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In the United States, the words "let's see how the Ukrainian counteroffensive" from the President of Russia sparked a discussion

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In the United States, the words "let's see how the Ukrainian counteroffensive" from the President of Russia sparked a discussion

In the United States, the words of the President of Russia during a press conference in Samarkand regarding the events in the Donbass and Ukraine caused a discussion. Recall that the journalists asked the question, what is the reason for the peculiar containment of their forces during the military special operation and does he (the head of state) know about the counter-offensive of the Ukrainian troops near Kharkov?


Answering this question, Vladimir Putin once again reminded that Russia is conducting a special military operation and that within the framework of this operation, Russia will involve only part of the contract component. The greatest resonance in the West was caused by the significant statement of the President of the Russian Federation that we must wait and see "how this counteroffensive will end."

The US administration suddenly began to "warn Russia against the use of nuclear and chemical weapons". President Biden also spoke on this issue, who himself raised the topic of weapons of mass destruction. Moreover, it was initially stated that the White House reacted in this way to Putin's statement, then it suddenly turned out that Biden had said these words last Sunday - five days before the statements of the Russian president.

Nevertheless, Biden's words about nuclear weapons and chemical weapons are now being actively exaggerated in the American press and are being presented "as a warning from the US administration in the event of a new aggression against Ukraine." And some congressmen urge "to take all measures so that Russia cannot respond to the advance of Ukrainian troops."

American reporters, in turn, are now writing that "Putin's words regarding possible consequences for Ukraine must be taken into account." At the same time, Biden, answering questions from journalists and for some reason believing that Russia could use nuclear weapons in Ukraine, said that he could not yet say what the answer from the United States would be, but “Russia will definitely become an even greater outcast.”
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    1. mitroha
      mitroha 17 September 2022 08: 53
      +23
      CBO can change the map of the world, but not Svaroga....
      1. gansales
        gansales 17 September 2022 09: 01
        +27
        In the United States, the words "let's see how the Ukrainian counteroffensive" from the President of Russia sparked a discussion

        And not only in the USA .. There, on the site, how many howled ..
        They hoped that Russia was Khan, retreating, etc.
        No hospoda, RUSSIA is concentrating And all that it could offer the West and NATO .. ​​Now let's start! hi
        You can kick again ..hehe
        1. Wesker gorlovka
          Wesker gorlovka 17 September 2022 09: 10
          -17
          And what should I do? Ukrainians can come to us. DPR, Gorlovka.
          1. Vitaly161
            Vitaly161 17 September 2022 14: 21
            +5
            can take the machine in hand, but it is, one of the options
            1. NOMADE
              NOMADE 17 September 2022 16: 01
              +3
              Why write so many words? Go ahead, sign up for a volunteer squad!)
          2. VORON538
            VORON538 18 September 2022 04: 32
            +3
            Wesker Gorlovka (Anton) Yesterday, 10: 11
            -13

            In the United States, the words "let's see how the Ukrainian counteroffensive" from the President of Russia sparked a discussion
            This is how I relieve stress. I smoke one by one, and I drink an alcoholic one by one.
            And you, with booze, tie it up and go ahead as volunteers! Although, it seems to me, here another ukrotroll writes "Yaiz Gorlovka" laughing
        2. Svarog
          Svarog 17 September 2022 09: 28
          -20
          Quote from gansales
          No hospoda, RUSSIA is concentrating And all that it could offer the West and NATO .. ​​Now let's start!

          It has been focusing for 30 years already ... the results of concentration are obvious to all sane people .. but they stubbornly believe that those who have been doing everything for XNUMX years ... are still capable of something. And a slow war is beneficial only to the United States .. and not to Russia at all .. I think every believer is aware of this ..
          1. Oleg Barchev
            Oleg Barchev 17 September 2022 09: 45
            +13
            The slowness is caused primarily by the need to train troops in a real combat situation, test new weapons, review tactical methods of conducting combat operations, identify our own weaknesses, test the viability and abilities of our generals, etc. etc. But what I consider the most important is the consolidation of society in an effort to win this confrontation.
            1. Wesker gorlovka
              Wesker gorlovka 17 September 2022 09: 50
              -17
              Yes, everyone is doing it. Now the most important thing is to prevent panic. Otherwise, even in the Crimea, they panic.
              1. Repellent
                Repellent 17 September 2022 10: 08
                +14
                Oh, they also opened the "canned":


                Quote: Wesker Gorlovka
                Are they going to give us up so easily. Like this

                Do not lie.
                1. Wesker gorlovka
                  Wesker gorlovka 17 September 2022 10: 10
                  -19
                  Yes, I’m not lying. I was a little worried. And I dug it out for 15 years.
                  1. Repellent
                    Repellent 17 September 2022 10: 14
                    +7
                    Quote: Wesker Gorlovka
                    A little worried

                    Too late to rush. There are many of you here. It was yes
                2. Wesker gorlovka
                  Wesker gorlovka 17 September 2022 10: 11
                  -19
                  This is how I relieve stress. I smoke one by one, and I drink an alcoholic one by one.
                  1. NOMADE
                    NOMADE 17 September 2022 16: 02
                    +2
                    Well, go to war, why screw the sofa?)
          2. Terenin
            Terenin 17 September 2022 15: 45
            +4
            Svarog, okay, you are a local Slava Kovtun (by the way, where is he now?) And everything is fine using matrices, like
            Quote: Svarog
            waiting for when it becomes completely sad,
            Quote: Svarog
            obvious to all sane people.
            Quote: Svarog
            I think every believer understands this ..

            But, that's why you constantly call the Russian authorities in deed and idle
            Quote: Svarog
            such a chip at our guides.

            Well, by God, winked Stirlitz, take off your Budyonovka and parachute.

        3. igork735
          igork735 17 September 2022 10: 35
          +1
          "You can kick again..hehe"...
          Kick a tree - you'll beat off your leg!
          "And I offered everything I could to the West and NATO"
          ... Is it about oil, gas, titanium, etc.?
        4. navigator777
          navigator777 17 September 2022 17: 19
          +1
          Quote from gansales
          In the United States, the words "let's see how the Ukrainian counteroffensive" from the President of Russia sparked a discussion

          And not only in the USA .. There, on the site, how many howled ..
          They hoped that Russia was Khan, retreating, etc.
          No hospoda, RUSSIA is concentrating And all that it could offer the West and NATO .. ​​Now let's start! hi
          You can kick again ..hehe

          Russia loses at least 1000 people per month only killed, by the spring there will be 7-10 tons of fighters. less, and Ukraine will mobilize and the West will train and arm a couple of hundred thousand more. So let's see how our focus ends. If mobilization is not announced in time, if these people are not trained, if coordination is not carried out, then by spring we will fly out like a traffic jam not only from Kherson and Zaporozhye, but also from the LDNR. If Putin thinks that winter will help Ukrainians change their minds, then in the spring he will be in for a big surprise and disappointment.
          If now at least 100-150 tons of mobilized people were concentrated on the side of Belarus in the Kiev direction, without even introducing them into hostilities, then this would help to pull the huge enemy forces from the Donbass, would allow concentrating large forces in one direction and strike in another. Yes, and there would be reserves to patch holes.
      2. Svarog
        Svarog 17 September 2022 09: 29
        -13
        Quote: Mitroha
        CBO can change the map of the world, but not Svaroga....

        I would be glad to change both the map of the world and my point of view, but there are no prerequisites, only bleak forecasts come true.
        1. Wesker gorlovka
          Wesker gorlovka 17 September 2022 09: 35
          -20
          And how I told my neighbors in the market in February that in a couple of weeks the enemies would scatter, there would be new boilers. But instead I got mines 20 meters away. I go to work, I go around the corner, and then a shell. , running to work.
    2. SeregaBoss
      SeregaBoss 17 September 2022 09: 11
      +5
      Why are you still on the site, and not in the headquarters and government? Everyone needs you there, both those above and those below.
      1. seregatara1969
        seregatara1969 17 September 2022 09: 22
        +6
        Americans deliberately do not destroy chemical weapons! Only they have it
        1. zloybond
          zloybond 17 September 2022 09: 35
          +2
          It is incomprehensible only the gurgling of our diplomats on the topic of concluding other agreements with the United States - on the topic of Missiles and other things, when they could not achieve the implementation of the agreement on chemical weapons Or we need filkin's letters for the sake of testimony - they say, like, we are working, we are signing fool This is how the Americans will fulfill the agreement on chemical weapons, and the next to discuss, otherwise they signed a bunch of everything and nothing works hi
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 17 September 2022 10: 28
            +2
            Quote: zloybond
            What is incomprehensible is the gurgling of our diplomats on the topic of concluding other agreements with the United States - on the topic of missiles and other things, when they could not achieve the implementation of the chemical weapons treaty

            So our diplomats do not raise this topic. All the gurgling lately comes from the American side and with one goal, to limit our capabilities in those areas where the mattresses do not have time or lag behind. Everything is according to the old scheme - "Russia's candy wrapper, candy for mattresses", at the same time, they also insist that Russia would involve China in this process, then they will kindly agree that the candy wrapper can be divided into two, and candy one fig will only be for mattresses. But our diplomats have not heard them lately, and the Chinese simply and civilly send them to gnaw a vegetable, either daikon or horseradish.
            1. zloybond
              zloybond 17 September 2022 21: 41
              -1
              So I say - a clear and intelligible answer - fulfill that contract, come with a new one. And then they spread verbiage. Clear, clear, distinct, short.
        2. Romario_Argo
          Romario_Argo 17 September 2022 09: 44
          -9
          there is something to think about the whole ball
          Biden just doesn't say anything
          there is a high probability that there is intelligence data from the CIA that
          RF Armed Forces begin to replenish their arsenals
          accelerated production of chemical and biological weapons
          preparations are underway for a large-scale WW3
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        3. SKVichyakow
          SKVichyakow 17 September 2022 10: 31
          +1
          Quote: seregatara1969
          Americans deliberately do not destroy chemical weapons! Only they have it

          Or maybe it's easier to destroy almost ALL critical infrastructure?
    3. runway-1
      runway-1 17 September 2022 16: 21
      -4
      But what an indicative reaction of the "guards" who, in shifts in platoons, carry out their difficult trolling service: they received the Central Command, regrouped, consistently put "minuses" for objective comments and write meaningless, but very self-confident "patriotic" messages. And of course they add frank game, in a word - heroes and workers of the information front ... winked
  2. 9PA
    9PA 17 September 2022 07: 33
    +17
    If you look at the counteroffensive for a long time, then the counteroffensive will begin to look at you
    1. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 17 September 2022 07: 44
      +14
      The words are said for "non-partners" .. But for our MO, the words should be different.
      1. Dingo
        Dingo 17 September 2022 08: 18
        +1
        Maybe the heads should be torn off by someone

        First, shoulder straps...
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 17 September 2022 08: 51
          +7
          Quote: Svarog
          Wait is a feature of our leadership.

          Time is on our side. It was the West who thought that the people of Russia would be outraged and overthrow Putin. Broke off. Now they are reaping the fruits of their stupidity.

          Quote: dmi.pris
          Maybe the heads should be torn off by someone
          Quote: Dingo
          First, shoulder straps...

          Give you free rein, you would quarter Zhukov in the 41st ...
          1. Plate
            Plate 17 September 2022 09: 02
            +7
            Quote: Boris55
            Give you free rein, you would quarter Zhukov in the 41st ...

            No, no, we know that in the 45th he will take Berlin.
    2. mitroha
      mitroha 17 September 2022 08: 52
      +8
      And some congressmen urge "to take all measures so that Russia cannot respond to the advance of Ukrainian troops."

      You are welcome to the front line. So to speak, by personal example and carcass
  3. Sergey Kuzmin
    Sergey Kuzmin 17 September 2022 07: 35
    +21
    Vladimir Putin once again reminded that Russia is conducting a special military operation and that within the framework of this operation, Russia will involve only part of the contract component. The greatest resonance in the West was caused by the significant statement of the President of the Russian Federation that we must wait and see "how this counteroffensive will end."
    That's what Putin is doing well - it's that with one phrase he knows how to "put on the ears" of all Western "partners"! Even after these words, effective actions would have followed in the same Kharkov direction ... in general, everything would have been wonderful! And in general - along the entire border of Russia-Ukraine, it is necessary to create a 150 km buffer zone by moving the Ukronazi troops away from the border with Russia in order to protect Russian territories from shelling by the Ukronazis
    1. User_neydobniu
      User_neydobniu 17 September 2022 07: 49
      -20
      That's what Putin is doing well - it's that with one phrase he knows how to "put on the ears" of all Western "partners"!

      It's not Putin, well done, it's our media, well done, that they gave the information like that lol
    2. Letun
      Letun 17 September 2022 07: 50
      -7
      Quote: Sergey Kuzmin
      That's what Putin is doing well - it's that with one phrase he knows how to "put on the ears" of all Western "partners"!

      And where did you get the idea that he put someone on their ears? From this article? winked
      1. igork735
        igork735 17 September 2022 10: 47
        -2
        Words, words, again words, just words,
        Only words.
        Beautiful words, happy dreams
        Time has passed, time has passed.
        Lyrics of T. Dolnikova and G. Kutsenko - Words, words, words again.
    3. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 17 September 2022 08: 16
      +21
      Quote: Sergey Kuzmin
      And in general - along the entire border of Russia-Ukraine, you need to create a 150 km buffer zone by pushing the troops

      150 km.? What did you mean? What is 150 km. for modern weapons?
      To secure the border territories of Russia, it is not enough to take the Sumy, Kharkov, Chernihiv regions. We must take the entire Left Bank Outskirts. But, again, the left bank will be threatened, logically, by the right bank. And then what? There is only one way out - to take, no matter how difficult, the entire Outskirts. Eastern and southern regions take it into the composition of Russia, and make the rest of the outskirts a state allied with Russia.
      Something like this. But .., these are just my Wishlist, and the Kremlin knows better.
      1. Leshak
        Leshak 17 September 2022 08: 53
        +8
        But .., these are just my Wishlist, and the Kremlin knows better.

        These are the wishes of more than half of the people of Russia, and not just yours.
        1. Plate
          Plate 17 September 2022 09: 36
          -5
          Quote: Leshak
          These are the wishes of more than half of the people of Russia, and not just yours.

          I don't think you can say that with such certainty. No research has been done on this topic.
      2. mitroha
        mitroha 17 September 2022 10: 14
        0
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        There is only one way out - to take, no matter how difficult, the entire Outskirts.

        Then Poland will threaten us hi
        I think that Germany will not threaten us, so it makes sense not to stop bully
        1. cloner
          cloner 17 September 2022 15: 25
          +1
          But in Poland, you can hit nuclear weapons if you threaten. Those are not sorry.
          1. mitroha
            mitroha 17 September 2022 16: 50
            0
            Quote: Klonser
            But in Poland, you can hit nuclear weapons if you threaten. Those are not sorry.

            What I wrote about, that you can not stop before Germany hi
        2. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 18 September 2022 20: 25
          +1
          Quote: Mitroha

          Then Poland will threaten us

          We are no strangers to Polish threats.
          We will not touch her, and if she, foolishly, twitches, then NATO will not help her (according to the Charter), because she will be the aggressor.
      3. Sergey Kuzmin
        Sergey Kuzmin 18 September 2022 06: 21
        0
        There is only one way out - to take, no matter how difficult, the entire Outskirts. Eastern and southern regions to take into the composition of Russia, and from the rest of the outskirts to make a state allied with Russia.
        I agree with your "wants". But I'm talking about 150 km from the borders of Russia - this is now and urgently!
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 18 September 2022 20: 28
          0
          Quote: Sergey Kuzmin
          I agree with your "wants". But I'm talking about 150 km from the borders of Russia - this is now and urgently!

          I completely agree with yours - "urgently".
    4. ramzay21
      ramzay21 17 September 2022 09: 02
      -11
      That's what Putin is doing well - it's that with one phrase he knows how to "put on the ears" of all Western "partners"!

      If you yourself read the Western press, then you yourself would be convinced that they think ... that Putin is doing well.
      Because he either appointed a person who supported and financed the Maidan as an ambassador to the Russian Federation, then he doesn’t react in any way while other countries made Russophobes out of Ukrainians, then he betrays our supporters in South-Eastern Ukraine, then he doesn’t strike when the Ukrainian army was not combat-ready, then he attacks the country , whose rating of the Russophobic president has fallen below the plinth and ....... when you need to act decisively and quickly ..... he takes a wait and see attitude and waits for negotiations.
      1. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 17 September 2022 15: 33
        -2
        made Russophobes out of Ukrainians
        Making chocolate out of chocolate yes .
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 17 September 2022 16: 21
        +1
        Quote: ramzay21
        appointed a person who supported and financed the Maidan as ambassador to the Russian Federation,
        And who among them did not support the Maidan? This makes it clear what to expect.

        Quote: ramzay21
        it doesn’t react in any way while other countries made Russophobes out of Ukrainians,
        Putin has always said officially that this is unacceptable.
        And, it was obviously premature to take practical steps. Strength was not enough (which we see even now).

        Quote: ramzay21
        will betray our supporters in South-Eastern Ukraine,
        Where did he betray when we are fighting for them there.

        Quote: ramzay21
        it won’t hit when the army of Ukraine was not combat-ready,
        You know very well that you fought even then, as far as the situation allowed. And, NATO would have done everything then, as now and with what and with whom would we fight?

        Quote: ramzay21
        then he will attack a country whose rating of the Russophobic president has fallen below the baseboard and ....... when you need to act decisively and quickly ..... he takes a wait and see attitude and waits for negotiations.
        Have you forgotten how fast we progressed in the first weeks? Even too much.
        They built up their forces to the last, but it was no longer possible to postpone.
        Result: We are fighting on the territory of Ukraine, and not recapturing Crimea, Donetsk, Lugansk, Kursk and Belgorod with Rostov ...
        1. ramzay21
          ramzay21 17 September 2022 19: 49
          -3
          And who among them did not support the Maidan? This makes it clear what to expect.

          If he appointed Zurabov, the man who financed the Maidan and a friend of Poroshenko, the leader of the Maidan, as the Russian ambassador to Ukraine, then this means Putin himself supported the Maidan.
          Putin has always said officially that this is unacceptable.

          According to him, Russia spent 200 billion dollars to support Ukraine, which means there were a great many levers of influence on them, in other words, he could have prevented this but did not. Out of malice or out of stupidity, this is a different question.
          Where did he betray when we are fighting for them there.

          He betrayed at first by stopping talking about Novorossia, after the President of Switzerland explained to him what would happen to his money, against the backdrop of May 2, 2014, and then by signing the Minsk agreements. Only the blind didn't see it
          You know very well that you fought even then, as far as the situation allowed. And, NATO would have done everything then, as now and with what and with whom would we fight?

          Then the situation made it possible to do what he planned to do on February 24 and our army would freely enter all the cities and Odessa, Kharkov, Nikolaev, Mariupol, Zaporozhye and perhaps others would meet us with flowers and not with bullets and shells.
          At that time, the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not represent any military force at all, and they were not ready to shoot, as the events in the Crimea showed. In a few weeks, our troops could occupy the whole of Ukraine without a fight, and NATO could say something, but it could not do anything for sure. And they, NATO understood this very well. Therefore, without doing this, Putin unambiguously took the side of NATO, giving them 8 years to make the Armed Forces of Ukraine a combat-ready army and make sure that those who supported us 8 years ago volunteered to fight against us. Only the blind do not see this.
          Result: We are fighting on the territory of Ukraine, and not recapturing Crimea, Donetsk, Lugansk, Kursk and Belgorod with Rostov ...

          I see that as a result of gestures of goodwill and regrouping, we occupy much smaller territories than we did after the first two weeks of the advance. Further, they will only decrease under the leadership of our brilliant strategist and no less brilliant plywood field marshal of the order bearer.
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 18 September 2022 11: 39
            +2
            Quote: ramzay21
            If he appointed Zurabov, the man who financed the Maidan and a friend of Poroshenko, as the Russian ambassador to Ukraine,

            You are very hot in conclusions, like a young Transcaucasian. am
            I do not argue that the work of Zurabov before the Maidan was an absolute failure.
            But, he was appointed ambassador to Yanukovych and had influence on Poroshenko as the next leader, tk. Zurabov was a personal close friend of Poroshenko.
            It is quite logical that when relations between states are heating up, with a possible military escalation (which we are now seeing), the most reliable informal ties were needed. This is the law of diplomacy.
            Those. Zurabov had an important function - direct informal communication between the Kremlin and Poroshenko.
            Then, when the Kremlin "wrote off" Poroshenko, then Zurabov, as a communicator, "left" as unnecessary.

            Quote: ramzay21
            Then the situation made it possible to do what he planned to do on February 24 and our army would freely enter all the cities and Odessa, Kharkov, Nikolaev, Mariupol, Zaporozhye and perhaps others would meet us with flowers and not with bullets and shells.
            At that time, the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not represent any military force at all, and they were not ready to shoot, as the events in the Crimea showed. In a few weeks, our troops could occupy the whole of Ukraine without a fight, and NATO could say something, but it could not do anything for sure. And they, NATO understood this very well.
            I assume that approximately the same erroneous argumentation was given by our intelligence (SVR, GRU ...) which led to significant losses in the first days of the NWO.


            Quote: ramzay21
            Therefore, without doing this, Putin unambiguously took the side of NATO, giving them 8 years to make the Armed Forces of Ukraine a combat-ready army and make sure that those who supported us 8 years ago volunteered to fight against us. Only the blind do not see this.
            Yes, Russia simply lacked the resources to simultaneously play an active political game in the European direction (fighting the Americans for the EU), support Assad in Syria, force Turkey to peace, monitor the provocative activities of the Baltic limitrophes in order to directly fight the Ukrainian NATO mercenaries.

            Quote: ramzay21
            I see that as a result of gestures of goodwill and regrouping, we occupy much smaller territories than we did after the first two weeks of the advance. Further, they will only decrease under the leadership of our brilliant strategist and no less brilliant plywood field marshal of the order bearer.
            This is the result of hasty decision-making based on subjective intelligence data. fool Contradict yourself.
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              1. Terenin
                Terenin 19 September 2022 10: 42
                0
                Again you your bagpipe ...
                I've told
                Quote: Terenin
                Strength was not enough (which we see even now).
  4. AIK05
    AIK05 17 September 2022 07: 36
    +4
    Now let them guess and get nervous what our President had in mind, I hope that banderostan will leave horns and legs.
  5. Luminman
    Luminman 17 September 2022 07: 38
    +1
    Neutron bomb! Here's what to use! Svidomites en masse go to Bandera, and land and real estate join Russia ... wink
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 17 September 2022 08: 19
      +1
      Quote: Luminman
      Neutron bomb! Here's what to use! Svidomites en masse go to Bandera, :
      together with the children (what did they do wrong to you?) and those who are waiting for the arrival of the Russian troops?
  6. Silver99
    Silver99 17 September 2022 07: 40
    -2
    And something else remains only to watch and spit ((((as I understand it, there is no talk of an offensive and recapture of the lost territories, now the main thing is not to lose more.
  7. Dart2027
    Dart2027 17 September 2022 07: 40
    +7
    The question is how many people died during this counteroffensive. Especially in light of some statements that they are mostly not Ukrainians.

    A well-known Russian writer, former deputy battalion commander of the DPR Army, Zakhar Prilepin, provided some details about the situation in the Kharkiv region, received from a military source.
    “A man from Kharkov is speaking. He was not on the first line, as you will understand below.
    - Russian art works great. In my presence, a Ukrainian pickup truck was covered from the first shot, which was rushing about a hundred kilometers along the highway.
    - The Armed Forces of Ukraine have a huge number of all sorts of machines and equipment, which none of the warring parties have even seen since 2014.
    - The reasons for the withdrawal from our positions for many remained incomprehensible. Where we stood, there was no threat of encirclement, and it was possible to confidently hold the defense.
    “Sufficiently serious columns walked past us, which could also organize defense, but calmly went further.
    - During the retreat, we decided not to leave just like that (we have an experienced commander). They launched their advance group along the highway - they cut it off and took it prisoner.
    As a result, a sufficient number of the enemy are captured. Most are mercenaries. All are British or Poles.

    Source: https://rusvesna.su/news/1663078532
    1. silberwolf88
      silberwolf88 17 September 2022 08: 24
      -2
      Prilepin is Surkov's project along the way ... take a closer look at this type of patriot ... there are a lot of questions for whom he is drowning ...
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 17 September 2022 08: 58
        +6
        Quote: silberwolf88
        Prilepin in the course of Surkov's project

        I remember when a crowd of our liberals was filmed leaving the US embassy, ​​they yelled the same thing.
      2. Alexander Salenko
        Alexander Salenko 17 September 2022 09: 01
        +6
        And you look at his Russian lessons, for whom is he drowning there?
    2. huntsman650
      huntsman650 17 September 2022 09: 18
      -12
      Evening Vladlen looked, the most adequate blogger. According to him, 50 people remained from the brigade of allied troops. There were a lot of reservists killed there (((
      And there was infa from third parties that some kind of liquid was poured from the copters there, severe burns.
    3. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 17 September 2022 10: 58
      +1
      Thousand 5 out of 30 are definitely dead and 300x Thousand 10 at least will be -15 Thousand out of 30 half for sure.
    4. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 17 September 2022 15: 36
      +2
      Most are mercenaries. All are British or Poles.
      And not a single black belay The captured mercenaries would have been shown on TV, and the BBCs would have raised a fuss (if the British), and so-silence.
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  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 17 September 2022 07: 43
    +11
    The US administration suddenly began to "warn Russia against the use of nuclear and chemical weapons"
    Retired and current American generals have been talking about the possible use of tactical nuclear weapons by Russia for the second week. And finally, the strong point of American provocations through their proxies flashed - the use of chemical weapons. The question immediately arises, do we need to be prepared for such a provocation in Ukraine? I think that it is necessary to be ready, given the American Wishlist and Ukrainian crazyness.
  10. belovvladimir
    belovvladimir 17 September 2022 07: 51
    +11
    An interesting case, and an outcast who used a nuclear bomb on Japan, he is white and fluffy, Russia is not going to use nuclear weapons in his nose, D. B. According to Lavrov!
  11. Eva Star
    Eva Star 17 September 2022 07: 59
    +13
    Nuclear weapon? This is an extreme case, and definitely not against Ukraine. There are many possibilities to do without it. Now we need to destroy electricity, gas, communications, television. After you can bridges, dams. It is necessary to send western Ukraine to the Stone Age, then resistance will not be possible. The United States has waged all its wars since the destruction of civilian infrastructure.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 17 September 2022 09: 23
      +4
      Quote from Eva Star
      Nuclear weapon? This is an extreme case, and definitely not against Ukraine. There are plenty of ways to get by without it.

      There are many more opportunities to apply it not in Ukraine, but in a completely different place, where they feel safe, "fencing off" the ocean. Then there will be world peace. )))
  12. Saboteur_Navy
    Saboteur_Navy 17 September 2022 08: 01
    +3
    Lying on the couch, I think that here it’s impossible to do without a blow from Brest to Lutsk, and this blow will be sooner rather than later!
    Until the supply routes from Poland are cut off, the power of everything will only increase, do not forget about Lend Lease and huge sums ...
    1. RGB
      RGB 17 September 2022 08: 35
      +2
      No matter how after this blow the Poles climbed onto the western outskirts.
      1. Saboteur_Navy
        Saboteur_Navy 17 September 2022 08: 59
        +4
        If they climb, then it's even better, NATO will not be able to legally help them, and now Poland has an army of 130 thousand, why climb there?
      2. Alexander Salenko
        Alexander Salenko 17 September 2022 09: 04
        -1
        To get a front on its eastern border?
    2. Alexander Salenko
      Alexander Salenko 17 September 2022 09: 04
      +2
      Have you seen this Lutsk? There was not even a direct train from the Crimea under Ukraine, a town that can be surpassed. Well, there is a ushatannaya route to Poland, and even Polish television catches. Only it's not an artery. Quite another matter - Lvov.
      1. Saboteur_Navy
        Saboteur_Navy 17 September 2022 10: 57
        +1
        This is the direction from the borders, and there is the entire western part, by the way, there is a sense that more goes through the Chop and the Beskid tunnel because they probably changed direction ... for safety
        1. Alexander Salenko
          Alexander Salenko 17 September 2022 11: 05
          +1
          You didn’t understand, there is a cargo flow, it is somehow distributed and Lutsk is not the best direction, I won’t say for Chop, I haven’t been there. If we talk about Volyn, then there is coal there, not anthracite, of course, but nonetheless.
          1. Saboteur_Navy
            Saboteur_Navy 17 September 2022 11: 25
            +1
            You didn’t understand this strategic direction of the offensive, to Lutsk, through Lutsk, it’s like through Izyum to Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, Lutsk is the key not only to Lviv but also to Rivne, Ivan Frankivsk and beyond
            Beating from Brest bypassing Lutsk will not work
  13. Normann
    Normann 17 September 2022 08: 08
    +9
    What idiot dragged this whole operation out over seven months? And now, when they gave you a hat, they finally started to stir, why wasn’t the infrastructure immediately destroyed? they thought they would surrender - to build fortified areas for eight years and wash the heads of the population - yes, they would surrender ... now it has come to light that everything is not so simple. When the transport infrastructure is already destroyed, the enemy delivers equipment in open echelons, and, gosh, laughs at a very smart command. (((
    1. Alexander Salenko
      Alexander Salenko 17 September 2022 09: 05
      -3
      Something else annoys me more, how the same Izyum was surrendered, was it really impossible to accumulate forces there in advance, how could the counteroffensive be missed?
      1. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 17 September 2022 11: 06
        +4
        If you defend from 30 thousand even with large forces, there are still big losses, if no one considers ukromyaso for people, then our big losses in a short time are very contraindicated, but that’s why they didn’t bomb all these 30 thousand why they didn’t fill up all the mines on the approaches.
    2. Amper
      Amper 17 September 2022 13: 12
      -5
      You what!? Dear, everyone knows his last name! Mentioned regularly. Yes, yes, this is HE-about whom one cannot speak badly ... Vovan De Mord (Hogwarts notes) hi
  14. bsk_una
    bsk_una 17 September 2022 08: 09
    +6
    To the leaders of the unfriendly USA, England. Copy to unfriendly NATO countries.
    As a result of the conflict in Russia's neighboring country of Ukraine, in order to conduct a special military organization for the denazification and demilitarization of the Ukrainian state, NATO countries led by the United States took the side of the nationalist state of Ukraine. This terrorist state, which overthrew the legitimate government by force of arms, despite the guarantees from the same NATO countries, terrorized the population of the LDNR for eight years. When the leadership of these countries turned to Russia for protection, the NWO followed. In preparation for Ukraine's attack on Russia, your countries began a large-scale pumping of the country with weapons. In the course of the NMD, the scale of arms deliveries increased many times over. Recently, in the course of hostilities in Kharkovskaya, soldiers of NATO countries have already begun to fight en masse on the side of Ukraine.
    The leaders of the USA, England, NATO countries openly announced the destruction of Russia as an independent state. This means that these countries once again created a coalition for the destruction and transformation of the country of Russia.
    From the side of the leader Biden, a warning followed in the event of the use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine, with subsequent consequences. The US itself is the first violator of the use of nuclear weapons against Japan, which at that time was at war with the US.
    I think these actions of NATO countries are reckless and must be destroyed.
    Ultimatum.
    In the event of further arms deliveries from NATO after 24:00 on September 24, 2022, Russia will use Tactical Nuclear Weapons to destroy the logistical deliveries of weapons on the territory of Ukraine, highways, railways, airfields capable of receiving aircraft from NATO countries.
    If this is followed by further hostile actions by NATO countries led by the United States and Britain, Russia has the right to use more powerful weapons to stop the military anti-Russian activities of the United States and other NATO countries.
    This Ultimatum shall be published in all mass media on the territory of Russia. The ultimatum comes into force after publication in the Russian media. By September 22, 2022, send the Ultimatum through the channels of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
    President of the Russian Federation ___________signature
  15. Ural_engineer
    Ural_engineer 17 September 2022 08: 12
    +3
    “Putin’s words regarding possible consequences for Ukraine should be taken into account”

    Well, as it were, one should always listen to the words of opponents. But the UWB has never been able to do this.
  16. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 17 September 2022 08: 16
    +3
    Don’t touch the old man already, when no one sees him in the white house, he salivates and bakes pies in the sandbox. He has an exam on 19.09.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX.
    1. poquello
      poquello 17 September 2022 11: 00
      +1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      .He has an exam on 19.09.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX.

      write it on a piece of paper
  17. faiver
    faiver 17 September 2022 08: 16
    +5
    The US administration suddenly began to "warn Russia against the use of nuclear and chemical weapons"
    - whoever mooed, a country that was just marked by the use of both nuclear and chemical weapons, warns others.
  18. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 17 September 2022 08: 21
    +1
    the most important country in the World, the USSR / Russia constantly forms the agenda of the speeches of the presidents and the United States, including ... we can, after all)))
  19. Warm Padded Jacket
    Warm Padded Jacket 17 September 2022 08: 22
    +1
    impose sanctions? another 11586 package?)
  20. Warm Padded Jacket
    Warm Padded Jacket 17 September 2022 08: 24
    +1
    Quote: Svarog
    The greatest resonance in the West was caused by the significant statement of the President of the Russian Federation that we must wait and see "how this counteroffensive will end."

    Waiting is such a feature of our leadership .. they are not in a hurry to go anywhere .. I recall the words that taxes need to be raised slowly .. tariffs .. do not rush, so that the population swallows and does not choke .. And as a result, yes. .poverty, it’s problematic to live until retirement .. but it’s normal to plow for food .. Here the situation can be seen the same .. we are waiting for it to become completely sad, otherwise there will be only 1,5 million population decline .. it will not be enough ..

    Have you ever worked for food? you have nothing to compare with.
  21. Ros 56
    Ros 56 17 September 2022 08: 30
    +3
    At the same time, Biden, answering questions from journalists and for some reason believing that Russia could use nuclear weapons in Ukraine, said that he could not yet say what the answer from the United States would be, but “Russia will definitely become an even greater outcast.”

    Well, who will become who, we'll see, but why this old senile got the idea that Russia will use nuclear weapons in Banderastan is not clear. Well, if you use nuclear weapons, then on the Zaluzhskaya (beyond the puddle) territory with the center in Washington, so that the striped people would not be bored and not bother their heads with all sorts of nonsense with answers.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 17 September 2022 09: 27
      0
      Quote: Ros 56
      but why did this old senile take that Russia will use nuclear weapons in Banderastan, it is not clear

      "What a sober person has on his mind, then (in this case) a senile person has on his tongue." He dreams about it.
  22. MSG363
    MSG363 17 September 2022 08: 34
    +4
    Quote: Sergey Kuzmin
    Vladimir Putin once again reminded that Russia is conducting a special military operation and that within the framework of this operation, Russia will involve only part of the contract component. The greatest resonance in the West was caused by the significant statement of the President of the Russian Federation that we must wait and see "how this counteroffensive will end."
    That's what Putin is doing well - it's that with one phrase he knows how to "put on the ears" of all Western "partners"! Even after these words, effective actions would have followed in the same Kharkov direction ... in general, everything would have been wonderful! And in general - along the entire border of Russia-Ukraine, it is necessary to create a 150 km buffer zone by moving the Ukronazi troops away from the border with Russia in order to protect Russian territories from shelling by the Ukronazis

    Well, did you read the text carefully? And it says, “only part of the contract component is used,” which means that the number of personnel is limited to certain limits and therefore you have to operate with what is available. And if so, then retreat in some specific areas to reduce close fire contact with a superior enemy and the use of long-range forces and means, a completely normal tactical move. And since after him the AFU began to suffer heavy losses, the restoration of the status quo is only a matter of time. What Putin basically said
    1. Alexander Salenko
      Alexander Salenko 17 September 2022 09: 14
      +1
      It is not clear why you were downvoted, a normal statement of your opinion, with which I only partially agree.
  23. _simply
    _simply 17 September 2022 08: 41
    +2
    More tales from old man Joe... It's time to change the punched cards.
  24. Emergency
    Emergency 17 September 2022 08: 44
    +1
    Biden is still answering questions?! Myself? bully
  25. Cheburek
    Cheburek 17 September 2022 08: 46
    -4
    "we must wait and see "how this counteroffensive will end." - indeed, you don’t need to do anything - maybe everything will work itself out, and if it doesn’t work out, then wait a little longer, and so repeat until the end ...
    1. Alexander Salenko
      Alexander Salenko 17 September 2022 09: 15
      +2
      Did Putin say this to the military, or to journalists? What is ber? A definite minus.
      1. Cheburek
        Cheburek 17 September 2022 11: 09
        -3
        Don't worry, without you, NATO and the West will still put down several million minuses, although GDP over the previous two years managed 1.5 million minuses even without them ...
        1. Alexander Salenko
          Alexander Salenko 17 September 2022 17: 13
          0
          Well, at least honestly who you are, I don’t put a minus, history will put a minus.
          1. Cheburek
            Cheburek 17 September 2022 18: 23
            -2
            Honestly, in the Russian Federation, it sounds like an oxymoron, especially after retirement age, and the fact that the state does not owe anything ... They say that the GDP today repaired the ZNPP again and gave electricity to Ukraine, that's what I understand, the struggle for the interests of the Russian Federation ...
            1. Alexander Salenko
              Alexander Salenko 19 September 2022 06: 19
              0
              They say in Ryazan crayfish with such eyes, they eat them and they look at you.
  26. acetophenone
    acetophenone 17 September 2022 09: 22
    +3
    we must wait and see "how this counteroffensive will end."
    - My mom cooks great, maybe...
    Wait ... my mother
    - Wait, your mother
    - Wait ... my mother
    - Wait ... your mother
    - Let's wait
    - Let's wait
    - Let's wait
    - Let's wait

    You can wait for someone who does not wait, but cooks.
  27. poquello
    poquello 17 September 2022 10: 37
    +2
    "for some reason, believing that Russia could use nuclear weapons in Ukraine, he said that he could not yet say what the answer from the United States would be, but "for sure, Russia will become an even greater pariah"
    the dream of the Democrats, they really want Russia to hit Kyiv but not hit Washington and its bases
  28. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 17 September 2022 10: 50
    +1
    Maybe the use of nuclear weapons is justified, sane countries understand that this infection must be burned out in any case using the available methods, and they don’t give a damn about ties and they are not countries.
  29. Amper
    Amper 17 September 2022 13: 03
    +1
    Vova does not lose heart, smiles, everything was fine with him and will be. fellow One can envy a man of great soul, the father of the NATION! Will we win with him? recourse
  30. hector
    hector 17 September 2022 13: 11
    -1
    At the same time, Biden, answering journalists' questions and for some reason believing that Russia could use nuclear weapons in Ukraine, said that he cannot yet say what the US response will be,

    The United States can drop atomic bombs, again, on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Japs are already used to it, trained, and they will think that Russia did it, so the United States will scare everyone again and will not get a war with Russia.
  31. Amper
    Amper 17 September 2022 13: 19
    -2
    Quote: Saboteur_Navy
    This is the direction from the borders, and there is the entire western part, by the way, there is a sense that more goes through the Chop and the Beskid tunnel because they probably changed direction ... for safety

    If the tunnel is overhauled, it would be better with a freight train inside (the losses of the Ukrofascists do not count, probably, it is high time to stop chewing snot), this will be a signal for a serious shift in the minds of the Kremlin residents. good And then viaducts in addition! soldier
  32. Langf
    Langf 17 September 2022 14: 13
    -1
    Hundreds of thousands of Japanese were fired, then, as James Lucas stated, about 20 million people around the world were sheared, and nothing, no outcasts! Satiated, fat, sweet, even without honor and conscience. And what, is this goat-legged to listen to?! Yes, I'm sure that whoever blows up this painted pigsty with the "made in USA" tag first will receive many, many preferences for the long future. Force against global Nazism is the only means that can stop it, and constraint in choosing this force means dooming yourself to defeat in advance.
  33. Kotisha
    Kotisha 17 September 2022 14: 33
    -1
    As always, let's wait and see! What will we see?
    If only these waiters could be forced to personally deliver the funerals of those who, because of them, will not return! so that next time they would not wait, but act decisively without regard to the sworn "partners"!
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  35. Kapany3
    Kapany3 18 September 2022 07: 05
    0
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote from gansales
    No hospoda, RUSSIA is concentrating And all that it could offer the West and NATO .. ​​Now let's start!

    It has been focusing for 30 years already ... the results of concentration are obvious to all sane people .. but they stubbornly believe that those who have been doing everything for XNUMX years ... are still capable of something. And a slow war is beneficial only to the United States .. and not to Russia at all .. I think every believer is aware of this ..

    I'm embarrassed to ask, but are you thinking? And yet, thinking and wishing gum with jeans are the same?
  36. Bronik
    Bronik 19 September 2022 03: 14
    -1
    Quote from gansales
    In the United States, the words "let's see how the Ukrainian counteroffensive" from the President of Russia sparked a discussion

    And not only in the USA .. There, on the site, how many howled ..
    They hoped that Russia was Khan, retreating, etc.
    No hospoda, RUSSIA is concentrating And all that it could offer the West and NATO .. ​​Now let's start! hi
    You can kick again ..hehe

    How much can you focus? "Sharovarniks-sharomyzhniks" beat the army of a superpower in the tail and mane. Only one shameful flight in the Kharkov direction, what is it worth! I'm not saying that the front, as it stood 3 km from Donetsk, is still standing. What am I wrong? First aid kits are bought on aliexpress. Volunteers raise money for thermal imagers and protected radio stations. Disgrace!
  37. Bronik
    Bronik 19 September 2022 03: 16
    -1
    Quote: NOMADE
    Why write so many words? Go ahead, sign up for a volunteer squad!)

    So, it's dangerous. Very dangerous ! Just in case, I prepared signs in different languages: "Hello comrade Chinese (German, Amer., etc.) officer", "Welcome!", "We are glad to welcome you." Ha ha ha. All right! You can't joke, can you?
  38. ivan2022
    ivan2022 20 September 2022 20: 45
    -1
    The Americans were alarmed. And we are used to...
  39. ivan2022
    ivan2022 21 September 2022 14: 17
    -1
    Quote: ivan2022
    The Americans were alarmed. And we are used to...

    Well, what to downvote? We waited and looked ..... How it will end --- in the fog, but it's time for many to go to the front. This is what we should have come to, but where else?