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Russia expects a battle for the Crimea?

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Russia expects a battle for the Crimea?

On November 18, the head of the Crimea Sergey Aksyonov saidthat fortification works are being carried out on the territory of the peninsula. The fact that Crimea is being prepared for defense is hardly a secret for anyone - at the beginning of the month, Western media published satellite images of trenches and trenches in the northern part of the peninsula. Such preparations indicate that the Russian military command does not exclude the offensive and breakthroughs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the southern direction, the advance of the enemy to the left-bank part of the Kherson region.


The fact that Kyiv may make an attempt to seize the Crimea in the perspective of six months at the beginning of the month was expressed by the former commander of the US Ground Forces in Europe, Lieutenant General Ben Hodges.

“All roads lead to Crimea. And as they get closer and closer, they will be able to use HIMARS and other long-range precision strikes against Russian targets in Crimea. And as soon as they start using high-precision weapon on Russian air bases and logistics and naval installations in Crimea, then I think that Crimea will become unsuitable for defense. And that is why, I believe, Ukraine will liberate Crimea before the summer,”

Hodges predicts.

If such a statement had been made by a retired American general a few months ago, many would have laughed at him and not taken it seriously, but after the retreat of the RF Armed Forces from Kherson and the Kharkov region, no one is laughing anymore.

In this article, we will try to answer the questions: is the battle for Crimea a real scenario or a fantasy of Ukrainian propagandists and American officials? How does the West see the further development of the military conflict in Ukraine?

Does the West intend to turn Ukraine into "Israel on the Dnieper"?


On October 25, on the website of the Carnegie Endowment (by decision of the Ministry of Justice, it ceased its activities in Russia in the spring), a noteworthy analytical material authored by Vladimir Frolov was published under the heading “Surovikin, corridor and peacekeepers. How Russia changed its goals towards Ukraine". In addition to the fairly obvious theses that General Surovikin is faced with the task of establishing defense and preventing deep breakthroughs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and further shifts in new borders, the following was written there:

“The new political goal of the NWO was formulated by Putin at a recent press conference in Astana: to keep the land corridor to the Crimea along the coast of the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov and the left bank of the Dnieper for the Russian Federation, so that Kyiv would not turn off the water again.” For this, control over Mariupol, Berdyansk, Melitopol and Nova Kakhovka is more important than over Kherson, Lisichansk and Severodonetsk. Surovikin has the authority to make this "difficult choice" himself.

As for Kherson, the author was not mistaken, in Severodonetsk the situation is not so unambiguous - while the acting head of the LPR, Leonid Pasechnik assuresthat at the moment the evacuation of the population from Lisichansk and Severodonetsk is not planned, which is certainly a positive sign, but everything can change, and, as история this conflict, quickly enough.

The material on the website of the Carnegie Endowment notes that a diplomatic settlement of the conflict is impossible without progress on the territorial issue on one side or the other - that is, someone must concede or suffer a military defeat. At the same time, it is noted that the consensus position of the West is that “Moscow should not receive new territorial acquisitions” and roll back to the borders before February 24.

“Zelensky sees two possible ways out of this situation. The first is the accelerated entry of Ukraine into NATO. However, the alliance is in no hurry to formalize this status for Ukraine by officially accepting its application for membership. The second possible way out is the transformation of Ukraine into an Israel saturated with Western and its own weapons, a “warrior country” constantly ready for a full-scale war. Accordingly, "Ukrainian Israel" must have a powerful air force, air defense systems and long-range missile systems. It is clear that the prospect of “Israel on the Dnieper” does not smile at Moscow, hence the demands for the demilitarization of Ukraine, which, however, have already become unrealistic,”

– writes Vladimir Frolov.

The way out of the situation, according to the author, could be the deployment of NATO peacekeepers in Ukraine. And Moscow allegedly is not against such a scenario.

“It would seem that Moscow should be against such an option. After all, Putin specifically warned in Astana that the direct involvement of NATO troops in operations against Russian troops in Ukraine could result in the use of nuclear weapons by Moscow. But here it is possible to agree in a good way that the UN/NATO forces are introduced after the cessation of active hostilities to guarantee the new borders of Ukraine and the Russian Federation (with the Russian corridor to Crimea), and Kyiv will recognize them as part of the final settlement. After all, the key Russian demand is the recognition by Ukraine of new borders with the Russian Federation and Russian sovereignty over Crimea and the territories of the land corridor, as well as international guarantees that Kyiv will not revise this recognition by military means. So, it does not matter whether these guarantees will be provided by something under the guise of the UN or directly by NATO or the EU. It’s paradoxical, but following the results of the NMD, Russia will really need guarantees of the West’s security from the future revanchism of Kyiv,”

- stated in the material.

How realistic is such a scenario, especially considering that Ukraine has repeatedly spoken about intentions to reach the borders of 1991? There is no answer to this question. Just as it is not clear to what extent the West supports Kyiv's aspirations to reach the borders of 1991, quite contradictory statements follow from the mouths of American and European officials over and over again.

Does Moscow agree to such a scenario? This is an even more difficult question for the reason that at the moment it is not clear how the Russian leadership generally sees the end of the military conflict in Ukraine.

Lack of idea and strategy is the key problem of NWO


In my previous materials, I noted that Russia does not have a strategy in confrontation with the West and Ukraine, but only a set of tactics that are used depending on the changing military-political situation. This is the key problem of the SVO.

We often hear that Russia needs a victory, but no one can clearly answer the question - what exactly will this victory be? What are the parameters of this victory? What kind of Russia offers an image of the future? Unfortunately, there are no clear and precise answers to these questions.

The Russian leadership, including President Vladimir Putin, talks a lot about traditional values, the inadmissibility of the dictatorship of the West, etc., but these words are not supported by any doctrines. What doctrine would be realistic at the moment? Contrary to popular belief, in the opinion of the author, a “right-wing”, conservative turn in Russia would be more logical than a “left-wing” one.

If we put aside the "surrender" scenario (with "repentance" and reparations), then Russia has two ways - to isolate itself from the world as much as possible in the Iran / North Korea format and try to survive as a world outcast, or become a vassal of China. Option number 2 seems less realistic, due to the fact that the PRC is apparently not very interested in this - at least, given the actual lack of support for the Russian military operation from the PRC, this is the impression that is created.

The implementation of the first scenario implies the construction, to use the term of the historian Sergei Pereslegin, "enlightened solidarism" on the model of Juan Peron or António de Salazar. Peronism is quite an interesting ideology. Its essence lies in the desire to “integrate” the right and the left as parts of one political whole, preventing their open confrontation with the subsequent political and ideological split of society. Peronism was a unique fusion of authoritarian Caudilism, social populism, bourgeois dynamism and socialist modernism.

Why is turning right more logical? To answer, it is worth asking another question - how many large "left" parties in the same Europe support Russia? And how many are "right"? The only major party in Germany that advocates the lifting of sanctions against Russia and whose representatives were even in the Donbass is the far-right Alternative for Germany. Who in France sympathizes with Russia the most? National Front Marine Le Pen. Representatives of which Hungarian party came to Donbass in 2014, where the referendum was held? It was a delegation of the "right" party "For a Better Hungary" ("Jobbik"). This is not to mention the fact that Russia is looking with hope at the US Republican Party and Donald Trump, who has repeatedly called himself a nationalist and anti-globalist.

In the event of a conservative "right" turn and a demonstration of any success, Russia could become the center of consolidation of right-wing forces in Europe. However, to implement the first scenario, Russia needs not only to rebuild the economy (import substitution, etc.), at least partially renew the elites and announce the relevant doctrines - one of the key conditions is Russia's non-losing in Ukraine. And with this at the moment things are, frankly, not very good.

Ukraine plans to seize Crimea


At the moment, there is a strong feeling that there is a fairly strong party in the Kremlin (how strong is a debatable question), advocating precisely the “surrender” option. Considering that the fighting in Ukraine is clearly dragging on, and compromise with the West is not being reached, this is not surprising. However, all these behind-the-scenes secret negotiations with the West, illogical concessions and strange decisions are caused not only by the presence of this party, but also by Russia's military weakness. The West and Ukraine see this weakness, so they are becoming bolder and more self-confident.

Deputy Minister of Defense of Ukraine Volodymyr Gavrilov, for example, yesterday in an interview with Western media made a loud statement that the war could end by the end of spring, and Kyiv would capture Crimea by the end of the year. Of course, such statements are fantasies of Ukrainian officials, and they are made against the backdrop of the euphoria of the enemy after the Russian troops left Kherson.

Nevertheless, the threat of the continuation of the offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the south has not gone away - the enemy can strike both in the direction of Melitopol to try to cut the land corridor to the Crimea, and try to capture the left-bank part of the Kherson region (although this will be more difficult to do).

Next year, the threat to Crimea could become very real, especially if Ukrainian forces manage to cut the land corridor to the peninsula. But even if the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation beat off all enemy attacks and successfully defend themselves, then wars are not won on the defensive anyway, because defensive tactics in the absence of a strategy are not capable of leading to success.

Russia needs to keep hitting the Ukrainian energy system, but even a complete shutdown of it, which could pose a threat to the maintenance of the troops, will not lead to an immediate military collapse of Kyiv - the front will not collapse overnight. And we should not forget that such strikes are carried out primarily in order for Zelensky to agree to negotiations with Moscow, in a very limited format (the strikes are delivered mainly at 330 kV substations, and not at 750 kV).

In the event that the Ukrainian energy system collapses, Kyiv can open the borders for men, so that the flow of refugees will flood into Europe, and agree to a long-term truce with the Russian Federation. However, without a peace agreement, this truce will only be a respite before a new stage of the war. By the way, Zelensky is also scaring Europe with the flow of refugees, demanding an increase in military assistance.

In order to conduct successful military operations, Russia needs not only to hit the infrastructure - wars are not won with missile strikes - but also, first of all, to work on the mistakes, which is not observed at the moment. As before, for the sake of new medals on the chest, the generals give instructions to storm the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the forehead, regardless of the losses, the issues with the supply of military personnel are still not resolved. There is no strict punishment system at the moment, so the generals feel their absolute impunity. Local initiative, as before, is punishable.

In order to change the situation, Russia needs to change, because it is impossible to achieve success in the current format of existence.
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    2. Pontius Pilate
      Pontius Pilate 22 November 2022 11: 22
      +8
      Advisor to the head of the Crimea announced a new fake about the "evacuation" of Armyansk
      Yesterday, 22:36 | Society
      Monday, 21 November. Crimea 24.
      A new Ukrainian fake about the “evacuation” of Armyansk has appeared on the network. Currently, the city is stable. This was announced by the adviser to the head of the Republic of Crimea Oleg Kryuchkov.

      “New Ukrainian stuffing. Now about the imaginary evacuation of Armyansk. They came up creatively - they publish rounds from pseudo Russian soldiers. We have already understood that fake telegram channels and pages of federal agencies do not work,” Kryuchkov said.

      He noted that the situation in Armyansk is stable. And he asked citizens to trust only official sources and the media.

      Source: https://crimea24tv.ru
      City: Armyansk
      Persons: Oleg Kryuchkov.

      You are a slippery type, a citizen of a lie.
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      2. freddyk
        freddyk 22 November 2022 14: 20
        +19
        Quote: Pontius Pilate
        Advisor to the head of the Crimea announced a new fake about the "evacuation" of Armyansk

        God bless. And then we have heard about fakes about the surrender of Serpentine, Kupyansk, Izyum, Kherson ... about the second Stalingrad. Our own information policy plays along with Ukrainians.
    3. Sergei N 58912062
      Sergei N 58912062 22 November 2022 12: 02
      +8
      I live in Armyansk and for the first time I hear that the city has begun to be evacuated!
      1. dorz
        dorz 22 November 2022 13: 51
        -1
        keep for the Russian Federation a land corridor to the Crimea along the coast of the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov and the left bank of the Dnieper, so that Kyiv does not turn off the water again.

        I think that "Nobles" have an understanding that if you sleep through the non-war, then not only large NATO bases, but also nuclear weapons will appear on the territory of Ukraine.
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 23 November 2022 07: 45
          -5
          Once upon a time, the Finnish War happened, as a result of which Tribaltika became part of the USSR without a fight. I think the goal of the CBO should be about the same. Therefore, no one sleeps, everyone counts.
        2. guest
          guest 23 November 2022 22: 24
          0
          I doubt that there is such an understanding there, and all the "gestures of goodwill" and "regroupings" are the best confirmation of this. Hopefully this understanding will come before it's too late.
    4. credo
      credo 22 November 2022 12: 05
      +2
      If someone thought that the Anglo-Saxons had said goodbye to the dream of seizing the Crimea, then he was deeply mistaken.
      The blow in the stomach and between the legs missed by the Anglo-Saxons left them with an indelible memory and a feeling of a goldfish floating away from their raking hands, therefore, through the mouths of Ben, Sven or Glenn, they will continue to incite the Kyiv regime and the Nazis to storm the outpost on the Black Sea.

      So the front line needs to be leveled along the Dnieper and cut off from the former territory of the Ukrainian SSR, the Nikolaev and Odessa regions.
      1. skeptick2
        skeptick2 22 November 2022 13: 05
        +12
        Quote: credo
        So the front line needs to be leveled along the Dnieper and cut off from the former territory of the Ukrainian SSR, the Nikolaev and Odessa regions.

        Great suggestions.
        And what, in fact, prevents them from being implemented?
        Ninth month?
        1. sadam2
          sadam2 22 November 2022 13: 14
          +19
          Hmm, let's take Kyiv 3 days before it is necessary to prepare for the defense of Crimea, 8 months have passed ..
          1. SKR-1135
            SKR-1135 22 November 2022 20: 21
            -5
            About Kyiv and three days we did not say. Western LOMS declared. Because they could have taken him in three days, wiping him off the face of the earth.
            1. Barberry25
              Barberry25 23 November 2022 17: 04
              0
              it would have turned out if the task was to take, in fact there was no task, so they didn’t take it
        2. PSih2097
          PSih2097 22 November 2022 13: 56
          +7
          Quote from: skeptick2
          And what, in fact, prevents them from being implemented?

          the unwillingness of our elite to fight in a normal way (that is, in American terms), so that the main load is not on infantry with BBT, but on RAV and aviation, you are aware that if an American infantryman releases more than two magazines from his M4, the operation is considered a failure and they begin to have everyone - from the headquarters of the units involved in the operation to intelligence, which gave incorrect data ... And we still have - "Maxim died - well, to hell with him", like they are still giving birth ...
          1. Foul skeptic
            Foul skeptic 22 November 2022 14: 10
            +13
            if an American infantryman releases more than two magazines from his M4, the operation is considered a failure and they begin to have everyone

            I have never seen such a myth before, thanks for the novelty.
            1. Eule
              Eule 26 November 2022 22: 06
              0
              Quote: Nefarious skeptic
              start to have everyone

              It is a myth. But the planning of operations so that the main defeat was artillery and aviation, and the infantry only finished off, and there really was almost no one to shoot at - this is true.
              That is why the rifle is accurately shooting, but wedged after 12 magazines without cleaning.
        3. guest
          guest 23 November 2022 22: 26
          -3
          Quote from: skeptick2
          And what, in fact, prevents them from being implemented?

          The presence of the fifth column in power.
    5. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 22 November 2022 14: 48
      +1
      Quote: Alexander_Snegirev
      Armyansk began to be evacuated. Another outline of a gesture of goodwill has been outlined.

      The tiger in the zoo is not given meat! Dear you, who do you work for? Whose will you be ... see.. d?
  2. rica1952
    rica1952 22 November 2022 11: 17
    +23
    The article is all correct. The leadership of the state has practically no feedback from the people, however, the collective Abramovich has a direct influence on all events, and this is already visible even to the blind.
  3. kor1vet1974
    kor1vet1974 22 November 2022 11: 19
    +19
    Russia looks with hope to the US Republican Party and Donald Trump
    Shaw?! Again?! (c) Maybe enough illusions? There were already hopes. Were they justified? "Trump ours", "Colonel Trump", continued the policy of sanctions, relations did not improve. Russia looks with hope .. Show this Hope .. And who is looking at Russia with her? Yes, and .. "Here is a right turn and the engine roars what it brings to us - An abyss or takeoff, a pool or a ford, and you won’t make out until you turn" (c). Is it time to take a detour? For "normal heroes" this is typical.
  4. Belisarius
    Belisarius 22 November 2022 11: 20
    +15
    The war is taking place in a political, not military, manner, if the issue was only in the military sphere, then despite the monstrous weakness shown by our army, the war would have been over long ago.
    So far, there are no political plans to surrender Crimea and even a corridor to Crimea.
    The maximum that the Russian authorities can go to is the surrender of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant and the north of the Lugansk region. And that about the second is extremely doubtful.
    But as for the "victory", alas, no victory is planned. The leadership of the Russian Federation is looking for a dismount. Even strikes on the energy structure of Ukraine are taking place in a sparing mode, to push the conflict to freeze.
    1. ViktorBiryukov
      22 November 2022 11: 32
      +5
      "Despite the monstrous weakness shown by our army, the war would have been over long ago."

      I do not quite agree with this opinion. I advise you to read Andrey Morozov, a soldier of the People's Militia of the LPR (fighting cat Murz), who recently lucidly, using the situation in the RF Armed Forces with communications as an example, explained why our troops surrender large cities (Kherson), and in return they take villages and towns (Pavlovka). The fact is that even if Kherson had not been surrendered without a fight, I am not very sure that the RF Armed Forces would not have lost the "battle for Kherson" in the end. And the management, making such a decision, understood this very well. But the fight, of course, should have been given. As I have already pointed out in the material, it is not only the notorious "capitulation party", the problem is systemic.
      I agree with the fact that nuclear power plants will probably be commissioned. As for the surrender of the north of the LPR, there are no signs yet. Of course, no one is going to hand over the corridor to the Crimea, the question is that it can be seized by military means.
      1. Plover
        Plover 22 November 2022 11: 58
        +7
        Unfortunately, we have shown our failure in the field of communications and interspecific interaction of troops (which is impossible without modern communications). This can only be leveled by a multiple superiority in manpower and equipment with much higher losses. How society will react to such losses should be clear to everyone. Therefore... "there is a red cat waiting for the bowl to creep up..."
        1. PSih2097
          PSih2097 22 November 2022 14: 37
          0
          Quote: Plover
          Unfortunately, we have shown our failure in the field of communications and interspecific interaction of troops

          like 41, but by 43-44 it was all already ... as they say Generals are always fighting the last war (generals are always preparing for the last war) Churchill.
          1. Plover
            Plover 22 November 2022 16: 47
            0
            By the way, yes. I have heard and read more than once that if there were current equipment in the second Chechen one ...
      2. Dingo
        Dingo 22 November 2022 12: 39
        +8
        As I have already pointed out in the material, the problem is not only the notorious "capitulation party", the problem is systemic.

        Decisions about the goals and objectives of this SVO (popularly nicknamed the "bastard") are taken far from the Kremlin, but by a narrow circle of "nouveau riche friends", based on their own selfish interests. Who firmly hold him "for Faberge" ...
        And as he said more than once, he "does not abandon" his own people. “Abramoisha” did not just rush between Kyiv, Moscow and Istanbul.
        This is politically. What's in the military. And here's what:
        https://thisnews.ru/2022/11/21/neydobnyi-general-syrovikin-vyskazal-vsu-pravdy/
        Well, the "cherry" is that the General Staff itself sank to the level of gopniks from the 90s:
        https://www.rbc.ru/society/22/11/2022/637c4c299a794754f825f236
        What do you think, is this already the "bottom"? Or is there somewhere else to go?
        I think there is where. For example, like this:
        https://prokazan.ru/news/view/za-takoe-nado-rasstrelivat-dobrovolcy-alga-pozalovalis-cto-zamerzaut-i-golodaut-a-gumpomos-do-nih-ne-dosla
      3. Belisarius
        Belisarius 22 November 2022 14: 17
        +14
        Quote: Viktor Biryukov
        I do not quite agree with this opinion. I advise you to read the fighter of the People's Militia of the LPR Andrey Morozov (fighting cat Murz)

        Thank you, I read Murza and I know what the state of communications is in the army. As for the military component, you all write correctly and boldly, you wrote about egregious problems even when everyone threw their hats into the air. But with the political component, you are not all right.
        The most important thing- no one was going to fight . The very purpose of the operation was initially in peace negotiations with the Zelensky government (the Medvedchuk government was plan B). The operation was entirely planned as a tracing paper of Georgia -2008 only on a large scale.
        Hence all the militarily inexplicable decisions. If initially the campaign was built with the goal of winning (that is, changing the government and neutralizing the enemy army in one way or another), then it would have been won. It was enough to follow the elementary principles of military strategy - to concentrate all forces to achieve the main goal. This is either a political goal - the capture of Kyiv and then all the forces go there, or a military goal - the encirclement of the AFU grouping and then all the forces are on the offensive with cutting blows from the north and south and a meeting in the Dnepropetrovsk region.
        However, the goal from the very beginning was negotiations on minimal terms, on those that the West was thought to agree to and on those under which the sanctions would be minimal.
        When this did not work out and the army was forced to fight with its hands tied and without any goals, purely military jambs already began to crawl out, and the more we fight without meaning and purpose, the worse and purely military the situation, the more "five hundredths", the more APU of NATO weapons and the lower our motivation.
        A couple more "gestures of good will" and perhaps the army will run, then indeed they can conquer Crimea by military means. For now, we can still stand on the defensive (based on a purely military component).
      4. Barberry25
        Barberry25 23 November 2022 17: 10
        0
        the problem is simple - at the beginning of the NWO, forces were allocated under the factor that there would be a coup in Kyiv and the Armed Forces of Ukraine would not resist .. Then they decided that it would be possible to gouge the Armed Forces of Ukraine in a couple of months, then when weapons came from Europe, that more time and more strength were needed, then they actively began to invite volunteers .. as a result, when a support program was launched in Europe, they decided to mobilize 300 thousand .. The question is simple: if we want to win this war, we need a grouping of troops of 1 million bayonets with equipment and artillery ... Now there will be about 400 thousand of us at best by the end of December ... which means we need to continue mobilization in a reduced number, say 50-75 thousand per month according to a 2-month training program, taking into account the SVO and the first wave ..
      5. odisey3000
        odisey3000 24 November 2022 17: 10
        -2
        And now, after reading this review, I thought where we are going in terms of submitting material about the special operation. Just think about it, fighter, I emphasize once again the fighter of the people's militia of the LPR And Morozov explained to all of us stupidly why our troops surrendered Kherson. What can I say they sailed .Everyone fancies himself a strategist seeing the battle from the outside. Why did the Soviet government win, because it created the regular Red Army from various semi-revolutionary marginal partisan detachments and shot all the elected commanders in chief. like the East, Sparta, and so on, and these leaders, do not get off the pages of the Internet distributing comments to the right and left. We must end this Makhnovshchina given by the creators of the battalions. Everything is only the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, dear comrade Khodorkovsky wants to be me, like a comrade Joga father is a battalion commander, there will be no questions, but only as part of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, who is against the drive away, reorganize and that's all, no amateur performance. And then again now fight with these partisans. And chase them along Gulyai-Pole. And most importantly, when will military censorship finally appear. raise your hands and run to give up, everything is on emotions
      6. Evrepid
        Evrepid 25 November 2022 10: 33
        0
        Defeatism to the masses? Here's an interesting approach...
        Maybe it's better to write to you like this: Russia give Ukraine KUBAN, ROSTOV, KRASNODAR?
    2. t200404
      t200404 22 November 2022 11: 37
      +10
      Judging by the comments on the site, more and more people think the same as you - which in general is already good - adequately assess reality.
    3. nobody75
      nobody75 22 November 2022 12: 16
      -12
      Excuse me, but what's wrong with "freezing" the conflict? Let "General Frost" lead the "War of the Cities" and destroy Ukrainian megacities from the inside...
      Sincerely
    4. guest
      guest 23 November 2022 22: 31
      +1
      Quote: Belisarius
      So far, there are no political plans to surrender Crimea and even a corridor to Crimea.

      But what about the surrender of Kherson? After this next "gesture of good will" the corridor to the Crimea and the Crimea itself is completely shot through.
  5. paul3390
    paul3390 22 November 2022 11: 22
    +17
    Russia needs to change

    The structure needs to be changed. Just don't be late. For as long as we are ruled by characters, the main thing in life for which is the acquisition of dough - nothing can change for the better in principle. Only for the worse, because such - you can always buy corny. Not like that, like that. The wallet is their only value. And on the interests of the country and the people they don’t care about the pager ..
    1. Vladimir80
      Vladimir80 22 November 2022 11: 42
      -6
      we are ruled by characters, the main thing in life for which is the acquisition of dough

      And for the people what is the most important thing in life?
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 22 November 2022 11: 45
        +4
        Judging by the question - you personally do not belong to the people? Otherwise, they wouldn't have asked.
    2. kor1vet1974
      kor1vet1974 22 November 2022 12: 00
      +2
      The structure needs to be changed.
      Yes no smile why? It’s better to change the regime to the fascist Salazar or Peron, they were so harmless in principle, they were. But there was an ideology. smile The author specifically hints at this. And with the "new" ideology, Salazar-Piron's, with our own color, we will break the back of Bandera fascism. smile
      1. N3onMiami
        N3onMiami 22 November 2022 12: 36
        +8
        This is what pissed me off the most in the article.
        The goal - denazification, was dispersed by all irons, that the Nazis are only in Ukraine and we must defeat them.
        And the author offers Russia a political system, which, in essence, is a copy of fascist Italy, where the country is ruled by a military dictator, in fact a military junta (yes, yes, the same one that we were told about in 2014-2015 in Ukraine).
        What is that supposed to mean?
        1. kor1vet1974
          kor1vet1974 22 November 2022 13: 56
          +5
          What is that supposed to mean?
          So understand. Turning to the left is not possible (a return, even to the RSFSR), SAM, said this. In a direct way, it doesn’t work, from the word at all. Narodishko, without ideology, he lost his fear. We can’t go straight, we won’t go to the left, it remains to the right. And then there are options. We don’t want Hitler, Mussolini. Franco is an odious figure. Pinochet? This is too much. Samosa, Stresner, somehow small, and they sniffed with the Americans. Piron and Salazar remain, so-so, more or less suitable figures, they didn’t stain themselves with anything in particular .. and there was an ideology. So the author suggested, as an option. It will do, sprinkle it with the golden powder of socialism and it will do. The people, until they figure out what's what .. And he has the same pears, only sideways. smile
        2. Santa Fe
          Santa Fe 23 November 2022 10: 38
          +5
          offers Russia a political system, which, in essence, is a copy of fascist Italy, where the country is ruled by a military dictator, in fact a military junta (yes, yes, the same one we were told about in 2014-2015 in Ukraine).
          What is that supposed to mean?

          It was said half a century ago

          Future fascists will come under the slogans of anti-fascists

          Looking at the Zaraza that swept the country, our great-grandfathers who fought against fascism are turning over in their graves
          1. Kaufman
            Kaufman 24 November 2022 13: 51
            0
            Excuse me, but where was this mentioned half a century ago?
  6. rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 22 November 2022 11: 28
    +14
    to change the situation, Russia needs to re-elect (change) the president, Putin is not the right person to change the situation, he does not serve the people and Russia, he serves the national bourgeoisie, and all his correct words are purely camouflage
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 22 November 2022 11: 43
      +13
      According to the classics, the ruler ALWAYS expresses the interests of the ruling class exclusively. And only so. In our unfortunate case - the oligarchic bourgeoisie. And a simple change of personalities will not affect either .. For there is no such type of nationally oriented bourgeois and cannot be in principle. With all the consequences.
    2. skeptick2
      skeptick2 22 November 2022 12: 07
      +9
      Quote: rotkiv04
      Putin is not the man to change the situation

      If I were a jingoistic patriot, I would bring a lot of arguments against this proposal.
      - Horses do not change at the crossing.
      - Don't rock the boat.
      - If not Putin, then who?
      - No Putin - no Russia (not just anyone said - the chairman of the State Duma of the Russian Federation).
      - Do you want to go back to the 90s?
      - Do you want us to be ruled again by oligarchs proteges of the West?
      - Do you want to get on your knees again?
      Etc.
      But I am a sane person. And therefore I have to admit that your words are somewhat logical.
    3. N3onMiami
      N3onMiami 22 November 2022 12: 38
      +8
      9 months ago you would have been bombarded with minuses, slops and even cursed at your mother.
      The only good thing is that the VO audience is able to adequately perceive reality.
      1. Santa Fe
        Santa Fe 23 November 2022 10: 35
        0
        9 months ago you would have been thrown here with minuses, slops

        Now they are wrapped with tape and smash their heads with a sledgehammer


        Guards sledgehammer named after Prigozhin laughing
    4. Lyuba1965_01
      Lyuba1965_01 23 November 2022 19: 53
      0
      The idea is certainly interesting.
      But who would you like to propose instead of him?
  7. ZAV69
    ZAV69 22 November 2022 11: 28
    +3
    Until Vova comes to the conclusion that the peace party in the Kremlin must be quickly and without fuss shot or hanged, there will be no sense. Or does he not have the resources for such an event? It is already clear that they cannot be re-educated.
    1. Vladimir80
      Vladimir80 22 November 2022 11: 44
      +10
      Or does he not have the resources for such an event?

      if Elvira and Anton were replaced in March, I would believe that he is so generous, he is trying to rule the world ... but since the "watchers" of the finances remained at the helm, the most incredible scenarios of the "life of the Kremlin" are possible, up to complete external control from Over the ocean, unfortunately...
  8. Ronrew
    Ronrew 22 November 2022 11: 29
    +1
    NATO peacekeepers in Ukraine? It's like putting wolves in a sheepfold. I would like to understand what our government wants. If we fight to the bitter end, then we must continue to mobilize, including in the economy and industry. If he wants to "merge", then go ahead - territorial concessions, the fulfillment of political demands, repentance and reparations. Before the beginning of the CBO, they said a very interesting phrase - "a terrible end is better than fear without end." I wonder what "unnamed" will choose.
    1. ZAV69
      ZAV69 22 November 2022 11: 34
      -4
      Read Zakhar Prilepin. He has written about this at least 5 times. Everything is simple there: part of the elite wants to return everything back, and part does not want to.
      That's why we do not turn on the mode of total war. And without this mode, there will be no victory. Vova has already tried a couple of times to put the elite in such a position that there is no way out but to fight until victory. So I get out the cattle, I try to kick everything.
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 22 November 2022 11: 31
    +1
    Russia expects a battle for the Crimea?
    . All these are the consequences of that ... yes, from a lot of things.
    We have too many imperfections, and even frank ... all sorts of things.
  10. Roust
    Roust 22 November 2022 11: 31
    +12
    There is nothing more to be surprised about in this strange NWO.
    1. vadimtt
      vadimtt 22 November 2022 12: 25
      +5
      Unfortunately, I think we will be surprised more than once.
    2. Evgeny_Sviridenko
      Evgeny_Sviridenko 22 November 2022 18: 35
      0
      Well, get used to something ... That the future, as it were, has already come. It is not yet possible to tell people directly that there are essentially no states anymore. And there are private corporate interests, and, accordingly, hostilities are the essence of a showdown between corporations, that is, private capital. That is why the Russian woman pays money for the transit of gas and ammonia to Ukraine, and the agreements are different. And all these sanctions, puffing out cheeks, "Get up a huge country," demonstrative blows - this is for ordinary people. The people in Russia, however, as in many countries, are not subjective. He is just a resource, and those few subjects from the people who do not have power and do not have bayonets behind their backs can be ignored. I urge you to treat my words simply as words, realizing that reality is more complex and multifaceted than our conclusions.
  11. t200404
    t200404 22 November 2022 11: 33
    +6
    In general, I agree 100%, only it was necessary to change in advance. Now the Society cannot be changed dramatically, in the current situation, the only option is some kind of average agreement with the freezing of the status of the east of Ukraine / Crimea. What the leadership of the Russian Federation is planning next ..... it’s good if it knows itself.
    1. Jcvai
      Jcvai 22 November 2022 11: 46
      +5
      Because society is in limbo.
      There is an "old / Soviet" generation and their pupils on the concepts of honor, justice, duty ... and there is a "new Russian" generation brought up by "modernity" on "loot conquers evil" - whoever has more money is right.
      But this does not work, because the first requires reciprocity, at least in terms of honesty and responsibility, and the second does not have enough funds.
      1. t200404
        t200404 22 November 2022 12: 00
        +1
        For me, everything is easier 35+ what the authorities are doing now is no longer satisfied (here I enter too), 35- and before that it didn’t particularly suit.
      2. Ronrew
        Ronrew 22 November 2022 12: 03
        +5
        Pay attention to the officers of the mobilized - these are people over 40, born in the USSR and remembering this country, people who have been Octoberists, pioneers, Komsomol members, and some communists. Here she is the support of the state, and not the oligarchs, deputies, "effective" managers and bloggers.
  12. ocean969
    ocean969 22 November 2022 11: 36
    -8
    How Russian journalism was crushed, in order to grab dough from a publishing house, they are ready to write any nonsense. You also write whether Russia is ready to defend Moscow, and give "arguments", the arrestovich said: "Let's go to Moscow", it remains only to correctly substantiate.
    1. U-58
      U-58 22 November 2022 12: 37
      +4
      And after all you in something are right.
      Are we ready to defend Moscow?
      And "we will threaten the Swede"?
      At present, there are no firm, life-affirming answers.
      Remember the frames of films about the Second World War, where the inscription often flashes on the walls of German houses: "Wir kapitulieren nie".
      Here's what the hell is looming.
  13. BAI
    BAI 22 November 2022 11: 41
    +17
    Deputy Minister of Defense of Ukraine Volodymyr Gavrilov, for example, yesterday in an interview with Western media made a loud statement that the war could end by the end of spring, and Kyiv would capture Crimea by the end of the year.

    The head of the GRU of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Bulanov, promised to take Kherson in November, and Crimea in March. According to Kherson, his prediction came true.
    1. Kaufman
      Kaufman 24 November 2022 13: 54
      0
      He is Budanov. And yes, his predictions come true. And he also said that he knew the plans of the General Staff of the Russian Federation before they were approved
  14. Mihail55
    Mihail55 22 November 2022 11: 48
    +8
    How it all became commonplace...referendums...recognition...new Russian territories...festivities for the occasion! And now - the invaders on RUSSIAN soil! And what was this clowning? Now the real picture can be found in any social networks, on VO and very late at Solovyov! Who are we being held for?
    1. kor1vet1974
      kor1vet1974 22 November 2022 12: 13
      +12
      Who are we being held for?
      And all for the same .. as before ..
    2. rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 22 November 2022 14: 10
      +4
      Quote: Michael55
      How it all became commonplace...referendums...recognition...new Russian territories...festivities for the occasion! And now - the invaders on RUSSIAN soil! And what was this clowning? Now the real picture can be found in any social networks, on VO and very late at Solovyov! Who are we being held for?

      and since the 90s, back in the joint venture with Sobchak, Putin was a specialist in breeding suckers and rabbits, which he continues to do successfully now
  15. acetophenone
    acetophenone 22 November 2022 11: 49
    +5
    , as well as international guarantees,
    That's even too lazy to laugh, reading such nonsense.
    And as for the lack of ideas of the war with the outskirts, then - yes. And that Russia needs to change - yes. So what
    ... President Vladimir Putin talks a lot about traditional values, the inadmissibility of the dictatorship of the West, etc., but these words are not supported by any doctrines
    , too, yes.
    That's just what and how to do with this many-spoken and his numerous hangers-on is unclear.
    Because they will not get rid of Russia by their own will.
    1. Dingo
      Dingo 22 November 2022 13: 08
      +2
      Everything repeats, unfortunately. Byron said this well on the movement of the Luddists (destroyers of machines):
      ... Volunteers are coming, grenadiers are coming ...
      On the campaign shelves.
      Against the wrath of the weavers
      The police are taking action!
      And the judges are in place - a crowd of executioners.

      People are sorry. Those who believed that "Russia has come forever"...
  16. Russian Patriot
    Russian Patriot 22 November 2022 11: 51
    +3
    The surrender of the Crimea is possible in the event of the loss of the Zaporozhye region. Then the Armed Forces of Ukraine will have the opportunity to hammer on the Crimean bridge, by analogy with Antonovsky.
  17. URAL-14
    URAL-14 22 November 2022 11: 51
    0
    In order to realize "Peronism" one must be PERON! Although the surnames begin with the same letter, but this is the only coincidence! I have the impression that our "peron" does not understand what awaits him as a result of the defeat! Only victory will give him and his family guarantees of survival! And Russia too!
  18. U-58
    U-58 22 November 2022 11: 56
    +11
    We will soon live to see the battle for Perekop.
    By the way, all analytical materials are literally broken about the lack of clear plans for Russia. Military, geopolitical, economic.
    No one (it seems that no one at all) knows neither our goals in Ukraine, nor the ways to achieve them.
    Hence the confusion.
    And it would be fine if the West has misunderstandings.
    But even the Russian people cannot understand anything.
    Hence the unrest, bewilderment and a clear decline in the prestige of power, including the emperor-empirator and further anger towards the oligarchy, which rules the ball, well, very much in its own direction. People simply do not understand how it will all end. They (and me, in particular) are worried.
    The alignment looks very, very negative.
  19. Tagan
    Tagan 22 November 2022 11: 59
    -7
    Quote: Alexander_Snegirev
    Armyansk began to be evacuated. Another outline of a gesture of goodwill has been outlined ..... beep-beep-beep...

    I'm wondering, do you, tsipsoshniks, earn at least a stew with your stupid fakes?
    1. Ronrew
      Ronrew 22 November 2022 12: 19
      +5
      Did you personally check the commentator's documents? Precisely an employee of the CIPSO? I also recently registered on the site and can you imagine, to put it mildly, I don’t really like the “unnamed” one - does it mean that I’m also a “cissoshnik”? As for the comment - yes, the use of unverified information, but on the other hand, people wrote the same thing about Kherson, and they are afraid that we will continue to "merge".
    2. ada
      ada 22 November 2022 20: 09
      +1
      Quote: Tagan
      I'm interested, ...

      No, it's onet, in anticipation of new owners, they are gaining "political VES" wassat
  20. FoBoss_VM
    FoBoss_VM 22 November 2022 12: 13
    +19
    And you know colleagues, sadly, but I’m not at all surprised by the surrender of Crimea. Until recently, I was sure that they would not leave Kherson, they would connect ALL the capabilities of the Armed Forces of the RF Ministry of Defense (and they were, you could simply destroy the group all there with massive carpet bombing and a lot more could be done if they gave the military the go-ahead), but they would not leave. The shock was incredible and even how they furnished it with a bunch of reasons to leave from there, but there was not one to stay. And after all, in addition to a purely military defeat in the form of the loss of a very important bridgehead on the right bank, from which it was possible to develop an attack on Nikolaev and Odessa (and it is not yet known how many people will be put down when they take it back, if of course), but worse than that, reputational losses, return them much more difficult, if at all possible. Softened and Putin's inability to make important decisions is already starting to frighten; they rushed headlong into the pool, but didn’t think how to get out ... Now I’m more than sure that while Putin is surrounded by all those who are now, nothing will change. The time will come and he will not hesitate to come up with a thousand reasons to leave Crimea, the Ukrainians, together with NATO, will cross the land corridor, the bridge will be blown up and Putin will also say that due to the inability to supply Crimea by sea, it was decided to redeploy troops to Rostov, to the Kuban and to Novorossiysk. And everyone will say yes, this is strategically correct and then we will return everything. Probably... but it's not certain. Putin will say that this was precisely his goal and everyone will believe it, because no other sane goals were announced. Now tell me fellow members of the forum, after the Kiev Sumy gestures of goodwill, after soft-assed grain deals, after sending Azov militants instead of a scaffold to Turkey with new iPhones with the direct participation of Abramovich's geek, after failing to resolve the issue of stopping the supply of any weapons to Ukraine and destroying communications , after the Kharkov flight, after leaving the bridgehead on the right bank and leaving Kherson, is everything that I wrote really a fantastic scenario for the development of events? I'm personally not surprised by anything. I’m not an all-rounder, but I’m not a hat-throwing urapatriot either. I really look at things and events and try to soberly analyze the situation
    1. laws70
      laws70 22 November 2022 12: 27
      0
      On the one hand, everything is so. Nothing is impossible now. And on the other hand: with a properly built defense and preparation of the fleet, you can grind any army there. Not to mention the fact that this territory is legally no different from the Belgorod region, so we not only can, but are obliged to use nuclear weapons to protect it!
      1. Jcvai
        Jcvai 22 November 2022 13: 00
        +10
        this territory is legally no different from the Belgorod region

        An important nuance: from October 4 this year, legally, the Kherson region does not differ from the Belgorod region ...
      2. Kronos
        Kronos 22 November 2022 13: 28
        -1
        This requires a lot of modern aviation, artillery, armored vehicles, modern equipment for infantry, modern communications and interaction of troops. if all this is not there, then there will be a bilateral meat grinder, where both sides will suffer heavy losses.
    2. Kronos
      Kronos 22 November 2022 12: 40
      0
      All this is understandable, it is not clear why the author calls for right-wing autocracy? After all, it will be exactly such a regime of open dictatorship, similar to the Ukrainian one, and there will be no industry and no rise.
      1. ViktorBiryukov
        22 November 2022 12: 55
        +2
        Before writing such comments, take the trouble to familiarize yourself with what happened to the Argentine economy during the reign of Juan Peron, what reforms he carried out and why he brought the country out of the crisis. Briefly for your reference:

        The first thing the Perón government did was to nationalize the Central Bank. A number of reforms were carried out: some foreign banks were nationalized, increased customs duties on foreign goods, limited the export of capital from the country, increased taxes on the profits of foreign companies. Do you think this is bad? “I didn’t read it, but I condemn it” - this is typical for many commentators.
        1. Kronos
          Kronos 22 November 2022 13: 25
          +3
          I know about their activities, but I will never justify the right-wing government. In addition, in Russia there have already been such attempts and precedents to create such a power by white leaders during the civil war. They didn't do anything good. I'm not talking about the fact that living in a right-wing autocracy will not be sugar at all. Well, appeals with hope for part of the US elites are an exact copy of the white aspirations for the gentlemen from the Entente against the Bolsheviks.
        2. Foul skeptic
          Foul skeptic 22 November 2022 13: 29
          +8
          Briefly for your reference:

          Perón's leadership is populism mixed with nationalism. Argentina, being a country of peripheral capitalism, later entered the crisis and later emerged from it. Therefore, the recovery of the economy is partly just a subjective feeling of improvement after the bottom of the cycle has passed. But this is partly. The main "reform" is a gesheft from the Nazis, who set up an alternate airfield for themselves there, plus a gesheft from the war in Europe and post-war trade. As soon as the exhaust of this dissipated, the problems returned to the economy, as they did not go anywhere.
          1. Kaufman
            Kaufman 24 November 2022 14: 00
            +1
            From the first to the last word of the comment - to the point! I agree
        3. gromit
          gromit 22 November 2022 14: 50
          +4
          Peron yes, well done. Made tough decisions.

          Bold BUT

          1. How did he come to power? - with a coup.
          2. Who replaced him? - The military junta is openly interested in taking over the "nationalized" enterprises, driving the population into poverty, practicing secret executions, unleashing and losing the war.

          What stage are we at now? Kadyrov's guards and Prigozhin's convicts are already there, Peron is nowhere to be seen.
        4. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 25 November 2022 12: 09
          +1
          The economy of Argentina was based on raw materials. raw materials for export.
          Only beef was exported instead of oil.
          If Argentina would self-isolate, or fall under
          sanctions, it would be bent instantly.
          Basis for success any economy in the 21st century:
          export of technological products.
          Self-isolation or forced isolation is inevitable
          leads to scientific and technical degradation and a sharp drop in
          people's living standards.
  21. Tagan
    Tagan 22 November 2022 12: 44
    +3
    Quote from Ronrew
    Did you personally check the commentator's documents? Precisely an employee of the CIPSO? I also recently registered on the site and can you imagine, to put it mildly, I don’t really like the “unnamed” one - does it mean that I’m also a “cissoshnik”? As for the comment - yes, the use of unverified information, but on the other hand, people wrote the same thing about Kherson, and they are afraid that we will continue to "merge".

    Read for interest other comments of this character. Such game on a voluntary basis and being within the boundaries of the Russian Federation will be thrown out by a person, perhaps not quite adequate. Firstly, he has a lot of rehashings of Ukrainian fake-throwers who have proven themselves in this field, and secondly, he has already coughed up an article for himself several times. The fact that he once told the truth, and then lied ten times, is not at all a reason for justification.
    1. Ronrew
      Ronrew 22 November 2022 13: 09
      +2
      On the one hand, I agree, but considering what kind of "game" is going on, I also understand the commentator. I myself have a complete dissonance from the news coming from the NWO zone and the actions of our government. At the same time, both the desire to "rush" to the SVO as a volunteer, and at the same time the understanding that you may have to shoot at those with whom you played in the sandbox in the early 80s (they are bad, but their own) and the desire to join the "ukrams" in order to get to the supreme and his cronies and pay them tribute for their betrayal, lies and cowardice. I really hope that among our military there will be people who will be able to "reason" our government, otherwise the country will simply disappear.
  22. gromit
    gromit 22 November 2022 12: 52
    +10
    Where else to the right?
    You can stick Z on the national flag and rename the guarantor into the Great Invisible Dragon - do you think it will help?

    We need tanks, guns, missiles, shells, UAVs, communications, uniforms, hospitals ... - better than the enemy, more than the enemy. This is what is needed.
    There will be military superiority - any idea will do

    Guys, now is not the time for ideas, philosophy, metaphysics and other extrasensory perception, with which the head of the population has been hammered for 20 years.
    There were already such dreamers, they also loved to draw runes, build Erenhalle and talk about the great Teutonic spirit, instead of preparing a warm uniform and horse fodder.
    Do you remember how it ended for them?
    1. Timur_kz
      Timur_kz 26 November 2022 00: 28
      0
      So without an idea, you won’t have guns, planes, guns either ... because for this you need to mobilize the economy, you won’t get off with a simple “here’s the money for you”, a million questions will arise: where to get specialists (labor mobilization), who needs them in the shortest terms to prepare (educational program), how all this should be financed (clearly not market, otherwise the tanks will be at the price of gold), all this needs to be planned and controlled (mobilization of administrative resources). Now the question is, who will explain and motivate the people in an accessible way so that everyone rushes to their desks and factories? That's what an Idea is for! Of course not right, this is nonsense.
  23. Nikolay Malyugin
    Nikolay Malyugin 22 November 2022 13: 23
    +2
    Right-wing forces have already defined the country in the last century. What came out of this is clear to everyone. Crimea is needed not so much by Ukrainians as by Americans. To consolidate control in the Black Sea. They were prevented by the intervention of first Luzhkov, then Putin. And to see the appetite of this peninsula has not disappeared. Crimea is worth it to increase strike power in a neighboring country.
    1. aglet
      aglet 24 November 2022 10: 56
      +1
      "Crimea is needed not so much by Ukrainians as by Americans. To consolidate control in the Black Sea."
      Americans have Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, Georgia. they already control the entire Black Sea, Crimea for this they do not need. but as recent events have shown, the Black Sea Fleet is not an enemy for them at all, but just a handful of ships that are still floating in this American sea
  24. Igorash
    Igorash 22 November 2022 13: 42
    0
    If so, defeat is inevitable...
  25. Iris
    Iris 22 November 2022 13: 57
    +6
    Quote: nobody75
    Excuse me, but what's wrong with "freezing" the conflict? Let "General Frost" lead the "War of the Cities" and destroy Ukrainian megacities from the inside...
    Sincerely

    There are no draws in a war. Either victory or defeat. but this is not a war, as you know. This is SVO, the meaning and meaning of which I have not yet been able to find out anywhere. But on the other hand, everyone knows that Ukraine pumps our oil to the West through Druzhba, we regularly pay it for transit, and we are anxious about the transport infrastructure. How many tunnels or bridges have been destroyed in Ukraine? That's right, none. And those that were blown up - so it is in the Russian Hermon. Which we handed over without a fight and now we are building barriers in the Crimea and the Belgorod region. Yes, it turns out that Belarus has supplied Ukraine with fuel and lubricants for 750 million dollars of the Russian Federation since the beginning of the year - a total of 570 million. So everything is in order in the Armed Forces of Ukraine with fuel and lubricants. Some give weapons, others money.
  26. Tagan
    Tagan 22 November 2022 14: 49
    0
    Quote from Ronrew
    On the one hand, I agree, but considering what kind of "game" is going on, I also understand the commentator. I myself have a complete dissonance from the news coming from the NWO zone and the actions of our government. At the same time, both the desire to "rush" to the SVO as a volunteer, and at the same time the understanding that you may have to shoot at those with whom you played in the sandbox in the early 80s (they are bad, but their own) and the desire to join the "ukrams" in order to get to the supreme and his cronies and pay them tribute for their betrayal, lies and cowardice. I really hope that among our military there will be people who will be able to "reason" our government, otherwise the country will simply disappear.

    We are sitting on the priest evenly, and God forbid, if we have at least a tenth of the information, based on which we draw some conclusions. Worse yet, hysteria is putting it on public display as a fait accompli.
    As for this "commentator", it is not entirely clear in what sense you understand him. It is not that he is trying to figure something out or shares his experiences, but purposefully posts garbage information. Maybe, after all, you haven’t figured it out yet?)) This is an ordinary enemy (whether on a salary or not, it doesn’t matter), whose task for our layman is to bring confusion to the head and create nervousness. Someone will send this "commentator" or not pay attention to him, and another, being easily programmable, will suck in all this shit, gouge his eyes and begin to broadcast and break into rash actions.
    Join "ukram" to become the same meat? Well I do not know. Looks like you got a little excited here))
  27. Leontrotsky
    Leontrotsky 22 November 2022 14: 57
    -7
    I disagree with many things in the article))) Well, for example, with the fact that among a certain part of the leadership of the Russian Federation the idea of ​​surrender is hatched. The same applies to the negotiations, in which the new regions included in the Russian Federation will go to Ukraine. Needless to say, after this, our Supreme Commander will be a political bankrupt. With all the ensuing consequences in 24. Yes, and going to peace or negotiations, on unfavorable terms, when the country's capabilities and resources have not been exhausted even by 20 percent, is ridiculous. In the case of negotiations, sanctions with the Russian Federation will not be removed, and its situation will worsen, due to the fact that Ukraine will again be pumped up with weapons and the abscess of Nazism will remain. Rather, everything says otherwise. Partial mobilization and adjustment of the military industry on a military footing and work in three shifts suggests that the country is preparing for a protracted conflict. In the event of a campaign against the Crimea and a real danger, it is possible to withdraw part of the troops from other directions, but to weaken some direction. but solve this problem. However, half a million available on this front should be enough.
    I do not agree with the fact that the country's leadership has no plan of what to do with Ukraine. It has been voiced, in one form or another, several times. Those regions in which the referendum will be held will go to the Russian Federation, if they wish to join. Those who do not want to join form a Ukraine loyal to the Russian Federation, most likely with a couple of Russian bases on its territory. To do this, however, it is necessary to win, that is, to force the Kyiv regime to capitulate. Is it possible, in my opinion.
    The current situation is painful for the West as well. For Ukraine has turned into a black hole, where a lot of money goes, both states and Europe. This is especially critical for Europeans, because the energy and economic crises require an injection of funds into their economy and their energy sector. There is inflation in Europe. For some, it is under 25 percent, for some it is 10-15 percent, but spoiled Europeans are slowly taking to the streets. But the further, the more the situation will worsen. So this alignment is to some extent beneficial to the Russian Federation.
    As for weapons, the Russian Federation has superiority in artillery (according to the same Western experts), dominance in aviation and, of course, in the OTRK. The energy structure is being destroyed. It is not clear why the bridges across the Dnieper are not being destroyed (they are already shouting about this at every corner), but the command of the AFRF means they know better.
    In general, I would say that Ukraine has no chance. Therefore, similar articles are published, cherishing the hope that the Russian Federation will give back. But negotiations in this situation mean a complete defeat for the Russian Federation. And therefore they will not.
    1. aglet
      aglet 24 November 2022 11: 07
      0
      "I also do not agree with the fact that the country's leadership does not have a plan for what to do with Ukraine. It was voiced, in one form or another some once"
      yes, and every time is new
  28. DmSol
    DmSol 22 November 2022 15: 19
    +3
    Quote: Alexander_Snegirev
    Armyansk began to be evacuated. Another outline of a gesture of goodwill has been outlined. Professional military telecommunications and signalmen with knowledge of modern communication technologies are absent in the troops as a class. The state-owned project of a unified digital communication of the tactical level, "Azart", failed. At the "court" units, the shaking begins at the sounds of a distant cannonade, they scatter, losing the latest armored vehicles. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, heroically storming, shedding blood and stupidly losing people, but still occupying villages and towns, lost and will lose to the enemy at the operational level, left and will continue to leave not villages, but entire regions and regional centers. Precisely because the RF Armed Forces do not have a normal communications and control system. And the APU has it. And the Armed Forces of Ukraine knew from the very beginning that the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation at the operational level would be helpless in a collision with an enemy that was somehow controlled and at the same time commensurate with them in terms of formal strength.

    tearing word for word "They write to us from Ioannina" it would be correct to give a link
  29. dementor873
    dementor873 22 November 2022 16: 39
    +2
    They were late with mobilization. And even after its completion, they will still be in the role of catching up. Then they will drag on for half a year, as in spring, and by the summer they will remember that more fighters are needed. Those who have been fighting since February, according to the authorities, are they cyborgs, do they only need a power outlet for recharging?
  30. Aviator_
    Aviator_ 22 November 2022 17: 05
    +3
    Kyiv can open the borders for men, so that the flow of refugees will flood into Europe,
    And what, Europe will also open the border for them? Some nonsense. The border is guarded on both sides.
  31. Vlad Gor
    Vlad Gor 22 November 2022 20: 40
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    The fifth column does not allow to win. That's the whole story.
  32. ratcatcher
    ratcatcher 23 November 2022 04: 35
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    Extremely tendentious in regard to ideology. Ukraine was supported by many right-wingers. And among the mercenaries in Ukraine, they are also mostly right-wing.
    Russia flirted with the right a lot in the period before the NWO. That's just a little point.
    At the same time, the New Communist Party of Britain, the Communist Party of the USA, the Communist Party of Brazil, the Marxist Communist Party of India and many others came out in support of the NWO. There are those who did not support, but at the same time they believe that NATO is also to blame.
    So a "left turn" would give Russia at least no less, but rather more, than a right turn.
  33. Panzerjäger
    Panzerjäger 23 November 2022 07: 08
    +1
    Yeah, "Pernonism", "Salazarism" ... and how did it end? We will definitely come to the fact that we will become "Upper Volta with rockets."
    No, of course, the top will simply be delighted with such prospects when they are covered in chocolate, and any, even cautious, grumbling of the dissatisfied is burned out with a red-hot iron. Physically burned out, not figuratively. But most of the people don't need that.
    Well, about the fact that the "rights" all rushed to kiss on the gums with Russia. Figwam is a national Indian dwelling. Most of the "rightists" - the Nazi, fascist, nationalist parties and groups - simply ardently supported the Uro-Reich, and not only supported, but thousands of their members poured into the Ukro-Reich to fight for the "purity of the white race." So the author gives wishful thinking.
  34. north 2
    north 2 23 November 2022 08: 48
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    The article is correct, but clearly discriminatory. The discrimination lies in the fact that it publishes the names in Ukraine of those advocating the seizure of Russian territory in the Crimea, but for some reason there are no names of those who lead a strong party in the Kremlin, as they say in an article that advocates the surrender of Russia. The article only reports that there is such a strong party in the Kremlin, and that's it. Why are the names of the leaders of this party not reported?
    Speaking of Russia's vital need to change, the million-strong army of the Peskovs, Zatulins, Kalashnikovs, Medinskys, Abramovichs, etc., does not experience such a need. And how many more are there in MO? So maybe they are leading this pariah of capitulators? Or are they only the presidium of this party, and then who is the leader?
    Well, if the capitulators also settled in many cells of the party at the local level, then all the more there is discrimination, well, not a privilege, not to publish the leaders of this party.
  35. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 23 November 2022 09: 33
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    Shoigu may decide to withdraw troops to the Kuban in order to save money, after Kherson I will not be surprised at anything. It was high time to take Odessa and Nikolaev, so no, we ran away from Kherson, Russian territory, well done, what can I say.
  36. Terran ghost
    Terran ghost 23 November 2022 11: 04
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    isolate as much as possible from the world in the format of Iran / North Korea and try to survive as a world outcast, or become a vassal of China

    Well, Sev. Korea is already a vassal of China. Precisely because the local tyrant rulers have brought the country to the status of an "international pariah". The mechanism of such dependence works very simply - it is China that can choose whether to trade with the North. Korea in violation of the sanctions imposed by the UN Security Council (which China COULD block, but decided NOT to DO ;) ), or start demonstratively carefully implementing these sanctions. But Kim Jong-un (the name is written with a small letter on purpose) no longer has such a luxury, he cannot replace China with Japan or the countries of the European Union as the main trading partner, sanctions, sir;)
  37. zontov79
    zontov79 23 November 2022 14: 18
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    This is a real scenario, until the Zelensky clown's words do not diverge from his deeds. Unlike ours.
  38. oleg-nekrasov-19
    oleg-nekrasov-19 23 November 2022 15: 55
    -2
    If some people think that a naked army with mixed weapons and 50%, consisting of "soldiers of fortune" without a solarium, with summer tires on British armored cars with problems in the country's energy system (big problems for today) will go to the Crimea, they are wrong. As for Russia's missile reserves, the Kyiv authorities really count them ... with every missile strike. I like how D.A. Medvedev said on this subject in his telegram channel: "The enemies continue to carefully "calculate" our launches and our supplies. They hope in vain that our capabilities will be depleted. To be continued. Enough for everyone!" The enemy will be defeated! Victory will be ours!!
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    Quote: paul3390
    The structure needs to be changed.

    Alas, it will not work out, history repeats itself twice, once as a tragedy, the second as a farce. Everyone remembers how the late communists themselves ruined everything, because there was no feedback from the population ...
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    Down 23 November 2022 23: 07
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    Quote: rotkiv04
    to change the situation, Russia needs to re-elect (change) the president, Putin is not the right person to change the situation, he does not serve the people and Russia, he serves the national bourgeoisie, and all his correct words are purely camouflage

    That's right, but who do you think he should serve? You, the people, for this you need one thing, a real influence on the government, but where is it? No. Then you were rightly told that from a change in the place of the terms, the amount does not change.
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    Quote: Lyuba1965_01
    The idea is certainly interesting.
    But who would you like to propose instead of him?

    Good question.
    1. And who will be when he is gone, a vacuum?
    2. In this situation, neither he nor his other associates will change the essence.
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    Down 23 November 2022 23: 11
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    Quote: ZAV69
    Until Vova comes to the conclusion that the peace party in the Kremlin must be quickly and without fuss shot or hanged, there will be no sense. Or does he not have the resources for such an event? It is already clear that they cannot be re-educated.

    He will never come to this, it's simply not possible, he will rely on whom, on you, of course you will protect him)) That's the answer.
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    Quote: ZAV69
    Read Zakhar Prilepin. He has written about this at least 5 times. Everything is simple there: part of the elite wants to return everything back, and part does not want to.
    That's why we do not turn on the mode of total war. And without this mode, there will be no victory. Vova has already tried a couple of times to put the elite in such a position that there is no way out but to fight until victory. So I get out the cattle, I try to kick everything.

    I wonder what Zakhar will say if his billions and, as a result, his personal army are taken away from him?
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    Quote: JcVai
    Because society is in limbo.
    There is an "old / Soviet" generation and their pupils on the concepts of honor, justice, duty ... and there is a "new Russian" generation brought up by "modernity" on "loot conquers evil" - whoever has more money is right.
    But this does not work, because the first requires reciprocity, at least in terms of honesty and responsibility, and the second does not have enough funds.

    Too primitive, being determines consciousness, children always copy their parents, while they are young and fed, rebels and so on, and when they earn their own bread, they change and copy their parents, say not everyone, then they are all geniuses, if they can do, then what do you know could not...
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    Down 23 November 2022 23: 23
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    Quote from Ronrew
    On the one hand, I agree, but considering what kind of "game" is going on, I also understand the commentator. I myself have a complete dissonance from the news coming from the NWO zone and the actions of our government. At the same time, both the desire to "rush" to the SVO as a volunteer, and at the same time the understanding that you may have to shoot at those with whom you played in the sandbox in the early 80s (they are bad, but their own) and the desire to join the "ukrams" in order to get to the supreme and his cronies and pay them tribute for their betrayal, lies and cowardice. I really hope that among our military there will be people who will be able to "reason" our government, otherwise the country will simply disappear.

    There is no need to worry, everything is going as it should be. Read or watch materials about the first world "imperialist", you are amazing, a complete coincidence. And in general, there is a historical fact, under the bourgeoisie, we never won anything, I will not write why, the fact itself is enough.
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    Quote: Nikolai Malyugin
    Right-wing forces have already defined the country in the last century. What came out of this is clear to everyone. Crimea is needed not so much by Ukrainians as by Americans. To consolidate control in the Black Sea. They were prevented by the intervention of first Luzhkov, then Putin. And to see the appetite of this peninsula has not disappeared. Crimea is worth it to increase strike power in a neighboring country.

    You want to say that defending the Crimea will be what? To be resolved hidden, various contradictions within the society? No. God alone knows how it all ends or in what form. It's just that any war a priori exacerbates and exposes contradictions in society. But they exist and are unsolvable. For example, the unwillingness of many to volunteer is connected with this, the thought sits latently, to fight for whom?
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    Quote from Gromit
    We need tanks, guns, missiles, shells, UAVs, communications, uniforms, hospitals ... - better than the enemy, more than the enemy. This is what is needed.
    There will be military superiority - any idea will do

    Can you give an example of where and when it worked in Russia, there is no socialism, there is imperialism and there are real examples of the First World War, everything was the same up to the point. They also said what was needed, but in the end ..?
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    Down 23 November 2022 23: 41
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    Quote from: FoBoss_VM
    And you know colleagues, sadly, but I’m not at all surprised by the surrender of Crimea. Until recently, I was sure that they would not leave Kherson, they would connect ALL the capabilities of the Armed Forces of the RF Ministry of Defense (and they were, you could simply destroy the group all there with massive carpet bombing and a lot more could be done if they gave the military the go-ahead), but they would not leave. The shock was incredible and even how they furnished it with a bunch of reasons to leave from there, but there was not one to stay. And after all, in addition to a purely military defeat in the form of the loss of a very important bridgehead on the right bank, from which it was possible to develop an attack on Nikolaev and Odessa (and it is not yet known how many people will be put down when they take it back, if of course), but worse than that, reputational losses, return them much more difficult, if at all possible. Softened and Putin's inability to make important decisions is already starting to frighten; they rushed headlong into the pool, but didn’t think how to get out ... Now I’m more than sure that while Putin is surrounded by all those who are now, nothing will change. The time will come and he will not hesitate to come up with a thousand reasons to leave Crimea, the Ukrainians, together with NATO, will cross the land corridor, the bridge will be blown up and Putin will also say that due to the inability to supply Crimea by sea, it was decided to redeploy troops to Rostov, to the Kuban and to Novorossiysk. And everyone will say yes, this is strategically correct and then we will return everything. Probably... but it's not certain. Putin will say that this was precisely his goal and everyone will believe it, because no other sane goals were announced. Now tell me fellow members of the forum, after the Kiev Sumy gestures of goodwill, after soft-assed grain deals, after sending Azov militants instead of a scaffold to Turkey with new iPhones with the direct participation of Abramovich's geek, after failing to resolve the issue of stopping the supply of any weapons to Ukraine and destroying communications , after the Kharkov flight, after leaving the bridgehead on the right bank and leaving Kherson, is everything that I wrote really a fantastic scenario for the development of events? I'm personally not surprised by anything. I’m not an all-rounder, but I’m not a hat-throwing urapatriot either. I really look at things and events and try to soberly analyze the situation

    Stunned, but there his first two terms have already shown everything, it turns out not ....
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    Quote: Kronos
    All this is understandable, it is not clear why the author calls for right-wing autocracy? After all, it will be exactly such a regime of open dictatorship, similar to the Ukrainian one, and there will be no industry and no rise.

    Yes, do not pay attention to the author, now they write a lot of things, the point is not what is needed, but the desire of one with the company, you were not asked about the desire to privatize, make war, and so on, all that remains is to observe.
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    Down 23 November 2022 23: 52
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    Quote: Victor Sergeev
    Shoigu may decide to withdraw troops to the Kuban in order to save money, after Kherson I will not be surprised at anything. It was high time to take Odessa and Nikolaev, so no, we ran away from Kherson, Russian territory, well done, what can I say.

    It doesn't work, no matter why, it just doesn't work. And if you try, the result will be twofold, on the one hand, maybe we’ll take it, but there will be a lot of funerals, and this is the reason for the rebellion, this is exactly what you should be afraid of, since you yourself will use the fruits, you know who, and for what they put ordinary guys, then will not be clear. Here is your dilemma.