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The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry announced a meeting with Iranian experts on the issue of "inadmissibility of military supplies to Russian troops"

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The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry announced a meeting with Iranian experts on the issue of "inadmissibility of military supplies to Russian troops"

The head of the press service of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, Oleg Nikolenko, announced a meeting of Ukrainian and Iranian expert groups that discussed "issues of military-technical cooperation between Iran and Russia." According to Nikolenko, at the meeting, Ukrainian experts "told the Iranians about the inadmissibility of transferring Iranian weapons to Russian troops."


Speaker of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry:

An expert meeting with the Iranian side took place. I cannot give you all the details, but I can say one thing: we continue to take tough measures to exclude the supply of Iranian weapons Russia.

Recall that earlier in Iran they recognized the fact of the supply of drones to the Russian Federation, however, noting that this was even before the start of the Russian special operation and in small quantities. The Ukrainian side claims that Iran is allegedly supplying hundreds of drones to Russia and is even going to supply ballistic missiles with a target range of up to 700 km. At the same time, Kyiv cannot reasonably explain why it interferes in the issues of cooperation between other countries? Or is there some kind of treaty that prohibits Russia and Iran from trading with each other what the states want?

Apparently, Kyiv is so confident in its informational infallibility and global omnipotence that it seriously believes that it has the right to make claims against the same Iran. Moreover, Kyiv has convinced itself that only it can supply weapons in the world.

Meanwhile, the foreign press is discussing the recent visit to the Ukrainian capital of British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak. It is said that Sunak "convinced Zelensky of the need to soften the negotiating positions towards Russia." Zelensky's office has not yet commented on these publications.
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  1. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 22 November 2022 18: 52
    +15
    At the same time, Kyiv cannot reasonably explain why it interferes in the issues of cooperation of other countries?

    If the Sumerian-Ukrainians are so principled, then let them first refuse supplies from the USA and the West, and then raise a screech about Iran's cooperation with Russia.
    1. SlavaS
      SlavaS 22 November 2022 19: 35
      +10
      Here about something else, supposedly only the United States has the right to decide who and with whom and with what to trade, fight, etc.
      1. Plate
        Plate 22 November 2022 21: 32
        +5
        Yes, here it is no longer the United States, but Ukraine has the right. They have the right to assign themselves supplies from the United States, they have the right to prohibit supplies from Iran to Russia and from Russia to Iran, they have the right to demand NATO intervention, and they have the right to kill citizens of the country of the same NATO. How did it happen...
      2. kit88
        kit88 22 November 2022 21: 47
        +7
        Quote: SlavaS
        Here about something else, supposedly only the United States has the right to decide who and with whom and with what to trade, fight, etc.

        And this is where we are to blame. They destroyed their country and built themselves into a unipolar world ruled by the United States. And now we are surprised.
        At first glance, it certainly sounds wild, as Ukraine dictates to the Persians what they can do and what not. But after all, Bandera’s supporters rather purely warn Iran that, of course, it can do whatever it wants, but then let it not be surprised at the economic sanctions imposed by the West.
        As with the "ceiling for oil". Of course, you can buy from Russia at its price, but we will not insure anything, and no one will sail anywhere without insurance.
        This is the unipolar world.
        1. KCA
          KCA 22 November 2022 23: 54
          +3
          Sanctions on Iran? And what, are the Persians really scared? Yes, sanctions have been imposed on them since the 50s, and they impose sanctions on them, Russian transportation of oil and gas, oddly enough, goes forward and with a song, shipping insurers are not only Lloyd, and not all buyers bother with insurance, the savings are not small, but Turkey, for example, does the insurance of oil tankers annoy? It’s cheaper for them to send a couple of ships as an escort and escort tankers from Novoros
        2. ilya.muromczev2013
          ilya.muromczev2013 23 November 2022 03: 57
          +1
          And to hell with it, with this unipolar world. The same Iran has been living under sanctions for many years, and it lives quite well for itself. Russia is not Iran. And, she did not fit into any unipolar world - he does not accept her, realizing that she will destroy him. And - in the end - it will be so ...
    2. DrMadfisher_2
      DrMadfisher_2 23 November 2022 03: 35
      0
      And again, as old as the world - and why are we?
    3. Former soldier
      Former soldier 23 November 2022 23: 02
      +1
      If the Sumerian-Ukrainians are so principled, then let them first refuse supplies from the USA and the West, and then raise a screech about Iran's cooperation with Russia.

      In such cases, liberals say: "You don't understand - that's different." These deliveries are democratic. sad
  2. Petr_Koldunov
    Petr_Koldunov 22 November 2022 18: 54
    +9
    That's right. Ukraine is the main world power. And only she decides who has the right to sell what to whom ... The president there is such that he will scold whom he likes. And the Iranians should be drawn to the line - if only the kuleba would not get angry at them ...
    1. neworange88
      neworange88 22 November 2022 19: 28
      +2
      And in order not to depend on anyone, on any behind-the-scenes negotiations, we must do everything ourselves. Conditional Geranium-3.

      . If Moscow has indeed launched the production of Geraniums, then the situation for the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Ze-team looks much more dangerous than the supply of Shahids from Iran, which Arestovich points out. Moreover, according to British intelligence MI-6, the Russian army has already trained a large number of groups of UAV operators, the kamikaze drones themselves have been put on the conveyor.
      ...........
      But that's not all. A variety of Western sources reported that a deep modernization of kamikaze drones is already being prepared in Russia (we are waiting, therefore, Geran-3 - author). The next version will not only be faster and more maneuverable, but almost silent. And can carry more explosives. It is possible that drones with additional reconnaissance optics will be put on stream to destroy fast-moving targets. The very thing that our army needs.

      https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/349403/
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 November 2022 19: 44
      +4
      Quote: Peter_Koldunov
      The president there is such that he will scold anyone he likes.

      Well, if all the presidents and prime ministers go to their preso-drug addict to bow and kiss the hand, then you know the "big giraffe", it can also impose swear words on Scholz and Macron, it can also prohibit trading with Iran - "they are always bedbugs, albeit small, but very smelly.
  3. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 22 November 2022 18: 55
    +5
    It seems that all the hand-spreaders in Ukraine are hooked on white powder and booze.
    1. Anton Boldakov
      Anton Boldakov 22 November 2022 18: 59
      +8
      No. It's simple - they feel the power behind their backs. So the smallest and worthless gopnik is able to show off in front of people and be rude to them - if he knows that his friends will cover him. In addition, such a tone of conversation should show Iran that Ukraine is "on horseback" and is winning.
      1. Alexander 3
        Alexander 3 22 November 2022 19: 05
        +2
        After communicating with Russian diplomats, the Iranians know with whom they communicate, they know the value of their words and claims.
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 22 November 2022 19: 14
        -6
        Quote: Anton Boldakov
        It's simple - they feel the power behind their backs.

        Everything is correct. Even China has partially suspended purchases of Russian oil pending details on the price cap.
        Friendly China behaves for the Russian Federation in the same way as friendly Turkey.
        1. neworange88
          neworange88 22 November 2022 19: 25
          +6
          I don’t know how friendly anyone is, but China’s economy is largely tied to the United States. Why should they sacrifice their interests, put themselves at risk for us? Everyone has their own interests, according to which China, Turkey, and any other country act. There is an interest in China to some extent to support Russia in the confrontation with the United States, in order to prevent the dominance of the United States, and it follows it. But up to certain limits, dictated by the balance of its interests in relations with one side or another.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 22 November 2022 19: 44
            -9
            Quote from: neworange88
            but China's economy is largely tied to the United States.

            Oh, I've been saying this for years. But back in January, the Zaputinites assured me that China and I are partners inseparable. Only now it turned out that China prefers the position from above .....
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            2. Plate
              Plate 22 November 2022 21: 36
              0
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              But back in January, the Zaputinites assured me that China and I are partners inseparable.

              I don’t know if they are such personalities or not, but they once told me on the same site that if China cuts off trade with the United States, they will come back, while China will not have anything special. Apparently, such comrades must have someone in the world who can spit to defeat the United States for once, but at the same time does not do so for some incomprehensible reasons of his own. First it was Russia, now China. Soon, I suppose, the DPRK will take this position.
            3. DrMadfisher_2
              DrMadfisher_2 23 November 2022 03: 39
              +1
              We may be zaputintsy, but you are clearly a zaputin
        2. topol717
          topol717 22 November 2022 19: 27
          +1
          This is world politics, and there are no and cannot be friends, there are only interests.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 22 November 2022 19: 41
            -6
            Quote from: topol717
            This is world politics, and there are no and cannot be friends, there are only interests.

            I'm wondering, does Russia have interests? At least in terms of domestic politics? Sberbank has recognized Crimea? am
            1. topol717
              topol717 22 November 2022 22: 04
              0
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Russia has interests?

              About the interests of Russia, the question is at the wrong address, there is Naryshkin, there is Peskov and Lavrov, so address them.
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Sberbank has recognized Crimea?

              Did you not understand about Sberbank at all? what did he have to admit?
              And how was he supposed to do it?
              I have always believed that this is a commercial organization, the main task of which is to earn money, and not to engage in politics, especially since no one asks Sberbank to engage in politics.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 22 November 2022 22: 15
                +1
                Quote from: topol717
                Did you not understand about Sberbank at all? what did he have to admit?

                Crimea. Ask how many branches of Sberbank have opened in Crimea since February 24.
                1. topol717
                  topol717 22 November 2022 23: 26
                  0
                  Yakutia, ask how many Sberbank branches have opened since January 24.
                  You can also list other areas.
                  And Sberbank left Ukraine and Kazakhstan, and successfully sold its business, it seems, in Turkey. Maybe there were changes somewhere else, I don’t know everything, and what are these statistics for ??? the fact that on all fronts there is a compression of business??? Or about what?
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 23 November 2022 06: 30
                    0
                    Quote from: topol717
                    the fact that on all fronts there is a compression of business??? Or about what?

                    Not a single branch of Sberbank has been opened in Crimea since 2014.
                    Quote from: topol717
                    successfully sold his business in Turkey
                    What is the success?
                    1. Former soldier
                      Former soldier 23 November 2022 23: 14
                      0
                      Not a single branch of Sberbank has been opened in Crimea since 2014.

                      You know very well why. Crimea was not left without banking services. And those banks that work there cannot suffer from sanctions. "Business is a penny." Or did Sberbank or some other Serious bank need to climb into the stake voluntarily in full health?
                      1. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 24 November 2022 06: 55
                        0
                        Quote: Former soldier
                        Or from the principle

                        Do you climb to your wife through the window in the bedroom? wink
                        February 24, all masks dropped. But for some reason, Sberbank is again in no hurry to go to Crimea. Like Megafon, and many others.
              2. DymOk_v_dYmke
                DymOk_v_dYmke 23 November 2022 01: 09
                +1
                Quote from: topol717
                I have always believed that this is a commercial organization, the main task of which is to earn money, and not to engage in politics, especially since no one asks Sberbank to engage in politics.

                It is high time for the Sber to return the status of the state.
                1. topol717
                  topol717 23 November 2022 08: 39
                  0
                  This is for the communists, they love to take away and appropriate.
                  In general, 51% of the shares of Sberbank belong to the state. and the status of a savings joint-stock company (joint-stock company) there are no other statuses under the law.
                  1. DymOk_v_dYmke
                    DymOk_v_dYmke 23 November 2022 11: 44
                    0
                    Quote from: topol717
                    This is for the communists, they love to take away and appropriate.
                    In general, 51% of the shares of Sberbank belong to the state. and the status of a savings joint-stock company (joint-stock company) there are no other statuses under the law.

                    It is a pity that you do not know about state unitary organizations.
                    Commercial banks are stupid, no one bothers them.
                    As for "take away and divide", - the result of a liberoid headwash.
                    Liberals in terms of "take away and divide" a master class can give.
                    For 30 years they have been doing this, taking away from everyone and dividing among their own.
                    1. topol717
                      topol717 23 November 2022 12: 25
                      0
                      Once again 49%, Sberbank is not owned by the state, what to do with these investors? just send??? Further, what will be the goal of this unitary bank? make money or what?
                      1. DymOk_v_dYmke
                        DymOk_v_dYmke 23 November 2022 16: 27
                        0
                        Quote from: topol717
                        Further, what will be the goal of this unitary bank? make money or what?

                        Exactly the same as it was before corporatization.
                        Ensuring the posting of all types of social payments, lending to everything that is being built, created and maintained at the expense of the state budget.
                        Well, and the formation of the lower bracket for consumer loans.
                        Variants of "soft nationalization" have long been outlined by economists.
                        There are no technical obstacles provided there is political will.
                        There is none. And the bourgeois elite stuffing their pockets cannot be.
                        Draw your own conclusions. hi
                      2. topol717
                        topol717 23 November 2022 16: 44
                        0
                        What you describe can be successfully done and is now being done by commercial banks. At the same time, these banks can even compete with each other. And this is a normal market approach.
                        And here is your phrase
                        Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                        lending to everything that is being built, created and maintained at the expense of the state budget

                        Are you going to finance the budget? I thought we had this min.fin. is engaged. Distribution is handled by the Treasury. so that all the necessary structures are now in place and working.
                      3. DymOk_v_dYmke
                        DymOk_v_dYmke 23 November 2022 18: 26
                        0
                        Quote from: topol717
                        Are you going to finance the budget?

                        Roughly speaking, yes. INTEREST-FREE.
                        Today, funds allocated under state programs are deposited in affiliated banks and reach the executors in a castrated form.
                        If the task is not completed, the funds are returned to the budget, but affiliated banks manage to earn interest during this time by issuing non-purpose loans. So I understand the situation. hi
        3. gsev
          gsev 22 November 2022 20: 06
          -1
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Even China has partially suspended purchases of Russian oil pending details on the price cap.

          In China, the production of energy resources has increased this year.
        4. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 22 November 2022 21: 26
          +1
          Dear, do not spoil the reputation of the Military Review by spreading unverified information from Bloomberg on it. Port of Kozmino now, a screen from Marinetrafic. Carefully look at the flag of the tanker, what does it look like? Engage in criticism of the government, you do better there. And I advise you to apologize for inaccurate information.
        5. Revolver
          Revolver 22 November 2022 23: 11
          +1
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Friendly China behaves for the Russian Federation in the same way as friendly Turkey.

          With such "friends" and enemies do not.
        6. ilya.muromczev2013
          ilya.muromczev2013 23 November 2022 04: 02
          0
          And rightly so, in the interests of their peoples. BUT! And they will not listen to the United States 100% - this is absolutely not in their interests, because they understand that after Russia there will be China ...
        7. 28st region
          28st region 23 November 2022 05: 13
          +2
          I live in the Amur region, there is a pipe nearby, which is affectionately called the Power of China, as it worked at full capacity, it still works.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 23 November 2022 06: 34
            0
            Quote: 28st region
            how it worked at full capacity and works.

            I was talking about oil, not gas! wink
            1. 28st region
              28st region 23 November 2022 08: 49
              +1
              And gas goes and oil.
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Quote: 28st region
              how it worked at full capacity and works.

              I was talking about oil, not gas! wink

              Acquaintances on pipelines in protection work, have called. We looked from where, the place of work, sent back, the military commissar blah blah snitched. There is a directive to whom to call to fulfill.
              The oil pipeline is called "Eastern Siberia-Pacific Ocean".
              The Ministry of Emergency Situations annually conducts exercises on Zeya to localize oil spills, they are arranged on the shore, just opposite the dacha. They put up booms to catch fish themselves, yes .... well, you understand.
      3. MMX
        MMX 22 November 2022 20: 05
        0
        Quote: Anton Boldakov
        No. It's simple - they feel the power behind their backs. So the smallest and worthless gopnik is able to show off in front of people and be rude to them - if he knows that his friends will cover him. In addition, such a tone of conversation should show Iran that Ukraine is "on horseback" and is winning.


        They should not be considered small dummy.
        They were given a lot of weapons. They were trained. They were given data. But they fight themselves and proved their worth on the battlefield. Therefore, they can quite afford to speak from the position of a player who is well-founded in his competence. It is a fact.
        1. seamen2
          seamen2 22 November 2022 21: 13
          +4
          I am just curious. wealthy Ones on the battlefield. OK. a player who is strong in his competence.
          AND HOW THEY WILL ATTACK IRAN IN CASE OF WHAT, IN ORDER TO PUNISH THE CLEAN PERSIANS ON THIS SAME BATTLE FIELD. HOW??
          1. MMX
            MMX 22 November 2022 21: 50
            0
            Quote from seamen2
            I am just curious. wealthy Ones on the battlefield. OK. a player who is strong in his competence.
            AND HOW THEY WILL ATTACK IRAN IN CASE OF WHAT, IN ORDER TO PUNISH THE CLEAN PERSIANS ON THIS SAME BATTLE FIELD. HOW??


            And someone somewhere said that Ukraine was going, in which case, to attack Iran??????????
            1. seamen2
              seamen2 22 November 2022 23: 13
              0
              you only talked about what pisdodelnye warriors they are. and only about this.
              1. MMX
                MMX 23 November 2022 18: 36
                0
                Quote from seamen2
                you only talked about what pisdodelnye warriors they are. and only about this.


                What are you talking about sick? Point out where I said that the Ukrainians "in which case they will attack Iran" ??
                1. seamen2
                  seamen2 23 November 2022 19: 56
                  0
                  And what else can they do to the Persians, following your own logic. about viability on the battlefield. about the player in his competence. that is, the war again.
                  Well, you didn’t write about other methods besides these. before scribbling comments, they would have learned to formulate their pearls or something .. they wouldn’t have to make excuses later.
          2. Revolver
            Revolver 23 November 2022 01: 08
            0
            Quote from seamen2
            AND HOW THEY WILL ATTACK IRAN IN CASE OF WHAT, IN ORDER TO PUNISH THE CLEAN PERSIANS ON THIS SAME BATTLE FIELD. HOW??

            They dug up the Black Sea - they will also dig a canal to the Persian Gulf, and there they will hit it with their sea drones! Or, alternatively, they will send drones around Africa.lol
  4. Ulan.1812
    Ulan.1812 22 November 2022 18: 56
    +7
    I hope the Persians sent these insolent people far and for a long time.
    1. petroglyph
      petroglyph 22 November 2022 19: 03
      +5
      For some reason, the question immediately arises - why is Iran discussing something with them at all ?? Or is there something we don't know?
      1. topol717
        topol717 22 November 2022 19: 31
        0
        Quote: Petroglyph
        Why is Iran discussing anything with them at all?? Or is there something we don't know?

        Iran? of course, the cost of "shaheda" for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as possible preferences, and ways of paying for drones. Maybe they wanted to buy ballistic missiles or other weapons.
        1. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 23 November 2022 01: 21
          0
          Quote from: topol717
          Iran? of course, the cost of "shaheda" for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as possible preferences, and ways of paying for drones. Maybe they wanted to buy ballistic missiles or other weapons.

          Iran is just making money, not playing politics.
          Stripes for Ukraine would have been bought themselves, but their own sanctions do not allow.
          And for the purchase of bucks by Ukraine from Iran, they will quietly print as much as they need.
    2. Nexcom
      Nexcom 22 November 2022 19: 05
      +4
      Why send? It's rude and just shaking the air. Let the Persians better help us put the production of cheap and efficient UAVs on stream - this will be a real answer to Banderva's greyhound.
      1. Ulan.1812
        Ulan.1812 22 November 2022 19: 12
        +3
        Quote: Nexcom
        Why send? It's rude and just shaking the air. Let the Persians better help us put the production of cheap and efficient UAVs on stream - this will be a real answer to Banderva's greyhound.

        This is of course correct, but one does not interfere with the other.
      2. neworange88
        neworange88 22 November 2022 19: 13
        +4
        According to rumors, there are already some progress.
        . British intelligence MI-6 transmitted new information to the office of the President [of Ukraine], which shocked the Ze-team. This was reported by the independent telegram community with reference to its informants in the Kyiv junta. According to information received by the British from Moscow, the first drone assembly plants have already been built in the Russian Federation. Moreover, pre-series production of various types of drones has already begun. “The Kremlin has transferred entire aviation and missile design bureaus for these purposes, which are improving Iranian models and setting up their own production lines, one of these was the Lancet loitering ammunition,” scribble experts coming out. relying on plums from Bankova. They also report that Zaluzhny is constantly calling the Pentagon and complaining about Russian killer drones. Bandera Ataman General No. 1 asks his American boss Lloyd Austin, the US Secretary of Defense, for an effective antidote. He, of course, promises to come up with something, but to begin with, he suggested that independent trade union propagandists cheat on the Lancet in the media space - they say, the devil is not as terrible as he is painted.

        https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/353014/
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 22 November 2022 19: 17
          +6
          Well, it goes without saying - how can you screw it up in the media space? This is the first thing Svidomo have. laughing
          If there is no solution to the problem, then everyone must be convinced that the problem is garbage, not at all terrible. Lucy will try. laughing
        2. haron
          haron 22 November 2022 20: 56
          0
          Quote from: neworange88
          British intelligence MI-6 transmitted new information to the office of the President [of Ukraine], which shocked the Ze-team.

          Quote from: neworange88
          Zaluzhny constantly calls the Pentagon and complains about Russian killer drones. Bandera General Ataman No. 1 asks his American boss Lloyd Austin,

          Why, the arrogant Saxons are so right with a capital letter and wrote "Bandera general-ataman No. 1 asks u ...) further along Freud.
          You either tear your vest or tuck your shirt into your shorts. And then complete dissonance from the first to the last meaning of your message.
      3. Sergey Aleksandrovich
        Sergey Aleksandrovich 22 November 2022 20: 05
        +2
        Sometimes you really need to send so that they don’t get impudent and don’t sit on your neck.
      4. seamen2
        seamen2 22 November 2022 21: 20
        +2
        *Only giaours can make noise like that! But the faithful - no: saying goodbye to the offender, he would politely thank him for the wise conversation, and when he came home, he would sharpen his sword properly *.
        V. Pikul *Bayazet*.
    3. Cat Alexandrovich
      Cat Alexandrovich 22 November 2022 19: 36
      +1
      There is not a word about this in the note! What did the Iranians say to the Ukrainians?
    4. gsev
      gsev 22 November 2022 20: 04
      -2
      Quote: Ulan.1812
      I hope the Persians sent these insolent people far and for a long time.

      It depends on what Israel, the United States and Ukraine have offered Iran. If Iran is offered assistance in supporting the rights of the Houthis and the Shiite oppressed minority in Sunni countries, then the negotiations will move into a constructive direction.
      1. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 22 November 2022 21: 35
        +1
        [quote=gsev]It depends that Israel, USA and Ukraine offered to Iran. [/ quote] Israel offered something good to its worst enemy? Boo ha ha!!!! Do not make people laugh, dear .. You need to be a complete woodpecker from a school for mentally retarded children. to believe this bullshit...
        1. gsev
          gsev 23 November 2022 17: 38
          0
          Quote: 30 vis
          Israel offered something good to its worst enemy?

          Did Israel have problems with Iran before the Islamic Revolution? With the emergence of ISIS in Syria, Israel had a good chance to coordinate with Iran against ISIS and the Palestinians. Russia, after 10 years of thoughtful work, by about 2010, overcame interethnic hostility in its state, which was inflated by Yeltsin and his clique. The IRGC in many respects consists of Afghan mercenaries in many respects. It seems to me that if they are not bombed once again, then they will not adhere to anti-Semitism.
          1. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 23 November 2022 18: 46
            0
            Quote: gsev
            It seems to me that if they are not bombed once again, then they will not adhere to anti-Semitism.

            Look at the situation from the other side - No anti-Iranian sentiment, no anti-Israeli sentiment! And why do you label anti-Semitism to all anti-Israeli sentiments? Israel's politics is one thing, the Semites are another.
            1. gsev
              gsev 23 November 2022 21: 00
              0
              Quote: 30 vis
              anti-Israeli sentiment labeled as anti-Semitism? Israel's politics is one thing, the Semites are another.
              If the Israeli-Jewish state bombs Iranian troops and kills Iranian scientists, then in my opinion the Jews will be hated. I doubt that Muslim or Palestinian citizens of Israel will be the subject of hatred, even if they are loyal or devoted to Israel. Therefore, my term anti-Semitism is justified. In addition, I believe that the inhabitants of Iran and some neighboring countries often treat Arabs more negatively than Jews.
              1. Xnumx vis
                Xnumx vis 23 November 2022 21: 40
                +1
                Quote: gsev
                If an Israeli-Jewish state bombs Iranian troops and kills Iranian scientists, then in my opinion Jews will be hated

                Government policy is one thing. Nationality is different. Why should I hate any particular Jew? He works in the same way, grieves in the same way, rejoices, loves his woman, children, mother. And he loves his country. There are a huge number of Russians living outside of Russia .. And many do not consider Russia to be their homeland. Ukraine, for example .. So the Jews live all over the world and not all have Israel as their homeland. .
                1. gsev
                  gsev 24 November 2022 14: 26
                  0
                  Quote: 30 vis
                  Why should I hate any particular Jew?

                  The logic of anti-Symetism is often foolish. But anti-Semitism exists and it is not yet seen that this phenomenon is decreasing. With the emergence of the State of Israel, the attitude of the Muslim world towards the Jews deteriorated greatly. Over the past half century, the Jewish diaspora in Afghanistan, Yemen, and North Africa has shrunk or practically disappeared. In my opinion, this is connected with the policy of Israel. In the absence of living contacts between the inhabitants of Yemen or Afghanistan with the Jews there, if not hostility, then wariness towards the Jews in these countries will grow. Here is another example of how Israel's policy of supporting aliyah provokes the growth of anti-Semitism.
                  1. Xnumx vis
                    Xnumx vis 24 November 2022 16: 14
                    0
                    The same is true in relation to Russians in Russia ...
                    1. gsev
                      gsev 24 November 2022 21: 05
                      +1
                      Quote: 30 vis
                      The same is true in relation to Russians in Russia ...

                      No. Jews know how to adapt to the world around them while maintaining their Jewishness. Only the Chinese and Pashtuns were able to assimilate them in such a way that non-Afghan Jews consider Afghan Jews to be Jews, and these Jews do not admit their Jewish roots to anyone and profess Islam. Russians usually quickly assimilate in an alien environment. Although I, who was somewhat hostile towards Putin until 2014, made me a supporter of Putin and forced me to regularly vote not only for Putin but also for United Russia, which I never did before 2014. The Russophobia that the West has created in the world against the Russians is also a confirmation of the fact that enmity towards the state is inevitably transferred to the people living in this state. And it is better for a person to protect his human dignity, if possible, by fulfilling the will of the state.
    5. isv000
      isv000 22 November 2022 21: 36
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      Quote: Ulan.1812
      I hope the Persians sent these insolent people far and for a long time.

      The question is: why did the Persians communicate with giaurs at all ?! To plant politeness with ingots - it doesn’t take long to move yourself closer, closer to the exit ...
    6. 28st region
      28st region 23 November 2022 05: 14
      +1
      They don't send anyone. They smile and nod, they answer all the arrivals - this is not an easy question, we need to think about it for years.
  5. Anton Boldakov
    Anton Boldakov 22 November 2022 18: 57
    +4
    It is said that Sunak “persuaded Zelensky of the need to soften his negotiating positions with regard to Russia” - this is the answer why he calmly heads to Kyiv. By the way, for some reason, all the arrivals of foreign politicians to Kyiv are constantly accompanied by the desire of these politicians "to start peace negotiations with Moscow."
  6. ximkim
    ximkim 22 November 2022 18: 58
    +1
    Such a meeting usually does not end well.
  7. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
    Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 22 November 2022 18: 58
    +7
    Loudly, to the whole world: We strongly demand to stop the supply of any weapons to Russia!
    Quietly: Can you put it on for us? For money ?!?! You ask America for money ....
  8. tatarin1972
    tatarin1972 22 November 2022 19: 06
    +4
    It is not harmful to want, it is harmful not to want! Did they believe in their own global significance?
  9. Igor Pushkino
    Igor Pushkino 22 November 2022 19: 06
    +5
    I don’t understand, okay, we, but why is Iran making excuses? Some kind of nonsense, the under-state behaves like an elephant in a china shop ...
    1. My doctor
      My doctor 22 November 2022 19: 18
      -10
      Quote: Igor Pushkino
      I don’t understand, okay, we, but why is Iran making excuses?

      Russia is a de facto aggressor, and the supply of weapons to the aggressor is prohibited under international law, unlike the defending side.
      1. Ulan.1812
        Ulan.1812 22 November 2022 19: 25
        +7
        Quote: MyVrach
        Quote: Igor Pushkino
        I don’t understand, okay, we, but why is Iran making excuses?

        Russia is a de facto aggressor, and the supply of weapons to the aggressor is prohibited under international law, unlike the defending side.

        In fact, only the UN Security Council and not NATO or the EU can recognize a country as an aggressor.
        Therefore, the majority of the world does not recognize Russia as an aggressor.
        The Turks are buying S-400 from us. Most countries in the world trade with us. Including those who recognized us as the aggressor. England is still buying Russian oil. Like Germany, Austria and others.
        1. My doctor
          My doctor 22 November 2022 20: 50
          -2
          Quote: Ulan.1812
          In fact, only the UN Security Council and not NATO or the EU can recognize a country as an aggressor.

          Article 1
          Aggression is the use of armed force by a state against the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of another state, or in any other way incompatible with the Charter of the United Nations, as established in this definition.

          The presence in the Security Council of Russia with the right of veto does not make it possible to legally fix it under Article 2. And if Russia itself declares that this is a war, then perhaps there is a mechanism for automatic recognition. And then, at the international level, they will be able to oblige everyone to observe the blockade regime, regardless of the desire of individual members of the international community.
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 22 November 2022 20: 38
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        Quote: MyVrach
        Russia is a de facto aggressor, and the supply of weapons to the aggressor is prohibited under international law

        Yes, but there is still no state of war between the participants! wink
        1. Ulan.1812
          Ulan.1812 22 November 2022 21: 08
          +2
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Quote: MyVrach
          Russia is a de facto aggressor, and the supply of weapons to the aggressor is prohibited under international law

          Yes, but there is still no state of war between the participants! wink

          Exactly, and Ukraine is in no hurry to declare war on Russia.
      3. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 22 November 2022 21: 37
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        Quote: MyVrach
        Russia is a de facto aggressor, and the supply of weapons to the aggressor is prohibited under international law, unlike the defending side.

        Ukraine SvydozhidoBandera Nazi state in fact.
  10. Bulgarian
    Bulgarian 22 November 2022 19: 13
    +4
    And who said that it's true CIPSO believe yourself do not respect.
  11. parusnik
    parusnik 22 November 2022 19: 16
    +7
    The Iranian side listened and said that there would be no more. laughing laughing laughing
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 22 November 2022 19: 19
      +6
      .... and crossed herself three times in confirmation. lol
  12. evgen1221
    evgen1221 22 November 2022 19: 21
    +1
    And the Iranians would take and endure such impudence, and be seriously puzzled by the supplies.
  13. Alexga
    Alexga 22 November 2022 19: 22
    +6
    And when was that? Here is what they wrote later: “Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir Abdollahian called that representatives of Kyiv did not come to a meeting with Iranian experts on the alleged continued supply of drones and other types of weapons by Tehran to Russia. Tasnim agency reports.
    According to the Iranian foreign minister, the foreign ministers of Iran and Ukraine agreed to meet on neutral territory, in one of the European countries. Dmitry Kuleba promised to provide evidence of the use of Iranian drones by Russia in the Ukrainian conflict.
    "Our delegation went there, however, unfortunately, in the 90th minute of waiting, the Ukrainian delegation did not appear," Abdollahian stated. November, and today is already November 20221105.
  14. Prisoner
    Prisoner 22 November 2022 19: 23
    +2
    Declared unacceptable. winked And why are they silent about where they were sent by Iranian specialists?
    1. topol717
      topol717 22 November 2022 19: 34
      +2
      You were told not to wait. There was someone to send. specialists from Nezalezhnaya did not appear.
      1. Prisoner
        Prisoner 22 November 2022 19: 42
        +1
        Nobody told me anything about the absence. It's not in the article either. what Can you re-read? hi
    2. 28st region
      28st region 23 November 2022 05: 18
      +1
      I wrote above. They have a different mentality, they don't send anywhere. They smile, nod, and under the dressing gown they twist the figs. They say that the issue cannot be resolved individually, you need to consult with the senior boss, and so one hundred steps of the bosses or in a circle. May last for years. And you won't hold back.
      1. YOUR
        YOUR 23 November 2022 05: 44
        +1
        Some kind of childhood from ukrov. They came running why are you friends with him, he is bad, he didn’t give me candy, don’t be friends with him.
        If so, are we buying these missiles from Iran, so what? Ordinary business of two business entities.
  15. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 22 November 2022 19: 24
    +3
    I do not understand these "dances with tambourines" -
    ukram West piles all kinds of weapons and ammunition,
    and we keep denying: "no one helps us, Iran does not supply drones" ...
    Are we still "saving face" in front of someone?
    negative
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      1. 28st region
        28st region 23 November 2022 05: 32
        +1
        I can explain, although a normal person himself should understand.
        Just our army and shows its power. Approximately 12% of the entire army of the Russian Federation is fighting against the whole state, not just fighting, but conducting offensive operations. The offensives of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are repulsed mainly by rocket and artillery fire, and not by hand-to-hand combat. The opposite side, on the contrary, with its numerical superiority, is trying to realize it, but it does not work out. Until the advanced positions reach the numerical superiority ends.
  16. Comrade
    Comrade 22 November 2022 19: 25
    +1
    Why is this show?
    Sunak should not go to Kyiv, but to Washington, where he should talk about “softening the position” of Ukraine.
    Which now lives at the expense of American money.
    And as you know, whoever pays orders the music.
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 22 November 2022 19: 37
      +1
      The money is American, and the "independent" elite is held by the British secret services by the seat. Everything is so complicated in this world. winked
  17. Saboteur_Navy
    Saboteur_Navy 22 November 2022 19: 44
    +1
    Let me remind Ukraine-USA will not get involved in a nuclear conflict even if it strikes at Warsaw ...
    All her attempts will now end sadly for Ukraine, Ukraine will lose statehood ...
    Therefore, before it is too late, a coup must take place in Ukraine, everything is with Zelensky for Ukraine! Throw off Zelensky, give Russia its Lands, Give up NATO, otherwise you will lose everything!
  18. Fangaro
    Fangaro 22 November 2022 20: 01
    -1
    If so in the original source, then it turns out that nothing can be delivered to Russia under any pretext. So? Is everything possible from everyone in Ukraine?
    Regardless of our country's WTO membership...
    Does the representative of Ukraine set the rules in the WTO?
    In addition, there are private companies. Will Ukraine also oblige them not to trade with private companies in Russia?
    Ah, Ukraine...
    It was a republic, a country.
    It has become a bone of contention.
  19. Fangaro
    Fangaro 22 November 2022 20: 19
    -1
    Let everyone know that there will be a meeting.
    Set a meeting time and place.
    Come to the meeting point, but do not enter.
    Wait and watch when the opponent either falls asleep or leaves.
    If he left, tell everyone that they did not agree on anything.
    That an hour and a half has passed and the opponent left, as he came, there is no need to tell anyone.
  20. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 22 November 2022 20: 37
    0
    And why don't our parasites meet and talk to arms suppliers in 404?
  21. orionvitt
    orionvitt 22 November 2022 21: 27
    0
    announced a meeting of Ukrainian and Iranian expert groups that discussed "issues of military-technical cooperation between Iran and Russia."
    Apparently, "Iranian experts", from the same Soros deck, have a very conditional relationship to Iran. Like Tikhanovskaya to Belarus. So they understood each other. laughing
  22. iouris
    iouris 22 November 2022 23: 50
    0
    What about buying something from Iran? There is no money... And to demand money from Scholz?
  23. Jsem_CZEKO68
    Jsem_CZEKO68 23 November 2022 00: 04
    +1
    Baanderovcům evidentně dochází dech a nutně potřebují pauzu, ale tu nesmí dostat. Domluvu o míru jen předstírají, aby získali čas. Mám obavu, že jsou schopni použít i chemické jedovaté látky vyvíjené společně s USA!
    1. 28st region
      28st region 23 November 2022 05: 35
      +1
      In principle, a couple of seconds are needed to translate into Russian
      The Baanders are clearly out of breath and need a breather, but they can't get it. They only pretend to make a peace agreement to buy time. I'm afraid that they are also capable of using chemical poisons developed jointly with the United States!

      But still, in the future, try to write in Russian, after all, this is a Russian-language site.
  24. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 23 November 2022 08: 07
    0
    It is said that Sunak "convinced Zelensky of the need to soften negotiating positions with regard to Russia."
    "Dill, there is Dill .... And he can't leave the place." request Ze, stand firm, war to the last lace panties of Europe! It is very likely that they will be with Sunaka .... recourse billionaire....
  25. APASUS
    APASUS 23 November 2022 08: 29
    0
    Speaker of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry:

    An expert meeting with the Iranian side took place. I cannot give you all the details, but I can say one thing: we continue to take tough measures to exclude the supply of Iranian weapons to Russia.

    Otherwise, Ukraine will erase Iran ..................... from the map with an eraser?
  26. Voronezh
    Voronezh 24 November 2022 11: 57
    0
    I won’t be surprised at all if there are deliveries of Iranian drones to dill ....