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The President of the Russian Federation set the defense industry the task of ensuring the supply of weapons to the troops as soon as possible

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The President of the Russian Federation set the defense industry the task of ensuring the supply of weapons to the troops as soon as possible

Today, September 20, Russian President Vladimir Putin held a meeting with the leadership of the Russian defense industry.


The head of state stressed that domestic weapons continue to improve. Russian engineers are making adjustments based on information gathered directly on the battlefield.

According to Vladimir Putin, the Defense Industrial Complex of the Russian Federation today makes an invaluable contribution to ensuring the security of Russia. At the same time, our weapons are also very popular among world importers. Thus, in the current year alone, the Russian defense industry has exported products worth about $6 billion.

Among other things, the President noted the high efficiency of the use of Russian weapons in the framework of the NMD in Ukraine, adding that our weapon not inferior to Western models.

At the same time, the President stressed that NATO is currently sending most of its weapons stocks to Ukraine. Consequently, Russia has the opportunity to thoroughly study foreign samples that have been taken as trophies.



Finally, Vladimir Putin set the defense industry the task of delivering weapons to the troops in the shortest possible time. At the same time, the President noted that the Defense Industrial Complex of the Russian Federation is exactly the area where import substitution programs should be fully implemented.
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  1. coinsam
    coinsam 20 September 2022 15: 57
    -10
    The commander-in-chief set the correct tasks.
    And it would be even more correct if he invited Kadyrov to this meeting and seated him next to him.
    Ramzan would not have to say anything. Just look sometimes, then at one, then at the other. And smile so kindly.
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 20 September 2022 16: 00
      +59
      Yes, it’s not Kadyrov here, it’s necessary to invite the Grand Inquisitor here .. Judging by the number of ghouls of all stripes that have bred, this is already work in his part ..
      1. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 20 September 2022 17: 59
        +23
        Yes, it’s not Kadyrov here, it’s necessary to invite the Grand Inquisitor here .. Judging by the number of ghouls of all stripes that have bred, this is already work in his part ..
        You don't have to go that far into history. We need Felix Edmundovich or Lavrenty Pavlovich.
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 20 September 2022 19: 45
          +3
          Of course, they were extremely talented people, but in order to fight frank evil spirits, professionals are still needed in this particular part ..
        2. Zyablicev43
          Zyablicev43 21 September 2022 11: 07
          +2
          Best of all at once, starting from Malyuta Skuratov ...
        3. ABC-schutze
          ABC-schutze 21 September 2022 11: 55
          +3
          The defense industry complex of Russia will fulfill its task "with a hook." No money here...

          But now, TODAY, after the announcement of partial mobilization, by the President, while preparations are underway, training of the conscripted contingent, the Supreme should be given an order to the leadership of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff, to begin strikes on "decision-making centers" of all levels (starting with the "highest") Kyiv Nazis and by their inhabitants.

          Not "demonstration" strikes, but CONTINUOUS, MASSIVE and TARGETED... And CONTINUOUS, MASSIVE strikes against the critical infrastructure of the Kyiv Nazi regime on the entire territory temporarily controlled by it must be continued...

          And the time will come, upon achieving the goals of the NWO and solving the tasks assigned to it, EVERYTHING that "suffered" Russia will restore. In a planned manner, thoroughly. But for YOURSELF...
          1. Alexander Grigoryev_2
            Alexander Grigoryev_2 21 September 2022 17: 10
            +2
            Exactly. Otherwise, the citizens of the Russian Federation will not understand.
        4. skeptic
          skeptic 21 September 2022 19: 39
          +4
          ... We need Felix Edmundovich or Lavrenty Pavlovich.


          Kadyrov will cope, the main thing is to give a license for shooting, ghouls, etc.
      2. Alf
        Alf 20 September 2022 18: 17
        +12
        Quote: paul3390
        Yes, it’s not Kadyrov here, it’s necessary to invite the Grand Inquisitor here .. Judging by the number of ghouls of all stripes that have bred, this is already work in his part ..

        So he would immediately begin with those present at the meeting ...
      3. Taimen
        Taimen 20 September 2022 18: 56
        +5
        Yes, Mr. Torquemada would take his soul away, cast out demons.
      4. Zoer
        Zoer 21 September 2022 13: 29
        -4
        Quote: paul3390
        Yes, it’s not Kadyrov here, it’s necessary to invite the Grand Inquisitor here .. Judging by the number of ghouls of all stripes that have bred, this is already work in his part ..

        What is most amusing and you need to look for them especially. The same Prigozhin, with his Concorde, is not bad, so the Ministry of Defense surrounded on contracts for services. Now aon, ha cares for his homeland.
        This is some nonsense. Dokptilis what is called ...
    2. Quote Lavrov
      Quote Lavrov 20 September 2022 16: 01
      +60
      The task is when with numbers, dates, names, personalities and measures of responsibility. Ok, I agree - numbers, dates - a secret. What about responsibility?
      And when the "task" looks like
      set the defense industry the task of delivering weapons to the troops in the shortest possible time

      I just want to clarify, but what, before there was a task to deliver to the troops as soon as possible? And who formed the GOZ program? And what measures have been taken against those who, in the conditions of the NMD, were waiting for this instruction from the president? But do we have the capacity to increase these deliveries, or how, only now we will urgently start building factories and strain science?
      1. barclay
        barclay 20 September 2022 16: 21
        +11
        Quote: Quote Lavrov
        I just want to clarify what...

        Apparently, there really are problems either with the delivery time, or with the quantity or quality of these very "weapons of destruction".
      2. man
        man 20 September 2022 16: 56
        +11
        The task is when with numbers, dates, names, personalities and measures of responsibility. Ok, I agree - numbers, dates - a secret. What about responsibility?
        Nothing to say
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 20 September 2022 19: 36
          +12
          Quote: mann
          The task is when with numbers, dates, names, personalities and measures of responsibility. Ok, I agree - numbers, dates - a secret. What about responsibility?
          Nothing to say

          I'll add it if you'd like.
          Today, an amendment was adopted to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation providing for liability for the disruption of the state defense order. Term up to 10 years.
          1. man
            man 20 September 2022 19: 47
            +9
            Today, an amendment was adopted to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation providing for liability for the disruption of the state defense order. Term up to 10 years.
            Well, an important step. I'm afraid the article would not have turned out to be dead ... or for the "switchmen". Let's see ...
      3. Piramidon
        Piramidon 20 September 2022 17: 14
        +5
        Quote: Quote Lavrov
        But what, before there was a task to deliver to the troops as soon as possible?

        Previously, deliveries were made according to plans and contracts. Now, apparently, the task is to increase the "turns". Producers, if not fools, should seize the opportunity to earn extra money.
        1. Andrey83
          Andrey83 20 September 2022 17: 40
          -1
          It turns out that everything that you do not produce, we will take everything?
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 20 September 2022 17: 57
            +3
            Quote: Andrey83
            It turns out that everything that you do not produce, we will take everything?

            Well, there is no need to interpret it so primitively. Of course, our aircraft do not need "nesting dolls" and "balalaikas". It is clear, after all, that it was about weapons already ordered, necessary for the army.
            P.S. I don’t understand, are you kidding (then at least stick emoticons) or really don’t understand what is at stake?
        2. Alf
          Alf 20 September 2022 18: 20
          +15
          Quote: Piramidon
          Manufacturers, if not fools, should seize the opportunity to earn extra money.

          Therefore, turners, millers, and highly qualified locksmiths are urgently needed. That's just where to get them urgently, in such quantity and qualifications?
        3. Quote Lavrov
          Quote Lavrov 20 September 2022 19: 40
          +12
          From the fact that milking a cow twice as often, she will not give more milk. Capacity building takes years
          1. Alf
            Alf 21 September 2022 19: 00
            +1
            Quote: Quote Lavrov
            Capacity building takes years

            And especially the number of those who should work at these capacities.
      4. wladimirjankov
        wladimirjankov 20 September 2022 19: 12
        +4
        and there is. Two repair plants for armored vehicles have just now been decided to be built.
      5. flicker
        flicker 20 September 2022 20: 33
        -5
        I just want to clarify, but what, before there was a task to deliver to the troops as soon as possible?
        He did not specify what kind of weapons he was talking about. Maybe about Zircon or Sarmat.
        Or maybe about an increased power aviation vacuum bomb (AVBPM)
        ---
        It looks like we are talking about something new and more powerful.
      6. Vladimir Postnikov
        Vladimir Postnikov 20 September 2022 21: 11
        0
        I was about to post the same thing, but I came across yours. I remember my childhood and youth. On the roof of every house is either "Glory to the CPSU!", or "Glory to the Soviet People!", or glory to something else. Then, in the seventies, the State Department launched other slogans to the people: “We will catch up and overtake America hanging over the abyss!”, or “Artilleryman, remember: Our goal is communism!”.
        Caught up and overtaken. Got it.
        Trendet - do not do (and means of destruction, too).
        There was no nail - the horseshoe was gone. ....

        Was it not V. Matvienko who lamented for an hour that there were no nails in Russia today?
      7. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 21 September 2022 08: 16
        0
        Quote: Quote Lavrov
        The task is when with numbers, dates, names, personalities and measures of responsibility. Ok, I agree - numbers, dates - a secret. What about responsibility?
        And when the "task" looks like
        set the defense industry the task of delivering weapons to the troops in the shortest possible time

        I just want to clarify, but what, before there was a task to deliver to the troops as soon as possible? And who formed the GOZ program? And what measures have been taken against those who, in the conditions of the NMD, were waiting for this instruction from the president? But do we have the capacity to increase these deliveries, or how, only now we will urgently start building factories and strain science?

        Already. The State Duma adopted a law on criminal liability for the repeated failure of the state order, and for the repeated refusal to fulfill state orders
      8. Sevastiec
        Sevastiec 21 September 2022 11: 39
        -1
        Quote: Quote Lavrov
        And we have the capacity to increase these deliveries


        From what I heard with my own ears - in a couple of factories where my friends / relatives work for me - starting from April, they increase their capacities at least twice. Plus, I heard that a light UAV plant is being built. It seems like they found some very gifted guy from the Donbass, who had been there for several years, collecting them from improvised materials, so he was assigned to this plant.
      9. Vimpelcom
        Vimpelcom 21 September 2022 15: 26
        -2
        They're talking about the Inquisitor, Beria... They're not interested. Military pensioners
      10. matsur
        matsur 21 September 2022 18: 47
        0
        Quote: Quote Lavrov
        What about responsibility?

        Anyone in the civil service is afraid of this word. Official, military, petty employee. All!
        Tomorrow you come to work - and everything is the same there, or even worse - the appearance of activity. A stormy appearance of stormy activity.
    3. Hey
      Hey 20 September 2022 16: 18
      +19
      The commander-in-chief set the correct tasks.

      But the implementation of these tasks is lame on all 4 legs and the same on the head.
      1. Greg Miller
        Greg Miller 20 September 2022 16: 36
        +27
        Empty chatter like the May decrees warms the souls of our officials better than a look at real production. Because if you look at the remnants of the Soviet military-industrial complex that are still afloat, it becomes clear that these industries are larger and better quality than now, it is impossible to produce military products ... It is much easier to organize some kind of exhibition for projectors, with "unparalleled in the world" samples with Ali-Express...
    4. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 20 September 2022 16: 28
      +41
      Even 9 women will not give birth to one child in 1 month.

      Personnel need to be taught somewhere. Now the recruitment to my faculty of engineer-technologist is minimal. Exactly as many as there are budget places. The number of groups has decreased, the number of graduating Polytechnics has decreased. So I'm not a rocket scientist. Simple engineer technologist for the processing of meat and meat products. (I can make stew for the army and all sorts of rations) .... and yes, young specialists do not prop me up.
      Whom will Ramzan force to work? Managers like Rogozin or Taburetkin?
      1. Ryaruav
        Ryaruav 20 September 2022 16: 40
        +10
        zaur, now competent process engineers are needed in all areas, we, like air, need to develop our technologies in all industries from galoshes to space, the redhead and associates all hijacked
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 20 September 2022 16: 57
        +4
        Quote: Zaurbek
        Now the recruitment to my faculty of engineer-technologist is minimal. Exactly as many as there are budget places. The number of groups has decreased, the number of graduating Polytechnics has decreased. T

        And maybe it's even better?
        I acted and studied in the Soviet Union, defended my diploma already in Russia. Among my fellow students, civil and industrial engineers, there is an oilman, sellers of food, clothes, furniture, a couple of teachers at school, employees of municipal administrations, three military men (and one served, for some reason, in the Strategic Missile Forces), a retired police colonel, taxi drivers , farmers... There is even one provincial drama theater actor. The percentage of those who, like me, connected their lives with construction, is 20-25%.

        So maybe it’s better to produce fewer specialists, but such that the budgetary and their own money does not fly into the pipe, so that they do in life what they were taught?

        I have a bricklayer with a Soviet (late 80s), university diploma in English philology. Studied in graduate school. Brick specialist - look for such a long, long time.
        Once I visited them at the facility on Builder's Day (if possible, I try to go around the facilities, congratulate the brigades personally), and, jokingly, asked him under a glass - does the graduate school help him to drive masonry cubes? Offended-pouted...
        1. Sergey Drozdov
          Sergey Drozdov 20 September 2022 17: 04
          +8
          Helps. Soviet capital education helps in everything - that put words into sentences, that bricks into a wall. Your philologist went by profession.
        2. Sergey250455
          Sergey250455 20 September 2022 17: 05
          +1
          More than 50 of us entered the Institute. 7 people reached the diploma. And I was the only one working in my specialty
        3. Urs
          Urs 20 September 2022 17: 24
          +8
          It's unfortunate, but the statistics show that more than 60 percent of graduates do not work in their specialty. These are lost jobs, these are not those who really could become a specialist. And this is in general for universities, and even worse for technical ones recourse
          1. Evgeny_Sviridenko
            Evgeny_Sviridenko 20 September 2022 18: 15
            +8
            And there is a solution to this problem. Read, watch the video with the neurobiologist Savelyev, everything is clearly explained about cerebral sorting. It's just that those in power themselves are afraid that, as a result of sorting, their intellect and abilities will be below the plinth. So this sorting should be carried out even before training. As in a big sport, they are already selected according to the results of genetic tests.
          2. sverviktor
            sverviktor 20 September 2022 19: 02
            +3
            "It's unfortunate, but the statistics show that more than 60 percent of graduates do not work in their specialty."
            It may be worth introducing a provision according to which a university graduate who has not worked in his specialty for a certain time within a certain period (the data for each area of ​​​​activity is different) must reimburse the state's costs for his education in a double amount (for payers in a single). In this case, a lot of mediocrity will be eliminated, who just need a diploma of higher education. At least applicants and their parents will be more careful in choosing a specialty ...
            1. Zik256x
              Zik256x 21 September 2022 11: 43
              +3
              Or maybe you ask yourself the question, where do they work in their specialty?
        4. dauria
          dauria 20 September 2022 17: 43
          +21
          and under a glass, jokingly, asked him - does the graduate school help him drive masonry cubes?

          There's no joke here, there's crying. They were shuttles in the 90s, but they went behind the counters, a candidate of physical and mathematical screwdriver with a grinder in his hands and "gypsum plaster" earned bread.
          Not because they cannot work according to their profession, but because there are no more professions.
          If, instead of masonry, he taught mind-reason for these 30 years of boobies, he wouldn’t have to gasp now, “Oh, where have we got our machines and microcircuits, and planes and turbine units” Here are the builders, yes - divorced. So they got lucky. And also trade, protection of all kinds and leisure organizers, from nightclubs to spas for purebred dogs.
          Turn the country into Namibia and wonder "Why the hell do we need so many philologists and astronomers?"
          1. Pereira
            Pereira 20 September 2022 17: 47
            +6
            Astronomers are not needed. There is not much to steal from them.
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 20 September 2022 18: 16
              +1
              Quote: Pereira
              Astronomers are not needed. There is not much to steal from them.

              This, Michael, how to look ...
              If astronomers are given binoculars, then yes. And build some super-duper telescope? I didn’t have to work in this direction, but experience tells me that the money there is crazy. First, it's a big deal. Secondly, the quality of work should be at the level. And these things usually do not spare money. I had to visit Baikonur, I saw it.
              I would do both the first and the second. But it seems that our country is not up to telescopes today.
          2. wladimirjankov
            wladimirjankov 20 September 2022 19: 59
            0
            and lawyers and economists in such numbers?
        5. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 20 September 2022 17: 55
          +8
          In my profession, education has not changed much. People eating sausage and meat too. It also does not depend on the Power (Tsar, Lenin, Biden). We can be counted based on the norms of consumption of Meat and meat products per capita. Simply, you need to understand that a specialist turns out to be 5 years of a polytechnic and 3-5 years of work in a specialty. Previously, nothing, even if you give a million
          1. cat Rusich
            cat Rusich 20 September 2022 21: 06
            +1
            Quote: Zaurbek
            In my profession, education has not changed much. People eating sausage and meat too. It also does not depend on the Power (Tsar, Lenin, Biden). We can be counted based on the norms of consumption of Meat and meat products per capita.
            And if it happens that they come to "power" vegetarians wassat Then what are you going to do...
            fellow
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 20 September 2022 21: 07
              +1
              This trend is .... And I will be it too
        6. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 20 September 2022 18: 06
          +4
          and under a glass, jokingly, asked him - does the graduate school help him drive masonry cubes?
          Well, my friend with a red diploma from physics and technology became a shopkeeper in the 90s, in his best years he kept 12 stalls in the city. I kept urging him on - why wouldn't he hang a red diploma in a frame in his office? I myself have a blue diploma, but I did not sign up for the shopkeepers. In very bad times, he led high-rise workers at a construction site (promalp). The workers were former climbers from the Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology, Baumanka, etc. Then things got better, construction was over for me.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 20 September 2022 18: 24
            +4
            Quote: Aviator_
            my friend with honors

            Quote: Aviator_
            I myself with a blue diploma

            We were told that it is better to have a blue diploma and a red face than a red diploma and a blue face. lol

            I have an average diploma. He studied like the vast majority - not an excellent student, not a chronic "tail" (from the word "tail"). And, of course, a diploma is not a guarantee of a good specialist. Everything comes with practice.
          2. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 20 September 2022 19: 00
            +1
            In our specialized university in Moscow, they gave good mountain training in physical education ....
      3. Hypertension
        Hypertension 20 September 2022 18: 49
        +2
        Quote: Zaurbek
        Personnel need to be taught somewhere. Now the recruitment to my faculty of engineer-technologist is minimal.

        For some reason, foreign students have where and what to teach ...
        In the 2023 academic year, the number of budget places allocated for the education of foreign citizens in Russian universities will increase by 12 compared to the current year and amount to 30, the Ministry of Education and Science reported.
        Generous soul Russia. But not for everyone...
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 20 September 2022 21: 09
          +1
          Engineers are not respected these days. Teaching others
    5. alexmach
      alexmach 20 September 2022 16: 28
      +11
      The commander-in-chief set the correct tasks.

      Half a year after the start of the operation ... if only a few years before it ...
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 20 September 2022 21: 10
        +2
        Since about 2014 ..... And even since 2008
    6. Jura 27
      Jura 27 20 September 2022 17: 05
      +9
      There is no time for buildup (s). Grandfather woke up six months later. The main thing is to allocate more funding, then all the necessary funds will easily appear, Chinese and other countries, of course with stickers - "Made in the Russian Federation."
    7. AlexeyEg
      AlexeyEg 20 September 2022 18: 39
      0
      Everyone in our country loves through a stick, not a carrot. Here they run, frames.
    8. chetvertak
      chetvertak 21 September 2022 12: 32
      -1
      And for 5 years, what did the GDP and the Ministry of Defense do? The Ukrainian authorities openly declared everything! So we come to the conclusion that everything that they told us from the Ministry of Defense is a lie, a fake for the population. nothing turns out!
  2. paul3390
    paul3390 20 September 2022 15: 58
    +27
    And BEFORE the start of this entire operation - could such an order be given in any way? what
    1. Andy_nsk
      Andy_nsk 20 September 2022 16: 03
      -18
      I think that BEFORE THE President did not have enough complete information, firstly, about how many and what kind of weapons would be required to complete the task, and secondly, the ability of the military-industrial complex to supply products in the required volumes was somewhat illusory.
      1. Urs
        Urs 20 September 2022 17: 31
        +3
        I agree it is quite possible that it was so. Another thing worries me more that no one will answer for this now and not tomorrow. Impunity without responsibility is our worst scourge. through the eyes of every officer.
      2. chetvertak
        chetvertak 21 September 2022 12: 50
        -1
        The GDP is stupid! Everything is written on the wiki, about the T-72, B3mT-90 (M), also about the BMP. You can read and count in pieces how the contracts were carried out and in what quantities they were delivered to the troops
    2. Letun
      Letun 20 September 2022 16: 04
      +35
      Quote: paul3390
      And BEFORE the start of this entire operation - could such an order be given in any way? what

      Before the start of the operation, it was assumed that the appeal of the VVP with menacingly knitted eyebrows to the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with a proposal to surrender would be enough. Didn't roll...
      1. jovanni
        jovanni 20 September 2022 16: 33
        +14
        Quote: Letun
        Before the start of the operation, it was assumed that the appeal of the VVP with menacingly knitted eyebrows to the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with a proposal to surrender would be enough. Didn't roll...

        Do you think it will work with gunsmiths?
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 20 September 2022 17: 48
          +3
          Give a ride. Have you read the news about the criminal punishment for refusing a government order? Servants of the people made a fuss especially for this meeting.
          1. Alf
            Alf 20 September 2022 18: 26
            +3
            Quote: Pereira
            Have you read the news about the criminal punishment for refusing a government order?

            And no one will refuse, they will simply take the order and begin to refer to "objective circumstances" in the course.
    3. Beetle1991
      Beetle1991 20 September 2022 16: 23
      +10
      And what's the point?
      The rearmament program has been carried out.
      The troops have more than 70% of the latest or modernized equipment.
      The task was set, the task was completed.

      It is probably useless to set the task of transplanting a heart to a nurse or a nurse. It needs a surgeon.
      It's pointless to demand a good result from incompetent people.
      And then
      adding that our weapons are not inferior to Western models.

      Well, if it’s not inferior, then it doesn’t really need to be improved. Such is the logic.

      But the fighters are super-maneuverable and the paratroopers break bricks with their heads. It remains only to find an enemy fighter without missiles in battle and impose a dog fight on it, or, well, the paratroopers look for enemy infantrymen without machine guns in order to pierce their chest with their foreheads.
      Korotchenko will not deceive.

      1. jovanni
        jovanni 20 September 2022 16: 36
        +15
        Quote: Beetle1991
        Korotchenko will not deceive.

        These are the balabols the chief commander of the campaign heard enough before the NWO ...
      2. Zheka-Filimonov
        Zheka-Filimonov 20 September 2022 16: 45
        +7
        This video already looks like stand-up fellow
      3. chetvertak
        chetvertak 21 September 2022 13: 00
        -1
        So the talk show people rubbed their nonsense on us for 5 years, and we listened to it all and believed until the Kharkov flight. But we had to understand that the talk show people didn’t hang noodles on us for free! .You listened to all this for free, and they received a salary on TV for their nonsense. 2-3 years ago and went on the Internet how much talk show hosts and Ukrainian political scientists earn with ours. A minimum of 500 thousand rubles to 1 million per month, and that's just on the Russian Federation, not counting the parliamentary ones, and their fund-led strategy funds. They stuck their chats on social networks where they never answer anyone in the comments
        HERE IS AN EXAMPLE vk-60min
        If you have questions for Olga Skabeeva - ask them in this thread.
        We will collect all your questions (at least 10) and send them in a collective letter to the editors of the All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company. We hope Olga will take the time to read and answer essentially each.
    4. Crete 25
      Crete 25 20 September 2022 16: 35
      +9
      This is from "Ural dumplings":
      - Have you baked bread?
      - Baked.
      -And where he?
      - I didn't bake it.
      "Then why do you say you baked it?"
      -I thought I baked...

      Until the executors of the tasks are under proper control and the threat of a 25-year term for treason in case of non-fulfillment, these dialogues will go on ...
  3. Ivan Ivanov
    Ivan Ivanov 20 September 2022 15: 59
    +12
    The main thing is that those responsible are appointed, the necessary funds are allocated, the stick and the carrot is clear to the performers, so that it does not work out like with "25 million high-tech jobs." The situation is not the same.
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 20 September 2022 16: 02
      +19
      But I’m wondering - did anyone even count how many instructions from our guarantor were fulfilled in 22 years? what And how much - frankly scored? what

      And then we heard plenty of promises, very different, but with real deeds - but somehow it’s not a cake .. Until they start severely punishing for non-fulfillment, everything will remain verbiage ..
      1. Zheka-Filimonov
        Zheka-Filimonov 20 September 2022 16: 48
        +3
        In response to your question, Slepakov sang a song a long time ago!
      2. your1970
        your1970 20 September 2022 17: 08
        -2
        Quote: paul3390
        Until they begin to severely punish for non-performance, everything will remain verbiage..

        There was such an I.V. Stalin - it is impossible to rank among liberals or weaklings even in theory. And he had General Zhigarev, commander of aviation ...
        And in the fall of 1941, in full swing - this Zhigarev lied to EYES Stalin, in the question of why, 702 (!!!!!!!!) aircraft did not arrive at the front. Through the fault of Zhigarev, by the way ....
        I remind you - the Germans almost in Moscow, commander of aviation lies in the eyes to the front not received 702(!!!) aircraft..
        I am a quiet peaceful person - I would just screw it up to death ... myself, personally ...
        Shchaz ... I'm not Stalin, nifiga ...
        Zhigarev was sent as a general (!!!!) to the Far East (!!!!) (to the deepest rear) aviation to continue to command (!!!!)
        I would have screwed up - Stalin forgave me ("What a trifle - there are 702 fewer aircraft at the front, ....").
        This is to the question of the inevitability of punishment and harsh punishment for non-compliance.
        On the facts - all questions to Golovanov, from his memoirs
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 20 September 2022 18: 00
          +3
          April 42.
          "Removed from the post of commander of the Red Army Air Force and appointed commander of the Air Force of the rear of the Far Eastern Front"

          First, this is a significant downgrade.
          Secondly, he proved himself well in battle.
          The order of Lenin (22.10.1941);
          Order of the Red Banner (14.03.1938/XNUMX/XNUMX);
          Order of the Red Star (25.05.1936/XNUMX/XNUMX);
          Plus, he got a good deal of orders during the war with Japan.
          Supply - not his path.
          I think Stalin understood this no worse than you and me.
          1. your1970
            your1970 20 September 2022 18: 15
            -5
            Quote: Pereira
            First, this is a significant reduction

            Well, yes, significant .... There are no Germans even in theory ...
            Quote: Pereira
            Secondly, he proved himself well in battle.

            AND? General Vlasov, for example, showed himself well in the Battle of Moscow ... understand and forgive, for past merits?
            Quote: Pereira
            Supply - not his path.
            - he had to organize and drive suppliers
            Quote: Pereira
            I think Stalin understood this no worse than you and me.

            Stalin formulated it a little differently: "No one with anyone .." (not literally)

            For some reason, I’m sure that in the Luftwaffe at that moment there were as many planes in total - how many, through his fault, didn’t get to the front ...
            702 (!!!!!) aircraft .... how many infantry died from this, horror ....
        2. chetvertak
          chetvertak 21 September 2022 13: 33
          -1
          I also wanted to provide this story here! But I vaguely remember who and with whom, but I was too lazy to search on the Internet. It’s good that such a commentator as you posted this story. how many are ready, how many are under repair, etc. The error went into one plane
    2. nils
      nils 20 September 2022 16: 15
      +15
      Quote: IvanIvanov
      The main thing is that those responsible are appointed

      That's right, and disperse the liberals!
      Shuvalov - yours. At Vnesheconombank. Let him poke around there.
      Dvorkovich - to the chair of the head of Skolkovo, well, to the heap - to the board of directors of Russian Railways.
      Serdyukov as Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Aircraft Corporation, Vice-President of the Union of Mechanical Engineers of Russia,
      Siluanov - Minister of Finance.
      Rogozin, the ideologist of space trampolining, must be ruthlessly driven away from the military-industrial complex. Only space. Well, tea, it's not the Queen's pots that are burned.
      Kudrin, a hireling of the world bourgeoisie, should be driven under the bunk altogether - put on the Accounts Chamber.
      Nabiullina - Chairman of the Central Bank.
      In general, our president has heard people's aspirations. And other liberals likewise, pissing rags. Now let's live! Hold on you bastards!
  4. Alexfly
    Alexfly 20 September 2022 16: 01
    -2
    Yes, most likely inferior in accuracy and mobility, as well as in ......
  5. I dare to_notice_
    I dare to_notice_ 20 September 2022 16: 04
    +3
    Stop.
    And before that, the defense industry did not have such a task?! ..
    Seriously?!..
    Cons will confirm - "it was not."
  6. NightmareIvanych
    NightmareIvanych 20 September 2022 16: 08
    +10
    Consequently, Russia has the opportunity to thoroughly study foreign samples that have been taken as trophies.

    I wonder if he knows about the T-90M that fell into the hands of enemies? feel
    1. FoBoss_V
      FoBoss_V 20 September 2022 16: 20
      +13
      And about the suns left near Kharkov in their original form, too
      1. Comrade I
        Comrade I 20 September 2022 17: 54
        +5
        Wait, did we... also leave them there?! I wonder if it's ammo or not...
        1. Caruso
          Caruso 20 September 2022 18: 34
          -2
          And yak zhezh is a whole artillery arsenal in Balakliya. There is ammunition for all types of weapons. For TOS-s, of course.
          1. lopvlad
            lopvlad 22 September 2022 06: 25
            0
            Quote from caruso
            For TOS-s, of course.


            to properly troll you need to be what is called in the topic.
            And the topic is that neither the Ukrainian SSR nor the independent Ukraine TOS has ever been in service, and therefore there cannot be ammunition for it in the artillery arsenal in Balakliya, by definition.
    2. lopvlad
      lopvlad 20 September 2022 16: 21
      +6
      Quote: Nightmare Ivanych
      T-90M


      it has long been plowed up by Western specialists even before the NWO, since Russia sells it all over the world, in particular to US friends.
      1. NightmareIvanych
        NightmareIvanych 20 September 2022 19: 41
        0
        The T-90MS is exported. I am not a UVZ specialist, but I assume that at least the electronic filling is different there.
        1. lopvlad
          lopvlad 21 September 2022 12: 43
          0
          Quote: Nightmare Ivanych
          at least, the electronic filling is different there.


          something that represented at least some value for the enemy there, I think it was torn out or destroyed before being thrown, especially since this is a matter of a maximum of 10 minutes.
    3. Charik
      Charik 20 September 2022 20: 54
      0
      "He got lost", by analogy with other tragic incidents
  7. lopvlad
    lopvlad 20 September 2022 16: 19
    +1
    The President of the Russian Federation set the defense industry the task of ensuring the supply of weapons to the troops as soon as possible


    Well, finally, after all, this task should have been set at the beginning of the SVO, as well as introducing criminal liability for non-fulfillment and sabotage. But now they are just beginning to sway, namely, to set tasks and introduce criminal liability for their non-fulfillment.
    1. chetvertak
      chetvertak 21 September 2022 14: 00
      -1
      The task should be set about the mobilization of the military-industrial complex from 2016. This was already evident. But the GDP kept saying what kind of prefection we had, the Minsk Doges, trying to shove the LDNR into Ukraine in order to preserve Ukraine created by the Bolsheviks. Our authorities turned a blind eye to the law in Ukraine on decommunization on May 15, 2015 "law." socialist (Nazi) totalitarian regimes in Ukraine and the prohibition of propaganda of their symbols "(law No. 317-VIII) and the law on the Ukrainian language (On ensuring the functioning of the Ukrainian language as the state language" dated January 16, 2020 signed by Ze. But only according to these laws adopted in Ukraine , we already had the right to decommunize Ukraine! Without inventing denazification, but put deukrainization in line with decommunization. And the law on the Ukrainian language is a pure copy of the Bolshevik Ukrainization of 1921-32, the Ukrainization of Western Ukraine (Galicia) in 1939 after joining the Ukrainian SSR
  8. gromovanton
    gromovanton 20 September 2022 16: 25
    +2
    We like to be hit with a fist at the top and demanded. So to say that people can see that people are working. The fist was banged. Let's look at the results. I'll be really happy if it helps.
    1. Alf
      Alf 20 September 2022 18: 29
      +8
      Quote: gromovanton
      Fist banged

      Previously, they also knocked, and threw the pen in their hearts on the table, en "couldn't" ..
  9. Above_name
    Above_name 20 September 2022 16: 25
    +4
    "You have not been active as a commentator for a long time. Voting is prohibited "
    Admins - And?
  10. JD1979
    JD1979 20 September 2022 16: 28
    +6
    And when the task will be set to ensure the responsibility of officials at all levels for their decisions. And then you already want to just laugh when one says to do it urgently, while others, to themselves - yeah, shchazz fled.
  11. Joker62
    Joker62 20 September 2022 16: 33
    +2
    Quote: paul3390
    Yes, it’s not Kadyrov here, it’s necessary to invite the Grand Inquisitor here .. Judging by the number of ghouls of all stripes that have bred, this is already work in his part ..

    Tell me, my dear, who is in our role as the "Grand Inquisitor" ??? what
  12. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 20 September 2022 16: 35
    0
    What is the "device" in the photo?
    1. Thorvlobnor IV
      Thorvlobnor IV 20 September 2022 19: 09
      0
      This is TOS-2 "Tosochka". By the way, in the NWO you can’t see it, it seems.
  13. rocket757
    rocket757 20 September 2022 16: 39
    +4
    The President of the Russian Federation set the defense industry the task of ensuring the supply of weapons to the troops as soon as possible
    . You might think that this task was not before the defense industry complex ???
    We will have to write again and again that WE WILL SEE who and how copes with the tasks set, and there ... but there, there it will be.
    1. Alf
      Alf 20 September 2022 18: 34
      +4
      Quote: rocket757
      We'll have to write again and again what we WILL LOOK at,

      As always. We will hold a round table on the problems of the military-industrial complex. We will develop a concept for the development of the military-industrial complex. We will build a strategy for the development of the military-industrial complex. We will create a profile committee. We will instruct the relevant ministries to submit applications. We will instruct the Central Bank to find and allocate funds. We will create a supervisory body to oversee the implementation of the presidential decree. So, wait a minute... What? Is SVO already over? OK...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 20 September 2022 18: 43
        +2
        As always ... when you need to do something without doing anything, schedule meetings, organize commissions, and so on down the list!
        Our ancestors had a clear recipe for just such cases ... they quickly organized a "resort" for the slow-witted and irresponsible, for cleaning snow in Magadan, felling forests in the taiga, and for the most "talented", greenery and ...
        Everything is fast, efficient and effective.
        1. Alf
          Alf 20 September 2022 18: 45
          0
          Quote: rocket757
          As always ... when you need to do something without doing anything, schedule meetings, organize commissions, and so on down the list!
          Our ancestors had a clear recipe for just such cases ... they quickly organized a "resort" for the slow-witted and irresponsible, for cleaning snow in Magadan, felling forests in the taiga, and for the most "talented", greenery and ...
          Everything is fast, efficient and effective.

          "That's not our method!"
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 20 September 2022 18: 50
            +4
            This may not be their method, but I, the ancestors, have all the respect!!!
            They knew how to beat enemies, they knew how to build and ... they knew how to do a lot, not like the current, unfinished ones!
            1. Alf
              Alf 20 September 2022 19: 21
              +2
              Quote: rocket757
              and I, to the ancestors, treat with all respect !!!

              hi
      2. chetvertak
        chetvertak 21 September 2022 14: 17
        0
        This is how 20 years of GDP passed! There you also need to write about the endless "optimizations" in the social sphere, the May decrees, the 20 x 20 program.
        annulment of the terms of the president, and endless amendments to the presidential election.
  14. free
    free 20 September 2022 16: 43
    -7
    I hope the task has been put under strict control with the punishment of those responsible for non-performance or sabotage, it’s no longer a joke, we are at war with the West, with their weapons and economies
  15. GNSh-2
    GNSh-2 20 September 2022 16: 44
    -1
    Thus, in the current year alone, the Russian defense industry has exported products worth about $6 billion.

    I was not too lazy to look at the statistics. In 2021, it was exported for 15 billion!!! That is, even if by the end of the year (in three months) we export at least 4 billion more, it will turn out to be about 10, which indicates a collapse in sales by 30%, and in general, judging by recent events, Ukraine turned out to be the main importer, which is only worth the signed her an act of acceptance of new equipment in Izyum.
    Sorry, but I could not resist a caustic comment, I really would have been silent about the collapsed export against the backdrop of sanctions without passing it off as a success
    1. chetvertak
      chetvertak 21 September 2022 14: 31
      -1
      For 1 trillion rubles! So that's why, under the word "high cost", we exposed the defense industry in the ground forces and air forces.! It was not profitable for ourselves to do everything for export for the sake of export. And we were told about 70-80% of mechanized equipment in the troops .What can I say, when it was opened, about first-aid kits for military personnel and what quality of equipment they give out for fighters in their own. Yes, so they buy everything at their own expense. This is the "optimization" of the budget for Russian military personnel
      For this, you need to shoot the entire VVP team with him
  16. gromit
    gromit 20 September 2022 16: 46
    +12
    Ha ha, put the means of destruction ..
    Means of destruction were supplied long ago and in sufficient quantities.
    Corruption, nepotism, fraud, outright theft and lies.
    Prepared for defeat to glory.
    But we will definitely cope, we will put thousands of corpses in the place where modern science and technology should have been, along with decency, and we will manage. Palaces and yachts will not be affected.
  17. Maks1995
    Maks1995 20 September 2022 16: 47
    +8
    That's right, common words.
    The GDP has previously issued May decrees, set tasks, announced desires .... and then simply scolded for non-compliance ... or simply did not ask publicly ...

    I don’t remember a PR task for something that was completed accurately and on time ...
  18. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 20 September 2022 16: 50
    +10
    Collapse. Further it will be even worse. The oligarchy degreased not only the whole country by sucking trillions of dollars, but apparently the army as well. Nothing new.
  19. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 20 September 2022 17: 07
    0
    I suppose that Putin said this not in the sense of equipping the active units of the RF Armed Forces, but about the need to have weapons and equipment for those mobilized in the RF Armed Forces after the declaration of war and mobilization.
    1. Old Horseradish
      Old Horseradish 20 September 2022 17: 25
      +4
      There is a lot of material on the Internet than the militias are armed with. For example, Mosin rifles.
  20. 1939_1940
    1939_1940 20 September 2022 17: 20
    +3
    Now, how everything will turn around .. And let's issue weapons one by one to the mountain ..
    1. Alf
      Alf 20 September 2022 18: 37
      +1
      Quote: 1939_1940
      And let's issue weapons one by one to the mountain ..

      Just have time to customize the wagons.
  21. ivan2022
    ivan2022 20 September 2022 17: 24
    +3
    Quote: Ryaruav
    zaur, now competent process engineers are needed in all areas, we, like air, need to develop our technologies in all industries from galoshes to space, the redhead and associates all hijacked

    Where are the job ads? In addition to couriers, sales managers and escort services....

    Do you know that technologies are not developed by technologists?
    Process engineer works in production and operation.
    If this production exists. And in the absence of it, he sells trousers in the clothing market.
    1. Petr_Koldunov
      Petr_Koldunov 20 September 2022 17: 30
      +3
      Quote: ivan2022
      Do you know that technologies are not developed by technologists?

      By the way, you are absolutely right: the technologist works with ready-made technology. In fact, it is needed in production to control the correct application of this technology.

      Another thing is that the brain of a process engineer is already developed enough to give out his own ideas on his own. For example, my own uncle in the old years of developed socialism was the deputy GT of a huge plant. So he had about a dozen of his own inventions. Two of them even received patents as inventions.
      Because engineering thought is the property of any qualified talented engineer :))
  22. Petr_Koldunov
    Petr_Koldunov 20 September 2022 17: 27
    +2
    The President of the Russian Federation set the defense industry the task of ensuring the supply of weapons to the troops as soon as possible

    And let them already ensure the supply of VICTORY means to the troops!
    1. sergo1914
      sergo1914 20 September 2022 18: 21
      +1
      Quote: Peter_Koldunov
      The President of the Russian Federation set the defense industry the task of ensuring the supply of weapons to the troops as soon as possible

      And let them already ensure the supply of VICTORY means to the troops!


      Thin. Plus from me. But now the employees will come running and minus
  23. jaroff
    jaroff 20 September 2022 17: 52
    -2
    Ammo is running low, it seems. This is logical. At this intensity. We need to increase production.
  24. bovi
    bovi 20 September 2022 18: 10
    +3
    How long ago did the military-industrial complex begin to be called the defense industry complex? purely stylistic semantic substitution became curious to me.
    1. Amper
      Amper 20 September 2022 19: 39
      +1
      So long ago! About 20 years. Light, well-known punctures even went on the air. Cases of Serdyukov, Vasilyeva. But in general, her deadly hand lies on the preparation of the Armed Forces for hostilities, and her metastases were opened during their conduct in all forms. crying
  25. sergo1914
    sergo1914 20 September 2022 18: 20
    +2
    Well, in principle, the algorithm is clear. Mobilize everyone. Then, but as soon as possible, bring up "means of destruction." In addition, you need them much less. The mobilized will get it themselves. Ukrainians scatter equipment and weapons like sowers. Judging by the carts of military correspondents.
    PS No, you didn't guess, not CIPSO.
  26. thrush68
    thrush68 20 September 2022 18: 54
    +1
    We just need personal responsibility for not following the presidential decrees. But no one is responsible for anything here. Therefore, there is a mess in the defense industry, construction and in general in the country. fees for UAVs, thermal imagers and other goodies for the army. Someone will answer for this shame.
  27. Amper
    Amper 20 September 2022 19: 29
    0
    Lawrence! From the testimony of one manager, it became known that they sold modern weapons worth 6 billion dollars to the side! This is at a time when our Army needs it to fight the fascist evil spirits, when OUR Army and OUR allies in the Donbass are experiencing an acute shortage of it in the troops! am What should be done with such a manager? And whose manager is this? Who allowed him to control !!!? am am
  28. wladimirjankov
    wladimirjankov 20 September 2022 20: 04
    0
    it seems that our army is running out of missiles and shells at such a stupid expense.
  29. Sergey3
    Sergey3 20 September 2022 20: 07
    0
    Unfortunately, the Americans also have something to study, yesterday I watched a video of the Ukrainians, how they captured the T-90 tank, a complete breakthrough not lined with a camouflage thermal cape. Most likely he is already in Poland, on his way to the USA.
  30. Assyrian
    Assyrian 20 September 2022 22: 06
    +1
    Quote: Quote Lavrov
    I just want to clarify, but what, before there was a task to deliver to the troops as soon as possible? And who formed the GOZ program? And what measures have been taken against those who, in the conditions of the NMD, were waiting for this instruction from the president? But do we have the capacity to increase these deliveries, or how, only now we will urgently start building factories and strain science?

    Yesterday I watched a video about the president's instructions to the government. Officially, less than half of all orders are being fulfilled, the most indifferent - the Ministry of Finance, less than a third. If my words at work would have been treated as cheerfully, they would have been crippled or at least fired a long time ago.
  31. ketanov1980
    ketanov1980 20 September 2022 22: 47
    0
    It is necessary to introduce personal liability (preferably criminal) for each direction of the state defense order.
    1. Sergey3
      Sergey3 21 September 2022 19: 24
      0
      Will they give money to do it? Or, as usual, get out as best you can, take an expensive loan from a bank?
  32. Alex_Bora
    Alex_Bora 21 September 2022 07: 48
    0
    Quote: Jovanni
    Quote: Beetle1991
    Korotchenko will not deceive.

    These are the balabols the chief commander of the campaign heard enough before the NWO ...

    Korotchenko, Murakhovsky and many others - most of them are former political workers.

    A quote from one of the political officers with a sense of humor from the time of the "carriage parade" at one party meeting:
    "The pilots of our regiment will carry out any task of ANY government."

    These are professional balabols. They play for money.
  33. Hadji Murat
    Hadji Murat 21 September 2022 08: 09
    +1
    Who is in charge of Rostec? Chemezov! It doesn't care at all
  34. APASUS
    APASUS 21 September 2022 08: 50
    +1
    When the Central Bank turns its face to industry, then everything will be fine. Otherwise, they bought American receipts until the last, 300 billion left over the hill
  35. Mazunga
    Mazunga 21 September 2022 09: 17
    +1
    I feel a revival in our gallery))) this is how much you can cut and invest in the same yuan))) in accordance with the theory of diversification, everything is scientific
  36. Awaz
    Awaz 21 September 2022 09: 30
    0
    and what did they do before that? Who is responsible for the mess and losses?
  37. TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 21 September 2022 10: 00
    -1
    All right! The president has finally woken up. I recognize that strong, strong-willed Supreme High Command, whom I knew during my military service. Just let him not forget to call to account all those who planned the NWO with a lightning-fast blitzkrieg on the floor of a bump.
    1. chetvertak
      chetvertak 21 September 2022 14: 41
      -2
      He woke up and fell asleep again for 4 years, he would wake up by the next presidential election, for another cancellation of the term.
  38. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 21 September 2022 10: 06
    +2
    Demonstrative trials of stealing officials, heads of budgetary and defense enterprises are very necessary for the country in the current situation. Only a "sword of Damocles" hanging over your head will force some officials / leaders to work as expected or leave a warm place.
  39. Baikal57
    Baikal57 21 September 2022 13: 14
    0
    I proceed from the fact that the maternal grandfather of S.K. Shoigu is a Voronezh Jew and a veteran of the Second World War, he is smart by birth, Puttun Moge and Sergey Kuzhuget are Tuvan epic heroes.
  40. the same doctor
    the same doctor 21 September 2022 19: 33
    0
    Did he give money? Contests and other forms of selection of promising ideas announced? For example, I'm thinking about how to make a really usable robot machine gun. Where to sell an idea?
  41. iouris
    iouris 21 September 2022 21: 40
    0
    Reconnaissance-strike complex? UAV with high-resolution cameras and real-time image transmission? "Relight"? EW systems capable of blinding everything?