“Where is the money, Zin?”: about the fate of budget billions for the rear

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“Where is the money, Zin?”: about the fate of budget billions for the rear
Source: teltaxi.ru


What if there was a full mobilization?


Let's imagine a terrible situation - on September 21, President Putin would announce not a partial mobilization, but a complete one. Not even full, but conditionally partial, when not 300 thousand, but 1-2 million reservists will be called up to the army. Probably, such a mobilization would have to be stretched out for six months, or even for all twelve months.



Judging by what is happening now, there is really nothing even for one percent of the mobilization reserve. While the rusted mechanisms will work, resources, uniforms and weapon, the enemy, probably, will pass through Red Square in parade columns. These are not even strategic issues - the survival of the state is at stake here.

These quite fair questions were asked in the State Duma by the head of the defense committee, Andrei Kargapolov, and the chairman of the security committee, Vasily Piskarev. On October 17, special hearings are organized, unfortunately closed. Deputy Defense Ministers Aleksey Krivoruchenko and Mikhail Mizintsev will be present as guests.

Since 2018, the first one has been in charge of organizing the military-technical support of the army, supervises the state defense order, as well as planning the development of weapons, military and special equipment. His appearance is quite justified, in the end, in many respects, the supply, including the mobilization structures of the rear, depended on the work of Krivoruchenko.

Colonel General Mikhail Mizintsev, the current Deputy Minister for Logistics, is unlikely to be able to explain anything about spending in the past - he has been in office since September 24th. Prior to that, for eight years he headed the National Defense Control Center of the Russian Federation and had a very indirect relationship to the rear service.

The first person to be called to the hearings is Hero of Russia, Doctor of Economics, General of the Army Dmitry Bulgakov, whom Putin fired three days after the partial mobilization was announced. It was he who since 2008 was responsible for the logistics of the armed forces. However, whether or not to summon him to hearings of various levels and profiles is up to the relevant structures.


Collections for reservists gained the scale of a popular movement. Source: sakhalife.ru

Around what did the scandal flare up, for the investigation of which it was necessary to convene Duma committees? Maybe there was no corresponding money in the budget of the Ministry of Defense? For uniforms, equipment and weapons. No, they were, says Andrey Kartapolov, head of the State Duma Defense Committee. According to him, representatives of the military department fully received everything they counted on.

And there are two questions here.

First, why did they ask so little, since there were not enough shoes and clothes for 300 reservists? This, we recall, is slightly more than one percent of the potential number of mobilized.

The second question - if the money was allocated, then where was it spent? I must say, a stalemate for the officials of the Ministry of Defense responsible for the logistic support of the rear. It remains to wait for the results of the work of the military prosecutor's office on this issue. The Duma has already initiated an appeal to the service with a request to find out the details and name the perpetrators. Nobody canceled the old rule:

"Each state of emergency has a full name and position."

People's special operation


In everything you need to look for the positive side. Even in such a blatant situation with the provision of reservists with everything necessary for the front. See how society responded to the calls of the reservists. If earlier we were talking about Russians rallied around the flag, now we are talking about rallying around reservists.

All over Russia, caring women sew socks, cut out insoles for shoes, buy underwear, collect front-line first-aid kits. Schools and universities have announced collections for uniforms for reservists, girls are learning how to sew balaclavas in class. No other newest story did not have such an impact on the younger generation as the consequences of the special operation. There is a chance that from a society of consumers we will transform our children into personalities with a capital letter. However, we are only at the beginning of the journey and much more needs to be done to achieve this.


Governors are forced to equip reservists at the expense of regional budgets. In the photo - Alexander Moor, head of the Tyumen region. Source: park72.ru

The shortage of essential funds at the front had to be covered by the regional budgets. And it's good when there is enough money, as, for example, in the Tyumen region. The governor personally supervises the re-equipping of fellow countrymen with expensive equipment and equipment there.

And if there are no funds even for the issuance of the promised lump sum? As, for example, in Omsk, where the reservists recorded a video message with questions to the leadership. The money, of course, was immediately found. But if the fighters were shy and did not turn to the public?

All this leads to an unforgivable situation at the front, when there will be "rich" and "poor" units. The governor found money from some for such important thermal imagers, while others will manage with binoculars. We are fighting not at all with semi-literate gangs, but with beasts that have undergone many months of training in NATO countries. It is for this reason that it is necessary to rewind a couple of years back as soon as possible and name the very performers on the ground, through whose fault we are now equipping our guys with the whole world.

Businessmen in Russia have always been disliked, especially the deep people. Some of them, indeed, should say a special "thank you". This is a considerable cohort of those watching the events, like a football match, on the emotions of which you can also profit.

Few examples. In one week from September 21, the body armor on Ozon doubled in price, later some models exceeded a hundred thousand rubles, breaking all conceivable records. Body armor 6B45 jumped in price by 1 percent! Bertsy in a number of regions disappeared from sale altogether. But this is not the limit.

Price peaks were recorded in pharmacies - some hemostatics, tourniquets, occlusive plasters increased by 2 percent. A banal turnstile can no longer be found cheaper than 000 thousand rubles. The record, of course, is held by a decompression needle, which is vital for injuries of the chest cavity, which has risen in price from 15,5 rubles to almost 330 thousand rubles.

What do we profit from, gentlemen pharmacists? On lives?


Businessmen are different. Some prices are multiplied, while other handicraft DZ blocks are made. Source: Telegram

It is impossible to blame all businessmen indiscriminately - most of them perfectly understand what civic duty is and how they can help soldiers at the front and reservists. There are also unique cases.

In the Belgorod region, an unnamed philanthropist organized the production of additional ... dynamic protection plates for tank. Absolutely untested and completely artisanal. At first glance, they will not be able to cause harm, but they are quite capable of protecting, albeit psychologically.

Probably, General Alexei Krivoruchenko, who is responsible for the military-technical support of the army in the Russian Defense Ministry, should pay attention to this precedent. From the inevitability of creating impromptu protection with bars, bags, logs and other elements, caring citizens began to make dynamic protection of their own design.

Truly, a people's special operation. Well, of course, and honorable, but it should not be so.
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  1. +21
    12 October 2022 05: 37
    Well, of course, and honorable, but it should not be so.
    So ask the perpetrators of this in full!
    1. +45
      12 October 2022 05: 46
      So ask the perpetrators of this in full!

      From whom? From the hero of Russia Bulgakov? For this, SMERSH is needed. No other way. No special officers will be allowed to approach him for a cannon shot. We live in Russia, you know..
      1. +42
        12 October 2022 07: 31
        1.
        Governors are forced to equip reservists at the expense of regional budgets.

        The money of regional budgets is formed from taxes on citizens, the same personal income tax. So it's the people who pay, and not the governor forked out.
        2.
        It is impossible to indiscriminately blame all businessmen - most of them perfectly understand what civic duty is and how they can

        90% of the deputies of regional and municipal parliaments are large and medium-sized businesses. That is the ruling class. Didn't see these in the forefront in defense of their state .
        1. +15
          12 October 2022 08: 08
          And how not to remember theft in WW1 and Russian-Japanese?
          1. +17
            12 October 2022 08: 26
            Quote: Reptiloid
            And how not to remember theft in WW1 and Russian-Japanese?

            Everything is here-
            https://topwar.ru/3289-o-chyom-ne-pishut-v-uchebnikax-pro-russko-yaponskuyu-vojnu.html
            - Ginsburg received the right to supply the Russian Pacific squadron with coal, he buys the lowest quality coal in Japan and supplies them with the Russian fleet, at the same time profiting, worsening the driving performance of Russian ships and supporting Japan with Russian money.

            - Construction work in Port Arthur was entrusted to the Chinese Tifontay, who received first-class cement from Russia, sold it to the Japanese, bought low-quality cement in Japan, and as a result of such machinations, Port-Arthur fortifications were not completed by the beginning of the war.

            “Already during the war, the troops didn’t get the shells, maps, uniforms, there was no uniform of khaki color, the soldiers had to paint it themselves. Theft thrived in the rear - they stole boots and food. And not one quartermaster for the war was shot!

            - Admiral Nebogatov was forgiven and he passed a detachment of ships during the Tsushima battle without a fight. The commandant of Port Arthur Stessel was not hanged for the surrender of the fortress, although she could still stand, chaining the forces and means of the enemy. The governor of the Far East, the "admiral" Alekseev, was not punished.

            request
            1. +7
              12 October 2022 10: 54
              Quote: Civil
              - Construction work in Port Arthur was entrusted to the Chinese Tifontay, who received first-class cement from Russia, sold it to the Japanese, bought low-quality cement in Japan, and as a result of such machinations, Port-Arthur fortifications were not completed by the beginning of the war.

              And they were not supposed to be completed by 1904. Optimizers from the Ministry of Finance stretched the construction of the defensive line right up to 1909.
              Although the design of the fortress was finally approved in 1900, the work nevertheless started a little earlier. But due to small cash holidays, work was not carried out immediately, but was divided into three stages, with the expectation to complete the construction of the entire fortress in 1909. Until 1904, when the Russo-Japanese War broke out, a total of 4 ¼ million rubles were allocated for the defensive work of Port Arthur, that is, less than one third of what was needed.
              © Yakovlev
              Moreover, in those days, the accusations of poor quality concrete were not confirmed.
              Moreover, it would be beneficial for those who examined it to blame everything on Tifontay - in order to get the leadership of the military department and the Ministry of Finance out of the blow, through whose incredible efforts Port Arthur received an absolutely unusable line of defense - both tactically and technically.
              First of all, when designing the Port Arthur fortifications, they were based on an official certificate given by the Asian part of the then General Staff, according to which the Japanese assumed the absence of artillery over 15 cm in caliber. To meet the economic conditions, this led to the abandonment of the 1,5-1,8-2,4 m thick concrete vaults of casemated buildings adopted by the engineering department and a reduction in the thickness of the vaults and walls in the Arthurian fortifications by 0,3 m. But during production work, due to the same economic considerations, the local authorities allowed military engineers to reduce the thickness of the vaults by another 0,3 m, and in some places by 0,6 m. other important defense organs turned out to be only 0,91 m. There were also complaints about the quality of concrete, but the competent commission revealed the injustice of these complaints. But in any case, the 0,9-m arches could withstand shells no more than 15-cm caliber. Meanwhile, the Japanese brought up 28-cm coastal howitzers, unloaded them, using the port of Dalniy, which was well equipped by Russia, and began to bombard Port Arthur fortifications with powerful shells. Of course, they could not withstand this bombardment by the 0,9-m arches of buildings and made their way from one hit.
              © Yakovlev
          2. +6
            12 October 2022 11: 36
            Quote: Reptiloid
            And how not to remember theft in WW1 and Russian-Japanese?

            When Nicholas II was informed that private suppliers were shamelessly jacking up prices, the tsar replied, let them earn.
            1. +8
              12 October 2022 11: 44
              And he did not nationalize the defense industry! But the bourgeoisie and the Duma repaid him.
          3. +2
            12 October 2022 16: 47
            Quote: Reptiloid
            And how not to remember theft in WW1 and Russian-Japanese?

            either Saltykov-Shchedrin, or Tolstoy:

            “If I fall asleep and wake up in a hundred years and they ask me what is happening in Russia now, I will answer: they drink and steal.”
          4. +5
            12 October 2022 17: 32
            In Russia, everything changes in 10 years, but nothing in 100 years.
            1. +3
              12 October 2022 17: 43
              And this cycle does not please. Is it really true
              Night.Street.Lantern. Pharmacy.
              A senseless and dim light.
              Live at least a quarter of a century -----
              Everything will be so, there is no outcome.
              You die, you start over again
              And everything will return, as of old:
              The night, the icy ripple of the canal,
              Pharmacy, street, lantern
              Alexander Blok
              Quote: UAZ 452
              In Russia, everything changes in 10 years, but nothing in 100 years.
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        3. -5
          12 October 2022 08: 47
          Quote: Civil
          1.
          Governors are forced to equip reservists at the expense of regional budgets.

          The money of regional budgets is formed from taxes on citizens, the same personal income tax. So it's the people who pay, and not the governor forked out.
          2.
          It is impossible to indiscriminately blame all businessmen - most of them perfectly understand what civic duty is and how they can

          90% of the deputies of regional and municipal parliaments are large and medium-sized businesses. That is the ruling class. Didn't see these in the forefront in defense of their state .

          The federal budget also does not come from the sky ...
          Quote: Civil
          90% of the deputies of regional and municipal parliaments are large and medium-sized businesses.

          Information about the deputies who decided to participate in hostilities is not classified and, if desired, is quite accessible.
          1. +12
            12 October 2022 08: 57
            Quote: Alexey Sedykin
            Information about the deputies who decided to participate in hostilities is not classified and, if desired, is quite accessible.

            I'm talking about money ... from the majority of deputies, due to age, there is little sense on the front line. Where are the columns trucks with property purchased for the mobilized? With medical kits?
            1. +11
              12 October 2022 09: 07
              When the REV began, caricatures of the Japanese appeared, and then what ..... And Prince Tsushima is an effective manager. I took care of myself, I took care of diamonds for the lady
            2. -10
              12 October 2022 09: 09
              Maybe they are sent ... but, after all, it is we who choose them.
              1. +16
                12 October 2022 09: 16
                Quote: Alexey Sedykin
                Maybe they are sent ... but, after all, it is we who choose them.

                Where as, but in general, yes. However, the masters, due to greed, have no sense of self-preservation at all. They are no longer expected to go to the west, and they are in no hurry to respect their fellow citizens. The price tags are an indication of this. On the ground, the wildest pulling money from the mobilized and their families began.
              2. +10
                12 October 2022 09: 30
                Personally, I didn't choose them. """"
                1. +9
                  12 October 2022 11: 39
                  Quote from AdAstra
                  Personally, I didn't choose them. """"

                  We don't choose them at all. We choose parties and we know only three names at the head of the list. And no one knows who is in the middle.
                  1. +5
                    12 October 2022 16: 26
                    And he never voted for EP, and only for Putin the first time, and then only because there was very little hope, even though he seemed to me muddy from the very beginning despite his "wet in the toilet."
                  2. -1
                    12 October 2022 17: 30
                    To the State Duma, yes, but to regional deputies?
                    1. 0
                      13 October 2022 10: 12
                      And in them, these are better seen, no matter how they pretend.
                2. 0
                  12 October 2022 22: 44
                  Quote from AdAstra
                  Personally, I didn't choose them. """"

                  That's what 90% of the population says. And not only in Russia. But both in Ukraine and in the USA ... But someone chose one of them. Have....
      2. +20
        12 October 2022 10: 43
        the hero of Russia, Bulgakov, has already been appointed to a new position, of course, he can be just a wedding general in it, but this is another characteristic of Putin's current vertical. In principle, this approach allows it to exist steadily, reducing the likelihood of conspiracies against the “leader”, people are allowed to steal, and if they get caught, the maximum that they will be transferred to another position, the main thing is that they demonstrate loyalty and humility.
        1. -5
          12 October 2022 17: 28
          Come on... back in the USSR, the head of the district hospital stole him and punished him... appointed director of the sanatorium. laughing In the 90s, he again became the head physician.
      3. +5
        12 October 2022 12: 28
        A gangway will gather and strictly ask: "-Bratella, where is the common fund?" Answer: "Yes, the dead bastard Yaponchik, he took everything to Greece. Therefore, everything is there."
      4. +5
        12 October 2022 15: 15
        That's for sure...
        If you ask from all the guilty, then you will have to organize purges like 37-38 years ...
        Not in the sense of the camps, of course, but in terms of the scale of the purges and "imprisonments" ... But now the time is different, the system is different, there are many "untouchables", clans, connections, "hand washes hand", etc. Despite the fact that their actions are not only theft and corruption, but in fact, sabotage, sabotage, treason to a certain extent.
        And for everything indicatively they will be asked from the "switchmen" ...
        And there will be no SMERSH, of course ...
      5. +10
        12 October 2022 15: 31
        Quote from: laws70
        From the hero of Russia Bulgakov?

        I wonder why they gave him the Hero? We already have heroes of capitalist labor, but what is this hero? Embezzlement? And what degree? am
      6. +7
        12 October 2022 18: 26
        For this, SMERSH is needed. No other way. No special officers will be allowed to approach him for a cannon shot. We live in Russia, you understand.

        Who is SMERSH? Not special? Well, they are organizing a structure with that name now in order to please the public, so what? They will be recruited from the employees of the current special services, who compiled an analytical report on Ukraine by February 24, guarding the Crimean bridge (I know that there was a private security company there, but since the special services did not raise the issue, it means that everything suited them - in which case it was not for them to answer, and so it turned out ). The main task of this SMERSH (from the word smeshariki, in our realities) will be not to reach out to themselves and their superiors during investigations. And in order to fulfill the order, they will appoint and grab switchmen on an industrial scale, again - in order to appease the electorate, which is always eager for blood, and few people are interested in whose blood it is, how guilty the person appointed is really guilty.
      7. +1
        12 October 2022 21: 03
        Oh, and Comrade Bulgakov enriched himself, in a vacuum, and no one saw anything, including those who installed him))) wassat
      8. 0
        13 October 2022 07: 31
        Well, why not. when *they* need it, Basmanny justice comes into play. working diagram. would like to..
    2. +20
      12 October 2022 10: 11
      The author is so strange - he pretends that he does not know where the money has gone ... The scheme is known to everyone: outsourcing, subcontracting, a bunch of intermediary companies, and other schemes for raising prices for products and services, pulling finances into different pockets in which, bast shoes produced in Tula for 10 rubles, until it gets through a bunch of hands to the buyer in Vladivostok, it will already cost 1000 rubles. Moreover, all this is quite legal and is not subject to punishment - everything is within the framework of the law.
    3. +8
      12 October 2022 13: 50
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      Well, of course, and honorable, but it should not be so.
      So ask the perpetrators of this in full!

      Quote from Yuri Podolyaki's channel:
      A source near the RF Ministry of Defense confirmed the appointment of Dmitry Bulgakov, ex-chief of logistics of the RF Armed Forces, to the post of inspector general in the department of general inspectors of the RF Ministry of Defense.

      In general, Bulgakov overriding inspector, he will soon give us answers on how, who and where spent the money of the RF Ministry of Defense bully hi

      It's our way, to give authority to investigate their own "shortcomings" laughing
      1. +9
        12 October 2022 15: 18
        And the pike was thrown into the river. Drowned her! Now he will conduct an investigation - what have I done? How does this differ from the reign of 1904-1914.
    4. +5
      12 October 2022 14: 41
      To whom? An author who does not put the readers of his opus in a penny? Or readers? So the reader is a cannon shot to those who will not be allowed to ask. And the afftor of this opus just doesn’t give a damn ....
    5. +1
      12 October 2022 15: 00
      If you ask from all the guilty, then you will have to organize purges like 37-38 years ...
      Not in the sense of the camps, of course, but in terms of the scale of the purges and "imprisonments" ... But now the time is different, the system is different, there are many "untouchables", clans, connections, "hand washes hand", etc.
      And for everything indicatively they will be asked from the "switchmen" ...
  2. +76
    12 October 2022 05: 49
    You need to ask not from the generals, but from the GDP. We have such a situation wherever you touch. There are no covid masks, no doctors, money is stolen and not paid. Volunteers collect, help, make. I wonder who brought medicine to such a state? Fires in the taiga - citizens should take the initiative, grab buckets and shovels and go to extinguish. I wonder who reduced the number of forestry enterprises? Flooding-citizens rather need to dig ditches and erect dams from sandbags. I wonder who UOS and other organizations dispersed, optimized? Help the poor and those with many children gather children for school, citizens. Where is the welfare? We also collect for the operation on TV. We have such a situation everywhere - citizens take the initiative. And all enterprises are more or less large, etc. in the regions were captured by Moscow merchant boys. They pay taxes to Moscow. The day before yesterday I went to pay for electricity, the owner is now Rosatom. One ticket office for the whole city remained (the rest, optimized,), noise, din, pandemonium and chaos. And Mr. Putin only expresses surprise and asks,, to be treated with understanding and not to rock the boat,,. And now also gather yourself for the war and go to protect the property of the oligarchs. The very ones that are now refusing Russian citizenship.
    1. -34
      12 October 2022 07: 09
      You need to ask those who are responsible for this. Will you run out of toilet paper with GDP, or will you ask yourself?
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        1. -21
          12 October 2022 10: 11
          [/ quote] And since the GDP has run out of contractors and equipment, then let it get out ................ I don’t remember that he even consulted with the State Duma before getting into this adventure. [quote ]

          1. And where did you get the idea that contract soldiers and equipment ran out?
          2. Should the president consult with the Duma?
          Can another poll be conducted through the media? Maybe demand a report from the GRU, let them tell the people what they have scouted.
          You either wrote from deep dislike or simply did not think.
          1. +16
            12 October 2022 10: 32
            1. And where did you get the idea that contract soldiers and equipment ran out?


            After all, mobilization was required from scratch, and the contract soldiers really began to thin out a lot, but with equipment, you can already see which tanks and infantry fighting vehicles fall into the chronicle.

            2. Should the president consult with the Duma?

            With the actual why shouldn't, or you endow the president with superpowers, thanks to which he never makes mistakes, cannot be misled. For example, starting this SVO with such forces as it began is a clear mistake, worse than that, it can even be a crime.
            1. -13
              12 October 2022 10: 47
              There is a law of who should or should not with whom and on what occasion. The technology is what it is. Yes, unfortunately, in our combat units it’s not the same as in parades. Well, restored from storage. Since there are exceptionally good neighboring states around us, then exposing the border is not an option at all. Regarding the mistakes and the number of troops in the NVO, yes, a mistake or someone's betrayal. Maybe such as nightingales, who has been calling for years about the brotherly people. And perhaps just a rotten system of reports that the boss in the Moscow Region will like. Well, appointments to higher positions in accordance with personal devotion and not with business qualities and abilities. Those who have their own opinion, and even different from the bossy one, will never be appointed to the top, unfortunately. Yes, relying on the Crimean option was a mistake. Yes, intelligence about the state of the whole thing got completely fucked up, mid in the same heap. Well, obviously, few people expected that such a quantity of weapons and equipment would go to the outskirts.
              1. +6
                12 October 2022 15: 26
                Voronezh. Have you read somewhere that at least one of the perpetrators was sent to hell? Deprived of awards and pensions and so on? That's exactly how Krylov wrote about how they judged a pike and drowned it in the river. Are there many mistakes with factories and the rest? They created a bunch of officials subject to the president and they mock the people, of course it happens ...
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            1. -8
              12 October 2022 14: 45
              Your idol, who is a fighter for all that is good against all that is bad, is packed tightly and for a long time.
              1. +5
                12 October 2022 19: 39
                Yes unfortunately...
                But here your idol is alive and well, his work lives and wins!
                Or until he wins?
                Nothing, if you are really related to the city of Voronezh, soon, most likely, you will feel the new missile technologies of the West on your precious skin.
                Then at least some kind of enlightenment should come in your children's brains ...
                1. -1
                  12 October 2022 23: 21
                  Well, here comes the European inside. Or yellow-blue? Probably ordered a brand with a burning bridge for yourself?
                2. 0
                  17 October 2022 04: 55
                  Sooner or later, a skirmish with the West would still take place. With this development it is difficult to predict what will happen. Here a lot of water is poured out of ignorance on the leaders. Put yourself in their place and try to answer how you would have acted. But only without fantasies that I would ..... did like this. And then the practice begins - where, how and on what and with what and how to organize it and where to get the capacities and trained people and foresee all this in advance in our rapidly changing world. . In general, what and how much is needed in general for MTO.
                  Many, if not all, here have never led teams or run a business and do not understand the intricacies of managing, organizing, planning and sourcing even within a small firm. And then large-scale state planning, taking into account the rapidly changing situation in the world in general.
            2. -11
              12 October 2022 17: 40
              Quote from Gromit
              He must be removed, and after the Victory - judged, along with his friend Shoigu, relatives and precious Medvedchuk.
              Someone will say "It's not time, it's turmoil", but I will say that there is still no sense from him now. Traveling to summits with Honduras and Eritrea and confusingly broadcasting from a bunker once a month can be 2-3,5-10 persons of the state.
              And the chance that this company will privatize the victory won in spite of them and will be delayed for another 20 years is very high.
              Reply


              Get over it ... nothing shines for all the bulkers and leftists. Like it didn't shine before.
              1. 0
                12 October 2022 17: 52
                What a beauty. And who is this to you, my friend, forwarded my post marked Reply? The last line under the quote?
                Did the bulkers with the leftists throw it?
                Shtirlits hack, unfasten the parachute.
                1. -4
                  13 October 2022 10: 06
                  What, for the living hurt? Don't like the truth...
          3. 0
            16 October 2022 03: 21
            Quote from Voronezh
            Should the president consult with the Duma?

            Well, as it were, in order to use our armed forces abroad, the president must receive approval from the Federation Council, at least. And this time, unlike in 2014, I don’t remember such an event at all. This is generally a good idea - when decisions are made by more than one person in the company of sycophants.
      2. 0
        12 October 2022 17: 31
        So for your information, the GDP answers as "GUARANTEE OF THE CONSTITUTION", e.p.t.
    2. -29
      12 October 2022 08: 48
      The cat gave birth to kittens is Putin to blame?
      1. +16
        12 October 2022 10: 42
        The cat gave birth to kittens, is Putin to blame?
        ,, Funny ,,, even uss ... . And who appointed incompetent people to these positions (this is at best)?
        1. -10
          12 October 2022 17: 37
          How cool ... why figure out who exactly heaped up. Everything is simply Putin's fault and that's it.
      2. +21
        12 October 2022 11: 37
        The cat started the special operation?
        Or a specific person gave an order? Publicly? On TV in front of millions of people?
        Did a cat or a specific person completely rely on inflated figures to put it mildly in the reports of intelligence at all levels, the Foreign Ministry, the General Staff, economists and analysts?
        A cat or a specific person should be responsible for all the flaws of the CBO being carried out?
        Who should be responsible for the mess that is going on at the fronts today? For the total theft of the same uniform? Cat?
        Who is at the head of the vertical of power in Russia? Who is in total control of everything? Also a cat?
        1. +5
          12 October 2022 19: 28
          This is a cat!
          An old, shabby, tattered cat, pumped up with Botox...
          1. -4
            13 October 2022 10: 08
            How many more will be piled up in our country ... after the bosses, do you want to dump? It will be much cleaner here without you.
        2. -4
          13 October 2022 10: 10
          At 41, according to your Stalin and the government, it was necessary at least to probably resign immediately ... and before that, shoot the General Staff
  3. +15
    12 October 2022 05: 50
    The peculiarity of the military operation lies in the fact that it unwittingly and unwittingly reveals a lot of problems generated by the "sweet" advice of Western consultants in the 90s: optimization of the number in various sectors (health care, control and law enforcement agencies, including the army ( reduction of the officer corps, the number of employees of the military registration and enlistment offices, the sale of military property and NZ literally for next to nothing, etc.) The West of NATO led Russia to the slaughter.
    1. +8
      12 October 2022 06: 23
      in the 90-s

      hi
      It's fun to listen and read our people. If you turn on the brain, then it is directly obvious that those who were in the 80s and 90s are still in power. True, some have grown old, for example, our commander in chief, Zyu and others. Others have already introduced themselves, Zhirik, Kabzon, etc. The consultants consulted and left for their homes, while the performers stayed. We used to live in godless socialism, but now we live in a satanic democracy and it is stupid to look for patriots in power who love Russians and other indigenous peoples of Russia. For our Russian people, the final battle for existence has begun, and if we do not come to the Lord with His help and unite, then the fate of the American Indians awaits us at best. And it’s not worth it to envy or drool with anger due to the fact that someone stole something there. They will not take a penny to the other world anyway, but they will carry away their unrepentant sins in full. I wish you all peace and kindness. Yes
      1. +8
        12 October 2022 09: 20
        Others have already introduced themselves

        on appointment or upon arrival?? lol
        1. +4
          12 October 2022 09: 33
          Upon arrival and destination. hi "" ""
          1. +4
            12 October 2022 09: 36
            and by assignment? another, so to speak
            1. +1
              12 October 2022 10: 30
              If only by assigning the appropriate boiler (I hope).
        2. +1
          12 October 2022 09: 48
          By assigning the next ...))) (my comment is too short and does not carry a semantic load)
      2. +5
        12 October 2022 10: 07
        Understand and forgive? The text of your comment is too short and, according to the site administration, does not contain useful information.
    2. +8
      12 October 2022 10: 38
      Quote: oracul
      reveals a lot of problems generated by the "sweet" advice of Western consultants in the 90s

      These problems did not appear in the 90s, but much later. And not because of some "Western consultants", but thanks to homegrown thieves. These are their own, native thieves who plundered military warehouses, and not the West.
    3. +14
      12 October 2022 11: 14
      Enough already on the 90s to bring down.
      For 20 years, the Union has risen from the ashes and won the leadership of scientific and technological progress. Space conquered.
      Miserable Singapore for 20 years from a dirty sewer has become one of the world's financial centers.
      Ruined and divided Germany for 20 years again became a leader in terms of economic power.
      1. 0
        12 October 2022 21: 52
        We have risen from the ashes, but those who have not completely risen are the military registration and enlistment offices. A little nix and caviar throwing began.
  4. +1
    12 October 2022 06: 01
    "The lack of essential funds at the front had to be covered by the regional budgets. And it's good when there is enough money, as, for example, in the Tyumen region. The governor personally controls the re-equipping of fellow countrymen with expensive equipment and equipment there." - for information, the regional authorities are responsible for conducting the mobilization in their territories, and this means FOLLOW the provision of all the necessary to the draftees, of course this does not remove responsibility from M.O. but it is not worth blaming the Ministry of Defense unambiguously.
  5. +29
    12 October 2022 06: 04
    They can hang several high-ranking quartermasters - this will be established by the court. But that won't solve the problem. Much more relevant question "What to do?". Why, for half a year of positional warfare, the state does not take control of the relevant enterprises. This is done in wartime by any market country. This work was to be done by the deputies of the relevant committees, the Defense Ministry and the Security Council.
    They are all power. And the power is indestructible "United ...".
    And it turns out, as in the old days, "horse and arms appear." It's a shame!
    1. +5
      12 October 2022 07: 36
      Quote: samarin1969
      And it turns out, as in the old days, "horse and arms appear." It's a shame!

      Probably, to begin with, it is necessary to adjust the inventory accounting system itself. For example, for 22 years after my dismissal, no one called me to the Higher Court of Justice, at least to update my credentials. How will the military registration and enlistment offices know what to equip me with if I retired in size 50, and today I need 54-56? Obviously, things are no better with "upgrading / maintaining qualifications." In general, the topic was touched upon by the author hastily ... Kartapolov (not Kargapolov) sent a request to the Prosecutor General's Office on this topic. I think it's being investigated. Here are the materials of the investigation, or rather, what will be missed in the media (the mobilization topic is always secret), it will be possible to discuss. I will only add that this partial mobilization should be a serious lesson to us and our leadership, because the circumstances for full mobilization are brewing every day. These are huge funds, which, regardless of our (and theirs too) wish to appease the people with additional social goodies before the elections, will have to be spent on mobilization readiness, both material and organizational.
    2. +2
      12 October 2022 09: 19
      Quote: samarin1969
      Why, for half a year of positional warfare, the state does not take control of the relevant enterprises. This is done in wartime by any market country.

      Of this NOT did not a single capitalist country in the world.
      Orders - yes, no more ....
    3. +6
      12 October 2022 10: 01
      Why, for half a year of positional warfare, the state does not take control of the relevant enterprises. This is done in wartime by any market country. This work was to be done by the deputies of the relevant committees, the Defense Ministry and the Security Council.
      Well, what are you, the right word! You argue like an ordinary person, friends with common sense and head. The capitalist thinks in completely different categories. He does not care how much blood will be shed, what a mess will be. If only he himself survived and his money. Yes, and profit - ANY price. As soon as you introduce this constant into the equation of life, the result will immediately become clear, why this happens with us. It's like that all over the world.
      1. +6
        12 October 2022 11: 06
        The capitalist thinks in completely different categories. He does not care how much blood will be shed, what a mess will be. If only he himself survived and his money. Yes, and profit - ANY price.

        The scheme is conditional. There are dozens of states with a national bourgeoisie. They provide technological breakthroughs and invest in the modernization of the country. Pretty patriotic.
        And there is, as in the Russian Federation, the comprador bourgeoisie of "people of the world."

        ps Everyone has their own political "faith". It is fashionable in VO to believe that only "socialism" will solve all the problems of Russia.
        1. +3
          12 October 2022 16: 53
          The scheme is conditional. There are dozens of states with a national bourgeoisie. They provide technological breakthroughs and invest in the modernization of the country. Pretty patriotic.
          And you take an interest in what methods the STATE forced the capitalists to behave this way. In the Russian Federation, the capitalists are Western-oriented, and there they are nationally oriented. Here I agree with this. As soon as the state loosens the noose around the neck of a nationally oriented capitalist, he will immediately become who-knows-oriented.
          ps Everyone has their own political "faith". It is fashionable in VO to believe that only "socialism" will solve all the problems of Russia.
          At the current historical moment, society has not come up with anything better. And the fact that some cannot wipe themselves without servants and be proud of it is their problem. There is no other idea than socialism that improves human society. Averting him from animal instincts and obscurantism. Under capitalism, they make money on this.
          Here it is exclusively not against other ideas of a similar kind, but they are not. Maybe you are overwhelmed? It would be terribly interesting. Absolutely serious, no jokes.
  6. +27
    12 October 2022 06: 24
    And it’s scary and disgusting to read about the theft and impunity of bureaucrats ... Why be surprised if, until the last, the red-haired bastard Chubais was always at the trough and held in high esteem, and as soon as he fled, it turned out that he was a thief .... Who is this circus for ?!
    1. +4
      12 October 2022 09: 22
      that he was a thief - it turned out much earlier, but he fled when they could lie down to answer
      1. +1
        12 October 2022 19: 22
        Why weren't they attracted?
        And who is so pierced?
        Do you want to voice your last name, comrade couch general?
    2. +6
      12 October 2022 11: 45
      One Chubais only a thief? I will name a dozen thieves and traitors who are in power and now rule the country. And they feel great.
  7. +3
    12 October 2022 06: 25
    "A few examples. In one week from September 21, the price of body armor on Ozon doubled, later some models exceeded a hundred thousand rubles, breaking all conceivable records. Body armor 6B45 jumped in price by 1 percent! Bertsy in a number of regions disappeared altogether from sale. But this is not the limit. "- and here is information from the Internet for today,
    Body armor 6b45 size 2
    20 000 ₽
    - Body armor 6B45, original, size 2, plates 5a with documents. I will deliver in the city at my own expense. If I didn't answer, I'll call you back, thanks. - Let's calculate if they went up in price by 1830%, their cost was 10 rubles. bullshit is the same for honey. drugs, for which the author collected and exposed unverified information, in wartime this is considered as ..........
    1. +5
      12 October 2022 06: 48
      Good morning! Body armor of class 4-5 cannot cost 20 thousand. The very fact of its sale at such a price on ozone suggests the idea of ​​its "foggy" origin.
      That is why prices float there, because their current "owners" have not paid a single ruble for them.
      1. +5
        12 October 2022 11: 01
        Why can't this class 4-5 body armor cost less than 20 sput? How else can it be, if fiberglass instead of Kevlar, Chinese porcelain instead of armored ceramics, and silumin instead of titanium. And the fact that the numbers 4-5 are written there, they write the same on the fence laughing
        1. +2
          12 October 2022 17: 38
          Well, forgive me for being naive, I didn’t think so badly about people. However, on ozone, you are right, it is quite possible to run into such a g ....
          Speaking of Kevlar, the issue with domestic aramids is also relevant ... recourse
    2. +8
      12 October 2022 07: 03
      bulletproof vest on Ozon doubled in price,
      And why be surprised, For it was said. Russia doomed to liberalism, to a market economy.
    3. +8
      12 October 2022 09: 52
      6b45 is produced only under the state defense order. Other departments did not purchase it. If it's for sale online, it's stolen. This is what the article is about.
  8. +14
    12 October 2022 06: 34
    It has been said more than once - it is necessary to knock out the motivation for enrichment from under an official of any level .. It is necessary that the opening of this or that business does not depend on him, but on the LAW .. To knock the ground out from under the feet of those who want to give a bribe ... To hell with a moratorium on death penalty! It is necessary to eradicate the desire - to earn at any cost ..
    1. -1
      12 October 2022 09: 24
      Quote: Sergey Samkov
      To cut the ground from under the feet of those who want to give a bribe ... To hell with a moratorium on the death penalty! It is necessary to eradicate the desire - to earn at any cost ..

      I will support - I brought a bribe / gave a traffic cop - get your 10 years. Obviously the intent was to circumvent the law .....
      Otherwise, it’s somehow unfair - the official is a tower, and his bribe-giver is only 3 years old ...
      1. +6
        12 October 2022 10: 45
        It is necessary to shoot top-level managers who steal billions, then the corruption will resolve itself at the bottom. And if you chase doctors for chocolates and gays for 5 thousand rubles, then you will never achieve results. Process for the sake of process.
        1. -4
          12 October 2022 14: 33
          Quote: forty-eighth
          It is necessary to shoot top-level managers who steal billions, then the corruption will resolve itself at the bottom. And if you chase doctors for chocolates and gays for 5 thousand rubles, then you will never achieve results. Process for the sake of process.

          Well, they shot the entire top of the army by 1937, and what? How did this affect the combat capability of the army? Did they retreat to Moscow in six months?
          Or if those commanders remained unshot, would they retreat to Baikal?
          Quote: forty-eighth
          And if you chase after doctors for chocolates and for gays because of 5 thousand rubles

          I personally know a traffic cop who was deeply indignant that Chubais had left. When I hinted to him that he differs from Chubais only in the amount of bribes - he was very indignant and yelled - that I don’t understand that Chubais stole everything, and he only a piece ...
          "I'm not Chubais" - every bribe-taker thinks - "for what????!"
          For the layman, a governor or a minister who was imprisoned somewhere far away in Moscow is an abstraction, and Kolya is a neighbor, and suddenly he was imprisoned for bribes.
          The effect is much higher - not a distant abstraction never seen, but a neighbor
          1. +4
            12 October 2022 15: 07
            Quote: your1970
            Well, they shot the entire top of the army by 1937, and what? How did this affect the combat capability of the army? Did they retreat to Moscow in six months?
            Or if those commanders remained unshot, would they retreat to Baikal?

            Shot, retreated, won.
            And if they hadn’t been shot, maybe they would have retreated to Baikal. Or maybe they would not have retreated, but right on the border they would have torn apart the Fritz. Or maybe they would have given up right there. Or maybe they fought, and they would have surrendered later. Or maybe they wouldn’t give up and everyone would die right there. Or maybe ... Do you propose to talk further about nothing ???
            Quote: your1970
            When I hinted to him that he differs from Chubais only in the amount of bribes - he was very indignant and yelled - that I don’t understand that Chubais stole everything, and he only stole a piece

            So he's right. In criminal law, there is a concept of the amount of damage caused. He stole a little - they will be judged for little. He stole a lot - they will be judged for major damage. A lot - especially large. And if you stole just a drop, then you won’t fall under a criminal offense at all.
            Quote: your1970
            For the layman, a governor or a minister who was imprisoned somewhere far away in Moscow is an abstraction, and Kolya is a neighbor, and suddenly he was imprisoned for bribes.

            A million who stole 5000 rubles in damages correspond to the machinations of one figure for 5 yards. Just to bring this million to justice, you need to load the entire law enforcement system with work for three hundred years. And a small group of specialists will pack a figure in a zone in a couple of years. The effect is the same, but the costs of time and resources are simply incommensurable.
            So do not shoot sparrows from a cannon. The Chinese tried, nothing smart happened.
  9. +22
    12 October 2022 06: 41
    And how the generals and those close to them like to complain about Serdyukov. 10 years have passed since he is not the Minister of Defense. Maybe the reason is not in him, but in the military themselves? The war came, but there was no one to fight, the people had to leave the plow, and take away the machines. Where is the army of recipients of benefits, apartments, early retirement, etc. For a moment, all this was taken away from the national economy in the expectation that they might have to fight, die. But this is the risk of the profession, not everyone will decide to serve. But it turned out that many people crammed into the army who came not to defend their homeland, but to receive benefits. The real ones are at the front, but here there are thieves who sell bulletproof vests. Somehow, volunteers from the rear units are not visible, storming the command with reports about being sent to the army in the field.
    1. -1
      12 October 2022 06: 57
      Don't generalize! If you personally do not see such reports, this does not mean that they do not exist. It is not necessary so about all the sun.
    2. +21
      12 October 2022 07: 06
      10 years have passed since he
      They take an example. For 30 years there has been no Soviet power, but the Soviet Union is to blame, moreover, Lenin is to blame.
    3. +2
      12 October 2022 09: 57
      There are reports. People go and die. And not 140-200 thousand are fighting there, but about half a million on a rotational basis. And the police are on their way, and the Sobr and OMON units are also there. It's just that they are not all there at the same time, but in turn. There are units that have been there for 7-9 months from the first days (the group was formed in November) - these are air defense, RTV, RVGK artillery, aviation and many others.
    4. -3
      12 October 2022 10: 23
      You can’t see because you don’t stand next to the sun. You are obviously one of those who like to shout about other people's benefits, pensions and other benefits, and when you ask why you didn’t go to the service yourself, so in response, well, I want to be at home at 18 o’clock and drink beer and take 2 days off and put it on. And there are enough volunteers in units, I myself know such.
      1. 0
        13 October 2022 13: 13
        Of course, no one will name the number of five hundredths, but the figure is apparently depressing, since mobilization had to be announced. And yet these people served for benefits, but the work is dusty, but the main goal is to fight it when necessary. Don't pull the strap.
  10. +15
    12 October 2022 06: 44
    These quite fair questions were asked in the State Duma by the head of the defense committee, Andrei Kargapolov, and the chairman of the security committee, Vasily Piskarev.

    They were asked very "on time". The money was most likely invested in dachas, yachts and other attributes of a prosperous bourgeoisie.
  11. -3
    12 October 2022 06: 53
    Quote: Enoch
    in the 90-s

    hi
    that those who were in the 80s and 90s are still in power. True, some have grown old, for example, our commander in chief, Zyu and others. We used to live in godless socialism, but now we live in a satanic democracy and it is stupid to look for patriots in power who love Russians and other indigenous peoples of Russia. For our Russian people, the final battle for existence has begun Yes

    If a people has been waging a "battle for existence" for decades in their own, richest country in the world among the wonders of technology of the 21st century, then this is not the case that the Indians had. This is much worse..... This is the case when the dancers get in the way with their own balls.

    The people who in the 90s twice recognized the President of the criminal who divided their country.

    The people who betrayed the Soviet oath in 91, and in October 93 allowed the execution of the Congress of People's Deputies, and are now dissatisfied with Uncle Zyu? It is hardly worth hoping for the help of the Lord for such a people ... .

    If you really believe in God, you should understand that our deeds are about the same as those of the ancient Jews who betrayed Christ, and after 33 years got a war with Rome. As a reward for betrayal.

    People's troubles without national sins, "for nothing" - do not happen!!
    1. +6
      12 October 2022 07: 11
      in October 93 - allowed the execution
      You really don't know how many hundred people Yeltsin killed then?
    2. +15
      12 October 2022 07: 21
      Quote: ivan2022
      The people who in the 90s twice recognized the President of the criminal who divided their country.
      The people who

      Well done, Vanya, blame everything on the people. The fact that there is no salary at the plant is the fault of the workers, not the director. In any case, the director could not do anything, only to approve the benefits of the accounting department and Yeltsin - to build a center. And the rest is the fault of the people? Curve logic. Well, since you are to blame, repent and pay. Or go turn yourself in to the police.
      1. +1
        12 October 2022 10: 38
        And why not, we are all paying for our apathy, for our inability to protest, the current lovers of the USSR did not take to the streets to defend him in the 90s, the communists did not take to the streets when they stole the election victory from Zyuganov, the liberals did not come out on the street when Putin decided to reshuffle and run for a third term, interpreting the constitution quite loosely. For example, the French are fighting in the blood with the state on very small things (in our understanding).
      2. 0
        12 October 2022 11: 03
        Quote: Galleon
        Well done, Vanya, blame everything on the people. The fact that there is no salary at the plant is the fault of the workers, not the director.

        And what, factory directors are appointed by workers? wink
        What they voted for is what they got. And there is no need to talk about fraud in the elections - since no one spoke out against them, then everyone is happy with everything.

        Democracy is not for you to eat lobio. © In a democracy, voters not only have the right to vote, but are also responsible for the actions of those who are elected. Since they didn’t protest the results, didn’t withdraw them, it means they support them.
        1. +4
          12 October 2022 12: 24
          Where do you see democracy? We have a periodic illusionist show, completely controlled at different levels, a joint operation of the special services and propaganda, but not elections. We don't have elections.
          1. 0
            12 October 2022 16: 03
            Quote: Galleon
            Where do you see democracy? We have a periodic illusionist show, completely controlled at different levels, a joint operation of the special services and propaganda, but not elections. We don't have elections.

            And this situation suits everyone too. Everyone sits and waits To make our way, like dew to the sun. Zapanuєm i mi, brother, at my side.
            Or what - someone thinks that we will be given? Good uncles will come and equip us with a free democratic society completely free of charge, that is, for free? And the people will come to everything ready and will panuvat?
            However...
            Walking is slimy
            On pebbles other
            So, that is close,
            We better keep silent.
            1. 0
              13 October 2022 13: 21
              Demagogy. All attempts to show the authorities that she was wrong were crushed instantly.
              And the situation when the edge and nothing to lose is not yet visible. The Russian people are always like that. He endured slavery for centuries.
              1. 0
                13 October 2022 15: 40
                Quote: Essex62
                All attempts to show the authorities that she was wrong were crushed instantly.

                What kind of opposition - such protests.
                In general, I think that all of our opposition is the best project of the authorities in terms of campaigning for their beloved and blurring the protest electorate. One eternal squabble between Yavlinsky and Nemtsov was worth something - with unification and immediate decisive disengagement before each election.
                Quote: Essex62
                The Russian people are always like that. He endured slavery for centuries.


                And now all our opps are a step forward, two steps back.
                1. 0
                  14 October 2022 07: 18
                  Yes, once in history, they threw off the slave owner and did not allow them to raise their heads for 70 years. But...
  12. +16
    12 October 2022 07: 03
    Army General Dmitry Bulgakov, whom Putin fired three days after the announcement of partial mobilization.

    1. 0
      12 October 2022 10: 28
      And who said that this position is protection from the FSB or the Prosecutor General, if there is anything for it. It's not evening yet, I hope .... well, if it's not fake
      1. -1
        12 October 2022 11: 24
        A member of the State Duma Committee on Defense commented on this fake: "He is an army general, they are not fired, but appointed to the position of inspectors. A position that means nothing. This position does not bear responsibility in itself." End of quote.
    2. +7
      12 October 2022 11: 05
      Hmmm ... paradise group in all its glory - a place of exile for high-ranking retirees.
    3. +3
      12 October 2022 14: 39
      Oh, not only did he end up in the Arbat Military District, but also in the Paradise Group of Forces. Taking into account those formed during the time of tireless work for the benefit - ballta, not a position ....
  13. +11
    12 October 2022 07: 05
    To regulate such issues, mankind has come up with only one mechanism. This is a balanced bunch: "Gingerbread Stick". Neither of these two elements individually works to its full potential. With gingerbread they have up there, everything is in order. Salaries, bonuses, generals' stripes, dachas, secretaries ... A heroic starfall, like on an August night. Whatever a general is, a hero is a must. But the second element is somehow ... Either soft, or it does not exist at all.
  14. +15
    12 October 2022 07: 06
    1. Well, if the results of closed hearings will roll heads. It is advisable to remove snow beyond the Arctic Circle. All.
    2. For some reason, it seemed to me that during the NWO, any military goods, as well as those needed in first-aid kits of military personnel, should have been removed from the shelves of online stores. Do you want to sell body armor? No problem. But - to the only buyer: the Ministry of Defense of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. And - at face value. If you don't like it - move on with your bulletproof vest, they will mobilize you - it will come in handy.
    3. It is high time to reform the rear services of the army. But, as I understand it, either the big ranks from the current system have something, or they are too lazy.
    1. +5
      12 October 2022 08: 30
      1. Well, if the results of closed hearings will roll heads.
      From the rearrangement of heads, little will change.
      1. +1
        12 October 2022 11: 19
        From a head swap, little will change
        From the permutation - of course. but from the replacement - will change. The new heads will know what happened to the old ones and will think ten times before even looking the wrong way.
  15. +9
    12 October 2022 07: 13
    Truly, a people's special operation. Well, of course, and honorable, but it should not be so.
    Here, here. "We want to help the Muscovite state, so we do not spare our estates, do not spare anything, sell yards, mortgage wives and children, beat with the brow of someone who would stand up for the true Orthodox faith and be our boss." (c) K. Minin
  16. -3
    12 October 2022 07: 23
    Quote: Gardamir
    in October 93 - allowed the execution
    You really don't know how many hundred people Yeltsin killed then?

    Nobody knows for sure. Why should I know?

    I only know that at that time the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation recognized Yeltsin's actions as illegal. That in March 1996, at the initiative of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the State Duma adopted a resolution on the illegitimacy of the Bialowieza treaty and the existence of a criminal offense in Yeltsin's actions. And that after that the Russian people recognized Yeltsin as the President of the Russian Federation.

    I don't know another such country and other such people. That's exactly it!

    Usually, if the people need something, they at least admit that no one is obliged to do it for them except for them. But here, apparently, this is not the case - "the good gentleman did not come and Uncle Zyu is to blame for everything" .....

    And one hundred million people could neither nominate leaders nor do anything. This is more reminiscent of a children's fairy tale "Cockroach" than the behavior of adults.
    1. +2
      12 October 2022 08: 59
      Quote: ivan2022
      I only know that then the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation recognized Yeltsin's actions as illegal. That in March 1996, at the initiative of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the State Duma adopted a resolution on the illegitimacy of the Bialowieza treaty and the existence of a criminal offense in Yeltsin's actions

      And in 96, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, led by Zyu, betrayed all its voters by giving victory to Yeltsin ...
    2. +2
      12 October 2022 11: 08
      Quote: ivan2022
      I only know that at that time the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation recognized Yeltsin's actions as illegal. That in March 1996, at the initiative of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the State Duma adopted a resolution on the illegitimacy of the Bialowieza treaty and the existence of a criminal offense in Yeltsin's actions. And that after that the Russian people recognized Yeltsin as the President of the Russian Federation.

      Pfft... like it's the first time.
      You still remember the referendum on March 17, 1991. And like everyone who voted for the preservation of the Union, already in December of the same year, they agreed with the division of the USSR by three popularly elected presidents.
  17. +9
    12 October 2022 07: 23
    should have been summoned to the hearings, so this is the Hero of Russia, Doctor of Economics, General of the Army Dmitry Bulgakov, whom Putin fired three days after the announcement of partial mobilization.
    He was not fired, but relieved of his post "in connection with the transfer to another job." They write that Dmitry Vitalyevich Bulgakov took the post of inspector general of the Office of Inspectors General of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, so it is possible and necessary
    summon to hearing
  18. +8
    12 October 2022 07: 31
    The sooner the era of "effective managers" ends, the better for the country. Gaidar nestlings! Chubais dived into the mud, and calmed down. It’s a pity Kvachkov didn’t succeed! That's what you can learn from non-brothers, so it's riding in the trash cans of bureaucrats of any level, followed by resignation, of course.
  19. +4
    12 October 2022 07: 37
    Yes, Putin should be called to the "carpet". Let at least once in 20 years from is considered.
  20. +9
    12 October 2022 07: 43
    It is not necessary to create commissions, but to open criminal cases and put them in jail, since the death penalty has been abolished.
    1. +4
      12 October 2022 08: 47
      No, first you need to return the current death penalty to the Criminal Code and the Constitution, then everything else, such as criminal cases, etc.
  21. Eug
    +1
    12 October 2022 07: 51
    And what, in the state reserve there are no turnstiles (perhaps due to the limited shelf life) or decompression needles? Or Mrs. and mob. Are reserves declared harmful to the national economy? Still, from the point of view of the liberal economy, this is just a material liability. Perhaps there was a hope that the chain would be like this - private manufacturers of the same turnstiles would sharply increase their production in response even with a real (and not promised, albeit formalized by contract) increase in purchases and corresponding (in the future) funding? But the over-bureaucratized system of state financing did not work in this case. That is why businessmen and governors, public organizations and foundations entered the arena - those who can respond much more flexibly to the needs that have arisen. The same thing happened in Ukraine 8 years ago - the oligarchs, the leadership of the regional and district levels, volunteers were at the helm of the supply of ZSU, it was they who, not limited by the bureaucracy, established supply channels. The same applies to "folk art" for the protection of armored and other equipment ...
  22. +10
    12 October 2022 07: 57
    Now the thief will look for himself where, what and when he stole. A straight-forward anecdote that the main thing during the investigation is not to find yourself. Well, according to the results of the investigation, it is quite possible to award a second star
  23. 0
    12 October 2022 08: 03
    Any organism is structured like this, a human body (if you don’t think the brain will work out, if you don’t lift weights, the muscles decrease in volume), and the state body, if there is no mobilization, then responsible people lose their skills, machine guns rust, something is missing. But they stole it, it’s like that for everyone ..., When the British troops were withdrawn from Europe in 90, they lost 1,5 billion pounds and didn’t put anyone in prison, the Germans transported alcohol in airplane tanks, although on the other hand their Barbarossa plan is being studied in the military academies in all countries of the world as the best organized.
    1. +4
      12 October 2022 08: 52
      Quote: alexey_444
      Any organism is structured like this, a human body (if you don’t think the brain will work out, if you don’t lift weights, the muscles decrease in volume), and the state body, if there is no mobilization, then responsible people lose their skills, machine guns rust, something is missing. And they stole it, so it's like that for everyone

      God bless! Reassured! And then I started to envy - suddenly it’s good somewhere, they don’t steal !? General second gold - and that's it! And what is not enough for the army - the people will buy it.
      1. -4
        12 October 2022 11: 48
        The one who does nothing is not mistaken, haste is the mother of mistakes
        1. +3
          12 October 2022 16: 32
          Quote: alexey_444
          The one who does nothing is not mistaken, haste is the mother of mistakes

          Maybe it's all about the abundance of sayings we have? On any vile are. Exculpatory.
          1. 0
            13 October 2022 08: 09
            No, there’s just life, but there are Wishlist, I didn’t just give an example about the West, with their democracy, control bodies, a system of checks and balances, when a gas station was built in Afghanistan for 40 lam dollars. I would like that they didn’t steal and our soldiers were fully equipped, but there are no countries in life where everything is fine, there are jambs everywhere.
  24. +4
    12 October 2022 08: 12
    And what did you want?
    If the authorities wanted a better life for the people, they would have built Communism (at least partial, as in China), with new technologies it would be easier ...
    And since they built imperialism, it means they want money. And money doesn't smell.

    It is characteristic that there are Articles on VO about theft and embezzlement, but criminal cases .... are not heard.
    the news comes from the side - they are simply transplanted into other chairs.

    As they say - there were 2 ways. But the prime minister of Singapore chose the honest one ... there was the path of the PZhV (remember this one?) ...
    1. -3
      12 October 2022 08: 43
      A shovel in your hands and for the construction of communism.
    2. -1
      12 October 2022 09: 36
      Quote: Max1995
      But the honest one chose the prime minister of Singapore

      How did you get on with Singapore ....
      ALL(!!!) Singapore - 1/4 of the area and 1/3 of the population of Moscow ..
      And 40 policemen - against 000 in Moscow ..
      Why not be honest - when every step is watched by a hundred hungry mouths ...
    3. 0
      12 October 2022 11: 21
      Quote: Max1995
      As they say - there were 2 ways. But the prime minister of Singapore chose the honest one ... there was the path of the PZhV (remember this one?) ...

      Yes, all Internet fighters for justice will be the first to howl if the country is allowed to follow the path of Singapore. smile
      The way of Singapore is a wheelbarrow in the teeth, and to work. No forum discussions, no individual freedoms, no even the slightest criticism of the authorities - arbeiten. One people, one state, one leader. What he said, everyone will do. I don't like it - a suitcase, a train station, a border. If you don't want to leave, community service is waiting for you.
      Oh yeah, and be ready to hit the bullpen at any time. For up to a month. Without decisions or any grounds at all - except for the decision of the investigator, who is conducting the case of giving even a penny bribe by your second cousin, under which you fell automatically as a family member traitor briber. Or the same thing - but on the denunciation of friends.
      To fight corruption, start by jailing three of your friends. You know exactly why, and they know why.
      © Lee Kuan Yu
  25. +10
    12 October 2022 08: 26
    Putin, through his paid propagandists, created the ideology of his rule in the style of "The Tsar is good, these are bad boyars." But it cannot be that an honest leader, but recruited one thieves into his subordinates, it cannot be such that the head of the State is a patriot, but recruited only enemies of the country and the people into his subordinates.
  26. +3
    12 October 2022 08: 41
    Quote: Sergey Samkov
    It has been said more than once - it is necessary to knock out the motivation for enrichment from under an official of any level .. It is necessary that the opening of this or that business does not depend on him, but on the LAW .. To knock the ground out from under the feet of those who want to give a bribe ... To hell with a moratorium on death penalty! It is necessary to eradicate the desire - to earn at any cost ..

    Why are you writing such seditious things? It is in the enemy west that officials answer to the people. Yes, there are enough of their own jambs, but at the philistine level this system works quite well - if the mayor of the city does not fulfill his duties, he is unlikely to be elected again, and if he openly boasts of exorbitant wealth, he will be asked questions.
    And our official is responsible only to the official who appointed him from above, and his main task is to report to the top that everything is fine, and do not forget to unfasten. Police cars are worth more than their 10-year earnings, mansions with golden gates are open, and, like, no one sees.
    In China, they are shot for bribes, what's the point. Why not, for a start, abolish prosecution for bribe-givers upon confession? They extort you - gave it, then wrote a statement - cooperated with the investigation, well done, not guilty.
  27. +7
    12 October 2022 08: 42
    Deputy Defense Ministers Aleksey Krivoruchenko and Mikhail Mizintsev will be present as guests.

    And why is there no name Shoigu here, after all, it is he who is the main responsible person, because it is through the fault of his subordinates that a mess is thriving in the Moscow Region. Or can he only organize short-term holidays and improve woodcarving? All this is sad.
  28. +6
    12 October 2022 08: 48
    “Each state of emergency has a full name and position”

    But for some reason, in our time, these full names are not found, and if they are found, then at best they will be dismissed, or they may not be sent, they will find another chair, because "they don't leave their own." And there is no punishment for action or inaction for the inflicted damage, for irresponsibility with the confiscation of the inflicted damage ...
    Where were the same deputies from the profile committees, why didn’t they control, where were the different regulatory bodies, where was the government - they are all endowed with appropriate powers and receive a lot of budget money for their rights ?! Or are all these bodies just to cut budget money and speak beautiful words from the stands and TV screens?!
  29. +6
    12 October 2022 08: 56
    All problems sit at the top and have good money.
    Only for some reason these "Augean stables" are not touched by the authorities. Apparently in the share.
    1. +4
      12 October 2022 09: 25
      All the same, footcloths in boots, especially in the cold season, are probably better than socks. Rewinded and further forward. Changed once a week. The smell in the barracks was still the same. And there was almost nothing to steal in this part.
  30. +6
    12 October 2022 09: 12
    “Where is the money, Zin?”: about the fate of budget billions for the rear
    . What is most interesting, these questions are being asked, already, from all sides! And what will be the answers?
  31. +2
    12 October 2022 09: 26
    They always stole in the Russian army. They stole on an industrial scale. The stolen goods were often sold to enemies - for stamps, yens, even for dirhams, especially if the money was a bonus with the promise of a well-fed and peaceful life in winning country. And at all times there was a good tradition - despite the fact that petty thieves were impaled, and hung, and humanely shot - big thieves ALWAYS FORGIVED. That is why theft in the Russian army is ineradicable. Well, now let's move on to one of the main "damned" questions - WHAT TO DO? I will express my opinion based on a long-term analysis of the contingent - I am a medical psychologist, but I also had to work with a thieving contingent - we are sorely lacking forensic psychologists. So - the most frame psychological portrait of a warehouse thief (not a burglar, not a bear cub - these are carefully prepared) - three main qualities: cowardice, greed, impulsiveness. The complex of these qualities forms a psychological imperative - everything that such a thief considers HIS PERSONAL in the warehouse. As a rule, crimes are not planned and traces are not swept up, which greatly facilitates the work of investigators. Based on this, you need to take the next action, which will finally pass through the contingent. With a single chorus, arrest ALL suspected of thefts, since they split at once, then release those mistakenly arrested with apologies. But the guilty should be dealt with like this - the upper three steps of the thieves' pyramid should be quietly and casually shot, and property confiscated. This will cause panic on the lower steps, since there will be no one to intercede for petty accomplices. All trifles should be imprisoned for maximum periods in the most terrible penitentiary institutions, of course, also with confiscation. And bring all the information to the public in full. What will it give? Small fry, who, if something happens, will have to suffer unbearably, it will be cheaper to hand over their bosses-thieves, since the value of the boss in case of capture will be equal to zero. That is, the dream of all lawyers will come true - a conflict will be formed between the organizers and performers, the stake in which is life. And since the entire vertical in this process is UNDERSTANDING, this will definitely work. The leadership would have the political will.
  32. +7
    12 October 2022 09: 58
    No one will ask anything from anyone. They will make noise, groan, puff up rosy cheeks and quietly merge.
    Such a system throughout the country in all areas ...
    And MO is no exception.
  33. +2
    12 October 2022 10: 12

    Let's imagine a terrible situation - on September 21, President Putin would announce not a partial mobilization, but a complete one. Not even full, but conditionally partial, when not 300 thousand, but 1-2 million reservists will be called up to the army.

    And why did the author decide that this is not happening now?

    Deputy Defense Ministers Aleksey Krivoruchenko and Mikhail Mizintsev will be present as guests.

    Will Bulgakov go as a witness?
    Nothing changes, absolutely.
    Someone here is correct. The system would rather be defeated in Ukraine than start radical changes within itself. And all because the king is naked ...
  34. +6
    12 October 2022 10: 33
    There is a chance that from a society of consumers we will transform our

    And what about the society of oligarchs and the rich?..
    They take off the buns, and society will fight, and also for their own
  35. +5
    12 October 2022 10: 39
    The idea of ​​the responsibility of the authorities is recognized by the court of the Russian Federation as extremism. People are sitting.
  36. +4
    12 October 2022 10: 51
    I studied this issue - they practically did not steal under Stalin (you can say, on the contrary, they carried their own) and everything, respectively, must be chosen from 2, in our country it is not possible otherwise.
  37. +1
    12 October 2022 10: 57
    the temple was built, it is not clear what form for parades was sewn, and then - according to the list
  38. +2
    12 October 2022 11: 32
    "... - First of all," he answered solemnly and solemnly, "I will order the horses to be mobilized, then I will shoot the mayor. I will take a dozen hostages from the bourgeoisie and send them to prison until the end of the civil war. Then I will make a general search in the city and prohibit free trade. That's enough for the first day, and tomorrow I'll come up with something else...."

    All the same, the brilliant alcoholic Hasek was right. In our country it is necessary only so probably.
  39. +5
    12 October 2022 11: 47
    And why does no one have a question about "second-class people"?
    In Moscow, a payment of 200 rubles was announced for those mobilized, and 000 rubles in the Crimea. ... It is clear where there is more money! But how should people look at it? Or is it a direct transfer of Moscow additional payments to pensions?
    I personally consider in this the division of little men into varieties and spitting personally at everyone who does not live in "non-rubber"!
  40. +3
    12 October 2022 11: 56
    Silly questions - where are the billions. Everyone knows, but they continue to search hard. Hypocrisy of the highest order. For this, it is necessary to shoot, and not ask questions.
  41. +2
    12 October 2022 12: 12
    In everything you need to look for the positive side. Even in such a blatant situation with the provision of reservists with everything necessary for the front. See how society responded to the calls of the reservists.

    Definitely positive? Haven't more people seen what kind of shit is going on in strategic directions and under whose strict guidance.
    Businessmen in Russia have always been disliked, especially the deep people. Some of them, indeed, should say a special "thank you". This is a considerable cohort of those watching the events, like a football match, on the emotions of which you can also profit.

    But exactly ordinary businessmen (some of whom were also mobilized) now have to cover the asses of "businessmen" - corrupt officials from MORF?
    Probably, General Alexei Krivoruchenko, who is responsible for the military-technical support of the army in the Russian Defense Ministry, should pay attention to this precedent.

    Or maybe the Supreme should pay attention to this, where the country is slipping?
  42. +2
    12 October 2022 12: 17
    Yeah ... they don’t have enough military gear. But to all contract soldiers and officers dismissed from their service, this stuff was stuffed in bags upon dismissal, instead of monetary compensation, at the expense of property lost during the service ... and shoes, and camouflage, and sleeping bags, and shorts with towels.
    Nafig it is not needed in civilian life. But Avito and Yula are crammed with this military gear, and not the warehouses of the Moscow Region.
  43. +4
    12 October 2022 13: 22
    It is impossible to blame all businessmen indiscriminately

    Oh, what an interesting homeland we have, the government is not to blame, business is not to blame, and in general you were not asked to be born!
    But since you were born, then go to war for power and business at your own expense, and remember they don’t owe you anything ....
  44. +3
    12 October 2022 13: 39
    I try not to read posts like this. Infuriates to the loss of pulse - age, s. Then I didn’t sleep for half the night, before my eyes there was a wall with nits and a machine gun in my hands ...
  45. 0
    12 October 2022 13: 48
    The problem is not theft, but the legal framework. When the conscripts began to serve for one year, a big butt happened with the refreshment of EVERYTHING, because. the terms of storage and operation of the property have not changed, i.e. to give out property (to carry out refreshment) was simply not for anyone (a soldier from the military registration and enlistment office comes to the unit already dressed, shod). Plus, many (not all) warehouses were a pitiful sight, as a result of damage to military property and equipment.
  46. +3
    12 October 2022 13: 52
    "Don't wreck the boat." How can you suspect at a time like this when you need to believe?
  47. +3
    12 October 2022 14: 00
    In a word, Superpower. As we used to say not so long ago - with pathos and aspiration.
    The superpower has nothing to really put on 1% of the mobilized? good
    This whole situation seemed to open even the most dense people's eyes and form a number of interesting questions for them, but for now these questions revolve around the lamp like nocturnal insects, touching the essence only from the very edges.

    I think a lot of interesting things will still pop up along the way ..
  48. +4
    12 October 2022 16: 00
    While the rusted mechanisms are working, resources, uniforms and weapons are found, the enemy will probably pass through Red Square in parade columns.

    Uh-uh ... Here it is, Mikhalych!
    Now let the Prosecutor General's Office figure out who is the saboteur...
    While Edro has a majority in the State Duma, cancel the thieves' privatization, appoint executive directors, create GKOs and those structures that destroy cowards, traitors and saboteurs on the spot ...
    And in the USSR Armed Forces, specific dates for mobilization and the number of those standing under arms by this date were indicated.
  49. AB
    0
    12 October 2022 16: 06
    Well, of course, and honorable, but it should not be so.

    The perfect ending to this article.

    Relatives and acquaintances talk about organizations that, to the best of their ability and finances, themselves equip their employees, whom they have mobilized.
  50. 0
    12 October 2022 16: 39
    Judging by what is happening now, there is really nothing even for one percent of the mobilization reserve. While the rusted mechanisms are working, resources, uniforms and weapons are found, the enemy will probably pass through Red Square in parade columns.


    so that the same enemy does not pass in columns along Red Square, the army must be professional contract and sufficient in size for a simultaneous war with a potential enemy (NATO) and protecting our own borders. And this is a minimum increase in the constant strength of the army twice. We now have an army of two million (1 million military personnel + 1 million exorbitantly bloated civilian personnel) and there should be 2 million military personnel + 500 thousand civilian personnel, because it’s not good to keep an incompetent million civilians from the budget (although if you count with conscripts, then almost 1 million 300 thousand).
    The army should become exclusively professional and self-sufficient, and not like now our professional military, of which less than 200 thousand are involved "on the ground" in the NWO, have to be collected throughout Russia for equipment and equipment.
    It seems that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation was engaged exclusively in cutting the state dough allocated for providing rear services, simultaneously inflating the number of civilian personnel and selling, removing from the balance the non-core property that they so gassed (the very military camps that were intended to accommodate and train those mobilized in the event of a war of the past).

    Ask why the past?

    yes, because in modern warfare, an enemy equal to you in strength or, in the worst case, will not leave you any time, infrastructure or resources to carry out this mobilization. At the same time, we also omit the most important aspect that those whom you mobilize will be many times less combat-ready than professional enemy soldiers.
    The fact that we are now able to mobilize is the merit of Comrade Stalin, who left us nuclear weapons, because of which the enemies do not dare to drive us into ruins like Yugoslavia.

    Now we can safely state the fact that by the beginning of the NMD, Russia to this day cannot even fully provide its military group in Ukraine with everything it needs (except for weapons and fuel).
  51. +1
    12 October 2022 17: 02
    Very polite and incredibly tactful: Spanish shame!
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  53. +5
    12 October 2022 17: 52
    Where's the money ? Everything has already been stolen before us.
    The most difficult thing for the president now is:
  54. +2
    12 October 2022 17: 56
    Quote from Uncle Lee
    So ask the perpetrators of this in full!

    A good last phrase is “good, of course, and honorable... I would continue and SHAMEFUL!!!
    It is not the people, not the governors, not the business that should collect things and money for the military. The armies in the process of "rearmament" were given money --- ECHELONS! Every year they assured that everything was according to plan. There the deadlines should be cosmic, and confiscation of property throughout the entire family! Well, it’s not like that with us, they will remove someone (retire or transfer them to an inconspicuous place. Well, they will find a small fry - show it to the press, and cover up the people’s eyes! request hi
  55. +1
    12 October 2022 18: 21
    “Any quartermaster can be safely hanged without trial after a year of service.” A.S. Suvorov.
  56. +2
    12 October 2022 18: 42
    Not all, but definitely those who were responsible. If there is no death penalty in Russia, then there are other punishments, but they must be punished. Let's see, the right leader should react like Stalin, of course, taking into account the new era. Young people defend their homeland with weapons in their hands, and the oligarchs profit from their deaths. Russia is a complex country. am
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    1. -1
      12 October 2022 19: 12
      Peck on your tongue
      forgive me, Lord.
  58. -1
    12 October 2022 19: 53
    This is a sensation. The State Duma has finally begun to fulfill the rights given by the Constitution of the Russian Federation and somehow hesitantly take upon itself to respond to failures in the economy and security of the country. This is cool. The State Duma must fight with anger for our country and people. Otherwise, they are worse than enemies, having the right to silently look at the mess in the country.
  59. 0
    12 October 2022 20: 44
    Alexey Krivoruchenko

    Krivoruchko is his last name, not Krivoruchenko.
  60. 0
    12 October 2022 20: 48
    for 300 thousand reservists? This, let us remind you, is a little more than one percent of the potential number of mobilized.

    Sorry, but where did you get the idea that 300 thousand is one percent of the maximum? Where does this data come from?
  61. +1
    12 October 2022 21: 26
    The replacement of the main logistics officer, a highly educated (such a rare coincidence!!!!) - Doctor of Sciences, was done as if there was a desire to hide loose ends in the water. One ALREADY does not answer, the one who took his place STILL does not answer. I look forward to the complete oblivion of the dark past in the name of a bright future.
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  63. 0
    12 October 2022 23: 20
    It is unlikely that suppliers and businessmen can be blamed for the current situation. Most likely due to the secrecy regime, both were not properly informed about the scale of future supplies and needs, and have now become extreme. Supply is an inertial matter.
  64. 0
    13 October 2022 11: 35
    To whom is war, to whom mother is dear. All their lives, hucksters profited from the war. But people are also VERY rare. I bought a balaclava and a first aid kit, I remember before the rush, the first aid kit cost 1300, the owner-seller asked: to join the army? - Yes. - then 1000 rubles. balaclava was 300 rub. , sold for 200. But this case is rather an exception.
  65. for
    0
    13 October 2022 20: 48
    As I understand it, from time immemorial it has been the custom in Russia that until the people take up the pitchforks against the enemy, victory will not be seen.
  66. amr
    0
    16 October 2022 19: 55
    First, why did they ask so little, since there were not enough shoes and clothes for 300 reservists? This, we recall, is slightly more than one percent of the potential number of mobilized.

    is this a complete mobilization of 30 million??? or is this a mistake?