Is it raining in Santiago?

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Is it raining in Santiago?

In previous articles (first, second) was told about how Salvador Allende became president, and Augusto Pinochet became a general. On the reforms of the Allende government, sanctions and sabotage. And also about the revolt of El Tanquetazo. Today we will continue this story and talk about the tragic events that took place in this country on September 11, 1973.

"It's raining in Santiago"?


This famous phrase, which allegedly served as a signal for the beginning of the rebellion, is not mentioned in foreign sources, but is extremely popular throughout the post-Soviet space. The reason is simple: that was the title of a film by Chilean director Elvio Soto, filmed in 1976 in Bulgaria with French participation.




Shot from the movie "It's raining in Santiago"

The most curious thing is that in the film this phrase serves as a password just for the supporters of President Allende - this is how they inform everyone about the beginning of the rebellion. In fact, this phrase, most likely, was simply invented by the screenwriters of this film, however, the conspiracy and military coup on September 11, 1973 in Chile were very real and very bloody.

Preparations for the coup were carried out under the guise of military maneuver planning. fleet - joint with American warships. In 1998, the US National Security Agency declassified a number of documents relating to the "FUBELT project", from which it became clear that CIA agents participated not only in measures to destabilize the situation in Chile, but also in the preparation of the putsch on September 11, 1973. According to various sources, the Americans spent from 6,5 to 8 million dollars.

At 4 am on September 11, the commanders of military garrisons throughout Chile, in response to requests from the Ministry of Defense, announced their readiness to follow orders. The alarmed soldiers began to leave the barracks. About half past seven, Allende was informed that naval sailors were taking control of the port of Valparaiso. His attempts to contact Pinochet and the commanders of all branches of the military were unsuccessful. And at 7 o'clock in the morning, army units entered almost all more or less large and significant cities of the country. The headquarters of the socialist and communist parties were taken by storm.


One of the streets of Santiago, September 11, 1973

At about half past seven in the morning, Allende arrived at the presidential residence, La Moneda Palace, located in the center of Santiago. Here he recorded his first radio address to the Chilean people. And for 8 hours, the rebels had occupied the ministry building, located next to the La Moneda Palace. At around 8:20 a.m., Allende was contacted by his assistant, Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Robert Sanchez. He told him that the Air Force Chief of Staff, General Gabriel von Chauvin, was offering a plane that would take the president to any country in the world. Allende replied:

"Tell von Chauvin that the President of Chile is not going anywhere."

By the way, Allende until the last minute did not doubt Pinochet's loyalty and believed that he was arrested by the rebels.

At half past eight, the opposition radio station Radio Agricultura was the first to inform everyone about the military coup, demanding the resignation of Allende.

Around 9 o'clock, the Marines took full control of the port of Valparaiso. It was around this time that Allende made his final radio address to the nation. And at 9:45 a.m., the police and carabinieri guarding it left the presidential residence. Now the palace was defended only by the civilian supporters of Allende, who had at their disposal only light infantry weapon. Among them were 10 women, including Allende's three daughters. By 10 o'clock in the morning, the presidential palace was surrounded by rebellious army units, commanded by General Javier Palacios.


Positions of the rebels in front of the presidential palace

About half past 11 Tanks fired several demonstrative shots.

In this shot from the Soviet film Centaurs (1978), the president of a fictional Latin American country, Allende's "doppelgänger", fights off General Pina's rebels by firing RPG-7s at tanks:


In fact, Allende looked less heroic then:


Salvador Allende September 11, 1973, last photo of the President

However, this small man, not at all like a superman, behaved very worthily - not like the coward Yanukovych.

After the start of the shelling of the palace from tank guns, Allende demanded that the rebels allow the women to leave - they left at about 10 hours and 50 minutes. Immediately afterwards, the rebels issued an ultimatum for unconditional surrender within 5 minutes. Having received a refusal, at 11 o'clock an order was given to start shelling the palace. Its defenders, including Allende himself, responded with small arms fire.


Presidential Palace of La Moneda 11 September 1973

Then it was even more interesting: at 11:55, La Moneda was attacked by two Hawker Hunter fighters, which fired 18 missiles at the palace. Their impact caused the collapse of the ceiling and a fire. Allende was then injured by broken glass. At about 13 pm, he shot himself with an AK-47 assault rifle given to him by Castro. Streets in the USSR and in some European countries will be named after Allende, he will become the hero of books, films, in 2000 his monument will appear next to the presidential palace of La Moneda.


Monument to Allende in Santiago

Pinochet, "having won the battle", unconditionally lost the "war for Chile".


Pinochet with his adjutants, 1973

But let's go back to September 11, 1973 and see that after Allende's suicide, the surviving defenders of the La Moneda palace left it at about half past two with a white flag in their hands.


Arrest of Allende supporters

The hatred of the rebels for Allende was so great that they "shot" the discovered body of the deceased president.

Now there has been an official announcement that Chile is now headed by a military junta, which, in addition to Pinochet, included the commander of the Navy, Admiral José Toribio Merino, the commander of the Air Force, General Gustavo Li, and the acting director of the Carabinieri Corps, General Cesar Mendoza.


Cesar Mendoza, Jose Toribio Merino, Augusto Pinochet and Gustavo Lee

I must say that Pinochet very quickly got rid of his "co-rulers" and became the sole dictator. Gustavo Lee and Merino were fired, and Bonilla died in a plane crash that many consider to be no accident. In 1974, a law was passed in Chile, according to which Pinochet was declared "the supreme bearer of power." He now had the power to impose a state of siege, approve or repeal any laws and regulations, remove and appoint judges.

The putschists justified their actions "desire to prevent civil warand protect Chile fromMarxist threat". Even the centrist Christian Democratic Party, which supported the September 11, 1973 coup, was banned in 1974 (at the initiative of Pablo Rodriguez, the founder of the far-right Motherland and Freedom movement).

To combat political opponents, the National Intelligence Directorate (Dirección de Inteligencia Nacional, DINA) was created, which both in Chile and abroad was compared to the Gestapo. Incidentally, former SS Colonel Walter Rauff served in this Directorate, who during the Second World War commanded a detachment of mobile gas chambers in the eastern occupied territories and was involved in the murder of 100 people.

The terror unleashed by the junta was called "temporary tightening of the regime" necessary for "reassurance","putting things in order", economic and political "recovery". During the reign of Pinochet DINA, hundreds of thousands of people were arrested, and it must be said that the Chilean junta managed to shock the whole world with its bestial cruelty and a huge number of victims. The death toll is still debated. On October 8, 1973, American journalist John Barnes published an article in Newsweek stating that 14 corpses with signs of violent death were delivered to the Santiago Central Morgue alone in the first 2796 days after the coup. It should be noted that not only the military or the police were killed then, but also activists of right-wing parties and latifundists returning to their lands. The exact number of their victims is unknown.

What is the total number of victims of the September 11, 1973 coup? Some researchers talk about 30 thousand people. By August 2011, a special commission headed by Bishop Sergio Valeche had documented the identity of 3065 victims of terror, and the number of political prisoners was 40 (with a population of 018 million people). However, many people are still missing, and this list is not final. The number of people subjected to torture is determined at 10,2 thousand people: some of them died, most of them went to prison, and only a few managed to get free. About a million Chileans - 38% of the total population - fled the country, including 10% of Chilean Jews.

The Left Revolutionary Movement (MIR), founded in 1964, suffered the greatest losses: 92% of its members either died or were arrested during the first days after the putsch.

Immediately after the coup, a network of filtration camps was created, where everyone suspected of sympathizing with the Allende government was taken. Often, city stadiums were used for these purposes. The prisoners were also housed in the huge sports complex of Santiago, part of which is the Nacional de Chile football stadium, where the country's football team played its home games since 1939, and in 1962 the final match of the World Cup took place. In the same year, the national team of this country won the match for 3rd place here. Currently, Nacional continues to be the home stadium for the national team and is the base of the Universidad de Chile club. In addition to the stadium, this sports complex includes a velodrome, tennis courts, swimming pools and a large gymnasium. During the tragic events of the autumn of 1973, the arrested men were kept in the under-tribune premises of the stadium, women - in the changing rooms of the swimming pool and adjacent buildings, interrogations were carried out at the velodrome. The football field and stands were used only for temporary accommodation.


Nacional de Chile, September 1973


Under-tribune premises

According to some reports, this complex finally ceased to be used as a filtration camp only on November 9 - 2 weeks before the FIFA-appointed match between the USSR and Chile national football teams (the return play-off match of the 1974 World Cup qualifying tournament). The Soviet Union severed relations with Chile on September 22 - 4 days before the first match, which took place in Moscow (and ended in a goalless draw). Meanwhile, it was quite realistic to agree on two matches on neutral fields. Moreover, Pinochet, fearing that many players would wish to stay in the USSR, did not want to send the Chilean national team to the first game (maybe the Soviet officials were counting on this?). But time was lost, and the demand of Soviet party and sports officials to transfer the second match to a neutral field was frankly unfair to the Chilean team. Moreover, in the same November 1973, before the alleged meeting with the USSR national team, games were held at this stadium with teams from Peru (November 14) and Argentina (November 18), whose federations did not raise any objections.


A poster showing the schedule of football matches at the Nacional de Chile stadium in November 1973, showing the prices of entrance tickets

The FIFA leadership showed integrity, which was so lacking in 2022 for Infantino, who followed the lead of the Polish federation, which refused to send his team to the match against the Russians. At the appointed time, the Chilean national team entered the field, brought the ball to an empty net with a reshuffle, and captain Francisco Valdez sent it into the net. The referee then blew the final whistle. None of this was actually required: according to the regulations, the USSR national team was credited with a technical defeat. The Soviet Football Federation was fined 5 Swiss francs and had to pay the costs of the Chilean national team related to its trip to Moscow.

Knowing that there would be no match with the USSR national team, the Chilean authorities invited the famous Santos club from Brazil. The Brazilians did not look for political prisoners on the lawn and stands of Nacional de Chile: they took the field and “rolled out” the local team with a score of 5:0, perhaps expressing their attitude towards Pinochet and the Junta in this way - it’s a pity that such an opportunity failed to take advantage of the Soviet players.

Let us return to the tragic events of September 1973. One of the priests who confessed the prisoners of the Santiago sports complex was a certain “Father Juan”, who turned out to be Jan Skavronek, a Pole sentenced to death in his homeland for participating in the massacres of Jews and local anti-fascists. At the same time, among the prisoners there were 4 Belgian Catholic priests who tried to stand up for children beaten by soldiers in one of the poor quarters of Santiago.

By the way, during the first month after the coup in Chile, 60 local priests were arrested, 12 of them were shot.

Some claim that between 50 and 250 people were shot daily in the Santiago sports complex alone, but this, of course, is a big exaggeration. At present, the identity of 38 people shot here has been precisely established (but there are also nameless victims). One of them is the famous singer, poet, director and active member of the communist party Victor Jara (his body with broken arms and 34 bullets was thrown on one of the streets of Santiago, but later the circumstances of death were precisely established).


Victor Jara

Let us note that the executions took place not on the football field, but in office premises. The reasons for the arrests then were sometimes the most ridiculous. Architect Maria Elena, for example, got to this stadium because her collection of coins included the Soviet ruble. And some women were suspected of "leftist views" and taken to the stadium because they were wearing trousers. In addition to the Chileans, there were also citizens of other states in this stadium, for example, two American students, one of whom, Frank Teruji, was shot.

During the coup, Allende's close friend Pablo Neruda, a Nobel Prize winner in literature, died. His death is shrouded in mystery, officially it was believed that he died of natural causes, but in 2015 the Chilean authorities reported that Neruda could have been poisoned. However, there is still no convincing evidence of poisoning. It is quite possible that the already elderly poet really died of a myocardial infarction or acute heart failure against the background of a nervous shock experienced during these days.


Pablo Neruda

At the same time, the world-famous Chilean anthropologist, ethnographer and medical doctor Alejandro Lipshütz, who was 90 years old, died without surviving the destruction of his house and the actual destruction of the library.

Alfanso Asenjo, one of the best neurosurgeons not only in Chile, but in all of Latin America, was suspended from work and also placed under house arrest. After his release, he chose to emigrate to Israel.

Denunciations were encouraged, and the small town of Chuquicamata in Chile was later named "cradle of informers”: 90 children and adolescents in it were reported to their parents.

It is curious that in many countries of modern Europe, children calmly report the "oppression" of their parents, and no one considers them "snitches". In Sweden, for example, the requirement to do homework is called "psychological abuse» over the child. And please clean your room - "coercion to excessive physical labor».

But back to Chile during the junta.

The methods of "working with the population" can be judged from the episode associated with a visit by Pinochet at the end of 1973 to the village of Quinta Bella. The dictator wished to attend the ceremony of renaming this settlement to Buin (this is the name of the Chilean regiment). To ensure the safety of the head of the junta, 5 thousand residents of the village were driven to the football field, 30 of them were shot, 170 people were taken hostage. They were released only after the departure of Pinochet.

Universities are now headed by career officers - almost according to Griboyedov: "Sergeant Major in Voltaire Ladies"Do you remember? For example, General Dalyeu became the rector of the capital's university.

Even more absurd was the situation in the Central Psychiatric Hospital of Santiago, whose chief physician was Claudio Molina, who had previously been treated in this clinic for alcoholism and schizophrenia. Molina ordered the execution of 5 doctors and fired several dozen employees. Some of them were later arrested.

Sometimes there are disputes whether it is possible to call Pinochet's regime fascist? But the foreign minister of the junta, Admiral Ismael Huerta, at the Pan-American meeting in Mexico in 1974, did not hesitate to say:

“I don’t know what is meant by the word ‘fascism’ today. When I was young, I visited Europe, and there this expression was applied to powerful, strong, able to lead governments. If this expression is applied to us because we are a strong government, then we are fascists.”

The general secretary of the Communist Party of Chile, well-known in the USSR, Luis Corvalan, went underground on September 11, 1973, but was arrested on September 27. December 18, 1976 he was exchanged for the dissident V. Bukovsky.


Luis Corvalan with his wife at the Moscow airport. December 27, 1976

After three plastic surgeries, the leader of the Chilean communists returned to his homeland and spent 6 years in an illegal position. You can be sure that in the event of an arrest, Corvalan would have been shot, and, most likely, without trial or investigation. And therefore, his courage, no matter how one relates to his views, cannot but arouse sincere admiration. Luis Corvalan died on July 21, 2010 in Santiago.

In the next article, we will talk about the Chilean reforms according to Friedman's recipes and "at gunpoint", their consequences and the armed struggle of the left parties.
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  1. +5
    14 August 2022 04: 42
    Pinochet with his adjutants, 1973
    And he is not afraid with such an adjutant, he will sell it.
    It is curious that in many countries of modern Europe, children calmly report the "oppression" of their parents, and no one considers them "snitches". In Sweden, for example, the requirement to do homework is called “psychological abuse” of a child. And the request to clean your room is “coercion to exorbitant physical labor.”
    Juvenile needs to be canceled so as not to produce freaks.
    The coup began in the early hours of September 11, when Chilean Navy ships participating in the United States joint maneuvers with the US Navy off the coast of Chile bombarded the port and city of Valparaiso. The landing troops captured the city, the headquarters of the parties belonging to the People's Unity bloc, radio stations, a television center and a number of strategic facilities.
    Well, where without the USA? There were a lot of "leftists" in the Navy, I remember reading that they were burned in the furnaces of ships.
    1. +3
      14 August 2022 05: 03
      Several hundred sailors and officers - supporters of Popular Unity, who refused to support the rebellion, were shot, and their corpses were thrown into the sea.
      Another edition with "VO" request
      1. +3
        14 August 2022 13: 19
        More precisely, an alternative version
    2. +5
      14 August 2022 08: 03
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      There were a lot of "leftists" in the Navy, I remember reading that they were burned in the furnaces of ships.

      There were no classic fireboxes on ships for about fifty years. For a long time they were replaced by internal combustion engines, and by the 70s turbojet engines began to appear ...
    3. +9
      14 August 2022 11: 42
      There were a lot of "leftists" in the Navy, I remember reading that they were burned in the furnaces of ships.


      Burned in furnaces? Why repeat the stupidity read incomprehensibly where. The Chilean Navy in 1973 was the strongest in Latin America, of course, compared to the leading countries, they were inferior in ships of the latest construction, but, of course, there were no steam ships with fireboxes in which to burn the "leftists" in their composition.
      Below is a photo of the cruiser O "Higgins of the Chilean Navy.


      By the way, all the arrested "leftists" were kept on the training sailing ship "Esmeralda", which used a diesel engine as an auxiliary engine, so there were no fireboxes either. laughing
      1. +3
        14 August 2022 15: 12
        Quote: Sea Cat
        The Chilean Navy in 1973 was the strongest in Latin America,

        The Chilean Navy has ALWAYS been the strongest in Latin America, request
        1. 0
          16 August 2022 20: 09
          Not Brazilian?
    4. +1
      14 August 2022 17: 17
      "Pinochet with his Adjutants" the right face has such a mug that he was about to bite Pinochet or swallowed rotten
    5. 0
      15 August 2022 13: 01
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Juvenile needs to be canceled so as not to produce freaks.

      Only this is worth asking, but who exactly do you consider "freaks"? It just so happened that specifically in Sweden there are actually very low quantitative indicators for serious violent crimes - murders, rapes, robberies ....
  2. +8
    14 August 2022 04: 58
    Traded a bully
    For Luis Corvalan...
  3. +9
    14 August 2022 05: 09
    "It's raining in Santiago"...
    apparently because "A cloudless sky over all Spain" was ....
  4. +9
    14 August 2022 05: 13
    One of the most tragic stories of social reform attempts. How many were there? The situation in some countries first turned into a civil war, in others, as in Chile, immediately to repression, in others, as in the Russian Federation of the 90s, to the collapse of the country and society. Yes, in the end, decades later, if the country retained its subjectivity at all, a certain balance was established, but it did not guarantee a 'final' resolution of internal contradictions anywhere.
  5. +6
    14 August 2022 05: 27
    "The hatred of the rebels for Allende was so great that they" shot "the discovered body of the deceased president."

    Allende's suicide is a very profitable junta and therefore a dubious version.
    More details at the link

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%82%D1%8C_%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0_%D0%90%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B5

    Once the president's body was in the possession of the rebels, they could do whatever they wanted with it. What exactly should be done could well have been suggested by the CIA agents who orchestrated the mutiny. To imagine a murder as a suicide is easy for any special service.
    Moreover, suicide from a machine gun donated by Castro is both symbolic and too convenient for the conspirators.
    1. +2
      14 August 2022 06: 11
      The CIA is a dirty people ... they shit everywhere they go ... many respected people were killed on their orders and recommendations.
      It is necessary to introduce a catalog of CIA agents on VO and track their activities throughout their lives.
    2. VLR
      +9
      14 August 2022 09: 05
      I still think it was suicide. Firstly, the people who were next to Allende were ready to fight for him to the end and left the palace only because there was no one to fight for. Perhaps Allende, realizing that he was doomed, shot himself because he hoped in this way to save these people's lives. Secondly, after the death of Pinochet, a trial was held. examination precisely with the aim of refuting the version of Allende's suicide - so that Pinochet could also be accused of murdering the legitimate president - but confirmed the fact of suicide.
      1. +4
        14 August 2022 09: 48
        Politics is everywhere in the modern world.
        The results of the examination will depend on who does it.
        How many examinations of all sorts of different were on Novichok, on the poisoning of the 3rd President of Ukraine Yushchenko. Any number of examples. And what? With each new examination, the truth is further and further away. From a complex case, it becomes dark and cloudy, overgrown with contradictory versions, each with its own arguments.

        I dare say that it is generally impossible to establish the truth about high-profile political murders, and therefore
        The principle of Roman law: is fecit, cui prodest - made by the one who benefits from it ... every time more and more relevant.
    3. +1
      14 August 2022 11: 04
      My grandmother told me that Allende could only press the trigger.
      Then there was D / F and some kind of rebel. He said: there was a machine gun with an empty magazine nearby. It can be seen that he immediately released it out the window
      Suicide suited the rebels in the same way: we did not kill. And left propaganda: did not surrender to the Nazis
      1. -1
        14 August 2022 18: 00
        I remember this movie.
    4. 0
      14 August 2022 17: 59
      We then shouted from every iron: Allende preferred to shoot himself to captivity
  6. +5
    14 August 2022 06: 08
    I remember the slogans in the USSR ... Freedom to Luis Corvalan ... oh, there was a time ... not like the current tribe. smile
    1. +3
      14 August 2022 10: 37
      I agree completely with the previous speaker. I've lived in this world for a long time...
      I remember still Soviet schoolchildren went from apartment to apartment and collected signatures against the Vietnam War. Then at school they told me to collect signatures for Angela Davis, but my dad did not allow me. He said that this is a muddy story and it’s better not to go into what you don’t know.
      1. +2
        14 August 2022 14: 24
        We, too, something Davis was not quoted. I don't remember something
  7. +13
    14 August 2022 06: 16
    The history of the human spirit. And the desire for the best. They were all heroes. And by the way, an instructive story, especially for everyone in Russia who wants to shoot and kill civilians who are not satisfied with the policy of the ruling elite at the moment. you can live your people better.
    Good article! Yes
  8. VLR
    +8
    14 August 2022 06: 25
    A bit about "political football". I studied the issue and got a small essay for some sports publication, but as a result, a few sentences remained from him in the article. So let me add a little more...
    The next World Cup in 1974 was to be held in 8 cities of Germany and in West Berlin. In Europe, 9 qualifying groups were formed, but only 8 teams that took first places reached the final of this prestigious tournament directly. The national team, which got into the 9th group, was supposed to play play-offs with one of the South American teams. The fact is that in this group there were only three teams, and in the rest - four. In the 9th group were the teams of Russia, France and Ireland. Such well-known football players as O. Blokhin, E. Lovchev, V. Muntyan, O. Dolmatov, V. Gutsaev, V. Onishchenko, A. Byshovets took part in the qualifying tournament. A. Ponomarev was originally appointed as the coach, but after the defeat in the first match in Paris, he was replaced by E. Goryansky from
    Leningrad "Zenith".
    Soviet party and sports officials hoped that Pinochet would not let the national team go to Moscow and missed the time to negotiate matches on two neutral fields. But the doctor of the Chilean national team was also the personal doctor of the commander of the Air Force of this country, he managed through him to bring to Pinochet the idea that the refusal to go to Moscow would be perceived in the world as a sign of the weakness of the new regime.
    After the Chileans nevertheless arrived, Soviet officials began to hope for a victory with a big score - in this case, it would be possible not to go to Santiago, having received a technical defeat.
    In Moscow on September 26, 1973, during the game with the Chileans, it was minus 4 degrees! But “General Frost” did not help: with the total advantage of Soviet football players, the Chileans defended competently, and their goalkeeper Olivares played an outstanding match and took everything that flew into the goal.
    The second coach of the national team A. Paramonov wrote:
    “We had many chances to score, but the ball did not go into the goal. This does not mean that ours played poorly, their goalkeeper played brilliantly. He dragged balls that, it would seem, should have been scored.
    The central defender of the guests Figueroa recalled:
    "On this cold evening we played very well, and our goalkeeper Olivares was just brilliant."
    In Chile, the absence of the USSR national team, quite expectedly, was explained by cowardice and the fact that, having failed to win in Moscow, the Soviet football players were afraid of a guest defeat. Chilean football star Chilean national football star Carlos Casselli, a principle opponent of Pinochet, whose mother was arrested while he was playing in Spain, wrote:
    “It is a pity that the fate of the match was not decided on the field. We had the courage to go to play in Russia and they could come to Chile.”
    All over the world, the refusal of the USSR national team from the match with the Chileans also caused bewilderment. Friends and allies of our country were silent, ill-wishers published caustic comments.
    The Chileans then tied with the GDR and Australia, lost to the FRG and did not leave the group. And the USSR national team next time was able to qualify only for the 1982 World Cup and the 1988 European Championship.
  9. +8
    14 August 2022 07: 41
    All extrajudicial killings committed during the military coup of 1973 and after it fell under the amnesty law announced by Pinochet in 1978. The amnesty law was not repealed after the fall of the Pinochet dictatorship, and the Chilean courts did not consider claims from victims of the 1973 coup. Although some organizers of terror have been condemned to date.
  10. 0
    14 August 2022 10: 29
    "until the last he did not doubt Pinochet's loyalty," probably Pinochet was ashamed to communicate with Allende?
  11. +5
    14 August 2022 11: 21
    In 1990, the Pinochets were expected, and the Gaidars solved the problem. More cruel methods, given that this is not Chile, but the USSR - the second most powerful superpower.
  12. -6
    14 August 2022 12: 44
    Doesn't fit like..
    To get to the stadium for the Sevetian ruble in the collection - you have to run through the streets and shout "But I have a ruble !!!". I can believe that an army patrol could rake women in trousers so that the soldiers understand the iron foreign lol honey...

    "Bloody dictator" and only 30 killed
    1. VLR
      +8
      14 August 2022 14: 09
      Regarding the ruble: do you think this woman had no "friends"? Who could easily settle old, still girlish, scores and convey, "where it's supposed to"?
      Well, 30 thousand - it must be taken into account that the population of Chile at that time was about 10 million. Make a proportion, taking the population of Russia.
      1. -7
        14 August 2022 14: 43
        Numismatics - conjures in silence, for himself. Collectors rarely boast
        1. VLR
          +6
          14 August 2022 15: 18
          Any collector experiences great pleasure, showing their "treasures" or a rare or especially valuable acquisition. Unless, of course, they were acquired by criminal means, or - their possession may pose a potential danger .. And the Soviet ruble in Chile, of course, was a rarity, and, moreover, under the socialist Allende, it never occurred to anyone that its presence in the collection could become dangerous.
          1. VLR
            +7
            14 August 2022 15: 30
            The ruble, by the way, was probably like this:

  13. +2
    14 August 2022 14: 17
    Good afternoon. Yesterday I couldn’t write, with the little one we went shopping.
    She is attached to me as an older friend, only that my mother does not say.
    Why did Allende's socialism "fail"?
    2 mistakes: there was no union of workers and peasants. Local Indians socialism. .. purple
    In the context of an almost equal number of supporters and opponents of reforms
    Allende had to remember the NEP
    Crazy inflation, crime, but the government outlined the framework: private property, cooperatives, concessions. For 3 years, the food shortage disappeared, there was competition and foreign capital made concessions. At first, they dictated conditions, and then made concessions
    There is a book: "Berezhkov" how I was Stalin's translator "
    Allende wanted everything at once
  14. 0
    14 August 2022 23: 11
    During the reign of Pinochet, the DINA were hundreds of thousands arrested, and I must say that the Chilean junta managed to shock the whole world with its bestial cruelty and a huge number of victims.

    и
    By August 2011, a special commission led by Bishop Sergio Valeche had documented the identity of 3065 victims of terror, the number of political prisoners is set at 40

    So "hundreds of thousands" or 40 thousand? Judging by the given population of Chile (10,2 million), it turns out that terror affected 0.5% of the country's population.
    1. VLR
      +3
      15 August 2022 07: 17
      Not all those arrested were convicted. Hundreds of thousands are those who passed through the filtration camps and were then arrested on denunciations. More than 40 thousand received real sentences. So, for example, women who were seized on the streets for wearing trousers were not sent to prison. They mocked, some were even raped, but after a while they were released.
      1. 0
        15 August 2022 11: 36
        Not all those arrested were convicted.

        Judging by the number you cited of those who received real terms, most of those arrested were released after verification, right? Therefore, there was no indiscriminate trust in denunciations.
        no women were sent to prison who were seized on the streets for wearing trousers.

        the question is how many such facts took place and whether it was always only about trousers.
        The article also says, for example: "From 50 to 250 people were shot daily at the Santiago sports complex, but this, of course, is a big exaggeration. At present, the identity of 38 people who were shot here has been precisely established (but there are also nameless victims)."
        So far, the article gives the impression that the terror was of a targeted nature: the target was the left-wing parties and their activists. And it was by no means about the total physical destruction.
        1. VLR
          +1
          15 August 2022 12: 45
          Particularly massive, which struck everyone, were the repressions of the first two months, then they "rowed" everyone in a row, especially without understanding and without ceremony, there were many extrajudicial reprisals. Through the same Nacional de Chile (the entire sports complex), then, from September 11 to November 9, up to 40 thousand people passed: someone was killed there, someone was transferred to prison, some were released after checks. Because someone had to work, to feed the junta and the "oligarchs". The Left Revolutionary Movement (MIR) was especially hard hit, as the article said - 92% of the members were killed or arrested. A strong blow to MAPU, the Communist Party, the Socialist Party. Then they began to try to improve their reputation and observe at least some semblance of legality. But the country was kept, in the words of Pinochet "in iron pants", crushed any attempts to show discontent. More on this in the next article.
          1. -1
            15 August 2022 16: 44
            Actually, again, you confirmed the above - after the coup, the left parties were hard-wired. Members and activists of these parties and gave most of the victims (within 1% of the country's population). Plus, of course, a certain number of those who fell under the "hot hand" or from the settling of personal accounts.
            In Argentina, it was much worse, it should be noted.
            But the country was kept, in the words of Pinochet "in iron pants", crushed any attempts to show discontent.

            It is difficult to see something uniquely Chilean in this. In the already herbivorous version of the USSR, for manifestations of political discontent in 1973, one could make .. uh .. a lot of trouble. And if something more serious than posters and self-publishing, then you could earn a "tower" without problems - Sablin confirmed cap-3, if he could.
            About the encouragement of the institution of denunciation, including children, ahem .. well, it’s embarrassing to draw analogies here.
  15. +1
    15 August 2022 08: 52
    Even more absurd was the situation in the Central Psychiatric Hospital of Santiago, whose chief physician was Claudio Molina, who had previously been treated in this clinic for alcoholism and schizophrenia.

    That's really, really: a dream come true id iota.
  16. +1
    15 August 2022 11: 02
    After reading this article, I again want to express my admiration for Allende!
  17. 0
    16 August 2022 00: 37
    el Final when the ramp of the plane opens over the sea and adios muchachos, but this is not Chile, this is different
  18. +1
    16 August 2022 00: 53
    Quote: Astra wild2
    Why did Allende's socialism "fail"? Allende wanted everything at once

    CIA, military aviation, economic blockade - we don’t notice point-blank, but the color revolution was what was done in America during our lifetime .. or all this was invented in Hollywood
  19. 0
    16 August 2022 13: 49
    The methods of "working with the population" can be judged from the episode associated with a visit by Pinochet at the end of 1973 to the village of Quinta Bella. The dictator wished to attend the ceremony of renaming this settlement to Buin (this is the name of the Chilean regiment). To ensure the safety of the head of the junta, 5 thousand residents of the village were driven to the football field, 30 of them were shot, 170 people were taken hostage. They were released only after the departure of Pinochet.