Iran threatens the West with a response if the UN investigates the alleged supply of kamikaze drones to Russia

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Iran threatens the West with a response if the UN investigates the alleged supply of kamikaze drones to Russia

After the destruction of our military energy facilities in Ukraine with the help of drones-kamikazes, first in Kiev, and then in the West, accused Iran of allegedly supplying Russia with its Shahed-136 strike UAVs, which we will rebrand under the name Geranium-2. And although Moscow and Tehran officially denied this information, the United States and the EU countries threatened Iran with some sanctions for supposedly providing military assistance to the Russian Federation.

We are determined to work with allies and partners to prevent the transmission of dangerous weapons Russia. We will not hesitate to apply our sanctions and other appropriate instruments to all those involved in these transmissions.

- said the US State Department.



But what else can the West do against two countries that are already under an unprecedented amount of all sorts of sanctions? Except once again to condemn and demand, using, among other things, international institutions controlled by Washington.

It was along this long-trodden path that the Western allies decided to go. Kyiv was the first to speak: Ukraine's permanent representative to the UN Serhiy Kyslytsya sent a letter to the chairman of the Security Council, in which he stated that Iran is transferring UAVs of the Mohajer and Shahed series to Russia, which, according to Kyslytsya, violates paragraph 4 of Annex B of resolution 2231, which approved the creation of the Joint Comprehensive Plan action on the Iranian nuclear program.

Further, more “heavy artillery” was used: Germany, France, Great Britain and the United States demanded an investigation by the UN against Iran for the same reasons.

In turn, Dmitry Polyansky, First Deputy Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the UN, said that in response to the UN investigation into the use of Iranian drones Moscow may "reconsider cooperation" with the UN, including not extending the "grain agreement".

Iran also did not leave the demarche of Western countries unanswered. Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Nasser Kanaani said Tehran "strongly condemns" the call by France, Germany and Britain to the UN to investigate the supply of kamikaze drones to Russia.

The Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran, seeking to protect its national interests and protect the rights of the noble Iranian people, reserves the right to respond to any irresponsible actions

Kanaani threatened, although without specifying what kind of response actions would be taken.

It seems that the West, in an attempt to save Ukraine, has once again driven itself into a dead end. It is obvious that all this skirmish in the United Nations, which is increasingly losing its authority at the international level, will not lead to anything real.

Meanwhile, Ukraine's energy crisis continues to worsen...
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    1. +19
      22 October 2022 18: 44
      Interesting, but who will conduct the investigation? Again mattresses?
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        1. +8
          22 October 2022 18: 59
          I can’t be responsible for the authenticity, but there was information on the Internet that the capacities for the production of licensed Iranian drones are deployed in Syria and Tajikistan. Then, from a legal point of view, everything is tip-top. And even a few months before massive use. Yes, any label can be applied.
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        2. +31
          22 October 2022 19: 01
          Quote: liberal
          To claim otherwise is stupid.

          Written "Geranium" means "Geranium" and there is nothing to fence the garden. If the states send HIMARS to fight Russia and don’t even rename them Peryamog, then why doesn’t Iran have the right. It's time to impose sanctions on the states.
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            1. +10
              22 October 2022 20: 00
              Quote: liberal
              Neither we nor Iran can economically squeeze the states.

              Oh is it!
              And what will happen to them if you stop supplying URANIUM, ANTIMONY (PRC), TITANIUM, their industrial giants, stop conducting financial transactions through dollars, take their astronauts to the ISS, etc. Yes, and you can also think about oil ... For example, push Venezuela to the right decision on oil supplies ...
              So there's more to come!!!
              AHA.
              1. +2
                22 October 2022 21: 03
                Oh is it!
                And what will happen to them if you stop supplying URANIUM, ANTIMONY (PRC), TITANIUM, their industrial giants, stop conducting financial transactions through dollars, take their astronauts to the ISS, etc.

                Yes, nothing will happen to them.
                Most of our uranium is mined in Kazakhstan, which will supply it not to us for processing, but to other countries, and then we will have a problem.
                The PRC is not controlled from Moscow, so it's past here.
                Titanium is produced in other countries, we do not control this market
                Financial transactions in dollars were blocked for us, not us, while more than half a trillion dollars were taken from us, including the property of officials and oligarchs, and settlements on our transactions in dollars are less than 1%, so no one will notice.
                They are already carrying the astronauts themselves, we are late here.
                Yes, and with oil, too, you can think ...

                Oil continues to go even through Ukraine, and to Ukraine, since it mostly belongs not to Russia, but to the oligarchs, so even a price ceiling of $ 60 will suit them, all the same, taking into account discounts, they sell to Indians for the same amount, but transportation is up to them expensive. Nothing personal just business.
                To push Venezuela to the right decision on oil supplies ...

                Of course, they can stop oil supplies, but who will support them? Do you think our budget will pull it?

                We need to look at things realistically, we could influence them by cutting off gas supplies to the EU and reducing the export of oil, as well as nickel and palladium, which will really hurt them.
                But firstly, for this, the extractive industry must be nationalized, along with the metallurgical industry, including Norilsk Nickel, the transport industry, as well as the military-industrial complex.
                And secondly, goals and a plan for achieving them should be set, including the study of painful points for them, but which will not cause severe damage to our economy. Plans must also be drawn up to develop our industry and reduce our costs.
                None of this is being done, there are no plans, so "everything is going according to plan."
              2. 0
                24 October 2022 10: 07
                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                carry their astronauts to the ISS, etc.

                And you can offer to carry their "People" for rubles, oh, the howl will rise.
            2. +2
              22 October 2022 20: 39
              So, whoever argues, I don’t see anything wrong with the practice of purchasing foreign weapons.

              Such deliveries violate the UN resolution, which at one time our guarantor obligingly waved to the Americans.
              But if our leadership were guided by the interests of Russia and not the Americans, it would veto many decisions of the UN Security Council, which would greatly complicate the imposition of sanctions against Iran and North Korea, as well as the overthrow of Gaddafi, with the approval of Medvedev.
              1. +2
                23 October 2022 02: 04
                A very competent and detailed commentary on our "economy". Bravo.
                1. -1
                  23 October 2022 08: 16
                  A very competent and detailed commentary on our "economy". Bravo.

                  Thank you. drinks
            3. +2
              22 October 2022 22: 57
              In fact, we can also press the States. For example, leave without nuclear fuel, aluminum, rocket engines, Boeing parts and rare earth metals.
              1. 0
                23 October 2022 08: 27
                In fact, we can also press the States

                What you listed is past.
                The States historically receive other nuclear fuel for their nuclear power plants based on Australian uranium; their last nuclear power plant was built when the USSR was still there. But the fact that our leadership sold them a huge amount of weapons-grade plutonium for a penny, which really costs trillions, is a crime.
                They have aluminum, and they hold Deripaska together with our aluminum in one place.
                They don't produce Boeing parts, they're not stupid.
                Rare earths are controlled by China, we control only palladium and nickel, but again, this is not with Russia, but with Norilsk Nickel, which is owned by the oligarch Potanin, and he is not going to limit anything.
                So we are not able to cause much harm to the United States
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                  0
                  23 October 2022 10: 30
                  fuel for their nuclear power plants based on Australian uranium, their last nuclear power plant was built when the USSR was still there

                  It doesn't matter where the uranium is mined. The key issue is enrichment. The US does not have the capacity to do this. Orano, the former Areva itself has been sitting tightly on TVEL products for 20 years.
                  Guess where 3000 assemblies bought in Russia in 20 years were used? lol
                  the fact that our leadership sold them a huge amount of weapons-grade plutonium for a penny, which is really worth trillions, is a crime.

                  Not in the lottery, but in preference, not the Volga, but five rubles, did not win, but lost laughing .(c) an old joke. You would be interested in the details of the Gore-Chernomyrdin deal.
                  https://regnum.ru/news/2194595.html
                  They have aluminum

                  As long as there is. Aluminum and titanium, by their nature, appear only where there is cheap energy.
                  They don't produce Boeing parts, they're not stupid.

                  The Boeing Design Center in Russia has been operating since 98. This is twenty years of MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL cooperation. Is it worth listing the projects in which his one and a half thousand employees took part?
                  1. 0
                    23 October 2022 21: 49
                    It doesn't matter where the uranium is mined. The key issue is enrichment. The US does not have the capacity to do this.

                    The Americans will have enough of their power and the power of their allies.
                    You would be interested in the details of the Gore-Chernomyrdin deal.

                    And you take an interest in the cost of production of sold weapons-grade plutonium.
                    As long as there is. Aluminum and titanium, by their nature, appear only where there is cheap energy.

                    Russia does not control either the aluminum market or the titanium market, and the oligarch Deripaska can hardly be called Russia, and he will not stop aluminum supplies to the United States
                    The Boeing Design Center in Russia has been operating since 98. This is twenty years of MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL cooperation. Is it worth listing the projects in which his one and a half thousand employees took part?

                    This center was created in order to see how aircraft designers and aircraft engineers from our leading design bureaus are being thrown out onto the street in order to drag the best of them to the USA, and yes, they participated in projects.
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                2. 0
                  18 November 2022 12: 56
                  Thanks to the betrayal of HEU-LEU, there is now no production of weapons-grade and energy-grade uranium in the United States. In 2010, Rosatom bought the American company Uranium One (one of the world's leading uranium producers) along with its deposits in Canada, Australia, Kazakhstan, South Africa, and the US itself. A scandal erupted. There were suspicions that the deal was approved by Hillary Clinton. In 2021, the Russian corporation announced its decision to sell its American subsidiary, but this generally does not affect its impressive role in the US nuclear industry.
              2. +1
                23 October 2022 12: 10
                The engines have already stopped. Everything was delivered, but Roskosmos denied control at the start. And here Atlasi do not fly. They didn't finish the BE-4, they didn't finish the Raptor, one thin Merlinchik flies.
          2. +8
            22 October 2022 19: 53
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Quote: liberal
            To claim otherwise is stupid.

            If the states send HIMARS to fight Russia and don’t even rename them Peryamog, then why doesn’t Iran have the right. It's time to impose sanctions on the states.

            The Yankees are stirring up in the direction of "recognizing Iran as a party to the conflict" and on this basis to extend to Iran all the sanctions imposed on the Russian Federation.
            And the SGA themselves are, well, just angels in the flesh: white, fluffy and live in a shining city on a hill!
            Ku-Klu-Sklan-sheep, they are so "clean" and "infallible" that it hurts the eyes straight from the radiance of their halos!
            Crap! When will mother nature overturn Yellowstone on them in order to put an end to these last-born murderers, thieves and robbers forever! am
        3. +12
          22 October 2022 19: 14
          Does the West have the right to supply weapons to Ukraine?
        4. +11
          22 October 2022 19: 16
          Exactly what is the difference between shaheds or geraniums, why should the West care about this? Let them take care of their supplies
        5. +13
          22 October 2022 19: 41
          Quote: liberal
          everything is clear that geraniums are shaheeds.
          No. Geranium is a rebranding of SHAHED. Maybe even from Iranian components these "mopeds" are assembled ... But they are produced here! And no one forbade trading in "spare parts" for non-strategic purposes of Iran! Even the UN!!! The question was about "strategic" components, and not about moped 2-stroke engines!
          So the Anglo-Saxons can wipe themselves off and go through the forest. Formally, there is nothing to cling to! Yes
          1. +6
            22 October 2022 21: 10
            And you know, comrade - I would call these ammunition - "gladiolus" - and for any questions about their use, I would include that number from KVN "Ual dumplings" with the phrase - "but because gladiolus"))))))
        6. +10
          22 October 2022 19: 55
          Quote: liberal
          it seems to me everything is clear that geraniums are shaheeds

          The problem is that no one even encrypts the Hymars. And the UN doesn't care at all.
        7. +2
          22 October 2022 20: 09
          Articles are articles, a lot of things are written on the Internet.
        8. +6
          22 October 2022 20: 17
          Not shaheds, but geraniums, it’s even written on them and it’s absurd to say otherwise, but you can read Russian: ge-ra-ni ...
        9. +2
          23 October 2022 05: 00
          But no! Martyrs and Geranium are different even in SIZE! And Geranium's warhead is 1,5 times larger - 75 kg. Gerani only has an Iranian engine - and that is a clone of the German engine, which was first copied by the Chinese, and then by the Iranians. There the whole trick is in the engine, and nothing else - in terms of power to weight ratio, it is one of the best in the world.
      2. +3
        22 October 2022 20: 58
        Such ostentatious investigations are another nail in the lid of "democracy". It seems like not so long ago in the UN, some people were already shaking a test tube, though later they admitted that it was an outright lie ...
      3. 0
        24 October 2022 12: 41
        It's a shame to me for one thing, how we behaved towards Iran. C400 did not sell with the atom did not help
    2. +20
      22 October 2022 18: 50
      Ukropov means you can fill up with weapons, and the whole wild West does it, and as Russia bought something from someone, everyone immediately starts yelling "Sentry! Let's introduce Syanksii!" The injector is almost broken, fools.
    3. +4
      22 October 2022 18: 58
      Quote: liberal
      Europe: OK, let's investigate.
      Iran: Just dare, you bastards...

      a little bit wrong
      Europe: OK, let's investigate.
      Iran: And who are you then? Just laugh, you bastards..
      and I didn’t understand something from which author dragged in a grain deal and cooperation with the UN? because the grain deal is not linked to this topic, and cooperation is not with the UN, but with the UN secretariat, and whoever gets on this topic from the secretariat - everyone in zindan at the request of the TFR for actions violating the sovereignty of Russia
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        1. +9
          22 October 2022 19: 20
          Quote: liberal
          Therefore, EU and US sanctions will have an effect on us and on Iran, but in the opposite direction, everything is unlikely to be so effective.

          So these are no longer sanctions, but this is terror from the US supported by Europe.
        2. +3
          22 October 2022 19: 25
          Quote: liberal
          In order to conduct an investigation and impose sanctions, you can generally not be anyone

          is it true? )))))) well, conduct an investigation with a neighbor on his sexual inclinations
        3. 0
          22 October 2022 23: 00
          Well, yes, Germany without gas, and France without nuclear power plant components and uranium will easily survive.
    4. 0
      22 October 2022 19: 14
      You got confused: the Americans and the Gayropians present Iran, and not the Iranians make a statement about supposedly delivering or not, do you understand the difference?
    5. +6
      22 October 2022 19: 17
      Quote: liberal
      Iran: We do not supply drones and missiles to Russia!
      Europe: OK, let's investigate.
      Iran: Just dare, you bastards...

      Are you hinting at how the United States accused Russia of downing a Malaysian plane? "We have evidence, pictures, but we will not show them to anyone, because they are too secret"
    6. +10
      22 October 2022 19: 27
      USA+Europe: We didn't blow up your pipeline.
      Russia: Let's do an investigation.
      USA+Europe: We prohibit.
    7. +1
      22 October 2022 20: 46
      Correctly. They themselves are dragging thousands and thousands of tons of "unrecorded" weapons to Ukraine, on top of what they promised in the media and fuck everyone. And here the hype needs to be blown up. Iran wanted to humiliate. So Iran (whether it supplied or not, it doesn't matter) had only one correct answer. The results were announced.
    8. 0
      23 October 2022 04: 16
      That is, it is possible to supply all kinds of weapons, mercenaries, financial assistance to Ukraine to the whole West, but it is impossible to buy or produce under a license any weapons from Russia? Maybe they will even declare that we have no right to use any weapon! Yes, they went to hell! Russia is already under all possible sanctions, as well as Iran! Something I have not heard about the investigation into the United States who attacked Yugoslavia and Iraq without the sanction of the UN Security Council!
  2. +13
    22 October 2022 18: 18
    Send strong air defense to Iran to prevent Israeli attacks.
    1. +5
      22 October 2022 18: 46
      Quote from Carlos Sala
      Send strong air defense to Iran to prevent Israeli attacks.

      Exactly! Give the guys S-350-400, but not like last time...
      1. +2
        22 October 2022 20: 59
        Some observers say that Iran already has the S-400 and Pantsir S-1. Others deny it. Iran itself is silent. The Jews are worried and everyone is in treason.
        But it seems to me that we are quietly supplying them through third parties, so as not to excite Israel. Starting with the hardware-antenna complex. But at the expense of missiles (such as 40N6 or acres) - it is most likely they themselves, according to our technical documentation, they are secretly making up.
        So, everything is in the hands of Allah! because Yahweh and Jesus are clearly on the side of the Jews! bully
        1. +1
          22 October 2022 22: 05
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          Some observers say that Iran already has the S-400 and Pantsir S-1. Others deny it. Iran itself is silent. The Jews are worried and everyone is in treason.

          In the summer, without much fanfare, they launched the container route RF-Kazakhstan-Turkmenistan-Iran, ostensibly for the supply of building materials by cast iron wink to India. I suppose you can carry the devil bald there, just come on! fellow
          1. -1
            22 October 2022 22: 38
            Quote: isv000
            I suppose you can carry the devil bald there, just come on!

            bald trait, wholesale... advertising of the 90s, whoever finds the video will get nothing Yes
  3. +14
    22 October 2022 18: 19
    It's time to create a Russia-Iran-DPRK coalition, there is little hope for China and India, but we still have nothing to lose.
    1. +4
      22 October 2022 18: 29
      These, therefore, want to investigate, but there is no need to investigate about themselves, NATO members, about weapons and soldiers, everything is known and they don’t care!
      it's different

      Zelepup will complain, they will consider complaints as if there were no crimes in the LDNR for 8 years.
      1. +9
        22 October 2022 18: 38
        The fact of the matter is Dim, that they consider it possible to dictate to everyone in the world what and to whom is possible and what is not. But the poor intellect is not enough to look into our history and see how all their Hitlers and Napoleons ended up.
      2. +4
        22 October 2022 18: 53
        Quote: Reptiloid
        Zelepup will complain, they will consider complaints as if there were no crimes in the LDNR for 8 years.

        Someone apologized for the missile attack on the Chinese embassy in Belgrade? They just said - oh!, the error came out ...
        1. +1
          22 October 2022 19: 37
          Quote: isv000
          ..... missile attack on the Chinese embassy in Belgrade? They just said - oh!, the error came out ...

          So they also said about the destruction of Iraq
        2. +2
          22 October 2022 21: 45
          You can also remember the shot Yugoslav train. There, in general, he justified the UN pilot. In general, you can’t even remember about a passenger Iranian plane ...
    2. +3
      22 October 2022 18: 48
      Quote: Diana Ilyina
      It's time to create a Russia-Iran-DPRK coalition, there is little hope for China and India, but we still have nothing to lose.

      We definitely have nothing to lose, but the Abramovichs?!
      1. +2
        22 October 2022 19: 45
        Many rich people have nothing to lose. Here, for example, Berezovsky. ...today. Or others who, under strange circumstances, went there this year, being very rich.
    3. 0
      22 October 2022 21: 07
      Diana Ilyina (Diana)
      It's time to create a Russia-Iran-DPRK coalition, there is little hope for China and India, but we still have nothing to lose.

      belay About how!
      This is an incorrect judgment. IN AND. Even at the dawn of Soviet power, Lenin said that the future of mankind belongs to whoever the peoples of China and India follow. Therefore, GDP is doing the right thing by working with these mega-giants in terms of human resources! For this, the BRICS and the SCO and other unions are molded.
      AHA.
    4. 0
      22 October 2022 23: 03
      Yes, 100 thousand Korean special forces would be very out of place there!
  4. +3
    22 October 2022 18: 22
    "Meanwhile, the energy crisis continues to worsen in Ukraine"...
    It would be better to write about this in more detail. How much more interesting it would be to read. laughing
    1. +1
      22 October 2022 18: 50
      Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
      "Meanwhile, the energy crisis continues to worsen in Ukraine"...
      It would be better to write about this in more detail. How much more interesting it would be to read. laughing

      Patrols walk around Kukuev and whip who uses electricity! good
      1. 0
        22 October 2022 18: 56
        You see - they flog (you see, with Cossack legs), but they could use stun guns! But no - they don’t charge them, they save laktricity!
        1. -1
          22 October 2022 19: 19
          she figured it out. The old way hasn't gone away. soon all street poles will glow with the bare backsides of impudent electronics
    2. +2
      22 October 2022 19: 19
      Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
      "Meanwhile, the energy crisis continues to worsen in Ukraine"...
      It would be better to write about this in more detail. How much more interesting it would be to read. laughing

  5. +8
    22 October 2022 18: 24
    And what are they going to investigate?
    In Russia, no one will let them into Iran, too, is unlikely.
    Wreckage in Ukraine? Well, let them dig.
    1. +1
      22 October 2022 19: 07
      Quote: Ulan.1812
      And what are they going to investigate?
      In Russia, no one will let them into Iran, too, is unlikely.
      Wreckage in Ukraine? Well, let them dig.

      Well, he can send a couple of dozens of evidence to the investigators that ours are there! labels are glued on gum ... wassat On their own, let them throw the coordinates ...
  6. +18
    22 October 2022 18: 25
    Fucking hegemons.
    Why does our Foreign Ministry and UN representatives always make excuses for cooperation with Iran?

    What an admiration for the West.
    It would be better if they called Western ambassadors to the carpet in the building of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, in Smolensk, for the supply of Caesars, Javelins, infantry fighting vehicles, etc.
    And they called to hell.
    And the UN demanded that the United States repent for the rockets with shrapnel to the Chimeras, which just now hit the Antonovsky Bridge (there were victims and wounded).

    Why is there a screech to Venus when Geranium/Shakhidka strikes the infrastructure of the Kyiv regime?
    Why is the West silent as a rag when Bandera's Tochka-U with a cluster warhead mows down Russians in Donetsk, or when a Chimera rocket with shrapnel kills Russians on the Antonovsky bridge?
    1. +6
      22 October 2022 18: 34
      Because the West has decided that it is possible and necessary to kill us, but when the response arrives, it is not humane and not humane at all. You can’t beat a hegemon with a fist and in an impudent face, you don’t understand democratically ...
      1. +1
        22 October 2022 18: 55
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        Because the West has decided that it is possible and necessary to kill us, but when the response arrives, it is not humane and not humane at all. You can’t beat a hegemon with a fist and in an impudent face, you don’t understand democratically ...

        The fascists called partisan struggle not chivalrous methods of warfare ...
      2. -9
        22 October 2022 18: 56
        Let me ask you if the West has been killing you for a long time?
        The so-called West has not yet imposed a ban on the supply of medicines and complex orthopedic products to the Russian Federation. Although the loss of the Russian market is not critical for him, since the Russian pharmaceutical market is approximately only 1,5% of the world market, and its loss for the same Pfizer or AbbVie is by no means significant.
        Although I will not deny the fact that large international pharmaceutical companies just now refused to conduct new clinical trials of their drugs in Russia, which should precede their registration in the Russian Federation, I will not. This means that new, more effective drugs from them will not arrive in the Russian Federation. But there are economic and reputational reasons, not coercion by national governments.
        If the West wanted to kill us, it would simply legally ban the export of components for the synthesis of substances to the Russian Federation, not to mention the supply of finished forms, and introduce secondary sanctions for their supply.
        So your statements about the passionate intention of the West to kill you, like all of us, to put it mildly, are far from reality.
        1. +3
          22 October 2022 19: 21
          Well, yes, of course, Fashington wishes Russia only peace and prosperity. And that is why it is pumping the Ruin with weapons that hit our cities and actually kill civilians.
          Completely sick in the head or Svidomo? Which is one and the same!
          1. -5
            22 October 2022 19: 33
            No, just a realist. And I do not live by the dogmas of poster slogans. No one intentionally breeds competitors for himself, and the United States, as well as the Russian Federation, is no exception.
            The supply of weapons to Ukraine is a consequence of geopolitical competition, as well as the supply of Soviet weapons to Vietnam during the years of the Vietnam War. No more.
            God's gift should not be confused with scrambled eggs.

            And also ask metallurgists how they were affected by restrictions on imports to the European Union and the United States of ferrous metallurgy products. After all, they should rejoice that they stopped exporting to "killers". But no, read the interview with the head of NLMK Lisin. Although I suppose you will declare him Maidan.
            It's just that for those who are integrated into this world, life does not consist of poster slogans, but of economic reality.
        2. +1
          22 October 2022 21: 48
          From the 90s if you don't know. When my parents, who produced quite technologically advanced products at that time, the West offered to make saucepans, and the states fed selected g..m in the form of "Bush legs", which forbade selling in the same Europe ...
          1. -3
            22 October 2022 23: 00
            Why do I remember the 90s and the economic opportunities that they provided. There were also positive examples. A positive example is Shatura furniture and it is not unique.
            It is not customary for us to look for the causes of failures inside, it is necessary to blame someone outside.
            From the outside, no one interfered with the further economic reforms of Alexei Nikolayevich Kosygin, the end result of which would be the diversification and balance of the industrial potential of the USSR, the intensive development of agriculture and, ultimately, the economic results that China later showed.
            These reforms were hindered by the Soviet party and economic nomenklatura, as Aleksey Nikolayevich himself said in an interview with the head of the government of Czechoslovakia, Lubomir Strougal, and not at all by the States or Canada.
            Accordingly, they approached the 90s with a huge bias towards the military-industrial complex and huge resource-intensive giant enterprises with a product line that did not meet the needs of the consumer.
            Is it the same States or Canadians are to blame for this, or were they supposed to change the entire technological order in the Russian Federation like this for a great life? No, guys, you should have done it yourself and not wait for manna from heaven, as it was not expected in the Republic of Korea (South Korea), which was actually incinerated by a war that did not stop until more than a decade, Singapore, permanently at war with Israel and after Francoist Spain.
            And these very legs of Bush then helped many when the same party and economic nomenklatura (the same regional leaders) divided powers.
            Speaking of Bush's legs. appeared in 1990 when the Soviet counters were empty, "Bush legs" were very popular due to their cheapness and availability.
            Do you blame the States for the fact that the counters were empty? I believe the late Alexei Nikolaevich Kosygin would not agree with such an interpretation.
            And if we talk about American food aid, then it was she who saved millions of people from starvation in the 20s of the 20th century. In the summer of 1922, almost 9 million people received food in the ARA canteens, as well as special corn rations, and at the end of the summer, more than 10 million citizens of the USSR. And all this I will note free of charge.
            So you are very far from the truth and, accordingly, from the truth.
            1. +1
              22 October 2022 23: 57
              Yok mokarek, American help with Bush's legs, first ask how many trillions of dollars worth of resources the FSA has pumped out for such "humanitarian aid", you really are either de Bill or pretending to be.
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            2. 0
              23 October 2022 20: 21
              The truth is when in the 90s people like you trumpeted about humanitarian aid from the West, and at that time at the institute we opened late arrivals dry. NATO rations...
            3. 0
              24 October 2022 11: 10
              Quote: Kiril Letov
              And all this I will note free of charge.
              So you are very far from the truth and, accordingly, from the truth.

              I largely agree with you. Namely, that the Soviet economic model did not withstand many tests. This is the fault of the country's leadership. As well as a complete reluctance to develop light industry. Heavy industry and the military-industrial complex have always been at the forefront. But even in the union there were pleasant moments in the development of the economy, Kosygin managed to do something. Take into account the food and automotive industries. Yes, and the bet on the resource base gave a lot, and you should not consider it a losing one. Due to this, they sailed into the zero.
              Bush's legs, like the humanitarian aid with the ARA, in a sense, saved the country. After all, since the 60s they have been buying grain in the USA (and on TV they watched how bad they are, the capitalists) But Bush's legs are only part of the deal that began with Malta to surrender the union. And we didn't get it for free. That's why it's sour. Among other things, the United States literally occupied our market, while producing at home. Remind me what forces we then got rid of it? I think we could find other options ... Although it's hard to believe in it. The humanities are a different story altogether. All of it fell into the hands of officials, and people didn’t get anything for free.
              Well, now, several decades after these events, you can basically hear the classic - help was not particularly needed, there was little of it, and in general they would have managed without it.
    2. 0
      22 October 2022 18: 38
      Why does our Foreign Ministry and UN representatives always make excuses for cooperation with Iran?

      What an admiration for the West.
      It would be better if they called Western ambassadors to the carpet in the building of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, in Smolensk, for the supply of Caesars, Javelins, infantry fighting vehicles, etc.
      And they called to hell.


      Golden words!
    3. -6
      22 October 2022 18: 39
      The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, starting with Shevardnadze and Kozyrev, and maybe even earlier (I.M. Maisky), was a breeding ground for traitors. I don’t know how it is now with the traitors, but the fact that they are not for Russia is a fact. Example: where are the lawsuits on the confiscated real estate of the Russian Federation in the USA? In addition to the "concerned" M. Zakharova, there is nothing else.
      1. 0
        22 October 2022 19: 02
        Quote: Amateur
        Where are the lawsuits on the confiscated real estate of the Russian Federation in the USA?

        where are you going to send them? in Sportloto?
    4. -6
      22 October 2022 18: 42
      Yes, there is no one in our country to do this, the Foreign Ministry is afraid to say a word against "partners", his close relatives live abroad. Nebenzya, well, he’s like a surname))) and he won’t say two words without a piece of paper. And what do we expect from them?
  7. +4
    22 October 2022 18: 30
    The trick is that the levers must be able to use. By imposing a bunch of sanctions for no reason, the West has deprived itself of this lever of pressure on Iran or the Russian Federation. Everyone understands that sanctions will be applied regardless of the actions of the Russian Federation or Iran, therefore it is logical for the Russian Federation and Iran to act WITHOUT looking back at the UN, the EU and p-p-p-p. And here we are with a grain deal, which we don’t care at all - we can successfully put pressure on both the EU and the UN
  8. -3
    22 October 2022 18: 40
    Circus and only)
    Which of the commentators really believes that Geranium is not a repainted Iranian Shaheed, but a domestic development?
    Offended believers please downvote.
    1. +5
      22 October 2022 18: 45
      What difference does it make if it's repainted or not. Effective? Yes! Well then what are the problems? Iran and Russia are sovereign countries and decide for themselves who and what to supply!
      1. -1
        22 October 2022 18: 59
        Gold words.
        Why do Russia and Iran expose themselves to ridicule?
        Both the United States and the Union lied and denied, but things did not reach such an absurdity.
        "There aren't any of our missiles in Cuba, oh, have they already photographed them? Well, then there are - so what?"
        This is an understandable approach, a sovereign country. Bold but understandable.

        We will never admit that our managers have no analogues during the 9 months of the war, they were not able to assemble a drone from plastic, a corner and a moped motor - this does not inspire respect.
    2. +2
      22 October 2022 19: 00
      Quote from Gromit
      Circus and only)
      Which of the commentators really believes that Geranium is not a repainted Iranian Shaheed, but a domestic development?
      Offended believers please downvote.

      What's the problem?! And we and the states sell weapons, why can't the Persians? Why can't we buy a slingshot from a neighbor, since he has it better and hits further?! As the deliveries go on - the hand to write gets tired of writing a list of countries ... It's just time to show the Yankees a device, not a tableware, as Kim did, or the Persians, bringing the Yankees special forces to their knees!
    3. -3
      22 October 2022 19: 27
      so go to the UN as an eyewitness
    4. 0
      22 October 2022 20: 20
      If they brought engines separately from Germany, separately bodies, separately headlights, and then they assembled it all at a car factory - is this a car made in which country? In mechanical engineering, there are a lot of such examples - someone assembles an installation, for example, a nitrogen one, from complete parts. There is a full vinaigrette and he collected it, and then sold it, he does it under his own brand. Therefore, formally and legally, it is true that Geraniums are not Iranian drones.
  9. +1
    22 October 2022 18: 40
    And what - doesn't Iran have the right to sell weapons on this piece of paper ?? In addition, the United States, as one of the signatories, withdrew from this agreement, which means that it has no force ..
    1. -2
      22 October 2022 19: 02
      Quote: paul3390
      In addition, the United States, as one of the signatories, withdrew from this agreement, which means that it has no force.

      Resolution 2231 approved the agreement, and in addition, at the insistence of the United States, imposed many restrictions on Iran that had no direct bearing on Iran's nuclear program. And this resolution is still in effect.
  10. +2
    22 October 2022 18: 56
    Quote: Comrade Kim
    Fucking hegemons.
    Why does our Foreign Ministry and UN representatives always make excuses for cooperation with Iran?

    What an admiration for the West.
    It would be better if they called Western ambassadors to the carpet in the building of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, in Smolensk, for the supply of Caesars, Javelins, infantry fighting vehicles, etc.
    And they called to hell.
    And the UN demanded that the United States repent for the rockets with shrapnel to the Chimeras, which just now hit the Antonovsky Bridge (there were victims and wounded).

    Why is there a screech to Venus when Geranium/Shakhidka strikes the infrastructure of the Kyiv regime?
    Why is the West silent as a rag when Bandera's Tochka-U with a cluster warhead mows down Russians in Donetsk, or when a Chimera rocket with shrapnel kills Russians on the Antonovsky bridge?

    Everything is simple. When Kyiv hammers at ours with any weapon, including banned ones, and the West supplies multi-billion dollar packages of weapons, then this is normal. Because all this is included in the plans of the West itself. But when we start seriously hammering .... What does it have to do with the use of the Geranium-2 UAV. Here begins the howl and hysteria, as it just spoils the plans of the West. Simply put, everything they do is possible. And it's all legal. Well, we're just "barbarians" ...
  11. +2
    22 October 2022 18: 57
    Well done Iranians - they always answer the blow. Let not always the same weighty, but there is always an answer. Not like our admirers of Western "partners".
    1. 0
      22 October 2022 21: 42
      Quote: Kill the fascist
      Well done Iranians - they always respond to a blow ... there is always an answer. Not like our admirers of Western "partners".

      This is because the Persians have nothing to lose but "spare chains". And our "admirers" ... assets, real estate, relatives ... accounts ... They have something to lose! Again, the nationality of many "activists" does not allow going against compatriots in the promised land .... Alas, AH!
  12. -5
    22 October 2022 19: 00
    Iran hands over UAVs of the Mohajer and Shahed series to Russia, which, according to Kislytsya, violate paragraph 4 of annex "B" of resolution 2231

    Moreover, Russia voted for this resolution imposing various sanctions and prohibitions on Iran, including on arms trade.

    Another evidence of the foresight of our foreign policy, headed by the best foreign minister of all times and peoples, the amazingly gifted Dmitry Borisovich Lavrov.
    1. 0
      22 October 2022 21: 48
      [quote = DenVB] Another testament to the foresight of our foreign policy, led by the best foreign minister of all times and peoples, amazingly gifted Dmitry Borisovich Lavrov.[ / Quote]

      - Brother, yes you, along the way, zalipushnik! (With)

      And what kind of namesake of our Foreign Ministry is this - Sergei Viktorovich Lavrov Or we don’t know something and they changed him ... back in the cradle!? laughing
    2. 0
      23 October 2022 15: 47
      "War cancels all treaties"
  13. +2
    22 October 2022 19: 01
    Quote from Carlos Sala
    Send strong air defense to Iran to prevent Israeli attacks.

    To begin with, I would provide air defense over Belgorod and other cities of the country, and only then I would promise help to Iran (if it needs it from us at all).
  14. +2
    22 October 2022 19: 13
    That is, amers can supply anyone they want and what they want to supply, but Iran can’t, so what?
  15. 0
    22 October 2022 19: 13
    Meanwhile, Ukraine's energy crisis continues to worsen...
    . And Vaska listens and ... continues to do his job.
  16. -2
    22 October 2022 19: 15
    I'm starting to get pissed off with all this nonsense.
    Let the UN figure out who sponsors the Nazi regime. Or did Nazism become legal in our world?
    You can end all this kipish in one way - to crap the Nazi state into DUST and erase the period of its existence from memory.
    Honestly, they have become insane to such an extent that they are trying to threaten a country that they are not even able to REPRESENT in size ...
    Still, you need to bang until they are convinced that they will not calm down ...
  17. +1
    22 October 2022 19: 33
    I think that in half a year it will be possible to establish the production of shahid mopeds without problems, they will also modernize them, and there will actually be completely different devices and artificial intelligence and wolf packs ..
  18. 0
    22 October 2022 19: 37
    It is profitable for Iran to sell UAVs to us, firstly income, secondly advertising
    We are waiting for purchases from Iran Ballistic missiles
    1. 0
      23 October 2022 15: 48
      "Whoever gives in time, gives twice!"
  19. 0
    22 October 2022 20: 22
    Iran threatens the West with a response if the UN investigates the alleged supply of kamikaze drones to Russia
    Iran well done! And we, some are fighting, while others are trading behind their backs. angry
  20. -1
    22 October 2022 20: 23
    Iran will be pressed sooner or later. How do we supply Iran with air defense systems
    1. 0
      23 October 2022 15: 51
      Nobody pressed Russia not to supply the S-400 to Iran. And who can? He prayed to Natanyahu, he even walked into the Immortal Regiment.
  21. -1
    22 October 2022 20: 25
    The guys will be hysterical because they can only use their drones so massively across the territory of the Russian Federation, but there are no such targets in Ukraine, and it will look as if the allies themselves are driving ukrov into the Stone Age, and such a crowd went to the Russian Federation, so this is direct aggression and will arrive a hundred times more painful and in 4 minutes. So they are hysterical from the fact that we are doing well, but they cannot.
  22. 0
    22 October 2022 20: 29
    How Iran can threaten the West. He's being squeezed. Like us for the supply of air defense systems to Iran
  23. 0
    22 October 2022 20: 33
    Previously, bayraktars were laughed at. Some have called it a super weapon. Now we are praying over martyrs. Lived up. Iran to press sooner or later. We need to produce our own UAVs and not hope that Mozambique will sell us spears and arrows
  24. 0
    22 October 2022 20: 42
    Completely lost the compass, the shore is not there)
  25. 0
    22 October 2022 22: 01
    And what threatens Iran? What's worse than eating now? Iran is in the black in fact the Russian Federation, for its part, lifted sanctions and opened its market and banks ....... this is a profit .... and what does the West offer? All negotiations failed, no one fulfills the agreements, Israel threatens with strikes. where is the profit? Iran, like the Turks, are longtime traders.
  26. 0
    22 October 2022 22: 25
    In the West, great masters of investigating. There, the explosion of the gas pipeline was investigated, investigated ......
  27. 0
    24 October 2022 12: 36
    The West is sending high-precision weapons to the Kyiv regime, but why can't Iran help Russia in response to US sanctions? I consider Iran's actions justified and timely. In general, it is high time to organize an alliance against NATO of those countries that are prevented from living peacefully by the United States, its NATO and NATO countries !!! The question is overdue. Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, North Korea, Vietnam and other countries.
  28. 0
    18 November 2022 13: 00
    Quote: al3x
    Ukropov means you can fill up with weapons, and the whole wild West does it, and as Russia bought something from someone, everyone immediately starts yelling "Sentry! Let's introduce Syanksii!" The injector is almost broken, fools.

    What did you think? Gentlemen are always offended when the "lower nations" begin to seriously resist them. It's not fair.