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Moral bankruptcy. Whom are the United States and Turkey

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Moral bankruptcy. Whom are the United States and TurkeyA sharp Russophobic statement broke out of the State Department Victoria Nuland. Let me remind you - this is the very “Miss Executioner” who directly called for “tighten the noose” around the neck of Syria and its people, speaking in favor of strengthening the sanctions.

But these words about the loop Mrs. thinks are normal, but Russia is accused of "moral bankruptcy."

The reason for this statement was the incident with the Syrian aircraft, forcibly planted in Ankara. Mrs. Nuland did not like the cargo of the aircraft, which carried completely legitimate electronic radio devices. The Prime Minister of Turkey Erdogan, who has not presented anything to Russia itself, but has rushed to report to the United States in the first place, hastened to share the contents of the cargo with the State Department. And based on his report, Nuland makes his anti-Russian statements.

But even Washington was forced to admit that Russia had not violated any laws. The UN embargo on the supply of Syria to anything does not exist in nature, and the unilateral sanctions imposed by the United States and the European Union apply only to these countries themselves, and Russia did not sign and did not have to comply with this decision.

And since there is no violation of the law, Washington would do well to be silent in a rag, and not to oppose Russia. But you want the same!

Mrs. Nuland got out - if there are no legal grounds to accuse Russia, she dragged the moral side of the matter here. Like, "no responsible state should incite the Assad regime."

But Nuland, talking about morality, is the same thing as if Chikatilo spoke of the commandment “Thou shalt not kill” ...

The United States does not see a moral violation in the actions of Turkey, which barbarously dealt with the passengers and crew of the Syrian airliner, without giving passengers with children forced to wait for the end of the search and permission to depart, even minimal amenities and applying direct violence to the crew members.

Moreover, the United States does not see a moral violation in unilateral sanctions against the people of Syria. They do not see anything immoral in the instigation of the armed "opposition", consisting of outright bandits. But to give at least some support to a surrounded and blocked country that is experiencing incredible difficulties, the United States sees an "amoral".

Maybe they really care so much about "human rights"? But for some reason they are too selectively baked about it. In the same Arab world there are countries such as Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and Bahrain, where no human rights smell and never smell. But these countries are allies of the United States, and therefore, according to their concepts, the people there can suffer without human rights, without a constitution, and without an election - they don’t lose anything from him.

For example, the former CNN correspondent Amber Lyon worked in Bahrain. She managed to fix a lot of violations of the rights of people, facts of reprisals against demonstrators in Bahrain, and she really risked her life. But it all turned out to be unclaimed. The journalist who received the Emmy Awards 3, who worked on the 4 TV channel of the year, was dismissed by the CNS leadership and received threats from officials. Because the truth about what is happening in the country - the US ally is not needed. After all, there is an American base in Bahrain, and therefore the regime of this country can do anything. Information about the suffering of the people of Bahrain is unprofitable.

But the policy of Syria is not acceptable to the States, there is no American base there, and President Bashar Al-Assad refused to be an American puppet. Therefore, it is profitable to trumpet about the “absence of democracy” in Syria, and if there are no facts, they should be invented. What is the information industry and the US, the West and hostile to Syria, but the allied US Arab countries.

Encouraged by America, Erdogan also made a statement that is directed against Russia. And not only Russia, but also China and the UN Security Council as a whole. He proposed to reform the Security Council, calling it "an unequal and dishonest system, not expressing the views of most countries."

Of course, in the proposal itself to reform Sobvoz, it would seem, there is nothing wrong. Many progressive figures proposed to reform it, for example, Muammar Gaddafi, who once even tore up the UN Charter, because, according to him, “it gives big countries the opportunity to bomb small countries”. But in what direction does Erdogan’s Security Council reform offer and in what context does it declare it?

Speaking at an international conference in Istanbul, Erdogan said: "If we wait for the decision of one or two permanent members of the UN Security Council, then the future of Syria will be in danger."

What did the newly-minted "Ottoman Pasha" mean? Of course, the veto of Russia and China, imposed on anti-Syrian resolution.

Itching to lord democratisators to bomb another country with democratic bombs. And Russia and China impede this democratic desire. Therefore, the “future of Syria is under threat” - this country will not wait for democratic bombs!

Erdogan offers UN refoms, but in the wrong direction, that everything is fair and equitable, and not about the equality of nations, he is worried. Not for this, he proposes to reform Sobvoz, in order to stop once and for all the shameful practice of military intervention in the internal affairs of other states. But just the opposite - if “democratizers” want to bomb or destroy any sovereign state, then no one would veto power and the ability to obstruct the iron path of the American "democracy".

That is, Erdogan proposes to make such changes to the UN Charter, which would deprive Russia and China of the veto and would strengthen American dictate.
The "democratizers" now have so many great opportunities to render assistance with impunity to the militants fighting against Syria. What they are doing, regardless of any moral principles, and turning a blind eye to the crimes of their "pets" - the militants of the so-called "Syrian free army." And no UN Security Council, unfortunately, is able to prevent them from doing so and stop their unlawful interference in the affairs of an independent state.
Militants, taking advantage of this support, reinforce the terror against the Syrian army and against the country's civilians.

Their victims are often representatives of the most peaceful professions. So, in Aleppo, they opened a real hunt against public service workers. Workers who clean up the garbage are guilty before the militants by the fact that they go to work.

In the Sheikh Maxid district of Aleppo, terrorists opened fire on workers who were cleaning the city from dirt. No, not from the terrorist dirt - this is the business of the military. Peaceful workers cleaned up the usual dirt and garbage, but apparently the militants do not need a clean city - maybe they are hoping to build barricades out of the garbage?

As a result of this attack, the driver of the garbage truck was killed, as well as a passer-by. Several janitors were injured.
But this was not enough for the bandits, and they attacked the janitors who worked on Kadi Askar Square. The worker Muhammad Hyatt perished from their hands.
Such a “revolution”, even directed against the janitors, and we, the naive, believed that revolutions are made in the interests of the common people!
A heinous crime was committed by the “Syrian free army” in the city of Hama. The terrorist group attacked a nursing home, firing it with grenade launchers. Four elderly people were injured, three rooms were destroyed, and a lot of material damage was caused to the building.

In the same city, gunmen shelled Al-Aidin refugee camp. One citizen was killed, two were injured.

In the province of Homs, bandits laid an explosive device on which a service bus was blown up, killing four civil servants and injuring 20.

Terrorists intensified in Damascus. 12 schoolchildren were injured during the terrorist attack in the metropolitan area of ​​Zaplatani. The houses were damaged, the cars were broken.

A mined car exploded near the Ministry of Higher Education. Several people suffered.

In the area of ​​Mezze, a car bomb was also blown up near the Al-Fatah Mosque. Al-Azmin magazine employee Yousef Vannus was seriously injured. Damage to buildings and parked cars.

This bloody crime list is growing every day. I have to write only about some of them, because otherwise no newspaper would be enough ...

But Western countries continue to support this pseudo-revolution, considering it quite moral. Syria is constantly threatened with invasion, and another exacerbation of the situation has become a series of incidents on the Syrian-Turkish border. However, it appears that the shelling of the village of Akchakale, from which the aggravation began on the border between the two countries, was made from weapons sample of NATO. And one of the groups of rebels even claimed responsibility for the shelling, but the Western masters ordered the group to remain silent. In addition, US President Obama re-signed a decree introducing new sanctions against Iran and Syria.

Fortunately, not everyone in the world supports the criminal policy of strangling Syria. One of the true friends of the Syrian Arab Republic who has always spoken in her support is Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, who recently won the presidential election again. Immediately after his victory, he made a statement in support of Syria, saying directly and unequivocally, without diplomatic allegations and half-tones: “If we don’t support the legitimate government of Syria and its president, Bashar Al-Assad, who do we support then? sow death?

The people of Syria can appreciate true friends, and many Syrians rejoiced at the victory of Chavez. On election day, his name could be heard in public transport and coffee shops, and in some buildings there were even portraits of Chavez, alongside portraits of Bashar Al-Assad.

President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko also spoke out in defense of Syria. In an interview with the British newspaper Independent and the Air Force television channel, he sharply spoke out against plans of the West, which "carries its democracy by violent means and writes scripts for overthrowing the leaders of other countries, while supporting with money and weapons of outspoken terrorists."

Solidarity with Syria was expressed by such organizations as the League of Workers of Lebanon, the Communist Party of Slovakia. The Syrian community in Jordan held a rally in support of the motherland.

The Arab-Indian Solidarity Council held a meeting in Delhi, where support was expressed for the leadership, the army and the people of Syria. Chairman of the Council, Professor Bhim Singh, called on the Government of India to be more active in the Non-Aligned Movement to support Syria in a difficult situation. The meeting was attended by the Ambassador of Syria to India, Riyad Abbas, as an honorary guest, who told the truth about what was happening. Council members condemned Turkey for the rude act of air piracy against the Syrian civilian airliner. They also commended the position of Russia and China, who oppose direct interference in the internal affairs of Syria.

A huge demonstration of solidarity with Syria took place in the Lebanese capital Beirut. It was attended by representatives of the Syrian community and the patriotic organizations of Lebanon. Its participants headed to the Russian embassy, ​​where a delegation of demonstrators was received by the Russian ambassador to Lebanon, Alexander Zasypkin, who thanked the protesters. "Thank you, Russia!" - chanting protesters.

The people and the army of Syria continues to resist pro-Western terrorists, and the support of the unconquered country is growing in the world. And we, the citizens of Russia, should also see who our enemies are and who are friends. Who accuses us of the mythical "violation of morality", and who says "Thank you, Russia!".
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  1. Che
    Che 18 October 2012 08: 12
    +32
    +++ Waiting for when we begin to provide assistance to the people of Syria.
    1. YARY
      YARY 18 October 2012 09: 23
      +23
      MILITARY HELP!
      As a country attacked from outside !!!!!
      1. asavchenko59
        asavchenko59 18 October 2012 09: 51
        +14
        I even know the USSR air defense officers who served in Syria and will now serve, if called.
        1. Lesorub
          Lesorub 18 October 2012 10: 27
          -17
          "Shriki" to catch it you are not on the forum bravo post ....
          1. phantom359
            phantom359 18 October 2012 13: 57
            +9
            Lesorub, Wolf afraid - do not go to the forest. Need to break off. and if you break it off well, then any desire to scatter the shriki will disappear. It’s difficult to solve the problem differently now, the NATO people have become insolent from impunity to the region. No concessions, firmly adhere to your position, if necessary, backed up by force.
            1. Lesorub
              Lesorub 18 October 2012 18: 09
              +8
              There is no doubt that, at the first opportunity, it is hard to put NATO in the face with OUR WEAPON through well-trained allies ... otherwise you’ll periodically discredit its capabilities with its gouging, instilling confidence in the Entente in omnipotence ...
          2. Lesorub
            Lesorub 20 October 2012 19: 31
            -2
            as I understand it, minus idiots that they (Shriki) never caught ....
        2. Lucky
          Lucky 18 October 2012 12: 04
          +9
          PMCs urgently need to create and send volunteers there
      2. nycsson
        nycsson 18 October 2012 11: 21
        +1
        Quote: Ardent
        MILITARY HELP!

        I would like to, but ........
        1. YARY
          YARY 18 October 2012 14: 08
          +5
          There is no "but" - there is MO - which unfortunately obeys the mercantile clique in the country.
          In 82, we knew that the country was behind us. And what if they would send someone there that they would smell on uniform? Gazprom? Oil and gas? Alrosa?
          It’s more honest to really create not a army but a big ChVK and direct the merchants according to their interests. But then where does the people and the country come in?
          1. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 20 October 2012 12: 50
            +2
            And they do not need either the country or the people, only resources and nothing else. We are cattle for them, garbage is not necessary. People! it is not necessary to choose EDRO there DRI and on the edge of the komunyak, there at least for the country and ea people are encouraging! And these bitches only in their pockets, during the crisis how many billionaires we have appeared, and all the friends of the Guarantor, it means that friends are rich and he has, according to the declaration, "constipation" of daddy's yes retro "Volga" and a little bit of the salary! I DO NOT BELIEVE! BREAD DOESN'T HAVE CRUBS !!!! It is necessary to check !!!!
          2. Lesorub
            Lesorub 20 October 2012 19: 21
            +1
            bullshit ... MO obeys - Commander, blah! like everything in THIS country ...
            1. Temer
              Temer 22 October 2012 05: 07
              -1
              And the Minister of Defense and Commander-in-chief are traders and thieves.
    2. baltika-18
      baltika-18 18 October 2012 10: 29
      +4
      Quote: Che

      +++ Waiting for when we begin to provide assistance to the people of Syria.

      Let’s be realistic all the same. If we are talking about military assistance, this is unlikely to happen, but the diplomatic and economic ones turn out to be right now. The whole question is intensity. Russia is not the USSR, unfortunately it cannot afford much.
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 18 October 2012 11: 25
        +5
        Quote: baltika-18
        Let's be realistic anyway.

        As a realist, I absolutely agree with you! The passivity of Russia's actions comes from its weakness and its inability to provide worthy support to President Assad! We support Syria at the diplomatic level - this is necessary, but not enough!
        1. Grey68
          Grey68 19 October 2012 23: 24
          0
          As a realist, I absolutely agree with you! The passivity of Russia's actions comes from its weakness and its inability to provide worthy support to President Assad! We support Syria at the diplomatic level - this is necessary, but not enough!

          Blah blah blah so send a couple of your salaries to help the people of Syria.
        2. Lesorub
          Lesorub 20 October 2012 19: 23
          +1
          go to Syria - volunteer! Who's stopping ??
      2. Arkan
        Arkan 18 October 2012 15: 04
        +10
        baltika-18,
        It seems to me that the International Brigades (similar to those that fought in Spain in the 30s) formed from CIS volunteers (and not only) could be a good help to Syria, and would allow Russia to get around formalities ... PMCs are not an option (in including in terms of propaganda).
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 18 October 2012 17: 24
          -1
          Quote: Arkan
          It seems to me that the International Brigades (similar to those that fought in Spain in the 30s) formed from CIS volunteers

          You understand that this is unreal. Spain on the 36th, the USSR stood behind the volunteers, and now who? Russia? For no reason at all.
      3. Che
        Che 19 October 2012 07: 28
        +4
        baltika-18,
        Remember the Caribbean crisis, very similar. How to help is a question. But help is needed.
    3. maxon109
      maxon109 18 October 2012 11: 40
      +8
      I wonder what kind of bad person put the article minus ?? Look into his eyes.
      1. Vanek
        Vanek 18 October 2012 11: 42
        +6
        Quote: maxon109
        Look into his eyes.


        There is no eye there if they do not see the obvious.
      2. Lesorub
        Lesorub 20 October 2012 19: 41
        -3
        well I ... look! each "piz .. yes" will talk about barbarism ... what did the Turks do with the passengers ?? - raped, broke bones, strangled, starved ???
        on a tip from the intelligence services, they landed the board, inspected ..... this is the carelessness of our services that the board's route ran through the airspace of a hostile state! maybe our services provoked the Turks to present the bill "in full" ?? !!
    4. Lucky
      Lucky 18 October 2012 12: 04
      +3
      a couple of complexes S-300 did not hurt to pass them
    5. Krilion
      Krilion 18 October 2012 12: 47
      +6
      Quote: Che
      +++ Waiting for when we begin to provide assistance to the people of Syria.


      you can not wait .... why do you think Turkey is behaving so arrogantly? .. for one simple reason - Erdogan holds Putin "by the balls" in the form of permission to lay the South Stream pipeline in his territorial waters. Without this permission, all Putin's plans to trade in raw materials go down the drain. In principle, Erdogan, at the direction of the State Department or on his own initiative, in order to show his coolness, can at any time withdraw his permission and prohibit the laying of the pipe.


      Therefore, as long as the interests of oil and gas producing companies (and there are practically no other normally working industries in Russia) prevail, one should not expect any decisive action from the Russian leadership. So there will be no help.
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 18 October 2012 13: 24
        -4
        Quote: Krilion
        Therefore, as long as the interests of oil and gas producing companies (and there are practically no other normally working industries in Russia) prevail, one should not expect any decisive action from the Russian leadership. So there will be no help.

        The century of Gazprom is passing! Read here:
        Bankruptcy of the “national treasure”, or For Russia, for Putin, for Gazprom!
        Alexander Karpets 16
        http://warfiles.ru/show-15587-bankrotstvo-nacionalnogo-dostoyaniya-ili-za-rossiy
        u-za-putina-za-gazprom.html
        In the life of the Russian gas monopolist, a black streak began. As previously reported, the European Union has launched an antitrust investigation against Gazprom on suspicion of abuse in the markets of several EU countries and in obstructing competition. But much more serious problems for the “national treasure,” as Gazprom was dubbed in Russia, entail a decline in the corporation’s competitiveness and a steady decline in Europe’s consumption of Russian gas. This causes an increasingly nervous reaction in Russia. It got to the point that a certain pro-Kremlin bribe-teller wrote: the conflict in Syria, they say, was unleashed in order to undermine the position of the "national treasure", and in the winter of 2013-2014, a world war will unleash because of Gazprom! ..
      2. kirieeleyson
        kirieeleyson 18 October 2012 17: 02
        +8
        Quote: Krilion
        you can not wait .... why do you think Turkey is behaving so arrogantly? .. for one simple reason - Erdogan holds Putin "by the balls" in the form of permission to lay the South Stream pipeline in his territorial waters. Without this permission, all Putin's plans to trade in raw materials go down the drain. In principle, Erdogan, at the direction of the State Department or on his own initiative, in order to show his coolness, can at any time withdraw his permission and prohibit the laying of the pipe.

        Krilion, do not agree. There are other levers of pressure on Erdogan, and if everything is left to chance, only by the pipe, the Turks will quickly sit on their cheeks and their legs will be hung up, which, in general, is already happening. If the Prime Minister of Turkey has a position - not to give permission to the Russians to carry out this project, then he will not, because this position comes from Uncle Sam. But shaking his position and tearing him away from NATO with the United States at the head is a different, subtle and slow-moving thing. The question is, who is hunting, who is bait: Turkey or Syria? The Syrians, of course, will not go to the occupation of Turkey, even if they fight. Maximum - limited to defense and retaliation. Turkey, too, will not be able to take the Syrian fortification, this is already evident from the illiterate actions of the military leadership of the Turks, including their short-sighted harsh statements in our direction. As they say, the dog barks, the caravan goes on, so I think that the Russian Federation should systematically introduce economic restrictions, introduce negative multipliers into the trade relations of the Russian Federation and Turkey, limit the quotas for travel during the holiday season for Russians, so as not to simulate the Turkish economy. These steps can make people drive out to the streets, and let him crucify this Erdogan in the streets. In parallel, it is necessary to transport caravans with weapons for Syria under an open international escort. Here, let NATO and the USA howl already, we already know these snakes, we will demonstrate a broad smile through the lips of Churkin in the Security Council.
      3. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 20 October 2012 12: 59
        0
        Putin in gas in shares and in general us all, RUSSIA is bred, If we need Syria, place a FEW "STYLETS" in Cuba and the Yankees will sing differently, Cuba does not mind, but Putin does not need it! He and his clique need money and nothing else!
    6. Lucky
      Lucky 18 October 2012 15: 19
      +1
      We still provide moral support!
    7. Denis
      Denis 18 October 2012 19: 15
      +7
      Che,
      Today on TV they showed the border of Turkey with Syria, journalists dressed in military uniforms and calmly crossed the border through special corridors (holes in the thorn), immediately got into the territory of the mercenaries in Syria, and calmly back. As soon as the Turks learned that the Russians, immediately under the trunks and ordered to leave the ban on shooting .... Erdogan wants to eat fish and ... sit down.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 18 October 2012 23: 39
        +15
        I urge all Russians to refuse to travel to Turkey, boycott Turkish goods and resorts! May the parasites at least not get our money!
    8. FATEMOGAN
      FATEMOGAN 18 October 2012 23: 41
      +12
      "The travel agency Grand Travel Group has suspended the sale of tours to Turkey and the United States in protest over the events of October 11. The company has disabled the search and booking of tours to Turkey and the United States on its website.

      “We urge all Russian travel companies and Internet resources selling tours to Turkey and the United States to follow our example, and also call on Russian citizens to stop traveling to this country and buying Turkish goods and products. We express our protest and dissatisfaction with the actions of the Turkish authorities and announce the suspension of the sale of tours to this country. Until a clear explanation of what happened and an official apology is presented, we have imposed a kind of embargo on the sale of tours to Turkey in our company, "said General Director of Grand Travel Group Alexey Sumenkov."
      even if it’s not direct, but still help to the long-suffering Syrian people, and if we, together, supported him SO, it would be great drinks
      1. s1н7т
        s1н7т 19 October 2012 13: 11
        +6
        In! Real help to Syria - well done! You give up travel to Turkey! Fuck them, not our money!
        1. Director
          Director 23 October 2012 12: 49
          0
          s1n7t + I agree with you in full, I rested in Turkey paid for the death of a Russian soldier in the Caucasus and a Syrian child in Damascus.
      2. Fox
        Fox 20 October 2012 12: 14
        +3
        It’s time for everyone to do this, and not send on board for prostitutes who have drunk to death!
    9. NKVD
      NKVD 19 October 2012 11: 59
      +4
      Americans talk about morality-read and cried ...
      1. Hans grohman
        Hans grohman 19 October 2012 14: 03
        +3
        Hello! I completely agree - the Turks have completely lost their fear (they should somehow return to their place). Give up travel to Turkey? I think this is not enough. It would be great to hold more frequent actions in support of Assad, and to express dissatisfaction with Turkey and other ugly countries. It's time to take on the enemy's techniques and beat the enemy with his own weapon, and this is first of all information (unfortunately, we have not grown up to sanctions, embargoes and other things, but one "veto" even together with the Chinese IMHO is not enough).
    10. PXOENIX
      PXOENIX 20 October 2012 11: 37
      +3
      I support! The country which is holding against the whole democratic world for the second year! What should it be talking about!
      1. Lesorub
        Lesorub 20 October 2012 19: 24
        0
        This suggests that the country is crucified .. the leadership's inability to suppress terrorists
        1. Director
          Director 23 October 2012 12: 57
          +1
          Forgive us how many TENS years terrorists have been crushed, also eating out or difficulties in identifying and destroying (re-educating).
          LESORUB we are all backwardly strong, but finding strength for change is so hard, so cross your fingers for the Syrian people and watch them rise from the ashes and destroy all of America’s liberals. drinks
    11. Lesorub
      Lesorub 20 October 2012 19: 34
      -1
      don’t whistle ura-diarrhea ... have been rendering for a long time, but what's the point? and excuse me, at whose expense is this banquet ??
    12. andrklimanov
      andrklimanov 23 October 2012 19: 50
      0
      Quote: Che
      I look forward to when we begin to assist the people of Syria.

      whom will we send? our boys are 18 years old or are you with a FAST jerk? wink
  2. omsbon
    omsbon 18 October 2012 08: 29
    +7
    Washington impudent, impudent and mongrel amerovskie yapping louder!

    But the possibility of preventing a war in Syria by peaceful means should be used to the full both at the UN and through diplomatic efforts.
    1. alexng
      alexng 19 October 2012 13: 12
      +1
      The title of the article could be slightly corrected: not "moral bankruptcy", but "moral deformity". This is more true.
      And the confirmation said here:
      http://warfiles.ru/show-15734-polnyy-spisok-vseh-voennyh-prestupleniy-soedinenny
      h-shtatov-ameriki.html
  3. Sakhalininsk
    Sakhalininsk 18 October 2012 08: 32
    +15
    A good article, but the opinion of the Syrian people is what least interests the United States and its faithful jackals. In essence, Russia and China are now pursuing a policy of freezing the conflict, which is also not entirely correct. It would be right to give real support to Syria by open supplies of military equipment, military experts and intelligence.
    A piece of the Ottoman Empire called Turkey can be recalled than for a historical perspective for the Turks ended up dancing under brazenly Saxon tambourines.
    1. vel77
      vel77 18 October 2012 08: 56
      +6
      Apparently there is no way to provide real assistance .... but it is also known that there already ours are fighting on the side of Assad. Respect to them and success.
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 18 October 2012 11: 27
        +1
        Quote: vel77
        but it’s also known that there already ours are fighting on the side of Assad.

        If only volunteers .........
    2. neodymium
      neodymium 18 October 2012 10: 53
      +34
      Quote: Sakhalininets
      A stub of the Ottoman Empire called Turkey


      Let the Turks themselves insert herdogan. The Turkish economy with Russian sanctions will be kirdyk. (construction, tourism, Russia-Iran supplies more than half of the gas, etc. etc.)

      Finally, the process has begun:
      MOSCOW, October 17. Tour operator Grand travel group suspended the sale of tours to Turkey and the United States in protest in connection with the events of October 11. The company has disabled on its website search and book tours in the direction of Turkey and the United States.

      "We urge all Russian travel companies and Internet resources selling tours to Turkey and the USA to follow our example, as well as We urge Russian citizens to refuse trips to this country and purchases of Turkish goods and products... We express our protest and dissatisfaction with the actions of the Turkish authorities and announce the suspension of the sale of tours to this country. Until a clear explanation of what happened and an official apology is presented, we have imposed a kind of embargo on the sale of tours to Turkey in our company, "said Alexey Sumenkov, General Director of Grand Travel Group.
      Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2012/10/17/1047485.html
      1. Sakhalininsk
        Sakhalininsk 18 October 2012 11: 11
        +15
        Quote: neodim
        “We urge all Russian travel companies and Internet resources selling tours to Turkey and the United States to follow our example, and we also call on Russian citizens to refuse to travel to this country and buy Turkish goods and products. We express our protest and dissatisfaction with the actions of Turkish authorities and announce the suspension of the sale of tours to this country. Until clear explanations of what happened and an official apology are made, we have imposed a kind of embargo on the sale of tours to Turkey in our company, "said Alexey Sumenkov, General Director of Grand Travel Group.
        Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2012/10/17/1047485.html


        Well what can I say ... RESPECT!
      2. silver_roman
        silver_roman 18 October 2012 11: 22
        +7
        Great idea. with all arms and legs FOR. besides, the matter is not only in the impudent behavior of Turkey .. if we even talk about the tours to Turkey themselves, then the picture changes every year. how many times have I heard read about the barbaric attitude towards Russian tourists. I agree that our behavior does not always behave appropriately, but ALL tourists should not pay for this. then alcohol on methyl alcohol, I remember one couple was beaten and at the same time they beat not only the guy, but also the girl who tried to protect her young man. shorter than fucked up in the region. if our government is still silent, it means that any actions on the part of private business, such as this original embargo, will probably have at least some impact on the situation, unless of course other companies and organizations join it.
        1. neodymium
          neodymium 18 October 2012 11: 33
          +10
          Quote: silver_roman
          perhaps they will have at least some impact on the situation, unless of course other companies and organizations still join it.


          They will prove to be.
          The Turks themselves are not happy with Herdogan:

          "The oppositionists have posted photos in the local press as the militants calmly pass through the Turkish-Syrian border.

          "Several members of the Turkish parliament, dressed in camouflage clothing to look like militants, went the same way and quietly ended up in Syria, in the territory controlled by the opponents of Bashar al-Assad. Then in the same way they returned unhindered... And this is against the backdrop of talks that the Turkish-Syrian border is closed and security measures have been strengthened, "said Servet Mullaoglu, head of the regional branch of the Republican People's Party of Turkey.

          http://www.1tv.ru/news/world/217889
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 18 October 2012 11: 38
            +5
            Turkish troops again shelling the Syrian province of Idleb

            print

            18.10.2012 07:21

            [Turkish troops on the border with the Syrian province of Raqqa]

            Units of the Turkish army on Wednesday, October 17, again opened artillery ogoyen in the Syrian province of Idleb from the Turkish province of Hatay, Reuters reports with reference to local authorities.

            The reason for the next artillery strike was a Syrian artillery shell, which allegedly fell on Turkish territory on the central section of the border in the Idleb province. The shell fell "on the banks of the Orontes River."

            The natural course of the Orontes River forms the Syrian-Turkish border on more than 20 kilometers. One bank is Syrian, the other is Turkish. It is practically impossible to check the fall of the shell "on the bank of the Orontes", since the coast is heavily indented. In addition, the Turkish authorities did not say where the incident took place in the 20-kilometer section of the border.

            Presumably, the Turkish military launched an artillery strike on the area of ​​the village of Salkin, where the so-called "Free Syrian Army" (FSA) and government forces are fighting. Using formal (and perhaps not always real) reasons, the Turkish army provides artillery support to the actions of the FSA militants.
          2. Karish
            Karish 18 October 2012 12: 31
            +5
            Quote: neodim
            The Turks themselves are not happy with Herdogan:

            Erdogan is trying to revive the idea of ​​pan-Turkism. He recalled himself and Turkey as the center of the universe. I hope they will throw it off soon.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 18 October 2012 12: 48
              0
              Quote: Karish
              Erdogan tries to revive the idea of ​​pan-Turkism

              I think, on the contrary, he is trying to become the leader of the Islamic world!
              Quote: Karish
              He recalled himself and Turkey as the center of the universe. I hope they will throw it off soon.

              It seems to me that he is trying to knock out Ataturk's ideas from people!
              While he is doing, what the United States orders him no one will throw him off!
              If the military cannot do this, nobody can do it!
              And the military does not do this for one reason, they don’t see the support of the West and are afraid to damage Turkey!
              1. Karish
                Karish 18 October 2012 13: 02
                +4
                Alibek, hello !!!!
                Quote: Yarbay
                I think, on the contrary, he is trying to become the leader of the Islamic world!

                This absolutely coincides with the idea of ​​pan-Turkism and the revival of the Ottoman Empire, if not within borders, then at least by the force of influence
                Quote: Yarbay
                It seems to me that he is trying to knock out Ataturk's ideas from people!

                It seems to me the same way, he probably forgot that only thanks to his meals Turkey became what it is today.
                Quote: Yarbay
                While he is doing, what the United States orders him no one will throw him off!

                I do not think that the influence of the USA on Erdogan is so strong, but rather on the generals, which so far have great influence on Turkey.
                Quote: Yarbay
                If the military cannot do this, nobody can do it!


                Definitely, therefore, what he is doing now - removes objectionable generals and reassigns his army
                Quote: Yarbay
                And the military does not do this for one reason, they don’t see the support of the West and are afraid to damage Turkey!

                The West once again stepped on its rake. In the early 2000s, the EU put Turkey on the condition of joining the EU - reducing the role of the army in the political life of the country. - As a result, Erdogan received and the likelihood of radical Islamization of Turkey with the emergence of megalomania in Erdogan.
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 18 October 2012 14: 35
                  +1
                  Quote: Karish
                  I don’t think that the influence of the USA on Erdogan is so strong, but rather on the generals, who still have great influence on Turkey

                  Sanya is unlikely to compare with the strength and influence of the military in society Erdogan !! I can’t tell you, that is, somehow compare their capabilities, but it’s simple enough for the military to start moving and Erdogan will raise its paws up! Remember the last resignations when not having managed to take office, the chief of the general staff and almost all the commanders immediately resigned !!
                  It wasn’t easy, it’s a demarche !!
                  They showed their solidarity and, what if, that we can instantly tear you apart !!
                  When I say that the military in Turkey is a special breed, I would say the caste, they have the motherland and Ataturk’s testament in the first place, many do not understand!
                  I am sure that the United States has a great influence on Erdogan and he is doing what the United States needs, otherwise he would have given the military a go-ahead!
                  1. Karish
                    Karish 19 October 2012 07: 52
                    -1
                    Quote: Yarbay
                    When I say that the military in Turkey is a special breed, I would say the caste, they have the motherland and Ataturk’s testament in the first place, many do not understand!

                    Hi Alibek!
                    In this I agree with you and the Turkish military (like a caste) arouse great respect in me. With my patriotism and strategic vision of the country's development prospects

                    Quote: Yarbay
                    I am sure that the United States has a great influence on Erdogan and he is doing what the United States needs, otherwise he would have given the military a go-ahead!

                    Probably in this you are right. As shown by the experience of Egypt, Tunisia, etc. Islamists also love to dress beautifully, expensive cars and apartments. And human weaknesses are easy to control, no matter what mask they hide.
      3. nycsson
        nycsson 18 October 2012 11: 37
        +4
        Quote: neodim
        Finally, the process has begun:

        It is very good! If it is weak for our government to do this, then the people of Russia are gone! I fully support this decision! I hope that other companies will follow this example ..............
      4. wax
        wax 18 October 2012 18: 21
        +8
        Correctly! Politics are not only made by Putin, Lavrov and Churkin. We all do politics. A complete ignore of everything Turkish - and Erdogan kirdyk, even Noland and Obama will not help. And, mind you, without a single shot and without a single deflection.
      5. SenyaYa
        SenyaYa 18 October 2012 22: 41
        -2
        In spite of my grandmother, I don’t need to wear a hat and a sheet of sucks ...))) did I understand correctly?
  4. Норд
    Норд 18 October 2012 08: 34
    +26
    It's high time to make your own list of "friends of the Syrian people."
    The first, of course, I propose to designate Clintons, the second - Nuland, the third - Erdogan, and so on, according to "democratic" (read inhuman) merits.
    I propose throwing a cry on the Internet - REST IN TURKEY IS AMORAL!
    1. Saracen
      Saracen 18 October 2012 09: 55
      +21
      ACCOUNTS IN EUROPE - AMORAL !!!
      SAVINGS IN US AND EU - PROSTITUTION !!!
      1. ATY
        ATY 18 October 2012 10: 56
        +3
        I fully support! This is immoral so immoral.
      2. Karish
        Karish 19 October 2012 07: 56
        +2
        Quote: Saracen
        ACCOUNTS IN EUROPE - AMORAL !!!
        SAVINGS IN US AND EU - PROSTITUTION !!!

        And also all Microsoft products, smartphones, computers and so on, on trifles, percent of 60 products in the Russian market laughing
        1. SSR
          SSR 19 October 2012 14: 16
          +6
          Quote: Karish
          As well as all Microsoft products, smartphones, computers

          '' our computers are never American.
          smartphones if there are purely native American then their full minuscule
          And Microsoft .. so we all have cracked software.. For a long time we have been damaging US companies.
          Quote: Karish
          on trifles percent 60 products

          Americans themselves do not have such a percentage in their market)))
          plyusanul for trying))) hi
          1. Karish
            Karish 19 October 2012 17: 06
            0
            Quote: SSR
            '' our computers are never American.
            smartphones if there are purely native American then their full minuscule
            And Microsoft .. so we all have cracked software ... we have been causing damage to US companies for a long time.

            The presence of factories in China, makes them Chinese?
            Quote: SSR
            Americans themselves do not have such a percentage in their market)))

            Yes, believe me. Products manufactured in China at American enterprises, where does the money go? Think to China laughing
            Give a simple example, a factory bought (built) by a Russian in China and selling products in the same America, where does the money go? Not guessed stay in America.
            An American bought a factory in China, products are sold in Russia, where does the money go? Right back to America.
            This is the truth of life. And all the cheers patriotic cries will not fix the situation
            .
            Quote: SSR
            long time damage to US companies

            Nothing to be proud of. You are not buying, not because of America, but for a completely different reason. And whatever you say, this is theft.I buy all the programs, because I think it is right, you have to pay people for their work and the amenities that they have done for me.
            1. SSR
              SSR 22 October 2012 15: 27
              +1
              Quote: Karish
              And whatever you say, this is theft.

              This is to the point .. manage to rob the whole .. with nothing unsupported candy wrapper from the Fed.
  5. andrei332809
    andrei332809 18 October 2012 08: 48
    +13
    apply unilaterally sanctions against the Saudis, Qatar and others like them in connection with the violation of democratic norms. to lock up all their tank farms in ports, to arrest them in the seas. that’s howling from Europe and America will trample. and they’re unlikely to fight with us, they will limit themselves to rude and obscene words, but we don’t get used to it
    1. Saracen
      Saracen 18 October 2012 09: 52
      +1
      But in more detail, what sanctions do you propose to apply to them, and what do you propose to close their ports?
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 18 October 2012 09: 57
        +4
        Quote: Saracen
        But in more detail what sanctions do you propose to apply to them, and what do you propose to close their ports

        sanctions like Iranian - impose a ban on the sale of oil. and drive the fleets into the oceans, let the ships learn to board ships on tankers. will squeak that it’s piracy, tolerable. that's just the will of the rulers is not enough
        1. Saracen
          Saracen 18 October 2012 10: 35
          +6
          Quote: andrei332809
          sanctions like Iranian - impose a ban on the sale of oil. and drive the fleets into the oceans, let the ships learn to board ships on tankers. will squeak that it’s piracy, tolerable. that's just the will of the rulers is not enough

          So no one will support these sanctions, including China. And the tankers won't even touch them. They are "sacred" for the USA and Europe.
          And this is not why these "leaders" in Russia are appointed to take care of the interests of the state. The interests of their corporations are more important to them.
          1. andrei332809
            andrei332809 18 October 2012 10: 38
            0
            Quote: Saracen
            And this is not why these "leaders" in Russia are appointed to take care of the interests of the state. The interests of their corporations are more important to them.
            this is annoying. and very upset. in pursuit of the dough they forget their homeland






          2. andrei332809
            andrei332809 18 October 2012 10: 43
            +5
            [quote = Saracen] And this is not why these "rulers" in Russia were appointed to take care of the interests of the state. The interests of their corporations are more important to them [/ q
            that is yes. For the sake of the dough they forget about the Motherland. ashamed of the country
          3. nycsson
            nycsson 18 October 2012 11: 32
            +1
            Quote: Saracen
            And this is not why these "leaders" in Russia are appointed to take care of the interests of the state. The interests of their corporations are more important to them.

            I absolutely agree with you! With these "leaders" our tail is tucked in no further!
          4. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 20 October 2012 13: 28
            0
            This is absolutely for sure! While this Jewish junta is in power, there’s nothing to catch the Russians in RUSSIA! Jews need to renounce power! Distant Jewish money bag, Long live the working Russian hands! AND BRAINS !!
        2. Karish
          Karish 19 October 2012 07: 58
          0
          Quote: andrei332809
          sanctions like Iranian - impose a ban on the sale of oil.

          And who will fulfill these sanctions? Russia? Will not buy Saudi oil and Qatar gas?
    2. Chemist
      Chemist 18 October 2012 10: 56
      +6
      Saudis and Qatari people can be spoiled, but these measures must be coupled with the closure of borders in Syria to stop the influx of mercenaries, weapons and dough + maximum pressure from the side of the regular army on bandits. Then there will be hope for order in the country.
      1. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 23 October 2012 17: 42
        0
        In order to implement all these measures, Syria will need to put the entire population under arms from the age of 16, including women, as in Israel. But Syria does not pull it.
    3. nycsson
      nycsson 18 October 2012 11: 29
      +1
      Quote: andrei332809
      apply unilaterally sanctions against the Saudis, Qatar and others like them in connection with the violation of democratic norms. to lock up all their tank farms in ports, to arrest them in the seas.

      All this is from the realm of fantasy, today ........
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 18 October 2012 12: 36
        +2
        Quote: nycsson
        All this is from the realm of fantasy, today

        Unfortunately...
      2. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 20 October 2012 13: 30
        0
        This is not fiction, this is baby talk!
    4. Karish
      Karish 19 October 2012 07: 57
      +1
      Quote: andrei332809
      apply unilaterally sanctions against the Saudis, Qatar and others like them in connection with the violation of democratic norms. to lock up all their tank farms in ports, to arrest them in the seas.

      How ?
    5. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 23 October 2012 17: 32
      0
      If we give them such an excuse and they will fall upon us with all their code, we will not repel them with one ordinary weapon
  6. vel77
    vel77 18 October 2012 08: 54
    +1
    Syrians hold on .... you have no choice yet.
  7. 416sd
    416sd 18 October 2012 08: 54
    -7
    http://www.intelros.ru/readroom/mir-i-politika/m7-2012/15548-skvernye-spektakli-
    rossiyskoy-vneshney-politiki.html
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 October 2012 09: 13
      +4
      Quote: 416sd


      416sd

      Well, why did you give this link? Such experts on the swamp are not measured, the same articles are signed by the State Department
    2. afire
      afire 18 October 2012 10: 22
      +1
      some nonsense
  8. Averias
    Averias 18 October 2012 09: 12
    +3
    This proves once again that the United States is in agony. Against the background of their problems (to which they turn a blind eye and hang noodles for their citizens), against the background of purchases of cartridges and weapons for internal use, against the background of the police, there is no limit to what is going on with them, against the background of total surveillance and disregard of the financial elites on ordinary citizens - they are trying with all their might to plunge the world into chaos. As they say, drowning is not one. Apparently they think that since their economy is crashing, then the rest will not seem a little. It is understandable, only constant searches for "enemies", financial support for "democratic" fighters (bandits in Syria, our opposition, etc.) and hiding behind high words about "democracy" around the world - you can lead your own people (taxpayers) by the nose and milk money from them. The financial elites understand that everything is not going as they planned beautifully, far from so - and so they are engaged in obscurantism. It is understandable, well, as a result, the United States will "bend", but what is it to them (the financial tycoons), there are still a lot of countries and there is time to analyze the mistakes and start your plan again. Although I have always been interested in the question - well, they will ruin humanity, well, they will acquire a single and absolute power - and then what. Infrastructures and other delights of civilization will collapse, or do they expect the rest to be slaves? Is it absurd, or they are so stupid (which I strongly doubt) what they want.
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 20 October 2012 13: 43
      0
      They count on this, for them it is a reality, not an absurdity, in fact, slaves all over the world are already working for this "heap of money" Now, if the Syrians begin to destroy the palaces of the Rockefellers and Morgan with DuPont, and not mercenaries, that would be yes!
  9. asavchenko59
    asavchenko59 18 October 2012 09: 49
    +10
    I propose to fully support the Kurds in Turkey.
    Due to the prostitution of Erdogan, expel the Turkish builders of their Russia (without a billboard, indirect methods, but make it clear)
    1. Lucky
      Lucky 18 October 2012 12: 08
      +3
      Here Kurds support byloby very well !!! make Turkey a little Chechnya
  10. Vodrak
    Vodrak 18 October 2012 09: 59
    +3
    We need to develop the broadcasting of our radio stations to the west. Why is there "Voice of America" ​​broadcasting to the whole world, but not, for example, "Voice of Russia"? Yes, it costs a lot of money, but in the future it will save a huge amount of money on armed conflicts and, in principle, will save hundreds, if not thousands of lives. It is necessary to involve their own Western journalists, sociologists, politicians and public figures to work at such a radio station and in pro-Russian newspapers. After all, this is the same thing that they have been doing here for 20 years. We must beat them with their own weapons. After all, propaganda is a really powerful weapon. I think that many of us were convinced of this from our own experience.
    1. survivor
      survivor 18 October 2012 11: 18
      +3
      and this has already happened. through all the newspapers com and social parties, the USSR calmly carried out its policy. then, it was calmer and more confident.
    2. cucun
      cucun 18 October 2012 11: 46
      +3
      There is a whole TV channel, "Russia Today" and, by the way, is in demand ...
  11. denn
    denn 18 October 2012 10: 02
    +3
    There, in America, are all the women so angry or are they selected to the State Department on the principle of "offended by the whole world"? Clintons seems to be compensating for her complexes associated with her husband and his mistresses. And what about the rest?
  12. Vanek
    Vanek 18 October 2012 10: 27
    0
    United States of America's same moral wassat wassat wassat not get rid of it for a long time.
  13. Lesorub
    Lesorub 18 October 2012 10: 31
    +2
    The rest are also not ebt! emancipation, blah! from that and evil to the whole world .... lol
  14. hohryakov066
    hohryakov066 18 October 2012 10: 35
    +2
    The article is excellent. It is very unfortunate that Russia's reaction to this entire mess is, to put it mildly, very restrained. Although even in the speeches of Lavrov, a well-concealed irritation has recently slipped through. Need action! I understand that because of the policies of the Merkos and other universal people, the world is on the verge of a big showdown, but it’s a shame! I want the country to make at least some kind of move, from which all these hypocrites will simply take their breath away and get out of the balls!
    Elena Gromoioy of course + and good luck! This girl gives odds to many men in the sense of courage!
  15. nycsson
    nycsson 18 October 2012 10: 54
    +6
    "The people and army of Syria continues to resist pro-Western terrorists, and support for the unconquered country is growing in the world. And we, the citizens of Russia, should also be able to see who are our enemies and who are friends. Who accuses us of the mythical" violation of morality "and who speaks "Thank you, Russia!"

    The people of Russia see everything perfectly! Does our government see this ..........
    1. Steering wheel
      Steering wheel 18 October 2012 10: 57
      +1
      Quote: nycsson
      "The people and army of Syria continues to resist pro-Western terrorists,
      God will give and will still be
  16. tambu
    tambu 18 October 2012 10: 58
    0
    This is, of course, everything is correctly written, the article is written correctly ... but what's the use of discussing this if no one tramples on the US? It's easy to quietly hate sitting in a country with a peaceful sky, but we all understand that Syria will end sooner or later ... after all, Russia may be indignant, China may demand, but everything will be over by the time this happens, quickly (a month? ) and it is not clear for the rest of the world that an operation will be carried out (with an idiotic name like "hunting for a raccoon") and that's it ... a big sign from Damascus, moreover, it is already clear who will be next - Iran ...
  17. tambu
    tambu 18 October 2012 11: 00
    +2
    This is, of course, everything is written correctly, the article is written correctly ... but what's the use of discussing this if no one tramples on the US? It's easy to hate quietly sitting in a country with a peaceful sky, but we all understand that Syria will end sooner or later ... after all, Russia may be indignant, China may demand, but everything will be over by the time this happens, quickly (a month? ) and it is not clear for the rest of the world that an operation will be carried out (with an idiotic name like "hunting for a raccoon") and that's it ... big greetings from Damascus, moreover, it is already clear who will be next - Iran ...
    1. Lucky
      Lucky 18 October 2012 12: 25
      +1
      Yes, unfortunately we are weak today and cannot yet make something intelligible against the states, but as they say, there will be a holiday on our street, we are slowly recovering
      1. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 23 October 2012 17: 57
        0
        Lucky,
        Quote: Lucky
        we are slowly recovering

        At such a pace, we will be recovering for about a hundred years, and until then Syria and Iran are already (democratized) and we will have to resist one after the other after 25-30 years, if not earlier.
  18. escapes
    escapes 18 October 2012 11: 15
    +8
    It’s time we already have organized a couple of rallies, and the Moscow party, for thousands of thousands of munias, has come out now, so let it out now flutter with the Syrian flags, and demanding a tougher position of Russia to the west!
    At least some benefit)
  19. Skavron
    Skavron 18 October 2012 12: 35
    +5
    Who will undertake to organize anti-Turkish demonstrations ???
    I will come!!!
  20. 3 points from Ilyich
    3 points from Ilyich 18 October 2012 12: 50
    +8
    The Ukrainian people also support Syria and Assad !!
  21. nycsson
    nycsson 18 October 2012 14: 05
    +8
    Analysts have calculated the real number of armed groups of the Syrian opposition

    print

    Posted 18.10.2012/00/03 XNUMX:XNUMX
    Posted by: Conflicts and Laws
    Views: 492

    oppozitsiya siriya

    Military analysts in France and the United States believe that the total number of units of the armed anti-government opposition in Syria is 30 thousand people. This became known today from European diplomatic circles.


    “By order of French President François Hollande, the other day the special services completed work to establish the real numerical strength of the Syrian opposition,” the source said. "Al-Qaeda" and structures close to it ".

    Previously, Paris and Washington believed that the armed opposition in Syria relies on detachments totaling 70 thousand people.

    According to competent sources, the new data on the size of the opposition in the Arab republic "pose serious problems for the West, since it does not allow hoping for an independent victory of the opponents of the current government within the next six months."

    Western countries have defined this deadline for themselves - until the beginning of spring 2013 - as the time when their sanctions, together with the vigorous actions of the Syrian armed anti-government opposition, should lead to a regime change in the republic. However, these plans have now been called into question.

    "The reality is that President Bashar al-Assad is winning because he managed to maintain the loyalty of the Syrian armed forces, and the number of insurgents does not allow us to hope for a quick victory," the European diplomat said.

    At the same time, he stressed that "Iran has played an important role in the current situation in Syria, which provides Damascus with direct military support," ITAR-TASS reports.
    1. Che
      Che 19 October 2012 07: 49
      +2
      nycsson,
      No wonder MANPADS want to supply them.
  22. Salut71
    Salut71 18 October 2012 14: 06
    +1
    Can someone explain to me. And what consequences can happen if Russia leaves the UN? Hypothetically?
  23. klava
    klava 18 October 2012 14: 35
    +6
    Where do they dig these aunts. This is horror. All as a selection - Albright, Rise, Crinton and this. Angry, aggressive, here you have equality. A female careerist in politics is a disaster.
  24. markevo
    markevo 18 October 2012 15: 01
    0
    military help!
  25. markevo
    markevo 18 October 2012 15: 01
    0
    military help!
  26. Megatron
    Megatron 18 October 2012 16: 03
    +2
    apply unilaterally sanctions against the Saudis, Qatar and others like them in connection with the violation of democratic norms.


    In general, the Strait of Ordzum SHOULD belong to Iran, a piece on its other side was not legally torn away by the British. Who has a read on this topic?
  27. Orik
    Orik 18 October 2012 16: 41
    +4
    What kind of morality can be discussed, they don’t even know the words.
  28. andrei332809
    andrei332809 18 October 2012 16: 43
    0
    Quote: Orik
    What kind of morality can be discussed, they don’t even know the words

    from identity. from an immoral person to hear about morality is somehow ...
  29. cool.ya-nikola
    cool.ya-nikola 18 October 2012 17: 50
    +12
    Elena many thanks per article! It is a pity that such articles can only be read in VO! The rest of the media are somehow not inclined to cover the Syrian events, well, somehow they are not interested! Probably not a "format"! ... And then we wonder, and how are we losing "information wars"? ...
    Elena, I would like to wish you health, all the best, and further creative successes. And purely humanly wish: Being at the forefront, take care! Write more! Will wait!
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 20 October 2012 14: 07
      0
      We do not lose the war, we simply do not participate in them, what is going on on TV, solid propaganda of the West, from many channels one "365" and "star" from "100 TV" ! EVERYTHING OTHER DEBILIZATION OF THE POPULATION AND DEPARTURE FROM THE SOLUTION OF INTERNAL PROBLEMS AND ALL THIS IS IN THE HAND OF THE POWER! THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS MONEY, NOT A STRONG COUNTRY, THE CURRENT SITUATION FULLY SUITS THEM!
  30. Strashila
    Strashila 18 October 2012 18: 58
    0
    For what to see what they pay.
  31. andrey777
    andrey777 18 October 2012 21: 33
    +1
    I correctly put everything plus the article, but it’s too emotional (the article), it is quite possible that the reporter is a woman.
    1. avi117
      avi117 18 October 2012 21: 56
      +6
      Damn, he was going to Turkey the next year, to hell with them goats.
  32. Vikmay16
    Vikmay16 18 October 2012 23: 37
    +5
    All right! The situation in Syria must be considered internationally! Gather a union of like-minded people! And then the USA decides their political plans with the wrong hands! Internationally, support for aggression against Syria must be condemned!
  33. grandfather
    grandfather 19 October 2012 00: 03
    +4
    Victoria Nuland and Clinton, old political battered prostitutes.
    nothing more to add.
  34. _Forgiven_
    _Forgiven_ 19 October 2012 00: 11
    +5
    Yes, indeed, who set the article as a minus what
    In my opinion, everything is clear and on the topic, without modifying the real situation. You don’t even go to a fortuneteller, it’s all clear who makes a mess in Syria. Thank God that there are allies among the tormented people.
  35. FATEMOGAN
    FATEMOGAN 19 October 2012 00: 15
    +4
    “Moscow will closely follow the investigation into the incident with the supply of weapons to Syrian militants through the Turkish port.

    This was announced today by the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry Alexander Lukashevich.

    According to him, "the data on the supply of weapons to the Syrian opposition on a Libyan ship through the Turkish port of Iskenderun have been confirmed." “We proceed from the premise that the UN Security Council Sanctions Committee should comprehensively study this incident and take all necessary measures to avoid a repetition of violations of the international sanctions regime in the future,” the diplomat emphasized.
    and here is the first official stone in the Turkish garden, I hope soon the cobblestones will fly in that direction good
  36. meq
    meq 19 October 2012 00: 45
    -7
    An article in the style of "Fulfill the annual plan in 3 days." Yelena didn’t tell you to grow up and write pioneering articles? Ato all your life you can remain "Octobrist".
  37. Magadan
    Magadan 19 October 2012 05: 41
    +5
    Quote: neodim
    The travel company Grand Travel Group has suspended the sale of tours to Turkey and the United States

    Now I know in which travel agency I will buy travel packages. I’m going to their site, I’ll look where you can go in the summer :)
  38. Region65
    Region65 19 October 2012 14: 50
    +1
    A sharp Russophobic statement erupted from the State Department, Mrs. Victoria Nuland. .... let me make a small remark to the author of the article. Russophobia is when exactly the Russian hates everything Russian, and when in relation to any nation (in this case, the Russians), a creature who doesn’t have a nationality has a negative attitude (in this case the same lady from the State Department) it’s called nationalism, fascism, Nazism, racism and so on ...

    but in general, everything is simple - in the US election race Obama earns points and Victoria Nuland herself develops a point.
  39. holding
    holding 19 October 2012 16: 09
    -1
    It's time to send volunteers to Syria.
  40. Cupec76
    Cupec76 19 October 2012 20: 07
    0
    soon they will have them
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 20 October 2012 14: 11
      -1
      I think ALREADY IS!
  41. gen.meleshkin
    gen.meleshkin 20 October 2012 15: 46
    0
    Good article, I support the author with all my heart.
  42. vlad.1924
    vlad.1924 20 October 2012 15: 59
    0
    Where are China and Russia looking? The United States for its "green candy wrappers" let all their dogs vassals, now to Syria ... Bankrupt in the person of the United States dictates to the whole world which countries are correct and which are not correct ??? And not correct - rules by robbery !!! It's time to bring down the "green candy wrapper", and with it the US economy! American soldiers will not fight without money ... It is only the Russians who can fight for the Motherland and for Putin ... and the Chinese too ....
  43. olo-olo
    olo-olo 21 October 2012 16: 16
    0
    state ass Nuland should be invited to Russia and raped. can’t come to my senses otherwise
  44. _Forgiven_
    _Forgiven_ 23 October 2012 16: 43
    -1
    Mrs. Nuland is unlikely to ever come to her senses. With their tiny cerebellum, obscured by democracy, it is generally difficult to understand the essence of things. But rape is not worth it, why dirty your hands and something else ...)))
  45. Roland
    Roland 24 October 2012 21: 21
    0
    With irony, even he understands how they put us in the West now.