Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council Danilov promised to provide an action plan in the event of Russia's "use" of nuclear weapons

The Ukrainian army will not stop its offensive even if tactical nuclear weapons are used against it. weapons, Kyiv has a special plan for this case. This was stated by Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Oleksiy Danilov.

The head of the National Security and Defense Council promised in a few days to present a special action plan in case Russia uses tactical nuclear weapons against Ukraine. According to him, this will not stop the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the Ukrainian army will continue to "liberate" the "occupied" territories.

The possible use of nuclear weapons by the Russian Federation will not stop Ukraine in the defense of its territories. If there is no response from the world community, NATO to such a daring attack, it does not mean that we will not defend our land. Nobody can stop us

- Danilov said.

So far, one can only speculate about what kind of plan the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council is talking about and what it will consist of, but some experts say that we can talk about creating a "dirty" nuclear bomb. It is suggested that it is not in vain that the West, led by the United States, is inflating the topic of Russia's alleged use of nuclear weapons against Ukraine; information preparations are clearly being made for some high-profile event.

Meanwhile, rumors are already circulating in Kyiv itself that the US has approved a small nuclear program for Ukraine, and Ukrainian nuclear physicists are already working on a "dirty" bomb. And then, as if “accidentally”, a petition appeared on Zelensky’s website demanding to withdraw from the Budapest Memorandum and return nuclear status to Ukraine. And you can also ask the United States for a bomb, you see, an ally will not be refused.

Comments

[A1845]

The plan has long been known - to cover yourself with a white sheet and slowly crawl to the cemetery
why slowly? not to create panic

[AVA77]

It's just that crawling is boring, it's better to crawl through the store.

[4ekist]

Danilov promised to provide a plan of action in case of "use" of nuclear weapons by Russia

The best plan for Gopnik Danilov himself is to hang himself or he will be hanged.

[dmi.pris1]

Better let a bullet in the forehead, like the previous "gopnik" in 1945 ...

[Letun]

Quote: dmi.pris

Better let a bullet in the forehead, like the previous "gopnik" in 1945 ...

In order for the gopnik to put a bullet in his forehead in 45, the Red Army had to enter Berlin.

[1976AG]

Quote: Letun

Quote: dmi.pris

Better let a bullet in the forehead, like the previous "gopnik" in 1945 ...

In order for the gopnik to put a bullet in his forehead in 45, the Red Army had to enter Berlin.

But then we did not have Calibers and Iskanders. About Daggers and Zircons, I generally keep quiet.

[Alex777]

Less than a month is left before the strikes on the decision-making centers.
He is brave, while the APU grabs. When he arrives, he will calm down.

[Letun]

Quote: 1976AG

But then we did not have Calibers and Iskanders. About Daggers and Zircons, I generally keep quiet.

And there were no internets with turbo patriots, all those who won and shot bullets in the forehead from the sofa

[opuonmed]

sharia writes

And again, under the silence of the Russian side, the head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine announces the preparation of an exchange of all for all. That is already being prepared.

One could be skeptical about his statement, but the previous one about the "evacuation" was fully confirmed.

This means Kyiv will exchange + - 1000 for + -7000 from Moscow. Moreover, there is no talk of any release of the imprisoned "political" ones. General Budanov is in charge of the exchange in the full sense of the word.

Of course, the propagandists of the Russian Federation will be able to explain this to the Russians, remembering for the hundredth time the unfortunate Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit, for whom a million terrorists were exchanged, and telling a rather rotten story about how important every soldier is, that for him "a thousand is not a pity" .

The public will learn about the exchange from Ukrainian sources.

It is also interesting that such exchanges take place on the eve of important agreements and landmark negotiations.

WHAT do the parties agree on?

maybe desa maybe not!

[Zakirov Damir]

Quote: opuonmed

This means Kyiv will exchange + - 1000 for + -7000 from Moscow.

There are only 600 people from our side. Where does 1000 come from?

Quote: opuonmed

It is also interesting that such exchanges take place on the eve of important agreements and landmark negotiations.

1. What do you mean by "important agreements"?
2. What does "epoch-making negotiations" mean? Do not enlighten what kind of era has come?

I am from the Russian outback, the audience is stupid, and therefore I would like not florid forecasts, but specifics in our servile language!

It is clear that the tsar-father is not telling us something, and therefore, bowing down to the bottom, we ask you!

[opuonmed]

if I just wrote what I wrote Sharia, I wrote at the end perhaps misinformation!

[Zakirov Damir]

Quote: opuonmed

if I just wrote what I wrote Sharia, I wrote at the end perhaps misinformation!

And I already pulled off my hat from my head and bowed in the lowest way before a “knowledgeable” person, and you won, the same serf like me!

[Alex777]

Infa is roaming the internet. Why I bought it ... From the series, let's wait and see:

Valentina Matvienko boldly hinted that until October 4, "let the whole world wait."
But that's not the intrigue. The world will wait even longer if necessary, for example until November. There is a scenario for the adoption of new republics closer to November 8th.

There is a bargaining, negotiations until 3:00 3.10.22.
According to the plan (https://t.me/obrazbuduschego2/11396), told yesterday, in Riyadh and between Moscow and Washington via the traditional closed communication line. In Riyadh, representatives of the General Staff decide the fate of relations between Kyiv and Moscow in the event of a consensus between the Washington Regional Committee and the Kremlin. The fate of Zelensky, Yermak, Podolyak, Arakhamiya and the heads of all non-military law enforcement agencies, including the heads of the National Security and Defense Council and the Verkhovna Rada, are also being discussed.

Successful negotiations will end with the signing of a multilateral agreement between the US and the EU, the Russian Federation, and Ukraine, which will later be supported by the UN Security Council and the entire General Assembly.

If negotiations fail, a countdown can be launched.
Plan B for the world is not very fun.
In terms of a gloomy "final fantasy", the scenario of a big war could be like this.
The gas transportation system and thermal power plant will roll Ukraine back to the 18th century in one night - 24 hours to surrender.
No, that means the bridges across the Dnieper - 24 ultimatums. No, further 72 hours of rocket rain across Odessa and Nikolaev, before that, drones in groups will destroy the air defense of these regions, then landing in Odessa and a massive tank march with a fire shaft to Nikolaev and landing from Crimea to Pridnestrovie to the Tiraspol airfield.
Chances are good.
There is also a response to the inclusion of NATO.
Planes have been flying out of Belarus for a month now, rehearsing in squadrons to strike with a 25-kiloton hypersonic missile with a tactical nuclear part. This is in case they try to transfer PMCs and volunteer vacationers from the territory of Poland. Zelensky, Yermak and the Verkhovna Rada will become legitimate targets.
The United States can hit the Black Sea Fleet, but ships off the coast of Syria, in neutral waters, can hit TNWs on the LDNR, the territory of the Kherson region, including the ZNPP, with a wind rose in the horizon of 5-7 days in our direction.
But everyone knows how the Russian Federation will respond to this.
Exercises on rapid evacuation in case of the threat of nuclear strikes or man-made disasters are already underway in Poland, the Czech Republic, and the Baltic countries.

Who was talking about the Caribbean Crisis?
This one may be completely different, and never dreamed of.
May the negotiations be successful.

[Two]

There will be nothing, these cuckolds have been hitting the decision-making center for 3 months already (shaking the air) and at this time Ukraine and NATO are calmly hitting the Belgorod region of Kursk, they were inserted again, the pipes were broken, they are silent (probably liked it). The republics voted and that consider next week, maybe. Analyze and think about what to expect from them (what else a nuclear strike, this requires willpower, which they don’t have). he was also from the Caucasus), there are no more candidates (no accounts abroad, children inside the country, all his relatives inside the country and he takes care of the population and protects.)

[1976AG]

Quote: Alex777

Infa is roaming the internet. Why I bought it ... From the series, let's wait and see:

Valentina Matvienko boldly hinted that until October 4, "let the whole world wait."
But that's not the intrigue. The world will wait even longer if necessary, for example until November. There is a scenario for the adoption of new republics closer to November 8th.

There is a bargaining, negotiations until 3:00 3.10.22.
According to the plan (https://t.me/obrazbuduschego2/11396), told yesterday, in Riyadh and between Moscow and Washington via the traditional closed communication line. In Riyadh, representatives of the General Staff decide the fate of relations between Kyiv and Moscow in the event of a consensus between the Washington Regional Committee and the Kremlin. The fate of Zelensky, Yermak, Podolyak, Arakhamiya and the heads of all non-military law enforcement agencies, including the heads of the National Security and Defense Council and the Verkhovna Rada, are also being discussed.

Successful negotiations will end with the signing of a multilateral agreement between the US and the EU, the Russian Federation, and Ukraine, which will later be supported by the UN Security Council and the entire General Assembly.

If negotiations fail, a countdown can be launched.
Plan B for the world is not very fun.
In terms of a gloomy "final fantasy", the scenario of a big war could be like this.
The gas transportation system and thermal power plant will roll Ukraine back to the 18th century in one night - 24 hours to surrender.
No, that means the bridges across the Dnieper - 24 ultimatums. No, further 72 hours of rocket rain across Odessa and Nikolaev, before that, drones in groups will destroy the air defense of these regions, then landing in Odessa and a massive tank march with a fire shaft to Nikolaev and landing from Crimea to Pridnestrovie to the Tiraspol airfield.
Chances are good.
There is also a response to the inclusion of NATO.
Planes have been flying out of Belarus for a month now, rehearsing in squadrons to strike with a 25-kiloton hypersonic missile with a tactical nuclear part. This is in case they try to transfer PMCs and volunteer vacationers from the territory of Poland. Zelensky, Yermak and the Verkhovna Rada will become legitimate targets.
The United States can hit the Black Sea Fleet, but ships off the coast of Syria, in neutral waters, can hit TNWs on the LDNR, the territory of the Kherson region, including the ZNPP, with a wind rose in the horizon of 5-7 days in our direction.
But everyone knows how the Russian Federation will respond to this.
Exercises on rapid evacuation in case of the threat of nuclear strikes or man-made disasters are already underway in Poland, the Czech Republic, and the Baltic countries.

Who was talking about the Caribbean Crisis?
This one may be completely different, and never dreamed of.
May the negotiations be successful.

Excuse me, are you Tatyana for an hour? She also wrote long and stupid posts, and when it turned out that all this was crap, she suddenly disappeared somewhere.

[Alex777]

Are you like a stupid person?
I am not Tatyana's protector. And I do not share her views at all.
However, I want to draw your attention to the fact that she is an aged woman.
Its disappearance from the site should not be mocked. You can get into trouble.

[1976AG]

Quote: Alex777

Are you like a stupid person?
I am not Tatyana's protector. And I do not share her views at all.
However, I want to draw your attention to the fact that she is an aged woman.
Its disappearance from the site should not be mocked. You can get into trouble.

Yes, I'm not stupid, and therefore I know that she is the same Tatyana as you are Elena from Baku) Haven't you understood anything yet?)

[Alex777]

Quote: 1976AG

Yes, I'm not stupid and therefore I know that she is the same Tatyana as you are Elena from Baku)

Somehow we clashed with her on one "theological issue" ...
As a result, communication turned into a personal. It didn't last long. But you
with their peppy conclusions, they got past the cash register. Definitely.

[1976AG]

Quote: Alex777

Quote: 1976AG

Yes, I'm not stupid and therefore I know that she is the same Tatyana as you are Elena from Baku)

Somehow we clashed with her on one "theological issue" ...
As a result, communication turned into a personal. It didn't last long. But you
with their peppy conclusions, they got past the cash register. Definitely.

Yes, I believe you as well as her)) I caught her more than once in a lie, now here you are ...)) And how she tried to prove her involvement in the special services, the same is generally intoxication!)))

[Alex777]

Quote: 1976AG

Yes, I believe you as well as her)) I caught her more than once in a lie, now here you are ...))

Be proud of yourself, the winner of Tatyana, a Soviet pensioner ..

[1976AG]

Quote: Alex777

Quote: 1976AG

Yes, I believe you as well as her)) I caught her more than once in a lie, now here you are ...))

Be proud of yourself, the winner of the Soviet pensioner ..

Well, I didn’t defeat a Soviet pensioner .. although you have nothing to be ashamed of, you didn’t lose to an old woman ...

[Alex777]

You, apparently, have nothing to do in life, since you spent time on
repeated catching of Tatyana? got bored when her
didn't it happen here? And looking for someone to cling to? So it's not for me.

[1976AG]

Quote: Alex777

You, apparently, have nothing to do in life, since you spent time on
repeated catching of Tatyana? got bored when her
didn't it happen here? And looking for someone to cling to? So it's not for me.

No. I just work in the field of security and I understand something in this matter. In this case, there are only two options - either you did not see her, or she did not write the posts.

[Alexander Salenko]

Alena was from Baku, if you remembered the war in Karabakh.

[1976AG]

"For what I bought .."

Are you a grandmother at the entrance to spread rumors?

[Alex777]

Looks like I overestimated you a bit.

[1976AG]

Quote: Alex777

Looks like I overestimated you a bit.

similar)

[bayard]

And do you think we can agree?
And about what?
Without the disarmament of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the complete demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine, there can be no question of any security for Russia.
Truce and exchange "all for all"?
This will be a victory for Ukraine and a time to regroup, re-arm, build tighter air defenses and prepare for the continuation of the banquet.
So what can we negotiate today, against the backdrop of so many failures of the "Little Army" and extremely belated and "partial" mobilization?
Russia was presented with an ultimatum and lazy \ rotosey \ sybarites gain some kind of guarantees for themselves in case of surrender?

Indeed, Caribbean Crisis No. 2 was a success.
Meanwhile, the world is being stubbornly drawn into TMV.

[Alex777]

Quote: bayard

And do you think we can agree?
And about what?

Greetings buddy!
What I quoted piqued my interest because of the pause,
which unexpectedly appeared before 4.10. They promised that
everything will pass quickly, but there is an obvious shift in terms.

Quote: bayard

Without the disarmament of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the complete demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine, there can be no question of any security for Russia.

Of course.

Quote: bayard

Truce and exchange "all for all"?

This is possible if something acceptable is agreed upon.

Quote: bayard

So what can we negotiate today, against the backdrop of so many failures of the "Little Army" and extremely belated and "partial" mobilization?

As for me, the version of the demolition of the entire current leadership
404 - has the right to exist. Otherwise, we are talking about
it is impossible to achieve the goals of the SVO. However, underestimate
the enemy is also not worth it. They put everything on the line and nothing
alas, they did not achieve the supernatural for themselves. If those
units that went on the offensive were sitting in the city
building, we would not have passed them.
And now they are piling up in the fields. And they don't see a replacement.
The enemy thinks ahead and understand that they will not achieve more.
And before the elections, the clock is ticking. They rush to become peacekeepers.

Quote: bayard

Russia was presented with an ultimatum and lazy \ rotosey \ sybarites gain some kind of guarantees for themselves in case of surrender?

This is not the GDP to capitulate. That's why I appreciate him.

[bayard]

Quote: Alex777

They promised that
everything will pass quickly, but there is an obvious shift in terms.

They have blown up pipelines on the bowl, the ongoing offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the threat of dirty nuclear bombs ... and what about us?
Mobilization of 300 thousand?
Which will be ready in a couple of months?

Quote: Alex777

As for me, the version of the demolition of the entire current leadership
404 - has the right to exist.

Well, they will put a general in power, what will change then?
And the general said that the war would continue anyway.
What kind of Russian security can we talk about? What was it all for? For the sake of what did they pull the cat by the genitals for 7 months with mobilization, bleeding their Army and corps of Donbass?

Quote: Alex777

If those
units that went on the offensive were sitting in the city
building, we would not have passed them.

That's why they left the cities because they were already ready to attack. And they do not take into account losses at all. Arestovich announced his intention to mobilize another million before the end of the year / deadline until spring.

Quote: Alex777

The enemy thinks ahead and understand that they will not achieve more.

And they intend to fight. And already before his "victory". Any pause im for amplification. And our authorities missed the time for mobilization and now only hold the front and catch up in mobilization ...
I got a call today and was advised to leave Donetsk ... in view of the upcoming.

Quote: Alex777

This is not the GDP to capitulate.

Then you need to FIGHT, and not fly in the clouds.
Today Donetsk was covered again. And in some towers they started talking, "Why do we need Donbass?" . The deadlines for admission to the Russian Federation have been postponed.

[Alex777]

Quote: bayard

Mobilization of 300 thousand?
Which will be ready in a couple of months?

Do you believe in the number 300? Me not. I think that many times more.
Judging by Khodakovsky's stories, they are already doing so. Some...

Quote: bayard

For the sake of what did they pull the cat by the genitals for 7 months with mobilization, bleeding their Army and corps of Donbass?

You yourself wrote that MI6 was ahead of the curve on a number of issues.
I was just in September and was waiting for changes in actions.
War rarely goes according to plan. And the enemy is strong.
The question is not who will be appointed, but with what task.
The enemy also has many failures in his plans. This is fine.

Quote: bayard

That's why they left the cities because they were already ready to attack.
And they do not take into account losses at all.

Arestovich will say anything. So what?

Quote: bayard

And they intend to fight. And already before his "victory".

Peace and only peace.

Quote: bayard

I got a call today and was advised to leave Donetsk ... in view of the upcoming.

The question is - who advised?

Quote: bayard

Today Donetsk was covered again. And in some towers they started talking, "Why do we need Donbass?" . The deadlines for admission to the Russian Federation have been postponed.

It is impossible for Russia to abandon 4 regions. Sure.
They talked about postponing the referendums, but they held them in a hurry.
I do not expect zrada with acceptance. But nobody canceled the auction.

[bayard]

Quote: Alex777

Do you believe in the number 300? Me not. I think that many times more.

Yes, of course, this is only the first wave, because mobilization should be carried out in waves - they prepared the first wave, the call for the next one. So for the new year it will be possible to call up to a million fresh bayonets. This is taking into account the order of the Supreme High Command to increase the number of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation by 135 thousand people. before mobilization. And by spring, all this mass will be quite ready for combat use.
But the lack of l \ s is felt right now. That's why the first mobiles are already arriving. No one will immediately send them into battle (although there have already been foolish attempts), they seem to be going to use them first to control the occupied territories, in the second and third echelons. Until they gain experience and get used to the theater.

Quote: Alex777

You yourself wrote that MI6 was ahead of the curve on a number of issues.

This is true . But it seems that everyone knew / guessed about it in advance ... except for the towers. Not only did they go on an adventure, but the reserves were not prepared ahead of time, and they were not prepared for 7 months. And as a result - a lag in the pace of mobilization for at least half a year. This is a lot. And leave again on heroism.

Quote: Alex777

Arestovich will say anything. So what?

Yes, the fact of the matter is that if they start (and they have already started) new waves of mobilization, then before the new year they will also call for another 1 million. By spring - one and a half. They have no maxims - they will rake in everyone, including the disabled and women. And during this time they will be supplied with NATO air defense. Let the old (relatively) complexes, but they will be able to thoroughly saturate the theater. And by the time we are ready, they will also be ready. For we have lost the initiative until the new year or even until spring. Now we are only reacting. And they beat their numerical advantage very well.
But they are gradually leveling the qualitative gap with Western supplies and the accumulation of combat experience l / s.
We will now have fresh mobiles coming to the fronts, and they already have fired on and with combat experience 2 times more than we will only have in a couple of months. It is impossible to attack with such a quality of infantry, readiness will be achieved only in the spring ... Such is the mobilization arithmetic.
Moreover, instructors from all over NATO and in NATO countries train their fighters. And our training centers are ... ready for such a regime and QUALITY of work?
And all this is the result of the mistakes of the pre-war / special operations period.
And we will know their price only in the future.

Quote: Alex777

Peace and only peace.

Yes, I mean that their successes inspired them, and now they can only be broken and crushed to the end. The degree of bloodiness of this conflict will grow many times ... if not an order of magnitude. And this is if without tricks and outside interference.

Quote: Alex777

I do not expect zrada with acceptance.

Yes, I don’t expect either, but the very fact of delays and “strange conversations from the towers” ​​... is annoying. There were many changes in my memory.

[Alex777]

Quote: bayard

The deadlines for admission to the Russian Federation have been postponed.

While driving to the office, I received a message that tomorrow will be
blocking of streets in Moscow. It seems like under the circulation of the GDP.

[bayard]

Well, yes, everything seems to have already arrived from ours.

[1976AG]

That's right, before the destruction of Ukraine, it is urgent to change everyone for everyone .. There will no longer be such an opportunity.

[1976AG]

Excuse me, but who is Shariy? ...............................

[Atlant-1164]

"Do they have a plan..Mr. Fix?"

[AlexTires]

Keep the machine gun at outstretched arms so that the melting metal does not damage government boots

[Negruz]

Zombie attack live - brrr...

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

Russia's possible use of nuclear weapons will not stop Ukraine

***
- In the mouth of the front! ...

***

[Gekki66]

Actions when using nuclear weapons have long been voiced in an old, bearded joke: Wrap yourself in a white sheet and crawl to the nearest cemetery, while holding the machine gun at outstretched arms.
PS: and according to the subject, listen to the GDP about the "wind rose"))

[TatarinSSSR]

It is necessary to offer Mexico, Cuba, Venezuela and others to also buy a couple of nuclear bombs from us, in the name of protection from the neighbor's hegemon.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: TatarinSSSR

It is necessary to offer Mexico, Cuba, Venezuela and others to also buy a couple of nuclear bombs from us, in the name of protection from the neighbor's hegemon.

You can give it as a gift .... Why waste time on trifles ... Won three hundred billion bucks of the people gave for nothing! And here, for the benefit of the common cause ... And the UWB will be sad right away ... quietly adjust ten pieces like that .... Like, they brought several Pushkin monuments as a gift ... Mexico, Cuba, Venezuela

[Metallurg_2]

The Ukrainian army will not stop its offensive even if tactical nuclear weapons are used against it

This is in the event that there is someone to attack.

[ovod84]

go to Europe or sit out in a bunker, these are the plans of the higher ones, but I hope there will be no nuclear war

[Alien From]

In light of recent events, a nuclear strike no longer looks wild. It's certainly a one way ticket though. Forcing

[Zakirov Damir]

Quote: Alien From

In light of recent events, a nuclear strike no longer looks wild. It's certainly a one way ticket though. Forcing

The West has long defined a one-way ticket for us.

We just need to notify Europe that the place for them is also booked. Together with Europe is more fun, but God loves a trinity!

[Alien From]

Not funny of course, but unfortunately true!

[voyaka uh]

"Although this is of course a one-way ticket. They force a request" ///
----
No one is forcing Russia to arrange a nuclear apocalypse and suicide.
Stop playing geopolitics like a hundred or two hundred years ago.
We need to start peace talks, not ruin Russia
finally mobilization, which anyway will not help in the war. Several thousand more Russians will die in vain.
And there will be borders until 24.02.
Negotiations can save both the Crimea and the republics of Donbass, if you do not go for broke.

[forty-eighth]

The option is incredible. If our valiant diplomatic department had not driven us into deep isolation, then theoretically it would still be possible to bargain through intermediaries. I see no chance of reaching an agreement directly.

[voyaka uh]

For Ukraine, the return to the borders "before February 24.02" is a clear victory. (Although today, on the wave of offensives,
they talk about more).
And for Russia - a fighting draw.
If you come to an agreement with Zelensky, then everyone will approve - both the Americans and Europe.
And gradually begin to lift sanctions and isolation.

[Rosemary]

Yeah, sanctions and isolation will begin to lift exactly what "gradually". How "gradually" the sanctions and isolation introduced by the Jackson-Vanik Amendment, which the United States introduced in 1974 against the USSR in response to restricting the emigration of Jews from the Soviet Union, were lifted.
In 1989, the USSR lifted all restrictions on the emigration of Jews, and in 1991 the USSR also disappeared. And although a moratorium has been introduced on this amendment every year since 1989, it was only in 2012 that it was possible to persuade the US Congress to repeal the Jackson-Vanik amendment in relation to Russia.

[Alex777]

Quote: voyaka uh

And for Russia - a fighting draw.

You have long and strongly broken away from Russia, you do not understand the mood in the country.
There is no "combat draw" for us. And the clown will never be the winner.
Let him try to survive until the New Year. We'll see soon. Not long left.

[Wildcat]

Short:
The position of Ukraine is "to leave the territory of Ukraine, then negotiations, then reparations."
The position of the Russian Federation - "We have not started yet. We still have 25 million people in the mobile reserve."

With such initial data, there can be no successful negotiations, "clear victories" and "combat draws". The maximum is the actual temporary fixation of positions, based on the possibilities of attack and defense.

The situation will change after New Year and March 2023 ("oil embargo"), which is already clear with gas (for gas, even the possibility of resuming supplies is now technically impossible, what a surprise, for a possible peace with the EU).

The issue of budget deficits for 2022 (yes, already) and 2023: "The government has set a deficit budget until 2025. The government has prepared a plan for a three-year budget with a deficit, said Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin."
https://www.rbc.ru/economics/20/09/2022/6329bcf39a794741509265f9"
Well, mobilization and its consequences.

Sanctions will not be lifted in the foreseeable future, under any scenario in the Russian Federation. Even with the fantastic-incredible: "Aleksey the blogger is free, again he writes videos for YouTube."

Two approaches to the USSR / RF - "containment" and "co-optation" - have been fighting with each other since the days of the USSR, the German position "co-optation, let's include the USSR / RF in world trade and exchange of information, rich countries and democracies do not fight" is slowly winning .
The "romance to love without ties" between the West and the Russian Federation represented by "Gorbi and Yeltsin" is over.
Now there is no talk of this (co-optation), and after the inclusion of new territories in the Russian Federation, the position of the West, IMHO, will become even tougher. Every day the position of the West will be tougher.

What will happen is, in principle, clear. The question is the timing and internal consequences for the Russian Federation.

[voyaka uh]

The whole war rests on the decision of just one single person.

[Wildcat]

You're simplifying things a bit.

There is, IMHO, even more radical than the voiced position of Putin, a group of people.
Quite influential, mind you, a group of people, and almost all armed, which believes that the NWO is being conducted too softly. Its most notable representatives are Strelkov or a milder version - Fighting Cat Murz.
With a certain stretch, our fellow forum member M Klimov can also be attributed to this group. By the way, he wrote here more than once that, in his opinion, is happening wrong. You can watch the conversation between Klimov and Strelkov on YouTube, it's informative.

[Rosemary]

Quote: Wildcat

There is, IMHO, even more radical than the voiced position of Putin, a group of people.
Quite influential, mind you, a group of people, and almost all armed, which believes that the NWO is being conducted too softly. Its most notable representatives are Strelkov or a milder version - Fighting Cat Murz.

This is a very influential group. When making important decisions, Putin is always interested in: "What do Strelkov and Fighting Cat Murz think about this?"

[Alexey_Kalashnikov]

Well, I laughed. Thank you. Pulled back a little. So far, there is no need to talk about the Strelkovites - they are outcasts. But personally, I like them the most. I really want to believe that their time will come. STRELKOV WE ARE WITH YOU!!!

[Alexander Salenko]

No, Voyaka, to remind Yushchenko that Russia pays little for renting the Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol? And how much hysteria there was that Yanukovych extended the lease from 2017 to 2044, I don’t remember exactly now.

[Alex777]

Quote: voyaka uh

Stop playing geopolitics like a hundred or two hundred years ago.
We need to start peace talks, not ruin Russia

If Israeli generals thought like that, Israel would no longer exist.

[1976AG]

Quote: voyaka uh

"Although this is of course a one-way ticket. They force a request" ///
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No one is forcing Russia to arrange a nuclear apocalypse and suicide.
Stop playing geopolitics like a hundred or two hundred years ago.
We need to start peace talks, not ruin Russia
finally mobilization, which anyway will not help in the war. Several thousand more Russians will die in vain.
And there will be borders until 24.02.
Negotiations can save both the Crimea and the republics of Donbass, if you do not go for broke.

You all said very correctly, only Zelensky disagrees with you ((
And the borders will be until December 1922.

[Alexander Salenko]

Warrior, you are an intelligent person and you say that. It was with us that they played geopolitics, and not vice versa.

[1976AG]

Quote: Alien From

In light of recent events, a nuclear strike no longer looks wild. It's certainly a one way ticket though. Forcing

The only question is where exactly to strike nuclear weapons. Hitting the adjacent territory is not the best way out, but hitting the USA or Britain is PPC for everyone, including us. And do we need it?

[forty-eighth]

The information agenda is developing according to Saddam's scenario.
Soon it will no longer be applicable or not applicable, they will create a background and arrange a provocation if we do not use tiao.

[SKVichyakow]

And these institutions are still functioning? Is there something wrong here?

[Man from afar]

Ukrov have a short memory. It was after such statements on their part that theirs began. And now we have a reason to continue it until the complete cessation of the existence of the Ukrainian SSR as a mad mongrel on a leash from mattress covers.

[aleksr2005]

A source in the OP said that Zaluzhny reported to Zelensky about the full readiness of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for a strike on the eastern front, additional reserves were transferred to Kharkov. Within a week, a new counteroffensive will begin, which should allow the Ukrainian army to break through to Lugansk.

I hope our people know and are ready for this, otherwise we will disgrace ourselves completely.

[Alex777]

You do not allow the probability of a bluff?

[Buyan]

What this figure is talking about is incomprehensible, just a set of letters, but how their society eats it all - hair stand on end

[opposite28]

The possible use of nuclear weapons by the Russian Federation will not stop Ukraine in the defense of its territories. If there is no response from the world community, NATO to such a daring attack, it does not mean that we will not defend our land. Nobody can stop us

What a dreamer, the Ukrainian dream is limitless.

[former soldier]

Apparently they are preparing a provocation in order to later declare the culprit of the Russian Federation.

[former soldier]

The Ukrainian army will not stop its offensive even if tactical nuclear weapons are used against it, Kyiv has a special plan for this case. This was stated by Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Oleksiy Danilov.

All clear. The worse the situation on the fronts for the Sumerians, the greater the likelihood of a dirty (or maybe not dirty) nuclear charge being detonated on the territory of Ukraine. Yes. I want to swear three-story.

[Skif]

I don't think the plan will help. Even special. Support tactical nuclear weapons and heroin will not play.

[Crisp]

This old club does not understand that with one blow, if anything, we will not stop. A dozen will destroy all who still walk the earth. Him first.

[Vladimir61]

A smart plan from the veterinarian - "If the boar does not die by December, we will slaughter! If it dies, we will sell ...".

[iouris]

Ukrainians are running out. The new ones won't be coming soon. They will ask for a break until the summer.

[the same doctor]

Ours are foolish again. There is no way to clearly indicate that we will use nuclear weapons in Ukraine only against Western troops and Western weapons. There will be no NATO divisions, missiles and radar stations - there will be no tactical nuclear weapons.
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Or are the political impotents in the Kremlin really so weak that they are trying to bargain for another "negotiations" with vague hints and threats with a nuclear baton? Like in February - March, when their cowardice stole our victory.
So it's useless. Ukrainians will not put up. They can only be destroyed and put their own government in Kyiv.

[1976AG]

Quote: also a doctor

Ours are foolish again. There is no way to clearly indicate that we will use nuclear weapons in Ukraine only against Western troops and Western weapons. There will be no NATO divisions, missiles and radar stations - there will be no tactical nuclear weapons.
.
Or are the political impotents in the Kremlin really so weak that they are trying to bargain for another "negotiations" with vague hints and threats with a nuclear baton? Like in February - March, when their cowardice stole our victory.
So it's useless. Ukrainians will not put up. They can only be destroyed and put their own government in Kyiv.

And you really are a doctor too. One of the many who got a crust, but no mind. Otherwise, how can we allow the use of nuclear weapons in the immediate vicinity of our borders? Well, if only to use the NATO doctrine based on the US logic that the use of tactical nuclear weapons in Europe will not harm the US. And here to us what reason to infect ourselves? Are you out of your mind for this question? Hence the conclusion - we do not have impotents in the Kremlin, but you are weak-minded, but these are already your sexual difficulties.

[fiv]

For some reason, while we remember that Russia is a nuclear power, we are being quietly yelled at - Nord Streams, Swifts, and so on. Like a knight with a two-handed sword attacked by mice. I really hope that things change drastically. Or do we have only oak military commissars left in the stash?

[1976AG]

And where did our omniscient Tatyana go? Will he not receive instructions from the SBU? She seems to have always been the smartest and most knowledgeable, but here she hasn’t been seen for a long time ... Did the FSB end up in the dungeons?

[Alexander Salenko]

I have one question: what does the National Security and Defense Council have to do with the army? Danilov does not solve such problems.

[fiberboard]

Were they crazy or what? What kind of nuclear weapons to use in Ukraine? This is not Poland, Britain, USA.

[ivan2022]

Quote: 1976A

But then we did not have Calibers and Iskanders. About Daggers and Zircons, I generally keep quiet.

First, no one had them then. Conversely, the US had an atomic bomb in 1945, but we didn't have one.

Secondly, then, in 1945, our society was different. Basically - mentally normal.

This can be seen from Soviet films and newsreels. Despite the posterity and sketchiness of the characters, they understood the most important thing: the difference between Good and Evil. And even such traitors as Vlasov could not break such a society.

And in our "new history" only the crazy drunk Yeltsin turned out in 1991 to be stronger than all atomic missiles and strategic submarines.

With "Zircon" it's even worse than without it, if some cretin takes it and sighs from the bulldozer in Voronezh or Moscow, instead of Washington.

I already saw on VO the comments of one half-fool who seriously wrote that you can gasp in Moscow, because there are "few Russians" .....

[Hitriy Zhuk]

Quote: ivan2022

And in our "new history" only the crazy drunk Yeltsin turned out in 1991 to be stronger than all atomic missiles and strategic submarines.

Well, do not talk about "one".
There, many scurried or crap one's pants.
These are all "to the party for nishtyaks", houses for party members, special shops and other things have already been hinted at.

Okay, not the fact that they sold out, everything rotted.
Well, half or even less.

Where were the rest? I remind you that in one party alone there were a million people.
Almost everyone served in the army, GB, let's say the generals were bought, but there are a huge number of officers.
And what is the result? Sluggish swarming and an attempt to defend the Palace of Soviets, already in 1993.

As a result, almost everything, by action or inaction, brought the end closer.
Especially in 1990-1993.

Without the recognition of this nationwide school - do not move further, we will attack again.

[spectr]

but some experts say that we can talk about creating a "dirty" nuclear bomb

In this case, the hysterical dances around the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant on the part of Ukraine make sense. And it also looks more logical that, despite the difficult situation in the Kharkiv region, nothing is being removed from the Kherson direction.
I wonder just who gave them and prepared the necessary equipment for production? I would bet on the French or the British.

[Hitriy Zhuk]

What equipment is there?
You take spent fuel and put FAB-9000 on it, roughly speaking.
In theory, anyone who has a nuclear power plant and the waste of its activities, plus a lot of explosives, can.

[spectr]

May be. In my opinion, due to our air defense, air delivery may not work. But the rocket is complete. Only now it will not work to overlay the rocket, there it is already necessary to lay the spent fuel inside so that the rocket fits into the installation, and the aerodynamic characteristics so that they are not violated. And since they use NATO missiles, it turns out they need to open these missiles and replace the warhead. I can't imagine how it can be done on the knee.

[Hitriy Zhuk]

Not at all.
They don't need to be taken anywhere.
These nuclear power plants will blow up.
Or, roughly speaking, lobes / containers will be loaded with trucks, waste / rods and explosives will be brought to one place, and that's it.
Repulsed there.

[iouris]

To whom and what else needs to be clarified? The Nobel Peace Prize will no longer be given.

[Hitriy Zhuk]

NSDC Secretary Danilov promised

Listen, right?
Author, you specify whose that NSDC.

And that confuses.

[EMMM]

Napoleon has been found! But who needs the Ukrainian state. Everything has already been stolen, and the functionals are only looking for the moment to fade. Only here without the permission of the owner will not work.