Patrushev: The West is preparing to move from a hybrid war with Russia to a real military conflict

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Secretary of the Russian Security Council Nikolai Patrushev made a number of important statements while addressing his colleagues at the 17th meeting of secretaries of security councils of the member states of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO). In particular, he accused Western countries of using the conflict in Ukraine as a pretext for waging a hybrid war with Russia. At the same time, Patrushev emphasized, “Westerners are trying to balance on the verge between hybrid actions and an open armed conflict with our country,” for which they are intensively preparing.

The special military operation launched by our country in Ukraine is used only as a pretext for unleashing an unprecedented global anti-Russian campaign

- says the secretary of the Russian Security Council.



Evidence of targeted hostile actions against our country is the resolution adopted at the last NATO summit, in which Russia is openly called an enemy of the alliance. Similar actions are being taken against China, which the United States is trying with all its might to provoke a confrontation with NATO, using the Taiwan issue for this, Patrushev stated. At the same time, Washington and London, in order to achieve their globalist goals, are striving to expand existing and create new military alliances in various regions of the world.

The Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation pointed out to his colleagues that the current meeting is taking place against the background of a geopolitical crisis provoked by the desire of the West to maintain a dominant position in the world and its hegemony to the detriment of the national interests of other countries.

Commenting on Tokyo’s statements at the events held in Hiroshima and Nagasaki dedicated to the victims of the atomic bombings, addressed to Russia, which was accused of alleged readiness to use nuclear weaponPatrushev said:

The Americans and their vassals, to justify their own foreign policy adventures, do not hesitate to resort to cynical lies, including rewriting stories. Japan, which is struggling to take a leading position among the world movement of Russophobes, can be cited as an example.

The Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation also warned that in the event of a nuclear disaster at the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, provoked by the criminal behavior of Kyiv, "Washington, London and their henchmen will be responsible for it."

Patrushev also spoke about the causes of the COVID-19 epidemic, in the emergence of which he does not exclude the role of the United States. It is Washington that is trying to shift the blame for the origin of the coronavirus to other countries. At the same time, the States are hushing up the scale and details of their own biological developments, which they carry out in different countries. According to the Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, in this way the United States "is trying to avoid responsibility, hide their role in the development of the pathogen and divert attention from their activities to increase military biological activity."

The seventeenth meeting of the secretaries of the Security Councils of the SCO member states was held today in Tashkent on the eve of the summit of leaders of the SCO countries scheduled for September 15-16 in Samarkand. At the upcoming summit of the heads of states of the Shanghai Union, in particular, the issue of admitting new states to the SCO will be considered. To date, more than ten countries have declared their desire to become participants and observers of the organization. Patrushev called the desire of so many countries to join the SCO "unprecedented", noting that this speaks of "an increase in the role and authority of the organization in world affairs."
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  1. 0
    19 August 2022 15: 05
    Well, they themselves will not go to war in the open. With someone else's hands - yes, but themselves no.
    1. +25
      19 August 2022 15: 09
      Well, they themselves will not go to war in the open. With someone else's hands - yes, but themselves no.
      If the end justifies the means, then these pragmatic "partners" are leaving their peoples in the millstone, for the first time or something ...
      1. +23
        19 August 2022 15: 26
        Quote: Trapp1st
        Well, they themselves will not go to war in the open. With someone else's hands - yes, but themselves no.
        If the end justifies the means, then these pragmatic "partners" are leaving their peoples in the millstone, for the first time or something ...


        If the West understands that we have strong Faberge and in which case we actually use nuclear weapons, then naturally it will not go for it, but it must be convinced of this by our tough actions in Ukraine. If they see our weakness and indecision there, then they may well decide take a risk. That's what it means to put yourself right. in the West they will understand that it is useless to go into a conflict of this kind with us, because they won’t take us on a show off and we won’t blink first, but if we can’t set ourselves tough from the very beginning, then we can reach the Caribbean crisis, or even go beyond it .And the fate of the world will then be in the balance.
        1. +16
          19 August 2022 15: 30
          but how did North Korea deploy American destroyers ?????
          1. +16
            19 August 2022 15: 35
            Quote from uyrii
            but how did North Korea deploy American destroyers ?????


            Well, North Korea has Faberge, so it deployed.
          2. -6
            19 August 2022 15: 39
            The Chinese are covering.
            1. +10
              19 August 2022 15: 45
              and a visit to Taiwan and what did the Chinese do????
              1. +2
                21 August 2022 12: 11
                Le Dragon est comme l'Ours, il ne ne précipite pas, les deux réfléchissent, répondent par des actions appropriées.
                Le jour où ces deux là se fâcheront, les anglo-saxon-sionistes le regretteront.
                En cas de conflit majeur, je souhaite que la Russie nous fournira (complotistes aujourd'hui et résistants demain) des armes pour titiller les arrières des troupes occidentales.
                1. 0
                  21 August 2022 17: 58
                  time is not right and weapons are deadly for the whole planet - what does that mean??? "Putin: "Why do we need a world in which there will be no Russia?"
            2. 0
              24 August 2022 19: 39
              Whom they can cover, they even let a grandmother into Taiwan, such a shame for the whole world. The dragon turned out to be puffy ....
          3. +1
            19 August 2022 16: 33
            "North Korea deployed American destroyers?"
            in general, aircraft carriers. Comrade Yn fired a rocket, somewhere in that direction, and that's it. trump then went to him in Vietnam, on call
        2. +2
          19 August 2022 23: 56
          everything is fine with Faberge, I remember many people said that the GDP would not go to protect the Donbass, to protect the Russian people, that the oligarchs, etc., would not give, and in general the guard - they sucked everything as they say, we just prepared, I also think about nuclear weapons preparations "just in case" are already underway, the Poseidons are quietly sailing towards the west coast
        3. 0
          20 August 2022 09: 33
          so far, our humanism and concern for everyone on the planet is stronger than our Faberge ...
        4. 0
          20 August 2022 13: 02
          Absolutely right ! This is called authority. This is earned over the years, and lost in 5 minutes.
        5. 0
          24 August 2022 14: 25
          NATO summit resolution in which Russia is openly called an enemy of the alliancea.

          We need to be ready for a preemptive strike
      2. +14
        19 August 2022 16: 27
        I do not believe that they will not climb into the open. How else will they climb. Therefore, we must prepare for any scenario.
        1. 0
          20 August 2022 13: 05
          To the one who "chews snot" they will climb, for sure. They know how to calculate the thin spot. And we know him.
    2. -16
      19 August 2022 15: 10
      Well, they themselves will not go to war in the open. With someone else's hands - yes, but themselves no.

      So other people's hands end. Poland will not last even a week. The Germans will not climb, definitely. Brits are far away.
      1. +25
        19 August 2022 15: 14
        Poland will not last even a week.
        Like alcoholics, drug addicts, marauders and criminals with APU?
        1. -2
          19 August 2022 21: 34
          Quote: Trapp1st
          Poland will not last even a week.
          Like alcoholics, drug addicts, marauders and criminals with APU?

          Drug addicts and alcoholics are being dumped with money, Mom Don't Cry. And there will be enough for drugs and alcohol, just gather people together and arm them for cannon fodder ... A kind of minced meat grinder from living people ... Drug addicts with alcoholics turn the handle ... Or is Valtsman not an alonaut? Maybe Zelya is not a cocaine sniffer? Maybe it's a drug addict with an alcoholic fighting? Uncle Sam, at the suggestion of the Rothschild-Rockefellers, puts dollars in their shorts, like striptease whores, they perform .. a deadly striptease.
      2. +19
        19 August 2022 15: 18
        they also said that about Ukraine ..
        1. +5
          19 August 2022 15: 39
          Quote: Dikson
          they also said that about Ukraine ..


          well, Ukraine would not have lasted a week if it had not taken its citizens hostage in settlements, and Russia would not have considered these citizens one people with itself.
          The Poles are not one people for us, which means that in the event of a war we will equate Poland as the United States equated Rakka.
          1. +7
            19 August 2022 16: 36
            "Poles are not one people for us, which means that in case of war we will equalize"
            and do not even think, they will find a reason to slow down
        2. +5
          19 August 2022 16: 34
          they also said that about Ukraine ..

          Do not forget that the Ukrainians are receiving weapons and everything (including money, mercenaries, advisers, logistics, etc.) from all over Europe, America, Australia + 4 mobilizations have already passed.
        3. -1
          19 August 2022 17: 25
          There are 115 thousand warriors in Poland. This is less than the contingent in 404.
          1. 0
            24 August 2022 14: 29
            Quote from Alex
            There are 115 thousand warriors in Poland. This is less than the contingent in 404.


            This is three times less than the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine during the NWO today.
      3. +2
        19 August 2022 16: 34
        "Poland will not last even a week."
        yeah, they said the same thing
        1. -4
          19 August 2022 17: 28
          And where is it now?
          1. -1
            20 August 2022 10: 03
            "And where is it now?"
            Yes, in the same place and where it was, practically. avdiivka, marinka, etc.
            1. -2
              20 August 2022 11: 52
              In Avdiivka, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are raking heavily. The inhabitants of Yasinovataya will not let you lie.
              1. +2
                20 August 2022 13: 15
                "In Avdiivka, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are raking heavily"
                I do not argue, it's been six months already
                1. +1
                  20 August 2022 15: 32
                  I agree that the tactics imposed on us are detrimental to the prospect. On the other hand, since it is possible to effectively unwind them even with such a deaf defense and local jumps of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then why not? The only thing, IMHO, is that more often you need to work on the deep rear (Lviv, Kyiv, Vinnitsa, etc.) and logistics.
      4. -2
        20 August 2022 06: 05
        Ukraine also resists, and then Poland, the Balts, Kazakhstan, cross-eyed, many who want
    3. +4
      19 August 2022 15: 11
      Quote: Ural_engineer
      Well, they themselves will not go to war in the open. With someone else's hands - yes, but themselves no.

      With someone else's hands, it is consciously transferring the territories of these same hands to Russia, as the latter are completed.
      1. +13
        19 August 2022 15: 18
        Your comment will be understood not only by everyone .. laughing
        1. -1
          19 August 2022 17: 40
          Quote: igorka357
          Your comment will be understood not only by everyone .. laughing

          Well, you are here! We've run out of hands, there's nothing to hold the territory with - so that we don't fall, we'll pick it up! .. hi
          1. +2
            21 August 2022 11: 36
            Not only did I understand everything, from this I understood .. laughing
    4. +1
      19 August 2022 15: 11
      Quote: Ural_engineer
      Well, they themselves will not go to war in the open. With someone else's hands - yes, but themselves no.


      And by someone else's hands they have already climbed. Ukrainian.
      1. 0
        19 August 2022 17: 42
        Quote: 1976AG
        And by someone else's hands they have already climbed. Ukrainian.

        Unfortunately, the hands turned out to be strong, and the brains were taken out ...
    5. +10
      19 August 2022 15: 12
      Quote: Ural_engineer
      Well, they themselves will not go to war in the open. With someone else's hands - yes, but themselves no.

      They will climb, even you can not doubt. 100 American troops have already been stationed in Europe. We are mere mortals, we do not even represent the real balance of power. And the whole of Europe is preparing hard for this.
      1. +8
        19 August 2022 15: 16
        The longer we delay with saloreich, the greater the chances. In March, the embassies were evacuated, and now the gentlemen have clearly cheered up, come to their senses.
        By the way, even the channel of Katya and Valya (DPR, they are collecting humanitarian aid for the fighters) writes:

        "There are no political materials or reflections on our channel at all.
        But! It seems the red line has long been passed. Only in the evening Belgorod, Kerch, Sevastopol, not to mention the barbaric shelling of Donbass.

        It is not good if even the citizens of the DPR notice the habit of drawing new red lines, much closer than the old ones.
      2. +12
        19 August 2022 15: 28
        Yes, they are getting ready. And we? Where is the initial military training at the school, where are the periodic collections of reservists? There is nothing of this, everything has been fucked up for a long time. About the construction or restoration of more Soviet bomb shelters that were in every area, I don’t remember at all.
        1. ada
          0
          19 August 2022 16: 44
          Vashcheta, NVP, that is, her clone is: "... 13. Teaching citizens basic knowledge in the field of defense and their training in the basics of military service in educational institutions is carried out in accordance with federal state educational standards: within the framework of the subject" Fundamentals of life safety "- in educational institutions of secondary (complete) general education; within the discipline "Life Safety" - in educational institutions of primary vocational and secondary vocational education ....
          ... The overall assessment of citizens studying in educational institutions (training centers) is recorded in the class journal with the note "Training fees", which is taken into account when setting the final grade for the entire course of study at an educational institution (training center).
          Citizens who evade training fees are given an unsatisfactory mark for the fees. ..."https://base.garant.ru/198025/53f89421bbdaf741eb2d1ecc4ddb4c33/#friends
          That is, in order to receive education according to the standard, a citizen must have a positive assessment.
          Gathering activities from the GPP are held annually according to plan. Everyone has heard about the release of the relevant decrees.
          Another question is the effectiveness and sufficiency of these measures for the country's defense capability. Well, about civil defense - it’s obvious to everyone that if the majority of the population does nothing to ensure civil defense, only emergency situations help a little in mastering practical measures for some of those involved.
          Yes, they are preparing - I confirm, and have been preparing for a long time. But, there is a peculiarity, there some are preparing others to die for them, and, not surprisingly, they obviously succeed. Here, the balance of those and those in quantitative terms of the population of the countries involved in the process is more interesting, and in fact their greater commonality pushes the smaller one to the frontier. The most dangerous thing about this is that they seem to be creating a strategic reserve that we don't have.
      3. -1
        19 August 2022 17: 47
        Quote: Zhan
        They will climb, even you can not doubt. 100 American troops have already been stationed in Europe. We are mere mortals, we do not even represent the real balance of power. And the whole of Europe is preparing hard for this.

        EU members have not been warriors for a long time. With the fall in the standard of living and the collapse of production, little people will raise their tomato lords on the pitchforks. As for the striped troops, "Belgorod" is already on the march ... soldier
    6. +4
      19 August 2022 15: 44
      Anyone can be someone else's hands, starting with Poland and ending with Japan, and other Finlands, so it doesn't really matter to us whose hands they will fight. It is important now to convey to them and, if necessary, to fulfill that if they arrange a release of radiation at the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, then a similar release, for completely independent reasons, will occur off the coast of Dover and Manhattan.
      1. -4
        19 August 2022 16: 39
        "then a similar outburst, for completely independent reasons"
        don't worry, they won't blow out. well, maybe Antonov will throw something out, unnecessary
    7. +1
      19 August 2022 16: 11
      Quote: Ural_engineer
      Well, they themselves will not go to war in the open. With someone else's hands - yes, but themselves no.

      They started the war with the hands of the "potheads", then they will launch the Poles, and then everyone else will catch up.
      1. 0
        19 August 2022 16: 59
        Quote: tihonmarine
        They started the war with the hands of the "potheads", then they will launch the Poles, and then everyone else will catch up.

        And they themselves will "lead" across the ocean .. Like America is with you, etc. The United States needs a war and urgently, at the world level .. The main thing is to be in Eurasia again! They have a lot of debt.
        China is being provoked, the same thing is happening in Kosovo, the Finns and Swedes are being set against Russia .. Who else is left? Oh yes, Kazakhstan can again bug Armenia too .. They overlaid Russia with bastards !!!
        1. +1
          20 August 2022 10: 52
          Quote from gansales
          Oh yes, Kazakhstan can again zabuzit Armenia .. They overlaid Russia with bastards !!!

          When the kirdyk comes to Ukraine, they will switch to these two options. Although it is easier with Armenia, Erdogan stands next to him with nukers.
          1. 0
            20 August 2022 11: 24
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Quote from gansales
            Oh yes, Kazakhstan can again zabuzit Armenia .. They overlaid Russia with bastards !!!

            When the kirdyk comes to Ukraine, they will switch to these two options. Although it is easier with Armenia, Erdogan stands next to him with nukers.

            Well done Vlad!!! Fumbling good
            1. 0
              20 August 2022 11: 34
              Quote from gansales
              Well done Vlad!!! Fumbling

              Yes, after Harbin, when Khrushch threw us into exile near Semipalatinsk, I realized that "God forbid these guys become independent."
  2. +5
    19 August 2022 15: 09
    Well, for starters, the Yankees will oblige the extinctions and the fields to more actively help the non-country, then other former "social pages" of Hungarians, Romanians, Czechs and Slovaks, Albanians will be sent into the crucible of war ... And, only when all this is disposed of, or scatter en masse, will surrender to captured, then they will throw the Italians, Germans, French, naglichiniki .... Australia will butt heads with the Chinese, like the Japs, so the Yankees themselves can send their troops against Russia for dessert. But, this is far away, on the continent there is more than enough cannon fodder to fight against us!
    1. +4
      19 August 2022 16: 12
      Quote: Thrifty
      But, this is far away, on the continent there is more than enough cannon fodder to fight against us!

      I support your opinion, the alignment is correct.
    2. ada
      0
      19 August 2022 16: 54
      Quote: Thrifty
      ... then they will throw the Italians, Germans, French ...

      Vashcheta, for them there has always been another task - the Western European barrier.
  3. +2
    19 August 2022 15: 09
    Well, great, in many ways this is the result of our indecision since 2014. and our Chinese comrades will sit in the corner? We are already talking about combatants from the DPRK, although for some reason our officials deny everything.
    1. +3
      19 August 2022 15: 11
      and our Chinese comrades
      Since 91 we are not their comrades!
      1. 0
        19 August 2022 15: 20
        Fellow travelers at least if they want to defend sovereignty
        1. +1
          19 August 2022 15: 24
          Fellow travelers at least if they want to defend sovereignty
          It is in their interests that we grapple with the West as strongly as possible, and inflict maximum damage.
          1. +2
            19 August 2022 16: 53
            Hardly so. We cannot defeat the West alone, at best - a nuclear draw. Our loss will only strengthen the West, China will be crushed by the next step. The lunar landscape of a nuclear draw is also not in the interests of China. I hope China understands this.
            1. -3
              19 August 2022 17: 45
              Hardly so.
              The more damage we do, the less will be left for China, the easier it will be for him to cope ...
      2. -1
        19 August 2022 16: 13
        Quote: Trapp1st
        Since 91 we are not their comrades!

        But not enemies either.
    2. +3
      19 August 2022 15: 53
      The fifth column had not yet been cleared out, and even now the horse did not roll, but with such a contingent in the rear, what serious thing can you even start?
      1. -1
        19 August 2022 18: 42
        uzother (Sergey), Today, 15:53, NEW - "... The fifth column had not yet been cleared out, and even now the horse did not roll, but with such a contingent in the rear, what serious can you even start?..."

        Bad, colleague, you think, however, 5 (Navalny and ...) and 6 (in power - at least, those to 300 yards of the ZV Reserve "leaked", etc.) column bully and the "foreign" legion was forgotten am . Guests from Wed. Asia - "... Over the past three months, 4,16 million migrants got registered with the migration registration at the place of stay, while 75 percent indicated work as the purpose of arrival (1,04 ml hung somewhere) ... Oh. warping - "DIASPORA DIVIDED RUSSIA INTO ZONES OF INFLUENCE. WHAT ARE RUSSIAN?" 15 AUGUST 2022 00:00, HTTPS://TSARGRAD.TV/ARTICLES/DIASPORY-PODELILI-ROSSIJU-NA-ZONY-VLIJANIJA-A-CHTO-RUSSKIE_604350
        Incl. the question is, how long, how fast was it? crying Have a pleasant search for "digits", just don't go to ROSSTAT, their job is to take care of your nerves .... It's better in the FSB - to the border guards ... sometimes the Ministry of Internal Affairs ...
        Have you forgotten with whom the "brothers" in the CSTO are now "training"? bully
        "...from On August 10-20, Dushanbe hosts the Regional Cooperation-2022 exercise organized by the US Central Command. According to the official version - with the aim of "strengthening regional security and stability, increasing the ability of countries to curb the spread of weapons of mass destruction, terrorism and drug trafficking." But what really?
        In the command and staff part of the exercises, who were condemned by the neighboring Afghanistn, military personnel from the USA, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan take part, belay and Mongolia and Pakistan as observers. Besides ТTajikistan and the United States will conduct "practical testing of tasks" for five days at the Fakhrabad training center. lol To do this, the American military arrived in Tajikistan with their equipment .... Anyone who understands even a little about world politics and the role of the United States in it will perfectly understand that the real goal of these exercises is to create conditions for plunging into chaos in the vast region between Russia and China, so that weaken, divert attention from other tasks of both opponents of the United States, forcing, first of all, the Russians to shed their blood in Central Asia, sending millions of refugees from there to Russia to destabilize the situation inside the country .... "the reason is" A SENSATION ABOUT WHICH MOSCOW IS SILENT: CSTO MEMBERS HAVE SUBMISSION TO NATO"
        AUGUST 16, 2022 07:00

        Incl. "we need to look wider and evaluate our "nothing" - deeper" recourse
        Fun? No. Yes, do we have to be sad ... "partners" and "brothers" will not let us wink hi
    3. 0
      19 August 2022 16: 43
      "and our Chinese comrades will just sit in the corner?"
      we are not their comrades, but temporary fellow travelers and a source of very cheap raw materials. but they won’t fight for us, they’ll just buy raw materials elsewhere, a little more expensive
    4. ada
      +3
      19 August 2022 17: 41
      Quote: IvanIvanov
      ... in many ways this is the result of our indecision since 2014. ...

      No, this is the result of the early 80s. It was then that the initial theoretical calculations and their practical elaboration allowed the West (conditionally) to form the concept of moving to the East and develop strategies, methods and means of counteracting us and begin long-term planning, including military, while their practical development and systematic implementation. The year 2014 is no better than 2022, just a different configuration of forces and events.
      And, more precisely, this is one of the results of WWII, during which our country lost a significant number of the active population - the main driving force that formed the PEOPLE, namely, the SOVIET PEOPLE. It's just that the "population" is not even able to protect itself, let alone more. It is this situation in our country that was the basis for theoretical research on preparing for a campaign for resources that should (according to concurring estimates for us and for them) show a scarcity trend since 1995, including free territories, oil and fresh water. . Who prepared WWII is already clear to everyone.
      1. +1
        19 August 2022 23: 54
        You are absolutely right, the population is not yet a people, regarding estimates, in the year, like, 95, an article came across in the ZS magazine, they organized a round table where pundits and demographers, economists, sociologists, etc., talked about the future of Russia, so here, there was only one conclusion, we were finished, the difference was only in the appointed time, some gave 20-25 years, others 50 years, not one spoke out for the fact that Russia might have a future. I was very upset then, it’s like to read an obituary about yourself alive is extremely unpleasant. Well, 25 has passed, which means that some have already hit the sky with their finger, look what happens next. hi
    5. -2
      19 August 2022 18: 36
      Isn't it time for us to take a swing at our good old hydrogen bomb tests? Well, in order to bring many back to reality, that they are going on another trip to the east? After all, at least half of them no longer remember the existence of these weapons in our country. And to be honest, I don’t even know if we still have it? Maybe, when in love ecstasy with the West they entered, everything was put under the knife? With our friendly politicians of that time will become.
  4. Two
    +1
    19 August 2022 15: 10
    And what did the secretaries on this "arrow" say? Approved and offered help? Or was everyone on their phone while they performed?
  5. +1
    19 August 2022 15: 11
    “Washington, London and their henchmen will be responsible for it”

    And we will deal with the consequences.
    1. +4
      19 August 2022 15: 16
      And we will deal with the consequences.
      And the responsibility will be placed on us, everyone abroad of the Russian Federation, no matter what Patrushev says there.
      1. +2
        20 August 2022 13: 23
        What does he say there? What he says can be seen even with the level of TSPSH. Aren't you ashamed to grind water? At this level of government, to carry obvious things. Decisions must be taken seriously. Shame on such leadership.
  6. IGU
    0
    19 August 2022 15: 11
    Quote: Ural_engineer
    Well, they themselves will not go to war in the open. With someone else's hands - yes, but themselves no.

    Not only by proxy, but also for other people's money.
  7. 0
    19 August 2022 15: 15
    The West is a loose concept. The Americans are rubbing their hands and getting ready to extract dividends, they are overseas, war is their mother. The British are trying to match them, hoping to sit out across the English Channel. True, it gets worse over the years. In the rest of Europe, everything depends on the kookies and the mind of the leadership of specific countries.
    1. +1
      19 August 2022 15: 22
      Theoretically, their mob resource is not limited, we need an alliance with China, North Korea, Iran, with at least neutral India, then there will be another conversation.
      1. +3
        19 August 2022 15: 31
        Only now you can see the PRC does not need it.
      2. ada
        +1
        19 August 2022 17: 52
        Quote: IvanIvanov
        Theoretically, their mob resource is not limited, ...

        No, it is not sufficient for large-scale actions on a long-term basis, and they clearly know this. To accumulate human resources, migration is stimulated and its flows directed to the required regions by creating an appropriate situation in other regions. In particular, in order to prepare the conditions for the "Great War in Europe", where one of the necessary conditions was the number of unsettled sections of the population, it was necessary to accumulate a labile human resource. The process was watched live.
    2. 0
      19 August 2022 16: 14
      Quote from Pharmacist
      In the rest of Europe, everything depends on the kookies and the mind of the leadership of specific countries.

      Yes, only Europe thinks with the brains of the Anglo-Saxons. Everything else is the same.
  8. +1
    19 August 2022 15: 18
    He promised that the Eastern Kresy psheks would be taken away in May. Where are the pies?
  9. -1
    19 August 2022 15: 21
    However, when in the early 2000s the question was discussed: whether or not there was a genocide perpetrated by the Japanese in China, we took the position "there was no genocide."
  10. +3
    19 August 2022 15: 21
    Basically, he didn't say anything new.
    The main question is who among these SCO members is ready to take our side?
  11. GNM
    0
    19 August 2022 15: 22
    ...Washington and London, in order to achieve their globalist goals, are striving to expand existing and create new military alliances in various regions of the world...

  12. +6
    19 August 2022 15: 24
    Similar actions are being taken against China, which the United States is doing its best to provoke into a confrontation with NATO, using the Taiwan issue for this.
    Let there be no war there until Ukraine is finished. What are we all trying to pull China with us?! Since March, everyone has been waiting for him to attack Taiwan. It won't happen, you have to rely on yourself
  13. -1
    19 August 2022 15: 28
    Damn well thanks cap. And then we didn't know
    1. -2
      19 August 2022 15: 32
      Well, after February 24.02, you need to say something.
  14. -2
    19 August 2022 15: 38
    Well, the West is understandable... And how about Russia? Is it driving gas and oil to partners, excuse me, to enemies?
    1. +1
      19 August 2022 16: 04
      Call them unfriendly partners laughing
  15. +1
    19 August 2022 15: 45
    The United States has no other formula for governing Europe, except to "be friends against Russia."
    Even a graduate of a school "with an increased labor bias" is quite clear that together Europe and Russia would develop in knowledge-intensive and important industries.

    Look at the quote from the text - "....
    conflict with our country", for which they are intensively preparing ..."
    They close everything with a war, and we have already practiced on their new weapons and NATO tactics.
  16. -4
    19 August 2022 15: 46
    A comrade in a high position farted into eternity. But at work, he should be better informed than the president about what is happening abroad. But it is necessary to fart a horror story for internal use.
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  17. 0
    19 August 2022 15: 49
    The Americans and their vassals, in order to justify their own foreign policy adventures, do not hesitate to resort to cynical lies, including the rewriting of history.
    All the rules, all the norms of decency, civility and other international garbage swept under the table like unnecessary garbage ... now, only the Wishlist of several elite groups have the meaning of that set / gathering at / D / urks who call themselves politicians, leaders of states.
    Everything was leading up to this...
  18. +2
    19 August 2022 15: 56
    So the West has always, throughout history, prepared for war with Russia and fought. Another question is that the same USSR had such "fists" that the matter ended only with preparation and minor dirty tricks on the geopolitical landscape. A trial balloon in the form of a square has already been launched, and it is clear that Western analysts, coupled with their supercomputers (where without them?), Calculate and draw conclusions about Russia's capabilities. It seems to me that they are especially interested in missile defense. That is why we see all these deliveries of Humars and missiles to them. The main goal is to collect information and analysis, and not to help the Aboriginal Square.
  19. +2
    19 August 2022 15: 58
    As long as Russia at all levels with any "shooters" will explain, consider complaining that the United States is trying to bend Russia, threaten it and help its enemies, until then the participants in the "shooters" will have a double feeling about the strength of Russia, since many of those to whom Russia complains about the United States, many of them are still feeding from the clutches of that very United States.
    So don't expect help from them. And why then complain, all the more so since everyone on the "strelka" has their own secretariats of the security service, which, possibly, also cooperates with special forces. services of the same USA ...
    And the pro-Western Medvedev is also in the Security Council of Russia!???
    1. +2
      19 August 2022 17: 12
      Quote: north 2
      And the pro-Western Medvedev is also in the Security Council of Russia!???

      A pokemon sits and tries to build a kind of "hawk" out of itself, most likely it aims again at condoms and someone writes his speeches to him ..
      God forbid if the dimon appears again
      1. -1
        20 August 2022 14: 06
        ......... "God forbid if the dimon appears again"

        Hasn't the country got some brains?
        1. -1
          20 August 2022 14: 17
          Quote: VladMirU
          ......... "God forbid if the dimon appears again"

          Hasn't the country got some brains?

          Are you talking about Russia?
          I'll wet you now .. For such glory Vovochik negative
  20. 0
    19 August 2022 16: 05
    Well, it's logical. Swedes, Poles, French, Germans, all invaded the east. Western Europeans teamed up with Hitler and killed 30 million Russians. My two great-grandparents and great-grandmother were killed. It makes no sense to wait for a new attack, you need to attack first. Burn the eastern hostile countries up to France. And let there be a border between Russia and the West from the exclusion zone. Well, if the French, the British and the USA climb in, then given the ratio of 1 billion Europeans to 100 million Russians, it will be a glorious death for the glory of the motherland 1 to 10.
    1. ada
      0
      19 August 2022 18: 08
      Quote from Eva Star
      ... Burn the eastern hostile countries up to France. And let there be a border between Russia and the West from the exclusion zone. ...

      You me not that surprised, but paid attention to it. Vashcheta, you (probably on a whim) described in some way the theme of one of their staff games. Roughly speaking, the probability considered as an intermediate result of a number of military events with negative factors of the situation for further actions. In general - a failure of planning at the level of refusal to take further actions in the strategic direction until new decisions are developed.
  21. +3
    19 August 2022 16: 07
    "Washington, London and their henchmen will be responsible for it."
    Yah! Maybe I shouldn't ask this (who am I against Patrushev?), but I'll ask anyway. And what exactly will this "responsibility" consist of?
    1. -1
      20 August 2022 14: 09
      Does he even know this word?
  22. +1
    19 August 2022 16: 09
    It is high time to build reinforced concrete shelters for aviation, in three or four months it was possible to cover all the planes in the Crimea. What were you waiting for? And it's time to start metallurgy at full capacity, so that there is enough for fittings and for the restoration of bridges. Up to the point that excess metal is stored in the state reserve. After all, both gas and oil are now in abundance. Why do factories stop?
    1. ada
      +1
      19 August 2022 17: 56
      Undoubtedly, even in the conditions of the domestic market, and preferably with the formation of state-owned enterprises.
      1. -1
        19 August 2022 18: 06
        It is not even necessary to carry out nationalization now. Somehow they did that metallurgy stood up. So you can make it work again at full power.
  23. -4
    19 August 2022 16: 22
    I see a patriot in this man. Someone you can trust to get the fifth column through hell.
    1. +7
      19 August 2022 17: 09
      The eldest son Dmitry has been the Minister of Agriculture of the Russian Federation since May 18, 2018. Worked as Vice President of VTB Bank. In May 2012, at the age of 34, he was appointed Chairman of the Board of the 4th largest bank in Russia, Rosselkhozbank, and is a member of the Board of Directors of PJSC Gazprom. On October 26, 2016, by decree of the President of the Russian Federation No. 572, Dmitry Patrushev "for his great contribution to the organization of credit support for the agro-industrial complex" was awarded the Order of Honor

      The youngest son Andrey graduated from the Academy of the FSB of Russia in July 2003, worked in the FSB of Russia in the so-called "industrial" department, and in September 2006 he was appointed adviser to the director of Rosneft Igor Sechin. Wife - Elena Nikolaevna Patrusheva (born 1955) - worked as an ultrasound diagnostics doctor, was an employee of Vnesheconombank. In 1993, together with Boris Gryzlov and other classmates and colleagues of her husband, she became the founder of Borg LLP, which specialized in the export of scrap metal. There the whole family is patriotic, and there are a lot of such families in the leadership of the country. Nepotism and family contract
      1. -1
        19 August 2022 18: 13
        As always...
        Not these people are so different - this is how the social structure of human society works.
        You have to answer for yourself.
        And history will smile at you too!
      2. -1
        19 August 2022 18: 30
        Quote: Sergey V
        There the whole family is patriotic, and there are a lot of such families in the leadership of the country. Nepotism and family contract

        How tired they are - the new nobles wassat Instead of working for the good of the Motherland, they fill their pockets. Selling sixes! am
    2. -1
      19 August 2022 18: 31
      Quote from Carlos Sala
      I see a patriot in this man

      Wipe your glasses! hi
  24. -1
    19 August 2022 17: 08
    Infa was recently that in the event of a nuclear conflict, Australia and Argentina will survive .. Maybe it's time for our nuclear submarines to surface there unnoticed and show their presence?
    After all, moneybags from all over the world built bunkers for themselves there, etc.
    And you can also deliver the captured Javelins through third countries to Palestine, etc. The reaction will be immediate and negotiations will be requested immediately
    Russia has nothing to lose, just go to the end ..
  25. -1
    19 August 2022 18: 26
    How these Patrushevs got me out! What have you done to stop all this? Under your nose, the CIA, MI6, Mossad do what they want! Retire if you can't put things in order! am
    1. 0
      20 August 2022 13: 37
      The fact that all the bourgeois and the rest in the country are accustomed to how to host at home is not news.
      But every year it is more difficult for them '- also true ...
    2. +1
      20 August 2022 14: 24
      Another "genius" family. And what a "roof" !!! Go ahead, sweep it away. What kind of "safety" is there ....
  26. +1
    19 August 2022 18: 35
    Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
    It is not even necessary to carry out nationalization now. Somehow they did that metallurgy stood up. So you can make it work again at full power.

    If a society is not capable of fighting traitors and thieves, if everyone in it is corrupt .... then "no matter how friends you sit down, everyone is not good at musicians."

    And then it remains only to surrender to those peoples who do NOT have EVERYTHING GOOD: CHINESE, JAPANESE, KOREANS, AMERICANS ......

    Although everything in this world can be done!! If there is such a thing among the people, such a "utopia", which is called the word "conscience." She can't be replaced by any tricks.
    1. 0
      20 August 2022 13: 44
      Quote: ivan2022
      If there is such a thing among the people, such a "utopia", which is called the word "conscience."

      On the wish of a traffic cop (after receiving a bribe), neither a nail nor a wand, you need to answer - and you have no shame or conscience. wassat
  27. 0
    19 August 2022 19: 29
    I'm glad, damned glad: here Patrushev finally agreed with me.
  28. 0
    19 August 2022 20: 40
    Yes, rather
    I'm tired of this rubber, the rates need to be raised, otherwise they are scammed like a sucker at school, you kind of want a fight, do you want ...? let's exchange blows on the e... face and see who holds the blow
    Now they will say - do you want a nuclear war?
    and the whole West, which makes money on our blood and its own benefit - for some reason it is not afraid of any nuclear war, so maybe in Rzeszow and Stuttgart, let not only ours begin to die, but there we’ll see who is ready to fulfill Article 5 of NATO and substitute their cities for someone left.
    1. 0
      20 August 2022 13: 31
      No gigemon should be neutralized carefully and "carefully". In order not to immediately understand that everything is already ...
  29. +1
    19 August 2022 20: 46
    Quote from Eva Star
    ratio of 1 billion Europeans to 100 million Russians

    And what, in Europe 1 billion?
  30. +1
    19 August 2022 20: 55
    Quote from uyrii
    and a visit to Taiwan and what did the Chinese do????

    We sat down by the river and patiently waited for Russia and the United States to weaken, do we need to tell further?
  31. 0
    19 August 2022 20: 57
    Quote: tihonmarine
    Quote from Pharmacist
    In the rest of Europe, everything depends on the kookies and the mind of the leadership of specific countries.

    Yes, only Europe thinks with the brains of the Anglo-Saxons. Everything else is the same.

    It is immediately clear that when scooping you did not encounter them))
  32. +1
    19 August 2022 21: 00
    Quote: barbiturate
    Yes, rather
    I'm tired of this rubber, the rates need to be raised, otherwise they are scammed like a sucker at school, you kind of want a fight, do you want ...? let's exchange blows on the e... face and see who holds the blow
    Now they will say - do you want a nuclear war?
    and the whole West, which makes money on our blood and its own benefit - for some reason it is not afraid of any nuclear war, so maybe in Rzeszow and Stuttgart, let not only ours begin to die, but there we’ll see who is ready to fulfill Article 5 of NATO and substitute their cities for someone left.

    But our owners of factories do not, altruists, who owns, for example, Kalashnikov? And as for a nuclear war, it's just suicide and the owners of the factories, both here and there, are not in a hurry to go to the next world.
    1. +2
      19 August 2022 21: 15
      Russia is less than a percent of the world economy, and some kind of lousy Kalashnikov factories ... there are not many real owners and they will put small merchants under the knife easily and without even thinking, I generally keep quiet about people, they will be killed by billions and easily.
      I was talking about something else: a Pole sits and eats pizza, watches TV - they kill Russians, a German sits the same way, etc. and everyone thinks - FSUs on these Russians, we supply and supply weapons ... and if we start killing them? Burn Rzeszow like a NATO air base - will the Americans or the Britons rush to launch a nuclear strike on Russia according to the 5th flock, will they expose their cities to total annihilation for Poland? We are now being killed anyway and openly want to divide into parts and openly say that Russia should not exist and the population should be reduced x times ... we are talking about Britain, the USA, the Netherlands ... no. So maybe it's time to raise the stakes, stop scaring us?
  33. 0
    19 August 2022 21: 45
    boltownju prekratit nemedlenno po wsem wragam udarit speczarjadami inacze 1941 ili portartuska pobudka1904 powtoritsa promedlenje smerti podobno eto holodnyj cynicznyj rozcet militarysta-jastreba 3 MW naczalas: "wstawaj strana ogromnaja wstawaj na smertnyj boj z NATOwskoj siloj ogromnoj zproklatuju ordoj znamja pobedy distancjonno- radioopasno postawim w ocean w koordinatach bywszego washingtona
  34. 0
    19 August 2022 22: 03
    Quote from gansales
    Quote: tihonmarine
    They started the war with the hands of the "potheads", then they will launch the Poles, and then everyone else will catch up.

    And they themselves will "lead" across the ocean .. Like America is with you, etc. The United States needs a war and urgently, at the world level .. The main thing is to be in Eurasia again! They have a lot of debt.
    China is being provoked, the same thing is happening in Kosovo, the Finns and Swedes are being set against Russia .. Who else is left? Oh yes, Kazakhstan can again bug Armenia too .. They overlaid Russia with bastards !!!
    Rosja spit kak medwed w berloge i oblozili kak medwedja nado iz berlogi wyjti na dyby wstat rewet i bit bezposcadno poka berloga ne podozgli inacze o medwedju szkuru ohotniki budut ssorirsa
  35. 0
    19 August 2022 22: 22
    Quote: ivan2022
    give to those nations

    nedopustimo wy defetist byliby my wmeste na fronte ja by was sztikom ili specnozom ili saperkojili udawkoj ili rukopaszno prikonczil na was patrona zal na wragow prigoditsa patrony skonczalis ispolzuj trofejnoje oruzje i pripasy aw plen sdajutsa trusy i predateli Stalin byl 100% praw = plennyje= dezertiry Specnaz ne sdajetsa, wraga ne scadit trusow prezirajet plennowo licom k zemle spinu i zatylek moczej uwlazit dozwoleno i bolszu nuzdu isprawit tak ww swoje wremja podczinenym tolkowal
  36. 0
    19 August 2022 22: 34
    Quote from Etwas
    just suicide

    istinnyj soldat dumajet delajet kak Nesterow ili Gastello bezrazliczno pogibnu ili net wazno pobolsze wragow ubit russkije soldaty 1 granatu beregli stob wmeste z oddelenjem wragow pogibnut tak menja Russian instruktory iz Specnaza KBF obuczali dostoinstwo Rosjimniecse wyze
  37. 0
    20 August 2022 00: 04
    Patrushev: The West is preparing to move from a hybrid war with Russia to a real military conflict

    West... . He, this West, in short, was probably frightened, after the statement of his grandfather, whose son is responsible for the All-Russian collective farm, he studied, he knows, In short, the West was most likely frightened, and the Zaporizhzhya NPP would not be hammered, and everything else would not be .... AND..?
    Nothing will be useful from them, there will be voluntary help, volunteers, his son will raise virgin soil .... On ... Yamal. sad It's funny! sad
  38. 0
    20 August 2022 06: 21
    The West is preparing to move from a hybrid war with Russia to a real military conflict

    What a profound insight...
    Yes, they (the West) have been preparing this Nazi state for a war with Russia for two decades and proceeded to active operations immediately after the Crimea left for Russia ...
    From the very first day of the Northern Military District, the Russian army and the NM LDNR have been facing Western assistance, mercenaries, equipment ... For days American satellites transmit information to the Armed Forces of Ukraine and on August 19 we finally realized that the West was preparing to move on to a real military conflict ...
    And what threatens him for real participation, for crossing the red lines? It was necessary to expand NATO to the east - expanded. It was necessary to help the Nazi regime establish its own rules in the country and kill those who disagree - they helped. It was necessary to organize slanderous propaganda, Russophobic hysteria and packages of sanctions against Russia - they organized it. It was necessary to arrest the gold reserves of a sovereign state with nuclear weapons - they arrested them. It was necessary to ban state paraphernalia - they banned it. It was necessary to give instructions on raising the retirement age, - they gave (or is it the GDP personally suffered and thought out over the years by the Russian government headed by DAM ???) ...
    Straight to the text:
    But then they slowly recovered,
    They piled up in a crowd, began to knit hands,
    And in the end, everyone was already amused.
    1. +2
      20 August 2022 13: 20
      Until recently, the elites of the 90s from our country had the hope of being accepted into the world of the happy liberal West ... but "a goose is not a comrade to a pig."
      If the Anglo-Saxons would only hint, if only they would beckon our unrecognized elite, the people and society would no longer be needed. We would have been rolled out by our own elite and the Western bourgeoisie. And different values ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbwould not have saved us!
      But... the bourgeoisie has... greed and arrogance... which is what saves us now. Such are the values ​​of civilizations!
  39. +1
    20 August 2022 08: 04
    Finally woke up. How long did it take to understand where it all leads. At one time they refused to accept the facts. What interestingly made them change their position?
  40. 0
    20 August 2022 08: 38
    Quote: barbiturate
    Russia is less than a percent of the world economy, and some kind of lousy Kalashnikov factories ... there are not many real owners and they will easily put small merchants under the knife. So maybe it's time to raise the stakes, stop scaring us?

    You yourself admit that the moment for inflating the rates is not the best! !
    Because in a society where it is easy for a thief to come to the top and impossible for an honest person, it cannot be otherwise.

    And why?
    Because in our blessed society, an honest person = a half-fool-idealist.
    A thief = authority.

    We stood on that for centuries, we stand "and as one we will die in the struggle for THIS." After all, everything has been going to that for decades, and, as Gorby said, "with acceleration" .....
    1. 0
      20 August 2022 09: 14
      "the union of the indestructible free republics was rallied FOREVER by great Russia" .... ?????
  41. +1
    20 August 2022 10: 18
    He basically said well.
    But we still need to make sure that everyone around the world hears.
    And not only heard, but understood.
    And not only understood, but also took part, decision and action.
    Unfortunately, many countries are weak, economically, in the first place.
    And they are waiting for heavenly mana from the Anglo-Saxons and company.
    Since the leadership of these countries is weak and fixated on their well-being, and not on the people of their country.
    And until Russia and China, as the locomotives of this organization, give them guarantees and confidence in the future, it will be so.
    Yes, the world was built by the Anglo-Saxons, but nothing lasts forever.
    Everything is changing.
    Let's live and see
  42. 0
    20 August 2022 12: 00
    The signal for a real conflict for the West is:
    The absence of a strong, strong-willed leader in Russia;
    Civil confrontation within Russia, the lack of unity of society.
    PS: we are now being tested with economic measures, losses in the Armed Forces, etc. to test the strength of society.
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  44. -2
    20 August 2022 14: 03
    Quote: ada
    And, more precisely, this is one of the results of WWII, during which our country lost a significant number of the active population - the main driving force that formed the PEOPLE, namely, the SOVIET PEOPLE. It's just that the "population" is not even able to protect itself, let alone more.


    Yes, this is sad. And it can be seen in the "population".
    1. +1
      25 August 2022 14: 36
      A population is the habitat of a certain population. And real citizens of the Great Country participate in the NWO. And victory will be ours!
  45. 0
    20 August 2022 19: 49
    It is long overdue to take more decisive measures against the organizers of the military conflict in the Donbass and in general in Ukraine. In response to anti-Russian sanctions and US and NATO military assistance to Bandera in Ukraine, Russia should take its own protective economic sanctions. In particular, to begin a phased reduction in oil and gas supplies to the most rabid Russophobic countries: Poland, the Czech Republic, Romania, France, Germany, Spain, Britain, Greece, i.e. almost all NATO members. Russia's oil will soon run out, the oil itself is not enough, you can immediately close the valve to them. The USA and NATO brazenly stole 300 billion dollars from Russia, so no courts against Russia will be trampled. Moreover, almost everyone in the EU is shouting about the rejection of Russian energy carriers. The flag is in their hands. Without gas, without fuel, without heat, without electricity, the brutalized people will knock their heads off their unfortunate rulers in the EU! With Bandera even easier. What kind of trade cooperation can there be with the murderers of the Russian-speaking civilian population, the murderers of Russian citizens?! It is necessary to declare a complete embargo on trade with the independent, including on the transportation of gas through Ukraine. So the Ukrainian people and declare until they remove the Nazis from power in Ukraine, there will be no trade with Ukrainian bandits.
  46. 0
    20 August 2022 23: 07
    America discovered. Hollywood films show the end of the world a million times and what of it. It's just that the X-Mutants are bored. There are a lot of them on earth, so we are waiting for a meteorite like with dinosaurs. Only human worms will survive.
  47. 0
    21 August 2022 12: 15
    Il n'y a pas de risque de nouveau Tchernobyl à Zaporojie.
    C'était des artilleurs natostants qui étaient aux manettes, les missiles de "haute précision" US tirés, tombaient à 400 mètres de la centrale, et vu les cratères des impacts, c'étaient de faibles charges.
    L'objectif était que l'AIEA de l'ONU soit mandatée par les anglo-saxon-sionistes pour une inspection.
    The report is already foreseeable, it will be Russia which will have bombed the sector.
    Despite the vetoes of Moscow and Beijing, there will be an attempt to deploy blue helmets, and of course these forces will be western minions.
    Ce qui bloquerait l'avancée des libérateurs en direction d'Odessa et de la Transnistrie.
    A mon avis l'axe sino-russe n'acceptera jamais ce plan foireux.
  48. 0
    21 August 2022 17: 48
    It is high time to introduce the rating of unfriendly countries. Divide countries into, say, 5 categories. Category 1 - frankly friendly countries. Now it will be some African countries and countries of the 3rd world. Trade with them to carry out with price bonuses. Then conditionally friendly, neutral, conditionally not friendly and not friendly. And conduct all trading with them exclusively with the coefficient of this rating. Don't threaten, don't rattle with an army... Just raise prices. .. Or omit, for those who quickly grow wiser.
  49. 0
    22 August 2022 07: 21
    in the event of a nuclear disaster at the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, provoked by the criminal behavior of Kyiv, "it is Washington, London and their henchmen who will be responsible for it."
    Will we strike them with nuclear weapons or will they pay for the restoration and the costs of eliminating the accident? They do not pay attention to those red lines that our leadership draws.
    Patrushev also spoke about the causes of the COVID-19 epidemic, in the emergence of which he does not exclude the role of the United States
    The infection created in the United States was unanimously spread around the world, just as amicably they started a vaccination campaign, which was curtailed at the beginning of the NWO, now they are spinning it again in a new way, i.e. Is Russia still in the trend of global restructuring, and is the NWO a part of it?
  50. +1
    25 August 2022 14: 33
    Good news again! It must be admitted that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are a strong adversary. And when we add them (and this is unambiguous), then everything will go much easier and faster. All these brave Poles, brave fighting Estonians and other Danes will scatter at the first strike of the MLRS. We can be stopped only by WMD, but then let no one be offended that there, too, payments will remain unpaid, and dividends - unpaid. Too bad Lizka Strass doesn't know about it.
  51. 0
    25 August 2022 14: 40
    Quote: Vladimir Nizhegorodsky
    Yes, the world was destroyed by the Anglo-Saxons, but nothing lasts forever

    Amazing! You will probably be amazed, but the Anglo-Saxons appeared 5000 years after gunpowder had already been invented, the laws of algebra had been discovered, and life was in full swing in Damascus.