Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Danilov announced Ukraine's plans to achieve the surrender of Russia

The offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kharkiv region and the abandonment of several settlements by the Russian army turned the heads of the representatives of the Zelensky regime, who imagined themselves to be unsurpassed strategists. Now Kyiv plans to conquer the territory of Russia and the complete capitulation of Moscow.

Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Danilov, clearly out of touch with reality, said that Ukraine would not be satisfied with a victory in this war, a return to the borders of 1991, i.e. "return" of the Donbass and Crimea, as well as the payment of "huge reparations" by Russia. In Kyiv, they intend to break up Russia into many small states, having previously demilitarized, i.e. depriving weapons. Apparently, after the successes in the Kharkov direction, in Kyiv they decided that victory was in their pocket, and the Russian army would run all the way to Moscow.

Our task is to make Russia such that she does not even have the desire to think that she can attack her neighbors, especially in the way she did in relation to our country

- he said.

According to Danilov, the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that has begun will now stop only where it will be beneficial for Kyiv, i.e. Zelensky does not intend to stop at the "liberation" of only Ukrainian territory. And he is allowed to say this by a sense of impunity, due to the help of Western countries, primarily the United States. It is because of Biden's back that the President of Ukraine can threaten, knowing that Western sponsors will protect him.

It is worth noting that Danilov's statement, however wild it may seem, is not a one-off. Recently, statements of this kind have been heard more and more often in Kyiv, the Zelensky regime has felt invulnerable and capable of defeating Russia. Therefore, we need to neutralize not only such statements of representatives of Kyiv, but even thoughts. It is necessary to remind Zelensky and his masters that Russia was, is and will continue to exist, and what happened in the Kharkiv region is nothing more than one episode of a big war that we will certainly win.

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[white fall]

This is of course surreal, but I don’t even know where storytellers are funnier

[Lech from Android.]

The toothless policy of the Kremlin just turned the heads of the Ukronazis ... the local victory and support of the West convinced them that they could dictate their terms to the Kremlin.
This will continue until the Kremlin begins to look more realistically at the essence of the Nazi regime in Kyiv and does not flirt with him in stupid negotiations and gestures of goodwill.
I must say that such contradictions will grow ... and, in the words of Vladimir Lenin, will inevitably lead to an internal crisis ... and if the Kremlin does not change its behavior, it will happen.

[antivirus]

Danilov has already earned the Hell Sakharov Prize.
For the promotion of democracy.
Will we have a revision of the results of democratization and glasnost?
Solganicin and sugars, the Helsinki group?
And as a result, we reject Western influence on Russia?
Or "we continue to maneuver between totalitarianism and violations of human rights?". According to the civilized west

[invisible_man]

As a lawyer, I ask you to leave human rights alone. By the way, you might find it useful too.

[military_cat]

Quote: Lech from Android.

This will continue until the Kremlin begins to look more realistically at the essence of the Nazi regime in Kyiv and does not flirt with him in stupid negotiations and gestures of goodwill.

Only cognitively disabled people continue to believe that the situation develops as it develops because the Kremlin does not want to, and not because the Kremlin cannot. (Including cannot start mobilization.)

[Ivan Ivanov]

I wonder what is stopping the Kremlin and what was he thinking when he announced an ultimatum to the West?

[military_cat]

If this is not a rhetorical question, then it is quite understandable what they were thinking.

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1. The Russian army in Ukraine will be greeted with flowers
2. The only ones who will be against are the regiments of the nationalists
3. The Ukrainian army is incapacitated and will run as soon as it sees the enemy
4. Zelensky is a clown

And what prevents them is that the moment for mobilization has already been lost.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Was there no plan B?

[military_cat]

[antivirus]

I'm talking about the Western version of "human rights",
for the natives.
What about human values?

[ratcatcher]

"Danilov has already earned the Hell Sakharov Prize."
Well said

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Lech from Android.

. and, in the words of Vladimir Lenin, they will inevitably lead to an internal crisis ... and if the Kremlin does not change its behavior, it will happen.

This is already happening. Trust in the people who lead the army and the state has been undermined. Irritation sets in from the slobbering politics, Step forward two steps back - "V.I. Lenin (1904) (CRISIS IN OUR PARTY)" All these gestures of no goodwill, grain and other agreements do not honor our leadership ... Very much not doing honor...

[saigon]

Whatever you say, but for ratings and other things, you need to take revenge and take revenge cruelly.
Everything else is no longer good. This new way, well, there is no infantry to work on the rear with missiles and other things, and firing at all sorts of krakens and other crap doesn’t roll.
We need strikes wherever there are on the infrastructure that is critical for the enemy, and not on the already mythological decision-making points.

[Old sergeant]

So Kadyrov said that he does not honor our government by not reporting the true state of affairs in the Izyum direction.
He would have said more harshly, but ... and so everyone understood.

[Plate]

Quote: 30 vis

Annoyance comes from slobbery politics

So in our country, even with the coronavirus, some drooling began instead of specific decisions. Neither here nor there
You can not do vaccinations, we will not force you, so as not to make unpopular decisions, but we advise you to do it anyway. There is a coronavirus, but not seriously, so we can continue to sit quietly in our offices. It’s better to stay at home, but you don’t have to sit, so that we don’t have to follow you. We must wear masks, but we can do without them, since we will not organize strict control. And so on. And now we see the same thing in Ukraine.
Seriously, even during quarantines, the following thoughts arose. There is a power of a democratic nature, and there is an authoritarian one. The former are good because can not make unpopular decisions when they Not needed. The second one is good because can make unpopular decisions when they Need. And it turns out in our country that there are only drawbacks from the autocratic nature of power: the ability to make unpopular decisions when they Not needed. However, when they Need, our government, like a democratic one, hides its head in the sand. Well, how are you supposed to understand it?

[notingem]

Keep it short and not too clever Helps

[Plate]

Quote: notingem

Write short and not very abstruse

To do this, you need to be a little smarter than me.

[Quote Lavrov]

Agree, it's already 7 months behind ... as Einstein said about the definition of stupidity - this is doing the same thing and expecting a different result.
Well, why would the very same classmates in power, friends - oligarchs suddenly start doing something worthwhile? Well, it won't be like that. Maximum - external, cosmetic changes. And seeing how the GDP opens the Ferris wheel on the days of such battles, seeing what the authorities are doing with these elections, it seems that the system and personalities themselves will not change in terms of strength. This is just the effect of homeostasis - the reproduction of the system itself. So will the Volodins with their 80+ year old mother - a billionaire, the Solovyov weathercocks (does anyone remember how he broadcast Gusinsky on NTV?) and other personalities to teach us love for the Motherland, which of us is good, who is bad, who thinks right, and who is the enemy of the people. And when it gets difficult, they immediately start songs about how we should be one with them and that there is no need to rock the boat, keeping silent about the fact that we are sitting in the boat, and they fly past on a yacht, spitting on the boat from above.
And not remembering the story told back to Emperor Alexander 3 that it is possible to plug holes in a boiler with boiling gases only for the time being, for the time being.

[Ivan Ivanov]

It is important to understand why the Kremlin fit into history? Based on a happy coincidence?

[Quote Lavrov]

It's just the simplest thing. In their parallel universe, they are great strategists, great economists and fathers of the nation. Conventionally, they saw in themselves who is Peter 1, who is Stolypin, who is Zhukov or Trotsky, who is the Queen .... but it turned out that in reality - "the king (this is not a hint at someone alone, this is a generalization) then - naked! ". In fact, it turned out that all they can do is shift money from the sale of resources into their pockets, make loud statements with a minimum of actions, pull friends, lovers, mistresses, relatives to the top, destroy selectivity at all levels, trying to create for themselves a safe and guaranteed future.
Now it has simply become clearer that they are not thinking about the country or the people. And about yourself loved ones and only.
Yes, and we "blundered" far from now - but all the past 30 years, when, having really native peoples, we failed our foreign policy step by step, diluting the peoples further and further. When they bet on the oligarchs tuned in to us, and not on the peoples, when they were silent about neo-Nazism, having influence on Ukraine, they recognized their elections, did not recognize the LDNR for 8 years, etc.

[lis-ik]

About Solovyov's weather vane, I have repeatedly written here, he not only on NTV, but also on Rain for a long time broadcast, in general, that is still a skin. And as for power, miracles did not happen, and where can they come from, when raw materials and raw material oligarchs are at the forefront, who dictate real politics. Probably these creatures do not agree to a price ceiling and will now hand over everything they can, and Putin is their protege and guarantor.

[Evil 55]

The attitude of the authorities towards the NVO and the dying soldiers was great shown by the salute in Moscow during the shameful retreat, correlated with flight ..

[Quote Lavrov]

Until recently, I was sure that they would cancel ... and then I went out to smoke on the balcony and almost threw up .... the guys are fighting with all their might, and here is a feast during the plague - just to show that "everything is going according to plan" and to drag in these elections of their deputies by hook or by crook, if only the voter is not nervous and does not think about whom questions should be asked.

[chetvertak]

This is the Kharkov cauldron of 1942! But it was repeated 80 years later, already under Putin’s power. So for 5 years, the authorities started up fakes about our 70-80% modernization in the troops. In fact, it turned out that everyone was doing business with affiliated structures in the defense industry. The "genius" of the GDP and its erected artificial cult became at the level of Stalin or Lenin, turned out to be a fiction arranged by the AP of the GDP and corrupt talk shows for growth, earning monthly up to a million a month. Long-term articles on the Internet about GDP, and its
aphorisms, they repeated only as if to order. And a few days before the Kharkov boiler, ours wanted to carry on negotiations with the Kyiv junta. And you just need to open the documents on the Central Committee of the Rostov on Ukrainization 1917-33. But the State Duma hid all this in order to give out their knowledge for the people in pseudoscience in political science, and sycophancy in front of GDP.

[paul3390]

it is more realistic to look at the essence of the Nazi regime in Kyiv and not to flirt with him in stupid negotiations and gestures of goodwill.

Not only, and not even so much in Kyiv... Dear Western partners, we must finally begin to really squash. I'm already silent about my own liberals ..

[Ivan Ivanov]

A few more such "regroupings" and they will achieve their goal. 50 thousand troops who took part in the Far Eastern exercises would come in very handy in the Izyum direction. Even Kadyrov said that he would talk with his superiors about changing the format of the operation. The question is different - has the authorities really lost their nose so much that they do not see the seriousness of the situation. Khodakovsky's recent post should, to put it mildly, be alarming.

[yuriy55]

Quote: Lech from Android.

The toothless policy of the Kremlin just turned the heads of the Ukronazis

You can say so, but, most likely, such a policy has a different name - the policy of unappreciated forgiveness.
You can not pay the bills with the unavenged lives of Russians and civilians. Human resources are not iron, although, in terms of stamina, people are stronger than steel. We must give them a low bow for patience and courage.
The Kremlin must be fully aware that it is impossible to hide behind lies and various reasons. War - and there is a war, without any restrictions and verbiage.
it's not happening in America or Australia. It is happening here and before our eyes. This is our country and we have every right to ensure peace in it FOR ALL by any means.

[North Caucasus]

They began to pull out their own teeth even under Gorbachev. In addition to him, there were enough fighters for peace and peaceful coexistence. The same Sakharov. Misha, of course, generally began to wave contracts on deprivation of teeth like a sewing machine. Tsar Boris also really wanted to be friends with the bourgeoisie. After the appointment of the GDP, there was no confrontation. Under Serdyukov, the army was even heavily reduced. Why? Aspired to become a purely regional country without Imperial ambitions? What for? To be loved in the West? Well, Gorbachev surrendered the country. After all, they did not love us after his betrayal! Why did you have to undress? After all, after the surrender of the country, the humiliation only intensified. It has already reached the Olympics. And take Israel. Small country. What are the sanctions against Israel? The toothless policy of the Kremlin turned the head of the entire bourgeois international. Although the bourgeois themselves say something about the policy of tolerance, tolerance, democracy. And in fact? Cultivate radical movements! And where is the tolerance? Russia has long had capitalism. But this capitalism for the bourgeois international turns out to be the wrong system! For their system, they fit the system of the outskirts. This is the true system of the West! They help this system with all zones of their occupation. And Lyokha is right. Russia needs to change the system! Both military and political. We need to move away from capitalism. He is highly inefficient. The army after Serdyukov's reforms is probably too small for the territory of Russia. If we do not have enough troops in the Ukrainian direction! And if the Old Man was demolished? Or did the events in Kazakhstan follow the Maidan type? Could you fight on three fronts? No money for the army? And why was there money for yachts and mansions? Are modern weapons expensive? But the oligarchs found loot for their expensive toys. Nobody was greedy for them. Did you donate to the army? And again, the arguments are not in favor of capitalism. So Lyokha is a thousand times right!

[g1v2]

Daily missile strikes on the cities of Saloreikha - is this really a toothless policy? It was clear back in 92 that Ukraine would become our enemy and that we would have to fight with it. And it doesn't matter what kind of regime it is - Nazi or hamster. The adoption of the Nazi ideology by the Saloreich was precisely because they needed the most anti-Russian and anti-Russian ideology. As long as Ukraine exists, we will periodically fight with it. The war has switched to the Syrian rails, and therefore the number 1 task is to milk the Saloreikh militarily. For the most part, we have already taken out the military-industrial complex, although it would be nice to go through these enterprises again with a fine-toothed comb. And weapons and equipment must be destroyed faster than they are supplied. They are not delivering it very actively now, because they could have delivered it quickly, basically they have already delivered it, so the problem is being solved.
Well, the primary task now, of course, is to increase the SV and Airborne Forces by the announced 137 thousand military personnel. And on long-term contracts. There are clearly not enough available forces to control such territory and a constant offensive. Taking into account rotations and short contracts ending with HP, which does not allow to increase the grouping.

[Ivan Ivanov]

How, despite the daily blows, did the saloreich create a percussion fist? What about punch efficiency?

[4ekist]

Lech from Android. The toothless policy of the Kremlin just turned the heads of the Ukronazis ... the local victory and support of the West convinced them that they could dictate their terms

Let them speak out, and for now we will listen to what ideas they have in their heads. As for this gopnik Danilov, I'm sure he will end badly.

[white fall]

It seems to me that our military is already at the limit in this matter and will be less and less tolerant and sooner or later they will start to extinguish the Ukrainians in trash and also stupid slaps from the General Staff

[Cap.nemo58rus]

Alexey, yes and yes again! You are absolutely right.

[Beloemigrant]

liberasty i komunisty krizys podgotowlajut potom pogryzatsja i grazdanskuju 2 0 nacnut etogo USA hocet dobitsa

[Cottodraton]

... and then everything that the "Eurobolsheviks" demand about "the collapse of the Russian Federation into a bunch of controlled G will come true ... And who will benefit from this?

[Carlos Hall]

Please pay attention to one thing. Ukraine does not have a voice of its own, and the United States speaks through it. Therefore, I would not laugh at Danilov's statements. The Russian Federation could end up split like the Soviet Union if they don't once and for all start waging war in earnest, destroying those who oppose it waging war with the necessary intensity and appropriate logic.

[gansales]

Quote from Carlos Sala

Please pay attention to one thing. Ukraine does not have a voice of its own, and the United States speaks through it. Therefore, I would not laugh at Danilov's statements. The Russian Federation could end up split like the Soviet Union if they don't once and for all start waging war in earnest, destroying those who oppose it waging war with the necessary intensity and appropriate logic.

Our Dimon should soon answer him via telegram .. Let them communicate ..
And our work continues .. Wet Natsiks !!!
And other moneylenders of the world, teeth sharpening with anger

[Xnumx vis]

Quote from gansales

And other moneylenders of the world, teeth sharpening with anger

And what can you say about the strange type of Abramovich?

[gansales]

Quote: 30 vis

Quote from gansales

And other moneylenders of the world, teeth sharpening with anger

And what can you say about the strange type of Abramovich?

Well, a cunning Jew, the head of Chukotka and the wallet of the EBN family ..
They released him quietly, having bought the oil industry from him .. He sued Berezovsky (the judge was not imprisoned))))) And Berezovsky hanged himself out of anger, dreaming of birch trees in Russia, etc.
A silent Jew who understands what he is and who he is .. And to whom he is obliged .. Is that something like that?
Here Hodor is talkative and prepared Russia for surrender!
Missed my mom so much hehe
Well, the rest grabbed and fled .. Smolensky grandchildren bring up shoes for Russia with his agricultural bank for a dozen lard ..
Well, you can write books about other such people .. And I read their tearful memoirs hehe
PS But the world moneylenders, this is a separate conversation

[Carlos Hall]

The Russian front collapsed in Khakhov, A certain Palyuga, commissioned by the CIA, is making moves towards a coup d'état. What are they going to do? Are you going to continue the current strategy? Do you know what Stalin would have done in this situation? I would have already shot this Palyuga and the general responsible for the collapse of the front, whether he is guilty or not. Enough nonsense. Declare a general mobilization and immediately arrest Palyuga. Who rules in Russia now?

[AVESSALOM]

Palyuga is a Ukrainian surname.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: AVESSALOM

Palyuga is a Ukrainian surname.

I also have a Ukrainian surname. And what? Shoot? And Danilov has Russian and what? Kadyrov has Chechen and what?

[AVESSALOM]

If guilty, shoot.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: AVESSALOM

If guilty, shoot.

Well, thank you, kind person ... You shouldn’t let such people “shoot” near people at all ... they will kill everyone .. Right and guilty ... fast, hot cools quickly ... Diarrhea ..

[AVESSALOM]

Then, according to your logic, understand and forgive.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: AVESSALOM

Then, according to your logic, understand and forgive.

According to my logic, understand the situation. Punish the guilty.

[vovochkarzhevsky]

We have 1 officials, more than half can be called up and the economy will only benefit from this.

[Carlos Hall]

Keep talking nonsense. If disaster strikes, the blame will be collective. Some are for opposing general mobilization, others for not dictating it.

[vovochkarzhevsky]

What are you so worried about officials? They are our special, civil servants. They have salaries and pensions unlike the service people. Or are you one of them?
As for the general mobilization, the agenda will come, I will not evade. Only she will not come, for the current authorities it is akin to a death sentence.

[Normal ok]

Quote: vovochkarzhevsky

What are you so worried about officials? They are our special, civil servants. They have salaries and pensions unlike the service people. Or are you one of them?
As for the general mobilization, the agenda will come, I will not evade. Only she will not come, for the current authorities it is akin to a death sentence.

Why don't you volunteer to join the military? As I did at the end of February.

[vovochkarzhevsky]

What about the meaning? To be sent back? VUS 061800, extreme type Mi-24.
Alas, there are not enough helicopters in the Russian Federation and active pilots.

[-Paul-]

Stop talking nonsense, civil servants, for the most part, receive a small salary.

[vovochkarzhevsky]

Do not confuse petty clerks and officials. The first have the same relation to the state. service as civilians to the army.

[Cottodraton]

I have a sister, she worked in public procurement as an official of the 3rd rank ... She received as much as 18 thousand rubles ... She is also a thief and should she also be punished?

[vovochkarzhevsky]

In general, in the state service, there are not ranks, but classes. Get started, here's a tutorial for you. https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D1%87%D0 %B8%D0%BD

[Cottodraton]

Maybe the class, I did not go into the details and nuances of the names, because I had nothing to do with this very "state service", unlike my sister. I can not remember the subtleties of the names, because I do not need it. The fact is that the majority of readers for some reason think very stereotypically about officials

[Ed]

West rules

[North Caucasus]

Aha! Wet the Nazis! They themselves created the problem during the Gorbachev era, when they surrendered all their zones of influence, and now we will heroically solve the problem that we ourselves created! The fact that religious radicals encroached on Russia and the latest fashion-Nazism is the fault of Russia! There were no figures of Stalin's caliber in the 80s. In difficult times, strong personalities are born, and well-fed times give birth to sluts like Gorbachev.

[Dilettante grandfather]

The Russian Federation may be split like the Soviet Union,

Only if all-weapons and couch critics continue to do their dirty work, listening to ukrobots and Western opinion.

[Interpreter]

Only if the cheers-idiots don't listen to what's going on and repeat endlessly that everything is fine, beautiful Marquise.

[opuonmed]

withdrawal without a change of regime is no longer possible in Ukraine! and to threaten everyone else with a nuclear strike on their capitals, who helps! (I understand this is an extreme) well, or everyone will wipe their feet! Well, or tell me your point of view on what needs to be done! I'm sofa)

[Ludoman]

Well, or tell me your point of view on what needs to be done!

To mobilize and fight.

[smart ass]

It depends how much ours roll back

[Zulugami]

Quote from Whitefall

This is of course surreal, but I don’t even know where storytellers are funnier

sur you say Ukrainians returned part of the territories in a few days, those who believed in Russia abandoned the inhabitants, what should they do now???

[Uncle lee]

Danilov announced Ukraine's plans to achieve the surrender of Russia

Have you seen a frog's dick?

[antivirus]

But they sing songs in Europe.
For benefits
And we don’t catch frogs in the swamps, for dinner ... For ourselves or for the French

[yuriy55]

Quote from Uncle Lee

Have you seen a frog's dick?

What about an old cockroach?

[Leshak]

Fuck the dill suffered ... That's what gestures of goodwill and regrouping do...

Room number six. Aggravation.

[gansales]

It all started with this..!

Russia missed this moment ..Now the war is on terrible Slavs

[RGB]

You still need to be able to crap so notably in front of the "partners"! Respect to our VPR!

[neworange88]

.Now Kyiv plans to conquer the territory of Russia and the complete capitulation of Moscow.


Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Danilov, clearly out of touch with reality, said that Ukraine would not be satisfied with a victory in this war, a return to the borders of 1991, i.e. "return" of the Donbass and Crimea, as well as the payment of "huge reparations" by Russia. In Kyiv, they intend to break up Russia into many small states, having previously demilitarized, i.e. deprived of weapons.

The disease has an autumn exacerbation.

[Nexcom]

in all mentally ill people, the roof is torn in spring and autumn. well known.

they need to take pills there, and let them go. not not completely. but it does make it a little easier.

[tralflot1832]

On the bank, zrada or victory?

[Nexcom]

so he poured out the powder to the right person, so they knocked it off right away.

[AlexTires]

It is clear that the Wishlist, but if the Poles are still written in, then no scenarios should be excluded already then ... And it should not be excluded, at least attempts ...

[gansales]

Quote: AlexTires

It is clear that the Wishlist, but if the Poles are still written in, then no scenarios should be excluded already then ... And it should not be excluded, at least attempts ...

The Poles, under the new status given to them by Zelensky, have already filed over 1500 lawsuits for the return of their property in Ukraine ..
Zelensky "cheerful Jew", does everything to grapple the peoples in a stranglehold .. And he will dump himself in Israel!

[zloybond]

Someone from the outskirts of Russia with a Russian surname says that the Russians have come??????? - original

[ammunition]

Quote: zloybond

Someone from the outskirts of Russia with a Russian surname

In the Armed Forces of Ukraine, almost every third person has a Russian surname (Russian). Among officials in Ukraine in bulk with Russian surnames.
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And they say that in Ukraine "Nazism" is supposedly .. on hatred of the Russians. Weird -))))

[Valentin Nikolsky]

Vyrus hates Russians and Russian is stronger than any foreigners ... They need to prove their anti-Russianness ...

[ammunition]

Quote: Valentin Nikolsky

Vyrus hates Russians and Russian is stronger than any foreigners ... They need to prove their anti-Russianness ...

In your words, there is a hundred times more Nazism .. than in "Azov".
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Ukraine found itself in the colonial-mental occupation of the USA and the West. Like Russia in the 90s. Only Russia (then) climbed in on its own .. and so it didn’t get out to the end yet .. from the mental occupation of the USA and the West. And Ukraine was pushed there by force.
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And I have a question - Why .. instead of getting rid of mental dependence on the West (and this is a difficult and painful process) .. and the root is in Moscow and Kyiv .and even in the Kremlin and .. what is there instead of the Kremlin in Kyiv?
Why instead of this .. with gluttony kill each other? ..and the carriers of this mental slavery from the US and the West are safe?

[41 REGION]

what happened in the Kharkov region is nothing more than one episode of a big war

While alone, Danilov believes that where one is there and the second.

[TatarinSSSR]

As they say, let's see what this canary sunk closer to the New Year. Surprises are already in the making. Most unpleasant for the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the whole of Ukrostan.

[Sergei V]

and maybe us

[Maxim Shalak]

In the last words before the gallows, he will beg for forgiveness.

[Lara Croft]

Now Kyiv plans to conquer the territory of Russia and the complete capitulation of Moscow.

- the storyteller Bazhov, nervously smokes aside ...

[UAZ 452]

Storyteller? And what would you say a month ago if someone suggested that the Armed Forces of Ukraine would launch an offensive with an advance of tens of kilometers a day, recapturing in a matter of days the territories that our army had consistently occupied for months? Fairy tales? Rave? But here you go!
If you console yourself with mantras about the fact that this cannot be, because it can never be, then a fairy tale can suddenly turn into a reality.

[Nexcom]

Unfortunately, everything is so - a month ago they would have said that the flask was whistling if they had hinted about the onset of dill

[Alexander Seklitsky]

So even roadblocks were removed from the Kharkov direction at the beginning of summer. My second cousin turned over at the Oskol reservoir, at the dacha. There was essentially no army there .. One thing I can’t understand is why they didn’t form fortified areas. They didn’t build shelters and bunkers. There was time. After all, in fact, everything came with light forces

[Lara Croft]

Quote: UAZ 452

Storyteller? And what would you say a month ago if someone suggested that the Armed Forces of Ukraine would launch an offensive

The "Sumers" themselves warned about it from any iron ....
From the point of view of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the offensive is illogical, but necessary for the Anglo-Saxons (attacks on our communications and the transfer of reserves from the Russian Federation, which will be more needed in the future) ....

Fairy tales? Rave? But here you go!

I did not graduate from the Academies, but it seems to me that it is more profitable for us to defeat the 50th group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the flat terrain than in Western Ukraine ....
The offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine now is a gamble comparable to the advance of the Germans under the Ardennes, forces for one throw ...
The Armed Forces of Ukraine are losing the last Soviet-made V and VT, which the empirialists will not be able to replace, they simply do not have such stocks ....
The goal of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (Anglo-Saxons) is to hold the line of defense along the Dnieper, after crossing which the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the RG, "psheks", "lyabuses", Romanians, Turks will enter into action ....
Therefore, until this moment, the Russian Federation must deploy three fronts in the West (North-Western, Western and South-Western), with the introduction of part of its armed forces into the territory of the Republic of Belarus, respectively, while time is on our side, after we crossed the Dnieper, we no longer have time will be .... and there will already be needed fleeting operations (battles) using large forces and means ...

[Comandor777]

Judging by the situation at the front, Danilov has the right to think so.
I'm more interested in the words of our supreme about "everything is going according to plan" and "we haven't even started yet." I would like to ask: was the plan to capitulate without even starting?

[Maxim Shalak]

Hungary. Balaton. Hitler died six months later.

[donavi49]

20 million army has already been raised? Am I missing something? Now they are trying to play a small victorious one. However, the flow of contract soldiers from defeats always decreases. And just in the burden of a positional war, there are not so many who want it, even for 350k.

Ukraine also has a mobile resource, albeit of less quality, but it is enough until the age of 24-25 at this pace.

The United States is planning support for 5 years (this is already a new / modernized issue from the factories, there are even training programs for sergeant-lieutenants and long-term VUS in the western materiel).

And yes, Balaton is a bad example. Again, only tanks and only visually intact 14 B3 and 2 B.

And now fresh from Izyum, the valiant Kantemirovskaya division loaded another 12 T-80BV / U - you can see the shortage of fuel and did not dare to take them into the breakthrough.

The result to the battalion of tanks in the pros. Such a good lendlease.

And yes, I repeat, the Makhnovshchina of the spring was eradicated very harshly. Now trophy teams collect everything literally in 2-3 days.

After that comes the assessment-repair/parsing and further transfer. Now the squad that captured the tank receives a bonus, not a vehicle.

[brr1]

Brains are not enough to set fire to the tank

[donavi49]

Material from Izyum is not even Palmyra.

[poquello]

Quote: donavi49

material from raisin

and ran out of dill flags? ), after the Crimean repair base was passed off as trophies, there is no trust in you

[Grits]

Quote: brr1

Brains are not enough to set fire to the tank

Or maybe there is not enough skill and will to fight on this tank? 12 abandoned tanks!!! yes, with such force you can fight on the defensive for several days. And we are told that the aspect ratio is 1 to 10 and we have nothing to fight with. All lies. it turns out there was something. But they threw everything and drapanuli.

[Repellent]

Quote: Gritsa

12 abandoned tanks!!!

Before shouting loudly and resentfully, I would take an interest - are all these tanks serviceable and combat ready ... maybe they were going to send them to the rembat

Quote: Gritsa

yes, with such force you can fight on the defensive for several days

Tank company? Several days? The flag is in your ... okay, in your hands for now

[UAZ 452]

Have our tankers learned how to fight on vehicles with depleted ammunition? Then why is everyone so afraid of the environment?

[GNM]

On Ukrainian resources, they spread a video with allegedly abandoned Russian equipment, which went to the trophies of the Armed Forces of Ukraine as a “goodwill gesture” in the Kharkiv direction.
For some reason, no one is embarrassed that this is all being filmed by a woman who speaks Russian, who is riding a moped along the road in the alleged war zone. What does the name of the settlement Novostepnoe in the Crimea sound like?
And that in the frame there is a mixed Ukrainian (captured) equipment and Russian.
The video, most likely, depicts a repair base or a sump of faulty equipment in the Crimea.
UPD: We are talking about the village of Maiskoye.
https://t.me/topwar_official/56901

[donavi49]

This is another video from yesterday at the art base in Dzhankoy. Right there, the APU officers go and take pictures. Here on the Kantemirov tank.

Here they are examining a disguised bekha - well, etc.

[GNM]

On the cart, I saw how our fighter threw an abandoned Ukropov tank into the hatch and managed to escape before the detonation of the BC. It is a pity that they did not do the same with ours during the departure, for which there could be many good reasons.

[AlexTires]

Now the realities are completely different ... And I personally would not draw parallels

[isv000]

Quote: Comandor777

I'm more interested in the words of our supreme about "everything is going according to plan" and "we haven't even started yet."

I would ask differently - how many guys lay down so that the General Staff would carry out their cunning plan to withdraw troops to the Donbass ?! How many supplies thrown?! How many people will be massacred in the abandoned territories?! How many people will recoil from us in the liberated lands?! Where are the massive strikes against warehouses and places of accumulation? Such that in one minute, hundreds of addressees would receive parcels for banderlogs?!!! Who will answer and when will we, after all, start fighting with all types of weapons, and not with the mass heroism of the Russian soldier?!!!

[brr1]

Now the question is, according to whose pancake plan??

[vovochkarzhevsky]

There is no time for our commander-in-chief to deal with such trifles, where there is more important things to do, to launch the same Ferris wheel.

[Snail N9]

Most likely, everything is much simpler - in fact, no one was preparing for prolonged hostilities. High-precision weapons were stored for a maximum of a month of intensive use. Now he is missing. And there is nothing to say about guidance and target designation systems in order to deliver timely strikes on enemy control centers - there were not enough of them from the very beginning. So, you know, it won't get any better. It will only get worse. If the Ukrainians started talking about what the West has been wanting for so long - about the demilitarization of Russia, this already says a lot.

[Grits]

Quote: Comandor777

Judging by the situation at the front, Danilov has the right to think so.

And it is not surprising that the successes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine turned Danilov's head. There is something to get excited about - Ukrainian soldiers are persecuting Russian soldiers like small children. no matter how these regroupings are called - but in reality this is a flight. Escape from encirclement and from complete destruction. And if we do not want to recognize this fact, then in Ukraine this fact was recognized. And how it turned the heads of all the other inhabitants of the "square" - it's scary to think.
If, after we left Kyiv, Sumy, Chernigov, some adequate Ukrainians understood that these territories were simply returned to them for free, now they see that in three days they returned the territories by force of arms. To be honest, competently and strongly breaking ours. Therefore, such thoughts are born in my head about the capture of Moscow and the surrender of Russia.
After all, you must admit, at the beginning of the NWO at the VO, almost everyone was judging how many months we would be in Lviv or Warsaw. We, too, were dizzy with the first successes.

[Dikson]

There is no need to speak for everyone here, to whom and what turned them on .. Initially, there were and are people who said that it would be a very difficult bloody war, with a sad outcome in any case - hundreds of thousands of deaths of Slavs, Russian-speaking people, immigrants from one country. That there will be guerrilla warfare, sabotage, terrorist attacks, sabotage and betrayal .. That there will be increasing support from the West and ignoring unfounded threats and unfulfillable promises from Russia ... The notorious "ultimatums", endless "red lines" and conversations that made NATO laugh by no one .. A wave of unsuccessful decisions and orders from incompetent leaders ... And only stubborn "uryakls", armed with "Khibiny", "Iskander" and "Daggers" with electronic warfare, tirelessly repeated slogans like "do not make laugh", "one left" and other nonsense..

[was-witek]

It is necessary to officially declare that any Ukrainian military formations located abroad, regardless of the host country, will be destroyed by the RF Armed Forces, as they represent legitimate targets during the conduct of the JMD.

[Mikle19999]

It is possible to declare it. And it will look about the same, uh, out of touch with reality as described in the article

[Grits]

Quote: was-witek

It is necessary to officially declare that any Ukrainian military formations located abroad, regardless of the host country, will be destroyed by the RF Armed Forces, as they represent legitimate targets during the conduct of the JMD.

Ha! you propose to destroy targets hundreds of kilometers away, although, as it turned out, we cannot destroy the same targets a kilometer away.

[poquello]

Quote: was-witek

It is necessary to officially declare that any Ukrainian military formations located abroad, regardless of the host country, will be destroyed by the RF Armed Forces, as they represent legitimate targets during the conduct of the JMD.

early

[hagrid]

Where have we heard this before? They still don’t stutter about the parade on Red Square?

[Mikle19999]

It is clear that this is a statement to support the spirit of its own population, which will have to endure the terrible hardships of the war and post-war reconstruction on their shoulders. Tens, hundreds of thousands of dead - this trouble will not bypass anyone. People need some kind of hope - so they paint a blissful picture

In fairness, what our talking heads carry plus the opening of Ferris wheels and fireworks these days is no less awe.

[GNM]

And he can say this with a sense of impunity due to the help of Western countries, primarily the United States

[Sergey39]

Donetsk gangster, dreams! (((

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

Danilov announced Ukraine's plans to achieve the surrender of Russia

***
- "This is not your plan, panov, this is marijuana" ...
***

[Ripap]

A couple more of these "regroupings" and they will not require such a thing ..

[Boris Sergeev]

Why shouldn't Danilov say this, when the surrender of the Kharkiv region is very similar to an "agreement". Everything that the RF Armed Forces occupied for several months, the Armed Forces of Ukraine captured swiftly - in 3 days. However, the most interesting thing is that Russia withdrew all the troops from there a week before the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, having in their hands intelligence data on the concentration of Ukrainian reserves. A game of giveaway?

“Anna Dolgareva shares with us the private opinion of a soldier who fought near Izyum.

Here is what he reports:

“Firstly, the Armed Forces of Ukraine were heavily diluted not only with mercenaries, but also with military specialists from Europe. Secondly, there were enough forces for defense, but they began to withdraw already from last weekend. The day before yesterday, in one of the houses for the whole block, I was the only military man left. And his wings were no longer childish, the house was damaged, but not much yet. That is, if last weekend the forces had not been taken away, but engaged in defense, this defeat would have been avoided
Thirdly, I did not observe our aviation, only their drones
And fourthly: the very weak work of our art, and its absence - this work - in the last 4 days.

@news_forfree

[GNM]

the surrender of the Kharkiv region is very similar to the "agreement". Everything that the RF Armed Forces occupied for several months, the Armed Forces of Ukraine captured swiftly - in 3 days. However, the most interesting thing is that Russia withdrew all the troops from there a week before the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, having in their hands intelligence data on the concentration of Ukrainian reserves. A game of giveaway?

I also have this opinion. It seems that our BU has already been divided with the puppeteers, now there is just a "presentation for the audience".

[GeorgeSev85]

Guys, I read Alexei Chadov (actor) here ... how I took it off my tongue.

Aleksey Chadayev - it seems that a political decision was indeed made in advance to withdraw from the CW, it was clear in advance that it was difficult and unpleasant, and no one ignored any "intelligence data", but on the contrary - unlike the Kherson Front, where they stubbornly resisted and survived, it was initially decided give the territory to the attackers, only for the sake of order, poking them from the air with aviation on the march. From here, you don’t have minefields, no equipped positions, no attempts to disrupt enemy logistics, nothing. And in order to stop the inevitable negative, already of a purely political nature, they “blew a positive” with the days of the city, fireworks concerts, elections and so on. That is why there were no stubborn battles and defenses, no encirclement, no defeated units, no columns of prisoners, no destroyed cities, nothing like that.

It hurts and I’m scared not because we left there, although it’s very bad ... I’m scared because we don’tE GIVE TO WIN.

[UAZ 452]

Are you saying that they are trying to get rid of the "suitcase without a handle"? Yes, it's too late - now, if he falls, he will certainly break his leg. And to smithereens.
Even at the very beginning of the SVO, one of the Ukrainian newsmakers (maybe even Danilov too) said that either Ukraine or Russia would cease to exist as a result of this war. Then he was laughed at. Is anyone laughing now?

[sheet]

Quote: GeorgeSev85

Guys, I read Alexei Chadov (actor) here ... how I took it off my tongue.
Alexey Chadaev - it seems, really

How long has Chadaev become an actor Chadov?

[GeorgeSev85]

I beg your pardon, blunted on emotions. It seemed Chad Alexey
Of course Alexey Chadayev
But I'm talking about the text ... in general, it doesn't matter who wrote it, the main thing is the meaning.

[Tiger_Kam]

Question not related to the topic. Of course, I am not aware of the legislation of Ukraine, especially within the framework of today, but from October 1 they are going to ban the departure of girls of military age. So, and Alexandra Zelenskaya (18 years old) will also be called up in case of what?

[Horon]

We need to remind Zelensky and his masters that Russia was, is and will continue to exist

I have already reminded that it remains for the leadership to finally seriously address these issues, well, and decide on the goals, what they want, taking into account the current conditions.

[Quinto]

If this is not just a hangover nonsense, but a real "party line", then this is good, then the forelocks, with the parting words of their owners, simply will not give ours a chance to find another "peace settlement" and will not leave choice and freedom of political maneuvers

[Interpreter]

"ours" do not understand this, and will try to reconcile to the last. What they are doing now.

[opuonmed]

Arthur Paul Massaro is a senior political adviser to the US Helsinki Commission, also known as the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe.

“Russia is weak and miserable”

“Ukraine no longer needs to prove anything, give them atakms, modern tanks and everything they need for a quick and measured victory


that's what they believe! so if the Moscow time wants to do something and show the time has come to show your teeth and beat with all your anger!

[Interpreter]

“Ukraine no longer needs to prove anything, give them atakms, modern tanks and everything they need for a quick and measured victory


that's what they believe!

So it's true, why not believe it.
Ukraine is still far from the best weapons handed over, and not so much.
Who knows such a thing as a Vector - draw a line further.

[isv000]

The tale is a lie, but there is a hint in it ... A lesson for smart (!) Well done!
States are at war with us almost openly, is it true? Fact. They are strangling us with sanctions and all sorts of intrigues. At the same time, they admit that without our uranium, their stations will fail, without titanium - the aircraft industry, etc., etc. The question is: how long will we endure lawlessness and supply them with raw materials?! China refused to supply them with a certain alloy and the production of the F-35 stopped ... How long?!!!

[Normal ok]

And who started this disastrous war?

[isv000]

Quote: Normal ok

And who started this disastrous war?

Would you like to fight near Tula and Voronezh? And I also put on the right chevron ...

[Flanker692]

China did NOT refuse US supplies of "certain alloy"
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/f-35-deliveries-halted-after-chinese-alloy-discovered-in-key-component
Contractor Honeywell voluntarily disclosed information about the production chain during the verification process and it turned out that the cobalt and samarium alloy that Honeywell uses to produce magnets in one of the APU pumps (not the APU but the auxiliary power unit) turned out to be from China. This state of affairs violates the local "import substitution" in connection with which the contractor independently stopped the shipment of 3 (three!) Aircraft until the end of the proceedings. Honeywell has already indicated that it will select another contractor for these alloys. Everything is prosaic, Chinese materials were the cheapest.
PS. Regarding uranium: Rosatom provides a quarter of the supply contracts to the US, if he waves his hand, it will hurt, but not too much. The United States is allocating money this year to increase its own capacities (which also cover about a quarter of the needs).
As for titanium: Boeing uses (I think it doesn't use) the capacities of VSMPO-Avisma, not because it is the only supplier of titanium, but because it was cheaper than competitors. By the way, 80% of titanium ore and concentrates were imported in 2021 for the production of titanium from ... Ukraine: ilmenite concentrate from the Malyshevskoye, Volchanskoye, Irshanskaya groups and rutile concentrate from the Malyshevskoye. Russia is 12,5% ​​of the explored reserves on the planet, but these are low-quality ores with low-profit extraction of titanium from them. Since February, almost everything has been brought from Vietnam. Titanium should not be boasted (the share of titanium production is high, but the share of production of raw materials for it is only 0,04% of the world market. If a real nix starts, this channel will be blocked.

[lis-ik]

As long as we have trepachi and henpecked Westerners in power, such statements are quite reasonable.

[Yuri Turkul]

Nowhere do they lie so much as in fishing, hunting and war.

[Chronos]

It is clear that drunk Danilov is dizzy from success and this is bravado. But this is still bravado. Hopefully this will sober up our leadership. Otherwise, if the Hague continues to go on like this, it will seem like a dream to them - they will be judged by the military field court of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Best case scenario. So there is no other way out than victory, I hope they understand this.

[invisible_man]

The statement is true in both directions. Or even three, four, five, depending on the number of participants in the war.

[cmax]

Hu hu not ho ho. Popular proverb for the country!

[AlexeyAkimov]

Until ours officially admit that we are at war and start fighting like adults, the enemy will have illusions of omnipotence

[fa2998]

In principle, there are enough dreamers in power from all sides. We also wanted to manage it in 3 days. Zelensky was looking for a place in Poland or in the USA.
Well, there are more storytellers in Ukraine. Ours are simply poisoned by "cheers-patriotism", and Ukrainians still take something inside.

[Dmitrii]

Well, of course, he betrayed ... It's one thing to fight on your own territory, where everyone is mobilized, and another on someone else's, where everyone will also be mobilized, only the country is much larger and there are much more people. Or does this alcoholic think that the peoples of the Russian Federation do not care? This means that Ukraine has not collapsed with big problems, but we must. Nothing unites stronger than external aggression.

[Interpreter]

This means that Ukraine has not collapsed with big problems, but we must. Nothing unites stronger than external aggression.

91 years forgotten?
Strongly we rallied against the West? Didn't fall apart?
You are thinking too straight forward.

[Alex D_2]

This is a horror series paid for by the people of Ukraine.

[Adagka]

A couple more such regroupings and we ourselves will be left without pants, judging by the number of photos with abandoned equipment, which the Sumerians post joyfully squealing everywhere.
I would also like to ask Konashenkov, have managers from the General Staff already compensated the treasury for the cost of mediocre state property? But there, in addition to equipment, they also abandoned huge reserves of MTS.

[AVESSALOM]

Dizziness from success? The question is, why is he and others like him still alive and broadcasting from the office, and not even from a deep bunker? the army of the world the territory that this second army, having an advantage in all types of weapons, took three months?

[Ivan_Krasnov]

The Armed Forces of Ukraine have a banal numerical superiority, the soldiers of the Russian Federation are simply thrown with meat. That's why they move so fast. And because of the threat of the environment, you have to retreat. But this is temporary, as time shows, such victories of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are temporary, where their deep failure follows. We are waiting for winter.

[Interpreter]

Because we are not the second army of the world.

[kventinasd]

Meanwhile, the Russian military left the Cossack Lopan in the Kharkiv region
These are the photos of the town administration posted by pro-Ukrainian sources.
Apparently the population there, ours also decided to substitute the Kyiv junta for the genocide.
And in Ugledar.
Tonight, the Ukrainian Armed Forces began to remove their minefields.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Against the backdrop of the celebration of the day of the city (it made sense to send the money spent to the fighters for equipment), the question arises - what is happening? exchange? Loss of teeth? We won’t talk about HPP, it’s not funny already.

[Grits]

Quote: kventinasd

Meanwhile, the Russian military left the Cossack Lopan in the Kharkiv region
These are the photos of the town administration posted by pro-Ukrainian sources.
Apparently the population there, ours also decided to substitute the Kyiv junta for the genocide.

It looks like our leadership decided to add Kharkiv to the Kyiv, Chernihiv and Sumy regions. Safely escaping from there and leaving the population under the knives of Bandera. I won't be surprised. Our government does not care about its people, and even more so about the citizens of a neighboring state. Get ready for Kherson...

[AlexTires]

The entire region will be handed over, do you still not understand what is happening?

[yuriy55]

Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Danilov announced Ukraine's plans to achieve the surrender of Russia

This is exactly the predictable reaction to the appearance and performance of this scoundrel:

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[Ivan_Krasnov]

It can be seen that they again brought a new batch of coke.

[Losyara]

Well, we will continue to play NWO, coffin strength and guys. Ay, upstairs, maybe it's time to "start in earnest"? And, Vladimir Vladimirovich?

[kventinasd]

Ay, upstairs, maybe it's time to "start in earnest"? And, Vladimir Vladimirovich?

[Drotro]

They don't hear us upstairs.
It remains to be hoped that they have their own head on their shoulders.
So far, the visible prospect is precisely that Russia will capitulate. The Russian stone lies, the water does not flow under it, nothing changes. And Ukraine staged a blitzkrieg exemplary in the style of Guderian / Rommel (moreover, the pro-Ukrainian side directly identifies the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Wehrmacht). It is clear that now the situation is different, there are few people, etc. But we're not in kindergarten to make excuses. Here you need to do / change something to win, except for conversations / warnings / ultimatums.
Only from the side of the enemy there is a lot of talk about war crimes. And everything is as always - the vanquished are judged, as after the Second World War.
Maybe the awareness of the danger will betray some stimulus to the determination of our government.
Or they think that they can get away with reparations. It's so sad that it's hard to put into words.
It is easier for Russians - we are used to being driven all the way. I am no stranger to humiliation/injustice.

[Ronrew]

He will not hear you, he has more important things to do - open the Ferris wheel, host parades, communicate with ministers via video link, etc.

[DominickS]

"Seriously" - how is it? Meat waves of conscripts and reservists?

[Adagka]

The Kremlin bots hid all together yesterday, got out today, they got a new training manual - this is not a project, but a planned regrouping. True, there are holes in this training manual, a wagon and a small cart, what one piece of equipment abandoned by dozens is worth, but they don’t care, three rubles must be worked out

[Third district]

Quote: Adagka

The Kremlin bots hid in a crowd yesterday, got out today, they got a new training manual - this is not a project, but a planned regrouping.

And about the abandoned peaceful people who were loyal to us, another training manual. They write that we didn’t really need them with their territories. This is such vile hypocrisy

[Warm Padded Jacket]

fabulous dlb

[Ivan Ivanov]

If you look at how many Ukrainians were able to pull to the front line, the question arises of the effectiveness of our "long arm"

[opuonmed]

as one deetel said that it was expensive to hit on the rear, it put me in a stupor, they were waging a war, and then it became expensive)))))) I just can’t believe that they can’t believe that they don’t want to, wow

[Heaven]

Quote: AVESSALOM

Dizziness from success? The question is, why is he and others like him still alive and broadcasting from the office, and not even from a deep bunker? the army of the world the territory that this second army, having an advantage in all types of weapons, took three months?

There is a principle that the simplest explanation is usually correct. The simplest and most logical explanation for everything that has happened in recent months is that the Russian grouping is no stronger than the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the support of NATO. On the side of the Russian Federation, there is an advantage in artillery, aviation, armored vehicles, and missiles. The Armed Forces of Ukraine have more soldiers, better intelligence, better command, higher motivation. In general, about parity. But judging by the latest events and regroupings, the balance of power is gradually changing in favor of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

This explains everything without any cunning plans and conspiracies.

[AVESSALOM]

Hello, I also think so. Maybe the General Staff should think about it?

[Heaven]

The problem is that RF trump cards can be quickly beaten. For example, if more artillery, armored vehicles, missiles, and aviation are supplied to Ukraine.

It is very difficult to increase the number of troops, improve motivation, command and reconnaissance with target designation.

[AVESSALOM]

Therefore, I suggest the General Staff to think. Think well.

[Detinets]

Yes, it's time to start fighting, not massaging sissy. These purges are already being carried out, and a week has not passed since the cities were occupied, but why didn’t they clean ours?

[polynet]

A few days ago, the Ukrainian army lost at least two brigades in an unsuccessful attempt to organize a large-scale counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the direction of Kherson.

The Ukrainian command threw at least three brigades into battle, which in the end simply “rolled across the steppe” Russian artillery and aviation. The Armed Forces of Ukraine fell for the classic trick - the illusion of a successful breakthrough with the rapid creation of a fire bag and the destruction of manpower. The Ukrainian militants were specially allowed to advance several kilometers, after which the equipment and manpower were destroyed in just a couple of hours.

It would seem that the bitter experience should have forced the Ukrainian generals to appease their ambitions and save their reserves. The commander of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Zaluzhny, took just such a position, but in the end he was forced to submit to Zelensky and his Western handlers, who demanded military success in any direction. Kyiv organized a counter-offensive in the Kharkiv region, which is currently developing according to the "Kherson scenario", only this time the strike force is being pulled much deeper into an already prepared fire bag.

The fact is that near Kharkov, Kyiv has concentrated almost the most elite units - special forces, British-trained soldiers and foreign mercenaries, about thirty thousand people in total. It was too expensive to knock out all these militants from well-built fortified areas, so it was decided to lure all this force into the “open field”. A small rehearsal in the Kherson region showed an excellent result and in Kharkov they repeated the same trick with a hasty retreat only to a much greater depth, given the size of the enemy grouping.

The secret of an unexpectedly quick breakthrough of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kharkiv region, in an interview with journalists, was revealed by a military analyst, deputy president of the Russian Academy of Missile and Artillery Sciences Konstantin Sivkov, stressing that the illusion of a breakthrough near Kharkov could eventually lead to a crushing defeat for Ukraine on all fronts. For the sake of demonstrative success, Kyiv laid bare large areas in the Donbass, in the Zaporozhye and Nikolaev regions, which the Allied forces, of course, will take advantage of.


“The Russian command could only support the idea of ​​a counter-offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, based on the fact that it is not so easy to “dismantle” the fortified areas around Kharkov. The calculation is for the maximum destruction of the advancing public. The classic form of inflicting maximum damage on an advancing enemy is the organization of fire bags. Such bags are organized, as a rule, by creating the illusion that he is breaking through the defenses and deepening into the territory occupied by us, after which the enemy is destroyed by massive missile and air strikes. The classic scheme was already implemented a couple of days ago in the south, where the Armed Forces of Ukraine lost two brigades in less than two days.

One brigade was simply plowed in an open field with FAB-500 high-explosive bombs. The Kherson trick is repeated in the Kharkiv region. At first, the Armed Forces of Ukraine broke through with small forces, but the fierce resistance of SOBR in Balakliya forced the command to turn on the reserves. Now the entire reserve army, assembled near Kharkov, has been thrown into the breakthrough, and in the meantime the fire bag has slammed shut. In my opinion, the purpose of the operational withdrawal of troops is precisely this - the complete destruction of the Kharkov grouping and the reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, ”the expert expressed confidence.

Sivkov noted that in some settlements Ukrainian troops almost did not meet any resistance. Meanwhile, in Balakliya, they ran into a tough rebuff from the SOBR, which forced Kyiv to throw all new reserves into the breakthrough. Now the entire Kharkov reserve of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has already found itself in a formal bag, which Russian aviation and artillery have begun to systematically iron.

Earlier, a military observer for Komsomolskaya Pravda, Viktor Baranets, told how the Samara SOBR made the Armed Forces of Ukraine bitterly regret the attack on Balakleya.

[Detinets]

They are experts, yes, I understand there are no victories without defeats. If we fight in the same way as ours fought before, then we will not see victory. It is necessary that the enemy knows that he will be overtaken by the fate of death wherever he is in Kyiv, Lvov, etc.

[KirKerk]

Oh, to me, these storytellers crap in all directions. As usual, on Monday we should observe a series of resignations, but this will not happen, because the top does not care about its people. They will not surrender the country and wince.

[opuonmed]

complete nonsense !

[AVESSALOM]

Something I don’t see our breakthroughs in the “bare areas”. How is that?

[Third district]

Quote: polinet

Now the entire Kharkov reserve of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is already in the formal bag,

What kind of formal bag is this? That is - as if in a bag, it seems, presumably, that they are about to be, in the very near future.

[1984]

if everything goes on as it goes, then either you will have to use nuclear weapons, or capitulate on the terms of Kyiv (USA) Ukraine is completely supported by the West, there even weapons are not from the warehouses of the countries of the former socialist camp, but from the warehouses of the USA, Britain , Germany, only military aviation is not enough for complete superiority, but they do a good job without it, with such a numerical superiority, what did the GDP say at the beginning of the special operation? that someone there will face consequences that have not yet been in their history? apparently (depending on the behavior of the Kremlin) it will be We ....

[Heaven]

Well, recent events have shown that it is too early to write off a maneuver war. And then a bunch of materials came out, including on VO, that modern weapons made it impossible and the future is positional pushing and falling asleep each other with a bunch of shells.

[astronom1973n]

All talkers like Danilov resemble a cockroach from the work of the same name by Korney Chukovsky. Only Sparrow is not yet found for this cockroach.

[RED_ICE]

A few more months and the Ukrainian army will be well armed with Western weapons and trained by professionals, plus stuffed with mercenaries and PMCs.

[AVESSALOM]

This is a natural result of tightening the NWO

[Osipov9391]

Well, there is nothing funny about it. What is in this language is in the mind of others.
And these others are by no means from Ukraine, they only voice their opinions there.
Confirmation of this is Ukraine's withdrawal from the negotiation process.
They set demands that are already impossible for Russia, such as the surrender of Crimea and Donbass.
In order to return to the territory of 1991.
They no longer want and do not insist on any return to the positions of February 23.02.22, XNUMX.

And why ? But because all Western intelligence and military analysts are poured into Ukraine
real data on the capabilities of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, on the mobilization capabilities and moods of the authorities.
They have already made conclusions for 7 months.

[astra wild2]

"in order to return to the territory of 1991" does not suit them anymore. Signing of the contract in Moscow. Complete disarmament and split of the unified state

[Viktor Sergeev]

I don’t understand one thing, why write about what a mentally ill person blurted out? You will also write about Arestovich or about Zelensky's nonsense.

[Interpreter]

When they blurted out that Ukraine would be completely demilitarized and denazified, many believed it.

[your vsr 66-67]

Therefore, we need to neutralize not only such statements

but also the entire top of the dill!

[Viktor fm]

The Kremlin is relaxing - losses are increasing.

[Dilettante grandfather]

Quote from gansales

It all started with this..!


Russia missed this moment ..Now the war is on terrible Slavs

We will continue to skip the moments where a man should kiss another man. This is not our way.

[Gray Wolf_30]

Somewhere in a corner Hans Christian Anderson is crying, he is not the great storyteller now...

[Alister kroulegg]

This statement is not only from Danilov. Blinken and Stoltenberg and Borrell spoke about this. Judging by Konashenkov’s statements, we are leaving the Kharkov region and trying to take and liberate Slavyansk and announce the achievement of the goals of the Northern Military District.
I agree, let them take full control of the DPR, hold a referendum and hide behind the Yao as a shield, voicing it publicly. This is the maximum that is possible from the current inhabitants of the Kremlin.
It’s very bad that the Chechens have risen to such heights. With the collapse of Russia, the next war will break out in the Caucasus. Why wasn't a special forces training center established in Ryazan?

[Flanker692]

Apparently taking Slavyansk head-on from Seversk and Artemovsk is much easier than from the north from Izyum.

[Interpreter]

There have been conversations about this in the West for a long time, so it’s time to understand that this is not a joke.
They are serious there.

[Collins]

Analen, did you bring them some new type of high-energy coke?

[Gado]

I just don’t understand why this nonsense is being broadcast. Every day someone somewhere declares something and then we have to live with it.

[opuonmed]

This is what the West is trying to achieve, but the Russian Federation has only one way out - turn everything into ruins! Otherwise you won’t be able to sit on 2 chairs!

[Wladimir134]

There are only 2 options. Either there are fools on the General Staff or traitors. The second one is worse. This is written in the blood of our boys and the peaceful people who believed us. Why are lines being laid on the Belgorod highway? Sorry. Great idea. Let our troops continue to play biathlons and remain silent. Shame now all the mongrels will kick

[Third district]

Quote: Peter_Koldunov

Let's see if Soloviev calls him to the program tonight, and what he will say there.

Soloviev may not even begin to talk about the events near Kharkov. He will start talking about the world economy, how soon Europe will freeze and what useless and ridiculous leaders there are. And to cover the Kharkov events he will invite such a courageous and gloomy general. Who will say, stop whining, this was the plan, everything has stabilized, the Ukrainian troops are suffering heavy losses and soon we will go on the offensive, right to the Polish border.

[IVZ]

Any, even the wildest statements, always have at least some background. If we trace the history of US assistance to Ukraine, we can identify a tendency towards a feasible qualitative and quantitative expansion of military assistance, up to direct participation in hostilities. Yes, expansion is happening in small steps, “... let’s try this, what will Putin do? What’s okay? Just one more step.” Etc. And perhaps Ukraine was promised NATO participation in military operations or some other candy.

[Wladimir134]

It feels like it's being drained. The balls were pinched very hard. But the slaves were not told to know about the plans. It’s hard to grow emotions without swearing. Why white gloves? The rest of us are watching the war. After this, the Yaps will start their own in the Kuril Islands looking at these. Great strategists.

[Boris Sergeev]

The Russian Armed Forces leave the Kharkov region completely. Isn’t this a “negotiated deal” yet?
E. Kholmogorov
There is no military sense in withdrawing troops from Cossack Lopan; this is not a front connected with Izyum.

That is, we are talking about a purely political decision: "Kharkiv region is not Russia."

There is no name for this shame and disgrace.

[Evgeny_Sviridenko]

You can laugh, twirl your finger at your temple, puff out your cheeks, and much more you can do. Should we seriously scroll through and analyze the scenario described in the article? Having outlined possible trigger and key points for the implementation of the plans of the “Western partners”? The crisis of the power system of the Russian Federation has long been evident; let’s be honest, the SVO only stopped it for a while, raising (temporarily) the ratings of the authorities. In the 70s, for example, I also think no one would have believed that the USSR would collapse, but nevertheless...

[Eug]

Taking into account the latest events in the Kharkov region, Kyiv’s demands look much more realistic than Moscow achieving the declared goals of a “special military operation”...

[Skif]

The bandy veterinarian suffered a blizzard!

[Knell wardenheart]

It's a small candy, but it's so sweet - a number of people have already had their butts stuck together))

[GRIGORIY76]

I read the comment. Well, laugh, laugh. Here's the reality:
The Ukropithecus army increases in size every day. But for us, at best, it remains unchanged.
Who will control the front line and the availability of reserves? Well, you understand.

[Fedorovich]

He can say whatever he wants. Moreover, he is sure that he will not have to be responsible for the market ...

[GAndr]

Just imagine how what is happening now will invigorate the Nazis? Whatever you say, what is happening now is a disgrace. If it hadn’t been for what happened, the Nazis wouldn’t have had such thoughts.

[Adagka]

As I understand it, the great strategists of the General Staff are now planning to storm Slavyansk head-on? Or are they not going to achieve their goals at all?

[iouris]

Ukraine does not exist, but the fact that it exists and uses used equipment clearly sets itself such a goal. Accordingly, the leadership of the Russian Federation, having gotten involved in a fight, should have set itself an equally ambitious goal. There is no time for maximizing profits here. Therefore, the main thing was to get into a fight.

[dementor873]

I remember Putin flew a bomber to Chechnya to check on our troops there. And now he opens the Ferris wheel and enjoys the fireworks. Yes, but the king...

[agoran]

I want to write something good, but other than unprintable expressions there is nothing.
Well, you can’t fight with white gloves.
They hammer away at the Sumerian fortifications with artillery for more than one day, like in 1 WW, the entry of a pair of SU-24s with 8 ZABs will solve everything in minutes. And the survivors will envy the dead.
Burning napalm can only be removed with the skin...
And if the Sumerians scatter “petals” in peaceful cities, then we can use the entire line of BC.

[Doctor_Klaus]

Funny guys are sitting in Kyiv.

[Wovann]

He is sick, he is delusional, he needs to be treated with electric shock....

[km-21]

Russia will not be able to defeat NATO in Ukraine (and this is exactly the situation) if it continues to avoid escalation. In terms of conventional weapons, Russia is losing to NATO, and in terms of manpower, too. But most of all, Russia is losing in intelligence and control capabilities. Based on the combination of these factors, Russia has virtually no chance of outplaying NATO with conventional weapons. The only way to change the situation in one's favor is either the use of nuclear weapons on NATO territory or a credible threat to use them. And also - the destruction or suppression of American reconnaissance and communications satellites operating in the combat zone. Only the threat of a full-scale nuclear strike can convince NATO to stop supplying weapons to Kyiv. Yes, it's very risky. But we have no other choice.

[km-21]

For the sake of victory, Russia must discard false humanism and adopt the most brutal methods of warfare. First of all, the destruction of the enemy’s rear infrastructure (communications, energy, water supply, sewerage, etc.). If the Iskanders do not have enough accuracy to hit bridges, tunnels, etc., then it is necessary to use more powerful charges. Including tactical nuclear weapons.

Ukraine should freeze this winter. To do this, it is necessary to stop the supply of Russian hydrocarbons and destroy Ukrainian fields and underground gas storage facilities. If conventional Calibers/Iskanders cannot cope with such purposes, then see above. In war, as in war...

And yes, it is necessary to stop the trips of various figures to the capital of Ukraine. Kyiv should become a city no safer than today's Gorlovka or Donetsk.

[Altmann]

This cannot be commented on, it would be funny, but it is very serious. It would be nice to make maps, like the United States did in Iraq.

[astra wild2]

Colleagues, I'm scared! Is it really that sad? In the Reporter, the author shouts: “everything is gone, the plaster is being removed tomorrow” (c) 50% of the comments are the same or similar.
The son is silent: he guards: “Suwalki corridor”, “baby on a business trip”.
She asked our “academician”: before the collapse of the Union, I entered the VPA named after Lenin, he frightened me even more: 3 of the population hates Putin, as soon as the regular units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine appear, 300 who hate Putin take up arms, they correct their actions.
In confirmation, Lenin’s work: “on the defeat of the imperialist war” for the collapse of the Russian Federation
Is that really true?

[Beloemigrant]

Quote: km-21

NATO to stop supplying weapons to Kyiv. Yes, it's very risky. But we have no other choice.

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[Evgen Zharov]

But all you have to do is get at least ONE of our soldiers within 50-100 km of THIS commander’s dugout.....

[former soldier]

Quote: military_cat

If this is not a rhetorical question, then it is quite understandable what they were thinking.

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1. The Russian army in Ukraine will be greeted with flowers
2. The only ones who will be against are the regiments of the nationalists
3. The Ukrainian army is incapacitated and will run as soon as it sees the enemy
4. Zelensky is a clown

And what prevents them is that the moment for mobilization has already been lost.

We were 8 years late in expecting flowers. Although if it had been possible to take Kyiv in March, then the chances of +the outcome of the North Military District with the full scope of its objectives would have been much higher.

[Father of papa carlo]

The entire 95th Quarter will soon go to the 95th region, to the zoo named after Ramzan Akhmatovich Kadyrov!

[tolmachiev51]

There is nothing to be surprised, they themselves gave the reason!!! Too many talkers and “specialists” began to lead our SVO - which was what our military feared most.

[Alexfly]

Get to the Urals first...

[tank64rus]

This is what "gestures of goodwill" led to. In war it should be like in war. everything else only leads to defeat.

[former soldier]

Quote: tolmachiev51

There is nothing to be surprised, they themselves gave the reason!!! Too many talkers and “specialists” began to lead our SVO - which was what our military feared most.

It’s generally embarrassing to talk about TV. One “expert” said: “we can handle it in 5 days,” and another said that “we need to be realistic - in 7 days.” I’m joking badly, of course, but that’s roughly what happened.