Azerbaijan accuses Armenian military of shelling border areas

The servicemen of the Azerbaijani army opened fire on the positions of the Armenian Armed Forces tonight, using various weapons, including mortars. The incident took place in the eastern part of the border between the two Transcaucasian states.

This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Armenia.

They noted that the actions of the Azerbaijani military are a violation of the ceasefire. But at the same time, Yerevan reported that there were no losses among the military of the republic. By morning the situation at the border had stabilized.

In turn, Azerbaijan accuses the Armenian military of night shelling of the border areas where Azerbaijani positions are located.

The units of the Armed Forces of Armenia were subjected to fire from various caliber rifles intermittently. weapons positions of the Azerbaijani army

- the press service of the Defense Ministry of Azerbaijan reports.

The Ministry of Defense emphasized that the shooting was carried out not only from Armenia, but also from "the territory of Azerbaijan, where Russian peacekeepers are temporarily stationed." That is how it is now customary to call Nagorno-Karabakh in Baku.

Azerbaijan noted that their military had to take "adequate measures" in response to the actions of Armenia.

Recently, the mutual accusations of Baku and Yerevan in violations of the ceasefire regime have become much more frequent. The two republics of Transcaucasia agreed on its introduction in September.

Comments

[Man from afar]

That's what a visit to the USA does! symbols symbols symbols for site administration

[Cat Alexandrovich]

Yes, those symbols! The VO administration itself does not know how to write news - briefly and clearly - it pours water in buckets! And it requires the same from its users!

[Vladimir80]

An endless story, even the persuasion of the "world peacekeepers" of the United States did not help, probably because the Russian soldiers were not withdrawn (sarcasm).

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

The West is leading provocations in all directions, which will play aggravating consequences forever. Trust will never be between us and them in the future. We must remember, we must know, not to have any illusions and sympathy for the Western world. We are not on our way, and dialogue can only be on the terms of our economic benefit, without cultural exchange, without cooperation in the field of security and peace.

[Romanovski]

"""... Do not feel sorry for the Armenians! A nation of buyers and sellers ... "".
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Filter the bazaar, smart guy... Armenians have always fought and will continue to fight, and most of the citizens of Armenia have always been and WILL BE FOR RUSSIA... For your information and for the information of your kind: for the entire time of the NWO in Ukraine - 5 (five! .. .Karl) Heroes of Russia have Armenian surnames, and if you have any doubts, I can send the official list for you personally ... And you didn’t accidentally forget about how over the past 15 years (Pashinyan was not in power then ...) - RF, Belarus, Kazakhstan (members of the CSTO ... by the way ... like Armenia) - SOLD AZERBAIJAN offensive weapons worth many billions of dollars AGAINST Armenia .... ??? Forgot ??? Or unprofitable
remember this and it is easier to blame the Armenians themselves??? Or in the Russian Federation and Belarus (Kazakhstan can still be understood ... the Turkic people) were so naive that they could not guess against whom these weapons would be used ????

[Seal]

And why did you take only the last 15 years? Why not 30 years? Or would you consciously want to exclude that period of arms sales to Azerbaijan, when he was a member of the CSTO? So this is a dirty trick.
Personally, your constant mention of the CSTO makes me laugh. When you, a "patriot businessman", as you previously called yourself, without specifying what exactly you are a patriot of, will finally understand that the CSTO had something to do with the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict only when both your countries, and Armenia and Azerbaijan, were members of the CSTO.
In principle, your countries could not be accepted into the Defensive Alliance at all, since you were at war with each other. But then we naively believed that this conflict could be more easily resolved within the framework of one organization. It didn't work out. It turned out that it was not easier. And Azerbaijan, offended by our then strongly pro-Armenian position, did not prolong its membership in the ODB in 1999. And this is where we made our second mistake. We had to either keep Azerbaijan in the CSTO with all our might, or exclude or at least freeze Armenia's membership in the CSTO. We have done neither. As a result, the victim of aggression left the CSTO, but the aggressor remained.
More about the aggressor and why the CSTO has nothing to do with your conflict.
Here I wrote in October 2020.

Why the leadership of Armenia is AFRAID to seek help from the CSTO.
The Collective Security Treaty has Article 4
If one of the participating States is subjected to aggression (an armed attack threatening security, stability, territorial integrity and sovereignty), it will be considered by the participating States as aggression (armed attack threatening security, stability, territorial integrity and sovereignty) to all states parties to this Agreement.
In the event of an aggression (an armed attack threatening security, stability, territorial integrity and sovereignty) to any of the participating States, all other participating States will, at the request of that participating State, immediately provide it with the necessary assistance, including military, as well as support from their disposal of funds in the exercise of the right to collective defense in accordance with Article 51 of the UN Charter.
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So, CSTO members come to the aid of a CSTO member state only if the CSTO member country itself has undergone AGGRESSION.
See the term Aggression (as defined by the UN).
a) the invasion or attack of the armed forces of a state on the territory of another state or any military occupation, no matter how temporary it may be, resulting from such an invasion or attack, or any annexation using force of the territory of another state or part of it;
And what happens?
And it turns out that Armenia has long been an aggressor against Azerbaijan.
And if Azerbaijan strikes even at Armenia itself, the question whether this strike can be considered aggression is a debatable issue. For aggression against the aggressor is nonsense.
In any case, the issue will be brought up for discussion at the Session of the CSTO Collective Security Council. It is clear that at the Session of the Council Armenia will insist that she is a victim of aggression. But the decision will be made by voting. Moreover, for a decision to be made, all the CSTO member states must vote for it unanimously.
And the probability of this is around 0,001%.
Armenia is afraid of this refusal.
Therefore, it is easier for the Armenian leadership to pretend that it does not want to apply to the CSTO than to explain to the people later why the CSTO of Armenia refused to help.
For the official refusal of the CSTO to help Armenia can completely demoralize both Armenia and the Armenian army.

Do you not understand all this?

[Romanovski]

What are you talking nonsense??? Name the time and date when Azerbaijan joined the CSTO ....

[Two]

Well, if you are a major Dashnak - a theoretician, then you can be understood on paper! But sorry! I, as part of SO and VOGs, rode there to my heart's content, during the collapse of the Union! And I was in Sumgayit, though much later than the purge. So keep these songs for yourself, as a consolation!

[Romanovski]

""... And I was in Sumgayit, though much later than the purge ..."".
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Purges??? What cleaning??? That's right - that you were in Sumgayit AFTER all the horrors that happened there during the murders of Armenians and you could not see and understand much ...

[Cat Alexandrovich]

How many peoples have been swallowed up by the abyss of history. So the Armenians are also merrily and lively striving for their finale. And they really don't feel sorry for them.

[Romanovski]

""... Yes, you never know the peoples swallowed up by the abyss of history. So the Armenians are also merrily and lively striving for their finale. And they really don't feel sorry for them..."
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Seriously??? How would you - a provocateur with such a respectable feline name "Cat" (in boots ...?) answer so that the site moderator is not offended ...
Cat - Better think about the fate of your people ... Or do you think that only your people are the most ???

[Consultant]

One of the features of the Internet is that who knows who can write to who knows, under different pseudonyms. So, some Negro from Papua New Guinea can correspond with some red-haired Anglo-Saxon, as if there is a dialogue between an Eskimo and a Chukchi.

[rotmistr60]

Again 25. Even the "great" Biden could not influence those who see each other as an enemy, and between there are territorial claims.

shooting was carried out not only from Armenia, but also from "the territory of Azerbaijan, where Russian peacekeepers are temporarily deployed."

Whom did they want to steal away or once again testify to the ownership of the territory and the unwillingness of the presence of Russian peacekeepers?

[ASM]

Yes, until our peacekeepers stand between them and introduce the demilitarized zone, as it has already been, nothing will change. Only the Russian Federation will be able to restore order there.

[yuriy55]

Azerbaijan accuses Armenian military of shelling border areas

And there were no meetings and agreements...

[Consultant]

But it cannot be that, apart from Russia, Armenia and Azerbaijan, some 4th side is secretly present, which arranges provocations?

[Romanovski]

""... And there seemed to be no meetings and agreements...".
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Aliyev pretends that it was not ....

[APASUS]

As soon as the Americans gathered to defend Baku, the conflict immediately escalated.
And who would have thought what kind of accidents happen ..........

[Seal]

From the Armenian side, everything is done correctly. If Pashinyan recently officially declared in Sochi that "Russian peacekeepers should be in Karabakh ... as he said by the way, either "for a very long time", or "forever" - then it is logical that his subordinates immediately saluted and all began to demonstrate by force that there is no peace in Karabakh and therefore peacekeepers cannot be withdrawn.

[Two]

There will be another "Palestinian" near our borders, with the task of itching and stinking, annoying the Russian Federation. Until the old people, on both sides, with the participation of authoritative people, do not solve this problem and sign agreements on the demarcation and delimitation of borders, there will be no sense!

[sat2004]

Explain, if the card is consistent, what is the problem? On what map is Azerbaijan going to draw the border? Russia and Armenia have already agreed on the map.

[Romanovski]

""...Explain, if the card is agreed, what is the problem? On what map is Azerbaijan going to draw the border? Russia and Armenia have already agreed on the map..."".
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And Turkey and NATO probably strictly forbade Azerbaijan to sign any papers that would be in the interests of the Russian Federation and Armenia at least in some way ...

[Romanovski]

""... On what map is Azerbaijan going to draw the border? .."".
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The task of Azerbaijan (= Turkey = NATO = USA) is to provoke another war in the Transcaucasus, i.e. - in the southern underbelly of Russia, but after accusing Armenia of this and the whole World of not wanting (it has the right. ..in a tripartite document dated 9.11.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX, the word "corridor" was mentioned ONLY in the context of the Lachin corridor under the control of the RF Ministry of Justice ...) to provide Azerbaijan with a corridor (?! = give to Azerbaijan) through ITS territory to Nakhichevan ... Azerbaijan "forgets", that Armenia is not at all opposed to UNBLOCKING ALL transport communications and is ready to provide THROUGH ITS (!) TERRITORY CONNECTIONS BETWEEN AZERBAIJAN and Nakhichevan ... But, Armenia is AGAINST losing sovereignty over ITS territory under the pretext of a corridor and the MOST IMPORTANT --- LOSE AFTER THIS LAND CONNECTION AND THE BORDER WITH IRAN... By the way, IRAN is also categorically (!!!... putting it mildly...) AGAINST any extraterritorial corridors that are designed to CHANGE the borders in Transcaucasia... Iran even WARNED Baku in OPEN text, to about they didn’t even think about changing the borders in Transcaucasia and even began large-scale military exercises on the borders of Azerbaijan, and Azerbaijan continues its incomprehensible gestures in favor of Turkey, Israel and the United States ... Moreover, high-ranking military officials from Israel have become frequent in Baku, and the other day they themselves The United States announced that they would not allow Iran to offend (!?!?) Azerbaijan ... Conclusion: NATO (USA) and Israel want to unleash a war against Iran, but, as usual, they are true to their false and crafty traditions and will first blame Iran for this ... That's the whole point...

[Romanovski]

""... After all, Azerbaijan violated 4 UN resolutions, fired at the civilian population of Artsakh with phosphorus and cluster bombs ...".
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You are right... Absolutely...

[Seal]

Quote: Dos

Until the old people, on both sides, with the participation of authoritative people, do not solve this problem and sign agreements on the demarcation and delimitation of borders, there will be no sense!

In my opinion, it is the older generation that is the engine of this conflict. The Armenian youth, to a large extent, has long been mentally in Europe and the United States, and therefore they are quite calmly ready to agree to the borders drawn according to the maps of the General Staff of the Red Army of 1942, presented to the Armenian and Azerbaijani side by our Defense Ministry.

[sat2004]

So these cards are being negotiated?
Where does the information come from?

[Romanovski]

""... Armenian youth in large part has long been mentally in Europe and the USA ..."" .
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What are you talking about??!! Seriously ??? What do you think about your youth? I advise you not to speak here on behalf of the Armenian youth and do not subscribe here for ALL Armenian youth ...

[Seal]

Quote: sat2004

Russia and Armenia have already agreed on the map.

Really? But Vladimir Vladimirovich at a press conference after the summit on October 31.10.2022, XNUMX in Sochi said something completely different. There were not even hints that Russia and Armenia agreed on something there.
According to the glory of the President of Russia, even the maps of our General Staff have not yet been provided, but can only be provided.

....we are ready to provide the maps at our disposal of the General Staff of the Soviet Army.

[Seal]

Quote from Romanovski

What are you talking nonsense??? Name the time and date when Azerbaijan joined the CSTO ....

Well, again, rudeness. No, to culturally ask: "Uncle, because of my age, education (or other reasons, you can add to your taste) I don’t know anything about the history of the formation of the CSTO, and I don’t know how to use the Internet search and that the CSTO has its own official website, I have no idea, please tell me when Azerbaijan joined the CSTO" - so instead of this, the expression "nonsense" using poking.

Oh well, it's not the first time people like you have spilled all this on various sites on the Internet.
In the order of educational program I explain. Azerbaijan joined the CSTO on September 24, 1993.
And the Collective Security Treaty entered into force after its ratification by all states - parties to the Treaty 20 April 1994 of the year.

[Seal]

Quote from Romanovski

""... Armenian youth in large part has long been mentally in Europe and the USA ..."" .
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What are you talking about??!! Seriously ??? What do you think about your youth? I advise you not to speak here on behalf of the Armenian youth and do not subscribe here for ALL Armenian youth ...

Yes, I actually need your advice .... They work in our organization on a contract basis among repair teams, including repair teams consisting of Armenians. Approximately 50/50. Half from Krasnodar. Stavropol Territory and Rostov Region, and half from Armenia itself. More than 75% of employees from Armenia itself are represented by people under 35 years old. None of them went to "war" during the 44-day war. There wasn't even an attempt.
By the way, what about the Internet? Have you been banned in all search engines, or what? Couldn't they find the CSTO website without me??

[Seal]

Quote from Romanovski

the other day, the United States itself announced that it would not allow Iran to offend (!?!?) Azerbaijan ... Conclusion:

And shortly before that, Speaker of the US House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi, during her visit to Yerevan, stated

"We are here to say the US will support democracy in Armenia"

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And also

Washington is ready to hear Yerevan's defense needs.

Well, what is the conclusion from this?

[Seal]

Quote from Romanovski

for the entire time of the NWO in Ukraine - 5 (five! ... Karl) Heroes of Russia have Armenian surnames, and if you have doubts, I can send the official list for you personally

Among the "Heroes of Ukraine" there are also Armenian surnames.
But you can look even deeper. Who actually played the main role in the creation of the nationalist Armed Forces of Ukraine?
We look from one Ukrainian site. Copied by me before the start of CBO:

General Vilen Martirosyan In 1957 he graduated from a secondary school in the city of Ganja. In 1963 he graduated from the Kiev School of Communications. In 1972 he graduated from the Military Academy of Communications. S.M. Budyonny. In 1959-1991. served in the Soviet Army in the following positions: commander of a platoon, company, battalion, deputy regiment commander, chief of staff of a brigade, commander of a separate regiment. In 1966-1968, he was a deputy of the district council of the city of Yerevan of the Armenian SSR. In 1986-1988, he was a deputy of the city council of Rivne (Ukraine). 1990-1994 - a deputy of the Rivne regional council. In 1989-1991 - Deputy Chairman of the socio-political organization "People's Movement of Ukraine" - Chairman of the Council of Nationalities of the NRU. In 1991, he was one of the organizers of the military-patriotic organization "Union of Officers of Ukraine", became its first chairman, created regional organizations of the SOU in all regions of Ukraine. The activities of the SOU headed by V.A. Martirosyan laid the foundation for the formation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. His regiment was the first to leave the subordination of the USSR Ministry of Defense and entered the subordination of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, raising the national flag on its territory. In 1991-1992, Vilen Martirosyan, through the Union of Officers of Ukraine, organized the swearing of all servicemen and those liable for military service to the people of Ukraine, which laid the foundation for the construction of the Armed Forces as a guarantor of the independence of Ukraine. The Union of Officers of Ukraine under the leadership of V.A. Martirosyan made a lot of efforts to staff the newly created Ministry of Defense..

Pay attention to: "His (Martirosyan's) regiment was the first to leave the subordination of the USSR Ministry of Defense and entered the subordination of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, raising the national flag on its territory. In 1991-1992 - Vilen Martirosyan, through the Union of Officers of Ukraine, organized the taking of the oath by all military personnel and those liable for military service for allegiance to the people of Ukraine, what was the beginning of the construction of the Armed Forces as a guarantor of the independence of Ukraine.

About the participation of Armenians (and Azerbaijanis) in the so-called ATO. I made a list at the beginning of 2015. Now there are undoubtedly much more Armenian and Azerbaijani surnames in this list.
And then the Armenians fought hand in hand with the Azerbaijanis in the Ukrainian terrorist battalions. We look at the list of "dead".
The list died in the ATO.
1) Lieutenant Colonel MAMADALIEV Volodimir Gaibovich - 4 Lipnya 2014
2) Art. Lieutenant MAKARYAN Yevgen Valeriyovich - 30 April 2014
3) Soldier of Ibrahimov Farіs Rasim-ogli - 21 Lipnya 2014
4) Fight the battalion "Aidar" Aliev Iolch Afi-ogli (Ruslan Aliev) - Lipnaya 27, 2014
5) Fighting the battalion of territorial defense "Aidar". Petrosyan Hovhannes Harutyunovich 41 rivers. БУв the participant of the Revolutionary Gidnosti - 23 sickness 2014
6) Fighter of reconnaissance to the battalion "Aidar" Kvach Orest Arsenovich - 27 Lipnya 2014
Numbers 4 and 6 not only fight in the same battalion - they also die on the same day (maybe they shot each other?
Here, at 3 minutes 20 seconds, an Armenian Banderite killed in the Red Partizan (alas, the link may no longer work)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqeJLaWeBto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFxtqrPMVF0

But the Ukrainians are going to give the Armenian (and with a Russian surname and name) the “Hero of Ukraine” for his exploits in the so-called ATO zone. But if he becomes a “Hero of Ukraine”, then only POST-DEATHLY.
http://ru.1in.am/1081503.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6eCcUBufcM&t=147