Announced the arrival of a new PPK-20 submachine gun and a microwave sniper rifle to the troops

The newest Russian submachine gun PPK-20, developed by the Kalashnikov concern, will begin to enter the Russian troops this year. This was announced by the President of JSC Concern Kalashnikov Alan Lushnikov.

Russian troops this year will receive the latest PPK-20 submachine gun and a new SVCh sniper rifle, created to replace the already obsolete SVD. Lushnikov did not give a more precise date, confining himself to a statement of fact.

The PPK-20 submachine gun will go to the troops this year. We believe that this is the best submachine gun in the world for the next 20 years (...) The microwave will already be delivered this year

- said the president of the concern.

The PPK-20 submachine gun was developed as part of the Vityaz-MO development work (ROC) on the basis of the Vityaz-SN PP, which has been serially produced since 2005, taking into account the comments and shortcomings identified during its operation. The official name of the new weapons sounds like: "9 mm Kalashnikov submachine gun PPK-20". Total length - 600-660 mm, weight without ammunition - 2,7 kg, barrel length 182 mm, cartridge - 9x19 Luger, magazine capacity - 30 rounds.

The new Chukavin sniper rifle (SHCh) was developed by the Kalashnikov concern on the instructions of the Ministry of Defense to replace the outdated Dragunov sniper rifle (SVD). For the first time the microwave oven was shown to the public in 2017 at the Army-2017 forum. The rifle was originally available in three calibers - 7,62x54R, 7,62x51 NATO (also known as .308 Win), and .338 Lapua Magnum (8,6x70 mm). At the same time, in the 7,62x54R caliber, the microwave rifle is fully compatible with magazines from the SVD sniper rifle.

Microwave length, depending on the version, ranges from 995 to 1015 millimeters, and the mass is 4,2 kilograms with an empty magazine and a mounted optical sight. The weapon is equipped with a barrel length of 410 millimeters. The microwave has an aiming range of 1200 meters.

Comments

[gansales]

The PPK-20 submachine gun will go to the troops this year. We believe that this is the best submachine gun in the world for the next 20 years (...) The microwave will already be delivered this year

I hope that it will be so .. We will check in Ukraine !!! Then we'll talk

[The leader of the Redskins]

Hey Vitaly. Your cheers for patriotism and optimism, but for peaceful purposes!
And on Mars, apple trees would bloom!

[Ros 56]

I also came up with the idea, well, why the hell do I need to fly to Mars for apples, it’s much closer to my garden.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Well, for starters, "apples taste better in someone else's garden."
And to continue .. If the ticket is cheaper than from Moscow to Vladivostok, then why not give up?))
Or on Mars, too, everyone saw?

[gansales]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Hey Vitaly. Your cheers for patriotism and optimism, but for peaceful purposes!
And on Mars, apple trees would bloom!

This is what I strive for and people like me ..
They do not allow us to live peacefully and creatively ..
Here we are at war for now and we are chasing usurers of all stripes ..

[gansales]

Quote: Banner55

Here we are at war for now and we are chasing usurers of all stripes ..
What kind of garbage habit is it to rank oneself among those who are fighting THERE? We don't fight, we fight. You do nothing but fart in agony.

Well done .. Noted you look! Oh well

[frog]

Taking into account the characteristics of the character - rather other representatives of the plant kingdom

[Vladimir_2U]

The characteristics of the rifle are good, as we will find out over time.
But with PP, it's the same thing.

We believe that this is the best submachine gun in the world for the next 20 years.

An example of shameful and stupid self-promotion. What is the "best" in a bulky and heavy PP for its cartridge?

[Murmur 55]

Vladimir _2U , 2.57 kg without magazine, how much in curb? Kilo 3 with a penny? Ksenia is three kilos completely, only there 5.45 × 39. And why this software is the best for the next 20 years is not too ambitious.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Murmur 55

Ksenia is three kilos completely, only there 5.45 × 39. And why this software is the best for the next 20 years is not too ambitious.

That's right, a heavy and healthy fool under a weak cartridge seems to be considered a masterpiece. No, in the police or police SPN it can and will do, anti-ricochet and a short range there, but not in the same size and weight! And as an army, even personal self-defense - pure lobbying to the detriment of the army.

[Murmur 55]

Vladimir _2U, all the more so for pilots that they will also put in a body kit? And if without a body kit, then what is the raisin of this particular model?

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Murmur 55

Vladimir _2U, all the more so for pilots that they will also put in a body kit?

If yes, then I consider it sabotage.

Quote: Murmur 55

And if without a body kit, then what is the raisin of this particular model?

Without the PBS, the benefit of which is hypothetical to the pilot specifically, in my opinion, the PP in the army is generally meaningless, and even so ugly.

[Maxim G]

Focused on MP5, it seems.
Hence such weight characteristics.

And this PP resembles the civilian Saiga-9.
Those. in fact, this is Kalash under 9 mm, why it is needed is not clear.

[frog]

in fact, this is Kalash under 9 mm, why it is needed is not clear.

What do you want from Izhevsk? Really new PP (and we won’t take a steam bath for now, why is it needed))) ?? Fiction, hits and anecdotes - in the next department

[Maxim G]

VPO-185 and VPO-285 Vyatskiye Polyany made for the civilian market.

[frog]

Eee..... And? Does this have anything to do with the creation of the "Izhevsk miracle"?

[Maxim G]

I mean, not everyone torments Kalash.
However, the question is what happened at the Vyatskiye Polyany.

[frog]

Exactly. As for the result of the torment))) Yes, and he spoke about Izhevsk

[Revolver]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

. What is the "best" in a bulky and heavy PP for its cartridge?

Ukp: "Ukrainians are better than Russians."
Russian: "What's better?"
Ukp: "Than Russians."

[Stepnyak]

Yes, and a rifle too ... I read it - microwave and at first I thought that it was microwave. Thought - Wow! New physical principles are finally being implemented. How much can powder gases be transferred from barrel to barrel? Everything is already squeezed out there. But it turned out - an old steam locomotive on a rubber track.

[andrewkor]

And what is the difference between the "newest" sample and the "new" one?

[ultra]

God forbid that he didn’t have a chance to check it there .. It is planned for pilots.

[Maz]

Great news! Especially about the microwave!!!

[Prax1]

Microwave from the microwave will shoot?

[azkolt]

Photos would be attached, you would not have a price!

[dmi.pris1]

There are pictures of the rifle and a video on the net. A modern, necessary weapon to replace the SVD. A submachine gun is like a personal weapon for pilots, tankers.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: dmi.pris

Photos of the rifle and video are on the net.

Yes, but adequately illustrating the article was good form at all times. And then recently a bad trend has been observed on VO: either the attached pictures are not sewn, do not fasten, or they are completely absent.

[impostor]

A submachine gun is like a personal weapon for pilots, tankers. Here, for some reason, it doesn’t give out

It gives itself away, it’s not news, the button accordion can be said ...

[sick53]

Everything the search engine gives!

[azkolt]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Hey Vitaly. Your cheers for patriotism and optimism, but for peaceful purposes!
And on Mars, apple trees would bloom!

And what's wrong with Lieutenant General VO, Nazariy?

[AUL]

Yes zadolbal already with his indefatigable uryakony! As if working on a piecework basis. How many nicknames he already had - and in all the same, a protracted orgasm for any official message. It seems to him that paper shoulder straps with big stars are very dear to him.
You have to be more modest, girl! (C)

[Eug]

As for me, 9x19 for PP is frankly weak.

[KCA]

Are you sure about that? Read or look about the Lebedev pistol and the range of cartridges for it, the pistol has a muzzle energy of 620J, the PM 330, besides, the barrel of the PP should be longer, respectively, and the energy will be higher

[Eug]

I always considered muzzle energy to be a characteristic of a cartridge or bullet, but not a type of weapon. It is clear that it is related to the length of the barrel (the energy of the bullet at the time of leaving the barrel depends on its length, but nevertheless). What do you think the effective firing range of the ARMY PP is needed for and what range can the 9x19 cartridge provide? For a pistol with its real range of 25-35-50 meters - one thing, but for an army PP?

[Eug]

According to the literacy, it is necessary to indicate the muzzle energy of the bullet for a specific barrel length and the mass of the bullet itself.

[Murmur 55]

Eug , for the police it’s very even, although it’s also not always enough, but for the army men 9 × 19 is rather weak and for a long time.

[Revolver]

There was at one time the strongest pistol cartridge 7,62x25. It could even be considered, with some stretch, an intermediate cartridge. But they refused. Of course, for police needs, the penetrating ability is too strong, despite the fact that the stopping power is rather weak. But for the military, that's it.

[Murmur 55]

Revolver , here ours even created a 12,7 caliber for an assault version for special forces and didn’t find anything EXCESSIVE there, such an argument even if you’re bad under a dose or hide behind a wall, he’s still kaput. I remembered ASh-12 it is called.

[mitroha]

Beautiful as hell

And PPK-20

[dmi.pris1]

Why is this PPK in the army? This is a special police weapon. I wrote about tank pilots, but I see it will not be useful to them

[Aag]

Quote: dmi.pris

Why is this PPK in the army? This is a special police weapon. I wrote about tank pilots, but I see it will not be useful to them

Well, we love good news, I'm only FOR! (statements - there are already questions ...).
By the way, can someone clarify (?) - why is SVD outdated? Well, specifically? ... Weight, accuracy, ergonomics ...
It became inconvenient to fix the body kit? The one supposedly imported?
Nah, - not special ... Experience tells.

[Alex777]

Quote: AAG

By the way, can someone clarify (?) - why is SVD outdated? Well, specifically? ... Weight, accuracy, ergonomics ...

The design of the SVK is modern.
The design of the rifle implies a U-shaped steel receiver, to the bottom of which, with the help of two transverse pins, an aluminum case of the firing mechanism with a magazine receiver is attached. In the receiver, or rather, its upper part, there is a bolt carrier with a rotary bolt having three lugs. The shutter is locked by the front receiver liner, into which the breech breech is pressed. This can be called very conditionally - an upper-lower type design. Forearm hung out (does not touch the barrel) is made of aluminum, with MLOK slots. The Picatinny rail is integrated into the top of the receiver, which is a modern stable platform for mounting any modern sights..
It is specifically noted that since the disassembly of the rifle is carried out “from below”, by separating the trigger case, then when cleaning and maintaining the weapon, there is no need to remove the sights and they, which is good, keep sighting relative to the barrel.

... the declared accuracy of microwave fire ... at 100 meters is 3 cm, for SVD - from 8 to 10 cm.

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[1984]

is it PPK-20? I don’t understand how a PP with the dimensions of an assault rifle can be considered the best in the world, they would say the worst, I would believe ....

[Alex777]

The MP-5 fits your criteria.
At the same time, it is considered one of the best.

[Murmur 55]

mitroha , I won’t say anything for the vintar, but about the PPK-20 KSYUHA-with a magazine from MP-5 and his MAJESTY body kit. Oh yes, the butt is a reduced copy of FN-Fall

[Alex777]

PPK-20 is your first version.
This one was adopted:

[Okakakiev]

Beautifully turned out

[mitroha]

Quote: Alex777

PPK-20 is your first version.
This one was adopted:

Thank you for the amendment

[Per se.]

Quote: Mitroha

Beautiful as hell

In the window glass,
the world is going slowly
good girl Lida.
Why is she good?

But, really, why is a microwave better than that, if we are talking about shooters in infantry combat formations, or, as the Yankees call them, “marksman” (designated marksman, literally “designated marksman”). For a city shooting gallery, for special police units, maybe a microwave, for army dirt, I don’t think that SVD has exhausted its potential. Our buy and sell would not be smart enough to bury the SVD.

As for "beautiful", so the SVD will be more elegant and beautiful, both in the old "classic" and updated.

There is a phrase in Russia - "any-expensive", it seems that it's nice, this is SVD, but expensive, this is microwave.
However, to each his own, where without those who are a monopolist and want to cut the loot ...

[antivirus]

How did the aiming range of the 3-line was 800m? 120 years ago.
Where is the world heading?

[dmi.pris1]

Do you dream that the target range would be three kilometers? Why?

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: antivirus

3 lines were 800m?

800m - German-made AK-47 sight marking, Soviet AK-47 - 1000m
Mosin rifle of imperialist times - 2000m

[John22]

On the AK-47, the sight is 800 m. The rifle has arr. 1891 piceles for 2000 steps (1400 m). This is so, by the way.

[antivirus]

Below, Alexey ra wrote about optimism.
I read for a long time about the real, not the calculated range - to get up to 800 - 1000m.
NK optics gives 3 km?
The price of 3 hlin against supernim having analogues of svd and - h? For what loot to pay?
The barrel 120 lt back gave accuracy, and today optics for xhtys dollars of lenses.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: John22

At the rifle arr. 1891 piceles for 2000 steps (1400 m). This is so, by the way.

By the way, by the way...
The sight of the Mosin rifle of the 1891 model is stepped, on the rifle of the 1891/30 model it is a sector. The stepped sight consists of two rear sights: the first is used when firing at a distance of 400, 600, 800, 1 and 000 steps; to use the second, you need to raise the aiming bar to a vertical position; it allows you to fire at a distance from 1 to 200 steps.
The sector sight has only one rear sight, which can be set to any position from 50 to 2000 meters in 50-meter increments.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: John22

On the AK-47, the sight is at 800 m.

The AK sighting device consists of a sight and a front sight.

Sight - sector type, with the location of the aiming block in the middle of the weapon. The sight is calibrated up to 800 m (starting with AKM - up to 1000 m) in 100 m increments,

[Alexey RA]

Quote: antivirus

How did the aiming range of the 3-line was 800m? 120 years ago.

You have to be a big optimist to believe in accurate shooting by a regular line shooter from an open sight at 800m.

[Grim Reaper]

Quote: antivirus

How did the aiming range of the 3-line was 800m? 120 years ago.
Where is the world heading?

Well, it's like a joke.
- I have a member of 25 centimeters!
- Ha, and I have a quarter of a meter!
- Is it the same?
- But HOW SOUNDS!

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

I always have a question in such cases. And we make ammunition ourselves, or it will be like now when, against the backdrop of sanctions, they don’t sell a lot of ammunition to us and all these magnums, 338. and so on, did they make a pen in our snipers?

[PSih2097]

Quote: Evgeny Ivanov_5

And we make ammunition ourselves, or it will be like now when, against the backdrop of sanctions, they don’t sell a lot of ammunition to us and all these magnums, 338. and so on, did they make a pen in our snipers?

well, the price tag in the store is 2 - 500 rubles apiece from Fiocchi ... And we have been making the Novosibirsk plant since 3 years ...

[IVZ]

Should have done it, but does it? The sniper version of NovoSib did not work out exactly. At least in 2016, when I worked at KBIS, they tried to find this ammunition of our production. We found out that NovoSib does not produce them. It is issued by some darkish desk at the Ulyanovsk PZ. Moreover, the production volumes are small and, according to intelligence data, using imported components. But that was in 2016. What now - I do not know.

[IVZ]

Is it interesting that the samples were adopted or is it an attempt to advance by sending them into trial operation in combat conditions? What is the GRAU index?

[PSih2097]

Quote: IVZ

What is the GRAU index?

there is none, they only went to military trials ...

[impostor]

PPK-20 index GRAU 6P73, ROC "Reaper", rifle SVCh-54, index GRAU 6V14

[IVZ]

Got it. Thank.

[hhurik]

Back in the last millennium, the Soviet Army handed over submachine guns to warehouses and tried to forget them like a bad dream. Effective managers in the 21st century stubbornly continue to sell PP as some kind of miracle weapon for pilots, etc. Amazing stupid stubbornness: advertise weapons of weight and size with a shortening of a modern assault rifle - and shooting like a pestle. That's why this is all, it seems that in the light of current events, not so big resources should be spent on the essentials. For example, attach rusty Mosin rifles in the LDNR troops to the urn and give them at least an SVD with good optics from the bounty of the concern, huh?

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: hhurik

Effective managers in the 21st century stubbornly continue to sell PP as some kind of miracle weapon for pilots, etc.

No, well, there is some kind of niche, probably, but not in the army, I agree with you. Plus, a specific sample is a hefty and heavy snag for such a cartridge. Well, the cartridge itself, since when has it been adopted in our Army?

[IVZ]

The cartridge, unfortunately, was accepted long ago and thoroughly. Apparently, the proprietary position of TsNIITOCHMASH in relation to the more promising 9x21 cartridge for Gyurza and Co. had an effect. And about the place of the PP under 9x19 and the like in the army, I think that you are right.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: IVZ

The cartridge, unfortunately, was accepted long ago and thoroughly.

Yes, yes, thanks for the correction!

[keleg]

It is very good for pilots - unification according to BC with a pistol and a silent shooting device. Plus, they are praised for ergonomics and low recoil, because the pilots are still shooters, they are specialists in other things.

[Vladimir_2U]

Who is praising? Specifically, feedback from pilots? Let me not believe.

Quote: keleg

Plus, they are praised for ergonomics and low recoil, because the pilots are still shooters, they are specialists in other things.

They don't care about weight? And low recoil with such a weight and cartridge is a small achievement.

Quote: keleg

It is very good for pilots - unification according to BC with a pistol and a silent shooting device.

Makarov and Stechkin use a completely different cartridge. I don’t recall other personal weapons among the pilots. The only plus, and then hypothetical - PBS. Why hypothetical? The pilot does not need to "shoot" someone, if he starts shooting, then he is detected, and in this case firepower decides, for PP it is obviously lower than for machine guns and even personal weapons like P-90 and others. However, options with PBS are possible.

[Alex777]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Who is praising? Specifically, feedback from pilots? Let me not believe.

So production hasn't started yet. There will be reviews.
They already wrote: according to the results of the tests, the pilots chose
PPK-20 and PL. Single cartridge. Further life will show.

[keleg]

The pilot's armament kit will include a compact Lebedev pistol chambered for the same cartridge, it is immediately on the pilot (because you still need to get to the machine gun). A normal machine gun does not fit into an ejection seat, the PPS-20 is a replacement for the "Stechkin" and in this form it is very good.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: keleg

A normal machine gun does not fit into an ejection seat, the PPS-20 is a replacement for the "Stechkin" and in this form it is very good.

PP-20 in the dimensions of the AKS-74U, why is it good ?! This snag is 30 years old!

[keleg]

The PP-20 has a PLC cartridge from the same pilot's kit (the pistol is in a holster and the machine still needs to be pulled out), the possibility of silent shooting, the real accuracy is higher than that of the Ksenia, the overall thickness is smaller.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: keleg

The PP-20 has a cartridge for the PLC from the same pilot's kit (the pistol is in a holster and the machine still needs to be pulled out)

And what advantage it gives, it is completely incomprehensible. Are the stores interchangeable? (no) Although if the magazines from the PP are on the vest, and the PP is successfully loved, then yes, you can always quickly, in battle, reload cartridges from one magazine to another.

Quote: keleg

real accuracy is higher than that of "Ksenia"

Come on, already from a hundred meters, from a pistol cartridge, this cannot be fundamental.

Quote: keleg

less thickness.

How many millimeters? And how is this possible with the same mass?

Quote: keleg

Silent firing capability

The only unprincipled plus, for the pilot, definitely unprincipled. But the firepower is sharply reduced compared to the AKS-74u.

[IVZ]

handed over submachine guns to warehouses and tried to forget them, like a bad dream.

The SA did not have such serious complaints about the PP to treat them like that. Rather the opposite.

[Peter1First]

A mosquito with a thick long barrel and manual reloading will probably be more accurate than the SVD, especially with good optics. In addition, now no one in the growth of a squad or platoon runs towards a sniper. Automation is not so important here.

[Witcher]

Why three calibers? 7,62x54R is the worst option, outdated?
8,6x70 mm is the most popular caliber in the world.
Until you get off the old you will not sit on the new.

[senima56]

Long overdue! Waited already!

[Murmur 55]

senima56 , I agree for a sniper, although there are increased quality requirements for such weapons, but the PP is another project, I’m not talking about the army.

[senima56]

Disagree with you! Everything flows, everything changes! Not only sniper rifles, but also PPs are developing and improving!

[shpon123]

The question is, what is the point in microwave if the ammunition is of the same caliber as that of the SVD?

[Alex777]

The design of the microwave is different. The accuracy is higher.
Everything good from the SVD was taken in the microwave. Something like this.

[amba_2]

I think the test and combat use of these samples have long passed and I think successfully! And the caliber is not bad, universal, because almost all the PP available in the world use 9x19mm cartridges, the cartridge is powerful, in which case you can use captured ammunition, the same picture with NATO microwave cartridges with a caliber of 7,62x51mm, I can assume that my combat military test these samples did not necessarily go to the NWO, there is also Syria, etc!

[1984]

in my opinion, the best PP is the Belgian FN P90, a compact, actually rectangular shape without protruding elements, a magazine for 50 rounds, ejection of cartridge cases down under your feet, and not even ejection, but rather their loss, but the caliber is small, only 5.8 mm, but the bullets are high-speed, which provides good armor - penetration is close to automatic, and the low stopping effect is compensated by a high rate of fire up to 1000 rounds per minute, the only negative is the inconvenient magazine change ...

[iouris]

To clean up urban areas, you need a disk magazine (large capacity ... though ...).

[Murmur 55]

iouris , to clean up the city you need a "Bur" and for especially "conscious" "Bumblebee".

[Konnick]

Microwave length, depending on the version, ranges from 995 to 1015 millimeters, and the mass is 4,2 kilograms with an empty magazine and a mounted optical sight. The weapon is equipped with a barrel length of 410 millimeters. The microwave has an aiming range of 1200 meters.

Compare with performance characteristics.RPK-16:
Caliber - 5,45 mm.
The cartridge - 5,45x39 mm.
Weight - 4,5 kg (short barrel version without a magazine, bipod and telescopic sight).
Barrel length - 415 or 580 mm.
The length of the weapon (with a barrel 415 mm) - 840-900 mm in a combat position, 650 mm with a folded butt.
Magazine capacity - 30, 45 cartridges (box) or 95 cartridges (drum).
Rate of fire - up to 700 rds / min.
The effective firing range is 600 m (in single-flame mode or in short bursts).
Single mode is possible from a closed shutter.
Sight - optical

[Konnick]

Compare with performance characteristics.RPK-16:
Caliber - 5,45 mm.
The cartridge - 5,45x39 mm.
Weight - 4,5 kg (short barrel version without a magazine, bipod and telescopic sight).
Barrel length - 415 or 580 mm.
The length of the weapon (with a barrel 415 mm) - 840-900 mm in a combat position, 650 mm with a folded butt.
Magazine capacity - 30, 45 cartridges (box) or 95 cartridges (drum).
Rate of fire - up to 700 rds / min.
The effective firing range is 600 m (in single-flame mode or in short bursts).
Single mode is possible from a closed shutter.
Sight - optical

And this is an initiative development of designers. Universal weapons - machine gun, machine gun and sniper. Cartridge 5,45x39, unification. The accuracy of single shots from a closed shutter at a distance of 500 meters is higher than that of the SVD.

[frog]

Without a tambourine, it’s like a be not very interesting, this is a modular product. Well, and so, the brilliant gentleman already mentioned here, back in 2018, announced a signed contract for the supply to the troops ....... 4 years have passed and we just have heaps of them ....

[Konnick]

You can have a tambourine for 95 rounds, you can have a 4-row one, or you can simply use a machine gun. The cartridge is 5,45x39, with a long barrel of 580 mm, the sound and flash are much less than those of the microwave. And the accuracy at 500 meters, the most running distances, thanks to the thick machine-gun barrel, is better than that of the SVD and, of course, than that of the short-barreled microwave.

[frog]

That much is possible . But still, there seems to be no tambourine yet, a 4-row one is finally a separate song, I would even say, an opera.
And without them ..... Without them, this is a good machine, of course, but .... not very relevant. Razie what is in the future, but that's it ....
And so here in 2019 they wrote about this device

[Konnick]

Without them, this is a good machine, of course, but .... not very relevant. Razie what is in the future, but that's it ....

It seems that they have worked out a tambourine, although a tambourine from RPK-74 is also suitable.
I just wanted to say that the use of this device as a purely sniper, which could replace the SVD in the squad, as it is now fashionable to call the Marskman rifle chambered for mod. 43g. An inconspicuous shot at distances of about 500 meters is worth a lot. A microwave with a rifle cartridge and a 410mm barrel will sound and blaze stronger than large-caliber sniper rifles. Without BPS, I wouldn't want to have it.

[frog]

It seems that they have worked out a tambourine, although a tambourine from RPK-74 is also suitable.

Then one of two))) Either everything is as usual, or the warriors need this device without need
The fact that this rifle in the version with the shooter is better than the proposed monster is obviously hard to argue here.
Yes, and finally, the conversation should not be conducted for iron)))) Although there are a few questions with him ....

[Romanenko]

Finally, it's time for the chukavinka to appear in business, she's worth it

[Olgerd Gediminovich]

Maybe missed something?
And when were they adopted?

[Konnick]

Explain why microwave is better than SVD or even a sniper version of SVT? The fact that it shoots one and a half times louder from its short barrel? 630 for SVT, 620 for SVD, .... and some 410 for microwave. The difference is 20 cm, and the characteristics promised the same, even better. Did they cheat the laws of physics? With an old cartridge?

[hhurik]

The presence of a regular seat for optics / nightlights / greenhouses in the form of a long bar. To quickly remove / install devices, depending on the need, without shifting the STP. Actually, it’s the same with AK - it’s impossible to reliably attach anything there without a radical change in design. And this is some kind of shame - when everyone sees you at night, and you - no one.
But the microwave muzzle device should also have a standard device for various devices; it is impossible to hang them on a standard SVD.

[Konnick]

The fashion has already passed on sniper teplyaks, there are no suicides. If the sniper will work at night, then this will not be long.

[IVZ]

The lengths of the barrels, as well as the basis of the design, have been befriending similar ARs. There is a fashion for short trunks, but with long PMS.

[acetophenone]

Am I the only one who thinks that what is missing is not sniper rifles, but snipers?

[azkolt]

Quote from AUL

Yes zadolbal already with his indefatigable uryakony! As if working on a piecework basis. How many nicknames he already had - and in all the same, a protracted orgasm for any official message. It seems to him that paper shoulder straps with big stars are very dear to him.
You have to be more modest, girl! (C)

Well, let's get drunk. Get started!

[Peter1First]

barrel 410mm for a rifle cartridge? Not small?

[Bronik]

Why didn't they write that this weapon has no analogues in the world? Very strange.

[Nikolay Dyaglev]

By and large, just a re-barreled weapon under NATO cartridges. There are no other supposed benefits. Who needs a submachine gun at all? Who in their right mind would trade AKMS for this fart? What is the gain? Why do you need barrels for NATO cartridges? How we managed without them for 80 years, I'll never know))) In short, I am categorically against such "innovations"

[Konnick]

The microwave has an effective firing range of 1200 meters.

And with what cartridge?
What is the point of publishing such an article on the site when everything has been written on other sites for a long time?

[Konnick]

Quote: Alex777

PPK-20 is your first version.
This one was adopted:

The main thing is to paint the nails correctly, not to confuse the order of painting.

[Olgerd Gediminovich]

Where is AM-17?
Five years have passed. So it hasn't been improved?
In the army, probably, a compact machine gun chambered for the same cartridge as the main armament is more valuable than a police PP chambered for a not-so-common pistol cartridge.

[John22]

The length of the microwave barrel is surprising! By definition, a rifle must have a barrel of 500 mm or more. Less is already carbines and machine guns. Even more so with a sniper rifle. You can talk a lot about the design, but it was used back in 1942 in ICD-42 and PPS-42. Later in the West it was repeated, in Russia it was applied only now.

[Hindu]

Quote: Bronik

Why didn't they write that this weapon has no analogues in the world? Very strange.

It goes without saying

[Ingenegr]

Quote: Alex777

integrated Picatinny rail, which is a modern stable platform for mounting any modern sights

To put it mildly, this is "I would like to." In reality, the quoted phrase is not true in the part relating specifically to "stability". Thoughtfulness and digging in memory or records when re-installing a sight that once stood and "nailed" to it cannot be considered "stability".

[firemann]

How does the PPK-20 differ from the Vityaz, which has been in service for 20 years?

[frog]

Purely IMHO, but at a cost. And not only at the cost of the device itself, as such

[keleg]

A cloud after all video where it is all told. Smaller dimensions, larger line of sight.