The Pentagon secretly handed over air-launched anti-radar missiles to Kyiv

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The US continues to "pump up" the Armed Forces weaponsaggravating and prolonging the conflict in Ukraine. At the same time, as it turned out, weapons officially announced by Washington are not always delivered to Kyiv.

Thus, the Pentagon, without any publicity, handed over high-speed missiles to Kyiv to destroy radars. This became known at the beginning of this month thanks to Russian bloggers. They found fragments and fragments of the AGM-88 HARM at the site of the defeat of the Russian air defense system.



It is worth noting that information from bloggers could be considered unreliable, as is often the case. However, a little later, the Pentagon confirmed the fact of deliveries of AGM-88 HARM to Ukraine.

Recall that the aforementioned high-speed anti-radar missiles are designed to destroy air defense systems, as well as anti-battery radars. The ammunition is equipped with a homing head that reacts to radar radiation.

Commenting on the supply of AGM-88 HARM missiles to Kyiv, the deputy head of the Pentagon stressed that the ammunition was transferred to Ukraine not as part of the last package, but earlier. At the same time, he did not talk about the number of missiles delivered to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, only specifying that this weapon is intended for air launch.

Thus, it is likely that the batch of anti-radar missiles delivered to Ukraine was previously modernized for use on board by Soviet-style fighters. But Ukraine has few of them left. Earlier, Eastern European partners promised to supply their MiGs.

It is worth adding that the Business Insider portal, which raised this topic, is confident in the short-term effect of such supplies. Experts believe that the Russian army quickly adapts to new conditions, so the advantage of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, due to the use of the AGM-88 HARM, will not last long and will not have a serious impact on the course of hostilities.
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  1. -7
    18 August 2022 15: 29
    In this news, the only good thing is that there is practically nothing to base in the air at the Ukroreich))
    1. +9
      18 August 2022 15: 37
      First, there is still something. Planes crash fairly regularly. And secondly, the adaptation of air-to-air missiles to the ground, albeit with a loss of range, is quite common. They will launch not from 300, but from 70 ....
      1. -5
        18 August 2022 15: 44
        Quote: ian
        Will launch

        ) have already launched, they can throw out their missiles - therefore, they are silent, because they shoot them down without problems
        1. +6
          18 August 2022 15: 58
          Quote: poquello
          they can throw out their missiles - therefore they are silent, because they shoot them down without problems

          It remains to teach the personnel not to smoke anywhere, and there will be no problems at all.
          1. +2
            18 August 2022 16: 29
            Quote: military_cat
            Quote: poquello
            they can throw out their missiles - therefore they are silent, because they shoot them down without problems

            It remains to teach the personnel not to smoke anywhere, and there will be no problems at all.

            exactly, exactly, and she flew to the headquarters in Sevastopol
            1. +1
              18 August 2022 19: 26
              Both Russia and NATO are testing weapons.
              Both the suitability of the old and the newest.
              Of course, it is necessary to record the crimes of those who supply the Nazis in order to ask later for the death of every Russian soldier and civilian in Donbass.
              But you also need to take advantage. Look for ways to counter Western weapons.
            2. -3
              18 August 2022 20: 46
              ... therefore, the advantage of the APU ....

              laughing - "advantage")) Laughter and more!
              THIS is an advantage:
              https://tvzvezda.ru/schedule/programs/201412231323-1cpc.htm/20225132226-bTeeT.html
              1. -2
                19 August 2022 09: 41
                The rocket is awesome! A little off topic, but this is just a quiet horror! Work at HIFs without PPE and helmets, work with corundum without respirators! It's just a horror for PB employees should be...
          2. +1
            18 August 2022 20: 49
            Quote: military_cat
            It remains to teach the personnel not to smoke anywhere, and there will be no problems at all.

            In no case! Also throw a block, with a canister of alcohol, and matches that do not fade!
        2. +8
          18 August 2022 15: 59
          Quote: poquello
          Quote: ian
          Will launch

          ) have already launched, they can throw out their missiles - therefore, they are silent, because they shoot them down without problems

          Well, yes. That is why they are found at the site of the defeat of the Russian air defense system ...
          1. +6
            18 August 2022 16: 10
            Quote: ian
            That is why they are found at the site of the defeat of the Russian air defense system ...

            And they were discovered by some kind of "bloggers", apparently very large specialists in Yankees missile weapons. They wander around the places of destruction of the air defense system in herds, without taking their asses off the sofa.
            thanks to Russian bloggers. They found fragments of AGM-88 HARM fragments at the site of the defeat of the Russian air defense system.
            1. +4
              18 August 2022 16: 38
              Quote: Piramidon
              They wander around in herds in the places of defeat of the air defense system, without taking their asses off the sofa.

              Of course, you know better from the trenches, but bloggers Sladkov, Kots, Poddubny and others, I think they would argue with you.
              1. +2
                18 August 2022 17: 11
                They only shoot what they are allowed to.
              2. 0
                18 August 2022 19: 20
                Quote: ian
                bloggers Sladkov, Kots, Poddubny

                Correspondents and bloggers are different concepts for me.
                1. -1
                  18 August 2022 20: 32
                  Are you sure the people in the trenches don't blog? Do you personally know the discoverers?
                  Excuse me, reminded the grandmother at the entrance, angrily hissing after the passers-by, "Sorry. Tutki !! Drug addicts!"
            2. 0
              18 August 2022 17: 30
              Quote: Piramidon
              And they were discovered by some kind of "bloggers", apparently very large specialists in Yankees missile weapons.

              That the wreckage discovered and climbed
              noise is no accident. Let's get uglier...
            3. -4
              18 August 2022 19: 21
              They wander in herds around the places of destruction of the air defense system

              Bloggers should be immediately shot as spies
          2. -1
            18 August 2022 19: 23
            How did the bloggers find it in the article? Yes, indeed. With such intelligence, a tank will soon be dragged to the State Duma, and there they will not see it.
        3. +1
          18 August 2022 19: 48
          Quote: poquello
          Quote: ian
          Will launch

          ) have already launched, they can throw out their missiles - therefore, they are silent, because they shoot them down without problems

          At least two of our SAMs were destroyed by the Kharms. Both Harmas are identified very accurately.
          So nothing really goes wrong.
      2. +1
        18 August 2022 19: 33
        Quote: ian
        adaptation of air-to-air missiles to the ground, albeit with a loss of range, but quite common

        Complete nonsense!
        This is not just an air-launched missile, but an anti-radar one!
        It is directed only along the radar beam when the aircraft (pilot) detects radiation from an enemy radar.
        1. +1
          18 August 2022 19: 53
          Quote: 1Alexey
          Quote: ian
          adaptation of air-to-air missiles to the ground, albeit with a loss of range, but quite common

          Complete nonsense!
          This is not just an air-launched missile, but an anti-radar one!
          It is directed only along the radar beam when the aircraft (pilot) detects radiation from an enemy radar.

          Don't bullshit yourself.
          Harm's engine has a starting booster, which allows it to be accelerated after separation from the aircraft to 3M, or even more. Previously there was infa that up to 4M.
          Such a booster will easily pull out this rocket from an inclined launcher.
          Yes, the flight range will be reduced by a factor of three. From 150 to 50 km.
          But what is the nuance of this missile, it can simply be programmed simply to fly to a point, and then the GOS will turn on and it will begin an active search for a target.
          1. 0
            20 August 2022 05: 23
            1Alexey did not go through such difficulties. This is probably a specialist of the times when the pilot had to guide the rocket to the point of contact. By wire.
          2. 0
            21 August 2022 17: 58
            Quote: SovAr238A
            Harm's engine has a starting booster, which allows it to be accelerated after separation from the aircraft to 3M, or even more. Previously there was infa that up to 4M.

            These are the maximum rocket speeds at the end of acceleration when launched from a carrier at high altitude (15 km) and at high speed (1.5M).
      3. +2
        18 August 2022 20: 24
        ....probably .... modernized for use from Soviet-style fighters.

        And from ground installations, these missiles cannot by any chance be launched under the guise of volleys from MLRS?
        1. +4
          18 August 2022 21: 52
          Quote: 4ekist
          And from ground installations, these missiles cannot be accidentally launched

          Can. Israel in 1982 launched anti-radar precisely from ground-based launchers.
      4. -1
        20 August 2022 00: 52
        They will launch not from 300, but from 70 ....
        Actually, the AGM-88 HARM has a maximum launch range of only 150 km, not 300 ...
      5. 0
        20 August 2022 15: 40
        Quote: ian
        First, there is still something. Planes crash fairly regularly. And secondly, the adaptation of air-to-air missiles to the ground, albeit with a loss of range, is quite common. They will launch not from 300, but from 70 ....


        https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/ukrainian-mig-29s-are-firing-agm-88-anti-radiation-missiles
    2. -11
      18 August 2022 15: 38
      Flying carpets and devils, on which Vakula flew that weapon to St. Petersburg.
    3. Aag
      -10
      18 August 2022 15: 48
      Quote: Anchorite
      In this news, the only good thing is that there is practically nothing to base in the air at the Ukroreich))

      Today on "Retro-FM"
      V.R. Solovyova with a guest, an intelligence colonel (I did not remember his full name) discussed this topic.
      it has been suggested that the carrier was a Polish F-22 launched from a Polish airfield. It was assumed that our air defense did not see it (the maximum range of this missile is 150 km).
      1. +10
        18 August 2022 15: 52
        Quote: AAG
        Quote: Anchorite
        In this news, the only good thing is that there is practically nothing to base in the air at the Ukroreich))

        Today on "Retro-FM"
        V.R. Solovyova with a guest, an intelligence colonel (I did not remember his full name) discussed this topic.
        it has been suggested that the carrier was a Polish F-22 launched from a Polish airfield. It was assumed that our air defense did not see it (the maximum range of this missile is 150 km).

        Poland does not have F-22s.
        1. Aag
          0
          18 August 2022 15: 57
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Quote: AAG
          Quote: Anchorite
          In this news, the only good thing is that there is practically nothing to base in the air at the Ukroreich))

          Today on "Retro-FM"
          V.R. Solovyova with a guest, an intelligence colonel (I did not remember his full name) discussed this topic.
          it has been suggested that the carrier was a Polish F-22 launched from a Polish airfield. It was assumed that our air defense did not see it (the maximum range of this missile is 150 km).

          Poland does not have F-22s.

          Don't know. He voiced only what he heard. Apparently, this speaks of the level of experts.
          Vicki writes that the US Congress approved the sale of the F-22 only to Israel.
          1. -1
            18 August 2022 16: 43
            Quote: AAG

            Vicki writes that the US Congress approved the sale of the F-22 only to Israel.

            Alas, it didn't go any further.
            1. Aag
              0
              18 August 2022 16: 51
              Quote: Aaron Zawi
              Quote: AAG

              Vicki writes that the US Congress approved the sale of the F-22 only to Israel.

              Alas, it didn't go any further.

              But, according to the expert, five units are currently based in Poland.
              My mistake - in the first comment I wrote "Polish F-22" ... hi
        2. +8
          18 August 2022 15: 59
          Yes, you are right, the F-22 is not like Poland, but in general they were not delivered to any country of the NATO bloc
        3. +1
          18 August 2022 16: 07
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          Poland does not have F-22s.

          Poland is a NATO country. The Americans can transfer this plane, from any other airfield in Europe, to an airfield in Poland. Or someone can prohibit this action?
      2. +1
        18 August 2022 16: 04
        Quote: AAG
        It was assumed that our air defense did not see it (the maximum range of this missile is 150 km).

        That is, from this side, the "best in the world" S 400 with a declared radius of 400 km are absent? Or really "didn't see"?
        1. Aag
          -1
          18 August 2022 16: 23
          Quote: ian
          Quote: AAG
          It was assumed that our air defense did not see it (the maximum range of this missile is 150 km).

          That is, from this side, the "best in the world" S 400 with a declared radius of 400 km are absent? Or really "didn't see"?

          I repeat: the expert allowed the idea that he could go unnoticed. Like, he (F-22) has good indicators of stealth, invisibility, without being completely invisible ... but, under a series of circumstances ... Something like that.
        2. +1
          18 August 2022 19: 21
          Quote: ian
          Or really "didn't see"?

          Or located further than the launch line, in the depths of the territory.
        3. -1
          19 August 2022 09: 26
          S-400s are truly the best in the world.
          But when you write about the range, please do not forget that the MAXIMUM range is indicated in the performance characteristics. Under ideal conditions.
          If you put the S-400 in a gorge between mountains, its range will be near zero.
          Because there is a concept of a radio horizon.
          Second: the F-22 is an aircraft with stealth elements. Therefore, its detection cannot occur at a distance equal to the detection of an aircraft of the F-16 type /
          Third: S-400s do not fight targets such as missiles or projectiles in this NWO.
          This is entrusted to the Shells, Torahs and similar systems.

          And in short, it seems to me that I didn’t see it, because I didn’t look.
          1. -2
            19 August 2022 10: 41
            Quote: Denis812
            If you put the S-400 in a gorge between mountains, its range will be near zero.

            Donbass is a steppe. Smooth as a table.
            Quote: Denis812
            Second: the F-22 is an aircraft with stealth elements. Therefore, its detection cannot occur at a distance equal to the detection of an aircraft of the F-16 type /

            The maximum range of this missile is 170 km. Therefore, no one requires the detection of a target on the verge of sensitivity.
            Quote: Denis812
            Third: S-400s do not fight targets such as missiles or projectiles in this NWO.
            This is entrusted to the Shells, Torahs and similar systems.

            That is, in your opinion, everything that happens in the air further than 30 km from the "line of contact" is not of interest to Russian air defense? Or is the aviation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine based on front-line airfields within the radius of destruction of artillery?
            No one requires the S400 to fight missiles or shells. We are talking about aircraft tracking.
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      3. +3
        18 August 2022 16: 07
        Theoretically, it is possible. Moreover, the news of July 31 -
        The US has deployed fifth-generation F-22 Raptor fighters to the 32nd Tactical Air Base at Lusk in the center of the country, where it will form the 90th Expeditionary Fighter Squadron in support of the alliance's air cover operations.
    4. 0
      18 August 2022 16: 29
      Some experts say that they can fuck with f 22, covertly. f 22 are in Poland.
    5. 0
      18 August 2022 19: 45
      Quote: Anchorite
      In this news, the only good thing is that there is practically nothing to base in the air at the Ukroreich))

      There is nothing to be happy about in this news.
      Basically.
      And you rejoice.
      Aha-ha-ha-ha!
      All the goofs are very accurately described by this character here ....
    6. -2
      18 August 2022 22: 54
      Quote: Anchorite
      there is practically nothing to base in the air at the ukroreich))


      That's just not the fact that in the air ....

  2. +6
    18 August 2022 15: 29
    We need to start spoiling the life of the Yankees, by all means and means. Enough, it's time to give them hell! Hackers are welcome to massive hacks all over the United States, "unknown armed persons" should blow up as many ammunition depots as possible, "suspiciously often" accidents should occur with warships of the Yankee fleet, US aircraft should massively "sick with altimeterism" and fly in batches towards the ground ...
    It is high time to bring this rotten empire to a state of civil war and collapse into dozens of microcountries.
    1. +7
      18 August 2022 15: 39
      Even for the USSR, this was impossible, and now ... From the "Putin's Detachments", no?
      1. +2
        18 August 2022 15: 50
        curvimeter - if you don’t try to do anything, then there will be no result! The time is different now, and the possibilities too! The same hackers can cause trillions of dollars in losses, the main thing is not to interfere with them! And I have the same attitude towards the detachments of the above person as you do to building the Egyptian pyramids! hi
        1. +2
          18 August 2022 16: 17
          Quote: Thrifty
          The same hackers can cause trillions of dollars in losses, the main thing is not to interfere with them!

          And if they still cancel the loans of citizens of the Russian Federation, then even the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB will forget about them. laughing
        2. +2
          18 August 2022 16: 51
          Don't they have hackers? Or do their hackers have fewer opportunities?
          1. +7
            18 August 2022 17: 25
            A terrifyingly mysterious and brilliant Russian hacker, from the same category as HPP.
      2. -1
        18 August 2022 21: 55
        Quote: curvimeter
        Even for the USSR it was impossible

        The USSR did not have Petrov and Bashirov and "novichok" gas ...
        1. +1
          19 August 2022 09: 20
          But there was Sudoplatov and "delicious" sweets.
    2. +2
      18 August 2022 16: 10
      The strongest blow could be a complete rejection of the dollar and a ban on investing in the US financial system. This is much cooler than the Iskanders in Mexico.
    3. +1
      18 August 2022 16: 11
      killnet already regularly drops all state Internet resources in Europe
    4. +3
      18 August 2022 17: 03
      Quote: Thrifty
      Hackers welcome to massive hacks all over the United States,

      USA it is easier to do in Russia, almost all software is western, drivers are western, operating systems are western linux, apple, android, microsoft, etc. and if the software is not Western, then there is still the code of the West. Even Russian hackers use Western technology to hack. For example, a random tester finds a vulnerability in the system and he can either sell this information to a software developer or put it on darnet access, and there hackers can take it into service (figuratively).
      Quote: Thrifty
      "unidentified armed persons" must blow up as many ammunition depots as possible,

      they have very large computer capacities and they will immediately be able to sift through the road and street cameras of all suspects.
      And it also seems to me that the intelligence network of the West in Russia is hundreds of times more powerful than the Russian one in the West. And, accordingly, it will be hundreds of times easier for them to commit sabotage, as a result, the exchange will not be in favor of the Russian Federation.
    5. +1
      18 August 2022 17: 24
      Only hackers in movies can do anything. In the US, mythical Russian hackers have sometimes been blamed to justify their flaws.
      In reality, it is easy to protect yourself from hackers if a competent specialist sets up a computer or website.
      1. +1
        19 August 2022 09: 35
        In reality, you can ONLY protect yourself from hackers if your network is completely isolated from outside access. Which almost never happens.
        The presence of a specialist can only complicate the task.
  3. +5
    18 August 2022 15: 30
    So they also gave them missiles under 300 kilometers, which are waiting for pointers from the owners.
  4. +6
    18 August 2022 15: 32
    Is it possible to use an aircraft rocket without a control system on the carrier? And where did such equipment come from on Ukrainian Soviet-made aircraft?
    Either NATO aircraft were used, or a fake.
    1. +6
      18 August 2022 15: 38
      Former "partners" under the Warsaw Pact have Soviet fighters modified to NATO standards. They will be handed over.
      1. -2
        18 August 2022 15: 52
        Quote: ASAD
        there are Soviet fighters modified to NATO standards. They will be handed over.

        There are no such.
        1. +4
          18 August 2022 22: 00
          Quote: Negro
          There are no such.

          MiG-29s from the GDR were transferred to the FRG, underwent modernization, and eventually went to Poland.
          Further...
          1. 0
            18 August 2022 22: 16
            They have not been modified to be compatible with American missile interfaces, as far as is known.
    2. -5
      18 August 2022 15: 47
      Quote: Amateur
      Is it possible to use an aircraft rocket without a control system on the carrier? And where did such equipment come from on Ukrainian Soviet-made aircraft?
      Either NATO aircraft were used, or a fake.

      her GOS, the main thing is to throw it into the capture zone, but the most important thing is to get through the air defense - which)))))))) did not happen
      1. +5
        18 August 2022 16: 15
        This one does not need to go through air defense. It is just for the destruction of air defense and thought out.
        1. -4
          18 August 2022 16: 26
          Quote: Negro
          This one does not need to go through air defense. It is just for the destruction of air defense and thought out.

          )))))))))" - Will the planes support us?
          - No, the pilot got sick.
          why it was invented - it doesn’t matter, it flies - they shoot it down
        2. +1
          19 August 2022 09: 40
          Why are you .... a rocket is not flying in a parallel universe! :)
          Of course, she MUST go through air defense. Otherwise, she will not reach the goal.
          Another thing is that if the air defense object that she is aiming at is actively working, then this makes the task feasible for her.
          But firstly, this very object can work on the same rocket.
          And secondly, the air defense object does not work alone. :)
      2. Aag
        0
        18 August 2022 16: 55
        Quote: poquello
        Quote: Amateur
        Is it possible to use an aircraft rocket without a control system on the carrier? And where did such equipment come from on Ukrainian Soviet-made aircraft?
        Either NATO aircraft were used, or a fake.

        her GOS, the main thing is to throw it into the capture zone, but the most important thing is to get through the air defense - which)))))))) did not happen

        Where infa that "did not happen"?
        1. -5
          18 August 2022 20: 22
          Quote: AAG
          Where infa that "did not happen"?

          characteristics look at this junk
          1. Aag
            0
            19 August 2022 04: 46
            Quote: poquello
            Quote: AAG
            Where infa that "did not happen"?

            characteristics look at this junk

            So the questions revolve around this. With low range indicators (up to 150 km), the rocket (s) flew to the target: the question is what carrier was used (it was never determined).
            They answered you below, and you say "did not happen" ...
            1. 0
              19 August 2022 06: 22
              Quote: AAG
              Quote: poquello
              Quote: AAG
              Where infa that "did not happen"?

              characteristics look at this junk

              So the questions revolve around this. With low range indicators (up to 150 km),

              hmm, speed
              Quote: AAG
              They answered you below, and you say "did not happen" ...

              in dill canals and this does not happen
      3. +2
        18 August 2022 19: 57
        Quote: poquello
        Quote: Amateur
        Is it possible to use an aircraft rocket without a control system on the carrier? And where did such equipment come from on Ukrainian Soviet-made aircraft?
        Either NATO aircraft were used, or a fake.

        her GOS, the main thing is to throw it into the capture zone, but the most important thing is to get through the air defense - which)))))))) did not happen

        2 air defense systems were destroyed by two missiles - air defense did not pass.
        Well, yes. Essentially you are right.
        They didn't get through
        They simply destroyed the air defense, then NURSs passed through the holes ....
        1. -4
          18 August 2022 20: 21
          Quote: SovAr238A
          They just destroyed the air defense,

          did they destroy all air defense? )))))))))))))))))))))
          1. +2
            18 August 2022 22: 25
            Wagner headquarters destroyed?
            Was the ammunition depot destroyed?

            Are you really like this? Or are you doing everything in order to show rejection of your position by your actions?
            1. -1
              19 August 2022 02: 57
              Quote: SovAr238A
              Wagner headquarters destroyed?
              Was the ammunition depot destroyed?

              one agm88 or two? ))) maybe a hameris? or now it is necessary to pull up the hameris agm88 for each hit?
    3. +8
      18 August 2022 15: 52
      It was at the BMPD a week ago.

      The Pentagon explained that the missiles were modified to be launched from Soviet aircraft. They cannot exchange information with aircraft systems, but fly along the coordinates laid down on the ground like a regular missile launcher with the ability to turn on the seeker and aim at the radar in the final section. From the aircraft, the rocket receives only the command to launch.
    4. 0
      18 August 2022 16: 31
      They can strike from the NATO f 22, which they stand in Poland, covertly, and dump.
      1. +1
        18 August 2022 20: 01
        Quote: IvanIvanov
        They can strike from the NATO f 22, which they stand in Poland, covertly, and dump.

        It is impossible to hang Harm in the F-22 compartments.
        Stop repeating this bullshit
    5. +2
      18 August 2022 19: 56
      Quote: Amateur
      Is it possible to use an aircraft rocket without a control system on the carrier? And where did such equipment come from on Ukrainian Soviet-made aircraft?
      Either NATO aircraft were used, or a fake.

      Can.
  5. +9
    18 August 2022 15: 34
    And our military leadership could not have guessed about the possible deliveries of these missiles? In order to adapt in advance.
    1. Two
      +5
      18 August 2022 15: 42
      hi "Gifts" follow one after another! So it’s not far from tactical nuclear weapons ...
      1. -1
        18 August 2022 15: 48
        Purely NATO aviation has not yet been delivered, but they wrote in VO that Ukrainian pilots are trained in the USA.
    2. 0
      18 August 2022 15: 58
      And how to adapt to something that was not used against you?
      1. 0
        18 August 2022 16: 06
        Don't we have similar missiles?!
        1. 0
          18 August 2022 16: 22
          There are similar ones. They may have one principle of operation, but different characteristics, features and implementation "in metal". So how do you deal with what you don't know?
          1. 0
            18 August 2022 16: 28
            Yes, I don’t believe that our military is not aware of the performance characteristics of these missiles.
            1. -1
              18 August 2022 18: 52
              Still, HARM is not a mass thing and hasn’t come to us before ... The MO probably has a general idea, but they’re lying in the details.
              1. +1
                18 August 2022 22: 03
                Quote: ZeeD
                Still, HARM is not a mass thing and has not come to us before ...

                The first modifications of HARM began to be used in Vietnam.
                1. -1
                  18 August 2022 23: 45
                  Well, now they are not used. In Vietnam, the S-75 was also used, but they are very different from the S-400.
  6. +8
    18 August 2022 15: 46
    We are sitting in impotent rage at the "partners" on this site. Those costs that go to the NWO in the right direction should have been put in the right direction earlier, helping everyone who really "loves" the states. And we built all relationships ... Political, ideological, economic and military impotence. Therefore, we are raking it out now, plus we have grown the richest 5th column both in power, and in the economy and in culture ... Mikhalkov correctly said: "We will laugh, we will go through the country" ...
  7. +8
    18 August 2022 15: 47
    I don't understand why there is no sabotage where the weapons come from? Where is this vaunted special forces, which, judging by the films about them, is preparing for this, Vympel is there and the rest. That they don't have warehouses, didn't ours take over Switchblade or Javelin? Or they would pay something to someone, the Yankees are shipping out of Delaware.
    1. +4
      18 August 2022 16: 12
      I thought that, for example, "Sea Devils" (a television series on NTV) is a documentary.
      )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
    2. -5
      18 August 2022 17: 36
      It is quite possible that they "work" .... Only it is not customary to talk about this
    3. +1
      18 August 2022 20: 02
      Quote: Horus
      I don't understand why there is no sabotage where the weapons come from? Where is this vaunted special forces, which, judging by the films about them, is preparing for this, Vympel is there and the rest. That they don't have warehouses, didn't ours take over Switchblade or Javelin? Or they would pay something to someone, the Yankees are shipping out of Delaware.

      One of the special forces detachments was mediocrely put down during the first jump in the north of Ukraine.
    4. 0
      19 August 2022 09: 51
      How do you imagine it?
      Sabotage on American soil by Russian special forces?
      It's basically a war.
      If you really want to fight America, it will be faster to use nuclear weapons.

      But what can be done is to distribute the captured MANPADS and ATGMs to the guys from Latin America. In general, it is necessary to start supplying the drug cartels that work in the United States with weapons long ago, with an agreement not to supply them back to Europe.
      Cartels are money, and they will fight to the death for their money.
      1. 0
        19 August 2022 14: 28
        Well, it is not necessary to call the sabotage "Sabotage of the Russian special forces." Switchblade flew to the warehouse from the Afghan avenger, that's how I imagine it, they have few enemies or something. That's why he is special forces, so that it would be quiet. What stupid questions.
        1. 0
          19 August 2022 21: 07
          these are stupid questions.
          Which switchblade, from which avenger, to which base?
          How do you represent it specifically?
          Here I am their enemy. Well, OK, those came to me pz pk.
          Let's do it. :)
          1. 0
            20 August 2022 17: 38
            And how did the Ukrainians work in Crimea? Agency Do you know the word? This is how I present it. In general, I hope I answered all the stupid questions.
  8. -5
    18 August 2022 16: 00
    What carriers can be on the outskirts?
  9. +2
    18 August 2022 16: 05
    Isn’t she flying to the flagship for a start ... and indeed .. for some reason, many people think that they will tell reporters about all the deliveries of weapons to the war zone .. Someone anointed freeze-frames, where next to foreign equipment in Ukraine, people in US Army camouflage.. so what? It is clear that they are there. And there are weapons systems .. and those who serve them .. After all, we once trained the Vietnamese, and Koreans, and everyone in a row .. for some reason, people think that Ukrainians are stupid Papuans who cannot six months to master a NATO aircraft or a tank, or a multiple launch rocket system .. Come on ... No worse than other Slavs ..
    1. 0
      18 August 2022 16: 13
      Are you talking about KR Moscow? Hardly.
      1. -1
        18 August 2022 16: 28
        why not? She flew in from the Romanians, got right into the air defense radar .. well, the fire ..
        .
        they say a piece like this .. - picked up in one of the regions of Ukraine ..
        1. +2
          18 August 2022 16: 36
          Why bother with nonsense if you can launch an ordinary Harpoon. By the way, his warhead is 3 times heavier. For a ship, 66 kg of warheads is not enough.
          1. +1
            18 August 2022 20: 06
            Quote: Negro
            Why bother with nonsense if you can launch an ordinary Harpoon. By the way, his warhead is 3 times heavier. For a ship, 66 kg of warheads is not enough.

            Well, actually, one of the tactics for attacking surface ships by AUG forces is just the first strike from 2-4 Growlers, completely depriving ships of radar antennas, eight to sixteen Harms / AAGRMs, and then ordinary hornets finish off with Harpoons and Lrasmami and Jasm-Er.
            1. +3
              18 August 2022 21: 17
              It's too much trouble for the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet. As far as I remember, the reports of the state media cost two bulls.
  10. +2
    18 August 2022 16: 13
    The Pentagon gave Kyiv a lot of things without publicity, I think so
  11. 0
    18 August 2022 16: 25
    Let our learn from the Serbs. They successfully fought against these missiles with simple microwaves and very effectively.
    1. +2
      18 August 2022 20: 09
      Quote: PVV66
      Let our learn from the Serbs. They successfully fought against these missiles with simple microwaves and very effectively.

      Do not repeat this meaningless nonsense.
      From the same opera about Khibiny and Cook.
  12. -1
    18 August 2022 16: 27
    The states are completely stupefied with the fear of losing face when Russia wins. And they begin to transfer weapons to the Sumerians, more and more trenchant.
    What's next? F-22? Tomahawks? Ticonderoga? Minutemen? But it began with assurances that "except for blankets - nothing more!..."
  13. +5
    18 August 2022 16: 32
    This is a hello to those jingoistic patriots who shout that we have nowhere to rush, the longer it goes on the worse it will be, we will play out with this SVO that the Ukrainians will eventually get everything they need, they have a huge rear, with endless resources, we need to finish with Ukraine, destroy infrastructure, bridges, railways, start hunting for the elite of Ukrainians, while in the Donbass people die under shelling every day and spend the night in basements in Kyiv and in western Ukraine people get high in nightclubs, it is necessary to deprive the people of Ukraine of all the delights of the 21st century. There is no other way to win. It is necessary to assemble a grouping in Belarus and strike from near Brest, take the border with Poland at least under control.
    1. 0
      18 August 2022 16: 56
      Where to collect?
  14. -1
    18 August 2022 16: 35
    In this sense, by the way, it is important to understand exactly whether something like that flew to the Crimea through a warehouse / airfield.
    1. +2
      18 August 2022 17: 16
      No, this rocket hits 150 km. And if you launch from the ground - even less. DRG worked in Crimea.
  15. +1
    18 August 2022 16: 46
    It has already been said that dill uses them from the ground
  16. +1
    18 August 2022 17: 19
    You report late. Too late.
  17. -1
    18 August 2022 17: 24
    Funny bullshit. And why is HARM there? More like a blown up fake. HARM, like any PRR, is a weapon of suppression. PRR is used to suppress air defense during a breakthrough or attack on air defense. Moreover, in this case, only the massive use of PRR makes sense. There is no point in single PRRs.
    1. +1
      18 August 2022 18: 31
      Quote: Comet
      Funny bullshit. And why is HARM there? More like a blown up fake. HARM, like any PRR, is a weapon of suppression. PRR is used to suppress air defense during a breakthrough or attack on air defense. Moreover, in this case, only the massive use of PRR makes sense. There is no point in single PRRs.

      You can gouge a couple of radars and make them afraid.
      1. 0
        18 August 2022 23: 51
        Quote: BlackMokona
        You can gouge a couple of radars and make them afraid.

        What is there to be afraid of? You can get into a couple of radars only if measures are not taken to protect them from PRR, both organizational and tactical.
        1. -1
          19 August 2022 03: 15
          Quote: Comet
          Quote: BlackMokona
          You can gouge a couple of radars and make them afraid.

          What is there to be afraid of? You can get into a couple of radars only if measures are not taken to protect them from PRR, both organizational and tactical.

          You just don’t tell here), they will explain to you how this product from the time of the mammoth affects any of the most modern air defense systems
          1. 0
            19 August 2022 06: 12
            Quote: poquello
            Quote: Comet
            Quote: BlackMokona
            You can gouge a couple of radars and make them afraid.

            What is there to be afraid of? You can get into a couple of radars only if measures are not taken to protect them from PRR, both organizational and tactical.

            You just don’t tell here), they will explain to you how this product from the time of the mammoth affects any of the most modern air defense systems

            Hemaris are constantly being modernized, from what was created a long time ago, only the name remains. It's like with AIM-9 for example
            1. -1
              19 August 2022 06: 30
              Quote: BlackMokona
              continuously upgraded,

              if the Americans with rocket engines are bad, it will be bad, the modernization of the type of head in this case does not play a role
              1. 0
                19 August 2022 07: 03
                Quote: poquello
                Quote: BlackMokona
                continuously upgraded,

                if the Americans with rocket engines are bad, it will be bad, the modernization of the type of head in this case does not play a role

                Everything is fine with them with rocket engines, that they bought ours for half the production price for Atlas-5 rockets, does not change anything.
                MOSCOW, May 11 - RIA Novosti. OJSC NPO Energomash sold Russian RD-180 rocket engines for American Atlas-5 launch vehicles for half the cost of their production costs, according to the Russian Audit Chamber.

                "In this regard, only in 2008-2009, the loss from their sales amounted to about 880 million rubles, or almost 68% of all Energomash losses," the materials say.
                1. 0
                  19 August 2022 07: 24
                  Quote: BlackMokona
                  Everything is great with them with rocket engines, that they bought ours for half the price of production for Atlas-5 rockets,

                  some kind of strange argument, I’m generally talking about fast rockets, they couldn’t give birth to anything except MD
                  1. 0
                    19 August 2022 08: 00
                    Quote: poquello
                    Quote: BlackMokona
                    Everything is great with them with rocket engines, that they bought ours for half the price of production for Atlas-5 rockets,

                    some kind of strange argument, I’m generally talking about fast rockets, they couldn’t give birth to anything except MD

                    Do you want hypersonic Harm or what?
                    1. 0
                      19 August 2022 08: 15
                      Quote: BlackMokona
                      Quote: poquello
                      Quote: BlackMokona
                      Everything is great with them with rocket engines, that they bought ours for half the price of production for Atlas-5 rockets,

                      some kind of strange argument, I’m generally talking about fast rockets, they couldn’t give birth to anything except MD

                      Do you want hypersonic Harm or what?

                      > 1000m / s, the rest is knocked down by the shell)
                      1. 0
                        19 August 2022 08: 17
                        > 1000m / s, the rest is knocked down by the shell)

                        Then you should buy Harm AARGM-ER 300 km range Mach 4. Already two successful tests and the first production contract, operational readiness next year.
                      2. +1
                        19 August 2022 08: 30
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        > 1000m / s, the rest is knocked down by the shell)

                        Then you should buy Harm AARGM-ER 300 km range Mach 4. Already two successful tests and the first production contract, operational readiness next year.

                        so by the time they master them, it is not known which ones will stand on the shell, now we are talking about agm88
                      3. -1
                        19 August 2022 08: 33
                        Quote: poquello
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        > 1000m / s, the rest is knocked down by the shell)

                        Then you should buy Harm AARGM-ER 300 km range Mach 4. Already two successful tests and the first production contract, operational readiness next year.

                        so by the time they master them, it is not known which ones will stand on the shell, now we are talking about agm88

                        You can’t put armor everywhere, as much as you need too. Regularly, missiles arrive in warehouses despite air defense, they simply oversaturate. And here it will also fly separately for air defense.
                      4. +1
                        19 August 2022 08: 51
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        You can’t put armor everywhere,

                        not without it
        2. 0
          19 August 2022 06: 12
          Quote: Comet
          Quote: BlackMokona
          You can gouge a couple of radars and make them afraid.

          What is there to be afraid of? You can get into a couple of radars only if measures are not taken to protect them from PRR, both organizational and tactical.

          So at first they put it without noise and dust, and it is clear from the warehouses that no measures are taken at all until the thunder breaks out. And then these measures are to make people afraid. Since all these measures, such as constant redeployment and other things, reduce the effectiveness of air defense
          1. 0
            19 August 2022 12: 06
            Quote: BlackMokona
            So at first they put it without noise and dust,

            What did they put? There is only noise and dust in the media (Means of Mass Idiotization).
            Quote: BlackMokona
            how are all these measures like permanent relocation

            Permanent redeployment is not a measure against PRR.
            Quote: BlackMokona
            ... and other things reduce the effectiveness of air defense

            Measures to protect against PRR increase the effectiveness of air defense, and not reduce it. To apply measures that reduce efficiency is stupidity and idiocy.
            1. 0
              19 August 2022 18: 13
              Khe any protection measures reduce the effectiveness of the attack compared to actions if there is no threat. If you constantly run and change positions, then you will shoot less as a sniper, if you roll into cover after each shot on the tank, then you will shoot the enemy less. Of course, at the same time, there is an increase in efficiency in the face of a threat, but we are considering the situation here that there was no threat and now they brought
        3. 0
          20 August 2022 14: 25
          Quote: Comet
          Quote: BlackMokona
          You can gouge a couple of radars and make them afraid.

          What is there to be afraid of? You can get into a couple of radars only if measures are not taken to protect them from PRR, both organizational and tactical.

          Time-coordinated launch of several NURSs in the volume of a salvo of one launcher and Kharma. The air defense systems will work to repel NURSs.
          Do not be distracted by harm.
          A Hymars salvo costs between $300 and $600.
          SAM costs several million.
          Not a single air defense system working to intercept and fire targets can be protected from PRR at this time.
          You do not.
          1. 0
            21 August 2022 17: 47
            Quote: SovAr238A
            The air defense systems will work to repel NURSs.
            Do not be distracted by harm.
            A Hymars salvo costs between $300 and $600.
            SAM costs several million.
            Not a single air defense system working to intercept and fire targets can be protected from PRR at this time.

            Air defense does not work at all the way you wrote.
  18. 0
    18 August 2022 17: 31
    And where are the links to the Pentagon?
  19. -3
    18 August 2022 17: 52
    Here the problem for the Pentagon is that in the course of the NMD these guys are increasingly losing their reputation as a supplier of effective weapons. Therefore, they have to come up with and invent something new in the spirit: "Yes, we haven't really started supplying them yet. But as soon as we start, Russia will retreat." So this circus with horses will continue. Whether it's necessary or not, that's not the question. Then it will be: "we put an egg, we need to put a chicken that will hatch it. Sorry, congressmen, but such is the dialectic."
    1. +7
      18 August 2022 18: 47
      The fact that the 2nd army of the world has not been able to disperse the Armed Forces of Ukraine for half a year, and in recent months it has switched to the pace of one village a week, does it mean that Western weapons are ineffective? Is it a precise information?
      1. 0
        18 August 2022 18: 55
        It may be ineffective, but our General Staff is definitely ineffective
      2. -4
        18 August 2022 19: 11
        Quote from Heaven
        says that Western weapons are ineffective?


        And I will answer you this way: imagine some normal (ie, adequate to reality) country. Well, let's say Bolivia (not necessarily - you can another). What do you think - is Bolivia following this conflict with all possible means of intelligence? I think - still how to follow. I hope you think so too. Monitor and analyze. And what conclusions does she come to? And to the fact that despite the huge supplies from all over the world of all kinds of weapons and unprecedented support, the Russian army still manages to destroy Ukrainian brigades even standing still, so that even the numerical advantage of the Armed Forces of Ukraine does not really help. Yes, you can argue with this thesis. But the question is not in it. And in that: what do you think - with which army do Bolivian analysts associate themselves in this conflict? That's right, with the army of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And now the million-dollar question: would they like to be in the place of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and can they afford to treat their army so indifferently, as Ukraine does? And if you answer this question, you will understand why the Pentagon is losing face as a supplier of effective weapons.
      3. 0
        19 August 2022 08: 54
        it’s better one village at a time but in the right direction, but with their weapons they only retreat
      4. 0
        19 August 2022 10: 02
        First: don't you still understand that the problem is not in the Armed Forces of Ukraine at all.
        The Armed Forces are dying by the thousands, but they are being replaced by new ones. The problem is the underestimation of the readiness of Ukraine itself to fight against Russia.
        Second: let's throw all the RF Armed Forces to storm the cities and cut off the fucking losses. Why is this? We can calmly grind village after city, city after village, killing and erasing everyone in a row to take the whole of Ukraine. Why attack people?
        Our SVO consumes less money than Western "partners" pay us for gas, even though our deliveries there are 17% of the past.

        Where to hurry? Are you itching to put a hundred thousand people?
        1. -3
          19 August 2022 10: 38
          So the SVO is going well? So that's great.
  20. +1
    18 August 2022 18: 17
    ... and which air defense system was destroyed?
    1. -3
      18 August 2022 18: 55
      2 armors were at least damaged or destroyed by such a missile, although I think they were not destroyed - but really damaged. But it is obvious that repairs should take place at the factory
      1. -1
        18 August 2022 23: 58
        Quote from hell machine
        2 Armor were at least damaged or destroyed by such a missile, although I think they were not destroyed - but really damaged.

        How? HARM for Shell is a standard target. The SOC of the Shell works in a circle.
        1. 0
          20 August 2022 14: 39
          Quote: Comet
          Quote from hell machine
          2 Armor were at least damaged or destroyed by such a missile, although I think they were not destroyed - but really damaged.

          How? HARM for Shell is a standard target. The SOC of the Shell works in a circle.

          How many target tracking channels does the shell have?
          How many guidance channels does the shell have?
          How many NURS missiles are fired in a salvo?
          And so on.
          Do you really think that Harm is launched in broad daylight alone?
          1. +2
            20 August 2022 15: 02
            Quote: SovAr238A
            Do you really think that Harm is launched in broad daylight alone?

            Always amused by your approach. You seem to think that you are the only one who understands anything at all.

            Why not dream about the fact that the attack you describe is expected and prepared for. Nevertheless, the active military has more information than you. And certainly no less brains ...
            1. 0
              20 August 2022 15: 34
              Quote: Repellent
              Quote: SovAr238A
              Do you really think that Harm is launched in broad daylight alone?

              Always amused by your approach. You seem to think that you are the only one who understands anything at all.

              Why not dream about the fact that the attack you describe is expected and prepared for. Nevertheless, the active military has more information than you. And certainly no less brains ...

              I see that people are directly comparing the direct confrontation of one Harm and one Shell.
              Pretty much every goofball does it.
              Everyone compares vlob.
              Elephant vs whale.
              Absolutely in their brains, there is no understanding that all types of weapons and tactics from the application operate in complexes.
              And you are exactly the same
              A lover of comparing an elephant and a whale.
              The attack described by me - they are waiting, but with horror.
              For in the case I have described, the survival of the air defense system is possible only by abandoning the air defense function.
              There are no other options right now.
              1. +2
                20 August 2022 15: 40
                Quote: SovAr238A
                The attack described by me - they are waiting, but with horror

                All. Enough, you have already won this contest (c) good laughing Yes
              2. 0
                27 October 2022 13: 29
                How does an anti-radar missile work? It is aimed at a "voltage" point, or a signal convergence node, I don't know how to explain it intelligibly, well, in general, the shorter the wave, the closer the rocket will explode, it does not destroy the installation itself, it breaks the antenna, and the antenna does not need 100500 kg. , TNT, that's why it damaged and not destroyed. This missile should also be light, because it is carried by an aircraft, and it cannot carry much, because if there are a lot of missiles, then the fighter’s maneuverability drops significantly, and he still needs to take his legs out of the return fire zone. An anti-radar missile does not have such a long range. And this missile must also be maneuverable, because our MANPADS move, sometimes with the antenna turned on ... well, in general, something like this ...
          2. 0
            21 August 2022 17: 54
            Quote: SovAr238A
            Do you really think that Harm is launched in broad daylight alone?

            In addition to the Shell, Torah, Buk-M2 / M3, all letters after 300 starting from S-300PS can confidently work on NURS and HARM.
            1. 0
              21 August 2022 18: 15
              Quote: Comet
              Quote: SovAr238A
              Do you really think that Harm is launched in broad daylight alone?

              In addition to the Shell, Torah, Buk-M2 / M3, all letters after 300 starting from S-300PS can confidently work on NURS and HARM.


              Once again, the same question: how many tracking and guidance channels does Shell, Thor, Buk have?
              In what angle is the tracking and illumination of targets?
              1. 0
                22 August 2022 15: 47
                Quote: SovAr238A
                Once again, the same question: how many tracking and guidance channels does Shell, Thor, Buk have?
                In what angle is the tracking and illumination of targets?

                SovAr238A, why do you need this? I wrote to you above that air defense does not work the way you wrote here.
                1. 0
                  22 August 2022 15: 48
                  Quote: Comet
                  Quote: SovAr238A
                  Once again, the same question: how many tracking and guidance channels does Shell, Thor, Buk have?
                  In what angle is the tracking and illumination of targets?

                  SovAr238A, why do you need this? I wrote to you above that air defense does not work the way you wrote here.

                  To understand if you understand the principle of target channel overload.
                  1. 0
                    22 August 2022 16: 04
                    Quote: SovAr238A
                    To understand if you understand the principle of target channel overload.

                    The parameters you are requesting are not sufficient to determine if the target channels are overloaded. Air defense works the way you imagine it.
  21. -6
    18 August 2022 18: 29
    It is worth noting that information from bloggers could be considered unreliable, as is often the case. However, a little later, the Pentagon confirmed the fact of deliveries of AGM-88 HARM to Ukraine.

    Can you link to the Pentagon, where it was confirmed?
    Only helped CNN should not be brought.
    Where should the 88th APU be screwed?
  22. +5
    18 August 2022 18: 37
    For this, we can say thanks to our leadership, which pours empty threats and does not give birth to a response. And this is with the available opportunities. At first they believed in their chatter, now they just give what they want to give (I wanted to say rudely). With such successes of our empty-breeds, we will soon scatter everything that our army has achieved in spite of, and not thanks to.
    1. +3
      18 August 2022 18: 45
      And this is with the available opportunities


      Everything except nuclear weapons is used. A massive raid on the conditional center of Kyiv will only lead to the most favorable picture with a bunch of civilian corpses, comfortable conditions for the arrival of 100500 journalists and experts, and as a result, Western governments, under pressure from voters, will supply even more weapons.

      Bridges to destroy without nuclear weapons is a so-so task. For example, Antonovsky stands, the Bridge in Zatoka, after 10-15 missiles, not only stands, but also functions. Throwing serious bombs - air defense will not work, but those who plan 100+ km like the Americans do not, and it’s still dumb, you can lose the conditional Tu-22.
      1. -5
        18 August 2022 18: 58
        Bridges to destroy without nuclear weapons is a so-so task.

        Damn it ... but those who fought in WW2 did not know about it ...
        Americans didn’t even know Korean and Vietnamese recourse
        Well and that
        04.12.1941/153/71 sixteen I-61 ☝️ from XNUMX IAP (XNUMX Iabr, KBF): N.I. Korolev, G. Pushkin, K.V. Soloviev, V.F. Abramov, A.G. Baturin, I. I. Golosov, A.V. Kolupaev, I.I. Tsapov and others bombed the bridge across the river. Narva near Kingisepp. The bridge was disabled. The plane of the commander of the 1st air force, G. Pushkin, was shot down over the target.


        belay
        For example, Antonovsky stands, the Bridge in Zatoka after 10-15 missiles not only stands

        Antonovsky bridge survived the attack of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but it is impossible to move on it
        1. -1
          18 August 2022 19: 07
          Bridges with 2 MB are built a little stronger than steel, just a little bit.

          Two, but there are no bombing strikes (the most effective in this case), because the air defense is not suppressed. I wrote above about it:
          Throwing serious bombs - air defense will not work, but those who plan 100+ km like the Americans do not, and it’s still dumb, you can lose the conditional Tu-22.
          1. -1
            18 August 2022 20: 41
            They began to build sloppily (the bridge named after Tereshkova will not let you lie)
            But explosives have become more efficient, by 70%
            According to Konashenkov, everything was suppressed: both air defense and orbital fortresses, and even a hyperspace transition was captured. Yes
      2. -1
        18 August 2022 19: 06
        Quote: donavi49
        A massive raid on the conditional center of Kyiv will only lead to the most favorable picture with a bunch of civilian corpses, comfortable conditions for the arrival of 100500 journalists and experts, and as a result, Western governments, under pressure from voters, will supply even more weapons.

        So anyway it will be! Maybe it's time to match? I am for carpet bombing. And stop talking nonsense about surgical strikes. It's just silly to take responsibility. And talk about a loyal population is in favor of the poor!
        1. -2
          18 August 2022 19: 18
          I am for carpet bombing.

          The pig cutter must be arranged according to all the rules of physics

          First - to drop large-caliber bombs, blockbusters (block buster - literally “destroyer of quarters”) on Kyiv and Odessa, then pour napalm on top of the resulting blockages

          When rescuers come running in the morning - hit with cassette
  23. -2
    18 August 2022 18: 39
    Lose fear.
    1. +2
      18 August 2022 18: 53
      Well, it’s just that the Kremlin’s mouths should be opened less, but they should act. So it will come to a tomohawk, and considering how our Aerospace Forces don’t care about the placement of equipment - hundreds of aircraft are under threat.
      Someone there promised a lightning-fast response for interfering in the NWO
  24. +1
    18 August 2022 18: 51
    While the Kremlin and the RF Ministry of Defense are expressing strong concern, they are making hamburgers. They could learn from these damned "Yankees", otherwise they can do nothing but concern.
  25. -3
    18 August 2022 19: 06
    Quote: neden
    Where to collect?

    From Russia.
    1. -2
      19 August 2022 04: 44
      Have you already gathered?
  26. -1
    18 August 2022 19: 07
    The F-22 Raptor was indeed relocated to Poland. It is quite possible that they, using their stealth, launch anti-radar missiles from the territory of Ukraine. True, there are no statements on this score by the command of the RF Armed Forces. If this is so, then they should be tried to shoot down air defense or fighter aircraft. It is possible to detect and hit them over the territory of Ukraine with means that are based in Belarus, and at the crash site, special forces in helicopters to capture secret devices and structural elements.
  27. 0
    18 August 2022 20: 05
    I watched an interview with a developer of Russian anti-radar missiles. He said that Russia has plenty of them, but Russia does not use them en masse for some reason. He said they remember the target if the radar is turned off.
    1. +2
      19 August 2022 00: 02
      Quote: Alex Justice
      He said they remember the target if the radar is turned off.

      Remembers. Only not a target, but a certain angular position of the line of sight of the current point of guidance, which is the farther from the radar, the greater the distance to the radar at the time it was turned off. And turning off the radar in this case is cunningly done to increase the guidance error.
  28. 0
    18 August 2022 21: 09
    Trizdets. Surprises. Aviation was cut out, so they pass Czech, Romanian and all other Soviet aircraft adapted to NATO to Saloums. It will be cooler than a monkey with a grenade.
    1. -1
      18 August 2022 22: 18
      There are many of these rockets. And soon the F-16s will be brought in. Although even now they can work across the border without any problems. And maybe they work. We need to look at what planes were pulled up to Romania and Poland.
  29. -1
    19 August 2022 10: 45
    By the way, Israel practiced launching from the ground launcher Harmov.
    Maybe they set it up? A couple of pieces have already been shown. Arestovich is already broadcasting that the Kharms have mowed down our air defenses and that the counter-offensive of Ukrovermacht will begin.
    1. 0
      19 August 2022 12: 08
      Quote: Zaurbek
      By the way, Israel practiced launching from the ground launcher Harmov.

      When did Israel practice launching HARM from a ground-based launcher?
  30. +1
    19 August 2022 14: 39
    The United States continues to “pump up” the Armed Forces of Ukraine with weapons, aggravating and prolonging the conflict in Ukraine.


    The United States does not pump up the Armed Forces of Ukraine with weapons, but frankly uses the Armed Forces of Ukraine as cannon fodder. Therefore, over time, Kyiv will be supplied with ANY weapons necessary to defeat Russia. And we need to understand that the United States has sufficient opportunities for this, since in the field of conventional weapons NATO is many times superior to Russia in all respects.

    Based on the foregoing, the conclusion suggests itself that in order to defeat the enemy, Russia will have to raise the stakes. Only the threat of using nuclear weapons can stop the US and the Europeans (the Europeans in particular, since in the event of a nuclear war they have no chance of surviving).

    But, if in the near future Russia does not dare to decisively announce the threat of the use of nuclear weapons on NATO territory, then it will receive a crushing defeat on the territory of Ukraine. And this defeat in a short time will inevitably lead to the death of Russia itself. Alas...
  31. -1
    19 August 2022 14: 57
    We can also shoot down their satellites, we can also arm Cuba to the teeth, and we can also put Yao in Venezuela, and we can also throw this prisoner out of Cuba; but we don’t want to, and we can also finish off the Zelensky Jew by saving the people of Ukraine from the Jewish Tyrant; why don't we want to?
    1. 0
      20 August 2022 14: 48
      Quote: Cuban
      We can also shoot down their satellites, we can also arm Cuba to the teeth, and we can also put Yao in Venezuela, and we can also throw this prisoner out of Cuba; but we don’t want to, and we can also finish off the Zelensky Jew by saving the people of Ukraine from the Jewish Tyrant; why don't we want to?

      1. We cannot shoot down satellites.
      2. We cannot arm Cuba. Firstly, the Cubans themselves will not take anything that could affect their real security.
      Secondly, the Americans will definitely not allow it.
      Do not forget that after our first transports, they really set up a blockade of the island with a promise to sink our ships and ours turned their ships back. Stopped the bridge.
      It's the same with Venezuela as it is with Cuba. They will not go to war against America.
      Guantanamo is not only a prison, it is also a US military base.
      There is nothing to throw away
      Stop carrying alternative well inflamed and return to the real world
  32. 0
    23 August 2022 15: 07
    It must be understood that NATO and the United States will eventually transfer to Ukraine the entire range of weapons, with the exception of nuclear and possibly the F-35, F-22. Everything else will eventually fight in Ukraine