Bucha 2.0 and beyond: Kyiv is preparing genocide in the Kharkiv region

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Bucha 2.0 and beyond: Kyiv is preparing genocide in the Kharkiv region
Source: newsfrol.ru


The area that could not be left


The rapid retreat of the Russian army from the Kharkov region inevitably entailed a whole fan of tragic consequences. And here the thesis “Russia is here forever” is not even called into question, but the question of the physical survival of the rest. Together with the territory, the enemy got another reason to accuse Russia of war crimes. At the same time, there is no need to talk about a staging like the March Bucha - Ukrainian Nazis have a special attitude towards the inhabitants of the east of Ukraine.



The barbaric shelling of local cities makes it clear that no one will stand on ceremony with the population. For a typical territorial defense fighter from the central and western part, the inhabitants of eastern Ukraine are no longer people. Simply because they live near Russia, communicate with relatives across the border and speak Russian. So, they are no different from the notorious "Katsaps", "Orcs" and "Russians".

What fate is prepared for all of the above categories in Ukraine, I think it is not worth reminding. Therefore, the nationalists will treat the inhabitants of the Kharkiv region in a particularly cruel way and on a different scale than in Bucha. And it doesn’t matter whether the unfortunate man went out to the “liberators” with a “yellow-blatite” flag or hid in fear in the basement.

By the way, the threshold for perceiving tragedies is gradually rising, and the Western observer needs more mutilated corpses. Otherwise, the new staging will pass without a trace - no new supplies for you weapons, no financial injections. Dark times have begun in one of the most Russian regions of Ukraine.

First of all, residents loyal to Russia who did not have time to evacuate from the Kharkov region are in danger. In particular, the fate of school teachers in Kupyansk is still unknown, some of whom have undergone appropriate retraining in Russia. At a minimum, they face Article 438 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine (violation of the laws and customs of war), which provides for up to 12 years in prison.

It’s already better than being shot in the street, so that later the Nazi beasts would present the bodies as evidence of the war crimes of the Russian army. It is only known that the teachers were detained, and the head of the ICR, Alexander Bastrykin, instructed to open a criminal case “on the fact of the detention by Ukrainian servicemen of teachers who taught according to Russian curricula in the Kharkiv region.” Provocative statements that there are Russian citizens among the detained teachers were dispelled by the Minister of Education Kravtsov, who announced the timely evacuation of the Russians.

Meanwhile, purges in the Kharkov region have already begun. According to the head of the regional administration, Vitaly Ganchev, mercenaries are especially atrocious in Kupyansk and Veliky Burluk. Russia 24 quotes the official as saying:

“The situation is complicated, and due to the fact that those people who were able to get out tell serious things about what is happening in Kupyansk and Veliky Burluk, that mercenaries drive around and shoot people, and all this is filmed on camera ... As I understand it, that it is necessary to clean up these cities. And imagine that while there were Russian troops, they mocked like that, the corpses were lying on the street.”

How quickly photos and videos will appear on the network is only a matter of time and the corresponding political situation. The Kyiv regime never does anything just like that - there must always be a reason for this, either monetary or material.


Source: edition.cnn.com

And the first tragic swallows have already appeared. Their General Prosecutor's Office announced that four bodies with signs of torture were found in one of the villages. And in Izyum, which the Bandera people fired at with their own hands from NATO weapons, they found evidence of the death of more than a thousand local residents. Western jackals, Euronews reporters, have already arrived in the region for examination. Later, Reuters, DW and France-Presse will catch up on hotter content. These guys will issue conclusions and recommendations to the European public in the best traditions of “unbiased objectivity”. We just have to wait until the punishers do their job.

Given the mistakes of the past


Kharkov region was liberated from the nationalist regime in early March and held out until September. During this time, many Ukrainians went over to the side of Russia. On the one hand, this is an indicator of the fairness of a military special operation, but on the other hand, a large number of pro-Russian citizens is an extensive fund for the brutal provocations of the SBU. No matter how cruel it may sound.

Punishers have already created special telegram channels in the lost territories, in which “caring” people can report on their fellow countrymen, and sometimes simply avenge past grievances. Moreover, during the six months of the special operation, the sympathizers of the Kyiv regime have learned to deftly carry out subversive work.

In particular, everyone is familiar with the mobile application "Diya" with the special function "Electronic Enemy", through which each user can aim at Russian military artillery or drones. Or the Threema messenger from Switzerland, which encrypts the sender's data, which can directly inform the Armed Forces of Ukraine about the location of Russian units. Some of these solutions, of course, will find their application for filtering Ukrainians loyal to Russia.

You can, according to the good old police tradition, follow the call of the local Gestapo:

“Dear citizens, if during the temporary occupation of your locality, you suffered from a crime, or witnessed any crimes, especially military ones, you have information that you consider valuable and useful for the National Police, or have any other issues within the competence law enforcement agencies, report to the police on line 102 and to the duty unit of the Main Directorate of the National Police in the Kharkiv region.”

Let's return to the beginning of March in the suburbs of Kyiv. The work of the nationalists in Bucha and Irpin turned out to be so clumsy that even the biased Western specialist Adrien Boke, who visited the place, pointed out obvious inconsistencies in the logic of what happened.

A professional physician noted that the corpses were specially brought to Bucha for demonstration to foreign journalists. European tabloids, after a long deliberation and, obviously, agreements at the very top, reluctantly admitted that some of the unfortunate people died from the shells of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. They were unable to do more.

To avoid this, the main ideologist of Western Russophobia, Bernard-Henri Levy, has already arrived in the Kharkiv region. This criminal is charged with aggression against Yugoslavia, Libya and Syria. Decisions, of course, were not made by him, but the ideological platform for the bloody events of his handiwork. Now the task is to create an appropriate atmosphere before the arrival of Western guests (and they will definitely arrive) and to eliminate at the root of annoying little things, like those unearthed by the doctor Boke from France.

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation in this regard spoke quite unambiguously:

“Currently, the preparation of such provocations with the involvement of the civilian population in the cities of Konotop and Trostyanets, Sumy region, as well as Borodyanka and Katyuzhanka, Kyiv region, has been completed. We know for certain that the Kyiv regime, in addition, is preparing regular provocative materials about the death of civilians, allegedly as a result of the actions of the Russian army...
Russia has an operational evidence base on impending crimes. A similar scenario to Buchin with unfounded accusations against the Russian Armed Forces will not work this time.”

It only remains to add that the remake of the production in Bucha and Irpin was originally part of the "gentleman's set" of the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kharkiv region. The conquest of a new foothold for staging became one of the goals of the Bandera attack. It remains only to finally put an end to such goal-setting of the Kyiv regime. Once and forever.
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  1. -1
    15 September 2022 04: 55
    Once and forever !
    In Izyum, Ze and his pack are calibrated, Once and for all!
    1. +18
      15 September 2022 05: 58
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      Once and forever !
      In Izyum, Ze and his pack are calibrated, Once and for all!

      It was necessary to "calibrate" it back in Kyiv ...
      1. The comment was deleted.
        1. +10
          15 September 2022 09: 32
          Representatives of OUR government are seriously underperforming in terms of identifying subjects like you. It's true.
          1. 0
            15 September 2022 16: 17
            Tactical cat: tactfully merged.
        2. +3
          15 September 2022 10: 40
          before the arrival of the Ukrainian military
          Locals roamed the streets and looked for shops where there are still cereals and canned food. It spoke Svidomo local in an interview. The chats of that time testify to the same.
        3. +1
          15 September 2022 12: 29
          Quote: military_cat
          The bodies of civilians on the streets of Bucha appeared before the arrival of the Ukrainian military there - there is evidence of this in the form of filming from satellites
          Bodies from satellites? What nonsense!
      2. 0
        15 September 2022 12: 08
        Quote: Luminman
        in Kyiv...

        Maybe in the toilet! Deserved....
    2. +1
      15 September 2022 06: 56
      MO again green profukalo
    3. +17
      15 September 2022 07: 16
      First you need to calibrate the traitors and traitors in your country. They walk around the Kremlin and Moscow on foot.
    4. -8
      15 September 2022 08: 40
      Quote from Uncle Lee
      In Izyum, Ze and his pack are calibrated, Once and for all!

      Vladimir Zelensky got into an accident in Kyiv. This was announced by his press secretary.

      Another car crashed into the car in which Zelensky was.

      Medics in the cortege examined the injured driver, he was taken away by an ambulance.
      Zelensky was also examined by a doctor, who did not find any serious injuries.
      The collision took place around midnight on Victory Square.

      First call? Or bad performance? But clearly not Petrov and Boshirov, they would not have missed. But maybe this will make Zelya sit quietly in the bunker?
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      2. 0
        15 September 2022 11: 47
        Quote: Egoza
        First call?

        This happens when you get too carried away with a photo shoot or selfie. Self-love will not lead to good
  2. +12
    15 September 2022 04: 56
    Kyiv is preparing genocide in the Kharkiv region

    It is this aspect that upsets me the most. Do people deserve it?
    There is no desire to go into details of the Nazi-Bandera methods. It just needs to be stopped so that it doesn't get out of hand.
    1. +23
      15 September 2022 06: 37
      Passports with the tricolor did not have to be handed out and the referendum announced. They threw people. They told them that Russia is here forever, and then in three days they carried out a successful REGROUPING, since it turns out there were no "breakthroughs" of the front. In Kherson, they are now thinking whether it is worth getting a Russian passport, if five brigades of Ukrainian soldiers on the armor of the times of the Department of Internal Affairs with custom-made highmars cause the Russian army to regroup 100 km back, followed by filtration measures and unfolding "collaborators" for CNN material about the atrocities of the orcs... Photo below is best suited for the CAA of the Kharkiv region.
      1. -14
        15 September 2022 08: 53
        The more people from there leave for Russia, the better.
        5 Brigades against 1.5-2 thousand is really a lot. But in fact, they hit into the void, and now they are raking.
      2. +13
        15 September 2022 09: 08
        I completely agree! The Russian authorities and the Supreme Commander-in-Chief are responsible for everything that happened and is happening! When all is well When it is the merit of United Russia Remember the voyages of our leaders to the Donbass, Lugansk and Kupyansk with the slogan Russia is here forever! When everything gets worse and worse, so the power aside. No one spoke to the people and did not honestly say what was happening. No matter how much we laughed at Zelensky, we didn’t expose him in an unsightly light, but he is with his people. Performs, supports, even when we seem to have "won". And what did our Supreme Commander say that he fully trusts the MO. And everyone repeats as a mantra the tasks will be completed, but when. Probably by 2035
        1. +1
          15 September 2022 10: 38
          Zelya with his people. And the Kharkovites who are on the filtration are no longer his people?
        2. +2
          15 September 2022 10: 44
          but he is with his people
          And where does he go from the submarine? They keep him on a short leash and he won’t be able to escape even to North Korea, they won’t accept him. And in other places they will find him, accuse him of corruption and arms trafficking to the left and interrupt his acting career.
  3. +5
    15 September 2022 04: 58
    Track and fuck this "criminal". Although what am I talking about, Zelya travels freely and with impunity wherever he wants ....
    1. +14
      15 September 2022 05: 49
      Someone, oh how they do not like our proposals, to calibrate Zelya and his fascist Caudle!
      1. +5
        15 September 2022 06: 01
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        calibrate Zelya and his fascist caudle

        Yes, no one is this "figure", the principle is important here - Nazi creatures should be afraid. In the meantime, they are afraid "no matter what happens, what the world community will think." Ugh...
      2. -7
        15 September 2022 07: 57
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        Someone, oh how they do not like our proposals, to calibrate Zelya and his fascist Caudle!

        Thought:
        - SR Mironov proposes to recognize the current government in Kyiv.
        - LDPR Slutsky quarreled with the Nazis in the negotiations on the surrender of Russia.

        1. -2
          15 September 2022 16: 33
          Quote: Boris55
          LDPR Slutsky quarreled with the Nazis in the negotiations on the surrender of Russia.
          "On the capitulation of Russia" - did Arestovich put the negotiations in such a frame? Or did Lavrov and Shoigu send their deputies to negotiate the terms of Russia's surrender?
    2. +3
      15 September 2022 10: 40
      Surely Zelya came yesterday quietly, they filmed everything and presented it today, so calibrate yesterday.
      1. +1
        15 September 2022 16: 18
        Quote: Hermit
        so calibrate yesterday.

        Well, "track" is not just written.
  4. 0
    15 September 2022 05: 04
    We do not abandon our own ... MO spoke out ... unambiguously ... Hmm. By the way, I could be wrong, but the author seems to have something to do with MO. Pies, so to speak, piping hot wink
    1. -1
      15 September 2022 10: 45
      Kurva is a woman with reduced social responsibility (Polish), and you measure them with a meter.
  5. +36
    15 September 2022 05: 10
    The Russian government and the command of the Russian army knew EXCELLENTLY about the habits of Bandormrazei. They have not changed at all since the time of Khmelnytsky: we run or rake from the armies (if there is no 5:1 advantage), we genocide and rob civilians. Notes about Khmelnytsky's "exploits" against small Polish towns are absolutely not classified, with barrows from the heads of Poles and others. No, not from the heads of the Polish soldiers, they themselves made barrows from the heads of bandits of goats (it’s a pity that there are few). Namely, from the heads of the peaceful. Let Polish, but still peaceful. The Russian tsars then did not understand what kind of caudal rabid hyenas they contacted. And very soon the banderlogs again showed themselves in all their glory - Mazepa's betrayal. And ABSOLUTELY nothing has changed, as shown by the Great Patriotic War. Banderoscotts ran across to the sides of Germany in orderly rows, and again chubobanderlogs raked regularly from the Soviet Army and Partisans, but oh, how they took revenge on the civilian population, for example, on Russian teachers and doctors AFTER the war. And again, the leadership of the USSR did not draw any conclusions, blinded by the good, but naive and stupid idea of ​​"Internationalism". A nation can be considered a country that has its own land and country. For example Georgia. The history of independent Georgia may not be the most glorious, but it exists. The history of ancient Armenia, is. And there is no history of "Ukraine". From the word at all. There can be no history where there has never been a country. But the CPSU, in its unparalleled but naive kindness, invented history for them, even taught in schools, and even then the students asked how we can teach the History of Ukraine, if there was NEVER on the maps of Ukraine, before the advent of the USSR. In response, the teachers avoided the question and mumbled indistinctly. Now this "History of the Great People", which was invented by kind, but naive historians from the CPSU, out of pity, is cited by modern banderlogs to show their "greatness" and "antiquity". But the Hyena nature of the Banderonedoprimates has not changed, on the contrary, they have become even bolder, more cruel and cunning - an inferiority complex of a fictitious "people".
    So the political and command elite of Russia absolutely knew exactly who she was dealing with. Those who did not remember the story, Bucha showed it perfectly. But all the same, it was decided to first withdraw heavy weapons and throw special forces policemen and untrained mobilized to the front line, and not build additional lines of defense. It was decided to IGNORE the concentration of Banderonatsik forces, and a decision was made to drape. Knowing perfectly well what will be arranged on the territory of Banderohyena. But the decision was made. And the responsibility for the consequences is entirely on the conscience (if any) of Russia's political and military command. You see, if you push a person over the side of the ship, knowing that there are sharks in the water, then it is not so much the sharks who will eat him that are to blame, but you - who the chelas threw overboard. Banderohyens do only what they have in the firmware of the spinal cord, at the level of instincts - to engage in robbery and sadism with those who cannot do anything to them, for example, with Russian prisoners. (see shooting through the knees, cutting the tendons and throwing into the river). And from the atrocities of the banderogens, not only the worldly-wise Turks, but also the SSovtsy, went nuts. You need to be a non-being of a special kind in order for the SS to shoot you for cruelty towards prisoners and civilians, but the commanders of the Banderogien were honored with this dubious honor more than once or twice. Already at the farce level "Kicked out of the SS for cruelty" - remember there was such a joke? So, in relation to Banderoschweinen, this is not a joke, but a reality. By the way, neither the SS nor the NSDAP leaders had any illusions about Bandera, the Internet is full of their statements. Moreover, the habits of Bandera were used as proof of the animal nature of all Slavs. And the command of Russia left those who believed them to be torn to pieces by these underprimates.
    There is an article in the US Criminal Code - Reckless endangerment. This is when your actions put in an immediate and immediate threat to the life and health of others. In the United States, if such behavior did not result in injury and death of the victim, it is punishable by up to a year. If it led to the injury of the victim, it is punishable by up to 3 years. If to death, then the term is already up to 10 years. So think about how long the person who gave all these orders worked for. Rabid Hyenas are rabid hyenas, but what do you call a person who abandons others, leaving them to be torn to pieces by rabid hyenas? I will not answer this question. Answer yourself.
    By the way, your political and military leadership may say goodbye to dreams that the local population will go over to the side of Russia and help them. Already TWO TIMES in half a year you leave those who trusted you to be torn to pieces by rabid hyenas - Bandera razes. Despite everything, "Russia is here forever." Lying twice - who will believe you.?

    By the way, all excuses like "The Armed Forces of Ukraine have more soldiers and they have mercenaries" are not for me, but for the command of the Russian army that planned this "brilliant" invasion plan, and even when they saw that the plan, to put it mildly, did not correspond to reality at all (except perhaps in some kind of parallel reality that can only be achieved through the use of heavy psychotropic substances), your command and leadership closed their eyes and ears, and shouting "La la la, but I don't see or hear anything" refused to change anything in this regard. If you're lucky, you may be able to avoid a military defeat. If you are very lucky, then you may be able to not only keep the DPR / LPR and Zaporozhye, but also break through the "Danzig Corridor" in Transnistria and Crimea. True, this does not require balabolism on TV with a Ferris wheel and fireworks, not 3 churches a day, but 3 regiments sent to war a day. But you can't get away from reputational and political defeats. Every tragedy has surnames, first names and patronymics, and all of them are on the orders that led to the defeat, this is not a secret, and Stirlitz is not needed to find these names. The only question is whether the leadership has the courage to punish the guilty or "the system has learned to forgive, especially respected people."
    1. +13
      15 September 2022 05: 50
      Sergei Markov (yes, the one who speaks on TV) practically openly says that there is a "party of betrayal" in the leadership of Russia, which keeps the president under its control. For example, the very surrender of the Kharkiv region, especially considering that its northern part was left in the absence of a threat of encirclement, very much resembles a behind-the-scenes deal in which Putin was "deceived" once again.

      “However, Putin allowed himself to be deceived partly at the talks in Kyiv in February 2014. Then Putin let himself be deceived at the talks in Geneva in April 2014. Then they deceived Putin at the end of the Minsk-1 talks, then at the end of the Minsk-2 talks. Then, following the results of the negotiations, Istanbul-3 was deceived ... If Putin allowed himself to be deceived five times, then it becomes clear: it’s not a matter of naivety, apparently, there are some political structures within the Russian government that force them to repeat the same mistake over and over again and trust Western negotiators."
      1. +6
        15 September 2022 05: 59
        Testimony of a front-line soldier from the Kharkov direction, which Z. Prilepin cites:
        “The reasons for the withdrawal from our positions for many remained incomprehensible. Where we stood, there was no threat of encirclement, and it was possible to confidently hold the defense.
        Quite serious columns walked past us, which could also organize defense, but calmly went further.
      2. +26
        15 September 2022 06: 30
        Oh, now minuses will fly to me, for the fact that I: a) Mischling. b) Veteran of the US Armed Forces. c) I dare to express an opinion other than yelling. But I'll say it anyway. You cannot deceive a person 5 times in a row if he himself sincerely does not want to be deceived. He then, if anything, is innocent, he, a poor, and naive, kind, trusting person, was deceived by evil spirits ... Five times. Remember the crow from the cartoon? "I'm naive, I'm gullible, I'm easily deceived... the most important thing is to escape in time - HAHAHA." This is exactly what comes to my mind when I hear once again from Putin "We were deceived, this has never happened, and here again for the 5th time."
        The funny (or rather sad) fact is that little fact that one person in LiveJournal, very close to the special services, says, and he says the following: a) Putin was APPOINTED by Yeltsin as a successor, Yeltsin ABSOLUTELY knew for sure that Putin would continue what he started, otherwise would not appoint. By the way, one of the Oligarchs said last year "Putin is our representative and he will NEVER go against our team and interests" - I will find a quote and I will say it. And Yeltsin appointed him with the full approval of American advisers, who, as we all know, revolved around Yeltsin like flies around a cow dung cake. b) Putin has repeatedly said that he is "the most important liberal." c) Putin greatly contributed to the opening of not only the Yeltsin Center (thanks to the benefactor), but also more than once admitted his sympathy for Solzhenitsyn, whose lies were exposed more than once or twice or ten, and in the same sympathy for the Nazi and anti-Soviet (and therefore Russophobe ), Ilyin. Well, and much more that was mentioned more than once or twice on this resource, at least the fact that the decision to kill the MiG-1.44 program was made at the top, that the decision to kill the program on AFAR radars was made at the very top. That the decision to abandon single-engine aircraft, which not only makes the aircraft much more expensive, much less reliable (the United States lost more F-15s than F-16s in accidents, and the engine is the same), but also corny limits the number of aircraft that can be produced. If your industry makes 60 engines a year, then you can only make 30 twin-engine aircraft. The United States understood this, and if it was originally planned to have the F-15 / F-16 ratio as 1: 3, now it’s already 1: 6 or 1: 7, I don’t remember. The fact that a twin-engine aircraft consumes more fuel and is more expensive and longer to maintain on its own. And very, very much more. How the WHOLE field was cleared of some sane candidates as an alternative to Putin. Zhirik bought corny, Zyuganov, too. And other communists and others like them were either discredited or set up as set-ups (Platoshkin). Some, for example, the very smart and patriotic Starikov, were generally pushed into the background.
        The more questions, the more. If Trotsky had a fixed idea for the USSR to burn down on their own, but set fire to the fire of the world revolution (he himself, as we know, was in the USA and came to the USSR after the events of October, with a couple of hundred thousand dollars in chumadans, by the way, Starikov writes about this), it is interesting for what purpose Putin and Co. are acting so...well, as they are acting. So far, it's been a complete failure. See:
        a) "We do not want NATO to enter Banderostan and move closer to our borders." - EPIC FEIL, as a result of this war, the outcome of which is very uncertain, both Finland and Sweden entered NATO, and if at least something from Ukraine will remain, it will still enter NATO.
        b) "Banderostan must be denazified." - EPIC FAIL - Nazi sentiments are growing, Bandera yells happily "We said that the Russians want to capture us all and enslave us, so their army is coming."
        c) "Banderostan must be demilitarized" - EPIC FAIL. Banderghien now has more weapons than it was before the start of this war. And there is no need to cry "Evil bad s and gay Europeans pumped Bandera with weapons." Didn't you know what it would be? You did not know the manners of the United States and England to fight with proxy, arming them to the teeth? Didn't you know? So you have no place in a leadership position, even the director of a car wash. Ah, did you know? Why were Bridges and railway junctions not destroyed? Why is EVERYTHING that goes towards the front not destroyed, down to the last wagon and loaf? After all, this is exactly how the US Air Force, Britain and the USSR acted during the Second World War. After all, this is exactly how the United States acted in Iraq, Vietnam, and Korea. Is something moving on the roads, even a donkey cart? We go in and wool, even on a cart with a donkey there can be a mortar with mines or a recoilless one. Absolutely correct approach. Didn't your ugly generals know that you can hide a howitzer in a wagon? They knew. But they didn't work.
        d) We are returning the Russian World - Epic Fail. Twice people who believed in the Russian world were thrown to death and torture.

        For all its rottenness, in the United States, for such pro-loves, any general would have flown out of the Armed Forces ahead of his own screeching, in disgrace, with demotion. That is why when the civil authorities bring some kind of blizzard, our generals immediately protest in WRITTEN FORM - so that in which case they themselves would not be accused of a puncture, clearly understanding that a congressman angry with you is bad, but when they blamed you for defeat in the battle - this is much worse .. Yours - apparently, as far as I was told, EVERYONE understands, but they are afraid to object to the civilian authorities. This reminds me of a conversation between two Soviet generals before the war, emnip this is from the book "Stalin - the Ice Throne". "If the Germans come here, neither me nor you will be worse off." Many will tell me "You served in the US Armed Forces, you cannot be trusted, you shield your own." Of course, it's easier to jump around with cries of "You are a Jew - an immigrant" than to look into the real world. I'll give you an example.

        IN NON-Wartime, the American frigate Stark (Oliver Hazard Perry-class) roamed the Persian Gulf and received two anti-ship missiles as a goodwill gesture from the Iraqi Air Force. The frigate was badly blown apart, but, despite the fact that it is half the size of the "Moscow" from two anti-ship missiles, it did not drown, it was dragged away and repaired. And the captain - at first they wanted to give it to the tribunal, and then demoted and kicked out of the fleet, and not rewarded. And when "Moscow" received the same two anti-ship missiles but a harpoon (there are 60 kg more warheads, EMNIP), then she drowned, and the commander was not put on trial, and was not kicked out of the fleet for negligence, but was awarded. And then you wonder why there are so many punctures in the army.

        There is an opinion, and not only mine, that you have such corruption in the Armed Forces that ANY person in the rank of colonel and above, if they take him for cajones, will tell a lot of interesting things, not only about himself, but also about others, and he will tell such that to the wall will have to put the floor of the General Staff. Therefore, for any puncture you have "Sha and pretend that nothing happened."

        You, in Russia, have forgotten that EVERY prolude has a last name, first name and patronymic (they are on orders, and if the general refuses to give a written order, then all the more you need to doubt the correctness of the order). Moreover, you have forgotten Stalin's words that ANY catastrophe, ANY defeat, ANY failure is due to only two factors: incompetence, or sabotage. There is simply no other explanation. And this is absolutely true, at all levels and in all areas of life. If somewhere something was loved, then either the one who commanded it has no idea what he is doing and does not correspond to the position, or he deliberately created this situation.
        1. -4
          15 September 2022 08: 06
          Your thoughts are logical, it's hard to disagree. But the opponents (elite) in the west in England and the USA are waiting for a change of power by force, in order to create a chaos of anarchies in the Russian Federation, in order to have the opportunity to take control of several more territories around the perimeter already in the Russian Federation itself, several territories have already been taken under control of the buffer zones of the USSR (CIS) after the collapse of the USSR. The memory of the people is still fresh about 1917 and what horrors were famine, looting, etc. I would not like a repetition of those events. And so, you have to endure for the time being, so that it doesn’t get worse. I think that many people understand or guess about it. All in due time and time will tell.
        2. -9
          15 September 2022 08: 56
          Your US girl did a bad job in Iraq, and in a panic she fled from Afghanistan from barmaley in slippers with Kalash. Has anyone been kicked out of the SC for this? So sit straight in your USA on your ass and don't teach the world to fight.
          1. +9
            15 September 2022 09: 17
            We left without leaving a single soldier behind. And leaving - collaborators who today betrayed their people for money, and tomorrow they will betray us for the same money. You've thrown YOURSELF twice. And if we had an ORDER to throw equipment to the Taliban (so that you have a shoblo of scumbags with weapons at your side, YOU, and not us), then you safely threw equipment for the Armed Forces during the drape. and the SECRET (no longer exists) station "Zoo" and the latest T-90s. So it's not for you to blame the American Army for retreating. By the way, our withdrawal from Afghanistan was an AGREEMENT with the Taliban, and yours draped from the Armed Forces of Ukraine quickly leaving the wounded (documented), equipment and civilians who believed you. So don't blame us. WE didn’t abandon our wounded, you abandoned, we didn’t abandon OUR civilians, you abandoned ours, we left the equipment by order, you abandoned in a panic during the drape. Don't blame us. By the way, we didn’t fall in love with Flagman, you fell in love with it. I can go further.
            1. -2
              15 September 2022 11: 25
              During the Great Patriotic War - in the USSR it was customary to talk about the Soviet Army and the leadership of the USSR - only GOOD and nothing but good. BY THE PEOPLE of a terrible Beast named Fascism, which was born precisely by the wild, anti-people, deceitful, slave-owning and usurious CAPITALISM .... By the way, and in the USA itself - it is SHADOW leaders and puppeteers (deep state .... owners of the FRS .. .) the democratic parties are the IDEOLOGICAL followers of G .... Well, you are a smart person and I hope you understand who I mean .... It just seems to them that they are beautifully disguised and smarter than everyone ... G also considered himself smarter everyone....
        3. 0
          15 September 2022 11: 08
          "" ".... There is an opinion, and not only mine, that you have such corruption in the Armed Forces that ANY person in the rank of colonel and above, if they take him for cajones, will tell a lot of interesting things, not only about himself, but also about others, moreover, he will tell such that the floor of the General Staff will have to be placed against the wall ... "".
          --------
          So the authorities of the Russian Federation do not claim that corruption is finished once and for all .... But, after all, they are fighting and there are landings ... Moreover, voices are increasingly heard in the Duma that it is time to revive the death penalty in the Russian Federation, .. .Do you not notice all this? Or don't want to notice? Or do you want to say that there is no corruption in the USA ??? Yes, in the USA there is ALMOST zero corruption among medium and small officials, but there is systemic and legalized corruption (!) ... It's called lobbying ... Have you heard of this? Yes, our President V.V. Putin is not an angel at all, but the majority (OVERWARD ...) of the people of Russia after February 24 is for him, and not for the new Lenin from the German "sealed wagon" - by the name of Navalny ... When an American military pilot was draping from Afghanistan from banderlogs in slippers and with Kalash - he saw and KNEW that on the wheels of his plane, which was already taking off, there were desperate and frightened people who wanted to escape from Afghanistan ... But even after all this - the US Air Force pilot took off and did not blink an eye ... And the Russian pilot in this situation would not have taken off .... Never! By the way, I have a question for you personally - do you consider the atomic bombing of Japanese cities in 1945 by the US Air Force a war crime?? Waiting for an answer....
        4. -2
          15 September 2022 12: 34
          Quote: Baron Pardus
          Oh, now minuses will fly to me, for the fact that I: a) Mischling.
          What is it? Profession (hopefully not some newfangled sexual orientation)?
        5. -1
          15 September 2022 12: 43
          Quote: Baron Pardus
          That the decision to abandon single-engine aircraft, which not only makes the aircraft much more expensive, much less reliable (the United States lost more F-15s than F-16s in accidents, and the engine is the same), but also corny limits the number of aircraft that can be produced. If your industry makes 60 engines a year, then you can only make 30 twin-engine aircraft.
          The task of the MiG-29 was to destroy the F-16, with one engine it could not even catch up with it, let alone defeat it. Our engines have not yet reached the level of Pratt-Whitney (we will catch up if they finish the 2nd stage engine for the Su-57), and even then ... In addition, the military is tired of losing pilots in peacetime on single-engine aircraft. F-15 attacked more? So they performed more complex tasks or the accidents were not caused by problems with the engine. The number of engines in the USSR was not a limiting factor in the production of aircraft, they would have done as much as needed.
        6. -1
          15 September 2022 16: 46
          Quote: Baron Pardus
          How the WHOLE field was cleared of some sane candidates as an alternative to Putin. Zhirik bought corny, Zyuganov, too.
          For you, "sanity" - a synonym for venality? Like, self-sold man?
    2. +17
      15 September 2022 06: 04
      Nobody will punish anyone. In Russia, a system of total irresponsibility of the authorities to the people has developed. This does not feel sorry for its population either (remember the pension reform), and even more so for the inhabitants of Little Russia. Denazification and demilitarization is a front for the layman, is our government much better? Who erected a memorial plaque to Mannerheim? Who erected a monument to Krasnov? The true causes of the war in Ukraine is the war for the land and what is in it, the war of the Russian oligarchy against the oligarchy of Ukraine and the West, about people, what is here, what they think last
      1. +11
        15 September 2022 07: 14
        Excuse me, but who chose capitalism? Who in the kitchens in the late 80s, early 90s whispered "If only we could drive out the commies, then we'll live like in the West, like in America" ​​(the last word was always pronounced with a breath). Who listened to "Voice of America" ​​and "Seva Novgorodtsev, city of london BBC"? Who? Pechenegs with Polovtsy? Who sang the songs "You wake up at dawn - there are no communists in the world", "you wake up in the morning, hello, there is no Soviet Power." Who with a howl read all the "revelations" of Ogonyok and told everyone choking with saliva? Who quietly distributed the "works" of Solzhenitsyn and Viktor Suvorov? Martians? Dark Elves? At our school, teachers DISTRIBUTE this samizdat to the "correct" students. By the way, when I brought such a book to my grandfather, I reported who was distributing it, my grandfather called the right place through old connections, you know what they said: "Do not break the career of an honored teacher with 20 years of experience, who will we replace her with." By the way, this teacher was NOT a Jewess and not even a banderlog, but a real RUSSIAN. By the way, she taught Russian Literature. And not only with us. Who skakuasil under the cries of "Change require our hearts?". Who with a howl read that stream of slop that was sent to Russian history, and not only Soviet history. Starting from the ancients, and howling that Alexander Suvorov was not only a Freemason, but also a homosexual. How they screamed about the "Atrocities" of Ivan the Terrible, although at the same time in the "homeland of democracy" in Britain there was such a frenzy that it was just Achtung. We have ALL moves recorded. The population is reaping the fruits of what they have sown. Who votes for EdRo? Martians? No Mankurt and vote. So the situation in modern Russia is a natural result of the elections that the population of Russia made and those leaders whose population supported them. Either your population regularly votes against their own interests, or all your elections, as they say in the USA, are lies and fraud, just like our elections in 2020. There are no other explanations. Either the population votes for those who have them, or you have neo-feudalism and the population is in the position of "your place at the toilet and under the bench." In any case, it looks like the military elite is absolutely satisfied with everything. It seems that they do not understand that if the ancient Chinese beast Pi Xi De Xi comes to Russia, then it is they, the military, who will be sent to Nuremberg first (see Milosevic), and that in which case the political leadership of Russia will have their own "true friends of the oligarchs" in the bag will be personally brought to Washington. It seems that your leadership, both military and political, does not understand at all that the fate of Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi is becoming REAL for them every day, especially if the Russian Armed Forces are defeated in Banderostan. Are you trying to negotiate? Why should the US negotiate with the losers and the weak. They do not negotiate with the weak and the losers, they are dictated terms. To remind you how the capitulation of Kaiser Germany ended - the country was corny robbed to the last thread. Remind you how the capitulation of the Reich ended? The fact that the newly elected chancellor cannot take office until he is approved by the US Congress. Well, the occupation of Germany by the American army. Did your political and military leaders not read school history books at all? In China, they say that the answers to all the questions of today can be found in the past. And you diligently doused your past with slop and abandoned it. Those who shoot at the past with a gun receive a response from the future with a gun.
        Now you have 1915, approximately, according to the political and military and economic situation. By the way, your Peskov said more than once or twice, "Our goal is Russia during the time of Nicholas II." And what does this mean? And this means 27% literacy, inability to produce anything serious, especially on a large scale, lack of weapons and ammunition, social discontent, which at first smoothly turns into betrayal of the elite (a farce called the February Revolution when the "princes" galloped with red bows yelling "All power to the Constituent Assembly "By the way, don't tell me who exactly arrested NiKalashka ?, obviously not Lenin or Trotsky), then in an explosion of discontent among the population (the Great October Socialist Revolution) gently grew into a Civil War and Intervention. THEN the USSR had Lenin and Stalin. Now you do not have such figures. To be fair, no one has figures of this caliber now. Unless perhaps China.
        1. +6
          15 September 2022 07: 29
          I agree on all points and to be honest, I don’t see a way out yet, I don’t see the force that could pull Russia out of this abyss, the Kremlin chose the most unfortunate period for Russia to follow, which speaks of their mental abilities. With such a war can not be won, and what's next? Defeat and collapse of the country? I don't know and don't see the answer.
        2. +1
          15 September 2022 07: 44
          Solzhenitsyn, Suvorov, Ogonyok and Radio Liberty would not have been able to destroy Soviet power if it were strong. Any government that does not enjoy the support of the people eventually falls with a loud thud. This is if it is objective. And the reasons must be sought not outside, but inside. Although I love the USSR very much. There was never a shame for the Motherland
          1. -1
            15 September 2022 20: 53
            Do you seriously think that he did not use the support of the People? And he, not ready for the class struggle, plunged headlong into this trap. Socialism was formally still, in fact, the authorities stopped supporting its foundations. Corruption and indifference have washed away the foundation. Further, it is a matter of technology, a coup from above is always successful. Power and the layman, like Mike Tyson and a kindergartner. The People of the USSR did not have a chance to stop the restoration, against the security forces, filtered by degenerates and waiting for their part of the pie, from the division of social property, by the security forces. This coup was made by the Office, today its former cog is sitting in the Kremlin. And you did not support the people. Where did you see the passionary in the 80s? Plus the national question. One Baltic and Central Asia was worth what in terms of gap and collapse.
            A Russian American writes not pleasant, even scary, but really truthful words. The Russian army, for real, will only start fighting when the enemy is on the territory of the Russian Federation. And the Donetsk people, apparently, are running out. There were not many of them to defeat NATO
    3. -5
      15 September 2022 07: 26
      You can immediately see the "offended" Pole. In those days, everyone was good, the time was cruel. The Polish lords also "rejoiced in sweetness", dressed the heads of Little Russian peasants on wattle fences. It is clear that they fought with "schismatics". Well, when the answer for their "art" arrived, the Poles were very offended. Read Derzhavin about what the Polish lords did with their Orthodox serfs. Winston Churchill aptly defined Poland as the Hyena of Europe. For the sake of interest, look at the maps of the territorial claims of Poland and Ukraine, they almost completely coincide. Poland is all so "white and fluffy" just look at the list of her latest Wishlist, she has territorial and material claims to all her neighbors. In Russia, these Wishlist spread all the way to the Ural Range and south to the western coast of the Caspian Sea. Poland has gone berserk since it changed its ancient Vedic Faith to peacock-catholic sectarianism. Therefore, it is not for the Poles to open their mouths, it is better to be silent. Only the notorious Slavic "brotherhood with political correctness" does not allow ours to publish all lists of Polish atrocities and crimes. Let the "victim of Nazism" first publish how many Polish SS divisions fought on the Eastern Front. A hyena is a hyena, this definition will not be washed away.
      1. +6
        15 September 2022 08: 20
        You obviously don't know how to read, I wrote that I am a Jew. Moreover, MISHLING, with her mother - Russian and father - Musician :-) Almost like Zhirik and Milch. The Poles behaved ABSOLUTELY correctly. With rebels, especially with peasant riots, which are distinguished by bestial cruelty, it cannot be otherwise. Remind me how they suppressed the food riots in the Republic of Ingushetia in 1895? When they lined up rows of gallows along the tracts on which the peasants hung who had two choices - starvation or rebellion. By the way, all these massacres took place with the full approval of the ZAO ROC. Khmelnitsky, by the way, fought not for "Vera", and not for "Norot", but for the fact that his ESTATE was given equal rights with the NOBILITY, learn history. Naturally, the Poles did not agree to this - robbers and marauders have no place at the same table with a nobleman. And Derzhavin did nothing more than fulfill the state order - he justified the consequences of the fact that Russia fit in with the "brothers of the Orthodox Slavs." By the way, Russia regularly fit in with the Bulgarians and Serbs, how did it work? Which side did the Bratushki take during the two world wars? Who yelled "We will defecate on the graves of your soldiers?" Germans? Italians? No, BULGARIANS AND SERBS. By the way, recently Russia joined Kazakhstan - how did they thank you there? Russophobia and joining the sanctions. Russia saved Armenia from complete defeat. How were you thanked? "Russians get out of here." Armenians, if anything, "Orthodox Brothers."

        Now let's go back to Poland. Poland behaves as its neighbors allow it. This is how ANY country behaves. Why not roll out presenting to the Germans? Since 1945, they have been driven into a sense of collective guilt for 1939-1945, although you need to blame those who first betrayed Germany (their own liberals in the government, see the Strange dream of Prince Baden of Baden), then robbed, then diligently prepared Hitler (they even assigned an Image maker to him, as to Yeltsin), and then they gave me more money. So the Germans were shouting for so many years that they should "Pay and kayatstsa" that the Poles scratched their turnips and decided: Maybe a ride. It doesn’t cost them anything, and there is no risk, well, the Germans will say “No”, which means they will remain with their own people - this is what is called HUTSPA. As a half-breed, I'm telling you this. As for religion, so who is who and Russia in general should be silent about the choice of religion.
        a) "Do not take my word to the Northern Barbarians, for they are pure and there is no sin of the House of Israel on them" is not enough for you?
        b) "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel" Too little? Further on, "But even the DOG gets crumbs from the OWNER's table." Will there be questions?

        Moving on Vladimir was the son of a SLAVED WOMAN. That is, no one, half-dead, not Jarl, even for a second and without Dobrynya's adviser, would not have gotten further than the gallows. Vladimir, realizing that he was a khan, that a coalition was preparing against him, tritely betrayed his faith and traditions for the sake of ... a girl, let her be a Byzantine princess three times, and of course received support from Byzantium. Having kept in power at the expense of the money of the THIRD party, naturally they gave money not from great love and kindness. But he betrayed the faith and traditions of the ancestors for the sake of the female genital organ. At the same time, he managed to bring to Russia such a religion that FOREVER cut Russia off from ALL allies for "Schismatics and heretics". Orthodoxy, which came from Byzantium, which had successfully devoured itself in the intrigues, was equally alien to both the Catholic Church and Islam that appeared later. Orthodoxy itself quite robustly continued its Byzantine traditions of intrigue and betrayal. A small example. During the Mongol Yoke, the Orthodox churches declared Mongol "the scourge of the Lord, to rebel against whom is a sin" and prayed "For the health of the Mongol king." What did the Catholic Church do? On the contrary, it organized and inspired RECONQUISTA - the expulsion of Muslim invaders from the European Continent. Note that they did not pray for the health of the Sultan in any way. How did the Russian Orthodox Church CJSC behave during the Second World War? Faster than its own squeal, it collaborated with the Nazis - photos - dofiga and again declared the Nazis "the scourge of God" and prayed "For the health of the liberator of the Russian land - Adolf Hitler" - documents and photos - on the Internet.

        What the Poles did was the NORM of that time. This is how everyone behaved. The Poles were neither better nor worse than the Russians, nor the British, nor the French, nor the Italians. Peasant uprisings have always been distinguished by the bestial cruelty of people driven to absolute despair, and crushed them with the same bestial cruelty. In any country. I recommend the old Soviet textbooks of the History of the Middle Ages. For starters, it's easy to read, so you should master it. Apparently you need to update the material.
        1. -1
          15 September 2022 11: 48
          a) "Do not take my word to the Northern Barbarians, for they are pure and there is no sin of the House of Israel on them" is not enough for you?
          b) "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel" Too little? Further on, "But even the DOG gets crumbs from the OWNER's table." Will there be questions?


          The Messiah was sent to heal the vanguard of Satanism, which was assigned the role of hitting all the peoples of the world, which over the millennia has been quite successfully done.
          And the peoples of the north were struck no less than the rest.
          At the same time, he managed to bring to Russia such a religion that FOREVER cut Russia off from ALL allies for "Schismatics and heretics". Orthodoxy, which came from Byzantium, which had successfully devoured itself in the intrigues, was equally alien to both the Catholic Church and Islam that appeared later.

          But it lasted longer than the same Catholicism as an antivirus that protects people's minds from the ideas of decay.
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        3. -1
          15 September 2022 23: 40
          And ABSOLUTELY nothing has changed, as shown by the Great Patriotic War. Banderoskots ran in orderly rows to the sides of Germany,
          ______________________________________________________________________________ But I still remember that the Ukrainians were the second in the number of heroes of the Soviet Union after the Russians. And I remember Kozhedub and Kovpak. And many others. Haven't you heard of them?
    4. -8
      15 September 2022 08: 49
      Apparently, it was necessary to leave one and a half thousand of our guys in the half-abandoned Izyum and heroically lay them down, along with those who fall under the hand, and there will be much more of them than if the Banderaites shoot someone.

      In addition, I don’t see something that the Ukrainian population greeted us joyfully, or that the Armed Forces of Ukraine went over to our side. They didn't even realize they were being messed with. Well, if they didn’t understand, it means that power plants will burn, dams will explode, and the Russian army will act only in the interests of military expediency, which in fact will only reduce the number of victims.

      By the way, all excuses like "The Armed Forces of Ukraine have more soldiers and they have mercenaries" are not for me, but for the command of the Russian army, which planned this "brilliant" invasion plan


      The Russian command has very specific restrictions on the resources it can use, and it is not for you to discuss its decisions.
      1. +1
        15 September 2022 10: 37
        But you have to deal with the consequences of these decisions. And if there are resource limitations, then what did the Russian command do for the previous 6 months, when the Armed Forces of Ukraine were preparing a shock fist? Maybe they were sleeping in the General Staff at that time? If the requests did not help, then there should have been resignation reports.
      2. 0
        15 September 2022 11: 55
        Apparently, it was necessary to leave one and a half thousand of our guys in
        half-abandoned Izyum and heroically lay them down, along with those who fall under the hand, and there will be much more of them than if the Bandera people shoot someone.
        Yes, it was necessary to bring reinforcements in advance from the exercise (Vostok-2022) and Biathlon, and not to hold events with the alleged enemy, as well as to prepare artillery. Although I am not a military man, the Russian Federation has all the resources and potential both to repel attacks and to attack. But to be honest with you, I have no idea how it happened in Kharkiv directions. It's just fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        1. +1
          18 September 2022 15: 16
          Yes, this is fantastic for all normal people.
    5. 0
      15 September 2022 10: 05
      THIS IS TRUE!!! +++++++++++++++++
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  6. +8
    15 September 2022 05: 18
    Like many others, I am interested in the question: why the top leadership of Ukraine, like many well-known ideologues of Nazism, continue to engage in their criminal deeds with impunity?! Do we not have the opportunity to eliminate Zelensky, Arestovich, Avakov, Yatsenyuk and other shushara? Pity rockets? During the Great Patriotic War, German leaders and officers in the occupied territory tried, if possible, to eliminate them. Either partisans or NKVD officers. No partisans - let the FSB work, or are there no professionals left? These bastards carry out sabotage in our country, they kill people, but we are not able to?
    1. +10
      15 September 2022 05: 36
      Do we not have the opportunity to eliminate Zelensky, Arestovich, Avakov, Yatsenyuk and other shushara?
      Well, what are you, this is not our method
    2. -1
      15 September 2022 23: 34
      Oh, what if the civilian population of Ukraine doesn’t like it?
  7. -1
    15 September 2022 05: 23
    Evil is near
  8. +5
    15 September 2022 05: 23
    All right.
    But it remains only to cry, to complain that the world is unfair and to believe that (as always in the future) everything will be fine.
    And in the present - since they left the territories, it means that they will be cleaned. And people will think ten times whether it is worth getting Russian passports.
    1. 0
      18 September 2022 15: 19
      In general, in Russian it is called meanness to leave your own to be torn apart by enemies.
  9. +6
    15 September 2022 05: 40
    Kyiv is preparing genocide in the Kharkiv region
    This was to be expected...Now, there is no turning back, until complete denazification, there will be no elections in Ukraine.
  10. 0
    15 September 2022 06: 20
    Provocative statements that there are Russian citizens among the detained teachers were dispelled by the Minister of Education Kravtsov, who announced the timely evacuation of the Russians.

    Not only Russians, but also everyone who wanted to evacuate. By the way, women and children were also evacuated from Kupyansk before the offensive, it is strange that this was not mentioned here. And in the Zaporozhye region, residents are asking for weapons to protect the region from attempts by the APU.
    1. +10
      15 September 2022 06: 31
      You see, these are only your words and rather empty ones. Kravtsov's ministry trained Kharkov teachers to teach in Russian programs and sent them back. Are they not ours now? A clear example of how Russian officials are engaged in lies at the level of a third-grader, while they kill those who trusted them.
      And what did you think about the number of "those who wished to leave"? On the knee? Z. Prilepin narrates the following letter: “We met with the evacuated employees of the temporary administration (of one of the abandoned cities in the Kharkiv direction; all are local residents, former Ukrainians).

      They are amazing people. In fact, they were left (forgotten) in their city, they left on their own, drove through the shelling, still managed to save the wounded soldiers on the way, they understand that at best 5% of the employees of the VGA remaining in the Kharkiv region will survive when Russia returns.

      They have not been paid their salaries since May, as established by the CAA. They themselves restored the city, and now they understand that most likely, if we recapture their city, then everything will be destroyed.

      They were not placed anywhere in Russia, they said “keep the CAA, find a corner somewhere, we will call you when you need it.”

      And with all this, at the request to raise their hands, who is ready to return to their abandoned city, when the Russians recapture it, and work again in the VGA, everyone raised their hands as one. When asked about Russian citizenship, they all said as one that, of course, they were ready to reapply, because their documents were lost, and Russia is their country. They don’t even expect much from the country, they say give an abandoned village, we will restore it and live there for a while. And then we will go to Veliky Burluk, Balakleya, Izyum, Kupyansk again to restore. Greater patriots than most Russians. And for the moment they are abandoned and no one needs them here yet.
      1. -1
        15 September 2022 06: 45
        Quote: Boris Sergeev
        And what did you think about the number of "those who wished to leave"? On the knee? Z

        Did I consider anyone?
        You see, these are only your words and rather empty

        Firstly, these are not my words, but the CAA of the region and I have no reason to believe B. Sergeev, unknown to me, more than them, especially in the current conditions.
        1. 0
          15 September 2022 07: 17
          In my opinion, I did not offer myself as a source of information. As for the issue of trust, this is a very subjective thing. Some believe that a "regrouping" has taken place in the Kharkiv region, but do those who invented and voiced this thesis believe in this?
          1. -2
            15 September 2022 09: 29
            Quote: Boris Sergeev
            In my opinion, I did not offer myself as a source of information.

            I myself too Yes however, this did not prevent you from doubting for some reason precisely in my words. In fact, once again, there was an evacuation not only of teachers, in Kupyansk (even judging by the news feed) before the onset of the APU, it is not worth judging by the level of the evacuation by one letter, but a check must be carried out with the letter.
            And what you believe in, one or some is not important to me. Yes
            1. 0
              15 September 2022 10: 42
              Alas, trust in news feeds equals trust in Mr. Konashenkov. "Vertical" is now trying with all its might to close up a reputational hole, exercising the so-called "damage control". The representative of the CAA is the same cog in the "vertical" as Minister Kravtsov, and both of them will say what is beneficial to their bosses.
  11. +13
    15 September 2022 06: 20
    If we ignore ... the term "regrouping" and call a spade a spade, then the command of the Russian group in the Kharkov region threw residents of Balakleya, Izyum and Volchansk to reprise Bandera. The explanation "they escaped encirclement and saved the lives of servicemen" does not stand up to criticism, because it is not known how many people remained there who managed to obtain Russian citizenship. Simply put, the army did not protect its civilian population from destruction. Something like this. https://t.me/worldandwe/2070
    1. -7
      15 September 2022 08: 05
      Quote: avia12005
      Simply put, the army did not protect its civilian population from destruction.

      Don't try to blame us for something we didn't do.

      In the Second World War, the Nazis captured 10% of the territory of the USSR. The fascist reached Moscow.
      Do you think Stalin should have been sent to the Gulag in 1941?
      The Trotskyists tried to do it. They didn't succeed.

      All the atrocities committed by the terrorist rabble there are on the conscience of the West.
      1. +5
        15 September 2022 08: 34
        Have you forgotten that Stalin shot Pavlov for the collapse of the Western Front?
        1. -5
          15 September 2022 08: 44
          Quote: Boris Sergeev
          Stalin shot Pavlov

          Personally, right at the Kremlin wall?

          Quote: Boris Sergeev
          for the collapse of the Western Front

          And how did it help stop the Nazis?

          That we were outwitted is a fact.
          The fact that it started at the time when Putin and Shoigu were on D. Vaostok is a fact.
          The coordinated actions of enemies and traitors led to sad results.

          "Each "error" has a surname, name and patronymic". You have to answer for mistakes.
          1. -1
            15 September 2022 10: 45
            I think that the execution of the front commander in 1941 at least showed everyone the measure of their responsibility for the decisions made and that the demand from generals and privates would be the same. And this, of course, helped stop the Nazis.
      2. +6
        15 September 2022 08: 41
        And unlike in 1941, there are a lot of oddities in the drape from the Kharkov region, starting with the fact that the concentration of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was written on many Telegram channels (intelligence, even more so!), But the command did not take any measures. The surrender of Balakleya and Kupyansk looks a lot like a "deal" in which Putin was "deceived" again.
        1. -5
          15 September 2022 08: 54
          Quote: Boris Sergeev
          The surrender of Balakleya and Kupyansk looks a lot like a "deal" in which Putin was "deceived" again.

          Such statements must either be supported by evidence, or be prepared for the fact that you will be accused of lying. What I do is you lie blatantly.
          1. +3
            15 September 2022 09: 20
            Learn to read. Your submission was answered above. Especially for those who Niasililpatamushomnogabukff I reprint here

            "Testimony of a front-line soldier from the Kharkov direction, which Z. Prilepin cites:
            “The reasons for the withdrawal from our positions for many remained incomprehensible. Where we stood, there was no threat of encirclement, and it was possible to confidently hold the defense.
            Quite serious columns were passing by us, which could also organize defense, but calmly went further.
            1. -3
              15 September 2022 09: 44
              Regarding your testimony:
              If someone does not understand something, these are his problems and lack of information, and not evidence of a "negotiable". Prilepin does not belong to the Moscow Region and cannot assess the waste, due to his lack of information. What is he actually talking about. So get past..
              Once again, for the slow-witted, hostilities are underway, if you are sure of the information and there is confirmation, lay it out, if not, then all the insinuations in the direction of the RF Armed Forces are helping the enemy. If you help the enemy, you are the enemy. When the database runs out, write conjectures, criticize, panic. In time - do everything to help your army as best you can, including morally, supporting it everywhere, including the Internet
              1. +8
                15 September 2022 09: 58
                If the databases go as they go, then they will end with US and NATO troops in the Urals.
                And the Moscow Region will not testify against itself. They don't have the courage and dignity to admit, "We've made a terrible mistake." The Ministry of Defense yells about the losses inflicted by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. So, according to the losses, Russia destroyed the Khoklonedovermacht 3 times, and the Khokhlonedolluftwaffe 4 times. The only question is from whom is the Russian army draping? Who is pushing her? Whose attacks does she deflect? Erich von Manstein, Joachim Piper returned from hell to repeat Kharkov 1943? Take away no. Hohlonedovermacht did without them. By the way, remind me again, if a pack of lions led by a ram loses to a pack of rams led by a lion, who do you need to be to lose a herd of cosplayers led by a clown? think about it.
                1. -4
                  15 September 2022 10: 17
                  Quote: Baron Pardus
                  If the database will go as they go,

                  You're stupid? It doesn't matter how - they go. Period. And act all that I wrote above.
                  The rest is your stretching of the owl on the globe. And heaping shit.
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          2. -2
            15 September 2022 10: 52
            It doesn't take much intelligence to shake words. The fact that Putin, signing agreements with Western "partners", constantly then turns out to be "deceived" is a fact, and above is a quote from Sergei Markov, where he listed all these cases. A series of "deceptions" has turned into a system, which already excludes their random nature. Yes, and under any such agreement, an examination of the relevant departments is carried out. That is, either the expert opinions are ignored, or they are "fake" in nature. Both are worse.
            1. -4
              15 September 2022 10: 55
              In addition, there is numerous evidence of the oddities of the Kharkov drape. I bring one more:

              Anna Dolgareva shares with us the private opinion of a soldier who fought near Izyum:

              “Secondly, there were enough forces for defense, but they began to withdraw already from last weekend. The day before yesterday, in one of the houses for the whole block, I was the only military man left. And his wings were no longer childish, the house was damaged, but not much yet. That is, if last weekend the forces had not been taken away, but engaged in defense, this defeat would have been avoided
              Thirdly, I did not observe our aviation, only their drones
              And fourthly: the very weak work of our art, and its absence - this work - in the last 4 days "
              1. -5
                15 September 2022 10: 59
                Quote: Boris Sergeev
                evidence of the oddities of Kharkov drape

                Oh, you even came up with a name...
                With oddities, this is for ufologists. Is there any confirmed information about the deal? Not? You are a liar claiming that such a thing exists. Dot.
                1. -3
                  15 September 2022 11: 38
                  No, dots. About the "agreement" I said that there are reasons to suspect its existence and I gave you confirmation of my doubts.
          3. 0
            18 September 2022 15: 28
            They write to you - looks a lot on the "agreement", so there is nothing to blame .....
            1. 0
              18 September 2022 15: 57
              Quote: VladMirU
              They write to you - looks a lot on the "agreement", so there is nothing to blame .....

              They do not write to me, but in the media, if they wrote to me in a personal, there would be no questions. And in the media, you need to watch your language. Anderstand?
              P S. Poke, bad habit ..
        2. -4
          15 September 2022 08: 58
          Quote: Boris Sergeev
          The surrender of Balakleya with Kupyansk looks a lot like a "negotiable"

          Various clan-corporate groups in Russia are trying to use an external enemy to achieve their political goals. One of them is to make a coup, put the country at the feet of enemies and receive a "candle factory" from the owner as a reward.

          Quote: Boris Sergeev
          Putin was "deceived" again.

          Putin was not deceived, but Russia was betrayed.
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  12. +3
    15 September 2022 06: 30
    If Bernard Levy has already arrived - this scumbag, then expect new surprises like Butch 2,3,4 ...!!! How could they bring to what state, they left our people to be torn apart !!!? Shame on all the idiots who are involved in this!!! Again 2 + 2 ..... Where are the blows to the CPR !!?? ....
  13. +4
    15 September 2022 06: 33
    Maybe it's time to regroup the leadership of the MO IGSH! ??? What kind of tricks are they doing with the second army of the world???? A disgrace in the stripes ....
  14. +1
    15 September 2022 06: 46
    Chopping off the head, burning in the square, duels - all this is considered a relic of the past. Of the distant past. And suddenly the war did not enter into this category. Although no less terrible things are happening on it. Those who experienced the hardships of the war in their own skin raised a toast that it was not. Others say “we will repeat.” Nothing can be repeated exactly. time.
  15. +8
    15 September 2022 07: 31
    In a word, it’s a disgrace, because the tank biathlons are beautiful and the exercises in the Far East, if our leadership continues to show political and military impotence, then we can expect an increase in anti-war sentiment in Russia, no matter who we talk to on the topic of NWO, everyone is indignant act of our MO in the Kharkiv region
    1. -3
      15 September 2022 08: 39
      everyone is indignant at the act of our Defense Ministry in the Kharkov region

      Well, Konashenkov will not talk about the need to move the front line away from Donetsk, the local "policemen" cannot do without the RF Armed Forces. Although they were showing off for 8 years. So the second liberation of Donbass will begin soon, although I think this is the wrong decision. We have an unfavorable disposition of troops, along the outer arc. And for victory, the concentration of troops is necessary.
      1. -1
        15 September 2022 23: 51
        The Minsk agreements were imposed on the DPR troops, if you don't remember.
    2. -3
      15 September 2022 12: 21
      and many more don’t even know that they left the Kharkiv region, most are not interested in NWO
  16. +1
    15 September 2022 07: 41
    Already wrote about it
    "Home
    Codes
    Criminal Code of Ukraine
    SPECIAL PART
    Section XX
    Article 438. Violation of laws and customs of war
    Article 438 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine.
    Violation of the laws and customs of war
    1. Ill-treatment of prisoners of war or civilians, expulsion of civilians for forced labor, looting of national values ​​in occupied territory, use of means of warfare prohibited by international law, other violations of the laws and customs of war provided for by international treaties, the consent to be bound by which is granted by the Supreme Rada of Ukraine, as well as issuing an order to commit such actions -
    shall be punishable by imprisonment for a term of eight to twelve years.
    2. The same acts, if they are associated with premeditated murder, -
    shall be punishable by deprivation of liberty for a term of ten to fifteen years or life imprisonment."

    With the same success, they could impute them, for example - violation of the rules for operating elevators ...
    This article is for military personnel- planting civilians on it is legal nonsense.
    However, the whole country 404 is legal nonsense
    Of course they will put them in jail - they need a good example and we will not do anything about it. Alas ....
    I agree, it looks rather ugly - from our side ...
  17. -1
    15 September 2022 08: 37
    Six months now, once and for all. What, it's a pity to throw a couple of thermobaric bombs on a cluster of Western jackals and subhumans? Where does this kind attitude towards the mistakes of the Lord God come from?
  18. -1
    15 September 2022 08: 41
    1) Bucha has long been forgotten.
    2) If in the West they don’t want to listen to our position in any case, then there’s nothing to worry about what they say about us.
    3) When the West is brought to its knees, it will begin to listen, and this requires a military victory.
    4) If someone feels sorry for the local residents, who in the mass have long been dumped either in Russia or to the west, then maybe for a start we will take pity on our boys, who may die in the defense of the urban settlements and their families that have no military significance.
    5) Dill, especially Mykolam from the defense industry, is somehow not up to showdowns with the locals.
  19. +3
    15 September 2022 09: 22
    the ideologist of Western Russophobia is Bernard-Henri Levy.

    Oh, the characters of Dugin's inner world appeared on VO.
  20. -2
    15 September 2022 09: 35
    Bernard Henri Levy is that Kashchei the Immortal, who walked in Odessa next to the Nazi Marchenko ....? Very similar to Kashchei from Pushkin's fairy tale... :-)... The same thin and long fingers with claws (sorry, nails...), sharp and hooked nose, evil eyes....
  21. +2
    15 September 2022 10: 58
    And who will believe us?

    Six people were convicted for playing a Ukrainian song in Crimea. At the wedding in the restaurant "Arpat" in Bakhchisarai, the guests turned on the song "Chervona Kalina". The owner of the banquet hall received 15 days of arrest, the DJ and the dancer - 10 days each, the mother of the groom - 5 days, the mother of the bride - a fine of 40 thousand rubles, the wife of the owner of the restaurant - 50 thousand rubles.

    All of them were found guilty under articles on "propaganda of Nazi paraphernalia or symbols" and "discrediting" the Russian army.

    And here is a similar news from the other side of the globe:
    October 29 - The local Taliban, who heard the sounds of music, came to the celebration and opened fire to kill. At a minimum, RIA Novosti reports, two guests were killed and 10 more people were injured.
  22. -4
    15 September 2022 11: 44
    Kharkov region was liberated from the nationalist regime in early March and held out until September.

    But nothing that Kharkov itself was not ours, and there is still a lot of land?
    1. -2
      15 September 2022 12: 00
      It may not have been yours, but it was ours.
  23. -2
    15 September 2022 14: 41
    Why did the male population of the Kharkov region not become under arms? The Russians came, freed them, fed them, then rebuilt them, but what about the local population? Heifers? Well, they are slaughtered in the first place, no matter how cruel it sounds. A man with a machine gun is a bit hard to beat. We measure these khataskrayniks by ourselves. They hijacked the country, they themselves fled to the sides, from 50 million to 30 million the population was reduced in 30 years, and we still consider them brothers. So the seventh water on jelly in the majority.
    1. -1
      15 September 2022 16: 10
      Let's draw parallels:
      At 41, the "liberators" from the communists came with their "New Order", as far as I know, there was no mass entry into the Wehrmacht and there were still no policemen. But in the SA after the release was.
      Now the "liberators" have come with their "Russian World" (the name is another, the principle is the same) and again there is no mass record for them.
      And now, when the occupied territories have been liberated, naturally they will join the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a considerable amount of occupiers has accumulated, many have killed relatives, destroyed houses, broken destinies ...
      1. 0
        15 September 2022 18: 36
        Oooh, that is, it comes to why Donbass "does not love" you.
  24. for
    +2
    15 September 2022 15: 00
    Bucha 2.0 and beyond: Kyiv is preparing genocide in the Kharkiv region

    And we help him!
  25. 0
    15 September 2022 15: 03
    It remains only to finally put an end to such goal-setting of the Kyiv regime. Once and forever.

    Once and for all - as always, there was a 146% chance to decide "once and for all" - when Zelensky arrived (and not alone !!!) to show off in front of the cameras in the cities that we left - the Ministry of Defense did not notice him ... (softly so I’ll say) All it took was to raise the strategists, since it’s a pity for the missiles - and only memories would remain ... Such a chance, such a chance !!! All the leadership of Ukraine (almost everything) in one place "within walking distance" - and ... nothing ... belay winked
  26. 0
    15 September 2022 17: 57
    Kupyansk is close to our troops, is there really no strength to recapture at all and at the same time free the teachers?
  27. +1
    15 September 2022 19: 34
    the situation in our country is strange. All citizens of our country see that with the conduct of a special operation in Ukraine, many incomprehensible questions have arisen about the actions of our troops on the territory not , hence the fierce disputes of patriots arise and such articles about abandoned Ukrainians to their fate, the word abandoned somehow does not fit this situation. And of course the search for the guilty, the eternal question of who is to blame and what to do. it’s right not to sleep and stay in a relaxed state and, of course, the administration of the head of state for some kind of indistinct mumbling about what we want from the special operation and who and how we should free then and bring the light of the Russian world to the wild Papuans Ukrainians. And here it’s still weak with this, we’re freeing whom and from whom, the DPR and LPR are clear, but the rest is how. a gold mine for the Ukrainian special services, they carry all sorts of nonsense, fight in hysterics, it’s just a shame to read that. Here’s how the author’s article, dear, and what is legally already Kharkov the region is Russia, you just discard your emotions and ask yourself the question of how, you never know who and what they promised and will promise to whom. These two republics have been waiting for recognition since 2014. The question, apart from the unfounded chatter of individual officials, was not resolved in any way. That's the worst thing, some kind of political impotence of the state apparatus. It seems that at the top they themselves were afraid of what they had done and happened in Ukraine. Now about the question of what to do, the military to fight, politicians work in the political sphere, economists work in the economy, just stop crying and whining and sending curses. After mobilization, everyone should be put under arms, convicts, guys from Papua New Guinea, shout around the world who wants to kill an American, everyone is a visit to us. Well, seriously, in FIG we are mobilizing if we have 500000 thousand conscript soldiers sitting in the barracks and eating government bread, I don’t do anything. It’s just some kind of absurdity, we are chasing men under 30,40 years old, and foreheads they don’t fight a state koshte, it’s some kind of surt. It can’t be like that. And who then fought in Afghanistan and Chechnya. days of anxiety and doubt, this is the information. The number of the Ground Forces of the Russian Federation is about 19 thousand, the number of the Russian Guard is about 8 bayonets, it’s really funny. regions. And to convey many thanks to the leaders of the regions who plucked up courage and did not spend this Sabbat on the blood of the days of cities. There are still courageous and adequate people in Russia. And victory will be ours because the truth is on our side.
  28. -1
    15 September 2022 21: 01
    however, nothing new: while the General Staff of the Armed Forces is crushing rolls, Ukrainian and not only utyrks are raging on our lands
  29. -2
    15 September 2022 23: 46
    Quote: Nastia Makarova
    and many more don’t even know that they left the Kharkiv region, most are not interested in NWO

    It's terrible, but you can't blame people for this. I myself brushed it aside and said: "I only know that I know nothing." After happy people without pensions and purely voluntary vaccination, it is already difficult to believe anything.
    I started reading records of the military DPR in Vkontakte, only then I realized that people were dying there every day.
  30. 0
    16 September 2022 13: 14
    You launch their LDNR, they will arrange genocide there.
  31. 0
    16 September 2022 16: 52
    Yes, they have already staged a genocide in the Belgorod region.
    In a small town, 8 (eight) houses were razed to the ground.
    Expressed collective concern, and in no case do we touch Bendor's TsPR. What if Western partners condemn.

    https://t.me/operativsvo/9482
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  33. 0
    18 September 2022 10: 57
    But in the "liberated" territories they hung copies of the "victory" flags. Did they manage to remove the flags or did the Nazis desecrate the shrines?
  34. -1
    18 September 2022 15: 14
    Quote: EvilLion
    The Russian command has very specific restrictions on the resources it can use, and it is not for you to discuss its decisions.


    He himself understood what he said. You do not feel that an excuse for mediocre management.
  35. 0
    18 September 2022 15: 38
    Quote: nikvic46
    We must learn to influence the world around us in peacetime.


    Gold words.....