US press: APU shells are received from different countries and some ammunition has a discrepancy between powder charges and howitzer types

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US press: APU shells are received from different countries and some ammunition has a discrepancy between powder charges and howitzer types

The American newspaper The New York Times published an article that talks about the problems of the Ukrainian military that arise with weapons supplied by the West. In the material, the authors John Ismay and Thomas Gibbons-Neff write that the Ukrainian military is not able to quickly repair military equipment that has been broken or damaged by Russian strikes and other weapon NATO pattern. First of all, this concerns various artillery systems and installations.

In an article by American authors, citing officials in the military structures of not only the United States, but also Ukraine, it is reported that at this stage the logistics for the repair of NATO equipment are very difficult. During evacuation from the battlefield (if such evacuation is possible), it (equipment) has to be exported from Ukraine mainly to Poland, where the repair and restoration capacities are already overloaded.



As reported, the repair of damaged NATO-made APU equipment "managed to become a priority for the US European command."

The NYT article quoted command spokesman Lt. Col. Dan Day as saying:

We are constantly working to ensure that the Ukrainian army has a complete support package.

According to the American lieutenant colonel, this package should remain "complete over time." It also includes assistance with repairs.

The same material says that the situation is complicated for the Armed Forces of Ukraine by the fact that they receive NATO-caliber ammunition from different countries. As a result, "some inconsistency between powder charges and types of howitzers" is revealed.

From the article:

Ukrainian soldiers discover this discrepancy already in combat. The fact is that some of the supplied ammunition with their features in terms of powder charges were not tested before being sent (to Ukraine). As a result, the Ukrainian army comes to the conclusion that certain ammunition leads to excessive wear of the barrels.

To replace worn-out barrels, damaged howitzers are sent back to Europe.

Work on howitzers is under the control of the US European Command in Stuttgart.

And, according to an American newspaper, the Ukrainian authorities would like to bring repair facilities closer to Ukrainian borders.

Foreign Policy Research Institute military analyst Rob Lee:

Not surprisingly, these weapons have problems with maintenance. They did not conduct technical testing (howitzers and ammunition), but immediately threw it all into battle.
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  1. +5
    26 November 2022 07: 28
    Again shells of the wrong caliber !!! ( with humor).
  2. +5
    26 November 2022 07: 35
    We are constantly working to ensure that the Ukrainian army has a complete support package.
    There really is no doubt about this. The United States is going out of their way to ensure that support is as complete as possible, forcing European suckers (according to the Americans) to be fully involved in this.
    Ukrainian authorities would like to bring repair facilities closer to Ukrainian borders.
    And on Ukrainian territory, it’s still smart enough not to deploy such capacities. It is clear that weapons from different NATO countries, although of the same standard, drag along a bunch of problems and not only wear and tear of barrels, repairs, but also maintenance of artillery systems and heavy equipment. Everything that works against the Armed Forces of Ukraine eventually works for us.
  3. +4
    26 November 2022 08: 04
    Oh, and who? So you have NATO standards in NATO countries exist only on paper? The farther into the forest - the thicker the partisans, NATO does not even directly fight with Russia, and how many interesting things have been revealed - and the standards are non-standard, and there are no stocks of weapons or ammunition and they cannot produce nichrome, in Europe from the word at all, in the USA from the word - in sufficient quantities...
    And so, yes, the most powerful army in the world, and if it’s all NATO, then you can even fight the rebels in slippers for a couple of years ...
  4. +4
    26 November 2022 08: 31
    The range of the projectile depends on the power of the charge. That is the accuracy of the shot. This is one.
    Secondly, yes, with excessive power, the barrel fails. But who will think about it?
    The main thing is to shoot a batch of shells and quickly get out of this place.
    Moreover, guns are conditionally given for nothing.
    Until recently, Russia was at war with its former Soviet industry, now with the military industry of the NATO countries.
    When the corona pandemic started, I immediately said that the world was tired without a big war. That the pandemic is just the beginning of the extermination of humanity. And during pandemics and wars, individual circles are profiting at an unthinkable pace. And of course they are against the cessation of the war.
    Shortly after World War II, two superpowers emerged in the world. USSR and USA. Although there was a great depression in the United States before the war. And the country did not stand out so much in the world. What helped the Americans to rush forward so much, captured German (and other European and Japanese) technologies and specialists, technologies of aliens that flew into America, or just printing green papers for the rapid development of industry, primarily military, is difficult to say for sure.
    The USSR is a large and cheap labor resource. And the lack of spending on the luxury of stuffing private pockets.
    Can Russia now gain a foothold in the arms race? There is a problem with the labor resource, and even then they began to work more for double pay, they fight for big money, and it was not so easy to get 300 thousand.
    The Ukrainians are still worse now. The economy without electricity and heat will not survive. How heating pipes will not withstand frost without heating.
    1. +1
      26 November 2022 10: 49
      On the subject that the United States before WWII did not stand out very much, this is still a slander. They rose strongly in WWII and had 400 tanks before WWII, how many tanks did they produce? They ended up with a lot of pershings and the tanks are not the worst, they had rocket-propelled grenade launchers earlier than ours, the United States built armored personnel carriers that we did not build, but take their shipbuilding? Over 100 aircraft carriers, mostly escorts of course.
  5. +2
    26 November 2022 08: 47
    The same material says that the situation is complicated for the Armed Forces of Ukraine by the fact that they receive NATO-caliber ammunition from different countries. As a result, "some inconsistency between powder charges and types of howitzers" is revealed.

    That is, there is a standard, but either the tolerances are large, or the standard is not respected. And the testing itself is already taking place in Ukraine.
  6. 0
    26 November 2022 09: 57
    Well, if they only wear out, and do not explode in the barrel. Or they fly closer or farther and thereby create a threat of friendly fire.
  7. +1
    26 November 2022 10: 32
    During evacuation from the battlefield (if such evacuation is possible), it (equipment) has to be exported from Ukraine mainly to Poland, where the repair and restoration capacities are already overloaded.

    They import and export, but the railways remain intact, like other transport infrastructure. Let the enemy carry weapons and ammunition to the death of our military.
  8. -1
    26 November 2022 12: 16
    Soon it will come to black powder, maybe someone has preserved from the time of the Northern War, the Swedes have some or other Swiss there.
    1. 0
      27 November 2022 22: 33
      Shostka, Sumy region = gunpowder factory. Produces smoky gunpowder, pyroxylin, combustible cartridges, fuses, etc., as well as a capsule plant nearby. Kazan and Shostka gunpowder factories were founded by Peter 1
  9. +1
    26 November 2022 16: 16
    There is only one way to deal with this - to make sure that there is no one to physically load these guns.