“The annual output of shells is spent by the Armed Forces of Ukraine in two weeks”: CNBC spoke about a significant decrease in the volume of arsenals in the United States

The West established guardianship over the independent armed forces, training personnel and supplying the Armed Forces of Ukraine with a wide range of military products, but after eight months of fighting, it was unable to fulfill its obligations.

В armory US industry, the annual output of shells for 155-mm howitzers in peacetime is about 30 pieces. Ukrainian soldiers spend this amount in about two weeks

- noted in the publication CNBC, talking about the depletion of weapons arsenals in the United States, which to date have provided the Kyiv regime with military products worth $ 24 billion since February 15,2.

NATO held a special meeting at which they discussed ways to replenish the weapons arsenals in the member countries of the alliance. However, it is obvious that it will be possible to forget about the supply of the Armed Forces of Ukraine without increasing production, which is what the Secretary General of the organization called for. This applies to both the US and Europe. The situation is complicated by the fact that some of the systems transferred to the Armed Forces of Ukraine are no longer being produced.

Building up defense production is not a quick or easy process. We need to transfer our military-industrial base to the rails of wartime. But there are no signs of change

- marked on the channel.

As the author explains, you can’t really count on deliveries of 155-mm shells from the USA - their stocks are enough only for training troops, maintaining their combat readiness and for reserving arsenals in case of war in other theaters [PRC, DPRK, Northern Europe]. As a result, the 155-mm guns delivered by the Armed Forces of Ukraine will have to be replaced by a 105-mm howitzer, "which has a smaller payload and firing range."

This is already a problem for the Ukrainians, since the distance of fire is crucial in this war. This is artillery warfare

- indicated in the publication.

To date, the United States has classified as "limited" stocks of HIMARS MLRS, Javelin ATGMs, Stinger MANPADS, M777 howitzers and 155mm ammunition. Thus, the United States produces about 800 Javelin launchers a year, about 8,5 thousand were transferred to Ukraine - this is the volume of production for more than a decade ...

Under these conditions, the Kyiv regime is advised to “use ammunition more carefully” and look for suppliers in other countries, for example, in South Korea, where you can order Tanks and howitzers.

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[SKVichyakow]

Fresh giving, but hard to believe.

[ASM]

Yes indeed. But mainly ammunition is spent from storage, which is "seven years old at lunchtime." By the way, we also have

[neworange88]

Quote from A.S.M.

Yes indeed. But mainly ammunition is spent from storage, which is "seven years old at lunchtime." By the way, we also have

So only the shells of the Cold War are available in the warehouses of the United States, in those days they were preparing for war, as in the Union, which also left huge stocks of ammunition. And after the Cold War, few people were preparing to really fight, so it turns out that there is a legacy of the Cold War and if it ends, then there will simply be nothing to wage big wars. Even the production of ammunition in the required volumes is not available to anyone. And the United States already has a shortage of ammunition and weapons of the Cold War heritage. .

[neworange88]

The demilitarization of the United States is obtained, not Ukraine. Ukraine is here only in the role of a disposal team for the stockpiles of US weapons and ammunition that they have left since the Cold War.

To date, the United States has classified as "limited" stocks of HIMARS MLRS, Javelin ATGMs, Stinger MANPADS, M777 howitzers and 155mm ammunition. Thus, the United States produces about 800 Javelin launchers a year, about 8,5 thousand were transferred to Ukraine - this is the volume of production for more than a decade ...

Under these conditions, the Kyiv regime is advised to “use ammunition more carefully” and look for suppliers in other countries, for example, in South Korea, where tanks and howitzers can be ordered.

Yes, of course. Ukrainians will start buying something from South Korea for foreign currency. With their economy, it will also not be possible to spend ammunition more carefully. For 7 months now, ammunition depots have been blown up in Ukraine every day. Here, how many shells, forbid, they will still "use up".

[Andrey Moskvin]

Thus, the United States produces about 800 Javelin launchers a year, about 8,5 thousand were transferred to Ukraine -
Launchers or missiles?

[Sergey Valov]

Machine translation without proofreading. And they talk about some kind of artificial intelligence.

[g1v2]

PU . Much more missiles have been delivered. In fact, NATO transferred more than a third of the total number of ATGMs and MANPADS to Saloreikha.

[akropin]

Heavy military industry is gas and electricity. The pipe to Europe is still sucking, fuel for US nuclear power plants is still being sold. Those. we support their military industry, which shoots at our fighters.

[Sergey Valov]

"Those. we support their military industry” - and we finance the NWO with the proceeds. The circulation of money in nature. Or a crazy house, if it's simple.

[Plate]

Quote: Sergey Valov

and we finance the NWO with the proceeds.

Somewhere I wrote this on this site, I repeat. The West needs fuel for the war with Russia, so it buys it in Russia. Russia needs money to fight the West, so it sells fuel to the West. It's mutually beneficial!

[Sergey Valov]

Seriously, during the war, money goes by the wayside, they can be printed (literally and figuratively) as much as you like. Resources (industrial and mineral resources plus food) and people come to the fore.

[Plate]

Yeah, only from such a monetary policy, prices in stores will fly so much that what it is now will seem like paradise.

[Sergey Valov]

Forget about the prices in stores, this option will have cards.

[Uprun]

Yes, whatever, it’s not yours, it’s not yours ....

[TIR]

Such a volume can only be put on the front line by train echelons. Moreover, several trains per day to the offensive site. Technique goes like this. And there are no blows to logistics. And how to go mobilized for this war? We stupidly kill people on the front line by inaction and agreements

[Sergey Valov]

“But there are no strikes on logistics” - it is necessary to hit not on logistics, but on bridges, tunnels, transformer substations, locomotives. And even better for power plants.

[coinsam]

Come on, the production of shells is much easier than the production of the same howitzers, it is quite possible to deploy the corresponding production lines. Then, the necessary types of shells go to Ukraine not only from the States, but also from European NATO countries. so in something, but in shooting Ukrainians can not limit themselves.

[Sergey Valov]

You probably do not know that about half of all resources spent during the war goes to the production of ammunition. It is easy to expand production, the problem is in output volumes.

[zenion]

Boil work in factories. Unemployment will drop. But the war is not going as fast as the US hoped. World capitalism is falling apart.

[rocket757]

The political scientist's version/opinion ... the javelin manufacturer explained that in order to increase their production, it is necessary to install a new line, hire personnel ... in general, expenses. And it is important for the manufacturer that the order is, if not forever, then for a very long time.
This is capitalism, no one wants to do this at a loss.
And so EVERYWHERE.
Now arms manufacturers have sustainable production, with guaranteed prospects for the sale of their products, depends on the mood of politicians they do not want.

[former soldier]

Lie. If there is little ammunition, then this is usually silent.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Former soldier

Lie. If there is little ammunition, then this is usually silent.

War is a way of deception. When you can, pretend you can't; use - pretend not to use; when you are close, pretend to be far; when you're far away, pretend to be close. The one who is greedy is deceived by profit; the one whose affairs are in disorder, seize; with those who are fully prepared, be alert; turn away from the strong; exasperate the quick-tempered; behave with the arrogant in such a way that his pride will increase; the one who is resting - tire; those who are friendly - undress; those who are not ready - attack, speaking from where they are not expected. Such a commander must win, but it is impossible to foresee in advance which of the methods he will have to use.© Nothing has changed since the time of Sun Tzu.

[Emergency]

They let in fog, they drive disinformation. Deceived - won

[Ivan Ivanov]

Question to the political elite - why do we proudly refuse other people's help? It was offered to us by the DPRK, the Taliban, and the Syrians. The whole west plows on saloreich.

[Vladimir Dmitrievich Burtsev]

Question to adequate Americans and NATO members: "Why do you need all this?" If the Bandera people have no brains, are you, too, something to go crazy? Why do you need these huge unnecessary expenditures on arming Bandera in Ukraine, who are pulling the economy of your countries to the bottom ?? For centuries, Kyiv lived at the expense of Russia. Now he began to parasitize on the United States and NATO countries. In addition to the gigantic military spending on arming the Bandera fascists in the square, NATO countries spend billions of euros on the maintenance of refugees from Ukraine! Retire senile Biden as soon as possible! And life will become easier for everyone at once !!!!

[rocket757]

“The annual output of shells is spent by the Armed Forces of Ukraine in two weeks”: CNBC spoke about a significant decrease in the volume of arsenals in the United States

. It is clear that in order to quickly replenish stocks of weapons, it is necessary to switch to "military rails".
And there are a lot of questions that only a specialist can answer ... do we have such here ???
There is a retelling, the versions that are presented by various political scientists, somehow I don’t want to ... they make too many assumptions, allow assumptions, but this is not ice.

[Sergey Valov]

“We need to switch to “military rails”. - no need. If we leave out the Hymers, Excaliburs and the Javelins that joined them, then the release of conventional high-explosive and high-explosive shells can be increased many times over quite quickly. Of course, we are talking about the needs of the current NWO, no matter from which side. The current NWO is a low-intensity conflict involving relatively small military contingents. Countries such as the USSR / Russia and the USA have been preparing for a global war for decades and, accordingly, have been preparing arsenals and industry for this. In peacetime, the industry produces ammunition not only for exercises, but also to replace ammunition that has exhausted its resource in warehouses, and these are huge volumes. Plus, both of them have not only mothballed production lines for the production of ammunition, but also entire factories. For the sake of Ukraine, no one will be engaged in the reopening of production facilities, but to arrange three-shift work at existing plants is no problem.

[rocket757]

One of the big guys said about the transition of industry to war footing ...
The first year they release what they can.
The second year, what you need.
Third year, whatever!
I wonder why so? If ready-made factories / productions are simply CONSERVED ???
Private business will not do this, it is NOT PROFITABLE.
The state ... yes, not everyone can afford this, because the costs are not small, in all respects.
In general ... Och is doubtful and the concern of the same military is understandable. The arsenals are empty, it is impossible to replenish them quickly.
That's how I understood the expert's explanation...
I do not claim that this is true, but it is very similar to that.

[Sergey Valov]

The answer is both very simple and very complex. The question of the predicted production of military products in wartime is a secret behind seven locks. “Walking” through the workshops of aircraft factories during the Soviet era, I understood a lot about this issue.
"Private business" - how will it be if the costs are paid.
“The state…” - and not everyone is doing this, only those who consider it necessary. And there are very few of them.
"expert explanations" - oh, those experts. . Professional explanations are needed, but this is not on the Internet.

[rocket757]

For all the one most reliable answer ... time will tell who, what and how.

[Petr_Koldunov]

So it’s not that the ukrovermacht consumes shells in such volumes ... Still, rather huge stocks in numerous Sumerian ammunition depots were disposed of by our artillery strikes and rocket weapons.
So they can moderate the power supply consumption ... please. But help in the disposal of their supplies on our part - will continue without pity.

[Normal ok]

The first mention of the fact that the US government held a meeting with the heads of the military-industrial complex on the transfer of the economy to "military rails" was at the end of May. Why is there another lullaby here?

[Illanatol]

Well, how - switched to military rails? How many times has the output of the main types of military equipment increased over the past period?
Tanks "Abrams", for example?

[Vasyan1971]

Thus, the United States produces about 800 Javelin launchers a year, about 8,5 thousand were transferred to Ukraine - this is the volume of production for more than a decade ...

Yeah. War is primarily the economy and production. You can't throw your enemy's bare money... And how to transfer the country to a military footing if there is no war? No one succeeded with a swoop, now, I think, I’ll have to butt stupidly ...

[former soldier]

Quote: Vasyan1971

Quote: Former soldier

Lie. If there is little ammunition, then this is usually silent.

War is a way of deception. When you can, pretend you can't; use - pretend not to use; when you are close, pretend to be far; when you're far away, pretend to be close. The one who is greedy is deceived by profit; the one whose affairs are in disorder, seize; with those who are fully prepared, be alert; turn away from the strong; exasperate the quick-tempered; behave with the arrogant in such a way that his pride will increase; the one who is resting - tire; those who are friendly - undress; those who are not ready - attack, speaking from where they are not expected. Such a commander must win, but it is impossible to foresee in advance which of the methods he will have to use.© Nothing has changed since the time of Sun Tzu.

There is a feeling that someone read Sun Tzu, but considered himself wiser than him.

[Illanatol]

The demilitarization of NATO is in full swing. It is not surprising that tanks and fighters do not want to hand over to Khokhols ... "for the sebe" there will be little left.
The West is not ready for a full-scale high-intensity conflict. Especially European countries... as shown by their military operation against Libya.
And it is unlikely that the situation will be corrected quickly. After all, this is not the Stalinist USSR with its directive-planned economy, when it was possible to order automobile plants to produce tanks. You can’t command a private trader much, he doesn’t care about any “national security interests”, he only cares about maximizing profits.

[Illanatol]

Quote: Sergey Valov

Plus, both of them have mothballed not only production lines for the production of ammunition, but also entire factories.

In the USSR or the Russian Federation, it is possible. But in the United States ... hardly.
Conservation of production = death of capital. The state can do this, but a private producer is unlikely. And the military-industrial complex in the United States is the private sector, the bourgeoisie is unlikely to subscribe to this. Him same from similar solid losses. Capital should work and bring profit, not collect dust.
Otherwise, you will merge with competitors who use their capital more efficiently.
And the stockpiles of ammunition in the United States are not so great. They were pretty much reduced after the collapse of the USSR and the Department of Internal Affairs, simply sold to the allies. Accordingly, to produce them, for the sake of compensating for those whose expiration date has expired, not so much is needed. And the production facilities are reoriented to the production of more relevant (often peaceful) products. And qualified manpower, engineers - is also far from being in excess. Few of today's Western youth want to link their fate with production, to stand at the machine or conveyor.
So not everything is curly and there ...

[Sergey Valov]

With your lips - yes, drink honey. The reality is unfortunately different. When I wrote about mothballed factories, I didn’t assume, I know that. A private manufacturer goes to the conservation of production easily when the state pays for its costs, and the US government has been doing this for decades, they have a gigantic military budget for a reason. And the stocks of ammunition there are also gigantic, it's just that there is almost no information about this in our press. There, of course, not everything is curly, but it is far from being as bad as our illiterate turbopatriots often write. As for the question of where you can get open information on this topic, there are a lot of departmental open periodicals. And yes, it’s not so easy to get acquainted with them, you won’t find them on sale, much less on the Internet.

[Illanatol]

Quote: Sergey Valov

A private manufacturer goes to the conservation of production easily when the state pays for its costs, and the US government has been doing this for decades, they have a gigantic military budget for a reason. And the stocks of ammunition there are also gigantic, it's just that there is almost no information about this in our press.

And the bourgeois not only care about costs, he needs profit. Or is he overpaid?
Well, if this falls on the military budget, then those who constantly poke their noses at how big the Pentagon's budget is should not forget about it ... I'm sure that we have the maintenance of excess production capacity under a completely different budget item.
About the stocks of ammunition and weapons - I stand by my own. If everything were so, there would be no need to withdraw the same "jevelins" and "stingers" from combat units, and then place an urgent order for their production in order to compensate for the shortage.
And let's not forget about the corruption in the Armed Forces there. The traditions are long-standing, the deals are twisted there, where are the cinematic "arms barons". Colonel Oliver North is an amateur compared to the current ones.
I recall the story of the Boeing, which allegedly landed in the Pentagon (9/11), just on the eve of a large-scale audit ... just in the wing where the documents and reports needed to audit the Pentagon's expenses were located.
Operation "Y" in American style... on a large scale and effectively... you can't drink away your skill!