“The troops were equipped with equipment from the national economy”: Poland sums up the results of the “modernization” of the army

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The Polish authorities intend to increase the number of armed forces three times - up to 300 thousand people. However, the country's population is in no hurry to replenish the military ranks, there are not enough sergeants and officers to staff new units, and the existing material base is not enough to equip the troops.

After the collapse of the USSR, the Polish army was steadily reduced.



Finally, it reached the size of one corps of three divisions, the country's navy was in a state of complete decline, and the air force is a mixture of obsolete aviation Soviet times and relatively modern Western production

- explains retired Polish colonel Piotr Lewandowski on the pages of Defense24.

According to him, the collapse also befell the country's defense industry in connection with the transition to the purchase of combat systems in the West. At the same time, the standardization of troops according to NATO canons actually affected only the special forces and one brigade that participated in missions in Iraq and Afghanistan, and then only thanks to the transfer of equipment and logistical support from the United States. The rest of the army, which was supplied according to the residual principle, was practically not affected by modernization.

Many did not notice how Jelcz buses and Star trucks disappeared from civilian life - the troops were equipped with equipment from the national economy

- explains the colonel.

Against this background, the authorities intend to create three more divisions. But there are no frames for new connections. According to the military, the Poles do not want to go to the service, considering it unattractive; there are not enough personnel to fill vacancies in the sergeants and officers. The situation is also bad with the material supply of the troops:

Soldiers still do not have proper equipment

the colonel points out.

As an example, he cites the lack of adequate outerwear - the jackets available in the troops, which are not able to protect against adverse weather conditions, the soldiers ironically call "ceratex". The army continues to purchase bulletproof vests that were deemed unusable after their use in Iraq.

We still have not been able to adequately equip the serving soldiers, not to mention the next thousands. At the same time, the option of withdrawing [the army] to the Vistula line to wait for NATO support after what we observed in Ukraine is unacceptable

- sums up the Polish officer.

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  1. +4
    20 August 2022 12: 37
    The Americans in the EU told everyone that you don't need an army, that's what NATO is for. So, you can not even "puff up"!
    1. 0
      20 August 2022 12: 44
      They want to take the role of the FRG in NATO, and this requires a large army. It's wonderful - first to prepare the Armed Forces of Ukraine for a new war against the people's republics, and then demand an increase in the army due to the "aggression" of Russia protecting these republics am And it will all end with nuclear "mushrooms" ...
      1. -3
        20 August 2022 14: 18
        Why do "nuclear" mushrooms "(from the expression "mushrooms from the resettlement") - in winter without gas and freeze like weeds in a garden ...
    2. +3
      20 August 2022 12: 48
      And without "puffing" it does not work. Otherwise, how to dream about Poland from "maybe to mozha"
      1. +3
        20 August 2022 14: 22
        Quote: Alexey Sedykin
        And without "puffing" it does not work. Otherwise, how to dream about Poland from "maybe to mozha"

        Well, she can’t, not m-o-w-e-t!
        1. +1
          20 August 2022 14: 58
          Well, so the eternal Polish rake ... Wishlist is much more than strength.
  2. +3
    20 August 2022 12: 41
    Poland is being led to disaster.
    1. +1
      20 August 2022 15: 14
      Lead? They themselves run there and even skip.
  3. GNM
    +8
    20 August 2022 12: 42
    the collapse also befell the country's defense industry in connection with the transition to the purchase of combat systems in the West

    1. +1
      20 August 2022 21: 15
      Quote: GNM
      the collapse also befell the country's defense industry in connection with the transition to the purchase of combat systems in the West

      Pride costs us more than hunger, thirst and cold. Thomas Jefferson
  4. +7
    20 August 2022 12: 43
    At the same time, poor Poland, which has recently transferred all the equipment from the national economy to Ukraine, 260 tanks and drones.

    All these stories about poverty are nothing more than begging for accelerated deliveries of the promised equipment and money.

    Against whom the jackals of Europe urgently collect three divisions is also not a special secret.
    1. 0
      20 August 2022 16: 06
      At the same time, poor Poland, which has recently transferred all the equipment from the national economy to Ukraine, 260 tanks and drones.

      Tanks and bespollotniks are not their own, so I handed it over ....
      1. 0
        20 August 2022 21: 05
        Just their own tanks, former Soviet ones.
        1. 0
          22 August 2022 12: 36
          former Soviet

          That's right: former strangers ....
  5. +4
    20 August 2022 12: 44
    The problem with the staffing of V.S. is now in all Western countries where conscription is not provided, well, young people do not want to become soldiers and officers, there is a different fashion, other moral guidelines, so this is not only a problem for Poland.
  6. +8
    20 August 2022 12: 46
    The military budget of Poland is 13 billion dollars, 25% of the Russian one, despite the fact that the size of the Russian army is 1 million people.

    Polish politicians and militants whine more in order to increase funding, which is already not small.

    And Russia will definitely not invade Poland, but we will soon have to defend ourselves from them.
    1. 0
      20 August 2022 16: 09
      The military budget of Poland is 13 billion dollars, 25% of the Russian one, despite the fact that the size of the Russian army is 1 million people

      The military budget of Poland is mastered by American companies, not Polish soldiers ....
      1. +1
        20 August 2022 16: 27
        Something tells me that the Polish soldier is an order of magnitude better provided for the Russian one.

        I’m looking and I see that Poland bought 1000 new armored personnel carriers and installed an anti-cumulative net on them, and for the last 40 years we have not climbed out of armed conflicts into battle BMP-1 and BTR-80 without any additional protection. We make fun of these grids and gratings on the Star, but this does little to help our crew, who are burning alive in these cars.

        Who is mastering our budget? Where is KAZ Arena? Where are the elementary anti-cumulative grids and nets? Why do we buy walkie-talkies, thermal imagers and quadrocopters for the front at the expense of voluntary donations?!
        1. 0
          20 August 2022 16: 41
          Something tells me that the Polish soldier is an order of magnitude better provided for the Russian one.

          And then what is this retired polkan complaining about?
          Soldiers still do not have proper equipment
          1. +1
            20 August 2022 20: 10
            To knock out more money from the budget for the army.
            1. 0
              22 August 2022 16: 22
              This money is mastered by American companies, not Polish soldiers ...
    2. 0
      20 August 2022 23: 28
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      And Russia will definitely not invade Poland

      Sure? Zhirinovsky promised that we would bomb Warsaw.
    3. -1
      21 August 2022 00: 28
      GROZNY, July 19 - RIA Novosti. The head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, spoke about the development of "grand" plans for the demilitarization of NATO countries, the first of which, after the capture of Kyiv, will be Poland.
      He posted a video with his assistant, the commander of the Akhmat special detachment, Apty Alaudinov, whom, according to Kadyrov, he finally managed to meet.
      "The plans are grandiose. We are already developing a plan for the demilitarization of NATO countries, and the first in line after the capture of Kyiv is Poland," Kadyrov wrote on his Telegram channel.
  7. +4
    20 August 2022 12: 48
    And what does the clip mean? belay
    Well, a puddle, well, to the hub ... so what?
    (I once drove a Zhiguli about 200 meters .. at a depth to the middle of the upper part of the tire, the exhaust pipe is 10 cm under water ..) (the fan turned off, and the ventilation of the distributor was sealed forever ...) (I knew! under water asphalt and pits, I remembered ...) so what?
  8. Mwg
    +3
    20 August 2022 12: 49
    Classics of liberalism: everyone is yelling at how independent, freedom-loving and strong they are, but no one wants to serve in the army, because it’s impossible. Let someone else. Tse Europa... Yeah...
    1. +1
      20 August 2022 13: 16
      Mwg hi, well, young people want to, LIVE BEAUTIFULLY for themselves and not die for an ent strange democracy al freedom. Although we have less, but such a movement is also gaining, the boys want to be bloggers, tik-tokers, it’s nice to hang out on these as their donations (if I’m not mistaken) until it’s very visible, but I wouldn’t relax.
      1. 0
        20 August 2022 13: 47
        Quote: Murmur 55
        boys want to be bloggers

        So that each resident has a personal blog
      2. Mwg
        +2
        20 August 2022 13: 48
        My regards! Not all of our boys are like that. I specifically observed this issue. Only majors and hanging out with them. By the way, among the majors, 10-15 percent is quite for themselves with the right settings. Only they are aimed, rather to command than to do themselves. However, skills are often present. These are just those whose fathers were engaged in sons, and did not throw off the upbringing of children on mothers.
  9. +2
    20 August 2022 12: 59
    And the West was given as an example to us, they have no corruption. Lobbying is not that. Maybe there are no cruising yachts in Poland either?
    1. +2
      20 August 2022 13: 19
      tralflot1832 hi, so Poland did not live sourly for help from E.S. for some time, then the kipish began, they say, payments are ending, but they didn’t figure out how to live on in Warsaw, there are also sanctions from Brussels for the courts. So they have problems too.
      1. 0
        20 August 2022 13: 37
        They even stole their "super-vacuum cleaner", the largest trawler in the world, out of harm's way into the Pacific Ocean. The British drove into the blue whiting fishing zone.
  10. 0
    20 August 2022 13: 17
    iouris (iouris)
    Poland is being led to disaster.
    She herself runs there stumbling and not one year. At the same time, he really wants to become the locomotive of Europe with the money of Europe, but so far he is content with the Baltic states and Ukraine and exclusively politically.
    1. 0
      20 August 2022 23: 32
      British clients. As one.
  11. +1
    20 August 2022 14: 13
    Many did not notice how Jelcz buses and Star trucks disappeared from civilian life - the troops were equipped with equipment from the national economy
    And also loaders and excavators - Staleva Vola ... By the way, this Star 660 was considered "old" even during my service in the SGV. Moreover, interestingly, the civilian modification had a solid cabin. And the military had these. Even near Szczecin in winter, my ZIL-131 was much more preferable than this columbine. How the Poles asked for our cabins to warm up, this is a different story when they deployed a joint US, not to mention cross-country ability. 131 would not even notice this puddle. The Urals would generally have walked along the highway, well, this is a different class.
  12. +1
    20 August 2022 14: 19
    Soldiers still do not have proper equipment

    the colonel points out.

    Because all the best is for Banderoats. request
  13. AML
    +2
    20 August 2022 14: 22
    Quote: Lex_is
    At the same time, poor Poland


    She is still poor, no matter how puffed up the Poles are.
    Poland has yet to return the debt of 600 billion euros. He didn't go anywhere. In fact, it may turn out that Poland does not belong to itself.
  14. 0
    20 August 2022 15: 05
    Why such news? Rejoice at how bad everything is there? Are our opponents ready for anything? We heard this until February 2022 about Ukraine, one in one of every iron. They are ready. THEY ARE READY! And we??!!
    Well, about the video .... What is it for? What for?
    We must work, work and work, in three shifts, everyone, at their post.
  15. -1
    20 August 2022 15: 20
    Poland must not be enough in Poland. And that's it.
  16. 0
    20 August 2022 15: 44
    However, the country's population is in no hurry to replenish the military ranks, there are not enough sergeants and officers to staff new units,

    Poles for nothing like logs, but dumb dumb - seeing what is happening with the serfs, they know correctly that no one will spare and protect them. NATO member? Downstairs!
  17. 0
    20 August 2022 18: 12
    It is best for the Poles to become neutrals now. The level of well-being will rise above the Swedish!
  18. -1
    20 August 2022 18: 56
    I would not underestimate the Poles. Today they already give 3% of the national income to the army. They are sublime people, I consider myself the punk of the race, and they really advance where the German army of the Wehrmacht once was. I know the Poles a little and I'm a little afraid of them. am