Podolyak, adviser to the head of Zelensky's office, named two conditions for the complete victory of the Armed Forces of Ukraine over the Russian army

In Ukraine, two conditions have finally been determined, under which the Armed Forces of Ukraine will certainly win the war and liberate not only the "occupied" regions, but also reach the 1991 borders. This was stated by adviser to the head of the office of the President of Ukraine Mikhail Podolyak.

According to him, in order to win the war against Russia, Ukraine needs to get as much Western equipment as possible, and then take Donetsk and Lugansk. After the capture of these cities, the allied forces will "fall in" and in 3-3,5 months the war will end with the complete victory of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the liberation of all territories, including Crimea.

After the fall of Luhansk and Donetsk, 3-3,5 months and the war will finally end in the completely liberated territories of Ukraine, within the borders of 1991

- said Yermak's adviser, although he did not specify when the Armed Forces of Ukraine are going to take Donetsk and Lugansk.

Earlier, Zelensky, whose rhetoric has recently become too belligerent, also announced plans to "recapture" all the territories allegedly "occupied" by Russia. He daily writes down "appeals to the people", in which he promises not only to "liberate" the entire Ukrainian territory, but almost to conquer Moscow. Moreover, after the start of partial mobilization in Russia, he suddenly remembered the Russian language and began to address Russian military personnel, promising "life in a democratic and free society" if they quit weapon and will go over to the side of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then frightening with all sorts of punishments if they "resist" the Ukrainian army.

Meanwhile, according to Kyiv, Russia allegedly "puts under arms" 2 million military men in order to defeat the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Zelensky made such a statement two days ago, talking about the partial mobilization that had begun in Russia. By making such a statement, the Ukrainian president is laying a straw for himself in advance so that after Russia's victory he will say that he "warned".

Comments

[Ivan Ivanov]

With our inhibitory reaction, we give saloreich a chance, which is why we got so excited.

[Wesker gorlovka]

They gave them a turn around from 2014. And it was just necessary to give ours the opportunity to move on after Ilovaisk.
Yes, at least after Debaltseve.

[smershxnumx]

yes, it was necessary to immediately develop success and crush the ukroreich in the bud ... but ... it turned out, how it happened ... unfortunately ....

[impostor]

If Sasha, Arsen and Misha had been saved, everything could have been different...

[invisible_man]

Yes, at least after Debaltseve.

Yes, at least armored vehicles were thrown into Slavyansk at one time, and not one tank from the Second World War from the pedestal.

[nordscout]

The feeling of "healthy (???), probably, stupidity", "indifference", brought up by the internal policy of the State and our international policy, in those years, in the style of "a la cat Leopold", did not allow to make a "throw at Kyiv" (possibly to Lvov) and strangle the fascist reptile .... Nothing personal, just a "cold" analysis of what happened .... Something like that .. Although ...

[Plate]

Quote: Wesker Gorlovka

They gave them a turn around from 2014. And it was just necessary to give ours the opportunity to move on after Ilovaisk.

LDNR alone would not have defeated Ukraine under any circumstances. 2 regions against the whole country, in which there are dozens of the same regions. No chance. I believe that in 2014 either an open entry of the RF Armed Forces into Ukraine, or the option that was implemented: a freeze. The LDNR war alone would not have been done.
But whether it was worth entering in 2014 or not, this is already a much more complicated topic. Without spreading, I will express my opinion. No, it wasn't worth it.

[AAK]

2014 has nothing to do with it at all - at the beginning of March, our troops were on the territory of 6 regions of Ukraine (excluding Donetsk and Lugansk), after 8 months we remain on the territory (incomplete) of only 2 regions ... thanks to outstanding administrators, brave commanders and skillful Russian diplomats!

[guest]

In what areas were our troops? List to me these 6 regions and our main division located there.

[guest]

If it wasn’t worth it then, then it’s even more so not worth entering now? Can you clarify your opinion?

[Plate]

Yes, it was worth the wait before going there. Putin, as for me, correctly said that the West is in crisis and needs to be reset again at someone's expense. Since 2014, he has had a little more problems than it was then. And then they would continue to accumulate. Ideally, it would be to wait for some kind of explosive economic crisis, and then start. Right before the crisis, so that everyone forgets about Ukraine against the backdrop of the crisis, and not vice versa. But alas, it happened as it happened.
And the factor of hypersonic missiles, for sure, is not the last. I would not risk climbing on aircraft carriers, honestly. But if the designers give you a rocket and swear that it will break through any missile defense system, then you can already get drunk.

[guest]

Quote: Plate

Yes, it was worth the wait before going there.

And how long did you have to wait? All these 8 years, Ukraine was armed and trained according to NATO standards. Most importantly, all this time a special Russophobia has been nurtured, and if now we weren’t greeted with flowers, then after a while they would have been greeted even worse.

[Plate]

They would have met the same way. That 8 years ago, that 8 years ahead. I’m sure they would have entered 2014, they would have been surprised at the resistance just as they were surprised in 2022. And they would begin to argue that it was necessary to enter the zero. So in this regard, nothing is lost and nothing is gained.
As for the supply of weapons, I agree, but here's an interesting fact: almost everything delivered to Ukraine as a result was delivered after the start of the NWO. That is, again, in this regard, in case of expectation of a loss, it would not have been serious.

[guest]

No, in 2014 there were quite a few pro-Russian activists in the regions of Novorossiya, and the anti-Maidan protests in Kharkov and Odessa should not be forgotten. In Kyiv, and even more so in the west, they were met in the same way, but now we are not talking about these regions. Ukraine was littered with javelins, stingers and many other "toys" even before the start of the NWO.

[Metallurg_2]

It is impossible: "partners" were against

[Turtle]

Gestures of goodwill, muddy agreements, yes, partners, fuck them for a bottle ...

[ilya.muromczev2013]

Where could we move in 2014? If for the war with Georgia in 2008 they collected combat-ready units from all over Russia. Only after that they began to produce new weapons, and began to revive the army. Something decent has already been drawn in Syria. And only now we have a really combat-ready army ...

[guest]

Quote: ilya.muromczev2013

And only now we have a really combat-ready army ...

Did she show up? After Lyman, doubts about this began to take shape.

[Imperium_Aeterna]

So, the encirclement of the Red Estuary is being prepared, Pegov says that we are retreating from Kupyansk.
What was the initial plan of the enemy - to recruit a horde, arm, prepare and at the right time throw it to the front in order to knock out a strategic initiative. The time from the start of recruitment to entry into battle is 4-6 months. I remember six months ago someone wrote about it here - everyone laughed together over this ... In fact, it happened.
Oh well.
What to do and what not to do:
1) We are critically late planning, general. SVO ended in fact at the end of March. Even then it was clear that it was necessary to declare, if not war, then WHO. Recruit personnel, mobilize.
- In reality, until the last, they hoped that it would blow over, everything would fall apart by itself.
The enemy (NATO + APU) were one step ahead in planning. The Russian Federation was late in making decisions. Now it is necessary to declare not WHO, but war.
Or seriously consider the issue of using nuclear weapons, conduct field tests.

2) It is useless to hysteria about the talents of the General Staff of the RF Ministry of Defense. No power means no power. Tanks, guns do not fire on their own - about 10 people are needed for each tank (4 crew + 5-6 in the rear - logistics, logistics, reconnaissance, support). Artillery - in general, everything is 15-20 (5-7 crew + carrier + MTO + reconnaissance, rear). If you want 10 guns like in the Second World War, find 000-150 thousand. person (on art only).
NO TALENTS GSH AND no planning will save here if you do not have the strength and, what is important, relatively well-trained.
3) Not giving a damn about everything to destroy ALL infrastructure in Ukraine. Without any restrictions and with the risks of strikes on the territory of the Russian Federation. They are not afraid of any threats and just peck without looking at anyone.

In a word, we ourselves deliberately drove the situation into complete shit out of good and humane motives. As a result, the mobilization was still carried out. You may level out the numbers, but in the end, you have more people with combat experience.

[nordscout]

Dear "Imperium_Aeterna"! How I would like your words to be heard ..... But it seems that VO is not held in high esteem there .... This publication seems to have been created as a valve for the release of "people's (national) steam", I admit that, from time to time, VO is used to monitor philistine opinion, nothing more .... Good luck to all of us who are trying to convey "the voice of one crying in the wilderness" (see the Old Testament, the prophet Isaiah), through VO to decision makers, or, at least analyzing what is happening in the Ukrainian theater of operations ...

[Maria69]

Yes, the third point should have been activated long ago, from the moment Kyiv began to receive weapons actively. and now, if there is anything, we should begin to destroy the transport hubs, which are known without the possibility of an early recovery. plus a partial humanitarian catastrophe through the destruction of thermal power plants and hydroelectric power stations.

[guest]

Quote from: Imperium_Aeterna

NO TALENTS GSH And no planning will save here

Come on, if the General Staff is not capable of the most elementary things, like destroying the ways to deliver weapons to the front and hitting enemy decision-making centers.

[1976AG]

They don't learn anything. Greed has always ruined the fraer.

[dmi.pris1]

This is not greed. We just showed weakness. And in the world only strength is respected

[Boniface]

I look in SaloReikh clothes "ala bum" - like rogues in sweatshirts and T-shirts of an incomprehensible color!

[Wesker gorlovka]

And you remember how Parashenka copied Putin, flying on an airplane. Putin himself flew, it's with the pilot, it looked just miserable.

[BABAY22]

Quote: Wesker Gorlovka

Putin himself flew, the same with the pilot, it looked just miserable.

Well, legends are best left for elementary school courage lessons...
You can not just take and fly on a combat fighter.
There, in the first cabin, I think, was the head of the Lipetsk center for combat use and retraining of flight personnel, General Kharchevsky, and in the second cabin, the President of the Russian Federation.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Wesker Gorlovka

Do you remember how Parashenka copied Putin while flying on an airplane. Putin himself flew, it's with the pilot, it just looked miserable.

Now, after your comment, I’m already amused - I imagined Poroshenko with a naked torso on horseback, in judogi on tatami and on ice, on skates.
It's hard to think of anything more ridiculous.

[Alexander Grigoryev_2]

In the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the equipment is much better than ours. And massively. Conclusions must be drawn, not hated.

[Vladislav_2]

ZeleVova shared a joint with you before the vyser? .... after the referendum, regular troops will enter the territory and clean up such ghoul speakers like you and people like you

[evgen1221]

Another Napoleon unfinished. How many of these have already been.

[Pereira]

And what is wrong? Good plan. To win, you have to kill everyone.
Every Neanderthal knows this. Just don't pass it off as your own wisdom.

[Govorun]

Podolyak, adviser to the head of Zelensky's office, named two conditions for the complete victory of the Armed Forces of Ukraine over the Russian army

But everything for the Armed Forces of Ukraine will go according to option 3 ... SURRENDER of Ukraine

[guest]

It would be desirable, but it is necessary to start fighting already for this.

[Kesha1980]

To maintain objectivity, I suggest that the editors of VO publish ALL photographs of Ukrainian and European "talking heads" with an open mouth (preferably with the letter "O"). This is precisely what realism and objectivity are, for the way it is.

[HAM]

Eight years "took" the Donbass, and now in three months they decided .....

[iouris]

Specialists will be assigned to the equipment, otherwise it will not go anywhere and will not be able to shoot. So ahead of us is the imminent full-scale intervention of the United States in the next month and a half.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

- Yermak's adviser said, though he did not specify when the Armed Forces of Ukraine are going to take Donetsk and Luhansk

***
- He hasn't taken a shack yet...
***

[Mwg]

"... in order to win the war against Russia, Ukraine needs to get as much Western equipment as possible" and a Klingon cruiser to boot

[rotfuks]

forelocks again in search of a wunderwaffe.

[Petr_Koldunov]

We are reaping the fruits of our peacefulness and generosity in Debaltsevo, Izvarino and Ilovaisk in 2014! Already then it was possible and it was necessary to solve this question forever. And there would be no such sanctions, and Nazism would be destroyed, and historically Russian lands would return home!

[Egoza]

Quote: Peter_Koldunov

We are reaping the fruits of our peacefulness and generosity in Debaltsevo, Izvarino and Ilovaisk in 2014! Already then it was possible and it was necessary to solve this issue forever

And Strelkov could not be removed. And then, instead of help, they sent ......."...." So they flunked everything that the volunteers did! Minsk-1, Minsk-2. But then the people would really meet with flowers. The Banderaites have not yet turned to their fullest. And even in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, many doubted how to shoot Russians and where are these terrorists.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Egoza

Minsk-1, Minsk-2. But then the people would really meet with flowers. The Banderaites have not yet turned to their fullest. And even in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, many doubted how to shoot Russians and where are these terrorists.

I remembered one video of those times, walking on the Internet -

Pay attention to the date.
And now these girls have grown up, gave birth to Bandera from Bandera, and I doubt very much that they will raise their children in any other way.

I mean, not in 2014 it was necessary to strangle Bandera, but in 91. Everything comes from there, even from Kuchma. Banderostan raised two generations in hatred for us. Now it is useless to show the Banderaites, in Kyiv and in the west of Ukraine, how good it is to live in Russia. Burn out Bandera with napalm.

[guest]

Quote: Zoldat_A

I mean, not in 2014 it was necessary to strangle Bandera, but in 91.

Actually, it was necessary back in the 50s and 60s, but Khrushchev turned out to be a humanist.

[Plate]

Quote: Peter_Koldunov

And there would be no such sanctions

There would be. Exactly the same. Why do you think not?

[Anton Boldakov]

I think that Russia will mobilize a million soldiers in any way. + more volunteers who do not stop recruiting.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

The funny thing is that 85 percent of the citizens will believe in this.

[Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich]

Maybe stop talking about the "fraternal people"? Maybe it's time to burn Kuiv, Lvov, Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk and other hotbeds of Benderism with nuclear strikes?

[Plate]

Uncle, take a glass of cool water and drink it. Go outside and breathe in the air. Walk slowly. It will get better. If your head hurts, take a sip of paracetamol or just lie down to sleep. Please don't put forward only proposals for arranging genocide.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich

Maybe stop talking about the "fraternal people"? Maybe it's time to burn Kuiv, Lvov, Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk and other hotbeds of Benderism with nuclear strikes?

Quote: Plate

Please don't put forward only proposals for arranging genocide.

With us, this is said by an unknown uncle in VO. And in Ukraine, the “woman with a scythe” Timoshenko said the same thing about us on the Maidan back in 2014.
In principle, she is not alone, many ukrodeyateli have noted such ideas. She was remembered for the fact that she said it almost word for word.

[Plate]

Quote: Zoldat_A

With us, this is said by an unknown uncle in VO. And in Ukraine, the “woman with a scythe” Timoshenko said the same thing about us on the Maidan back in 2014.

Yes, I agree, in Ukraine this case was launched not in a childish way, and now it will have to be etched out. But do not slide down to their level? The more unknown uncles with such views, the greater the chance that one of them will become famous sooner or later.

[Kesha1980]

Purely theoretically, genocide is a concept more voluminous than the destruction of several cities. The main criterion is consistency. So, if at once a couple of cities - then the rules. But this is purely theoretical. "If you don't try, you won't know" (c).

[guest]

And why try, there have already been no one accused the Americans of the genocide of the Japanese.

[Kesha1980]

Harmful flair of humanity. Now he is in trend. Although the concept of military expediency should prevail.

[cniza]

By making such a statement, the Ukrainian president is laying a straw for himself in advance so that after Russia's victory he will say that he "warned".

It will not help, he will be accused from all sides ...

[Mint Gingerbread]

One thing is certain, as soon as the territories become part of the Russian Federation, then any military activity against these territories will mean a declaration of war. Of course, this will happen, and already on the territory of the Russian Federation, martial law may be introduced, unless it is replaced by another designation, with other amendments. As a result, the Russian Federation has the right to strike with any type of weapon at its disposal, against any targets, as well as to mobilize a larger number of military personnel.
I hope they will weigh what is more important at the top. The lives of their soldiers and the safety of their citizens, or pity for the western territory. I already have doubts that they will beat hard and very painful. Yes, there is their civilian population, but their own is closer. The question of survival has never changed over the centuries.

[Vladimir M]

Something military activity against the Crimea, Belgorod, Kursk regions, something did not lead to a declaration of war. So far, we only see how Obramovich gives phones and feeds the Azov people who killed our captured soldiers on camera.

[guest]

Quote: Mint Gingerbread

One thing is certain, as soon as the territories become part of the Russian Federation, then any military activity against these territories will mean a declaration of war.

You are wrong, unfortunately. The territories have already become Russian, and the enemy only intensified his aggression and the Nazis are already in Liman.

[Buyan]

Meli Emelya, your week .... Hollowtrees

[yuriy55]

Podolyak, adviser to the head of Zelensky's office, named two conditions

What, after all, is a rare rot ... How did the midwife not crush him with an umbilical cord? He knows everything, but he doesn’t ask for a potty.

[Quinto]

Why didn't this little rat on his dad's shorts dry up? How much easier it would be to breathe in the world

[Nord11]

Maybe our powers that be decided that it's time to stop fighting with pillows, but should we do it seriously? The boys got very worried when they got involved in the energy sector, otherwise before that they drove up to the trenches on electric trains ..

[bandabas]

Here Svidomo aching. It's time to sequester

[opposite28]

After the fall of Luhansk and Donetsk, 3-3,5 months and the war will finally end in the completely liberated territories of Ukraine, within the borders of 1991

Reminds me of the movie script "Olympus Has Fallen", "London Has Fallen". In vain Sean Penn in Kyiv is trying. The fantasy of Ukrainian politicians is relentless. Watch, listen, rewrite. These are the few criteria by which the balance of Yin and Yang forces in the Ukrainian environment is achieved.

[former soldier]

Quote: iouris

Specialists will be assigned to the equipment, otherwise it will not go anywhere and will not be able to shoot. So ahead of us is the imminent full-scale intervention of the United States in the next month and a half.

Have they already accumulated their troops in Poland, Romania in the required numbers? Have they brought equipment and ammunition for six months of fighting?

[Plowman]

It seems that some forces in our country are hindering the successful development of the NWO. It is necessary to dig deep into the higher echelons of power.

[Uprun]

Laughter with laughter, and they go according to their plan, a little ... and they will already reach the border of the LDNR ...., and we are all in the euphoria of referendums .... That, after 10.10.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX, they will stop shelling the seceded territories or stop the offensive from - near Kharkov towards Lugansk? Wake up ... today they have everything according to plan, and we are on the defensive .... the West has already put weapons on the outskirts of our mobilized for destruction ...., they are not yet at the front, and the weapons have already flowed ... "White gloves" will lead to the fact that our losses will be equal to those of the outskirts ....

[DeGreen]

Seems to smell something too. From Colombia

[VasyaRules]

Interestingly, does the West know that he still needs to allocate equipment? Taking into account the impending energy crisis, I don’t think that it is possible to supply conditional leopards 2, leclercs and challengers 2. The Americans can and can, but this will require the use of the fleet, and these are serious expenses.

[Arbeiternegast]

Quote from: Imperium_Aeterna

So, the encirclement of the Red Estuary is being prepared, Pegov says that we are retreating from Kupyansk.
What was the initial plan of the enemy - to recruit a horde, arm, prepare and at the right time throw it to the front in order to knock out a strategic initiative. The time from the start of recruitment to entry into battle is 4-6 months. I remember six months ago someone wrote about it here - everyone laughed together over this ... In fact, it happened.
Oh well.
What to do and what not to do:
1) We are critically late planning, general. SVO ended in fact at the end of March. Even then it was clear that it was necessary to declare, if not war, then WHO. Recruit personnel, mobilize.
- In reality, until the last, they hoped that it would blow over, everything would fall apart by itself.
The enemy (NATO + APU) were one step ahead in planning. The Russian Federation was late in making decisions. Now it is necessary to declare not WHO, but war.
Or seriously consider the issue of using nuclear weapons, conduct field tests.

2) It is useless to hysteria about the talents of the General Staff of the RF Ministry of Defense. No power means no power. Tanks, guns do not fire on their own - about 10 people are needed for each tank (4 crew + 5-6 in the rear - logistics, logistics, reconnaissance, support). Artillery - in general, everything is 15-20 (5-7 crew + carrier + MTO + reconnaissance, rear). If you want 10 guns like in the Second World War, find 000-150 thousand. person (on art only).
NO TALENTS GSH AND no planning will save here if you do not have the strength and, what is important, relatively well-trained.
3) Not giving a damn about everything to destroy ALL infrastructure in Ukraine. Without any restrictions and with the risks of strikes on the territory of the Russian Federation. They are not afraid of any threats and just peck without looking at anyone.

In a word, we ourselves deliberately drove the situation into complete shit out of good and humane motives. As a result, the mobilization was still carried out. You may level out the numbers, but in the end, you have more people with combat experience.

Here, I think, it's not about the military, but about business. In the highest, oligarchic.

[MaKeNa]

About 2014 is a strategic miscalculation. The fact that they could not, pathetic excuses for this mistake. About Izvarino and so on, it’s already useless now! Another thing is tragic - Russia has expanded, but NOTHING has changed in the war! And believe me, it will not change until the mood of the authorities changes. But she still hopes, constantly talks about negotiations. Why is it not clear? From the other side we were already sent ........, and we all climb! full!!!!