The West is not sure about the unambiguous reaction to the case of Russia's "possible use" of nuclear weapons in Ukraine

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The West is not sure about the unambiguous reaction to the case of Russia's "possible use" of nuclear weapons in Ukraine

The French Agence France-Presse (AFP) spoke with several experts and officials to predict what would happen if Russia suddenly used a nuclear weapon. weapon in Ukraine. The opinions of analysts are divided, as are the possible scenarios for the behavior of the United States and NATO countries in response to the possible use of weapons of mass destruction by the Russian Federation during a special operation.

The West is seriously alarmed by Putin's recent statement that "those who are trying to blackmail us with nuclear weapons should know that the wind can turn in their direction." And although the Russian president meant precisely retaliatory measures, many Western politicians and experts perceived this as a direct threat of a preventive nuclear strike by the Russian Armed Forces.



At the same time, experts interviewed by AFP are sure that Russia will not use high-yield strategic charges, but may limit itself to strikes with tactical nuclear warheads with a yield of 0,3 to 100 kilotons. But "small" and "limited" are relative terms: the atomic bomb that the United States dropped on Hiroshima in 1945 had a devastating effect of only 15 kilotons.

Analysts say Russia's goal in using a tactical nuclear bomb on Ukraine would be to intimidate Kyiv into capitulation and split Western allies. To this end, experts suggest, Moscow could detonate a nuclear weapon high in the air or above the water off the coast of southwestern Ukraine to create an electromagnetic pulse that would disable electronic equipment.

In the worst case, Putin can strike at a military base or a major city. This will lead to mass casualties and possibly the death of the political leadership, experts predict.

How will such events, if they occur, be reacted in the West? There is no definite answer to this question.

The United States and NATO do not want to appear weak in the face of a hidden nuclear threat. But they also want to avoid the war in Ukraine, which is not a member of NATO, escalating into a much more destructive global nuclear war.

Experts say the West will have no choice but to respond, and that the response must come from the entire NATO bloc, not just the US.

Any response must ensure that Putin's military position is not improved by such a strike, and that his political, economic and personal standing suffers as a result.

John Wolfsthal, a former White House nuclear policy expert, says.

At the same time, the response actions of the West themselves can follow several alternative scenarios.

The United States has deployed about 100 of its own tactical nuclear weapons in NATO countries and may respond in kind against Russian troops. According to Matthew Kronig of the Atlantic Council, this would show determination and remind Moscow of the dangers of its actions. But such a move "could provoke Russian nuclear retaliation, raising the risk of a larger nuclear exchange and further humanitarian catastrophe." Not all NATO countries can agree to this, which will lead to a split within the alliance.

Experts believe that it would be more effective to respond to a Russian nuclear attack in the usual military or diplomatic way, providing Ukraine with more lethal weapons to attack Russia directly. In particular, modern combat aircraft, Patriot and THAAD anti-missile batteries, as well as ATACMS long-range missiles.

Russia's use of nuclear weapons could provide an opportunity to convince countries that have so far resisted, such as India and possibly even China, to participate in the escalation of sanctions.

suggests Kronig.

In any case, Western analysts are sure that if Russia uses nuclear weapons, the West will remove all restrictions in supporting Ukraine. At the same time, for some reason, the question of what kind of support for Ukraine as a state can be discussed at all, if Western experts themselves allegedly declare a possible nuclear strike on Ukraine as such? Where and to whom are they going to put their missiles, planes, etc. after a hypothetical nuclear strike?..

I would like to ask Western wise men who love to talk about a nuclear catastrophe and other gloomy scenarios for the death of the world: are they not afraid that by removing restrictions on the militarization of the Kyiv regime, the West will provoke a global world war? This scenario is more real today than the hypothetical use of Russian nuclear weapons in Ukraine.
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  1. +8
    24 September 2022 14: 11
    A bunch of frightened idiots. In the event of a nuclear attack, kirdyk will be everything
    1. -6
      24 September 2022 14: 16
      Quote: dmi.pris
      A bunch of frightened idiots. In the event of a nuclear attack, kirdyk will be everything

      Well, we will definitely kill Australia, according to their rich bunkers !!!
      They were going to sit there ..hehe ..
      If wet then EVERYONE!
      Remember this sir!!!
  2. -6
    24 September 2022 14: 12
    We have a "dead hand" system so lord..Think
    And the cartoons of "Putin" are already real
    1. +1
      24 September 2022 17: 10
      Quote from gansales
      And the cartoons of "Putin" are already real

      There is information (albeit at the level of hearing, albeit from an informed person) that one of the mothballed nuclear facilities was re-mothballed and modernized. And this production, by the way, produced weapons-grade plutonium in Soviet times. So think realistically or cartoons?
      1. +2
        24 September 2022 18: 19
        We have accumulated quite a lot of plutonium .. Although, if you decide to re-mothball it, then it means you need to
        1. +1
          25 September 2022 21: 28
          Quote: dmi.pris
          We have accumulated quite a lot of plutonium.

          Plutonium degenerates over time (15-20 years), so you need to constantly develop a new one. Everyone has long switched to uranium 235U, it is more durable in terms of storing warheads.
  3. +7
    24 September 2022 14: 12
    predict the development of events in the event that Russia suddenly uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine.

    What kind of idiot uses nuclear weapons on HIS territory ??? Nah, gentlemen experts - not on their own ... far from their own. Although I can not help but note - "there is a smell of thunder in the air"
    1. +1
      25 September 2022 00: 35
      Everyone understands the distribution of threats. A nuclear strike on the territory of Ukraine, if it happens, will only be against the NATO troops that have entered there.
      Russia has more nuclear weapons, including tactical ones, but less time. It plays against us.
      Therefore, if a blow is delivered (non-demonstrative), then at the bases in Poland. With voicing an ultimatum that this was a response to NATO's actions. And that any new action will be perceived as new and unprovoked. Any strike on Russia - will cause a hundred nuclear strikes on points of interest in Eastern Europe (escalation). A similar blow to us is the launch of everything. This will end US dominance, India and China will take over.
      The US will not go to a global war, it does not make any sense to them at all.
      1. 0
        30 September 2022 22: 15
        And Eastern Europe is to blame for you? laughing
        1. 0
          1 October 2022 20: 53
          The Nazis, who let the Americans in, are fighting with us now and are actively preparing an invasion? Nothing, like 41.
          1. 0
            2 October 2022 11: 26
            It was not VE that let the amers in, but the USSR surrendered it. Who sent troops from the GDR?
    2. Kim
      -1
      26 September 2022 03: 32
      here is the question - that take it for granted
      IMHO, these 7 months the question was insensitively realized: who their ?
      seems to have settled
      but by a stranger you can at least from the BFG9000
  4. +4
    24 September 2022 14: 14
    Unfortunately, the United States, unlike almost all European countries, does not know what a real destructive war is on their territory.
    When millions of people are killed, the whole country is destroyed, thousands of factories, farms, cities and forces are destroyed.
    They know this only from stories from across the ocean.
    And, unfortunately, it is they who now lead both the NATO bloc and the entire European Union.

    Maybe if China starts an operation to protect the indigenous peoples of America, and blows half of this unfortunate country to hell, maybe after that they will be a little more responsible in their reasoning, conclusions and actions.
  5. +2
    24 September 2022 14: 15
    The West is not sure about the unambiguous reaction to the case of Russia's "possible use" of nuclear weapons in Ukraine

    Do they measure themselves?
    Why should Russia use a vigorous loaf on its own, albeit future, territory?
    In our country, the father of all bombs has never been used, and he, in terms of power, is comparable to tactical nuclear weapons, only "environmentally friendly."
    So why do we litter our territory? We have to live on it.
    Now, if in the west they completely lose the coast, and they climb to us, then we, with all the breadth of our soul and with all the hatred, will “treat” the adversary. Yes
    1. -3
      24 September 2022 14: 31
      We never compare. If memory serves - 44 tons of TNT. Somewhere around 300m of guaranteed defeat. In addition, she has a mass of 8 tons and the dimensions are not small. Why apply it? And are they in service?
  6. +1
    24 September 2022 14: 20
    We haven’t started anything yet, but they are already thinking about how to respond to a nuclear strike ...) In principle, this is of course better than doing something first and then thinking.
  7. +4
    24 September 2022 14: 21
    or over water off the coast of western Ukraine

    Since when did western Ukraine have access to the sea?
    1. +4
      24 September 2022 14: 27
      Shaw? Are they digging the sea again? With its unclean snout...
  8. 0
    24 September 2022 14: 23
    if Ukraine is not a priority, why use nuclear weapons on it? the red lines are long gone. they are already a ball. and the decision-making centers are still intact. Yao must be preserved for them. and for those more who sends bigger and heavier weapons
  9. +3
    24 September 2022 14: 24
    And what about the coast of Western Ukraine, which is mentioned in the article?
    1. +4
      24 September 2022 14: 32
      Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
      And what about the coast of Western Ukraine, which is mentioned in the article?

      Well, what about, the coast of the "Belarusian Sea", psaki showed on the map wink
      1. 0
        24 September 2022 23: 58
        Quote: FenH
        Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
        And what about the coast of Western Ukraine, which is mentioned in the article?

        Well, what about, the coast of the "Belarusian Sea", psaki showed on the map wink

        I live on the coast of the Minsk Sea. The dimensions, however, are not marine, but the name is loud!
  10. 0
    24 September 2022 14: 26
    I think it’s a big bluff that for greenery and for Ukraine the United States and the Britons will unleash World War 3, so after World War 3 they will have no more moves! and as long as there is ukraine, they walk and walk and maneuver, and after ukraine, where they will spoil and cook up a plan, but after world 3 they won’t have anything to do as they won’t be on planet earth! if the United States and the Britons have no trump card under our missiles and charges! so that we can inflict on Ukraine and wrap us up with an aggressor, and they will attack with a stalemate and destroy everything from the Russian Federation! I'm so from the plot of fiction)))))) I'm 98% sure that because of Ukraine no one will start World War 3 so everyone will fall into the ground!
    1. 0
      24 September 2022 14: 42
      Quote: opuonmed
      I think it’s a big bluff what kind of greenery and for Ukraine the United States and the Britons will unleash World War 3

      For Zelya and for Ukraine they will not untie.
      They will unleash it according to their Wishlist stupidity and stupidity
      1. 0
        24 September 2022 15: 13
        Quote: 41 REGION
        Quote: opuonmed
        I think it’s a big bluff what kind of greenery and for Ukraine the United States and the Britons will unleash World War 3

        For Zelya and for Ukraine they will not untie.
        They will unleash it according to their Wishlist stupidity and stupidity

        because of Wishlist and even because of stupidity and stupidity
        nothing will happen! if they don’t have a trump card against our nuclear triad! I now think Ukraine is the trigger for the collapse of the world into blocks with nuclear umbrellas!
  11. +2
    24 September 2022 14: 29
    experts suggest Moscow could detonate a nuclear weapon high in the air or above water off the coast of southwestern Ukraine,

    Apparently a provocation is already being prepared. Well, one pleases at least away from our borders. But where is the coast? In western Ukraine request if the coast is Odessa.
  12. -1
    24 September 2022 14: 34
    Something recently, European people have often begun to carry nonsense about the use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine. It looks like they decided to arrange a provocation at the Ukrainian nuclear power plant. They will become
  13. +3
    24 September 2022 14: 38
    After the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan and the United States became best friends and allies. Maybe it makes sense
  14. HAM
    0
    24 September 2022 14: 43
    "..... tactical nuclear warheads with a yield of 0,3 to 100 kilotons"...

    Here are the bitches, and here they want to eat the fish and stay whole ....
    As we say: “we didn’t live richly, there’s nothing to start!” - that’s how it is ....
  15. 0
    24 September 2022 14: 58
    The West is not sure about the unambiguous reaction to the case of Russia's "possible use" of nuclear weapons in Ukraine
    . So that FEAR, not the most useless feeling. When it's on time and in the right place.
  16. +2
    24 September 2022 15: 04
    The United States is preparing a provocation to detonate a nuclear warhead on the territory of Ukraine. They will blow up Kharkov or Odessa and blame Russia for the attack. Follow the relocation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - from which city they run, they will destroy it. Although they can donate the military if their number is small. From the country, the only one on the planet to use nuclear weapons, not only can, but should be expected any meanness.
  17. -3
    24 September 2022 16: 15
    They can also bring a bomb to Kyiv and blow it up at the bank, and blame the Russian Federation. Anything can be expected from the USA!! And we will never get rid of this!
  18. 0
    24 September 2022 17: 36
    Jaderná válka nepůjde zastavit, nebude proč..
  19. 0
    24 September 2022 19: 26
    Experts believe that it would be more effective to respond to a Russian nuclear attack in a conventional military or diplomatic way.

    Let's say culturally - done it!
  20. 0
    24 September 2022 19: 36
    I’m embarrassed to ask the elderly congressmen, menacingly puffing out their cheeks ... if Russia fires nuclear charges across Ukraine, even if it has a very limited effect, then TO WHOM will they supply weapons there in the States "without restrictions" ???
  21. ada
    0
    24 September 2022 22: 14
    I propose to translate into military language and formulations.
    Nuclear weapons (threat of use, potential, etc.) are an influence factor (PV (influence factor) - various circumstances (existing or being created) that are important for the situation).
    Information regarding nuclear weapons - information PV (according to the method of application).
    Emphasizing in information the type of weapon, place and time of use, the appointment of the culprit, the description of the consequences and its distribution - building up the PV.
    Public discussion by politicians, experts, etc., involvement of other structures in the process, use of information for decisions and practical actions - the development of EF.
    The creation of a planned situation as a result of the formed public opinion, the adopted military-political decisions, etc., is the goal of the PV.
    In fact, this is an information operation (IO).
    According to the instruction (US Armed Forces), information operations are a set of events agreed upon in terms of purpose, tasks, place and time, carried out simultaneously and sequentially according to a single plan and plan during a military operation to influence or hinder the process of preparing, adopting and implementing a military decision probable, potential or real enemy and to simultaneously protect their troops from similar actions of the opposing side.
    In this case, taking into account the statements of the Russian Defense Ministry, it is obvious that a provocation with nuclear weapons or a threat to use nuclear weapons is being prepared to create a modern precedent.
    Who is doing this.
    Well, the White House, the Pentagon and special services, that is, the US CDF, there are structures in the WB Armed Forces, NATO. China has serious strength.
    "... Awareness of the strategic importance of armed struggle in cyberspace, its critical role in achieving military goals, prompted the American command to create cyber operations forces (CFO) in the structure of the national armed forces and build up their capabilities.
    Currently, the SCBO (with a total number of more than 60 military personnel and civilian specialists) are part of the command of combat operations in cyberspace of the ground forces (F), Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps (MP), which are operationally subordinate to the command of combat operations in cyberspace (USCYBERCOM ) the joint strategic command (USC), and administratively - to the ministers of the armed forces and the commandant of the MP. ..."
    Foreign military review. - 2014. - No. 1. - P.41-46

    ".... The study of information operations of the US Armed Forces at the beginning of the XNUMXst century made it possible to single out a number of common points on them.
    First, the military-political leadership of the United States has always made public attempts to prevent a war. However, it is worth noting that when demonstrating the desire to maintain peace, unacceptable, unfavorable conditions are provided to a potential adversary. In this case, the tools of the so-called soft power are involved. That is, simultaneously with the preparation by the US armed forces of an information operation, elements of information confrontation at the state level are used, which for the most part boil down to pressure on the threatened side through diplomatic, economic and information channels. Before the start of hostilities, the US armed forces themselves actively and openly use the organs and forces of such elements of the IO as strategic propaganda and public relations, as well as interact with interagency partners, governmental and international organizations (for example, the State Department, the CIA, the FBI, the agency United States International Development Agency, International Organization for Human Rights).
    No less intensive, but covert, military disinformation measures are being carried out by the US armed forces, information and reconnaissance activities are constantly carried out (including in the interests of intelligence support for the IO), and cyber operations are carried out.
    Particular attention deserves psychological operations, which, by their specifics, are carried out openly and, as can be seen from recent events in Ukraine, are characterized by the widespread use of telecommunications infrastructure and focus on various target audiences, namely, the leadership of the enemy (probable/acting), the command and personnel of the Armed Forces , the population of the opposing side (peaceful, supporting or hostile towards "legitimate" leaders), the military-political leadership and residents of the region of a possible future military conflict, the government and population of other countries of the world (including allied countries, coalition partners, neutral and states hostile to the United States), as well as the population of the United States. As the main tools for solving the tasks set in this area, the media and the global Internet were used (the impact was carried out through social networks, microblogs, video hosting, etc.). ..."
    Foreign military review. 2015, No.11, S. 3-14
  22. 0
    24 September 2022 22: 55
    It looks like they are preparing to use nuclear weapons or simulate its use on used ones. I would regard this as an attack on the Russian Federation.
  23. +1
    26 September 2022 06: 27
    Putin's statement that "those who are trying to blackmail us with nuclear weapons should know that the wind can turn in their direction."

    Also, we don't bluff.
    The Poles decide to send troops to / into Ukraine, they can rake. And then what?
  24. 0
    26 September 2022 17: 47
    Putin said that by October all previous missiles would be replaced by Sarmatians, so let them think carefully, besides, they will still fly faster, even if they are the first to launch their minutemen. In addition, the radius of destruction of even one Sarmat missile is very impressive, and considering how many other similar missiles we have, and submarines that circle in 2 oceans, there will certainly be no winners. By the way, the idea for our manufacturers is to create hypersonic missiles that destroy their missiles at launch or while they are flying over the ocean in order to reduce the number of strikes on our territory.