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In the German press: We need to look for opportunities for dialogue with the Russian Federation, and not argue about the supply of weapons to Kyiv

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In the German press: We need to look for opportunities for dialogue with the Russian Federation, and not argue about the supply of weapons to Kyiv

German politicians need to look for opportunities for dialogue with the Russian Federation, and not to argue about supplies weapons Kyiv. This is how you can increase the chances of resolving the conflict in Ukraine.


Sabine Rennefants writes about this in an article for the German magazine Der Spiegel.

She believes that the German authorities should do everything possible so that the dialogue with the Russian leadership is not interrupted. But, as noted in the German press, politicians in Berlin are instead engaged in unnecessary discussions about the supply of weapons for the Ukrainian army.

They are divided into two camps and argue among themselves. Free Democrats and the Greens are in one camp, and the Social Democrats, led by German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, are in the other. The former demand an increase in military support for Kyiv, while the latter advocate restraint in this matter. The so-called "hawks" offer Berlin to take the lead and lead other countries in helping Ukraine.

News? Whom? EU? NATO? Where?

- Rennefants expresses his bewilderment.

For some reason, the German Greens and Social Democrats believe that the more weapons Kyiv gets, the sooner peace will come to Ukraine.

A journalist from Germany believes that the approach should be completely different. In her opinion, it is necessary, without stopping to provide military assistance to the Kyiv regime, to make every effort to achieve a peaceful settlement through diplomacy.

Perhaps the desire of the West to negotiate peace in Ukraine would have made sense in the first days or even weeks of a special military operation, but now such a dialogue is hardly possible. Before talking about negotiations, Western countries should be ready to lift all sanctions, compensate Russia for losses and take more seriously the security guarantees offered by Moscow even before the NMD.
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  1. Pharmacist
    Pharmacist 17 September 2022 09: 36
    +6
    They can argue even to the point of numbness, but in the end a gentleman from Washington will come and judge everything! laughing
    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 17 September 2022 09: 38
      +4
      Quote from Pharmacist
      They can argue even to the point of numbness, but in the end a gentleman from Washington will come and judge everything! laughing
      And after him, quite unexpectedly - WINTER!
      1. Russian
        Russian 17 September 2022 10: 01
        +2
        It's beautifully written:
        should be ready to remove all sanctions, compensate Russia for losses and take more seriously the security guarantees offered by Moscow even before the NWO.

        Only for the time being, only one concession of "good will" on our part: they left the Serpent, Kyiv region, Sumy, Kharkov. We went on the most part of the front into a dead-end defense. At this pace, conditions will soon be dictated to us, and not we to someone
        1. Zakirov Damir
          Zakirov Damir 17 September 2022 11: 48
          -1
          Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
          Only for the time being, there is only one concession of "good will" on our part: they left the Serpent, Kyiv region, Sumy, Kharkov.

          The most important thing is that they didn’t frame their ass. Everything else will be fixed. Muslims in Russia would definitely not understand.

          Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
          We went on the most part of the front into a dead-end defense. At this pace, conditions will soon be dictated to us, and not we to someone

          You don't even have to dictate. You are like a man from a joke - "they found a singer, they wanted to make them sing!".
      2. EVPATIY878
        EVPATIY878 17 September 2022 10: 25
        -1
        General Frost would be more correct, they must remember him in the genes.
      3. ABC-schutze
        ABC-schutze 17 September 2022 16: 58
        0
        And the "master" is already to his Euro-slaves, in fact, already "comes" unnecessarily ...

        Today, a prisoner of war of the American occupation regime with the tag "Scholz" toured in front of the personnel of an oil refinery stolen, literally TWO DAYS AGO, from Rosneft, by the puppet "government" of the Vaterland oil refinery ...

        And he happily told those present that the enterprise "taken over" from Rosneft will now process non-Russian oil. And the oil coming from Poland and Kazakhstan...

        In this regard, a question arises. Even two...

        Since Kazakh oil enters the Vaterland, "by any means", through the territory of Russia (even if you try to push it "drop by drop" through the Caspian Sea ...), Russia, in connection with the German robbery, could inform about the change in the "rules of the game". And with a clear conscience to declare that the transit of Kazakh oil through Russian territory will be carried out only on the conditions:

        - its ADVANCE PAYMENTS IN RUBLES to Rosneft's ACCOUNTS in Russia, by the German side, represented by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT (as responsible for the theft of Russian property), and not by the Kazakh side;

        - his payment AT THE TRIPLE TARIFF.

        If German customers-consumers do not comply with Kazakh oil (and the stolen Rosneft plants, now, I remind you, the German "manager" is already "ruling"), transit of Kazakh oil through the territory of Russia will not be carried out EXACTLY FOR GERMANY. What will the Kazakh side be informed about...
        1. ABC-schutze
          ABC-schutze 17 September 2022 17: 02
          0
          By the way, through which oil pipelines oil from "the territory of Poland" enters the Vaterland, it would also be worthwhile to carefully control. To prevent such supplies if they are made through the territory of Belarus. And if this turns out to be the case, then transit conditions similar to those mentioned above will be put forward ...
          1. ABC-schutze
            ABC-schutze 17 September 2022 17: 08
            0
            In the meantime, Rosneft has started an obviously hopeless (but so desirable and PROFITABLE for "international lawyers") badyaga - to seek the return of its property "by legal means", i.e. to file lawsuits and consider the case in "the same" so-called "international - arbitral tribunals...

            I can announce their "solution" today, and absolutely free of charge. It is not clear to someone in Rosneft?.. Why waste RUSSIAN money and time?.. After all, the enterprise, after all, with the participation of Russian state capital. And then pay legal fees?
    2. Maz
      Maz 17 September 2022 09: 53
      +6
      The fact that the journalist wrote and she was allowed to put it out to the public says that in Germany they are preparing a bedding of straw in case they still have to remove sanctions, buy gas, launch Nord Stream two, drive Ukraine for the sake of their own comfortable life and prevent a social explosion. This is Gut in favor of Russia, the special operation and its mandatory continuation. Moreover, there was a reaction in the regions to create volunteer detachments from every major city. This means that there will be a replenishment and an increase in the number of contract soldiers in the NVO zone. Hen grain by grain, time works for us, and kittens are not born immediately. Today is September 17, it's getting colder. Winter, as Zadornov said, is close, and we have always belittled our enemies in winter, especially since December 22. So sho - no panic, just plow, believe in our guys and girls, help the front. since our oligarchs have turned away from the army, then this is written to the common people, it has always been so. In order to change the future, one must beat the present to bloody calluses like St. Francis - that's what Putin said. We will sit on the F and moan - not a damn thing will change. So the journalist understood this and her sponsors understood. There is reason for optimism, and quite justified. Go Russia! No options.
    3. Greg Miller
      Greg Miller 17 September 2022 10: 09
      0
      Quote from Pharmacist
      They can argue even to the point of numbness, but in the end a gentleman from Washington will come and judge everything! laughing

      Yes, the overseas Karabas-Barabas will take his whip and quickly bring his puppets to order ...
  2. Dilettante grandfather
    Dilettante grandfather 17 September 2022 09: 36
    +5
    In her opinion, it is necessary continuing to provide military assistance the Kyiv regime, to make every effort to achieve a peaceful settlement through diplomacy.

    If she does not know, then this is called "Eat a fish and two peas per spoon." I'd say it's fundamentally the wrong approach. If they want to solve it diplomatically, let them stop any assistance to the Zelensky regime. If they want to continue arms deliveries, let them forget about negotiations.
    1. Warrior with machine gun
      Warrior with machine gun 17 September 2022 10: 05
      +1
      It’s just in the top ten, the main thing is that at the top they stop dully “gentlemen”, it infuriates that they still care about the population of a hostile state more than about the lives of our young guys ....
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 17 September 2022 10: 08
      0
      Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
      If they want to solve it diplomatically, let them stop any assistance to the Zelensky regime. If they want to continue arms deliveries, let them forget about negotiations.

      Negotiations with whom? Only from Germany? Suppose the Germans stop supplying weapons. And the rest? And the US will not stop for sure.
      1. Dilettante grandfather
        Dilettante grandfather 17 September 2022 10: 39
        +2
        Negotiations with whom? Only from Germany?

        At least with Germany. If they stop supplying weapons, and in return (for example, of course) they receive a certain amount of gas, can you imagine what will happen in the EU? laughing
        In general, this is not my proposal, this is the meaning of the article and the statements of the Germans. hi
  3. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 17 September 2022 09: 36
    +2
    In the German press: We need to look for opportunities for dialogue with the Russian Federation, and not argue about the supply of weapons to Kyiv
    belay Poor German press. fool Now only capitulation, of course, on honorable terms. (we will not beat the face)
  4. gansales
    gansales 17 September 2022 09: 36
    0
    German politicians need to look for opportunities for dialogue with the Russian Federation, and not argue about the supply of weapons to Kyiv.

    It's too late, freaks! Now another "dialogue" will begin with you ..
    All betrayed the bastards and lay under the United States ..
  5. 41 REGION
    41 REGION 17 September 2022 09: 38
    +1
    In her opinion, it is necessary, without stopping to provide military assistance to the Kyiv regime, to make every effort to achieve a peaceful settlement through diplomacy.

    This is the same as blowing on a fire in the hope, or maybe it will die out, throwing firewood in a timely manner belay
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 17 September 2022 09: 45
      +3
      Quote: 41 REGION
      throwing firewood in a timely manner

      Throwing firewood, telling the gullible European natives that the more fire and smoke, the sooner the gods will send rain and put out the fire.
  6. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 17 September 2022 09: 39
    +1
    compensate Russia for losses
    Losses? "I ask: How many grams?" request Rebuild the destruction in the border villages and cities. And you need to watch the hands of our Ltberastov, otherwise they will count more Poles and ..... request
  7. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 17 September 2022 09: 43
    +1
    And what is there to discuss. The diplomatic decision on Ukraine in the minds of the West is our capitulation. They have not yet grown to the doves of peace. with us, the whole world is in ruins if we do not win in Ukraine.
    1. Astra55
      Astra55 17 September 2022 10: 13
      +4
      And what is Russia doing to defeat Ukraine?
      Do not fight.
      Economically, it does not choke.
      Okay with Ukraine. Without the West, it is nothing. Therefore, maybe we are strangling the West in the hope that Europe will freeze in winter? I doubt.
      How to win then, do you have any thoughts?
      Or is there all hope for a miracle that the RF Armed Forces, with all their foolishness, will now pile on and chase Bandera to the Polish border?
      That is unlikely.
      And the West does not sleep and is pumping weapons into Ukraine more and more every day. And there is no hope for the fifth column in Ukraine after all the regroupings. It’s possible to call on a Russian to keep silent and listen to the Supreme, but for a Ukrainian, he sees everything the same way - today the RF Armed Forces came, tomorrow the RF Armed Forces left silently, and why should he support Russia, he has a family, children, and the SBU turns out to be nowhere and didn't go away...
  8. yuriy55
    yuriy55 17 September 2022 09: 54
    +2
    In the German press: We need to look for opportunities for dialogue with the Russian Federation, and not argue about the supply of weapons to Kyiv

    What can you advise Scholz? Let him have some obligations to Zelensky, let the Polish reparations be crushed, even (!!!) hope for the safety of German gold in Fort Knox ...
  9. Alex Nevs
    Alex Nevs 17 September 2022 10: 05
    +2
    But no one understood why? conversation across such a long table.
  10. man
    man 17 September 2022 10: 20
    +2
    In the German press: We need to look for opportunities for dialogue with the Russian Federation, and not argue about the supply of weapons to Kyiv
    I don't understand why this crap is posted here! Why give rise to unnecessary hopes? Well, how much more evidence is needed to finally understand that the West is our fierce enemy and will not calm down until it dismembers Russia! Even if the sanctions are lifted and the losses are compensated, then again nae..t. This must be the starting point! Our only chance is to restore our production and science. But how to do this in the current conditions and with our mediocre "elite" ... the question is ...
  11. albert1907
    albert1907 17 September 2022 10: 23
    +1
    It is noteworthy that Putin is negotiating with some, sitting next to him, while Scholz was seated on the other side of a long table.
    1. Dilettante grandfather
      Dilettante grandfather 17 September 2022 10: 42
      +1
      Not everyone likes the smell of liverwurst! feel wassat
  12. EVPATIY878
    EVPATIY878 17 September 2022 10: 28
    +1
    Who is this weak-willed government with "liver sausage"? So they are under external control, and the lackeys do not have their own opinion, their destiny is to fulfill the will of the owner.
  13. Vic Vic
    Vic Vic 17 September 2022 10: 33
    +3
    I drew attention to the details of the photo from the talks between Putin and Scholz.
    How Scholz sits: on the edge of the chair, legs on tiptoe, the pose of a petitioner and a person who is unsure of himself and his position ...
  14. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 17 September 2022 11: 01
    +1
    necessary, without stopping to provide military assistance to the Kyiv regime, to make every effort to achieve a peaceful settlement through diplomatic means.
    Here it is wrapped. It turns out to try both yours and ours. I wonder if Moscow will have a desire to talk about peace with those who help the war continue? Although, as it was said, "we are open for negotiations" and Macron and Scholz (this one is less common) call Moscow and demand something, but in the end this is a conversation with a deaf and blind person.
  15. iouris
    iouris 17 September 2022 11: 17
    0
    Germany is preparing for a victorious war. Around next year. And then the gas will flow free of charge, and Germany will become a hub.
  16. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 17 September 2022 12: 02
    +1
    German politicians need to look for opportunities for dialogue with the Russian Federation, and not argue about the supply of weapons to Kyiv.

    And what kind of constructive dialogue is possible in this case? fool
    it is necessary, without stopping to provide military assistance to the Kyiv regime, to make every effort to achieve a peaceful settlement through diplomacy.

    Yeah, in, I mean uh...
  17. opuonmed
    opuonmed 17 September 2022 12: 09
    0
    Sabine Rennefants in an article for the German magazine Der Spiegel.

    many who write and the policy is different! write those who do not decide anything
  18. Petr_Koldunov
    Petr_Koldunov 17 September 2022 12: 24
    +1
    The message is good. And the intentions, too... It's just that the dialogue with Russia, in the understanding of the West, is dictation in a strict tone of "homework" to a negligent student who, sighing and bowing his head, nods and promises to do everything by Monday...
    In any case, absolutely all visits by Western officials to Moscow in recent years have come down to just such a "dialogue."
    Rather, they have been reduced to this for the last 30 years ... it’s just that in recent years Moscow has not stood still, looking down guiltily and promising to improve - and at the first sign of arrogance and dictating conditions to it, it kicks the next “ambassador of peace and civilization” back.
    And they, CSH, do not understand this at all! They come "in peace" - to offer an honorary collar made of good leather, and even encrusted with the most beautiful glass ... and we, kapets, are ungrateful!
  19. Mint Gingerbread
    Mint Gingerbread 17 September 2022 13: 48
    0
    At this rate, Germany will soon start kissing Poland in the ass laughing Apparently it looks like the collapse of the European.
  20. iouris
    iouris 17 September 2022 20: 50
    0
    Let me remind the German press: "And Vaska listens and eats!" And he listens to "Deutschland, Deutschland Uber Alles!" (translation: Ukraine over the mustache!)