Former CIA director: If Russia uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine, the US and NATO could hit Russian troops on Ukrainian territory

Retired US Army General David Petraeus, former head of the CIA, said that US troops and NATO allies "could hit Russian troops in Ukraine." According to Petraeus, such a scenario could be considered “in the event that Russia might use nuclear weapons there.” weapons».

According to a representative of a retired US general, which he expressed in an interview with ABC, the US "in such a situation could lead the collective efforts of NATO."

Petraeus:

Then we and our allies could destroy all Russian troops that we can identify on the battlefield on Ukrainian territory, as well as on the Black Sea and in the Crimea.

Apparently, in his statement, the ex-CIA director pronounces the word "Crimea" separately from the phrase "Ukrainian territories." This is, perhaps, the only grain of common sense from Mr. Petraeus, who probably forgets that in the event of a strike against Russian troops, the United States and NATO become direct participants in hostilities, which automatically means the possibility of striking American (NATO) troops as well. troops.

At the same time, Petraeus unambiguously says that if Russia “uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine, then this will not trigger Article 5 of the NATO Charter.” David Petraeus:

That is why we need a consolidated decision against the Russian army in the event of such a development of events. We will need to interpret the spread of radiation to NATO countries in the event of a Russian nuclear strike on Ukraine as an attack on the North Atlantic Alliance.

According to Petraeus, "neither mobilization, nor even the use of tactical nuclear weapons will change anything for Russia." Only the ex-director of the CIA, escalating the situation, for some reason does not say anything about the fact that in this case, the threats emanating from him will not change anything for the United States and NATO if it comes to their direct conflict with Russia.

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[Hitriy Zhuk]

Is a tourist with a warhead in a backpack enough to wake/blow up Yellowstone?
At the very least, New York is squeezed somewhere.

[NDR-791]

Quote: Hitriy Zhuk

Is a tourist with a warhead in a backpack enough to wake/blow up Yellowstone?

I don't think it's enough. But a concentrated strike from the Strategic Missile Forces on him will never be beaten off, there simply won’t be enough strength and time. And there is nothing to chase individual characters and bases with each missile. All in the caldera and ulds.

[3danimal]

But a concentrated strike from the Strategic Missile Forces on him will never be beaten off, there simply won’t be enough strength and time.

As soon as the missiles fired by the Strategic Missile Forces have time to take off, a similar “answer” will fly in our direction, isn’t it?
Plus, the largest SSBN base on the Kola Peninsula (about 35% of the entire nuclear arsenal) can now be quickly (tens of seconds) destroyed from the territory of Finland.
Also, part of the missiles will be intercepted by the GBMD strategic missile defense system (range up to 5-7 thousand km), tactical THAAD (200 km) and naval AEGIS SM-3 (500 km).
In our country, only Moscow is covered by an analogue of THAAD (in range), and then the A-235 has atomic warheads, which will create great interference with the operation of the radar during explosions.
Bad, suicidal idea.
It is better to defeat conventionally, on the battlefield, breaking the will of the pampered American GIs in contact battles.

[Alex777]

Quote: 3danimal

As soon as the missiles fired by the Strategic Missile Forces have time to take off, a similar “answer” will fly in our direction, isn’t it?

So.

Quote: 3danimal

Plus, the largest SSBN base on the Kola Peninsula (about 35% of the entire nuclear arsenal) can now be quickly (tens of seconds) destroyed from the territory of Finland.

Not this way.

Quote: 3danimal

Also, part of the missiles will be intercepted by the GBMD strategic missile defense system (range up to 5-7 thousand km), tactical THAAD (200 km) and naval AEGIS SM-3 (500 km).

Not certainly in that way.

Quote: 3danimal

In our country, only Moscow is covered by an analogue of THAAD (in range), and then the A-235 has atomic warheads, which will create great interference with the operation of the radar during explosions.

Not this way.

Quote: 3danimal

Bad, suicidal idea.

So.

Quote: 3danimal

It is better to defeat conventionally, on the battlefield, breaking the will of the pampered American GIs in contact battles.

So it is.
But GIs are not as pampered as some of ours, and they are not rushing to contact us in contact battles - the Armed Forces of Ukraine are sent to them ...

[3danimal]

and they don’t rush to us in contact battles - the Armed Forces of Ukraine are sent to them

So we immediately threatened them with the use of nuclear weapons if they interfered with the troops, but in vain.
After the very first battles of amers with ours and their subsequent drape, NATO would have crumbled.

[skeptic]

Quote: 3danimal

Plus, the largest SSBN base on the Kola Peninsula (about 35% of the entire nuclear arsenal) can now be quickly (tens of seconds) destroyed from the territory of Finland.

An interesting note. Do you seriously think that starting a nuclear war, at this base, will anyone remain, except for families and technical services?
And as for the conventional types of war, with all of NATO, Russia, stupidly, will not have enough people. And this says only one thing, that a nuclear war will begin from a depopulated territory. No chance of recovery.
For starters, you need to stop losing already occupied territories in battles with Ukrainians.

[3danimal]

For starters, you need to stop losing already occupied territories in battles with Ukrainians.

And what is the problem?
That our military is not ready to fight to the death while holding the cities they have recently taken?
In the worthlessness of command?
Perhaps it is worth trying to appoint Kadyrov to command the front?

with everything NATO, Russia, stupid people do not have enough

You forget that they are weaklings. They themselves will not be able to, in the first encounter they will break.
The Ukrainians are fighting (also Slavs, by the way), and the Americans with other developed countries only give weapons.

Do you seriously think that starting a nuclear war, at this base, will anyone remain, except for families and technical services?

There is another problem: the superiority of the United States and allies in the number of modern MAPLs (3/21 Russia / USA at the moment), which will be in the patrol areas of our SSBNs during a threatening period.

[no better place for]

They also thought about VSU, they would scatter or they would surrender in batches

[skeptic]

Quote: 3danimal

You forget that they are weaklings. They themselves will not be able to, in the first encounter they will break.
Ukrainians are fighting (also Slavs, by the way),

Oh, those hat throwers... Near Kharkov, by communication, ukrov was almost inaudible... The result? We can say that NATO, too, has not yet begun to fight. Do not undertake to "share the skin of an unkilled bear." Himself, then he may be ashamed of his superficiality.

[Lom_l]

The result - for three weeks they could not take Liman, which was defended by BARS and the militia. The fact that the guardsmen gave slippers is, of course, a shame that can only be washed away with blood. As an example of normal defense and training, Kherson. They didn’t give me slippers, but they endured it, and as a result, the Armed Forces of Ukraine washed themselves with blood.

[3danimal]

As far as we know, in Kherson the largest group is ours.

[skeptic]

Quote from Lom_l

BARS and militia.

For reference; BARS is an abbreviation for structure (peacetime reservists). What is the militia, it makes no sense to explain. In short, "butter oil". Yes, the guys are heroes, but where are the professionals? As always, a simple militia holds, "professional guardsmen" run and throw the most modern equipment and ammunition. That's the whole point of a "professional" army, and "ensigns", in generals' stripes.
Is there a way out? At the very least, shake up all the strippers. Those who have combat, positive experience - leave. The rest, for retraining, through the front line, with a significant reduction, until confirmed by success, in the conduct of hostilities, taking into account the minimization of personnel losses.

[yuriy55]

Quote: skeptic

Himself, then he may be ashamed of his superficiality.

We shouldn't be ashamed. Shame on those who threatened to strike at the decision-making centers when crossing the red lines, and when this happened, decided that no one in the country understood military strategy.

[ABC-schutze]

No not like this...

For, from the context of Petraeus's "statements" and your "counterpart's" comment, it is clear that we are talking about a return gift of strategic nuclear forces to the Russian Armed Forces. And their component is the Strategic Missile Forces ...

As for the "statements" of the former commander of the US forces in Iraq, then:

- on the territory of the former united Ukraine, engulfed in civil war for 8 years, after the coup d'état, there is by definition no "legitimate power" ... And the Russian Armed Forces, in the LEGAL interests of ensuring their military security, are conducting an NVO to eliminate the military threat ALREADY created by the United States and NATO, even BEFORE THE STARTING OF ...

The United States, NATO, the EU and their "Kyiv tool" refused to remove this threat through diplomacy - on the path of negotiations (Minsk agreements). Thus, BREACHING YOUR OBLIGATIONS under the signed agreements...

Ah, that means...

The US and NATO inflicting some "nuclear strikes" (in any "format") on the Russian army (and the army, this is part of the state), wherever the Russian army is, AUTOMATICALLY and INEVITABLY, will lead to a nuclear strike on the territory of the American STATE and its territories his NATO-vskih "tobacco". Moreover, it is not at all necessary, for "military" facilities ...

For the targets for strikes (and plans for such) will be determined exclusively by the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces. And without any "preliminary discussions" with all sorts of "Petreuses" ...

And the territory of the United States and NATO countries, for such strikes, in the context of the consequences, is somehow more vulnerable than the Russian one ...

So, "nuclear exchange" will be mutually painful, but, in the context of the consequences, far from being "equivalent". And by no means "in favor" of the United States and NATO ...

So, if the Russian Armed Forces will have something to deter the use of non-strategic nuclear weapons on the territory of the former united Ukraine (at least in the foreseeable future), it will not be the "statements of the Petraeus", "trasses" and other "lambrechts". And first of all, the unwillingness to litter with radioactive waste those territories that in the foreseeable future will be occupied by the Armed Forces of Russia and allies. And then they will become part of Russia...

Everything is clear here...

BUT, if the USA and NATO, Ruchonkamikiev's Natsiks "blurt out" there, at least with a "dirty bomb" (such as an attack on a nuclear power plant, with the destruction of reactor blocks and storage facilities and the release of radioactive substances into space), then Russia's response, in this case , may already be quite "nuclear". And it's not "dirty" at all.

[3danimal]

at least a "dirty bomb" (such as an attack on a nuclear power plant, with the destruction of reactor blocks and storage facilities and the release of radioactive substances into space)

What prevented you from doing this for the last 30 years?
Do you think your opponents are idiots? What do they care about themselves?

nuclear strike on the territory of the US STATE and its territories of its NATO "tobacco". Moreover, it is not at all necessary, for "military" facilities ...

You overdo it with pathos.
What about a retaliatory strike on our territory? How many tens of millions of Russians will become its victims?
Suicide.
Therefore, it should be limited to conventional solutions.

[skeptic]

Quote: 3danimal

Therefore, it should be limited to conventional solutions.

Nuclear war? tasteless ... And the balance of power in Europe and the Anglo-Saxon world, against ... not the USSR, but against Russia, with a significantly defeated industry (the forces of the West and local godfathers), doesn’t it seem to you a slow suicide? The difference is that a conventional war would significantly reduce the male gender of Russia - it would eventually lead to a nuclear war anyway, but without the possibility of a Russian revival. Now it is necessary to issue an ultimatum to the West (as long as the men are alive) - either they stop their supplies, or Russia perceives their actions and threats as an immediate danger to the very existence of Russia. The Russian Federation reserves for itself, retaliatory actions from all available weapons, including the latest developments. Naturally, it is necessary to set deadlines, and as Putin said: "If a fight is inevitable, you need to beat the strongest one first."

[3danimal]

without the possibility of the revival of Russia

That is, do you think that a nuclear war will not reduce the population of Russia and will there be talk of some kind of revival? It is in this scenario that there will be only a dozen or two million surviving Russians, rapidly dying of hunger and disease in the world of "Mad Max" (but without cars).
Important: with a high probability, the war will not end on exchanges of blows.
Almost the entire US fleet will survive. ILC, they will try to distribute the army among different bases, ships.
All this will still be able to fight for some time. What will stop the same carrier-based aircraft from continuing to deliver nuclear strikes?
Instead of using quotes from the president (parents at the university were forced to insert Dear Leonid Ilyich on the case and without different wisdom), it is better to understand the existing alignment of forces based on open sources - for the sake of completeness

[skeptic]

Quote: 3danimal

That is, do you think that a nuclear war will not reduce the population of Russia and will there be talk of some kind of revival?

The difference is that a conventional war will significantly reduce the male sex in Russia ...

Do you believe that in an ordinary war, against the European peoples, the Anglo-Saxon world from all continents, with many times the number of the Armed Forces, Air Force, Navy, in many ways and in quality, Russia has a chance to survive ??? When Russia, no longer able to fight conventionally, will be forced to use nuclear weapons. From return fire, many civilians will die, but in the absence of previously knocked out men, mobilized earlier, from all the nooks and crannies of Russia, there will be no one to revive.
With a preventive, nuclear strike, there remains a chance to save much more entire territories with a population, which, with all the horror of such a decision, will allow us to save Russia as a state.

[3danimal]

When Russia, no longer able to fight conventionally,

If the preservation of the peoples of Russia is the goal, then being on the verge, you need to negotiate.
In this case, it may be necessary to permanently abandon the idea of ​​restoring the Russian Empire within its former borders (or more).
An example is Japan. They forgot about the glorious samurai when they kept the whole region at bay
If the goal is war at any cost, and people are just fuel for its continuation, then you can not bother about anything.

With a preventive, nuclear strike, there remains a chance to save much more entire territories with a population

How so?
How it will be: the US nuclear warning systems will work (and Russian missiles fly for 20-30 minutes), within 10 minutes the launches of the mine "Minutemen" will start. In parallel, they will try to cover Russian SSBNs in the Murmansk region at bases (using their SSBNs located nearby and OTR from Finland, which is only 200 km away) and in patrol areas (using significant superiority in modern multi-purpose nuclear submarines - 3/21).
Some of our missiles will be shot down by the GBMD strategic missile defense system (range 5-7 thousand km), capable of intercepting ICBMs in the middle flight segment to breeding warheads.
Another part of the short-range missile defense systems THAAD (200 km) and sea AEGIS SM-3 500 km, for targets that will fly over water). I mean, up to 60-70% of our missiles can be disabled one way or another.
5-10% won't take off/fly the wrong way at all (similar assumption for both sides).
As a result, they will suffer greatly, but we will have a complete kirdyk.
There is missile defense only over Moscow, with a range of 200+ km and nuclear warheads in interceptor missiles (their explosions will create strong interference, reducing the system's effectiveness). It will simply be overloaded with the number of combat units that have arrived.
Other cities are not covered at all.
The vast majority of the population lives in cities with a million population and near them.

Something like this..
Therefore, such a scenario should be avoided at all costs.

[3danimal]

With a preventive, nuclear strike, there remains a chance to save much more entire territories with a population

Most of the US SSBNs will survive, since we will not be able to pull off a feint with them like an attack from Finnish territory (unless we agree with Canada?), And in patrol areas in the ocean they will be covered by the most powerful fleet in the world.

[skeptic]

Quote: 3danimal

If the preservation of the peoples of Russia is the goal, then being on the verge, you need to negotiate.
In this case, it may be necessary to permanently abandon the idea of ​​restoring the Russian Empire within its former borders (or more).

Holy innocence. The West does not need Russia, in any other form, except for small scattered reservations, for maintenance, of certain deposits. But most likely - the fate of the Indians, for the Slavs, will be too "civilized". In order to avoid potential riots, a total genocide will await us, under the hooting of the West.
ps It was after the complete disregard for the proposals to agree that the NWO began.
(Yes, I'm sorry, but after the cited, then your TsIPSOshnye demagoguery, I didn’t read it, because it makes no sense).

[3danimal]

Holy innocence. The West, Russia is not needed, in any other form

Basis for such assertions? Works by Prokhanov, Dugin?

But most likely - the fate of the Indians, for the Slavs, will turn out to be too "civilized"

Finish with conspiracy theories.

It was after a complete disregard for proposals to agree

Served as an ultimatum?
When you want to negotiate, communicate in a slightly different way.
IMHO, this was not discussed, but rather to create another precedent for the war (we offered them and they refused), against the backdrop of imperial arrogance and erroneous hopes for a super-powerful army (“and let them think three hundred times whether we will stop at the Polish border! ").
Now such phrases clearly demonstrate .. separation from reality.

Your TsIPSOshnye demagoguery

What is this acronym (seriously)?
A similar picture of a hypothetical nuclear conflict arose based on a comparison of data in open sources.
Google: GBMD, THAAD, AEGIS SM-3 (the dangers of which were articles back in 2007), A-235, Russian Navy, US Navy, etc.
Plus, there were a number of articles here, where the authors repeatedly spoke about the poor preparation of the fleet and the lack of the number of multi-purpose nuclear submarines, which results in a threat to lose "strategists".

[ABC-schutze]

A strange question for the VO portal ...

Firstly, it did not "interfere", but stimulated. And precisely THE LACK OF PRACTICAL steps by Russia to really counteract the United States and NATO. Incl. their "creeping invasion" on the post-Soviet territories. Just in case ... The "Munich speech" (and this is not a "practice" yet, but just an "official warning") was made by Russia only 17 years ago ... So shitting "dirty bombs" in the territories, where Uncle Sam and NATO were going to "settle safely", they had no need ...

Secondly, the GWP 2020 program (adopted in 2010) was implemented (and quite successfully, in terms of developing the potential of the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Armed Forces and the development of OTRK carriers) only, somewhere by the end of 2019) ...

I propose to forget about "convection" solutions in the event of a collision with NATO and the United States. Territory of the USA, etc. "Europe", to the consequences for the population and infrastructure, inflicting a massive nuclear strike on it, is much more vulnerable than the territory of Russia ...

[3danimal]

How can you not understand that there will be much fewer people left on our territory after the strikes than before them.
Most of the territory is sparsely populated, undeveloped. The climate is not too mild, again.

I propose to forget about "convection" solutions in the event of a collision with NATO and the United States.

You see, there is a difference between "we were defeated and forced to withdraw troops from a neighboring country" and "the enemy hordes are rapidly moving towards Moscow."
And if we are talking about the loss of freshly captured pieces of the Earth or the death of tens of millions of Russians, the adequate choice, I think, is quite unambiguous.
Another thing is that I doubt that the US Armed Forces will stand against us in contact battles. (The mentality is different, it's not rockets to nail)

[ABC-schutze]

After I read it - "tens of seconds", I didn’t read further ...

By the way, in how many seconds, after that, will "Finland" itself disappear (and without any quotes ...)? for shelter 18 - 12 thousand people. To "survive" the blow...

They won’t survive ... And its consequences, all the more so ...

[3danimal]

in how many seconds, after that, will "Finland" itself disappear (and without any quotes ...) ?.

What kind of naivete? Who cares what will happen to Finland? The main thing is that the RMD will be launched, and the flight time will be less than a minute.

[ABC-schutze]

By the way, if you insist so, then the “disappearance” of not only Finland is quite accessible to my horizons. BUT and the entire Scandinavian Peninsula as a whole. Including Norway, and not just the potential NATO-vsky, Chukhon-Swedish "remake" ...

Oh, and by the way ...

What makes you think that Russia, after its strategic nuclear forces have delivered a retaliatory (and, possibly, preemptive, which is not excluded ...) strike, in general, will be interested in "what and who is interested"? ..

[3danimal]

BUT and the entire Scandinavian Peninsula as a whole.

Oh, this is ignorance..
Total Russia's arsenal is not enough for your Wishlist.
For you to understand: the energy of an earthquake with a magnitude of 8,5 is equal to 100x100 megatons. Do you understand? All these flutterings and conceit of ours do not stand next to geological processes.
In addition, if someone in the leadership goes crazy and tries to “evaporate” the Scandinavian peninsula, then nothing will fly to the USA at all.

[3danimal]

read, - "tens of seconds", did not read further ...

By the way, for the development of your horizons: from Kirkenes to Murmansk is only 200 km.
So yes, in the event of a strike from Finnish territory, we are talking about a critically short flight time.
(Say, for RMD with an average flight speed of 1500 m / s, this is 133 s)
This is to the question of the "non-danger" of changing the non-bloc status of Finland.

[ABC-schutze]

My "outlook", unlike yours, alas, is inaccessible, REAL time, REAL reaction of the Strategic Nuclear Forces of the Russian Armed Forces only to the appearance of the first and slightest signs of the beginning of preparation (and without it, even out of "constant" readiness, it is impossible to strike ...) missile attack on targets on its territory.

And without this information, all your "layouts" about "tens of seconds", as well as about their hypothetical "consequences" for Russia, are banal (but very common ...) "expert" verbiage ...

By the way, years ago ... 20 years ago, it was a missile with the parameters of the OTRK-RMD, launched from the territory of Norway, without prior notification of this launch by the Russian side, that the respected grandfather "Dnepr" confidently "spotted" (discovered, captured and escorted, with determination of the point of fall, even before it had time to reach the apogee of its territory). And with the "making of a decision" timely and adequate for this launch, no "problems" arose ...

So, the US, NATO and you can breathe evenly. And "sit quietly"...

Starts from the territory of the Chukhonia of Russia, "of course", without the need. But if already, so "comrades ask", all their "orders" will be "served" without delay and "in full" ...

[Sarboz]

Quote: 3danimal

Bad, suicidal idea.
It is better to defeat conventionally, on the battlefield, breaking the will of the pampered American GIs in contact battles.

Bad idea by Petraeus. At the same time, they cannot fail to understand that there is no need for us to use tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine, and besides, it is simply unacceptable for us to detonate nuclear charges at our borders. And this means that the Americans are once again stirring up some kind of provocation with the Ukrainians, now with nuclear weapons. We cannot prevent them from doing this. Therefore, it is necessary to convincingly let them know that in this case, we will immediately and without hesitation strike at American territory.

[Osipov9391]

And what about the territory of Finland?!
Tridents from British submarines can hit the bases of the Northern Fleet on the Kola Peninsula, as well as the Plesetsk cosmodrome, along a flat trajectory
From the advanced positions in the Norwegian Sea - the area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbabout. Bear and about. Svalbard.
They regularly go to those parts.

[4ekist]

If Russia uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine, the US and NATO could strike Russian troops on Ukrainian territory

If, yes, if only. This margenal Petraeus should have filtered his "bazaar"

[3danimal]

With a high probability, retired high-ranking military men like Petraeus are broadcasting an official position, which, however, US leaders are not ready to personally announce publicly.
Except perhaps through unofficial channels (as the US Secretary of State recently stated).
Question: How real are these threats?
about the defeat of our army within the borders of Ukraine and the destruction of the Black Sea Fleet?

[Beetle1991]

It is better to defeat conventionally, on the battlefield, breaking the will of the pampered American GIs in contact battles.

Because of such illusions about the enemy, one has to pay with the lives of soldiers.

There was such an expert, Korotchenko, so he rolled pampered stupid Americans from the sofa just like that.
But then SVO happened and everything fell apart.
All this nonsense about not having analogues and so on. It seems like they were preparing to confront NATO and the United States, but here in Ukraine for more than six months they have been trampling, tug-of-war.
And there is no need to drive that NATO is fighting there. Yes, they help the Ukrainians, but hundreds of American / NATO fighters do not fly over the battlefield there, there are no American armored divisions, an expeditionary corps, and so on.
Yes advisors and weapons are supplied. But this is not comparable to a direct clash with the US and NATO. In this situation, it will not be necessary to exchange fire with Ukrainian mobiles (armed with old Soviet weapons collected from all over Eastern Europe).

[3danimal]

Because of such illusions about the enemy,

Excuse me, but they have all sorts of LGBT people serving in the army. Decomposed completely, only at a distance and can fight
Another thing is our

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: NDR-791

All in the caldera and ulds.

It's more useless than cutting and scrapping.

[Dilettante grandfather]

Why waste a warhead?! Three people with punchers and backpacks stuffed with liquor and snacks will suffice. The main thing is that they argue: Vasya, we argue, the three of us will drill through the planet here and be able to get home?

[Sergey_B]

With Yellowstone, a bloated topic, no eruption is planned there, apparently. And what will be in the future will be weak.
Useless waste of backpacks, nuclear weapons and everything that they want to dump there.

[Boniface]

Does recoil not torment?
You have completely lost your conscience!
US declared war on us? The outskirts of an ally of the United States, a NATO country?

[El Chuvachino]

8 years ago, and 1% impudence from such statements did not sound. Well it was necessary to miss the moment.

[Diana Ilyina]

Are you sure we missed it? We had the Mir system, we had enough missiles so that they would not run out within six months, we definitely had everything that we have now, although what we have now is not quite enough?

PS Everyone fancies himself a strategist seeing the battle from the side ...!

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Boniface

You have completely lost your conscience!

Crocodile... it's a pity....
On whose skin he sits.

Greenpeace will fire him in FIG. Or is it leatherette?

[Boniface]

Australian cowboy - Dundee, nicknamed Crocodile!

[Cheshire]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Or is it leatherette?

The skin of a young dermantin.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Crocodile ... sorry ....
On whose skin he sits.

Greenpeace will fire him in FIG. Or is it leatherette?

Dinosaur on dinosaur skin.

[Saboteur_Navy]

Naive Yankee, the USA is more vulnerable, in the event of a nuclear strike on the USA, everyone will die there, due to the terrible population density, plus the territory is prone to flooding

[Trapp1st]

Naive Yankee, the USA is more vulnerable, in the event of a nuclear strike on the USA, everyone will die there, due to the terrible population density, plus the territory is prone to flooding

Firstly, no one will hit the United States, you have 7 months as an example of how the Russian Federation is waging war. Secondly, the population density in Russian cities is higher than in the United States.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Trapp1st

Secondly, the population density in Russian cities is higher than in the United States.

Are you seriously?

Quote: Trapp1st

You have 7 months as an example of how the Russian Federation is waging war.

and what about 7 months we have direct clashes with mattresses?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

and what about 7 months we have direct clashes with mattresses?

Worse, with their mattress topper stretched with mattresses.

[3danimal]

Secondly, the population density in Russian cities is higher than in the United States.

Are you seriously?

Feel free to compare population density maps.

Here is ours. A huge part of the territory is sparsely inhabited, most people live relatively compactly.

[Saboteur_Navy]

Oh, New York, Chicago, Boston, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Dallas, especially working hours, these are tales that residents do not live in cities, they also live in rented apartments, and the suburbs will capture the shock wave

[Trapp1st]

and the suburbs will capture the shock wave

this and that, huge suburbs with houses of 1-2 floors, and what do we have ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Trapp1st

and what do we have...

completely different systems of both arrangement and the principle of creating production

[Saboteur_Navy]

Our two cities are densely populated, unlike the USA, in the USA not only the cities are huge and there are many of them, but the distances between cities are not large, the Yankees with their New Yorks and Chicagos, Bostons ... will all be in ashes ... , And Florida will simply flood the Tsunami with contaminated water

[3danimal]

Many goals are obtained.
But the priority is to launch something for the military.
A part will be intercepted by strategic missile defense (GBMD, THAAD), the first is generally capable of knocking out 3-10 warheads (interception in the middle flight segment).
We have A-235 only over Moscow.

[Olga]

Quote: Trapp1st

population density in Russian cities is higher than in the United States

1. The United States ranks 142nd in terms of population density. RF takes 180th place.
2. The density of New York (for example) is 40% higher than in Moscow.
3. The US population is concentrated in large cities along the coast.

[mojohed2012]

It is necessary to tell this frame to our Poseidon.
With Poseidon, the matter is generally cloudy here.
On the one hand, if we are the first to hit them with Yaos, there is nothing to launch missiles for. Quietly, without panic, Poseidon goes to the coasts of NATO countries and explodes everywhere at once. The very first wave demolishes everything there, and only then our missiles with yaos finish off the enemy. And no systems for early detection of the launch of Yao will work for them.
And GDP: once you started hitting first in February, be ready to hit the USA first, but not in the way they think!

[Trapp1st]

Poseidon goes to the coast of NATO countries

In connection with the emergence of new underwater drones in the United States, the effectiveness of Poseidon in the future is in doubt.

[3danimal]

Poseidon is coming loud.
It goes at a high speed, which makes it noticeable. Yes. Follow him no torpedo will overtake, but they will be launched across the way, from nuclear warheads.
So this project, rejected by the military in the 60s, is of little use.

[dauria]

The USA is more vulnerable, in the event of a nuclear strike on the USA, everyone will die there, due to the terrible population density

Wrong. Even under the USSR, before any SALT treaties, we have 120 million, they have 110 million dead. The population density in Russia is much higher than in the US. Everyone lives up to the Urals, and in Moscow as many as 15% of the population lives and stays like that. No one will bomb bears in the taiga. Here is the nightlife on the planet.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: dauria

No one will bomb bears in the taiga.

the truth for the sake of the city is the same not an end in itself

[dauria]

the truth for the sake of the city is the same not an end in itself

This is the only goal. Do not entertain yourself with illusions. No one will hit ICBMs on already empty mines, ships at sea, airfields from which planes will fly away. Industrial centers and just populated cities. It is for this that separable 10 charges are made - to cover an area target. From one 10 mgt, there is much less sense than from a dozen small ones of 500 kt each. Industry, infrastructure and manpower - that's the goal of the first strike.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: dauria

This is the only goal. Don't be delusional

once again, cities are not an end in themselves

[Mikhail Sidorov]

Here is the nightlife on the planet.

Strange map. Belarusians seem to be sitting in the dark. Well, Old Man is an economist.
And almost the entire territory of Ukraine shines. Tse Europe...

[Osipov9391]

We have very few deployed nuclear warheads and carriers.
Part of the general Soviet production.
After NATO SSBN strikes, we will have mainly Topol and Yarsy left.
And they will have to hit the clusters of NATO and US troops near our borders.
And not in the cities of Europe and the USA.
There simply will not be charges for this.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: Osipov9391

We have very few deployed nuclear warheads and carriers.
Part of the general Soviet production.
After NATO SSBN strikes, we will have mainly Topol and Yarsy left.
And they will have to hit the clusters of NATO and US troops near our borders.
And not in the cities of Europe and the USA.
There simply will not be charges for this.

To talk about it as confidently as you say, you have to be at least Colonel General Karakaev. Confess, Sergey Viktorovich, is that you? If not, then the information (even presented with such aplomb), sorry, does not inspire confidence.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: dauria

The population density in Russia is much higher than in the US. Everyone lives up to the Urals, and in Moscow as many as 15% of the population lives and stays like that. No one will bomb bears in the taiga.

So after all, in the States they mostly live on the coasts. Especially in the east. There, the density differs many dozens of times from the Central and Western States, such as some Wyoming or Dakota - where you can dust for half a day by car until you get to the next gas station, the owner of which is the only resident in the area :))). No one will bomb Indian reservations either.
Therefore, direct the main blow to the line from Boston to Miami, and from the Pacific Ocean to California and Texas - and the damage to the States will be so unacceptable that those units that survive in this war on their part can hardly argue that "and we sawed out more Russians than they us" :)).

[Osipov9391]

The surviving carriers and charges of Russia will first of all have to hit the concentrations of NATO and US troops near their borders.
Otherwise, they will freely enter and seize our territory. There is simply no one to stop them.
Have you forgotten about Japan and South Korea? There are up to 200 thousand US groupings, including aviation and navy + numerous and very technologically advanced armies of these states, which will inevitably take the side of the United States.
They will easily capture our Far East. Nobody will stop them there.
Have you forgotten about Turkey and its half-million army?
It easily occupies our Caucasus and the entire South of Russia. Nobody will stop her.
The same applies to Norway, Poland and a number of others.

If these groups of the US and their allies on our borders are not destroyed immediately, they will inevitably seize the territory of Russia. There will be no obstacles for this.
Therefore, the surviving ICBMs will have to hit these bases and clusters.
I'm not talking about the huge military infrastructure of the US and NATO around the world.
Most of it will remain and will hit us.

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: Saboteur_Navy

Naive Yankee, the USA is more vulnerable, in the event of a nuclear strike on the USA, everyone will die there, due to the terrible population density, plus the territory is prone to flooding

Since there are officially no NATO troops in Ukraine, no one will beat them. The eye will slip.

[Osipov9391]

The territory of Europe and the USA (more precisely, the population / economy) are much less vulnerable than in Russia.
There are a lot of people living in the countryside, small towns, private houses on the outskirts of big cities.
They are not tied to central heating and other central utilities.
They are much easier.
And they will not practically hit them - we barely have charges to destroy NATO's military infrastructure.

But the population of Russia is 70-75% (especially in cold weather) vulnerable.
It lives very compactly in the European part of Russia in 20-25 large cities.
So they can become targets for a strike.
After that, the state will disappear in terms of economy and population.

[Petr_Koldunov]

When you say Ivan Vasilyevich - it seems that you are delusional (c)
However, if you are from tsipso, then all this stream of reason here, aimed at convincing us all that we will love the kapets - we will explain (I read your comments over the past week) ... but it's no less delusional :))

[Silver99]

One thing is not clear, on the basis of what to hit? Ukraine, what is a member of NATO? Irresponsible talkers, and seek to die according to the Supreme.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote from Silver99

Irresponsible talkers,

Talkers are talkers, but a nuclear provocation in Ukraine seems to be planned.

We need will interpret spread of radiation to NATO countries in the event of a Russian nuclear strike on Ukraine as an attack on the North Atlantic Alliance.

[NDR-791]

ex-director of the CIA, escalating the situation, for some reason does not say anything about the fact that in this case the threats emanating from him will not change anything for the US and NATO if it comes to their direct conflict with Russia.

It sounded somewhat ambiguous. I'm thinking for them, oh, how it will change, not everyone in Cheyenne will sit out.

[Romario_Argo]

they say K-329 Belgorod went to exercises in the Kara Sea
1 Poseidon could wash the entire east coast of the United States into the ocean 120 million Americans
or maybe only New York 11 million Americans - and who will prove that it is we (?)
not China (?), or Iran (?) or DPRK (?)
how to understand from where flew or sailed (?) - and whose is it (?)
who does the US respond to (?) - otherwise it can fly already and from everyone at once and at once (!)

[dauria]

1 Poseidon can wash the entire east coast of the United States into the ocean

He will not even suit the spring flood in New York. It will break anchors and throw a couple of barges ashore, break yachts and poison all the water, boiling a small part. And enough fairy tales.
The charge must be detonated at an altitude of 200-300 m above the city center, and not in the water outside the city.
However, looking at the "successes" of the NVO, I am not surprised at the competence of the president's advisers.

[Romario_Argo]

you are partly right, depending on what charge Poseidon has,
if you hypothetically believe Sivkov, then 100 megatons is another gift

[Lech from Android.]

These Americans have become quite insolent ... they are already threatening us with all punishments without hiding ... and I think it is because of the toothlessness of our policy that we must adequately respond to each of their attacks ... which is not being done.
This gives them confidence that Russians can spread rot with impunity.

[tralflot1832]

In the United States, it is impossible to discuss the topic of a retaliatory strike on their territory and its consequences in front of journalists. That's it.

[Dartanian]

If NATO strikes with nuclear weapons on our troops on the territory of Ukraine and announces that the strikes will only be on the territory of Ukraine, then ours will not answer, this is a yellow line, we only have red in words

[Lis_Domino]

if the West is hysterical about possible actions, then they must be done.
if the West praises for some actions, then it is unnecessary to do them.
"L" - Logic

[DenVB]

Quote: Lis_Domino

if the West is hysterical about possible actions, then they must be done.

Right. And the goals have long been proposed - strategic bridges, primarily across the Dnieper. Blow several bridges to dust with tactical warheads. Immediately warn - in the event of a strike, even a conventional one, against any Russian targets, even in Ukraine, no matter where, tactical nuclear strikes will be carried out on NATO bases and targets, from which strikes are carried out on Russian targets.

And let them piss and think: are the Russians bluffing? And suddenly not?

[Hitriy Zhuk]

In general, there mattresses are doing something in Syria, they are running around stealing oil.
Officially, they are not there.
Isn't it time to strike at unidentified organized crime groups?

[HAM]

From all this chatter, only one conclusion can be drawn --- from the United States or Ukraine, one should expect provocations from nuclear weapons or nuclear power plants, Nord Streams is proof of this, the Yankers will stop at nothing and, it seems, they have already made such a decision ... .and talkers, albeit retired, are preparing the ground ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Then we and our allies could destroy all Russian troops that we can identify on the battlefield on Ukrainian territory, as well as on the Black Sea and in the Crimea.

in response, we will hit the mattress and hello stone age
are they totally screwed up?

[Pankrat25]

[quote] [/ quote] in response, we will hit the mattress and hello stone age
No, Syria

[Lis_Domino]

they sincerely believe that this will not affect their territory. unafraid idiots

[Uprun]

So you still do not understand the essence of the striped? No one is going to strike at the outskirts of nuclear weapons, and they scream from all the irons, if only, then we ..... and the topic was dispersed ..... And in the end they will say that only the collective West, by the force of threats, could stop GDP from adopting solutions ...... Another information nonsense ....., we, yes, we, naked ... on a hedgehog ....

[Flooding]

Does the chair represent NATO's overblown ambitions?

[Grig_bug]

I recognize Mr. Petraeus, who fueled the religious conflict in Iraq, paving the way for the notorious ISIS (prohibited terrorist group). And now "King David", slyly philosophizing, is trying to label Russia as a nuclear armageddonist? Oh well. I feel like it's time to stir up his Middle Eastern affairs to remind the public who he is ...

[iouris]

It's like with gas pipelines: they said that they would not be - here they are.
If the CIA says in advance that it will "apply", then it will "apply". Those. NATO will strike at the moment it considers favorable. Not the fact that in Ukraine.

[rotmistr60]

Former director of the CIA

Is this the one who confidently said that Russia committed sabotage on gas pipelines in order to punish Europe? It's boring for the ex, but I really want to arrange a coup somewhere, to bang some leader. But in the absence of opportunities, one has to be content with dreams of a strike on Russian troops. Some, having retired, immediately grow wiser, while others begin to progress militant schizophrenia.

[opposite28]

Then we and our allies could destroy all Russian troops that we can identify on the battlefield on Ukrainian territory, as well as on the Black Sea and in the Crimea.

Resigned on November 10, 2012 following a hacking scandal involving his alleged mistress. As it became known, Petraeus gave his mistress Paula Broadwell access to his CIA email and other classified information. Documents testifying to his guilt were sent to a federal court in Charlotte, North Carolina. Petraeus agreed to plead guilty to unauthorized seizure and possession of classified materials. It is pointed out that he mishandled classified information not only while heading the CIA, but also earlier, during his military service. P. Broadwell, a female officer with whom he had an extramarital affair, worked with him on his biography, All In: Education of General David Petraeus.

[Million]

The populist speeches of the ex-director are of no interest to anyone.

[FoBoss_V]

Petraeus lived a worthless life and believes that everyone is the same as him ... Exactly at the moment when NATO strikes at our troops, Petrukha's cozy ranch in Montana turns into fine ash, like all his greedy page

[Leader_Barmaleev]

And if Russia uses volumetric detonating ammunition comparable in power to a tactical nuclear loaf, then, as follows from the text, no one will twitch. The million dollar question is why don't we use it?

[uralex]

The most alarming thing is that in the era of fakes, NATO themselves can be the first to launch a nuclear strike on the territory of Ukraine and blame Russia for this ... But how frostbitten one must be to take such a step ...

[Andriuha077]

Attempts to create a "dirty" nuclear bomb, part of the documentation for which was intercepted by Russian intelligence, were also carried out in the current non-nuclear status.
9 APR:
Portable radioisotope identifier Verifinder SN20 manufactured by the American company "Symetrica". According to official data, this equipment was not supplied to the territory of Ukraine as part of military assistance, and is also not on free sale.
https://t.me/marochkolive/24347?single

[Nicu]

With stories to scare children, if Russia wanted to use tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine, they could use it at any time without fear that NATO-US will respond, Russia does not want to use nuclear weapons on the territory of Ukraine; what is this? if you have a naughty girlfriend, do you kill her as punishment for it?! So....what this ex-commander is saying is rainwater, America believes that at the moment it has reached a technological level that allows it to destroy any country in the world without being destroyed itself, this is their biggest mistake.
The United States can be destroyed not only with nuclear weapons .. but also with their own technologies, an allusion to the film INDEPENDENCE DAY! when aliens destroyed their own equipment (alien ships), which fell into the hands of brave hero pilots.

[Tarasios]

Here amers want someone else's blood, as long as they exist - they drink so much blood.

[Maybe_Cost]

Sounds like a quote from Debil
but there is a secret meaning in such tomfoolery ... And let's immediately multiply the United States by zero, huh? What do you think? As they say, do what you must and be what will be!

[Boris Sergeev]

The United States is not afraid to discuss the possibility of a nuclear strike on Russia, and in Russia they do not even respond to the shelling of troops from American Hymers.

[Valery Babin]

How is this scum still alive? Disorder! I wonder where this app is broadcasting from?

[rusich]

And the Russian troops could then, in response, hit the Yankees in the geyropa, the Baltic vymerata, Okinawa. Yes, and it would be nice to make a channel to them in the place of North America. I.V. Stalin. After all, the carrier of "Poseidons" went to sea

[bbss]

How to rake a lyuley out of the blue ...

[Alex20042004]

The decision-making center is not located in Ukraine, so you need to start with ov, and after that the square will be blown away the next day.

[Oleg812spb]

I wonder what he thinks about Russia's use of not tactical, but strategic nuclear weapons?

[OLEG 61]

they only know how to bark and everyone also ex me

[Osipov9391]

Why are you quoting this character?
It's LONG out of business. This is his pensioner's opinion purely.
And the hypothetical response to such events may be completely different - according to the treaties in which Russia is and in violation of which it will be carried away.

Other nuclear powers that are parties to the agreements gather and urgently work out how to respond against a country that has carried out a nuclear attack on a non-nuclear state.
Just by transferring to the country that was attacked by its tactical charges. In limited quantity and equal power.
Made. They gave recommendations on targets, and Ukraine applies them to concentrations of Russian troops, for example, in Kherson or Donbass.
Or in the steppe regions of Crimea if the blow was defiant in Ukraine.
At the same time, a warning is being issued through diplomatic channels that they say do not do this again.
Все.

[Metlik]

Big business doesn't care about Russia, NATO, the US and nuclear war. They are accustomed to getting out of the crisis at the expense of a big war in Europe, and now they are fomenting it.
They have special hopes for a useful idiot in the Kremlin, who grabs for any, the most crazy ideas, in order to sit on a shaky chair.

[orionvitt]

We are waiting for a nuclear provocation in Ukraine, from the United States. Nothing fucking new.

[Vyacheslav34]

Is it true that he was the director of the CIA? Usually fools are not kept in such positions.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Are they drinking some special poisonous water? Which one has a strong effect on the brain?
At least one legal justification for the US strike on Russia? At least the only...

[Liam]

Quote: Peter_Koldunov

At least one legal justification for the US strike on Russia? Though the only

the resolution of the UN Security Council of June 19, 1968 and identical statements by the three nuclear powers - the USSR, the USA and Great Britain on the issue of security guarantees for non-nuclear states parties to the treaty. The resolution provides that in the event of a nuclear attack on a non-nuclear state or the threat of such an attack, the Security Council and, above all, its permanent members possessing nuclear weapons, will have to act immediately in accordance with the UN Charter to repel aggression; it also reaffirms the right of states to individual and collective self-defence in accordance with Article 51 of the UN Charter until the Security Council takes the necessary measures to maintain international peace and security. The statements made by each of the three Powers at the adoption of this resolution indicate that any State that has committed aggression with the use of nuclear weapons or threatened such aggression should know that its actions will be effectively repelled by measures taken in accordance with the UN Charter; they also proclaim the intention of the USSR, the USA and Great Britain to provide assistance to that non-nuclear party to the treaty, which will be subjected to a nuclear attack.

[Osipov9391]

This is all true. And then there is the Budapest Memorandum signed by the nuclear powers-security guarantors for Ukraine.
Willy-nilly, the West will have to transfer its charges to Ukraine in response to Russia's hypothetical use of nuclear weapons.
That is what this treaty requires - all world security rests on it.

[This is the main]

the effectiveness of the enemy’s missile defense system is such that it will not hit even half of the strategic weapons of the Russian Federation that are already standing, but the new weapon that has just been accepted and put into service, the adversary can only count explosions on its territory, the first echelon will go to a new weapon that will suppress the enemy’s missile defense and nuclear weapons delivery systems , and then no less high-quality missiles will come that will kill cockroaches at the most important objects of the adversary.

[Osipov9391]

And you don't have to hit everything. Under this system, missile defense systems are not made.
We are talking about the so-called residual potential that will survive after a disarming strike.
We are talking about monobloc "Topols" and "Yars" (hundreds of others) and several dozen SLBMs of the "Sineva" and "Bulava" types that can survive and be launched from the White / Okhotsk Seas.

All other media will probably not be used at all.
It is for such a reflection of such a strike that the US missile defense system is being built.
And then if most of this residual potential slips through, then it will not cause significant damage to them.

[buslaif]

If Russia uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine, the US and NATO could strike Russian troops on Ukrainian territory.....
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He looks like a normal person, but judging by what was said, a complete idiot. If nuclear weapons are used, then certainly not in Ukraine. To create such, and then themselves and disentangle this radioactive shit? Is he definitely a general and a former CIA officer? Do they have something there, Biden is sick in his head and not alone, are there others?

[evgen1221]

The can has contagious pheromones, a walking bioweapon, upon contact, everyone goes into complete dementia, some without the possibility of reload.

[Yuriy1000]

After all, they don’t live in peace, by the way, maybe after October 5-7 Russia will declare war on Ukraine, with an ultimatum (or / or)?

[Normann]

And it’s not scary that our country will cease to exist, we are scared.

[evgen1221]

Yes bah, though after that the United States, Europe, Australia will cease to exist. But it's all the same, the elves live exclusively on the moon apparently.

[buslaif]

Quote: Chief

the effectiveness of the enemy’s missile defense system is such that it will not hit even half of the already standing strategic weapons of the Russian Federation,

I am afraid that such a "competition" will have neither winners nor losers. Therefore, it is not worth tempting fate. According to experts, today not a single country in the world can, primarily for economic reasons, create a missile defense system capable of protecting its entire territory from a massive missile attack. Even the American missile defense system protects only the positional areas of ballistic missiles, Washington and New York are not covered from missile attacks.

[acetophenone]

I don’t understand why nuclear weapons are used on the outskirts of Russia? Only and exclusively in America. No need to shit where you live! This should simply be spelled out in military doctrine.

[silviu]

Ukraine has long been fighting not with Ukrainian weapons, but with NATO ones, and they are letting it go at the behest of America and to please it. The ex-director is mistaken that this share will be avoided by the United States when it is not decided on Ukraine. It will be better for everyone if these two nuclear powers reconcile, and if they harm each other, unenviable and bad times await everyone, both the poor and the rich, regardless of who will be in power in these countries. The time has passed to wave checkers and think that by cunning or meanness it will not work to win this proxy war and there will be no one to look for the culprit. Come to your senses a couple more of these steps and it will be too late. It will be too late for everyone.

[silviu]

And David Petraeus's fears are reminiscent of a cartoon about a brother rabbit and a thorn bush, from the same series - but it would be nice because the thorn bush is our home

[Lisiy Prapor]

His chair is curly. He should also have a helmet like Papa Luke has.

[Mascot]

They push senseless speeches, beat themselves with a "heel in the chest" and never think about the fact that they are not immortal. Everything comes to an end sooner or later. And what "end" will come to such mediocrity, Russia will decide - the last word is always with us.

[bsk_una]

Mr author! I don’t agree with your interpretation: ... in the event of a strike on Russian troops, the United States and NATO become direct participants in hostilities, which automatically means the possibility of striking American (NATO) troops as well ... The answer should be the same, all NATO territories, including The United States and England should be the target of a nuclear missile attack by Russia in the first place. I wanted to indulge in the great war, we haven’t received an answer for a long time, there should be only one answer, in all NATO territories, where there are troops and weapons with all frankness. And don’t la-la, Mr. Author, enough to let down their soldiers to all sorts of crooks, it’s time to know the honor !!!

[kulemin0025gmail.com]

Super! If only, then we could ... And declares this - EX. In the west, an analogue of "quarter 95" appeared?

[yuriy55]

Former CIA director: If Russia uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine, the US and NATO could hit Russian troops on Ukrainian territory

It seems that the ex-shit has already dried to powder, but “it” still continues to stink.
I don’t want to take anyone’s place, but you can answer this way: if preparations for a missile attack on the Russian Federation and Belarus are discovered, the Russian Strategic Missile Forces will wipe out one of the three NATO states from the face of the earth (GB, France or Belgium - let them guess - to choose from).
The Yellowstone Caldera will be hit by hypersonic elements of the Avangard, and the entire eastern coast of the USA and Canada will be covered by a tsunami... So as not to wag our tongues in vain...
And further. You have three months to restore the joint venture, after which say goodbye to your communications in the North Sea and the Atlantic...
*****
Let them sit and shake after that. That's the only way to talk to scoundrels. This is the only way to stop Satanists. Stop showing your back to them. If a fight is unavoidable. It's time to get out the spare cutlass.

[meandr51]

There is no use in scaring them. You've probably never interacted with bandits. You have to hit everyone first and at once. In addition, about Yellowstone and the tsunami - tales of the Vienna Woods. Nuclear scientist Boyarshinov easily exposes them. It is impossible to activate the caldera, as well as create a tsunami with nuclear explosions of any power. The tectonic energy of the planet is millions of times greater and does not come from one point. It is much better to quickly eliminate the key figures in the world government.

[yuriy55]

Quote: meandr51

Nuclear engineer Boyarshinov

Let's start with this:

Boyarshinov Boris Sergeevich - engineer-physicist with a specialty in experimental nuclear physics, 40 years of work experience, more than 20 years of teaching experience. Graduated from the Faculty of Experimental and Theoretical Physics of MEPhI, qualified as an engineer-physicist with a specialty in “experimental nuclear physics”. He completed correspondence postgraduate studies in solid state physics at the Institute of General Physics of the USSR Academy of Sciences and defended his candidate's thesis in a specialized council chaired by Prokhorov (diploma dated January 10, 1990).

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He began his career in 1978 immediately after graduating from MEPhI: he worked at the Mechanical Engineering Design Bureau in his hometown, where he returned after university. Gradually, Boris Sergeevich began to engage in theoretical science, and also in teaching activities: at the correspondence branch of the All-Union Polytechnic Institute in Kolomna, he taught computer science and programming.

And comparable to:

On October 24, 1990, the Soviet Union conducted the last nuclear test in its history.

I have nothing against it, but the experience gained and knowledge of intimacy according to the Kama Sutra is not of great value. From the word absolutely.

[EFIM LYUBIN]

There will be no nuclear attack on the territory of the United States and some NATO countries! Russian oligarchs and thieves and traitors in the Kremlin will not allow what was stolen from Russia to be destroyed! To put it bluntly, this is “foolishness”! Don’t you understand yet - the army is led by mediocre ceremonial generals! There is a repetition with terrifying accuracy of the complete failure of the Red Army in the summer of 1941 due to the incompetent leadership of the Red Army! An outright betrayal in the highest echelons of power - reluctance to strike at the supply routes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with NATO weapons and the infrastructure of Ukraine! A pre-emptive strike with nuclear weapons on a maximum of 10 targets on US territory (Russia has the means to do this, the US has no protection from this) will not lead to World War III! But it looks like the Kremlin will be waiting for such a blow from the United States...