone. There is enough "sulfur" for everyone ...
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 1 December 2022 08: 35
      +1
      It's a shame for the Italians, they are practically not remembered as specialists in Russian frosts! Probably there are no witnesses left? hi
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 1 December 2022 08: 50
        +3
        Countryman - hello. Yes, the Italians froze all their organs in the Second World War. This is not Italy for them ..)
    3. topol717
      topol717 2 December 2022 22: 31
      0
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      In winter, the Germans are the best, experts, In vain they won’t advise)

      I have a friend and his friends, I know them too. They arbitrarily fall when it is already cold, and go hunting / fishing in winter. In general, they catch fish in a tent on the ice, and they say they warm themselves with a candle. Despite the fact that the house is warm, wife and children. But no, they want to "freeze"
  7. Roman Bubnov
    Roman Bubnov 1 December 2022 07: 04
    +5
    Yes, something is wrong in the NATO kingdom ...
    Just Stoltenberg said that the Russians are not fighting honestly, they say they use the winter frosts as a weapon!
    And now it turns out the other way around, winter will help the Armed Forces of Ukraine ... how will it help?
    They can’t seem to decide who spring helps and who it hinders.
    That's what Western thinking means!
    They don’t know there that there are only four problems in Russia - autumn, winter, spring and summer ...
    You can cope with the rest, you have already adapted!
    1. Momotomba
      Momotomba 1 December 2022 07: 34
      +3
      Quote: Roman Bubnov
      Russians do not fight honestly, they say they use winter frosts as a weapon!

      From the point of view of the West, we use everything as a weapon: cold, heat, rain, mud, snow, drought, leaf fall, the cries of crows... Even nature is with us!!
  8. Nikoha2010
    Nikoha2010 1 December 2022 07: 12
    +1
    ...that's why Putin is asking for negotiations.
    What other negotiations? Are they listening to Peskov's talking mustache? We now have -30 overboard, so what? Yes, but what about the lack of tea? laughing
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 1 December 2022 07: 44
      +2
      Quote from Nikoha2010
      Yes, but what about the lack of tea?

      The influence of the English special forces in diapers, with whom Ukraine is now being trained, who froze their bells during the exercises.
      From there, about tea. It turns out that it is impossible to fight without warm dry closets (and we didn’t even know!). And without "five-o-clock" just do nothing.
      1. KCA
        KCA 1 December 2022 09: 00
        +1
        Dry closets, yes, weight, otherwise you run out into the field at night, wadded pants down, PS, winter underwear, summer, sat down for 5 seconds - oh, beauty, the moon is shining, stars, romance, picked up the trousers and ran back, without fastening (snipers scared , winter 92-93, border of the Chechen and Ingush republics)
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 1 December 2022 16: 54
          +1
          Quote: KCA
          I picked up my trousers and ran back without fastening (they were scared by snipers, winter 92-93, border of the Chechen and Ingush republics)

          I didn’t go in wadded pants, the climate is not the same, but there were situations when the three of us “went into the bushes” (“for a pebble”). One is sitting, two are on the lookout. And so on in turn.
          And about snipers - the third from a match not to light me up is not a movie in which they also showed something like that later, but "grandfathers" who knew the price of such lighting.
          drinks
          1. KCA
            KCA 2 December 2022 00: 36
            +2
            They most likely just scared us away, nearby, at 200 meters there was a haystack, well, like a haystack, 100 meters long and 15 meters high, they were afraid of it, although when we got up a full-fledged camp, only once the guard fired, but raised all brigade, what the hell happened, neither with us nor on the other side of the thorn did anyone get hooked
  9. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 1 December 2022 07: 19
    +3
    The Germans on this day, December 1, can be answered simply. On December 1, 1896, Marshal of the Victory of the USSR Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov was born in Russia. There will be an order, the memory of the grandfathers who broke the back of the united fascist Europe, we will not shame. Europe, began to guess about something? Why are they all so excited? They don’t have Morozov yet!
  10. Shket53
    Shket53 1 December 2022 07: 23
    +2
    Hehe ... well, the fact that the great British scientists are distinguished by their "intelligence and ingenuity", and then the Greatest hacks from "Bild" distinguished themselves .... these magazines .. goodies, at least looked into the history of WWII, there near Moscow in In December, in 1941, they weighed the cradles, at 42 near Stalingrad they stuck them, at 43 they broke through the blockade near Leningrad ..... and there in their West they all at once turned into ..... gynecologists.
  11. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 1 December 2022 07: 31
    +3
    Oh, short, short historical memory of the Nazis.
  12. alexey alexeyev_2
    alexey alexeyev_2 1 December 2022 07: 32
    +1
    Ordinary people, in Greek. They would have surrendered at 41 near Moscow and Berlin would have been intact. And so yes .. Based on my experience
  13. Leader_Barmaleev
    Leader_Barmaleev 1 December 2022 07: 35
    +4
    Oh, it’s not in vain that the Pope remembered the Buryats, Tungus and other Chukchi with the Eskimos - they never have a cold general, but just a habitat. But we will not dissuade the Germans - the fact that they have a memory like a goop - is this their problem?
  14. Uprun
    Uprun 1 December 2022 07: 51
    +1
    They wrote what to write, in the yard on 01.12.2022/2013/40 - the calendar winter has begun. In XNUMX, in Crete, in broken English and gestures with a local, he talked, invited him to visit the Urals in winter for the sake of a joke, where it sometimes reaches - XNUMX. Greek answer - people penguin? And we live there, but Yakutia is a separate issue.
  15. vadim_ivanov
    vadim_ivanov 1 December 2022 08: 07
    0
    That is, the owners of winter and snow will throw difficulties and loss into problems, and sometimes they will help those who see winter and cold to win .. What logic ... like a German ... Mercedes is all right))))
  16. smart ass
    smart ass 1 December 2022 08: 40
    +1
    The Germans are specialists in winter victories! Especially the 6th army
  17. Guran33 Sergey
    Guran33 Sergey 1 December 2022 08: 52
    +2
    What an article, such a discussion ...The question is, who will freeze faster, a fighter in a padded jacket or in lace panties? wassat wassat laughing laughing
  18. APASUS
    APASUS 1 December 2022 08: 57
    +1
    The Russians do not have any shelters and shelters. Often there are not even trenches, the ground is frozen, it is impossible to dig them, so you have to spend the winter in the open air - under the blows of the Ukrainian military. There is no warm food, no tea, and the temperature there is already dropping to minus 15. They are forced to kindle fires, which betrays them.

    An interesting opinion about the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. And these frozen, hungry and not shod ......... won 5 regions from Ukraine. How did it happen? And one hundred thousand Ukrainian soldiers died from overheating in dugouts ..............?
  19. nellyjuri
    nellyjuri 1 December 2022 08: 58
    0
    Not understood. Why do journalists have warm offices, while the Bundestag offices are barely heated and the deputies are sitting with down jackets?
  20. Vasilyevich Pensioner
    Vasilyevich Pensioner 1 December 2022 09: 12
    +3
    The Russians do not have any shelters and shelters. Often there are not even trenches, the ground is frozen, it is impossible to dig them
    APU show that they have water in the trenches, and our land is frozen? Are ours in Siberia?
    German edition: winter will help the Ukrainian army to win
    It seems that the Germans did not have World War II veterans left, otherwise they would have told how winter "helped" them.
  21. Romanenko
    Romanenko 1 December 2022 09: 32
    +4
    Quote: "German edition: winter will help the Ukrainian army win"
    It is especially gratifying to read this, as they say, at the suggestion of the Germans, they must remember well how winter helps to defeat the Russian Army wassat
  22. Fat
    Fat 1 December 2022 10: 15
    +4

    Among the soldiers and officers of the Wehrmacht, this medal began to be ironically called the medal for "frozen meat".
    Are there any Cavaliers in Bild?
  23. uralex
    uralex 1 December 2022 11: 03
    0
    a glaring shortage of winter clothes, winter sleeping bags, tea and heating materials

    All Slavs look the same - so the author mixed everything up ...
  24. Egor53
    Egor53 1 December 2022 14: 05
    0
    The German tells the Russians "how to fight in the winter." Interesting.
  25. Shaman
    Shaman 1 December 2022 17: 17
    0
    Nemchura has phantom pains about winter. Remember, pike children, the 41st near Moscow and Stalingrad on the 43rd.
  26. Private SA
    Private SA 2 December 2022 02: 21
    0
    No, guys, General Frost and Colonel Zima are not a gift for anyone ...
    I repeat that I served near Khabarovsk.
    Quote: Vasilyevich Pensioner
    He served on Sakhalin, and there is no match for the Ukrainian weather. Minus to -20 -30 often with wind, maritime climate
    .
    Uzbeks wrapped their muzzles in guards with towels. I got frostbite myself.
    Quote from Nikoha2010
    Yes, but what about the lack of tea?

    Assigned to satisfaction. War-war, lunch according to the schedule ...
  27. Private SA
    Private SA 2 December 2022 03: 14
    0
    Quote: KCA
    Yesterday, 09: 00
    NEW

    +1
    Dry closets yes, weight, otherwise you run out into the field at night, cotton pants down, PS, winter underwear, summer, sat down for 5 seconds - oh, beauty, the moon is shining, stars, romance,

    You stomp vilely on the road at a communication session in a sheepskin coat to a latrine in an open field.
    You trample down your individual path in the snow and your individual hole. You put your sheepskin coat wider than the hole. All of the above in the quote.
    You make your relief by fertilizing the field,
    holding in his hands the newspaper "Pravda", taken in the Lenin room for "carrying out
    political information", but you go with a gun, we are a battalion commander from Afghanistan from the control room
    he forbade going out without an AK-74 and helmets (cartridges were not always issued), by the way, literate
    battalion commander was.
  28. Private SA
    Private SA 2 December 2022 03: 31
    0
    Delate, and even about the dysentery epidemic in the army communications training
    will have to remember.