People's Militia of the DPR: The first mobilized citizens of Russia arrived in the republic

The first mobilized citizens of Russia arrived in the Donetsk People's Republic. After the necessary training activities, they will take part in a special military operation.

This was reported by the press service of the DPR People's Militia in its official Telegram channel.

Now the mobilized servicemen from Russia who have arrived in the republic are undergoing intensive combat training at the training grounds. The preparatory program takes into account the experience of real military operations in the framework of a special operation.

The People's Militia of the DPR notes that the local population warmly welcomes the reservists from Russia.

Residents of the people's republics enthusiastically met the approaching forces and thank the President of the Russian Federation for the decision

- it is said in the message of her press-service.

Formerly newspaper reporters "News" We had a talk with a motorized rifle battalion commander, who spoke about the preparation of citizens who arrived for partial mobilization to participate in a special operation. He said that classes with reservists are conducted by regular officers who have already managed to gain real combat experience within the framework of the SVO.

The drafted citizens successfully master military equipment and weapons. They work out the management of technical means and the possession of various types of weapons.

Partial mobilization has been taking place in Russia since September 21.

Comments

[Victor_B]

We wish our soldiers a speedy victory!

[Aerodrome]

People's Militia of the DPR: The first mobilized citizens of Russia arrived in the republic

nothing sebeherasment ... and where 2 months. combat coordination? immediately into the zone practically within the reach of the RSZO? As a matter of fact, it is so close. somehow again not everything is as presented.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Aerodrome

where is 2 months? combat coordination?

Duc, the article says that training is underway, and training is conducted by combat officers.
From myself I will add, these officers should not decrease far from their units, you never know.

[Maxim G]

Need training in a war zone? Where can you get shot?

[Alexander Seklitsky]

It must be assumed that already more trained fighters got there. By the way, Podolyaka spoke about this. And by the way, it’s still unknown who will be more lucky. With this, they will immediately join the combat situation or those who will kick the bulldozer in training for two months. And then they will throw the unfired into battle

[Maxim G]

Podolyaka with them, did he train?
He knows where the fighters are.
Lucky for those who are lucky with training in the rear.

Well, about kicking the bulldozer is indicative, is this your opinion about the RF Ministry of Defense?

[Hitriy Zhuk]

How to say.
There - a real experience with the heat of the heat.
And somewhere near Krasnoyarsk - far from a fact.

[Alexander Antonov_2]

Podolyaka and Rozhin, storytellers and propagandists, just look at the "analysis" and the maps that Podolyaka drew in March-April.

[Captain Pushkin]

There you need to teach, exactly what you need to know in this particular war, and not in some other. And it is precisely those who have rich experience in this particular war that should teach.
The experience of previous wars bears little resemblance to the realities of this war.
Shelling of the rear ranges is unlikely - there are a sufficient number of more important targets near the front line.

[Maxim G]

And for this it is necessary to endanger the mobilized?

[Captain Pushkin]

Maxim, it is generally dangerous to be in the army, anywhere in the world.
And this is even without exercises with live fire.
Did you serve yourself? Hardly...
If recruits were taught by officers who did not sniff gunpowder, this would be really dangerous, in the very first battles. Much more dangerous than training at the LPR rear range.
Living is generally dangerous.
In Germany, I do not remember for what period, 600 people fell to their deaths by falling out of bed at night.

[Maxim G]

What are you writing on the basis of? Your conclusions?

[Captain Pushkin]

Based on life experience.
In the army, there are many ways to lose life or health without the help of the enemy.

[Maxim G]

And what does the experience of millennia of wars tell us?

[Captain Pushkin]

To you? I have no idea.
However, like you, at best, you have a vague idea about the wars that took place millennia ago.
Read a couple of comments below, perhaps naive questions will fall off on their own.

[Maxim G]

I have read yours.
And I see that they do not care about the life of the mobilized, and their effectiveness.

[UAZ 452]

So the authorities said the same - in Russia 25 million can be mobilized, so 300 thousand of the first wave - at the level of statistical error. And anyone who has studied the history of the Great Patriotic War from Soviet and Russian textbooks knows that the main proof that it was the USSR that made the decisive contribution to the victory is the exorbitant losses of the Soviet people. So, the greater the loss, the more reason to be proud of the victory over ukrofascism.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: UAZ 452

the main proof that it was the USSR that made a decisive contribution to the victory is the exorbitant losses of the Soviet people.

Is it okay that two-thirds of the 27 million who died in the Second World War are civilians?

[UAZ 452]

Is it okay that the main task of the army is to prevent the death of the civilian population? And if two-thirds of the dead are civilians, then this is an indelible shame for any army. And in our country, even historians argue like you - since "only" 8 million military men died - it's okay, the rest are civilian shpaks, they don't count.

[Captain Pushkin]

Is it okay that the bulk of the dead civilians were killed on the territory occupied by Germany and its allies? Plus, those who died in besieged Leningrad, burned to death in Stalingrad during a massive bombardment?
Following your logic, Hiroshima and Nagasaki are an indelible shame for Japan?
Nothing beguiled?
This is an indelible shame for the army PURPOSELY KILLING civilians, i.e. for the armies of Germany and its allies, the USA and Great Britain. These are historical facts.
And at the moment, for the army of Ukraine.

[UAZ 452]

About Hiroshima and Nagasaki - he did not confuse anything. The Japanese army could not protect their cities, could not provide impenetrable air defense. This is their fault, and as far as I imagine the psychology of the Japanese, it would never occur to anyone to wash their hands and distance themselves from these losses.
And if you think that the blame for those killed in Stalingrad and Leningrad does not lie, among other things, on those who could not or did not want to ensure the evacuation of the civilian population (in the same Leningrad, all the population who died of starvation worked exclusively at defense plants?), then you have the right to think so. I think otherwise. The Nazis killed them, but who could not protect, although he was obliged, according to the oath, is another question.

[Maxim G]

I thought because a decisive battle took place on the Eastern Front and the main part of the Nazi troops was ground, but it turns out ...

[UAZ 452]

I would also think so, but propagandists have their own logic and their own tasks. The losses of Germany in the Second World War are about 12 million people, of which the losses of the army (with allies) are 8,5 million, of which on the Eastern Front - 5 million. This is already enough to confirm the contribution of the decisive contribution of the USSR, but it seemed to someone that this was not enough - 3,5 million, it turns out, were liquidated by the allies, whose contribution, therefore, also turned out to be not much less than half. Then they used other figures - more than 20 (about the value of this "extra" they still argue) millions of our dead citizens began to be cited, contrasting 400 thousand dead Americans, 450 thousand British (this, together with the inhabitants of the colonies), this ratio inspired to a greater extent . Well, the phrase that a good soldier is not the one who dies for the Motherland, but the one who contributes to the fact that his opponents die for their Motherland, we have never been a guide to action. Unfortunately.

[Skif]

Um. They called, in general, not to sing songs.

[UAZ 452]

And it is precisely those who have rich experience in this particular war that should teach.

You are absolutely right! That is why, in all the armies of the world, this is solved by sending the best soldiers, sergeants and officers to the rear as instructors, training reinforcements, without the risk of their defeat by the enemy BEFORE they finish their training. But we always go our own way.

[Vlad2012]

Even our children are not so worried being 10 km from the front line. Polygons in the depths of the territory. They were built at least 30 km away from the heavy equipment withdrawal line according to the Minsk

[single-n]

30 km is just in the zone of destruction of the MLRS, even the old "grads" and a bunch of howitzers .. Just lovely. Withdraw a properly unformed unit for training under enemy fire. I won’t even mention aviation and UAVs. Brilliant. In our campaign, combat training is led by Mikhalkov in the style of an attack with shovels on machine guns.

[bayard]

Quote: Aerodrome

nothing sebeherasment ... and where 2 months. combat coordination? immediately into the zone practically within reach of the RSZO?

In the DPR, there is enough territory that cannot be fired by the enemy. For example, south of Donetsk. And it is better to conduct combat coordination and tactical training precisely in the rear formations of the army in the field, with the transfer of combat experience from already 8,5 years of warring soldiers of the 1st Corps.
You learn quickly in war. And it is easier and faster to feel the "nerve of war" precisely in the near rear of the army in the field.
And if experienced fighters and commanders are seconded to fresh units, or vice versa, the replenishment that has arrived will be distributed among long-standing warring units, the benefits will be many times greater. They will quickly get involved , it will be possible to avoid many mistakes and unnecessary losses in the first battles, which are the most difficult for beginners.

[UAZ 452]

In the DPR, there is enough territory that cannot be fired by the enemy.

And where are the territories inaccessible to the "Points"? Do you think the Armed Forces of Ukraine will spare a rocket for the barracks with the mobilized?

[bayard]

Don't worry, our air defense works well.
And "Points" are confidently shot down by "Beeches", and "Torami", and "Shells", and even more so S-300 \ 400.
Yes, not everywhere already, and "Points" get it.

[single-n]

Antonovsky bridge will not let you lie!!! Air defense is 100% safe!!

[Dimcor]

The Antonovsky bridge has been beaten for three months, if not more, but it is still standing, but it has been partially disabled.

[single-n]

To the point of what it's worth. The most important thing is done. It is unsuitable for transportation. And when you try to repair again damaged. And what do you think - the strength of the reinforced concrete bridge is higher than that of people? This bridge can survive both a close gap and a couple of holes, but how much will it take if they cover the barracks? And is it just a parade ground with a formation? Canteen? Ours periodically draw beautiful figures when they manage to cover the training centers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. There the account on tens and hundreds goes.

[Dimcor]

Firstly, there has been a conflict on the territory of the DPR for 8 years, everything is prepared and put on stream there - the training of recruits. Secondly, it is the territory of Russia.

[mitroha]

Quote: Victor_B

We wish our soldiers a speedy victory!

And let the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation pleasantly surprise us with unexpected moves, and unpleasantly surprise the VFU

[bayard]

Quote: Mitroha

And let the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation pleasantly surprise us

First, you need to reduce the balance of forces at least 1 \ 2. With the number of APU + mercenaries \ PMCs \ foreign special forces of about 750 - 000 people. , we need a grouping of at least 1 people in the theater of operations.
For the enemy’s l / s is sufficiently trained (for 7+ months then), fired at and has no shortage of artillery and ammunition ... Oddly enough, lately it was artillery insufficiency that we felt. And they also have a higher artillery range, and high-precision shells + Chimeras.
If the operation to de-blockade Krasny Liman, which has now begun / announced, is crowned with success ... this will ALREADY be a "pleasant surprise with the moves."
And one wave of mobilization is not enough for nothing.
For now the number of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is estimated at about 1 million (against the strength of 200 thousand in our theater), and after the start of our mobilization, the Armed Forces of Ukraine began the 8th wave of mobilization, and intend to call up about a million more before the new year.
Therefore, the RF Armed Forces will need at least two more of the same waves of mobilization (300 thousand each), taking into account, in addition, the numerical increase in the SV and Airborne Forces by 137 thousand (the order was before the start of mobilization). And even then this will make it possible to have a grouping twice as inferior to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
And the United States is now actively recruiting mercenaries for Ukraine.
And England.
And Poland.
In addition, Poland also mobilized and increased the number of its armed forces over the past 7 months, 4 times.
And the supply of more and more serious military equipment is only growing. And far from all the supplied equipment is officially announced.
So we no longer have much superiority in artillery and MLRS.
and against this background, the United States is supplying the Armed Forces with 18 more Chimeras (the fact that the delivery will be "within several years - lies, installations are probably already in Poland or in / on.
So on the fronts, everything is only getting more complicated, and the conflict will become more and more bloody.
For example, about "today" - during the performance of the GDP, Ukrainian artillery knocked out electricity in almost all of Donetsk.
Congratulations.
All the most serious is just getting closer. And mentally, everyone should be prepared for this.

[stankow]

18 hymers is just three batteries. Only three regiments, or 6000 people of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, will provide. And 300,000 or 100 regiments will soon arrive from Russia. Providing 100 MLRS batteries and much more ... Or do you think they will come out of state? One Kalash?

[bayard]

The fact is that the Chimera is not a MLRS (which works on area targets), but in essence it is a high-precision tactical level system. And with the quality of intelligence and target designation from all the means of the NATO bloc, this is a fairly effective system. They have already knocked out a lot of ammunition depots and command posts, they are quite effective in counter-battery combat ... And on the territory of Ukraine until now there were only 16 such systems. And they created problems.
This is not a child prodigy and our air defense has already learned how to shoot down its (Chimera) missiles, but this leads to the consumption of more complex and expensive missiles. And they (Chimeras) are not tied to specific formations, but are used as highly mobile means of artillery reinforcement in any theater of operations.
We are also doing well with high-precision, but worse with reconnaissance and target designation in real time. Therefore, an additional 18 such systems only from the USA (and after all, England, France, Germany, Italy can also organize new deliveries ...) can seriously enhance the strike capabilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Quote: stankow

And 300,000 will come from Russia soon

I hope that this is only the first wave, because this is also not enough, and no one will immediately throw fresh mobs into battle, they still need to be fired upon, coordination should be carried out, they should get used to the theater, organize and work out combat interaction.
And another question - in what configuration will these fresh parts / connections come? Will they be equipped with artillery regiments, tank divisions, mortar batteries, will there be enough ammo and equipment?
You understand, the number of the Ground Forces of the Russian Federation at the beginning of the NMD was only 280 thousand. That is, the first wave of mobilization more than doubles the total number of the SV. But there is also an order of the Supreme High Command to increase the regular number of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in peacetime by 137 thousand, this order came out earlier than the order on mobilization ... And the autumn draft will also be carried out regardless of mobilization, although a little later than usual. And all this mobilized mass needs to be dressed, shod, fed, equipped (helmets, armor, unloading, first aid kits, surveillance equipment, including night vision, secure communications ... a lot of things), ARMED and not only with machine guns \\ machine guns, but also military equipment, vehicles, waterproof sleeping bags (this is very important at this time of the year), field kitchens and baths, additional medical battalions will also have to be deployed, and hospitals.
The mobilized units / subunits are already arriving to us in the Donbass, but they will not be able to take part in the database right away.
Artillery! It will also need 2-3 times more.
And shells.
And missiles for MLRS.
And tanks. To "strengthen her (infantry) movement with her heavy tread."
And this is all - a multiple increase in the load on the Rear Services.
And for transport.
And UAVs of all kinds, types and purposes.
And when all this is provided for the mobilizers of the First Wave, and they themselves get used to their new quality, restore their skills in their accounting specialties ... Then they will really become a formidable force. Let's say - closer to the New Year. But by that time a new wave of mobilized troops will be fully prepared. By the New Year - Third. That's when there will be a sense.

Quote: stankow

Or do you think they will come out of state? One Kalash?

Anything can be. So far, most likely, it is "with only Kalash" - for training, combat coordination, adaptation to the theater of operations and service in the second echelon. Because to form artillery battalions and regiments and tank brigades will not work so quickly. It will be easier with mortar batteries.
But the Armed Forces of Ukraine, having already now in service from 700 thousand to 1 million "under arms", are already conducting the 8th wave of mobilization. And by the New Year, or by force by spring, they are able to increase their numbers by another million. And this is called preemption in mobilization and combat deployment. They announced mobilization on 24.02.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX. , and we have - just now. Therefore, a couple more months will be difficult. And then - a new quality.

[stankow]

Here you write correctly. And 18 RSZO is a drop in the ocean for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And there is nothing unusual about them.

[Dimcor]

18 Himras systems will be delivered to Ukraine within 2 years. Those. never. And the old ones are already burning out.

[stankow]

Did not know. Moreover, it is not necessary to call Khaymarsy. And then it will turn out to be embarrassing, like with the Bayraktars ...

[Hitriy Zhuk]

Quote: bayard

First, you need to reduce the balance of forces at least 1 \ 2.

Three megatons should be enough.
This is if n 1 piece and pour "little things" for this amount.
After all, it is not necessary to build up our army, you can simply reduce theirs.

[bayard]

Quote: Hitriy Zhuk

After all, it is not necessary to build up our army, you can simply reduce theirs.

These are the fantasies that our General Staff was sick with from the very beginning of the NWO. And how was it reduced?
They reduced, as it were, with no more than 500 thousand killed and wounded.
So what ?
They mobilized so much for themselves in 8 waves that now they have up to 1 million in service, the lightly wounded were again treated and returned to service.
It is impossible to fight in such vast spaces with a handful of brave men. It's just that there will be no one to control the front. And the enemy, using his numerical superiority with numerous reconnaissance groups, gropes for the weak points of the defense and hits them with all his strength, creating superiority in some areas by 8-10 times.
Nuclear weapons can be used and even necessary in such a conflict. But right. It is enough to destroy the bridges across the Dnieper and the Carpathian tunnels with low-power nuclear warheads. Yes, railway decoupling on memory. And that's it - the logistics of the Armed Forces of Ukraine died. And then at least feed them with psychotropic drugs, but without shells, fuel and lubricants and supplies of weapons to replace those knocked out, they will become pliable and helpless.

[Hitriy Zhuk]

Quote: bayard

It is enough to destroy the bridges across the Dnieper and the Carpathian tunnels with low-power nuclear warheads. Yes, railway decoupling on memory. And that's it - the logistics of the Armed Forces of Ukraine died.

Yes, I'm all for it.
But if one-time, in an hour, organize them losses in the hundreds of thousands - this should also give an effect.

[bayard]

Troops never huddle so tightly. One tactical nuclear warhead can destroy a battalion ... well, maybe a regiment. But there can be many side effects.

[Hitriy Zhuk]

I thought before the attack they are collected in a "fist".

[bayard]

And they go in tight formation with bayonets?
It is possible to cover one BTG with a small nuclear warhead from the strength. And no one will arrange carpet nuclear bombing.

[Hitriy Zhuk]

That is, either an object (bunker \ tunnel \ bridge), or around the city, otherwise there is no sense in it?

[bayard]

Quote: Hitriy Zhuk

That is, either an object (bunker \ tunnel \ bridge), or around the city

Another fortified area, junction railway stations, ports.
And for dispersed infantry in an open field so-so . Or apply in bulk.

[Dimcor]

The Chimera is weaker in combat power than the ancient city, of which Russia has already dragged hundreds there, and in addition to the city, there are many other MLRS, the number of Chimeras in Ukraine is approaching zero. Ukraine has at least military equipment, aviation, the Slovaks handed over 20 or how many there, the last ones burn out, tanks? Yes, they have been gone for a long time, the remnants of the Polish ones are still occasionally being repaired. Everything has already ended, Ukraine has the bare minimum of equipment, there are still people, but you yourself know that Ukraine is. All deliveries of new equipment to Ukraine are scheduled at least in 2 years - that is, never.

[guest]

Well, after all the "steps of goodwill" and "regroupings" they can only pleasantly surprise us, everything else will not be surprising.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

If I'm not mistaken, the radio in the photo is 50 years old.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

If I'm not mistaken, the radio in the photo is 50 years old.

I saw this in 81 ..

[james]

R-107M, I served with such 86-85 years

[Polite Moose]

Quote: james

R-107M, I served with such 86-85 years

And the R-105 reminds me. Also dragged in due time.

[boriz]

No, it's the 107th. On the 105th panel on the side and closed with a hinged false panel.
I was at the military department in 75-78. stopped both.

[Radius]

This is R-159m. Very good radio station, reliable as a tank. Allows landing without a parachute :) Works with ZAS "Istorik". A little outdated (1988), but it will still serve!

[single-n]

1988 34 years . This means that at the tactical level, secrecy can be forgotten. It's easier to speak openly. So at least time for encryption will not be lost.

[dmi.pris1]

Well, it’s good that they are dressed and in armor are clearly not the mid-80s. At that time I was running 82-84 in an overcoat ...

[stankow]

And the M113, with which the Americans generously equipped the Armed Forces of Ukraine, is only 62 years old

[Asad]

What terms are allocated for the training of drafted military personnel modestly silent, I hope not a week?

[zombirusrev]

I think these were called up a long time ago .... it was the volunteers who drilled them ..

[fa2998]

Well, I think everyone can count. Mobilization began on 21.

[RED_ICE]

Somewhere they wrote about the month of preparation

[stankow]

It depends very much on the VOS............

[single-n]

In a month, they can only shoot somewhere in the direction of the enemy and teach them not very well.
The Wehrmacht, for example, trained infantrymen for 16 weeks. This is only KMB in the rear. In parts then finished teaching. What can be created in 4 weeks? ... I suspect that a bunch of funerals and a beautiful report on how we quickly "mastered" recruits.

[AdAstra]

Hopefully highlighted. """"""""

[opposite28]

I hope the mobilized citizens of the Russian Federation will correctly assess the enthusiasm, and the inhabitants of the people's republics will show restraint in emotions and folk skills in relation to the mobilized citizens of the Russian Federation. It is important that they do not overdo it with enthusiasm, because since 2014, their souls have fled from the Donbass region in large numbers in all directions.

[Andrey Moskvin]

Come back safe and sound, brothers. Don't take Bandera prisoners!

[Adagka]

Quote: Aerodrome

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

If I'm not mistaken, the radio in the photo is 50 years old.

I saw this in 81 ..

thanks to the ancestors that at least such remained. the current ones didn’t stock a damn thing at all.

[Maxim G]

Baofeng pocket, about the transmission distance, the same as this station....
Already in the region of 2-3 tr. stands on OZONE.

[stankow]

Pace. What is his range? Is parachuting? Can withstand 1 hour under water? Middle gap? And the R-159M can do everything!

[Maxim G]

In the photo, as they say, another radio station.

And you probably don’t know, but caring citizens are dumped or bought by our military radio stations, including.

[stankow]

Not the military, but the militias. And not a military standard, but a civilian one. There are differences.

[Maxim G]

And the military is also buying Baofengs.
As well as civilian drones, thermal imagers, etc.

[stankow]

She is the one in the photo, dear. P159. For communication battalion-company-platoon.

[Maxim G]

Quote: stankow

She is the one in the photo, dear. P159. For communication battalion-company.

Even Gorbachev, caught the time of Perestroika.

[BSD Fan]

What are you talking about? Damn scoops left disgusting walkie-talkies without modern (at the level of the 21st century) encryption! After all, in 1980 they could have thought about the future, and not planted another atomic bomb! Galoshes are solid, not walkie-talkies!

[stankow]

There is an encryption block for the R-159M, there was not a lot of sewing in the scoop

[BSD Fan]

Well, is it really necessary to chew on the people that this is IRONY and a pebble in the garden of our commander-in-chief suffering from the presence of only galosh factories in the USSR! Well, from the context, it’s clear that not only the USSR, but no one in general, with all their desire, could provide an adequate level of encryption for the horizon of 40-50 years!

[ASM]

Now is the hardest time. Many of the newcomers have already gone through the army, they know how to handle weapons and know quite well what they did before. Now they will have to be taught what to do now, along with people of different generations and physical conditions. It is difficult and quite long.

[Dante77]

And where are the months of training? From the couch straight to the front.

[Altmann]

After completing the training, the combat reinforcement of the unit follows. This is a very short time to deploy. If the commander begins to split his forces, nothing good will come of it. I hope that the Russian commander is aware of this and that these are young reservists who still have proper military training.

[Foundling]

Strangely, the Ukrainians trained their own for several months at NATO bases and at home, before they created a shock fist of 700 tons. Before that, they were plugged with a terodefense with poor results. Now it looks like we have gone down this path. This will increase the losses unfortunately. This is obvious, as well as the fact that now 300 thousand mobilized people will not change the situation. They could do it in March. Now, when they gave the dill to mobilize, prepare and arm under a million, the answer can only be a multiple. The General Staff cannot fail to understand this. As I already wrote, someone at the very top plays against.

[Plowman]

Reported in a pioneering way, this is scary ...