The Ministry of Defense is looking for a place to test the electromagnetic catapult of a promising aircraft carrier

The Russian Ministry of Defense is clearly beginning to prepare for the construction of promising aircraft carriers, while nothing has been announced about the choice of the project, but the site for testing the new electromagnetic catapult is already being looked at. According to an informed source, a special commission has been created in the military department, which should determine where the new product will be tested.

According to available information, the special commission included representatives of the Ministry of Defense and the Main Staff of the Russian Navy, who in the near future should familiarize themselves with two military facilities and make a choice in favor of one of them. We are talking about NITKA complexes (ground test training complex aviation) in Saki and Yeysk. On one of them, it is planned to test an electromagnetic catapult for a promising aircraft carrier (aircraft carriers?).

It is expected that in the near future the commission of the Ministry of Defense and the Main Command of the Navy will make a choice on which of the two ground-based test training aviation complexes in Russia in Saki and in Yeysk will test an electromagnetic catapult for promising Russian aircraft carriers

- leads TASS source words.

Both complexes were previously visited by the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy Nikolai Evmenov, after which it was decided to create a commission.

Talk and debate about the need to build aircraft carriers for the Russian fleet have been going on for quite a long time, several projects, both light and heavy nuclear, were presented by the Nevsky Design Bureau and the Krylovsky Research Center, but there is still no decision. True, there are rumors that the laying of aircraft carriers is provided for by the new state defense order program after 2027. The information about the plans to test an electromagnetic catapult for a promising aircraft carrier gives hope to those who are waiting for their laying. In the meantime, the only aircraft-carrying cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov remains in the Navy, which is still under repair.

Comments

[navigator777]

Let's at least learn how to build destroyers and cruisers, otherwise they don't even really know how to repair, 17 years ago he served in Severodvinsk, Nakhimov was already under repair and is still there.

[skeptic]

Being in places of repair and repair is a big difference

[navigator777]

Well, Kuzya, for example, almost drowned once, burned once and it is still not clear when he will come out, in general, everything is long and stupid with us.

[cmax]

Quote from skeptic

Being in places of repair and repair is a big difference

And what, from your remark, will something be repaired faster? How stupid it looks. The man was God knows how many years ago and saw what was being repaired then. It is still being renovated. What is not clear?

[Grigory_78]

It's like with the alteration of "Gorshkov" into "Vikramaditya" - three alteration projects were changed. Or with the construction of the first Arctic oil platform, the construction of which was financed at 2% of the total cost per year for the first ten years of construction. Can you calculate for yourself how many years would it take to complete the construction of that platform while maintaining the pace of funding?
The same with Kuznetsov and Nakhimov. First, the authorities need to decide what exactly you want and when you need to get it. And then decide the issue of allocating the necessary funding and support. And when they themselves can not understand what they want, and even more so when they want it - and the result is appropriate. It all turns into a long-term construction, on which, perhaps, state money is cut

[Alien From]

Drones would have mastered it properly, damn them catapult.

[lucul]

Let's at least learn how to build destroyers and cruisers, otherwise we don't even know how to properly repair

In general, everything needs to be restored and modernized, no matter what.
Therefore, prioritization is important.
Your destroyers and cruisers, without an aircraft carrier (with AWACS aircraft) will simply be blind.

[fa2998]

Quote: navigator777

Let's at least learn how to build destroyers and cruisers,

I partially agree! But now it’s not catapults and aircraft carriers, not destroyers and cruisers, it’s necessary to somehow solve the war in Ukraine. Mobilization in the country is the scale of expenses!

[ilya.muromczev2013]

Did it ever occur to you that you were standing due to the fact that no money was allocated for repairs? And in general, what 17 years??? Nakhimov was going to be "put on spare parts" to Peter the Great, and not so long ago they decided to repair it ... But during this time, and with this money, a bunch of small missile ships were built, which now shoot Caliber at the Ukronats. IMHO - this is a much more "profitable" investment for the fleet at this stage of time ...

[Boa kaa]

Still, I would leave Saki for training and training of jump-pilots. And in Yeisk, I would build an EMC with all the ensuing consequences. And they will probably still build a flat-deck AVM in Severodvinsk. Others just won't pull. There is no experience, competencies, trained personnel.
IMHO

[Ponchik78]

Well, yes! Only in Severodvinsk is there any experience of working on aircraft carriers. I mean repair of Gorshkov/Vikramaditya

[AAK]

I agree that in Novo-Fedorovka they did not finish the restoration after the "explosion of ammunition", in addition, Yeysk is further from the front and on the mainland of Russia

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

Still, I would leave Saki for training and training of jump-pilots. And in Yeisk, I would build an EMC with all the ensuing consequences.

Dear Alexander, wouldn't it make sense to set up an EM cat gun exactly where ski jump pilots train? Feels my heart, AV will have both a springboard and a catopult, on the model of Ulyanovsk.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

Dear Alexander, wouldn't it make sense to set up an EM cat gun exactly where ski jump pilots train?

Moreover, according to the original plans, the catapults should have been located in Saki - then still steam, from the Proletarian Plant.

[Dilettante grandfather]

Dear Andrey, catopults are needed where not pilots, but cats train. And then I'm not sure that cats will approve of EM-CatOpult...

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Grandfather is an amateur

Dear Andrey, catopults are needed where not pilots train, but cats.

Eh, no. Amers have the only heavy carrier-based fighter - Tomcat. So, he took off from a catopult
In general, do not pay attention, I'm joking

[Dilettante grandfather]

...For every cat Tom there is our Barsik!..

[Aviator_]

For every cat Tom there is our Barsik!.

Historically, our cats are called Vaska. the first mention is by Pushkin, "The House in Kolomna", and this is 1830, soon it will be 200 years old.

[Dilettante grandfather]

Not all. Both Bayun and Murzik are the historical names of our cats, not only Vasily. Imagine yourself: everything, absolutely everything - Vaska. "- Vasya! - Ash? - I'm not for you, I'm Vaska!" Disorder! It's like all people would be Ivans. Or Sergei. Or Andrey. No options.

[Aviator_]

Of course, there was variety, but a written document from a contemporary is Pushkin and his "House in Kolomna".

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

AB will have both a springboard and a catopult, modeled on Ulyanovsk.

Andrew!
1. Even Chirkov, when he was the Civil Code of the Navy, wrapped New-1143.7 when the Krylovites tried to sell it as a KNOW-HOW.
2. The trampoline version loses in combat load and fuel reserves for aircraft launched in this way. To localize this "hole", you need to refuel the aircraft in the air. This is still a pleasure, and a complex "flight" event in itself.
Therefore, you should not fence the garden - a flat deck and a catopult!
Only instead of TOMKETs I propose to launch the Su-75K or whatever will be new there.

[bayard]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

But wouldn't it make sense to arrange an EM-catopult exactly where the ski jump pilots train? Feels my heart, AV will have both a springboard and a catopult, on the model of Ulyanovsk.

Of course, it would be more convenient in Saki, but ... it is not clear how long the NWO will last, and the Crimea has already become vulnerable to all kinds of sabotage.
In Yeisk, such work will be carried out more calmly, without looking back at the NWO ... which Shamanov promised us to stretch for 10 years.

[Romario_Argo]

in Severodvinsk, Sevmash shop 55 will pull the dimensions of an aircraft carrier - length 372 by 78 meters

[lucul]

Still, I would leave Saki for training and training of jump-pilots.

Well, why an electromagnetic catapult? Steam in the Arctic Ocean would be preferable.
Well, what they chose, they chose.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: lucul

Well, why an electromagnetic catapult? Steam in the Arctic Ocean would be preferable.

EM is preferable everywhere, especially in the north

[Romario_Argo]

EM is preferable to frigates because of its draft of 5-6 meters and the immersion of the bow HAK up to 8 meters
when the sea is 5-6 points, there will be no interference when searching for submarines
and if you put the GAK Polynomial like this at all - there will be no EM prices
+ seaworthiness and EM range are higher

[Alexander Vorontsov]

And why did you and Timokhin quiet down about your favorite topic - aircraft tanks? They promised us "the global influence of the fleet." Where is it? Now is the time to "drag the rink."

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Alexander Vorontsov

And why did you and Timokhin quiet down about your favorite topic - aircraft tanks?

Ask Timokhin about Timokhin. And about me - there are a lot of cases, so there are few articles. In addition, AB is not my favorite, but one of my favorite topics, and I'm not going to write exclusively about AB.

Quote: Alexander Vorontsov

They promised us "the global influence of the fleet." Where is it?

What did I promise you? :))) Could you express your thoughts more specifically?

[Alexander Vorontsov]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

What did I promise you? :))) Could you express your thoughts more specifically?

Oh .. Andryushenka's memory is broken again)))
So I'll remind you

But nevertheless, many people believe that we should not promote any political and economic interests in distant countries today. That we should focus on restoring order in our country, limiting external influences to our neighboring states. I do not agree with this point of view. But she, without a doubt, has the right to life.

What did I promise you? :)

You didn’t promise me personally, you did something in the ears of all readers))
About the global influence of the fleet and the wretchedness of land thinking.
They raved about Africa and ignored questions about Ukraine.

So will we see "global influence" or will it remain the lot of your fantastic opuses? And instead of answering the question, would you prefer to clow again?

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Alexander Vorontsov

Oh .. Andryushenka's memory is broken again)))

"What a pain, what a pain - Argentina-Jamaica, five zero!" :)))) Yes, Alexander, you are notably burnt :))))

Quote: Alexander Vorontsov

You didn’t promise me personally, you did something in the ears of all readers))
About the global influence of the fleet and the wretchedness of land thinking.

Yes. For the fleet is global, but land thinking ... is not.

Quote: Alexander Vorontsov

They raved about Africa and ignored questions about Ukraine.

Only in your miserable perception. Because I did not oppose the fleet to other branches of the armed forces and did not suggest focusing on the fleet to the detriment of the ground forces, the Aerospace Forces, the Strategic Missile Forces, etc.

Quote: Alexander Vorontsov

So will we see "global influence" or will it remain the lot of your fantastic opuses?

I'm even afraid to ask what kind of "global influence" you want to see. Because, in order to provide it, we need a fleet, which we do not have. But which we could build within the funds allocated for it today
https://topwar.ru/181285-o-stoimosti-flota-kotoryj-nam-nuzhen.html
But the "global impact" of the lack of a powerful fleet in our country can already be seen - this is the imminent introduction of restrictions - the "ceiling" of oil prices in Europe. Which is going to be introduced by a banal refusal to insure (that is, guarantee the safety) of tankers carrying this very oil. The presence of a capable Navy capable of guaranteeing this security would make such an action meaningless.

Quote: Alexander Vorontsov

And instead of answering the question, would you prefer to clow again?

Read my article, which you undertook to quote, to the end. It contains the answer to your question.

The presence of aircraft carriers in the Russian Navy will be of significant political importance and will limit the ability of the US and NATO to "bring democracy" to other countries. At the same time, the absence of aircraft carriers will threaten our navy with disproportionate losses, even when participating in limited conflicts against less developed countries.

But, I repeat, all of the above is not a justification for the need for aircraft carriers as part of the Russian Navy. This is just my point of view on world politics and the participation of the Russian Navy in it. And nothing more.

In my opinion, the need for aircraft carriers in the Russian Navy stems from the need to solve completely different tasks: maintaining military-political stability at the global level and repelling aggression from oceanic directions.

Stability at the global level is NSNF, if anything.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: lucul

Well, why exactly an electromagnetic catapult

1. Ak. RAS Velikhov once said that we have finally resolved the issue with high-capacity drives ...
2. Electric machines are many times more productive than steam ones: they have an efficiency of 99%, for steam ones - max -20-25% ...
3. For sure it will be a nuclear power plant. And switching and managing electric power is much easier than with bulky steam valves. Then, a turbogenerator is preferable for power maneuvering than a steam boiler.
4. EMC is still more modern than a steam catapult. Yes, and the distillate consumption will not be the same at every start, as with a steam one.
5. The EMC is more maneuverable and load adjustment is easier when starting different load...
Somehow, however.

[Beregovic_1]

Not in Severodvinsk. The bulk pool is short in size and the width of the lock is small. This is if you build on an open slipway. It won't even enter the shop.

[bayard]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

in Yeysk I would build an EMC with all the ensuing consequences.

This would be the best choice of location. The Crimea became vulnerable, and the ski jumpers had to train there - "Kuzya" soon threatened to return to service.

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

And they will probably still build a flat-deck AVM in Severodvinsk. Others just won't pull through. There is no experience, competencies, trained personnel.

And here I do not agree. In Severodvinsk it is necessary to rebuild the hydraulic structures, and the climate is not conducive to year-round work. Yes, and this will seriously interfere with the construction of submarines.
Therefore, for the construction of light / medium ABs, it is more reasonable to organize in Kerch - on the "Gulf". There, the dock is suitable, and the climate, and logistics are much more convenient. Yes, the CVD will also have to be modernized, but supertankers, bulk carriers, lighter carriers (even one atomic) have already been built there. They are now trying to build the first two UDCs there.
But heavy nuclear ABs, if it ever comes to this, it is possible and necessary to build only in the Far East - on the Zvezda. For there they will serve later.
This is what I would have done - on the "Gulf" I would have laid 3 - 4 "light" ABs, VI 45 - 000 tons on a gas turbine, and 50 - 000 atomic ABs, I would have built on the Zvezda.
Why so many?
It is irrational to build less than 3 ABs of the same type, so that they can serve in turn, and do not stop services during the repair of one of them. And atomic AB is justified to have only on the Far East.
And if they are still going to build a test base for the EMC, then the Fleet and AB for it, they are still going to build with us ... Or again they are talking tongues.

[KCA]

And what should an aircraft carrier do in the Black Sea? The Turks will not be released through the straits, again to fence an aircraft-carrying cruiser?

[bayard]

And why do you not like the christening of an aircraft carrier into an aircraft carrier cruiser? Or will a pair of UKKS take up a lot of space? If they already manage to shove four UKKS (for 5400 missiles) into a ship with a full VI of 32 tons, then on a ship of 50 tons for a pair of UKKS for 000 missiles, there will somehow be a place. And it certainly won't hurt.
Moreover, to serve them all the same not there (Black Sea Fleet), but in the Northern Fleet, but with frequent campaigns and services in the Mediterranean.
Or, in your opinion, then the UDC that they are building now was laid in vain? Will the Turks release?
But even when laying the UDC, the Supreme Command said that if the construction of these ships goes well, then "there will be more serious orders for the plant", but "it's not the time to talk about it yet"

[Osipov9391]

In general, what aircraft carriers can we talk about now?
This year, as many as 3 Su-35S were transferred to the troops, they promise the same number of Su-57s.
There were also 4 Su-34s.
And in general, everything.
Instead of dozens lost.

Further, it is likely to return to the production of the Su-27SM and Su-30M2 even at best.
How to end the remnants of all the necessary imported materials and get up imported machines.

[bayard]

Quote: Osipov9391

This year, as many as 3 Su-35S were transferred to the troops, they promise the same number of Su-57s.
There were also 4 Su-34s.

Our production cycle is built in such a way that most of the products arrive by the end of the year.

Quote: Osipov9391

Then it is likely to return to the release of the Su-27SM and Su-30M2

Or maybe it's better to return to the IL-2?
Su-34 this year will be 8 pieces.
Su-35 - at least not less.
Su-57 is also a few more before the end of the year.
Next year - at least 12 pieces. each .
From 2024 - annually for 18 - 24 pcs. each type.
And the MiG-35s are also going into production.

[Konnick]

Or maybe it's better to return to the IL-2?

I understand that this is a joke, but in every joke there is only a fraction of a joke. Judging by the use of "attack" helicopters, which fire from their territory like simple MLRS, it is better to make the Mi-8 in a combat version, everything is cheaper and easier. And the rest of the aviation does not shine. And even better propeller attack aircraft as carriers of guided missiles. Much cheaper, and it's easier to teach them to fly.

[bayard]

Quote: Konnick

. Judging by the use of "attack" helicopters, which fire from their territory like simple MLRS, it is better to make the Mi-8 in a combat version, everything is cheaper and easier

The survivability is not the same, not the same sighting system (after all, they do not randomly launch NURs from a cabriolet. And not only NURs are armed, they also work with guided missiles. And the survivability of the Ka-52 and Mi-28 is much higher.

Quote: Konnick

and the rest of the aviation does not shine.

Not enough of it, cherish after considerable losses. During the battles near Kharkov \ Izyum \ Balakleya, the Aerospace Forces lost about five aircraft. And aviation worked there very actively. But the enemy's air defense was not suppressed.

Quote: Konnick

. And even better propeller attack aircraft as carriers of guided missiles.

Both unmanaged and FABs from them would be nice. But we don’t have such attack aircraft. And training screw for rework. And engines suitable to design such aircraft.
And the Army has been dreaming of such attack aircraft since the time of the war in Afghanistan. They were ordered and considered a number of projects. Did not have time .
In the last decade, they again wanted to, but ... there is no suitable engine with a capacity of 1000 - 1500 l / s. If an engine for the Kasatka or Ka-62 appeared ... but there have been no engines for 10 years. There are no pistons either.
I had a proposal to change the terms of reference and build such an attack aircraft for existing engines - an engine from the Mi-8\17\28\35. It is more powerful - about 2400 l / s. , but this is not bad - you can build a well-armored attack aircraft, with a high thrust-to-weight ratio and a bomb load - at the level of attack helicopters. But faster , able to be based on any highway or field airfield , inexpensive and practical . And exclusively on existing technologies and units.
But now we have to fight with what we have.
It is depressing that military thought has degraded and headquarters are unable to plan and conduct a high-quality operation to identify and suppress enemy air defenses.

[Konnick]

you can build a well-armored attack aircraft

There is no need for armor, since it is not necessary to enter the affected area. Use light attack aircraft paired with UAVs as mobile carriers of guided missiles with target designation and target illumination from UAVs. And the armor just gets in the way.

[bayard]

Quote: Konnick

No need for armor, since you don’t need to enter the affected area

But who will insure him from an ambush with MANPADS, or another threat from the ground or air. And the armored cabin is the protection of the pilot, which is much more valuable than the aircraft itself.

Quote: Konnick

Use light attack aircraft paired with UAVs as mobile carriers of guided missiles with target designation and target illumination from UAVs.

But the usual assault work for this is not canceled - there are different cases, and the goals are not always pinpoint. Sometimes it is more useful to work with both NURs and FABs.

Quote: Konnick

. And the armor just gets in the way.

This is with a weak engine.
If the "Super-Tucano" has an engine of 1000 - 1500 l / s, and at the same time an armored cabin, then I did not notice that the reservation interfered with it in any way. Our engine is 1,5 - 2 times more powerful, so the attack aircraft (glider) can be larger, and the cabin can be booked better, and the payload can be taken more, and fuel.
And at the same time, the price of such an aircraft will be at most half that of the Mi-28 (we don’t even talk about the Ka-52), the speed is two to three times higher, the payload is no less, and it can be based at any field airfield, section of the highway, or simply on a flat field.
It will also be possible to train pilots faster - this is essentially a combat training aircraft with attack aircraft options. In terms of piloting complexity, it is no more difficult than a conventional training Yak. On such an aircraft, even fans of flying clubs can be retrained on short-term courses. And pilots can be trained from scratch not for 5 years, but for 3-3,5 years. With retraining in the regiment.
but such a technical assignment should have been issued 8-10 years ago, and now the train has already left - the road is a spoon for dinner.

[Osipov9391]

What does the armored cabin of the Su-34 give?
At low altitude, aircraft are killed by MANPADS, the crew leaves it.
At medium and high altitudes, when hit by Buk or S-300 missiles, the crew dies, as in the case of Vladimir Fetisov, who was shot down on May 18 near Kupyansk.
And the armor on the Su-34 greatly reduces maneuverability and complicates the design of the aircraft.

[bayard]

There is no way for an attack aircraft without armor, it even calms the pilot psychologically. And the survival of the pilot increases. It's a stormtrooper. Try to object to the armor of the Su-25. And it will be the same, but screw and with a slightly lower speed.

[Osipov9391]

There are no jokes, the Su-57, Su-35S and Su-34 will be produced from old stocks of components.
Then everything will fall into place, I'm not talking about production equipment.
Varnishes, glues, paints, resins, sealants, compounds and electronics are all imported.
Therefore, the export of these aircraft can then generally be put an end to.
A few dozen will be released for themselves if that's good.

Whether the Su-27SM and Su-30M2 will be returned to production, I don’t know. But only they can probably do.

[KCA]

It's not about the size, the Turks do not let aircraft carriers and ships / ships with nuclear weapons through the straits

[bayard]

The Montreux Doctrine since the 30s. The USSR built aircraft carriers in Nikolaev, calling them aircraft-carrying cruisers. And all of them successfully passed the straits, returned to the Black Sea for repairs. And everything was fine with the Turks.
And now two UDCs are being built in the Gulf - also essentially aircraft carriers (aircraft carriers capable of basing helicopters and VTOL aircraft). Do you think they will serve on the Black Sea?

[Corrosion inhibitor]

It was not worth talking so much about the lunar tractor, especially now. It would not hurt to deal with sniper weapons first.
And then ... Lobaev - lobs, Strigunov - cuts, and Soldatenko and Praporenko - they still lick their paws, or something even worse ... in the absence of fish - and cancer is a fish.

[Alexey Polferov]

They can’t find a place for a catapult - laughter !!! Far Eastern hectare to help them, and a jigsaw to boot.

[Comrade I]

Maybe first revive naval aviation, launch modern torpedoes in normal quantities, equip the army with sights, build AWACS aircraft? And then this is it?

[lucul]

Maybe first revive naval aviation, launch modern torpedoes in normal quantities, equip the army with sights, build AWACS aircraft? And then this is it?

If you want to independently sell and transport oil, gas, coal, grain, fertilizers, etc. by sea, without blocking your ships, then you simply need a navy. If you will not trade by sea, then the navy is not needed either. ))))

[JD1979]

Already a whole pancake commission on something that one person can decide based on the recommendations of specialists. And since usually collective irresponsibility.

[Vadim Zhivov]

And it seems to me alone that everything is going according to such a plan. The main commission to create and stretch for years
That's why we build everything for decades and then we repair it for 20

[Zaurbek]

A catapult for 10 years ...... and you can launch not only planes .. and UAVs too. And a bunch of technologies that will be created within the framework of this program.

[Artillerieunteroffizier]

My suggestion for a place: Berlin. And there, little by little, Scholz, Burbock, Lambrecht, and so on are thrown out in a high arc into the Baltic Sea. This will solve several issues at once.

[Bolt cutter]

Berlin. And there, little by little, they throw out Scholz, Burbock, Lambrecht

In Germany, there are probably manufacturers of good boots - and the good old method in the ass with their kick .

[= VolodeY =]

Let the Ministry of Defense first provide the soldiers at the front with food, armor, helmets !!!!!!!!

[tralmaster]

So we will definitely take Nikolaev. It’s a pity the equipment there is already scrapped the whole building.

[Stepan S]

I think Nikolaev will be in the same condition as Mariupol, if not worse - only a full recovery

[guerilla707]

That's how we'll take it, then you'll say * gop "

[SSA]

Rave! Full! There is no naval aviation, no reconnaissance satellites, no modern RTR aircraft, no AWACS except for the huge A-50 and A-100, in completely meager quantities. We cannot saturate the ground forces with modern weapons and armor.

In terms of UAVs, Turkey (!!!) has already bypassed us, not to mention the USA ...

Damn ... "Moscow" was sunk in our own sea, enemies who don’t even have a fleet!

Guys, what the hell is an aircraft carrier?!

[Arkady007]

Well, already now the war in Ukraine shows the low efficiency of aircraft with pilots.
Everything goes to war on computers and UAVs. This is many times cheaper.

[Ryaruav]

R&D should be carried out to the best of our ability, but constantly, but you shouldn’t shout about it, especially about aircraft carriers that are as far as the horizon for us (yes, in principle, it’s possible, but now the priorities are completely different)

[Zadok]

Tales of Uncle Remus. what catapults, where are you going to put them. in the Kremlin to play Angry Birds?

[iouris]

We found time.
"If things are going badly, then you need to make it look good" \\ "Murphy's Law".

[Stepan S]

And what should be stopped and turned off? Sit and listen to the radio, when the shooting is over, then continue to work? The creation of a catapult will not be superfluous, especially since it has already come to testing, now to quit everything is then to start everything from the beginning.

[APASUS]

In Yeysk, in my opinion, it’s perfect, the landscape is just right there

[Stepan S]

According to an informed source, a special commission has been set up in the military department to determine where the new product will be tested.

How we like to create commissions, for any reason. Already created for the choice of location. But you can’t entrust this to an employee who “understands this” under his personal responsibility and let him choose, and the management will approve. And so it is possible to drag out the process for years, while the commission is working, and there are no guilty ones.

[km-21]

Do we have nowhere to put our money? Today, the army is sorely lacking the most elementary things - thermal imagers, walkie-talkies, drones, loitering ammunition ...
And if you seriously spend money on something, then first of all on the Strategic Missile Forces. When enough Sarmatians are on combat duty, then the time will come for the development of electromagnetic catapults. In the meantime, don't freak out. Today we urgently need to fight off the adversary, and in this war, electromagnetic catapults will definitely not help us. And you still have to try to survive until the next one.

[Kuziming]

Quote: lucul

Let's at least learn how to build destroyers and cruisers, otherwise we don't even know how to properly repair

In general, everything needs to be restored and modernized, no matter what.
Therefore, prioritization is important.
Your destroyers and cruisers, without an aircraft carrier (with AWACS aircraft) will simply be blind.

Great ambitions, it is high time for us to take a swing at our William Shakespeare!

[Lucy]

Now the Russian Federation is not up to aircraft carriers.

[Lucy]

And what is there for anything sensible to fly? The Indians are getting rid of the MiG-29, there is no special aviation, the PLA helicopters are 50 years old. At least something like Aegis created.