Tragic "Game of Thrones" in Ptolemaic Hellenistic Egypt

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Tragic "Game of Thrones" in Ptolemaic Hellenistic Egypt
Frame from the film "Cleopatra", 1963

Article Hellenistic Ptolemaic Egypt little was told about the death of Alexander the Great, the rivalry between the Diadochi, Ptolemy I Soter, who founded a new state in Egypt, as well as about his first successors. Today we will continue this story.

Other Ptolemies



Strabo wrote about the Egyptian rulers:



"All the kings after the third Ptolemy, spoiled by a life of luxury, managed state affairs worse than their predecessors."

And, indeed, Ptolemy III proved to be the last capable and powerful ruler of Hellenistic Egypt. Under his descendants, the state steadily declined, weakened, but still found the strength and means to maintain the splendor of the magnificent Alexandria, in comparison with which many other capitals looked hopelessly provincial. Rome was no exception, which at that time was still "brick" - it became "marble" only from the time of the reign of Octavian Augustus.

It was said about Ptolemy IV that he was sober only when he participated in divine services.


Tetradrachm of Ptolemy IV

We remember that the lineage of the new rulers of Egypt claimed descent from Dionysus, and starting from Ptolemy IV, in Alexandria they began to arrange mysteries dedicated to this god. It was from that time that the Alexandrian court became famous for unheard-of luxury and undisguised debauchery. Here is such a two-story palace barge measuring 115 by 14 meters and 20 meters high (talamegas) was built for Ptolemy IV and his wife Arsinoe III around 200 BC:


And this is how N. Witsen depicted thalamegas in 1671:


Under Ptolemy IV, for the first time, a 20-strong corps was recruited from local residents for the war with the Seleucid state, and this then led to unrest in Egypt. The fact is that after the victory in that war, the Egyptians participating in it realized that they could successfully fight against the Macedonians and Greeks, who formed the basis of the armies of all the Hellenistic states. A similar situation arose in the colonies of European countries after the end of World War II: the veterans of the "native" combat units who returned home told everyone that the French and British were not super soldiers at all, but modern weapons and they themselves now know how to use it, and no worse than the "masters".

The throne of Ptolemy IV was inherited by his young son, known by the nickname Theos Epiphanes - "The Appeared to God."


Tetradrachm of Ptolemy V

Power in the country was in the hands of the favorites of the former king - the priest Sosibius and the sister of his mistress Agathocles, who killed the mother of the new ruler. However, they were soon overthrown and executed by Tlepolem, the strategist of Pelusius. Tlepolem was a good military leader, but not a very good manager and administrator. A year later, he was replaced as regent by Aristomenes, the head of the royal bodyguards and friend of the murdered Agathocles. He turned out to be completely different from the favorite of the former king. Polybius, for example, calls it "excellent and virtuous ruler". But Ptolemy V was burdened by the care of Aristomenes and, in the end, ordered him to drink hemlock tincture.

The wife of Ptolemy V was a cousin - the daughter of the ruler of the Seleucid state Antiochus III. It was she who was the first queen of Egypt, who bore the name Cleopatra.

Ptolemy V died at the age of only 28, having accomplished nothing worth mentioning. The young Ptolemy VI Philometor (“Loving mother”) became the new king.


Tetradrachm of Ptolemy VI

His advisers, Evleus and Leney, dragged Egypt into the war with Seleucid Antiochus IV, lost it, and the young Ptolemy VI was captured by his uncle. Army commanders overthrew Euleus and Leney, the younger brother of the captured king, Ptolemy VIII (the seventh in this dynasty is considered the son of Ptolemy VI Philometor), who began to rule in Alexandria, ascended the throne. And in Memphis, Antiochus IV appointed Ptolemy VI, who had been captured by him, as ruler. Thus, the country was divided into 2 parts. Antiochus IV soon resumed hostilities: he moved troops to Alexandria and captured Cyprus. The Ptolemaic dynasty was on the verge of collapse, but was saved by the Romans, who for the first time decisively intervened in the affairs of this country. They are just then, after the victorious battles of Pydna, ended the war with Macedonia and got the opportunity to do other things. Egypt, as we remember, was the largest food producer in the Mediterranean, and the Egyptian kings were already known as obedient and reliable suppliers of bread to Italy. The Romans did not want change. Ambassador Gaius Popillius Lenat demanded that Antiochus withdraw the Syrian troops from Egypt, and he did not dare to object.

For 5 years, two kings ruled in the Ptolemaic state at once, but then a high-ranking official Dionysius, who also had the Egyptian name Petosarapis, revolted in favor of his younger brother. He was defeated, but the second attempt of Ptolemy VIII was successful, and the older brother was forced to flee to Rome. After listening to him, the Senate decided to divide the country between the brothers. Ptolemy VI received Egypt and Cyprus, Ptolemy VIII - Cyrenaica. In the future, the younger brother tried more than once to seize power in Egypt and Cyprus, but did not succeed. But Ptolemy VI intervened in the war of pretenders to the throne of the Seleucid state and died, having received many wounds during one of the battles. His son ascended the throne under the name of Ptolemy VII, but was killed on the wedding day of his mother, Cleopatra II, and his uncle, that same Ptolemy VIII.


Head of a statue of Ptolemy VII, Archaeological Museum, Athens

Now Ptolemy VIII became the sole ruler. Soon he married the daughter of his wife (who was also his older sister): his stepdaughter-niece became Queen Cleopatra III. It is not known if Ptolemy VIII divorced her mother before this.


Ptolemy VIII, Cleopatra II and Cleopatra III, temple relief in the city of Kom Ombo

Both Ptolemy VIII and Cleopatra III were unloved by the people. Ptolemy was officially called Euergetes - "Benefactor", but behind his back everyone called him Fiskon - "Belly". And Cleopatra III received from the Alexandrians the indecent nickname "Kokke" (a slang term for female genitalia). Among other things, Ptolemy VIII distinguished himself by separating Cyrenaica from the possessions of Egypt, transferring it to his son Apion, who, having died in 96 BC. e. childless, bequeathed this province to Rome. Thus, in the west of the African coast, the borders of Rome were as close as possible to the capital of Egypt - Alexandria. In addition, only in Cyrenaica, on a territory of only about 200 km in length and 50 km in width, the medicinal plant sylphium, which was extremely valued at that time, grew, which was exported even to India. Various properties were attributed to him, but contraceptive was considered the main one. Predatory production of silphium led to its complete disappearance. Now in the mountains of Iran, Afghanistan and Tajikistan, the closest relative of the silphium, asafoetida, is found. According to ancient authors, it tastes very similar to silphium and can replace it as a seasoning. However, it is completely devoid of contraceptive properties.


Silphium and its seeds on the coins of Cyrenaica

But let's return to Egypt of the time of Ptolemy VIII, who, in the end, was forced to flee with his wife-niece and children from her to Cyprus. The country began to be ruled by Cleopatra II Philometor Soter (Loving Mother Savior), but her ex-husband did not calm down. Ordering to kill his son from Cleopatra II, in whom he saw a competitor, Ptolemy launched hostilities against his sister and ex-wife, expelling her to Syria. He later reconciled with her, and Cleopatra lived in Alexandria as a "queen-sister" (and her daughter bore the title "queen-wife"). This king, the most cruel of all the Ptolemies, died in his bed - in 116 BC. e. He bequeathed the throne to Cleopatra III, who was to choose one of his sons as co-ruler. Such, at the request of the people, was the eldest son - Ptolemy IX "Philometor", who for some reason was called Lafur or Latir by the people (literally - "Lamb's peas", the origin and meaning of this nickname are not clear). Contrary to the official nickname of this king (“Loving mother”), he and Cleopatra III could not stand each other.


The coronation of Ptolemy IX, to the right and left of him are two queens - Cleopatra III and Cleopatra II - his mother and grandmother. Temple relief at Kom Ombo

Cleopatra III's favorite was another son, Alexander (who, according to some authors, killed her).


Head of a statue of Ptolemy X Alexander (granite). "New Museum", Berlin

Ptolemy IX Lafur was forced to flee to Cyprus, and from there to Seleucia. Cleopatra tried to get him there too, but the war in Palestine ended in a "draw". After the death of his mother, Ptolemy entrenched himself in Cyprus, and her beloved son Ptolemy X Alexander began to rule Egypt. Posidonius claims that this king was extremely fat, and could not even recover (go to the toilet) on his own - he was supported by servants. But at the same time

“when it came to dancing on booze, he jumped barefoot from a high bed and danced more lively than inveterate dancers.”

The people did not like him, everything ended with the expulsion from Alexandria. He tried to return with an army of Jewish mercenaries recruited in Palestine. To pay them off, he sold the golden sarcophagus of Alexander the Great (later another sarcophagus was created - already crystal). However, the Alexandrians called Ptolemy IX from Cyprus. Alexander, trying to capture the island, was defeated in a naval battle and was killed.

Meanwhile, Ptolemy IX of the children survived only the daughter of Berenice III. Previously, she was the wife of her uncle - the same Ptolemy Alexander X. Berenice ruled on her own for six months, but in 80 BC. e. married Ptolemy XI - the son of her ex-husband from another woman (that is, her stepson). This boy was captured by the troops of the Pontic king Mithridates VI Eupator on the island of Kos. After the defeat in the war with Rome, Mithridates handed over the prince to Sulla, who now sent him to Alexandria, hoping that in Egypt he would become an obedient puppet of Rome. Already 19 days after the wedding, Ptolemy XI ordered the murder of his wife, after which he was literally torn to pieces by a crowd of rebellious Alexandrians.

Ptolemy XII, his brother and children


Meanwhile, Ptolemy XI was the last legitimate scion of the Ptolemaic dynasty. I had to enthrone one of the illegitimate sons of Ptolemy IX, born of a concubine, who was probably a Greek. So in the veins of his granddaughter, the famous Cleopatra VII, in addition to Macedonian, there was an admixture of Greek blood. This introduction of fresh genetic material turned out to be extremely beneficial, because if there are different opinions about the beauty of Cleopatra, then no one ever doubted her mind, education and leadership qualities. She was certainly a great queen, and almost made Egypt a great state again.

Ptolemy had two illegitimate sons, they were once captured by the Pontics on the island of Kos (together with the future Ptolemy XI) and spent their childhood at the court of King Mithridates VI. Now the eldest of the brothers, under the name of Ptolemy XII, became the king of Egypt, officially he was called Theos Philopator Philadelphus - "God who loves his father and sister." Unofficially, he was called Ptolemy Not (illegitimate). In addition, he had the nicknames "Young Dionysus" (he received it for his passion for religious mysteries) and Avlet - "Flutist" or even "Piper" (and playing the flute was not considered an occupation worthy of a king).


Ptolemy XII. Temple relief at Kom Ombo

His younger brother (also Ptolemy) received Cyprus, but in 58 BC. e. this island was annexed by Rome and he committed suicide.

We remember that Egypt was a strategic food supplier to Italy and Rome. And therefore it was clear that sooner or later the predatory Roman Republic would try to seize this country. Lacking the strength to resist, Ptolemy XII did his best to please Rome. He even sent troops to help Pompey in Judea, which had previously belonged to Egypt, which caused great displeasure in Alexandria. But in Rome for a long time Ptolemy Notus was not recognized as the legitimate ruler. Only thanks to the support of Caesar, who was paid a huge amount of 6 thousand talents, Ptolemy XII nevertheless achieved recognition as the king of Egypt, and also “ally and friend of the Roman people».

This king had six children from different women: two sons and four daughters, one of whom was the famous Cleopatra. But initially her half-sisters showed themselves - Trifaena (who could also be the wife of her father) and Berenice. They rebelled and forced Ptolemy XII to seek help from Rome. The reason for the expulsion of the king was precisely the loss of Cyprus and the cowardly behavior of Ptolemy XII, who did not react to the annexation of the island by Rome. However, it must be admitted that Egypt did not have the strength to go to war with this Mediterranean superpower. At first, the exiled monarch went to Rhodes, where he met with propraetor Mark Porcius Cato the Younger, who accepted "a friend and ally of the Roman people,"sitting on a toilet seat and emptying the bowels”(this perfectly illustrates the attitude of Rome towards the king of the once great state of the Ptolemies). Without refusing directly, the Romans were in no hurry to help. Now, if the rebellious daughters of Ptolemy XII had allowed a disruption in the supply of grain to the Apennines, Rome would have reacted with lightning speed. However, these girls were not suicidal. Finally, the Roman governor in Syria, Aulus Gabinius, decided to intervene, who sent his troops to Egypt without the consent of the Roman authorities. Ptolemy XII was restored to the throne, but Gabinius was fined a huge amount of 10 talents for arbitrariness (which, again, indicates the unwillingness of Rome to spend resources on helping an exile that was not interesting to him). The fate of Trifaena and Berenice was sad: the first had died by that time, the second was executed by order of her father.

Three years later, Ptolemy XII died, having bequeathed his throne to his 13-year-old son and 18-year-old daughter, who was to become his wife. Much to the misfortune of this teenager, who ascended the throne under the name of Ptolemy XIII, his sister and wife was one of the most famous women in the world. stories - Cleopatra VII Philopator.


Ptolemy XIII, bust, Altes Museum, Berlin


Cleopatra, bust, granite, Royal Ontario Museum

Cleopatra had very little chance in the struggle for power, but a civil war broke out in Rome, and Alexandria, after being defeated in battle of Pharsalus, Gnaeus Pompey Magnus arrived, followed by Gaius Julius Caesar himself.


Sculptural portrait of Caesar, Roman National Museum


Ptolemy XIII and his associates meet Caesar. Frame from the film "Cleopatra", 1963

He did not find Pompey in Egypt (only his head), but Cleopatra was delivered to him in a bag of linen. And at that moment the fate of the two younger brothers of this young queen and her younger sister Arsinoe was decided.

The incredible fate of Cleopatra and the fall of Hellenistic Egypt has already been told - in the article The Last of the Ptolemies.
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  1. +5
    9 November 2022 05: 09
    Thank you, Valery.

    The best of this orbit of Ptolemies harassing each other is Cyrene with silphium. Yes, and he was also taken out.
  2. +5
    9 November 2022 05: 28
    Not even a “game of thrones”, but some kind of “jar of scorpions!
    Thank you Valery, Kamrad good day!
  3. +2
    9 November 2022 06: 00
    Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
    Not even a “game of thrones”, but some kind of “jar of scorpions!

    Any power is a jar of scorpions...
  4. +6
    9 November 2022 07: 18
    Power in the country was in the hands of the favorites of the former king - the priest Sosibius and the sister of his mistress Agathocles, who killed the mother of the new ruler. However, they were soon overthrown and executed by Tlepolem.
    Court life was in full swing and not only.
    1. +7
      9 November 2022 07: 50
      You probably know what a royal palace is.
      Behind the wall people are strangled, brothers, sisters.
      They suffocate.
      In a word, everyday everyday life goes on.
      1. +5
        9 November 2022 07: 53
        Court life has changed little since then, it has become more sophisticated. smile
        1. +5
          9 November 2022 08: 17
          Why should she change?
          As Bulgakov's famous character said:

          ordinary people ... in general, resemble the former ...
          1. +5
            9 November 2022 09: 08
            Why should she change?


            And that is true, but it makes no sense, in the serpentarium then. Yes



            Good morning, Sergey! smile
            1. +3
              9 November 2022 10: 19
              Good morning, Constantine!

              Each of us in our own way Horse
              1. VLR
                +5
                9 November 2022 10: 23
                And I myself am a kind-hearted, clever person by nature, I love poetry, prose, music, painting, I love fishing


                This, by the way, is a good characterization of Sulla as a person, and not a political figure. We'll talk about this in the next article.
              2. +3
                9 November 2022 11: 16
                No, we don't need a blacksmith. What am I, a horse, chtol? Why do we need a blacksmith?


                1. +2
                  9 November 2022 14: 10
                  There was no nail - Horseshoe Lost.
                  There was no horseshoe -
                  The horse was lame.
                  Horse lame - Commander Killed.
                  Cavalry defeated -
                  Army Runs.
                  The enemy enters the city, sparing no prisoners,
                  Because in the forge
                  There was no nail.

                  1. +4
                    9 November 2022 14: 36
                    The songs of our regiment are noisy
                    Ringing hooves rang out.
                    Bullets pierced the bottom of the pot,
                    The young maritime woman is killed.
                  2. +1
                    9 November 2022 21: 01
                    "The king drank vigorous
                    Kvass with sandwiches
                    And the conversation from the throne
                    Started with the governors.
                    - I decided the other day,
                    Well, from the third to the fifth,
                    Conquer the neighboring
                    Kingdom Far Far Away.
                    - Not reasonable, father, -
                    Everyone answered him -
                    The host is not ready.
                    Although she is friendly
                    Though she is brave
                    Only for weapons
                    The quality doesn't matter!
                    - What for me Quality? -
                    Shouted Majesty, -
                    I have Quantity!!
                    Only the guns roared
                    The warlords gasped.
                    Only bullets whistled
                    The commanders jumped.
                    Ratyushka ran
                    From neighborly strength
                    And the father remained
                    All alone.
                    We are completely smashed
                    Majesty whispered,
                    If there is no quality,
                    Fuck the Quantity??" (c)
                    1. +1
                      10 November 2022 18: 45
                      Try rabbit droppings!
                      He is vigorous. He will catch!
                      And where is the healing honey,
                      Even if it doesn't taste like honey.
                      It tastes cool though
                      And with him, it happens, they die,
                      But which ones survive?
                      Those old age live! ..
                      1. +1
                        10 November 2022 20: 11
                        It is a pity that I decided to copy the fable without checking the text. I remember it by heart, but I was too lazy to type "many bukaf". There are no jambs with rhymes and size in the original text. I'm sorry.
                      2. +1
                        10 November 2022 20: 19
                        And I didn't get it. What is the Seventh Water?
                      3. +1
                        10 November 2022 20: 25
                        What is the Seventh Water?
                        Yes, God knows it ... I was 13-14 years old when I read it and memorized it.
                      4. +1
                        10 November 2022 20: 33
                        The trained memory of a teenager is capable of much.
                      5. +1
                        10 November 2022 20: 40
                        Debatable. Memory is selective and individual.
                      6. +1
                        10 November 2022 20: 55
                        Selective. Especially good catches what you love. And any strong emotions.
                      7. +1
                        10 November 2022 21: 40
                        This is true. My first memory: my father and I are going to cut down the Christmas tree. I was three years old then...
                      8. +1
                        10 November 2022 21: 44
                        Somehow I touched the iron very early. Always drawn to fire. In all manifestations.

                        And with my mother on a sled to the kindergarten through a snowstorm over the hill.
                      9. +2
                        10 November 2022 22: 06
                        Sometimes you think, what is "the taste of your childhood"? And it turns out that this is the taste of his own blood, which he felt when he licked the frozen metal of the kindergarten veranda.
                      10. +1
                        10 November 2022 22: 45
                        Different and tastes, and smells, and words.

                        For example, millet porridge for chickens may seem tastier than millet porridge for humans.
    2. +3
      9 November 2022 09: 41
      "beat with a key and not only" as if it were in the past ..
      EVERY team has its own "yard" and its own "movements" to get closer to the "sun".
      As soon as it "rolls" it will be raked to the side and its entire "yard".
      I'm still young, but I've seen enough
  5. +5
    9 November 2022 08: 00
    I don’t know how it was in Ancient Egypt, but in today’s “mutton peas” they jokingly call sheep katykhs, and people who are both fussy and cowardly.
  6. Fat
    +4
    9 November 2022 08: 02
    hi
    Now in the mountains of Iran, Afghanistan and Tajikistan, the closest relative of the sylphium, asafoetida, is found.

    Ferula smelly (ferula assa foetida) is the name of a plant growing there. All the same, asafoetida is a ready-made spice, resin from milky juice. It is extracted not only from the "skunk" but a number of other types of ferula ... smile
    1. +5
      9 November 2022 08: 15
      Yes. We have already discussed this. And they get spices, and medicines.

      Some ferula species are also endangered.
  7. +1
    9 November 2022 09: 28
    Good morning everyone.
    "was sober when he participated in the service," and since the service was not all the time, Ptolemy 4 was under the fly most of the time.
    Valery, how did they treat alcohol then? If it is liberal, then the behavior of the king is appropriate, and if they blamed it, then Ptolemy 4 behaved defiantly
    1. VLR
      +4
      9 November 2022 09: 41
      Of course, drunkenness has always been condemned. And drunkards always answered:

      1. +2
        9 November 2022 17: 03
        In that case, he compromised himself?
        Although, he could reason something like this: "after me, at least two puddles"
        However, people then took such behavior for granted.
    2. +2
      9 November 2022 14: 04
      How did you feel about alcohol back then?

      I would rephrase the question in another way - did they dilute the already weak wine, as the Greeks did? Or are its locales not diluted, in the manner of the Scythians?
      1. VLR
        +2
        9 November 2022 14: 45
        It seems that they were diluted - it is unlikely that they were so "wild" in Alexandria that the Hellenic traditions were forgotten
  8. +2
    9 November 2022 10: 03
    The son of Ptolemy XII Ptolemy XIII, the elder brother of Cleopatra, became her husband at the age of 9 and died in the battle for Alexandria. But then the husband of Cleopatra, who became her younger brother Ptolemy XIV, who was 13 years old by that time, was very soon poisoned by Cleopatra herself. By that time, she already had a relationship with Caesar, but that her son Caesarion was born from Caesar, it was only from the words of Cleopatra herself. Caesar himself was suspicious that this might not be his child, whom Cleopatra gave birth to during the life of Ptolemy XIV, who by that time was Cleopatra's husband. So Cleopatra just didn’t have enough for his legal husband Ptolemy XIV to declare that this was his son. Therefore, Cleopatra killed her younger brother of her husband Ptolemy the Fourteenth.
    By the way, the story of Ptolemy XIII later found analogies in Russia. Some time after the death of Ptolemy XIII, a man appeared and declared that he was the surviving Ptolemy XIII. This happened at a time when Cleopatra had already made friends with Mark Antony. Naturally , Cleopatra killed the impostor . Something similar seven hundred years later happened to Pugachev in Russia ...
    1. VLR
      +2
      9 November 2022 12: 19
      There is a version that Caesarion is the son of Mark Antony. But, officially, he was considered the son of Caesar, and this made Octavian very nervous - he was just adopted, not native. And therefore, having captured Alexandria, the first thing he ordered was to kill Caesarion. And he spared the children of Cleopatra and Mark Antony - and they were brought up in the family of Octavian's sister.
    2. +5
      9 November 2022 12: 51
      Quote: north 2
      Something similar in seven hundred years happened to Pugachev in Russia ...

      Did you accidentally seal it up, or did you deliberately let such a fomen in here? laughing
      1. +3
        9 November 2022 13: 46
        random my mistake. The word "thousand" is missing. Sorry for carelessness
        1. +5
          9 November 2022 13: 58
          It happens. smile
          I'm sorry for suspecting something bad. smile
      2. Fat
        +4
        9 November 2022 13: 51
        hi Michael. I admit that we have apparently lost the habit of counting without a calculator ... Just think, I was mistaken for 1000 years ... request
        But when dealing with money, such tricks do not work laughing
        1. +3
          9 November 2022 14: 02
          Quote: Thick
          Think I was wrong for 1000 years

          For Fomenko, this is not a mistake, but a conscious position. It’s good that I first asked my colleague what he still had in mind.
          1. +3
            9 November 2022 18: 41
            Quote: Trilobite Master
            Quote: Thick
            Think I was wrong for 1000 years

            For Fomenko, this is not a mistake, but a conscious position. It’s good that I first asked my colleague what he still had in mind.

            Quote: Thick
            hi Michael. I admit that we have apparently lost the habit of counting without a calculator ... Just think, I was mistaken for 1000 years ... request
            But when dealing with money, such tricks do not work laughing
            oh well, last time I cheated for 13,5 thousand years. It happens.
  9. +3
    9 November 2022 10: 46
    Good day to all.
    Thank you for the article:
    "Lamb peas", the origin and meaning of this nickname is not clear

    It could only be feces, sheep eat grass, and sheep dung is good fuel.
  10. +5
    9 November 2022 10: 58
    Here is such a two-story palace barge measuring 115 by 14 meters and 20 meters high (talamegas) was built for Ptolemy IV and his wife Arsinoe III around 200 BC

    The author got a little carried away with the dimensions. Maximum length - 87 m, width - 13 meters, height - 18 meters.
    1. Fat
      +3
      9 November 2022 15: 07
      The "monster-building" reached its peak under Ptolemy IV (221-204 BC): his walking forty-row tessarakontera with a double bow and stern, built according to the project of Kalliksen, was more than one hundred and twenty-three meters long and about twenty - wide at a height twenty-one meters to the top of the bow superstructure. Its twenty-meter oars were turned by four thousand slaves. Everything here is ridiculous if the expression “forty-row” is understood in relation to a high-row ship: twenty-meter oars with the indicated side height would hardly reach the water, and in the inter-deck spaces fifty-two centimeters high it is impossible even to sit ... But the double bow and stern are hardly In this case, they mean that it was a biprora ship, but rather indicate that we are talking about the world's first catamaran, a symbiosis of two ships. And if this is so, then we have the right to assume that the figures are doubled. And then the “miracle” dissipates: each ship could well have a length of 61,6 meters, and with such a length - fifty oars on board. If each oar was driven by twenty people, then there were two thousand of them on deck. The same - on the second ship. On the common deck (above the rowers), the pharaoh could arrange receptions, and a considerable number of warriors would have been accommodated on it. Only the question of height is not clear; even if this is a double figure, it is large for a single-deck vessel. But it would be real if the “fore superstructure” was something like a wheeled siege tower: they were installed just on the bow, and Plutarch uses the word “deck” in the singular ... The purpose of this turtle is not entirely clear either. The pleasure tessaraconter is called only presumably: although Plutarch reports that three thousand soldiers could be accommodated on it, he immediately adds that “this ship was suitable only for display, and not for business, and almost did not differ from fixed structures, because to move it was both unsafe and extremely difficult
      Alexander Borisovich Snisarenko "Eupatrides of Fortune. The Tragedy of the Ancient Seas." L.: Shipbuilding, 1990.
      1. VLR
        +3
        9 November 2022 15: 54
        A ostentatious ceremonial ship for receiving important foreign guests? "Show off", but swimming is not necessary.
        1. Fat
          +3
          9 November 2022 16: 36
          hi Valery. Shortly before the start of the second Punic War, Hieron the Second (who ruled from 269 to 215 BC) made an attempt to create some kind of fundamentally new weapon. By his order, the creation of a ship of unprecedented dimensions began, the construction of which was led by Archimedes.
          It was a boat with twenty benches for rowers and three aisles one below the other. On either side of the middle aisle were thirty cabins, each with four boxes. The shipmen's quarters had fifteen boxes and three separate quarters of four boxes each; adjoining the kitchen. The floor of these cabins was paved with tiles of various stones, on which all the events of the Iliad were depicted. The rest was just as well done. Near the upper passage there was a gymnasium and rooms for walking. There were beds in them, wonderfully blooming with different plants. There were also gazebos. Nearby was the temple of Aphrodite, which could accommodate three lodges. The rest was richly decorated with paintings, statues and various vessels. There was also a bathhouse the size of three beds on the ship. There were also many cabins for soldiers and hold overseers. A little way off were the stables, ten on each side, and the food and belongings of the slaves were stacked nearby. Outside, the board was surrounded by Atlantes, located at the same distance from each other. And the whole ship was covered with a proper painting. The ship had a displacement of 4200 and a carrying capacity of 3300 tons.
          In addition to being a magnificent floating palace, the ship was also a floating fortress of unprecedented power. The ship had eight towers of similar size: two at the stern, two at the bow and four in the middle. Each had two protruding beams with openings to throw stones at enemies floating from below. Each tower was manned by four heavily armed warriors and two archers. The entire interior of the tower was filled with stones and arrows. Along all the sides there was a wall with battlements, and behind it - a flooring. There was a catapult on it, throwing stones weighing 80 kg and five-meter spears at 185 meters! Two beams for throwing stones were attached to each of the three masts of the ship. But even this military power of the ship was not exhausted. In addition to the warriors already mentioned, six hundred more stood on the prow, waiting for orders. Not only in size, but also in power, the Syracusia surpassed any of the ships in the Mediterranean. She could not be rammed or boarded.
          Despite its military power, it was never used. The Romans, with whom Syracuse from 264 BC. e. were in an alliance, found out about the secret meaning of the ship and ordered to get rid of it. Hieron the Second did not want to give the ship to the Romans, because then the construction would have been in vain, but he did not have the opportunity to refuse them, although Syracuse had such a wonder of the world, they could not defeat the Romans with one ship. It was necessary to give the ship to a strong enemy of Rome, so that he would use it in the war with the latter. It was decided to send a ship to Egypt to Ptolemy III Euergetes under the pretext of delivering a huge amount of grain to the starving Egyptians at that time. Hieron wanted his offspring to be used in the war against Rome, but when the ship ended up in Egypt, there was no need for it, so at first it was simply pulled ashore, and then it was completely dismantled.

          Source: "Intelligence and other secret services of ancient Rome and its opponents". Vladimir Dmitrienko.
  11. +3
    9 November 2022 11: 46
    Some kind of tin. Married to his mother and daughter. You don't see that in every hentai.
    It is not surprising that with such interbreeding they degenerated from generation to generation.
    By the way, lamb peas, well, this is ...
    1. +1
      10 November 2022 11: 49
      The Habsburgs "dabbled" in the same way!
      One of the family traits is the "Habsburg Bay".
      And slowly died out...
  12. +7
    9 November 2022 13: 14
    Just for the sake of interest, I entered the query "death of Cleopatra painting" into the search engine. The results were impressive, in every sense. smile
    Honestly, there are so many beautiful (and not very smile ) I have not seen naked female bodies for a long time. feel I did not think that this plot is so popular with painters. And how many options for the appearance of Cleopatra herself! She is plump and slender, and blonde and brunette, she can sit, she can lie, alone or in company ... And the expression on her face! Decisiveness, complete freaking out, sadness, detachment, For every taste, in short.
    Separately, you can explore the snake, which is present in this plot, almost everywhere. I think a professional serpentologist could count a dozen different types of this cute animal in the pictures ...
    smile
    1. +4
      9 November 2022 13: 30
      Hi Michael!

      Followed your example. Yes, you're right, there are aunts for every taste. But somehow I liked Rubens, realism or something. How old was Cleopatra when she gave her soul to God? And how many men went through it? What kind of girlish forms and romantic appearance are there. wink
      1. +5
        9 November 2022 13: 53
        Hello, Uncle Kostya. smile
        I also wanted to lay out exactly the Rubens version - it painfully stands out from the rest. smile
        But I think that this option is still far from reality. Cleopatra, it seems, was not even forty years old at the time of her death, this lady, it seems to me, is older ...
        Moreover, as far as I remember, Cleopatra tried to use her feminine attractiveness to the very end and hoped to seduce Octavian, and with such an appearance as in a Rubens painting, this event would have looked, to say the least, ridiculous. smile
        I like this Cleopatra.
        1. +7
          9 November 2022 14: 19
          Rubens' option to lay out - it painfully stands out from the rest.

          Rubens is far from the only artist who represented Cleopatra at the "Balzac age". For example - a picture of the Hungarian Benzur.

          And Rubens himself did not always "see" Cleopatra like that.

          Maybe there is a purely psychological moment - for those artists who, with age, "could only be friends" and Cleopatra is appropriate?
          1. +4
            9 November 2022 14: 38
            In general, I was not aware that there were so many of these Cleopatras, especially since the plot is not biblical. And then, "Balzac's age" suits some ladies, but Rubens is clearly not the case. smile
        2. +3
          9 November 2022 14: 34
          Cleopatra, to the very end, tried to use her feminine attractiveness and hoped to seduce Octavian, and with such an appearance as in the Rubens painting, this event would look at least ridiculous. smile

          God knows which women were then preferred, over time, the canons changed.
          Some people liked it...
      2. +5
        9 November 2022 14: 12
        Art critics.

        Mark on the calendar: November 8 - Cleopatra Parade.
        1. +5
          9 November 2022 14: 42
          Art critics.


          Yes, and we are proud of it! wassat

        2. +5
          9 November 2022 15: 00
          So, like, the ninth today ... smile
          The text of your comment...
          1. +5
            9 November 2022 16: 57
            Yes, it doesn't matter, it's all the same - Cleopatra. Yes
            1. +5
              9 November 2022 17: 51
              If the creator of the picture had vouchsafed me to write, I would probably have depicted Cleopatra as a slender to thinness, dark-haired, beautiful, carefully groomed woman with a proud posture, but an absolutely extinct, tired look and wrinkles around the eyes. And always in full royal attire, without any nude styles.
              1. +5
                9 November 2022 19: 12
                Not really in the subject ...



                “I am Ozymandius, I am the powerful king of kings!
                Take a look at my great deeds
                Lords of all times, all countries and all seas! "
                There is nothing around ... Deep silence ...
                The desert is dead... And the skies above it...
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                  +2
                  12 November 2022 19: 26
                  I really liked this sonnet, but Balmont's translation is not very good, later Mikushevich made a translation that was included in Tsiva - 4 ...
                  "My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
                  Look at my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
                  Nothing besides remains. Round the decay
                  Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
                  The lone and level sands stretch far away.

                  A wanderer told me that in the desert,
                  In the sands, two stone feet stand
                  Without a body for a long time until now.
                  At the feet - a broken face, whose imperious gaze
                  Filled with such mocking pride,
                  What can be admired for the craftsmanship,
                  Which read in such hearts,
                  Capturing the living in the inanimate.
                  And the letters cry out from the pedestal:
                  "I am Ozymandias. I am the king of kings.
                  My power in the world is not enough.
                  Everything is crumbling. There is nothing faster
                  Sands that didn't seem to stick
                  Around the ruins to linger in the run of days
                  ".
                  So yes, not very far from Ramses II to the power-hungry Cleopatra ...
                  Whoever didn’t conquer Egypt by conquest, but the pyramids are unknown by whom and when they were erected - they stand.
                  Yeah. "I am Ozymandias..."
                  1. +1
                    13 November 2022 07: 22
                    Yes, the translation is good, but somehow I got used to Balmont from childhood. smile
          2. +1
            9 November 2022 19: 28
            In Church Slavonic - in the evening.

            But seriously, he lived: he got confused in the dates.
        3. +4
          9 November 2022 18: 36
          Art critics.
          Not art critics, but cliopators.)))
          1. +3
            9 November 2022 19: 03
            Pleased, nephew, what can you expect from you "medieval scumbag". belay
            1. +4
              9 November 2022 19: 27
              Here come the people! You spit in the face - they climb to fight! request negative laughing
              1. +3
                9 November 2022 19: 49
                And that points were smashed to a friend,
                So they made it worse with port wine. angry laughing
                1. +4
                  9 November 2022 19: 59
                  "I got drunk drunk as a baboon,
                  I didn’t reach my pocket for a word,
                  There was a man, he became a bully "(C)
                  1. +2
                    10 November 2022 12: 12
                    A new star is burning in the sky,
                    It was lit, of course, by hooligans.
          2. +2
            9 November 2022 19: 30
            Fathers, fathers.
            Both history and art.

            successors of Herodotus.
            1. +2
              10 November 2022 12: 16
              encyclopedic Dictionary
              Pater
              (Pater) (Pater) Walter (1839 - 94), English writer, critic. Close to the Pre-Raphaelites, however, he focused his aesthetic principles not on medieval art, but on the culture of the Renaissance ("Essays on the History of the Renaissance", 1873). Philosophical novel "Mary the Epicurean" (1885). Collection of short stories "Imaginary Portraits" (1887).

              ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????? smile drinks
              1. +2
                10 November 2022 18: 34
                What does the universal encyclopedia, filled with all and sundry, say:

                Pater (lat. Pater - "father") - in Roman Catholic monasteries, a monk in the rank of deacon or priest (as opposed to simple monks, called frater - brother).
                1. +3
                  10 November 2022 18: 44
                  Well, I don’t know, it’s very difficult for me to classify myself as a monk. And I became a father for a long time. smile
                  Good evening, Sergey. drinks
                  1. +2
                    10 November 2022 19: 08
                    Good evening, Constantine!

                    And then a kind of "brotherhood". Sometimes reminiscent of Tortuga.
                    However, contributions are not collected in any of the ways.
                    1. +2
                      10 November 2022 19: 54
                      Now it's over. laughing And Tortuga, it's good, it's warm there, the ocean and in general ... It's a pity I've never been to those parts.
                      "Across the raging seas, glory to our ships,
                      Everything that the sea gives us, we divide in half! "(C)
                      1. +2
                        10 November 2022 20: 06
                        Also did not get out of Eurasia.

                        But there are still many interesting places where I have not been.
                      2. +1
                        10 November 2022 20: 28
                        and there are many more interesting places where I have not been.


                        This is true, but in others, nevertheless, it is better not to fall. smile
                      3. 0
                        10 November 2022 20: 36
                        Do not swear from evil longing, today you are drunk without alcohol, -
                        The last caravan left for the mainland, for Magadan.
                      4. +1
                        10 November 2022 20: 39
                        Are you whistling my friend?
                        Does Paris prevent you from living?
                        You look - there is a taiga around you.
                        Listen honey
                        He is there, and you are at the devil's horns.
                      5. +1
                        10 November 2022 20: 53
                        From the Volga to the Yenisei, you can't count the kilometers with your feet.
                        Scattering, my Scattering from the Volga to the Yenise-e-e-i.
                      6. +1
                        10 November 2022 22: 18
                        But from the taiga to the British seas...


                        And now it doesn’t even go from the Volga to the Dnieper ... request
                      7. +1
                        10 November 2022 22: 47
                        I don't even want to open my mouth on this subject.

                        And rivers define the landscape well.
                      8. +1
                        10 November 2022 22: 48
                        Yeah, I don't want to either. Just had to say. Rivers - yes, but I prefer the sea. smile
                      9. +1
                        10 November 2022 23: 04
                        One completes the other. Somewhere from the bridge you admire. Somewhere on the horizon.
                      10. +1
                        10 November 2022 23: 26
                        Somewhere from the bridge you admire.


                        At sea, you can also from the captain's. smile
                      11. +1
                        11 November 2022 00: 08
                        Can. Only bridges are not enough for everyone.

                        Already dreaming under this conversation about different parts of the world.
                      12. +2
                        11 November 2022 00: 31
                        I also dreamed... Yes

                        Dreams, dreams, where is your sweetness?


                      13. Fat
                        +2
                        12 November 2022 21: 10
                        Is it really "Queen Anne's Revenge" by Edward Teach, nicknamed "Blackbeard" in the port of the Republic of Tortuga? feel
                      14. 0
                        13 November 2022 07: 21
                        I don't know, maybe that's Captain Peter Blood's Arabella. smile
                      15. +2
                        10 November 2022 20: 14
                        And Tortuga, it's good, it's warm there, the ocean and in general ...
                        And then, a tank comes around the corner!
                      16. +2
                        10 November 2022 20: 27
                        Imagine thinking the same thing! laughing
                        Well, I guess you're not around, so why make it public. And now there is nowhere to go. request

                      17. +2
                        10 November 2022 20: 32
                        "The sun is high in the sky, like a bumblebee,
                        the sea is milk, the shores are jelly.
                        God, how far away you are now, Fidel.
                        I close my eyes and see
                        the golden sands of Varadero.
                        I close my eyes and hear
                        guantanamero.

                        One, two, Cuba
                        Cuba is far away.
                        Three-four, Cuba and Cuba side by side.
                        Only one, two, Cuba
                        Cuba is far away
                        Three-four, Cuba and Cuba side by side.

                        And we have a bummer, eternal winter.
                        Snow and snow all around, gray houses.
                        Ah, Fidel, Fidel, I'm losing my mind.
                        I close my eyes and instantly
                        everyone around is such a torment
                        everyone around is so amigo
                        but I will open my eyes and cry. "(c)
                      18. +1
                        10 November 2022 20: 37
                        I have never been to the distant Amazon.
                        request

                        Cuba is a dream since childhood, as a kid I went to bomb the American embassy with ink, frolic from the heart! laughing
                      19. +2
                        10 November 2022 21: 50
                        As a kid, I went to bomb the American embassy with ink, frolic from the heart!
                        But why?
                      20. +2
                        10 November 2022 22: 16
                        Well you asked! Weren't you fourteen years old? laughing In addition, the same romance: the Caribbean Seas, pirates, beauties and tanks, and not only boys were hooligans there, and there were enough adults, who came from where, m guys in ties and hard workers in overalls. Cuba was then the dream of the entire Union, your generation, perhaps, will not understand this. Otherwise, I would not have asked, sorry, stupid question.
                      21. +2
                        10 November 2022 22: 30
                        Weren't you fourteen years old?
                        At the age of fourteen, I thought about something else. However, as in seventeen ....
                      22. +1
                        10 November 2022 22: 46
                        I also thought about something else, and still think, but you simply did not have the American embassy near by. And there was no Cuba. Afghanistan was or Angola, and this is all prose and officialdom, and people did not go to rallies in defense of Cuba for time off, believe me.
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              0
              12 November 2022 21: 05
              What kind of "fathers" - paters. Philocliotes. However, the origin of this muse is highly doubtful. It is assumed that the mother is Mnemosyne, but there are options where the mother is Gaia. Duc and paternity, which is always suspicious ... Hope for the divinity of this muse is doubtful.
              However, history is written by the winners.
              Summary: Clio is a slut of unknown origin and you can and should love her, but not at all for "memorable" merits laughing
              1. +1
                12 November 2022 21: 19
                Though not philatelists.
                And there can be all sorts of muses.

                She had good reasons
                I have no right to whine
                Imagine: Muse... at night... at a man's! —
                God knows what people will say about her.
    2. 0
      10 November 2022 19: 11
      https://warspot.ru/19117-ptolemeevskaya-igra-prestolov#mobile-left-navigation
      1. +2
        10 November 2022 21: 16
        I looked at the article diagonally, it seemed to me quite competent and well written.
        And why did you give this link, and now, and not, say, yesterday?
        1. +1
          10 November 2022 21: 52
          As soon as I got to the article, I gave a link!
          And there are THREE articles!
          1. +1
            10 November 2022 22: 01
            The topic of the article itself is not very interesting to me, but the quality of the presentation of the material by the author satisfied me.
            And now I have a question for you. To what extent is the coincidence of the author's name and yours coincidental? smile
            1. 0
              11 November 2022 05: 08
              In addition to names, there are also surnames. I have a different last name.
              I have no gift for "writing"!
              1. +1
                11 November 2022 12: 18
                Well, your surname is unknown to me, and the surname of the author of that article with your local callsign is quite similar. That's what I asked. smile
                And about "writing" - so any literate person has this gift. The only question is the amount of time that each of us is willing to spend on it.
                Not everyone has a creative beginning - yes, but any person can learn to correctly express their thoughts, there would be a desire.
        2. +1
          10 November 2022 21: 52
          There is a "conflict of versions" in the party...
          1. +1
            10 November 2022 21: 55
            There is no conflict!
            Everyone just died...
            And about closely related inbreeding - the Habsburgs are the clearest example!
            Cousins ​​and sisters, uncles and nieces.
            And then they all died...
      2. +1
        10 November 2022 21: 50
        The articles are different, both in construction, and in information, and stylistically, only in the title "Game of Thrones" is present in both cases. Apparently, the association suggests itself.
  13. +4
    9 November 2022 17: 29
    I, after some movie, decided. In all dynasties there are "ups" of degeneration: among the Romanovs, 2 surge - Peter 1, although Valery does not really like him. And Alexander 3.
    Nicholas 2 is already fading away. Although, I like the way he treated his mother and wife. Women appreciate it.
    The Bourbons: the peak is Henry of Navarre, and the fading is Louis 16 and Charles 10.
    Again: I'm interested in Louis - a man, not a king.
    Like a king, I'm curious about Louis 18
    The Ptolemies too: rise and fall
    By analogy with dynasties, states: ups and downs.
    1. +3
      9 November 2022 18: 55
      Nature rests on children!
      These are not my conclusions but a folk saying. If interpreted by yourself. Everyone in my family sang and painted. For me, nature has taken a hard “rest” on these qualities. For that daughter, God did not deprive her of talent !!!
      1. +1
        10 November 2022 20: 07
        Is she happy with her talents?
        Or would you prefer "talents" in the form of bars of silver or gold?
  14. 0
    10 November 2022 20: 08
    https://dzen.ru/media/id/5b4873d42e3a8e00a849a3b0/rimskie-otbornye-soldaty-v-egipte-5e22c8c8ecfb8000aee392ef
    Can I write an article about the Egyptian army in those wars?