“This is self-defense”: the United States allowed Kyiv to use American weapons to strike at Crimea

The Americans have nothing against the use by Kyiv of the US-supplied weapons for strikes on the territory of the Crimea. According to a senior White House official, Crimea is "part of Ukraine."

According to the newspaper Politico, the United States allows the use of American weapons for strikes in the Crimea, as it believes that all the actions of the Ukrainian army are "self-defense". In addition, Washington is confident that Crimea is part of Ukraine, and Kyiv can do whatever it wants on "its own territory". The White House also said that the Americans do not take part in the conflict and do not choose targets for defeat.

We don't select targets, of course, and all we have provided is for self-defense missions. Any target they decide to choose on sovereign Ukrainian territory is by definition a target in self-defense (...) Crimea is Ukraine

- said a senior American official.

In Ukraine, such a statement by the representative of the White House was clearly delighted, since the main "sponsor" of the Zelensky regime officially gave permission to use American weapons for strikes in Crimea, although Washington had previously stated the opposite. Meanwhile, the first statements about the peninsula have already been made in the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine. In particular, the Minister of Defense of Ukraine Oleksiy Reznikov, appointed to this position because of his ability to "negotiate", but who does not understand anything in military affairs, announced the readiness of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to use American weapons on the peninsula. True, he did not go into details.

It is worth noting that the American official, saying that the United States does not decide on targets for strikes, is, to put it mildly, a lie. Recently, an adviser to the head of Zelensky's office, Aleksey Arestovich, speaking about the possibility of a strike on the Crimean bridge, said that everything depends on the team from Washington. If the Americans give the command, then the Armed Forces of Ukraine will strike, and if not, then Kyiv has "many other goals."

Comments

[Prax1]

But don't such strikes fall under the nuclear doctrine of the Russian Federation. Crimea is still part of Russia.

[neworange88]

Yesterday they already attacked Crimea with the help of drones.

“This is self-defense”: the United States allowed Kyiv to use American weapons to strike at Crimea

But I wonder if we will pretend here that nothing is happening and everything is going according to plan? There are a lot of vacationers from all over the country in Crimea now. The head should be immediately torn off even for any sideways glance towards the Crimea. The adversary becomes impudent not by the day, but by the hour. And we do not cut anything hard. Although what am I talking about if we cannot give an adequate answer even when they are hitting the ZNPP and trying to disable the Kursk nuclear power plant, provoking a new Chernobyl on our territory. The West may have serious doubts about our ability to use nuclear weapons due to the indecision we showed during the NWO . With our peacefulness, we ourselves will provoke the West to aggression towards us. Seeing everything that is happening now, he may well think that we are a paper tiger. The West will simply stop believing in our determination and consider that we will not dare to press the red button if something happens. That is the main danger.

[poquello]

Quote from: neworange88

Yesterday they already attacked Crimea with the help of drones.

“This is self-defense”: the United States allowed Kyiv to use American weapons to strike at Crimea

But I wonder if we will pretend here that nothing is happening and everything is going according to plan? There are a lot of vacationers from all over the country in Crimea now. The head must immediately be opened even for any sideways glance towards the Crimea. The adversary becomes impudent not by the day, but by the hour. And we do not cut anything hard. Although what am I talking about if we cannot give an adequate answer even when they are hitting the Zaporizhzhya NPP and trying to disable the Kursk NPP.

Well, for starters, there are options, the "Syrians" can erase American bases on their territory

[Imperium_Aeterna]

can...

They can, but they won't do anything. Six months have passed since then. There were no intelligible answers from the Ministry of Defense regarding the "Decision Making Centers". Zelya and all his entourage are alive and well.

Attacks on US bases in the current situation are generally somewhere in the realm of fantasy. Once again, morning snot.

[MARGADON]

It's time to aim at Khreshchatyk and Bankova.

[Imperium_Aeterna]

It's time ...

It was time to do it 5 months ago - at the end of March.
You know, this is already becoming interesting - when it comes to our leadership that any sideways glance in our direction must be answered tenfold.
We apparently have a bet that the Ukrainians will get tired of fighting and they will all surrender themselves.

[Rudkovsky]

that any sideways glance in our direction must be answered tenfold.

Everyone can play this game. What prevents the United States from planting a thousand or two 155-caliber howitzers in Ukraine at once? You will then squeal loudly when Donetsk will be turned into Mariupol and the guilty ones will be looked for THERE.

[Imperium_Aeterna]

The lack of an extra thousand 155 caliber howitzers interferes.
As far as I remember, the United States has a total of 1000-1100.

[Vadim237]

They have only Paladins in storage and in the troops, starting from modification A3 to A 7 thousand 5 - 6 more M 198 fucking tuev and 155mm shells are millions of pieces.

[Negro]

Quote: Vadim237

Paladins in storage and in the army, starting from modification A3 to A 7 thousand 5 - 6 more M 198 fucking tuev and 155mm shells millions of pieces

You are still exaggerating. Paladins were actively sold, M198 were given away. There are a few hundred of course, but not thousands.

The most incomprehensible situation with shells. The old ones were actively disposed of, but new ones were not made in quantities "for the third world war." Haven't seen a single review on stock status, but new production is very, very moderate, literally the first thousand pieces a year. But this is in America, otherwise 155mm produces half the world, if not the whole (China produces for export, even the Russian Federation depicted something in this caliber at exhibitions). Again, you have to look, work.

[Rudkovsky]

You remember very wrong, they have thousands of old howitzers from the Cold War. And the condition is excellent, there is a beautiful dry desert for storing this junk.

[Negro]

Quote from: Imperium_Aeterna

United States of them total in the amount of 1000-1100

These are new in service, only towed, excluding self-propelled guns. But there is still a lot of junk from the Vietnam era.

[The black]

There have already been attacks on the Crimea, attacks on other border regions (Kursk, Belgorod, Rostov, etc.) too. My question is: where is the red line, the crossing of which will be the reason for striking at the "decision-making centers?"

[AdAstra]

I sometimes get the impression that this red line is somewhere in my own office ... Because I have no other explanations for what I see.

[Imperium_Aeterna]

My question is: where is the red line, the crossing of which will be the reason for striking at the "decision-making centers?"

The answer is prosaic - it is not. Even if the Kremlin wall is demolished, we will hang it with a plastic awning and write "planned work" on top.
Any capable state would have already smashed everything and everything for this. Well, for example, Israel, no matter how anyone treats it, as a state it acts correctly.

[laws70]

My question is: where is the red line, the crossing of which will be the reason for striking at the "decision-making centers?"

Apparently somewhere in Moscow.

[Grits]

Quote: Black

My question is: where is the red line, the crossing of which will be the reason for striking at the "decision-making centers?"

Kremlin wall

[Harald]

Voice from Germany: I think we should respond to the latest attacks on power lines and substations with similar attacks in Ukraine. I support the opinion of Yuriy Podolyaka, who calls for stopping the supply of electricity from Ukrainian power plants to neighboring countries. Before that, this should be announced and justified in the media, through ultimatums from the Russian Foreign Ministry and Russian embassies. This would lead to a reaction towards Ukraine.

[hector]

Quote: Black

My question is: where is the red line, the crossing of which will be the reason for striking at the "decision-making centers?"

This "red line" is similar to the ribbon with which rhythmic gymnasts dance.

[Frost]

Quote: poquello

"Syrians" can erase American bases on their territory

General of the Army, Minister of Defense, Hero of the Russian Federation, Commander of the Order of the Holy Apostle Andrew the First-Called with swords S.K. Shoigu said in March that "16 trained volunteers from the Middle East want to voluntarily take part in the Special Military Operation." You can't spend such a valuable resource on American bases, they still have to storm Kharkov and Nikolaev.

[Grits]

Quote: Hoarfrost

Sergei Shoigu said in March that "16 trained volunteers from the Middle East want to voluntarily take part in the Special Military Operation."

And they also talked about tens of thousands of North Korean special forces. Only there is neither one nor the other. And our small forces are still trampling near Donetsk for half a year.
Thus begins the sunset of the glory of the "second army of the world" ...

[neworange88]

Quote: poquello

Quote from: neworange88

Yesterday they already attacked Crimea with the help of drones.

“This is self-defense”: the United States allowed Kyiv to use American weapons to strike at Crimea

But I wonder if we will pretend here that nothing is happening and everything is going according to plan? There are a lot of vacationers from all over the country in Crimea now. The head must immediately be opened even for any sideways glance towards the Crimea. The adversary becomes impudent not by the day, but by the hour. And we do not cut anything hard. Although what am I talking about if we cannot give an adequate answer even when they are hitting the Zaporizhzhya NPP and trying to disable the Kursk NPP.

Well, for starters, there are options, the "Syrians" can erase American bases on their territory

Why do we need American bases in Syria? The NVO is in Ukraine and the answer must be given precisely in this theater of operations, because it is from there that the threat comes to us. The threat to Crimea and other areas bordering Ukraine. And it must be given an adequate the answer is, until they arrange a new Chernobyl for us. Stop playing pretty, we won’t be like that for anyone anyway, Western propaganda has fashioned enemies out of us over the years, that’s it, we’ve passed. Our goodness plays against us. Kiev feels safe and does what he wants because he knows that he can get away with anything.

[donavi49]

Depending on what you mean by erase. Release a package of 106 mm rockets and declare the destruction of the devil's nest - yes. Like in Iraq and then savor the leakage of a psychologist's visit log for a year. If you seriously besiege the base, kill 50+ Americans, then the latter will no longer have a choice - they will play the reverse card, the new Pearl Harbor, with all their might and without restrictions, the government army will end quickly, with a big question about Khmeimim and Tartus, where of course there will be no direct attack, but life there will be dramatically complicated.

[Negro]

Quote: donavi49

where of course there will be no direct attack,

Do you believe so implicitly in Biden's peacefulness? And what if some other people start slipping papers to the grandfather to sign?

[donavi49]

If you make a full-fledged Storm in the Desert - Syria, that is, with a concentration of a thousand aircraft, AUGs, the transfer of 100-200k contingents to Jordan + attracting Turkey in exchange for the ancestral northern lands, from where the Ottomans came as a great empire, and the army will roll into dust, then it makes no sense to level the bases of the RF Armed Forces. They can be survived by a soft siege and blockade, since in fact the Russian territory = the perimeter of the base, but behind it is the occupation / new Syria.

[Negro]

Quote: donavi49

If you arrange a Storm in the Desert - Syria fully, that is, with a concentration of a thousand aircraft

Where does this Bolshevism come from? No one out there wants Desert Storm. And if there is a decision, so to speak, to help with the withdrawal of troops - how many years has Putin been withdrawing troops from there? - the grouping of allies in the area is more than enough.

[donavi49]

Well, I was responding to the scenario, Assad's troops openly, fully and successfully smash a US base to dust in Syria, with a bunch of dead American soldiers. The US will have no choice here.

[Negro]

An attempt to approach the US base (what kind of base is there, just located in the industrial complex) on the wrong bank of the Euphrates last time is known how it ended. So this is empty talk.

[Aleks2048]

But I wonder if we will pretend here that nothing is happening and everything is going according to plan?

And why is Crimea better than Belgodskaya Oblast? Why am I raising a fuss because of him? Moreover, during the annexation of Crimea, so many words were said that this would move NATO away from the Russian Federation and would be a buffer. And now we will apply this to the performance of the Uryakls, who are not carrying out the NWO, but directly fighting, they are defeating the collective West. So then, in general, apparently everything is fine with us, the enemy spends ammunition in the buffer zone. Everything as many dreamed of. Or is it not good again?

[Aitvaras]

There were no attacks by the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Crimea. They are not there. This is all careless handling of explosives or other gross violations. For example. the sentry at the post is forbidden to perform natural needs, drink, smoke, etc. Smoking is harmful to health and a drop of nicotine kills a healthy horse.

[Grits]

Quote: Aitvaras

The negligent guards sailor on the twice red banner cruiser "Moskva" smoked and the Russian ship with a valiant crew proudly set off in the right direction.

Do you still believe in such heresy?

[RED_ICE]

If we don't answer, then we can't. Trumps are probably over.

[Mikhail Zhikharev]

And then the question is, was it necessary to start all this? Did they scout well, calculated? How did our "decision centers" work??

[RED_ICE]

The President said that the NVO prevented Ukraine's attack on Russia

[Sergey Trunoff]

And more specifically?

[Aleks2048]

But don't such strikes fall under the nuclear doctrine of the Russian Federation.

Of course not. The doctrine is not written to be used everywhere as a plug.

[Dilettante grandfather]

Haven't strikes been carried out on our territory yet? And in response - silence. At best, they are loud statements that are not supported by deeds.

[iouris]

Quote: Prax1

Are these blows...

They do (I think so). This is an escalation. Escalation is a consequence of the fact that the enemy (USA) found a weakness and began to put pressure.
Things can go too far (from where they do not return).

[Sergey Trunoff]

For some reason, only Russia thinks so. Even ally Belarus did not recognize Crimea as Russian.

[bouncyhunter]

Americans do not take part in the conflict and do not choose targets for destruction

Whose cow would be lowing, and the mattress one would be silent! Liars and hypocrites!

[Frost]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Whose cow would be lowing, and the mattress one would be silent!

The United States does not really take part, the dill did not receive a single American self-propelled gun, tank or aircraft.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Hoarfrost

The United States does not really take part

Yes of course . They just supply weapons and send mercenaries, but that doesn’t count.

[Alexandr2637]

Crimea is "part of Ukraine

And Alaska is primordially Russian land. Well, how?

[novel66]

Well, they sold it! why is it ours? Was the item returned? no.

[Egg]

Quote: novel xnumx

Well, they sold it! why is it ours? Was the item returned? no.

in general, Alaska was leased for 100 years, the lease ended long ago, it is high time to demand Alaska back.

[RostislavPushkarevVladimirovich]

Unfortunately, I also thought so that they rented it out, but it turned out to be rumors that Alaska was actually sold.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B0_%D0%90%D0%BB%D1%8F%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8

https://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BE_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B5_%D0%90%D0%BB%D1%8F%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8

[Egg]

Quote: Rostislav Pushkarev Vladimirovich

Unfortunately, I also thought so that they rented it out, but it turned out to be rumors that Alaska was actually sold.

Yes, I know, but still, I like this version more

[Plate]

Even Russia does not consider Alaska a part of Russia.

[Arkady007]

Well, if yesterday's bulges in Kerch and Sevastopol are the beginning of their application, the answer should be no less than in Kyiv and its bridges.

[donavi49]

There is an opinion that yesterday they illuminated the air defense, letting in all sorts of rubbish, like Reis.

[Arkady007]

Quite acceptable. Then they will start throwing the Point and something else, and in a week you can start Himarsy.

[rocket757]

“This is self-defense”: the United States allowed Kyiv to use American weapons to strike at Crimea

Few doubted that this would happen ... it would probably become even tougher, more tragic, more dangerous.

[Egoza]

Quote: rocket757

will probably become even tougher, more tragic, more dangerous.

It was not for nothing that Zelya and Co. said that in August there would be many unexpected unpleasant surprises for Russia. Here we get it!!!

[rocket757]

Surprises are exactly where we have some flaws, there are jambs.
Unfortunately, there are, for various reasons.

[Grits]

Quote: rocket757

Few doubted that this would happen ... it would probably become even tougher, more tragic, more dangerous.

If the boy does not respond to slaps in the face, then they begin to gradually smack him

[rocket757]

Tired of talking about it...
The giraffe is big and he doesn’t report down what he decided there ... and it’s pointless to listen to the cries of the “parrots”, ass he always and everywhere bangs his head against the repeating wall.

[Paul Siebert]

Regarding the "commands from Washington," military observer Alexander Sladkov wrote well in his cart today:

A couple of times I participated in an adventure game in the Ford Boyard fortress. When we first moored to this man-made island, I saw all these stone nooks, casemates, a huge copper gong, dwarfs, and so on. And then he got to the "central post" of Boyard.

I saw a giant director's console with many screens. And I was stunned: all these "adventures" were managed by the directors of the game.

Even a knight's sword, stuck in a stump, which I pulled in the form of tests, was controlled remotely. I pulled it out only when the director pressed the button and released it.

I experienced shock. All the intensity of the struggle, all the victories and failures of individual participants and entire teams took place exclusively at the command of a hairy man in jeans and a greasy T-shirt.

Everything is the same in Ukraine. "Ammunition Diet" is an American term. All actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Ukrainian national battalions take place at the wave of the "magic wand of the Yankees."

And Europe, the fool, also dances and freezes exclusively on command. Only this is no longer a game, this is the manipulation of 37 million lives of Ukraine conquered by the West.

The “ammunition diet” of the Armed Forces of Ukraine comes not because there is no ammunition. This is what London and Washington want. So they need it. Only stupid people talk about "defending the Motherland from the Russians". The Russian army is going to liberate Ukraine, and the “ammunition diet” is not terrible, let the Ukrainians think about the gas shortage, about the arable land sold to the West, about their Motherland, turned by Zelensky and his masters into a training ground.

We will release you.

[Vladimir Nizhegorodsky]

A good example from Sladkov, not only reports, but information and food for thought.
And thank you very much for citing his text here as an example.
Thank you

[Negro]

For eight years and six months, Ukrainians have been unable to deal with the supply of shells of the most common caliber in the world, and Washington is again to blame. Clearly understood.

[Ru_Na]

Well, who would have doubted. The Americans are well aware that this will only lead to a further escalation of the conflict, a war to the last Ukrainian, as Washington decided.

[Heaven]

Quote: Prax1

But don't such strikes fall under the nuclear doctrine of the Russian Federation. Crimea is still part of Russia.

Beat not only in the Crimea. They also hit Kursk and Belgorod regions. I don’t think that at the same time, Ukrainians are closely monitoring the country of production of the projectile, mine, drone, explosives, etc. So, can you tell yesterday the warehouse in Belgorod by what specific weapon, whose production was attacked?

[Chronos]

Yes, what to say. The fact of an attack on a checkpoint in the Kursk region with the help of an American-made kamikaze drone has been documented. Another week ago. All these words are hypocrisy. ATAMCS, if installed, can launch the same Kursk from a British installation. The British did not make any restrictions at all.

[kor1vet1974]

"Abdullah, customs gives the go-ahead!" (C)

[mojohed2012]

It's time for groups "interested in the evacuation of all US forces in Syria" to transfer weapons to US bases in Syria and Iraq. It's time to allow North Korea to realize everything they have been preparing for all these years - to give them missiles and nuclear warheads to strike at US and NATO bases.
Give the Houthis the means to hit the US and NATO ship groups off the coast.
Where are the Poseidons? It's time for combat duty off the coast of the United States and Britain!

[Zaurbek]

It's time to at least start publishing accurate maps with the coordinates of their military installations.
And supply their opponents with such drones.

[Vladimir Nizhegorodsky]

Quite a real, reciprocal move

[valentine light]

"Poseidons", where they should be :)

Russia has done a lot in Syria, the main thing is that the Victorious Combat Army has been created, and not everything has been completed there yet, since the Americans illegally hold the territory of Syria.
It is impossible to "give" a weapon that can upset the amers without preparing the personnel.
What happens when the weapon is modern, and the "lads" are the same, we observe in "Ukraine". :))
The Houthis are not our problem, but the Saudis, who are starting negotiations with us on interactions.

[ISKANDER_61]

Isn't it time to blurt out across the states so that blacks turn white and whites turn black.
Tired of listening to it.

[Uprun]

The striped the other day did not understand the "gesture of good will" - the flight of our aircraft over the base in Syria, oh, they did not understand ....

[valentine light]

The United States is a party to the conflict and will not get past trouble.
When God wants to punish, he deprives him of reason - all the latest actions of the United States are not from the mind, even a visit to Taiwan.
A good Russia-China-Iran alliance is being created.

But working with "Ukraine" at half strength and "humanitarian" we risk!

One is already a big plus - our troops got acquainted with the tactics and weapons of NATO and what is not old and how and how to suppress it!
But knowing that from some point they will inflict an artillery strike on the nuclear power plant and regret it, this is more dangerous, all the more it is already clear that they will blame everything anyway.

[Pulkovo1942]

When God wants to punish, then deprives the mind - all the latest actions of the United States are not from the mind

Punish? During the wars, the US stock market has always been positive. Is this not the blessing of the Lord? Escaping from the arms of Morpheus, if I were the US political elites, I would have chanted: "Glory to Russia, China, Iran, present and future enemies! God bless them forever and ever!"

[valentine light]

And why do you think that the material wealth of the United States is from God?

[Zaurbek]

And what weapons were placed? Which flies to the Crimea?

[novel66]

harpoon from Odessa, I just don’t know if he is able to work on the ground

[Negro]

The harpoon is able to work on the ground, but it won't get it from Odessa. Theoretically, an aircraft with AGM-88 could approach. The Ukrainians say that these are not rockets, but saboteurs with drones. It is difficult to say whether it is true or not, the version with saboteurs is objectively beneficial for Ukraine: spy mania and hunting for partisans always cost the attacked side dearly, often more than the actual damage from the partisans. What could reach Kerch there is generally incomprehensible.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Zaurbek

And what weapons were placed? Which flies to the Crimea?

If they give "go-ahead", then they put such a weapon (it has already flashed in the press).

[GAndr]

I wonder how long we will chew snot? Tired of chatter and half-measures...
When will our leadership have the political will to fulfill their promises about the red lines?

[svp67]

August 24 in Ukraine "Independence Day", waiting for various "events"

[Raven 95]

Will there be an answer from the Kremlin? Not from the Foreign Ministry, but from the Kremlin?
Hey, is there anyone there?

[Moore]

It would be naive to assume that the gun suspended on the wall will not fire during the performance.
I believe that the options for strikes against the Crimea were calculated. But any plans can be broken by the creativity and initiative of the hands-on. This must always be remembered.

[Mouse]

As I understand it ... the states decided that the fire was weak, then it's time to throw poles .......

[fuel oil]

So that we do not write together and angrily here, while we are just wiping ourselves from "spitting in our direction" ... Business on the blood of Russian, Ukrainian blooms in full bloom.

[tihonmarine]

The Americans have nothing against the use by Kyiv of supplied US-supplied weapons to strike at the territory of Crimea. "It's self defense"

Well, it means that the Americans gave the go-ahead for the use of weapons by Russia on the territory of Ukraine, including Kyiv. This is self-defense.

[Negro]

Quote: tihonmarine

Well, that means the Americans gave the go-ahead for Russia to use weapons on the territory of Ukraine, including Kyiv

Just given now? Some of them are sleepy.

[tralflot1832]

Since such a play on words has begun, it’s time to tell the commander of the Russian Strategic Missile Forces before the weekend. The Strategic Missile Forces considers Crimea to be Russian, and the US opinion based on the rules is not legal. Protecting Russia for the Strategic Missile Forces is a routine job. And let Lavrov rest. The weekend is on the nose.

[valentine light]

Only adherence to principles will force these oligophrenics not to do evil to Russia.
MILITARY DOCTRINE ALLOWS A FORCE RESPONSE FOR ATTACK
TO OUR FAMILY.

[Emergency]

"The Americans have nothing against Kyiv's use of US-supplied weapons to strike at the territory of Crimea. As a senior White House official said, Crimea is "part of Ukraine." (c) The Russians have nothing against the use of weapons by Washington in the state of Texas (for example), since Texas is part of the United States. Do these idiots hear themselves when they talk?

[Torp20]

If you tell your mothers, children, wives that you wish them dead and what will they answer you?

[tralflot1832]

Judging by the article in the NYT about our nuclear response a month ago, they are very afraid of this. Even the option of surrender is being considered, but let's live together. Oh, this Europe with Ukraine.

[Rage66]

Ukroshavka was given the command to...

[Vasyan1971]

Washington is confident that Crimea is part of Ukraine, and Kyiv can do whatever it wants on "its own territory".

So Kuev did what he wanted. I had to start...

[Vita vko]

As the experience of the escalation of conflicts involving the United States shows, only the threat of a nuclear strike can sober up "strategists" in Washington.
Therefore, it is not surprising that soon the Armed Forces of Ukraine will receive from Washington not only long-range missiles, but also nuclear weapons.

[kriten]

Crimea is not Kyiv - you can bomb it. Here Kyiv Lvov is impossible - there are brothers of our power?

[sniperino]

Quote: kriten

Crimea is not Kyiv - you can bomb it. Here Kyiv Lvov is impossible - there are brothers of our power?

Did you, by any chance, swap the vowels in your nickname?

[iouris]

The United States will (already are) delivering strikes on the territory of the Russian Federation, including on nuclear facilities. Well?

[dimbasic]

meaning the Syrians can hit the Amer occupying forces in Syria, because this is self-defense

[Shamil88]

In the border regions, it is also a matter of time, aviation will have to be redeployed all in depth, and so the meager use of the airborne forces will become even less if long-range missiles are given to Himars, Chernigov Kharkov and Sumy regions will have to be completely liberated, but where to get the strength?

[Heaven]

Where does this constant nonsense come from, that sooner or later the ukrams will be given nuclear weapons? This will never happen. No one in the world wants a nuclear war, not even the hard-nosed North Koreans. In the worst case, they will give aviation and long-range missiles.

[kill the fascist]

In response, "supplied" Iskanders to the Syrian military for strikes against American troops / bases - this will be real self-defense.

[Negro]

Quote: Kill the fascist

In response, "supplied" Iskanders to the Syrian military for strikes against American troops / bases

And where did you get the idea that in Syria there are those who want to go to the houris?

[Tagan]

Quote: Prax1

But don't such strikes fall under the nuclear doctrine of the Russian Federation. Crimea is still part of Russia.

Have you ever read this doctrine? I mean terms and conditions.

[Dikson]

"Now in the Kherson region we are at war with regular units of the Polish army. Officially, this is not advertised, but we are actually at war with NATO, since Poland is a member of the alliance .." - Deputy of the State Duma of the Russian Federation, ex-Prime Minister of the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR ) Alexander Boroday. Well, somehow like this .. Can you believe the deputy of the State Duma? This revelation appeared in the Yandex news feed today .. And if this is true, then what is there about concerns or other upsets? .. And if we are really fighting with the regular Polish army already, and not with mercenaries, why didn’t Poland?

[Negro]

Quote: Dikson

Can you trust the deputy of the State Duma?

This is a rhetorical question, I hope?

[Repellent]

Quote: Negro

This is a rhetorical question, I hope?

Mdja ...

Quote: Negro

You also need to know how to troll

You know ... I agree, I just don’t understand why you haven’t killed yourself yet, upstenu

[Cheshirskicat]

It’s interesting, if we assume, purely hypothetically, that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will hit the Crimean bridge, I don’t believe in this probability, but still, our reaction will be again - we’ll get lost and say that we can’t be like them and strike at the same Lvov?

[Negro]

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can't we be like them and strike at the same Lvov?

Are you sure that there were no strikes on Lviv?

[Cheshirskicat]

Such that they would become thoughtful, but is it worth looking at the Crimea? Sure. Because if it happened, all of Europe and staff members would already show the destroyed quarters and scream about the cruelty of the Russians

[Negro]

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would show destroyed neighborhoods and yell about Russian cruelty

Oh, you're talking about it. Such a blow would have three consequences.
1. You will spend on nonsense a conditionally monthly limit of cruise missiles, which are now used to put pressure on the Ukrainian rear. They are used on a much larger scale than the Ukrainian side can (yet) afford.
2. The West will speed up the decision on air defense systems.
3. Rybinsk, Yaroslavl region, and Votkinsk, Udmurtia. What do you think of these cities?

And generally speaking, why the hell do you need Lvov? Kharkiv is much more convenient from this point of view. As well as Slavyansk, Nikopol, Nikolaev, Zaporozhye, Krivoy Rog, etc.

[Terenin]

We don't select targets, of course, and all we have provided is for self-defense missions.

Shake the vial of white powder to complete the picture.

[evgen1221]

Oh yes, who would have doubted that. But this is also stopped - a strike by the Allied Forces on the territory of the Russian Federation with NATO weapons and we automatically recognize the Balts of the Poles and who else there distinguished themselves as a party to the conflict. And what follows after this, the commander-in-chief spoke very clearly on February 24 and for the stupid.

[Negro]

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And what follows

And what, in fact, follows this?

[evgen1221]

Are you really stupid? Oh, correction-Europeans?

[Negro]

Your level of foreign policy analytics is understandable.

[boris]

Well, if a high-ranking American official puts
If so, then other questions can be asked. Isn't it time
return the North American colonies to British rule
crowns? In addition, the leaders of the rebels (the owner of the White
houses, senators, congressmen, state governors)
shackled and sent to Australia for life
hard labor.

[Negro]

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other questions can be asked. Isn't it time
return the North American colonies to British rule
crowns?

Volodin already said something about Alaska.

Are you short on clowning?

[tsvetahaki]

... then other questions can be raised.

You can put different questions, you can also about the expulsion of this country beyond the borders of our Galaxy, but here it is...

[Pastor]

They want to keep Zelya alive. We need to save it. Let them themselves stage a revolt and behead the state, than we will do this and give one more reason to unite.

[Sergey Trunoff]

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I wonder how long we will chew snot? Tired of chatter and half-measures...
When will our leadership have the political will to fulfill their promises about the red lines?

Do not mistake rhetoric for strategy. These are different things. Politicians can afford to say whatever they want, knowing that they will not get anything for talking. Usual populism.

[IVZ]

They have become insolent from impunity and will not stop there. Until some aircraft carrier shows the keel.

[Tiheros]

If they gave the green light to this, then things are really bad.

[Sergey Zhikharev]

Do not quite understand.
Ukraine considers Crimea Ukrainian, which means it is self-defense
And if tomorrow Ukraine will consider (and the United States will support) that the Kuban and the Amur are Ukraine?
Or the Japanese with chickens

[evgen1221]

Well then, it’s definitely kirdy for both the Japanese and Europe and the Sumerians, so that they don’t flicker under their feet.

[tsvetahaki]

Do not quite understand.

What is there not to understand?
It's not about what and who considers theirs.
It's up to us. How quickly the "red lines" will adjust to someone else's opinion.

[tsvetahaki]

We urgently need to shift the red lines so that these decisions do not cross them.
In general, the policy is clear - why immediately shout and demand, carefully probe and push back our "lines" according to the principle "one grain-heap?". Well, they added one more "grain" - a lot has not changed much, why react.
To train the Ukrov army, to saturate it with weapons - fortunately, time allows, in a couple of years you can definitely teach how to use the most modern weapons.
Here's just one thing - it costs a lot of money ... But the allocated billions may be enough ...

[TatarinSSSR]

We have the coolest defense of the Crimea from the Hymars in the form of Aksenov, who is armed with a powerful phrase "Just try and hit the decision-making centers!". And in general, the whole of Russia is protected from missile attacks by the formidable Ukrotroop Dzhabarov with his exact same phrase.