“They don’t want to die for Zelensky”: residents of Zaporozhye resist the Ukrainian authorities

110

The photo is illustrative.


Residents of the city of Zaporozhye, the regional center of the Zaporozhye region, which is still under the control of Ukrainian troops, are increasingly expressing their rejection of the policies of the Kyiv authorities. This discontent takes active forms and actually turns into resistance to the Ukrainian authorities. This was told by a member of the council of the military-civilian administration of the Zaporozhye region (pro-Russian) Vladimir Rogov.



Recall that now the Russian armed forces control 70% of the territory of the Zaporozhye region, including the entire coast of the Sea of ​​​​Azov and such important cities in the region as Berdyansk, Melitopol and Energodar. However, the regional center of the Zaporozhye region, the city of Zaporozhye, is still under the control of Kyiv. But in the regional center, the Ukrainian authorities face many problems.

As told in an interview RIA News Vladimir Rogov, now the Ukrainian authorities will write off the territorial defense in the part of the Zaporozhye region that remains under the control of Kyiv. This decision is not advertised by Kyiv, since it is connected with the fact that the Cossacks for the most part do not want to fight with Russian troops. There is a huge likelihood of territorial defense formations going over to the Russian side, so Kyiv understands what to give weapon Cossacks can't. They do not want to die for Zelensky, a representative of the Zaporozhye military-civilian administration emphasized.

According to Rogov, there have already been several clashes between the barrage detachments, staffed by Ukrainian nationalists, and territorial defense fighters from Zaporozhye, who were forcibly enlisted in these formations. There is no doubt that in the future the number of such collisions will only increase.

Zaporozhye region becomes irretrievably lost for Kyiv region. Now the Russian Armed Forces and local authorities are establishing a peaceful life in the region. For example, a new university has appeared in Melitopol, and school teachers are sent to retraining and advanced training courses in the Russian Federation.

Realizing that Russia is forever, many residents of Zaporozhye, who previously did not dare to openly oppose the Ukrainian authorities, will change their positions. Moreover, life itself in the Russian-controlled part of the region is already setting its priorities. For someone - construction, economic development, opening of new educational institutions, social benefits, and for someone - forced mobilization, sending to certain death, repressions and excesses of nationalists. It is possible that soon such an understanding of the real situation will come to residents of other regions - Odessa, Nikolaev, Dnepropetrovsk and other regions.
110 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. +14
    12 August 2022 10: 25
    Residents of Zaporozhye resist the Ukrainian authorities

    ***
    "We want such an autocrat, a master in our land, like your royal mercy, an Orthodox Christian tsar ... We humbly surrender to the merciful feet of your royal majesty" ...
    ---
    “To your royal majesty, the lowest servants Bogdan Khmelnitsky,
    hetman with the army of Zaporozhye"
    November 1648, XNUMX

    ***
    1. +18
      12 August 2022 10: 29
      Zelensky's regime is being blown away like a used condom, that's a fact. The overwhelming majority do not want to fight for the Fuhrer Ze, it's true. But to say that in Zaporizhzhya, in Nikolaev, Kyiv they are waiting for us with joy, I would not begin either.
      1. +9
        12 August 2022 10: 36
        Changing shoes on the go. They see that the old government is not "might". That they haven’t figured out the new one yet, but I don’t want to lose the old and acquired buns. So they will begin to hand over "glory to Ukraine" for scrap.
        1. +3
          12 August 2022 14: 31
          "Changing shoes on the go passes"
          Always and everywhere - 98% does what the other 2% imposes on him ... "People" is a complementary concept of the expression: b.y.d.l.o, crowd, and so on ...
          On the territory of used, this is a centuries-old tradition, as well as the mentality - "My hut is on the edge" ...
          For this reason, in second-hand before the USSR, except for individual cities, stone buildings were not built and cattle were not bred - a hut with a thatched roof, it is built from shit and sticks in a week, a piglet grows for 6 months, beet for vodka too - enough for life. .. We understood that foreigners would come, break and take away ... But to fight for our own, no, we are not like that ...
          For this reason, everyone has had them for centuries: Turks, Poles, Swedes, Russians, Austrians, now Anglo-Saxons ... Whoever is lucky, they go on that ...
          There will never be any second-hand partisanship, well, except perhaps episodes among the westerners ... And the territorial battalions of the National Guard created in Chechnya from the ethnic Nokhchi "South", "East", "West", "North" will be cut out without pity all possible "partisans", it's not us - kind Russians, you won't spoil them and you won't hand them a bribe, they themselves will give money to anyone you want ... EVERYONE liquidated their "shatans" in 20 years, put things in order in Syria, and with stubborn x .o.h.l.a.m. and they will figure it out ...
  2. Two
    +1
    12 August 2022 10: 28
    hi They have absolutely no historical memory!
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. 0
      12 August 2022 10: 31
      Quote: Dos
      hi They have absolutely no historical memory!

      About the Zaporozhian Sich?
      1. The comment was deleted.
        1. The comment was deleted.
    3. The comment was deleted.
      1. +5
        12 August 2022 11: 38
        If in Zaporozhye these dissenters are cut out, as they are trying to do in Nikolaev, there will be no one to help us.
  3. +5
    12 August 2022 10: 30
    The head of administration voices his Wishlist.
    1. +2
      12 August 2022 10: 32
      Quote: mordvin xnumx
      The head of administration voices his Wishlist.

      Rather, the official position of the higher management ...
      1. -3
        12 August 2022 10: 38
        Quote from U_GOREC
        Rather, the official position of the higher management ...

        And if he starts to balaban differently, then he will be quickly fired.
  4. +14
    12 August 2022 10: 30
    But acquaintances from Zaporizhia itself adhere to a slightly different position. They don't support Zelensky, of course. But they are not going to fight or die for Russia either. As well as for Ukraine, however ...
    1. +4
      12 August 2022 10: 35
      It is clear that your friends are your friends.
      1. -3
        12 August 2022 11: 58
        Quote: Cooper
        It is clear that your friends are your friends.

        And not ss.klivye are those who go to fight and die for the interests of the oligarchs? What do I understand about our military - we live under capitalism, we have a contract army, they receive a salary for their work. But h.o.h.l.a.m why fight? For Akhmetov and Kolomoisky, what would they keep their assets? Or for Russia, which will take away these assets from them and give them to their Akhmetovs / Kolomoiskys? They won't get anything either way. They now have one goal - to survive in all this massacre! What does it matter who wins and under whose authority this or that region will be. Therefore, the bulk will wait until it all ends. Otherwise, today you will support Russia, and tomorrow your region will be exchanged for something and you will return to power h.o.h.l.y ... After all, our government, like any other, acts in the interests of the ruling class! And who is he? And what are his interests?
        Well, you, of course, are a crystal patriot and are already fighting for the Idea at the front?
    2. +7
      12 August 2022 10: 43
      Quote from U_GOREC
      But they are not going to fight or die for Russia either. As well as for Ukraine, however ...

      Ukrainians are now in such a position that they should at least fight for themselves. Well, do not go to the slaughter like cattle. And the Russian army only to help them.
      1. -1
        12 August 2022 11: 45
        Quote: freddyk
        Ukrainians are now in such a position that they should at least fight for themselves.

        For myself, is it like the Makhnovshchina or what?
        1. 0
          12 August 2022 23: 04
          Quote from U_GOREC
          For myself, is it like the Makhnovshchina or what?


          Anarchy is the mother of order laughing
    3. +2
      12 August 2022 12: 46
      This is really the position of the majority of the population of this miracle country, on the one hand, the residents don’t give a fuck that the Nazis are killing children in the DPR and LPR, fuck that they are selling their country and land for nothing, they haven’t been touched yet, but you look and the greenery will stand you can make money in Europe. On the other hand, not for Russia, otherwise you can get into a deal. As they say, eat the fish and do not spoil the pan.
    4. 0
      12 August 2022 12: 51
      Some kind of Overton window, judging by the description, goes
    5. -3
      13 August 2022 13: 39
      Here is a clear example of Ukrainian "khataskraynichestvo". If only "the ass is warm." Of course, we (Russia) will win, but we cannot change the Ukrainian mentality. If only in the next generations.
      1. -4
        13 August 2022 14: 19
        Quote: Technician_Harlan
        Here is a clear example of Ukrainian "khataskraynichestvo". If only "the ass is warm." Of course, we (Russia) will win, but we cannot change the Ukrainian mentality. If only in the next generations.

        Can you reveal in more detail who will win over whom (only without common words like Russia over Ukraine) and what will change as a result of this victory? For example, in Russia? Wars are not just waged, they always have specific goals!
        1. 0
          16 August 2022 09: 38
          Quote from U_GOREC
          What will change as a result of this victory? For example, in Russia?

          - there will be production of something that was not produced in the Russian Federation (so far, writing paper and diapers have definitely “appeared”, 100% localization laughing )
          - will finally begin to produce their automobiles (and they, in fact, never existed), aircraft and machine tools in commercial quantities.
          - the role of the States as a big world cudgel will greatly decrease. Is it good for the Russian Federation or bad - think for yourself ...
          - well, and NATO is moved. You are, in any case, high-impact weapons on his territory.

          Like this, to a minimum Yes
          1. -3
            16 August 2022 10: 06
            Quote: Repellent
            Like this, to a minimum

            Well, I strongly doubt something about production ... I don’t see much progress ... It seems that the owners (of the means of production))) are waiting until it all ends, we will make peace with the West and everything will be the same as before - oil \ gas \ timber \ metal in exchange for highly processed goods...
            But even if everything is as you write... Who will benefit from this? Who will be the main beneficiary? Here I am, as a hired worker, working for a salary and not owning factories \ newspapers \ steamboats ... What will I gain from the fact that the role of the States will sag and NATO will move? Will my salary go up? Will they lower taxes? Reduce the retirement age? Prices for food and consumer goods will fall)))? Could utility bills go down? Will there be a redistribution of profits from the owners of the means of production in favor of employees? Will added value be distributed differently?
            1. 0
              16 August 2022 10: 18
              Quote from U_GOREC
              What will I gain from the fact that the role of the States will sag and NATO will move? Will my salary go up? Will they lower taxes? Reduce the retirement age? Prices for food and consumer goods will fall)))? Could utility bills go down?

              It's clear. The position of the pig under the oak from Krylov.

              Convenient position, but I have nothing to discuss with you stop
              1. -4
                16 August 2022 10: 43
                Quote: Repellent
                It's clear. The position of the pig under the oak from Krylov.
                Convenient position, but I have nothing to discuss with you


                This is the position of the proletariat, which is aware of the difference between its own, class, interests and the interests of the ruling class of capitalists. And not collecting for their interests to shed blood - neither his own, nor someone else's ... under patriotic and nationalist slogans!
                Well, a pig under an oak tree is powerful! But only somehow your brains work on the back! It is I who work and create the product and added value. It's me oak! And pigs are those who parasitize on the weaning of added value, not thinking about the interests of those due to the exploitation of which they live and fatten Yes
                PS. And yes, there really is nothing to discuss with you at this stage of historical development. Whether the matter will be when the Global market redistribution of the Market between the leading competitors begins! And not this small-town SVO! Then we can discuss. Of course, if there is anyone to discuss ... wassat
                1. 0
                  16 August 2022 10: 48
                  Quote from U_GOREC
                  This is the position of the proletariat, which is aware of the difference between its own, class, interests and the interests of the ruling class of capitalists.

                  In matters of state security, at least, these positions must coincide.

                  To equate the proletarian with a pig from Krylov is not worth it.
                  1. -3
                    16 August 2022 11: 50
                    Quote: Repellent
                    In matters of state security, at least, these positions must coincide.

                    It is on the basis of which they required coincide? Based on the fact that you have been brainwashed with patriotic, nationalist, religious or any other slogans and you are ready to unite around "your" capitalists in their competitive struggle for assets with "foreign" capitalists and kill proletarians like you who have united around their capitalists? So, just, this is what Capital needs! You are very good stuff!
                    1. 0
                      16 August 2022 12: 16
                      Quote from U_GOREC
                      Quote: Repellent
                      In matters of state security, at least, these positions must coincide.

                      Why are they required to match?

                      Based on the fact, my friend, that you, who call yourself a "proletariat", survive only in a system created by the state. Outside this system, you can't survive.

                      It's simple.

                      Quote from U_GOREC
                      You are very good stuff!

                      I would say what kind of material you are ... yes, three days like from a ban laughing
                      1. -4
                        16 August 2022 12: 56
                        Quote: Repellent
                        I would say what kind of material you are ... yes, three days like from a ban

                        Weak! laughing I have several accounts in a life ban wassat
                2. +1
                  16 August 2022 10: 59
                  Quote from U_GOREC
                  It's me oak!

                  I did not immediately see this sensational recognition. I agree, it is you.

                  Well, the tree under the shadow of which you exist is still the State. It is it that provides you with light, heat, water and the delivery of rolls to the nearest store. It also provides you with protection.

                  That's something like winked
                  1. -3
                    16 August 2022 11: 57
                    Quote: Repellent
                    Well, the tree under the shadow of which you exist is still the State. It is it that provides you with light, heat, water and the delivery of rolls to the nearest store. It also provides you with protection.

                    That's something like

                    The state is a natural form of the normal existence of human society. Am I against the state? I'm just clarifying who owns this state? Who is the ruling class in it? Who is the hegemon? Who is the minority shareholder? Who owns and in whose interests does the state machine operate, whom does it oppress and whom does it enrich? Why am I not talking about personalities, but about classes and the system ...
                    1. 0
                      16 August 2022 12: 18
                      Quote from U_GOREC
                      Am I against the state? I'm just clarifying who owns this state?

                      And what is your purpose for clarifying this? Isn't it "shake"? wink

                      "I shook your house pipe" (c) laughing
                      1. -4
                        16 August 2022 12: 53
                        Quote: Repellent
                        And what is your purpose for clarifying this? Isn't it "shake"?

                        And I'm not satisfied with this alignment in the state. It's not mine!
                      2. 0
                        16 August 2022 14: 01
                        Quote from U_GOREC
                        Quote: Repellent
                        And what is your purpose for clarifying this? Isn't it "shake"?

                        And I'm not satisfied with this alignment in the state. It's not mine!

                        Funny. As for me, it is better to have at least some state than none. Let's die laughing

                        Again, the new civil Russia will not survive ... but simply the "partners" will not let it resist ...

                        So nubynafig your nonsense, let it go as it goes Yes
                      3. -4
                        16 August 2022 14: 07
                        Quote: Repellent
                        So nubynafig your nonsense, let it go as it goes

                        So that's where it goes! wink
                      4. 0
                        16 August 2022 14: 09
                        Quote from U_GOREC
                        Quote: Repellent
                        So nubynafig your nonsense, let it go as it goes

                        So that's where it goes! wink

                        Boredom, what was your last name? Are we changing? Nick on nickname for now? wink
  5. +2
    12 August 2022 10: 33
    It is possible that soon such an understanding of the real situation will come to residents of other regions - Odessa, Nikolaev, Dnepropetrovsk and other regions.

    That is why the RF Armed Forces retreated from Kyiv for the first time - there was no understanding because. Fooled by the West, the population has left the Russian army with only one way to bring back those who can still return - to show who the enemy really is and what his goal is.
    And the offensive and retreat and strikes only on the "military" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which are blocked by civilians and their conscience allows them to wear shoulder straps, came at a high price. I hope it's not wrong. The population had to rise for the first time and enter Kyiv with the Russian army - that's how everything should have been. But, in Ukraine, there were those who defiled the Russian soldier with his last words when he came to the city with a flag in order to protect its inhabitants from death with his armor.
    And now the situation will change. Now the 95th quarter and its "producers" need to be afraid not of the RF Armed Forces or the Russian Guard. It's too late to do that - the train has left.
  6. 0
    12 August 2022 10: 33
    Let them extinguish the Ukronazis from the rear.
    1. +3
      12 August 2022 10: 50
      Quote: Cooper
      Let them extinguish the Ukronazis from the rear.

      Something I don’t see the new Kovpak in the rear of the Ukrainian Reich. I have not heard of any partisan detachments.
      1. -1
        12 August 2022 11: 01
        They remembered about the partisans three days ago ... Only for some reason not near Kyiv, but in the Crimea and Belarus ...
      2. +10
        12 August 2022 11: 16
        For the sake of justice, at the expense of Kovpak's partisan detachments. The entire population knew that the Red Army would return! This was officially announced. There are currently no such statements. Simple examples: Kharkov in 14 rose even before Donetsk and drove the Nazis all over Kharkov, representatives went to Moscow - "we are ready", they were answered "you are Ukraine", the same Mariupol was given to Ukraine with words with "the words Mariupol - Ukraine "....and where are these people now, who were for Russia in these cities? Take an interest in what the Nazis did in the same Mariupol after that. The last example is Kyiv, Sumy, Gostomel ... They left there with words about a "goodwill gesture". And it ended with the fact that the streets of the same Bucha were declared to be the corpses of those who supported the Russian Armed Forces. And I note that no one speaks officially about Odessa, Dnepropetrovsk ... that these cities will be liberated. So where do the partisans come from? Learned from bitter experience. And all that is necessary is to officially declare - the South, East and North of Ukraine will be liberated, then the partisans will appear
        1. +2
          13 August 2022 12: 12
          All this is from porridge in the head of GDP. Today he has one thing, tomorrow another, the day after tomorrow - a third ...
          1. -1
            16 August 2022 09: 23
            maybe they are different people? a?
            1. -1
              16 August 2022 10: 44
              Quote from dimbasic
              maybe they are different people? a?

              Eh, my friend ... only thirty-five years - forty years ago - you should have been sitting for such a word for a long time and tightly. And now you are tolerated for some reason. Mold.
              1. -1
                16 August 2022 10: 56
                rudeness is a sign of low intelligence
                1. -1
                  16 August 2022 11: 07
                  Quote from dimbasic
                  rudeness sign

                  If you find rudeness - complain to the admin ... and you would definitely sit in prison, and for life.

                  Oh, what a time it was ... the USSR, however ... the KGB ... laughing
                  1. -1
                    16 August 2022 12: 01
                    in the USSR there was no life imprisonment. you would be better off holding embezzlers accountable with such zeal, otherwise a typical approval
                    1. -1
                      16 August 2022 12: 10
                      Quote from dimbasic
                      in the USSR there was no life imprisonment

                      Oh yes, exactly. But there was a tower Yes

                      And people like you were called dissidents and "treated" in psychiatric hospitals. Often for life.

                      Quote from dimbasic
                      you would be better with such zeal

                      Young man, I used to call a spade a spade. The fact that you are at least not honey is obvious. The fact that flies are flying at you is also obvious.

                      Which is exactly what they told you. And now come in, and don't meddle anymore ... otherwise I'll, um, enlist you laughing
                      1. -1
                        16 August 2022 12: 42
                        be treated sick, you got fascism
      3. +2
        12 August 2022 12: 02
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        Something I don’t see the new Kovpak in the rear of the Ukrainian Reich. I have not heard of any partisan detachments.

        Because ours did not create them. This is a myth about people's self-organization into a partisan movement! In 1941 there was no partisan movement. It appeared when they began to throw saboteurs, instructors, weapons and ammunition into the German rear. Wedges don't appear on their own...
        1. -1
          12 August 2022 12: 59
          So why aren't we giving up now? Weak? As the circus performer said: "Why did you come here?"
          1. 0
            12 August 2022 14: 13
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            So why aren't we giving up now? Weak?

            Not a question for me... Our authorities, in general, did not deal with Ukraine!
            1. +2
              12 August 2022 14: 30
              Quote from U_GOREC
              Our authorities, in general, did not deal with Ukraine!

              That's it. And now we have what we have. What our representatives were doing there is not at all clear.
              1. +2
                12 August 2022 14: 40
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                What our representatives were doing there is not at all clear.

                This is just, understandable - the money was earned and the interests of the business were lobbied!
                1. 0
                  12 August 2022 15: 43
                  Quote from U_GOREC
                  grandmas earned and business interests lobbied!

                  Hang them on the fore-yard! Or on a birch bough, at worst.
              2. +2
                13 August 2022 12: 16
                This is a question for Chernomyrdin and the other Zurabovs...
                1. -1
                  13 August 2022 12: 55
                  Quote: Sergey Tankist
                  Zurabov...

                  So, does Serdyukov work as a son-in-law for Zurabov?
                  1. 0
                    13 August 2022 14: 01
                    Serdyukov is Zubkov's son-in-law (unless he is a polygamist). At least that's what Wikipedia says ...
        2. -1
          16 August 2022 09: 25
          Yes, the capitalists are most afraid of the popular impulse. it is like death for them. they didn’t forget the autumn of 93, when their pathetic, corrupt little souls hung by a thread
          1. -1
            16 August 2022 09: 33
            Quote from dimbasic
            popular impulse ... autumn 93rd

            It was a strange impulse. No, the people participated in the extras, you can’t argue ... but the leadership somehow let us down a lot. Rutskoi-Khazbulatovs and other talkers from the parliament? No, thanks.

            That is why it was not successful. IMHO.
            1. -1
              16 August 2022 09: 54
              but is it because the officers fired from tanks for money on the supreme council?
              1. -1
                16 August 2022 10: 04
                Quote from dimbasic
                but is it because the officers fired from tanks for money on the supreme council?

                Yeah. And the wind blows because the trees sway.

                That EBN, that Rutskoi, that Khazik - were one field of berries. If you want - argue, but I went for now ...
                1. -1
                  16 August 2022 10: 28
                  yes, it's time for you to go.
          2. -3
            16 August 2022 09: 40
            In the autumn of 93, the capitalists divided the trough among themselves ... In any case, whoever wins, nothing would change for the people ...
            1. 0
              16 August 2022 09: 52
              who shared it? Khodorkovsky with Potanin? mokashov kapitalyuga? I remember Gaidar and Chubais were shaking in anticipation of the end, and the "honor and conscience" of Akhidzhakov's liberda called for killing the rebels. it was the only chance to return to the path of socialism, which was drowned in blood by former members of the CPSU
              1. -3
                16 August 2022 10: 18
                Quote from dimbasic
                who shared it? Khodorkovsky with Potanin? mokashov kapitalyuga? I remember Gaidar and Chubais were shaking in anticipation of the end, and the "honor and conscience" of Akhidzhakov's liberda called for killing the rebels. it was the only chance to return to the path of socialism, which was drowned in blood by former members of the CPSU

                And remind who in the White House had a communist program? Someone advocated the nationalization and abolition of private ownership of the means of production?
                1. 0
                  16 August 2022 10: 26
                  First of all, it was necessary to stop privatization and the uncontrolled rise in prices. it was the minimum program. Let me remind you that even the Bolsheviks, led by V.I. Lenins have always been pragmatists
  7. +2
    12 August 2022 10: 34
    It is possible that soon such an understanding of the real situation will come to residents of other regions - Odessa, Nikolaev, Dnepropetrovsk and other regions.
    Well, I would like to understand the real situation of the inhabitants of other regions of Ukraine..
  8. +9
    12 August 2022 10: 37
    I would like to believe, but, most likely, not everything is so rosy.
  9. +4
    12 August 2022 10: 40
    There are no less stoned dill than in Lviv, and maybe more, no need to build illusions
  10. +3
    12 August 2022 10: 41
    If a Ukrainian still managed to change his shoes and become a Russian as a result of the SO, then this is for a long time, about 100 years.
    1. +2
      12 August 2022 10: 55
      Quote: EXPrompt
      If a Ukrainian still managed to change his shoes and become a Russian as a result of the SO, then this is for a long time, about 100 years.

      So, for these 100 years, it is necessary to create a smart, hardworking, RUSSIAN person!
  11. +9
    12 August 2022 10: 48
    For me, it is generally a mystery why Ukrainians are dying now.
    They and their land were sold with giblets, and the debt was also hung up for five generations to come.
    Only a few can die for Bandera's ideas, the rest are just a herd.
    1. +5
      12 August 2022 10: 56
      It’s not a mystery to me at all, they have always been like that, and Bandera-heroy, these are not a few, but 70-80% of older Ukraine and 90-95% of the younger generation, but Muscovites are enemies for 90% of the entire population, 30 years of washing brains were not in vain ...
    2. 0
      12 August 2022 11: 50
      Quote: Arkady007
      the rest are just a herd.

      you are deceiving yourself. "Just a herd" is categorically incapable of fighting with such skill and dedication.
      And further .. Important! Now in the Armed Forces of Ukraine they practically don’t remember Bandera .. they don’t care about Bandera.
      1. 0
        12 August 2022 20: 47
        I. Goebels. "Give me the media and I will make a herd of pigs out of any nation."
    3. 0
      12 August 2022 12: 53
      Why, for the right to wash toilets in Europe and stand not just on the highway, but on the autobahn, and, of course, for lace panties. For this, they are ready to suffer the murder of their fellow citizens in Odessa, Donetsk. They haven't been killed yet.
  12. +2
    12 August 2022 10: 54
    And what prevents the creation of a partisan detachment ?! It was tougher under the Germans, but there were partisans ... Don't hit me - it's me, from the sofa ...
    1. -1
      12 August 2022 11: 01
      Quote: isv000
      And what prevents the creation of a partisan detachment?

      Probably lack of public support.
    2. 0
      12 August 2022 11: 05
      Under the Germans there were Germans. Now they will have to partisan against their own repulsed utyrks. And this is already a partisan detachment of two people, and he will be with at least one traitor.
  13. -2
    12 August 2022 11: 07
    Again the same naive belief in Russophile Ukrainians, again the same rake...
    1. 0
      12 August 2022 11: 15
      Most of the population of Ukraine is like a calf ... where they turn and go there.
      1. -1
        12 August 2022 11: 50
        Only after careful processing zomboyaschikom.
  14. -1
    12 August 2022 11: 46
    They lived well in the USSR
    [Center[/center] The RSFSR and the BSSR took the rap for everyone, but the fools were brainwashed and they decided to be themselves with a mustache, and that was not the case. They learned to steal, but they didn’t plan and think with their own heads, well, except perhaps the Russian Donbass. Here is the result. Now the brains have decided to turn on.
    1. -1
      12 August 2022 12: 16
      Quote: Ros 56
      They lived well in the USSR

      You are citing material from the Communist Party, based on the newspaper Soviet Russia for 1992. And they have data on the basis of which you are not interested? For you, Soviet Russia in 1992 The ultimate truth? This is the year after the collapse of the USSR. Who ruined it is not necessary to remind? And for what reason ... Well, and so here is the excuse - Enough of Russia to feed the republics! At what in Soviet Kazakhstan or Soviet Ukraine they cited opposite figures - how They fed the entire USSR! And by the way, sum up the total production in the republic and total consumption - it turns out interesting laughing
      1. -1
        12 August 2022 13: 47
        Who is the collapse? Yeltsin of the RSFSR, Kuchma of the Ukrainian SSR and Shushkevich of the BSSR ... so Ukraine was also falling apart and there were no less screams that they were feeding Russia there.
        1. -2
          12 August 2022 14: 02
          Quote: Alexey Sedykin
          Who is the collapse? Yeltsin of the RSFSR, Kuchma of the Ukrainian SSR and Shushkevich of the BSSR ... so Ukraine was also falling apart and there were no less screams that they were feeding Russia there.

          That is exactly what I wrote! And the nationality of those who collapsed, as well as republican affiliation, does not matter. They are united by one common quality - bourgeois wassat This is the corrupted Soviet party nomenklatura, which intended to become a class of capitalists, ruined, divided and privatized the once united country. And now their followers have grown up on the fragments of a single, in the past, country; enlarged and moved on to the next stage in the development of capitalism - imperialism, the competitive struggle for control over markets and resources. Well, the people, as usual, besotted with slogans and propaganda, will enthusiastically cut each other in the name of Glorious Ukraine, the Russian World, the Nation or the fight against Nazism ...
          1. -3
            12 August 2022 14: 10
            You do not touch the Russian world ... we persuaded Kyiv for 8 years. But no, it's not. They didn’t want it for good with the preservation of the country (there was no sovereignty anyway) it will be for bad.
          2. -1
            16 August 2022 10: 57
            It's time to move away from the realities of the early 20th century ... what was objectively in the beginning of the 20th century was no longer valid in the middle ... for example, the head of the "Red Chapel" was an aristocrat. And at the beginning of the 20th, too, everything was relative, for example, the Votkinsk and Izhevsk workers fought under the red banner for Kolchak ... by the way, Kappel also fought under the red banner.
            1. -3
              16 August 2022 12: 09
              Quote: Alexey Sedykin
              It's time to move away from the realities of the early 20th century ... what was objectively in the beginning of the 20th century was no longer valid in the middle ... for example, the head of the "Red Chapel" was an aristocrat. And at the beginning of the 20th, too, everything was relative, for example, the Votkinsk and Izhevsk workers fought under the red banner for Kolchak ... by the way, Kappel also fought under the red banner.

              Well, yes, we live in the enlightened 21st century! Now everything is different! Now the means of production do not belong to the capitalists and they do not exist due to the deprivation of added value from the people working on them! Now they make their capital out of thin air!
              1. -1
                16 August 2022 12: 36
                And who did the workers of the Izhevsk and Votkinsk factories stand for? Who do the ultra-left "antifa" and the "left front" stand for? And the capitalist "Gazprom" brings profit to the state, from which, among other things, the social program is paid. The capitalist Rotenberg built the Crimean bridge, but despite all the loud statements, there is not a single communist-socialist detachment fighting in the Donbass.
                1. -3
                  16 August 2022 12: 50
                  Quote: Alexey Sedykin
                  And who did the workers of the Izhevsk and Votkinsk factories stand for? Who do the ultra-left "antifa" and the "left front" stand for? And the capitalist "Gazprom" brings profit to the state, from which, among other things, the social program is paid. The capitalist Rotenberg built the Crimean bridge, but despite all the loud statements, there is not a single communist-socialist detachment fighting in the Donbass.

                  wassat That is, they write to you in plain text, but you do not understand? Why should the communists fight in the Donbass? Read the 26th volume of Lenin, everything is on the topic right from the preface! It's just a pity to cast pearls ...
                  1. -1
                    16 August 2022 13: 01
                    That is, everything that our leftists are now declaring is sheer demogogy? What kind of people they are, etc. etc. all bullshit? And they are quite satisfied with the frankly fascist anti-Russian state at hand? Then I'm out of the way with such leftists. But Lenin ... and what about Lenin, despite the fact that he stated in his writings, first of all, he was a pragmatist and acted not on the basis of dogmas, but on the basis of current reality. As a result, the USSR arose. Which can also be called an empire.
        2. 0
          16 August 2022 09: 36
          only not Kuchma, but Kravchuk, although Kuchma is no less to blame for what is happening now than this trinity of scoundrels
          1. -1
            16 August 2022 11: 00
            Quote from dimbasic
            only not Kuchma, but Kravchuk, although Kuchma is no less to blame for what is happening now than this trinity of scoundrels

            Thanks for the correction.
      2. -2
        12 August 2022 14: 51
        I traveled half of the Union, I saw everything with my own eyes and I don’t need to comb it.
        1. -5
          12 August 2022 16: 06
          Quote: Ros 56
          I traveled half of the Union, I saw everything with my own eyes and I don’t need to comb it.

          And what did you see with your own eyes? How did the Russians work hard, and not the Russians fattened at their expense?
          1. -2
            13 August 2022 06: 43
            If a person is dead, it's for a long time, if a person is stupid like you, it's forever. fool
        2. -2
          16 August 2022 11: 01
          Quote: Ros 56
          I traveled half of the Union, I saw everything with my own eyes and I don’t need to comb it.

          What exactly? The fact that Ukraine lived richer than Russia? So even Moldovans lived much richer.
          1. +1
            16 August 2022 13: 41
            Not only Ukraine, but especially the Tribalts and Georgia.
          2. -1
            16 August 2022 13: 50
            At one time, one family moved to our village (Ulyanovsk region). In the early 90s, they were forced to leave Moldova, first to Siberia, but the climate did not suit us there, from there to us. They said that they had not seen such poverty either in Siberia, or even more so in Moldova.
  15. -1
    12 August 2022 11: 55
    Quote: Mordvin 3
    I have not heard of any partisan detachments.

    three Ukrainians - a partisan detachment with a traitor
    1. -1
      16 August 2022 11: 07
      Yes, yes ... of course, partisan detachments are stupid, the geography of Ukraine is not very disposed to creating full-fledged detachments, but even about the underground is not heard.
  16. 0
    12 August 2022 11: 55
    I'm afraid Odessans, Nikolaev and Dnepropetrovsk themselves will not come to this
    1. -1
      16 August 2022 11: 10
      Why ... the fact that there are enough of those who are waiting for us with impatience is a fact. But there is no need to talk about any system. Naturally, according to information that is widely available. Someone is leaking data on the location of the Nazis in the rear. But this does not require organizations. For example, in France, the most successful resistance cells were from Russian emigrants. Small groups that are not related to each other. The disclosure of one had no effect on all the others.
  17. -1
    12 August 2022 13: 39
    "Residents of Zaporozhye", in order to resist, must take the citizenship of the Russian Federation and fight against the regime (and not the "Ukrainian authorities", which have long been non-Ukrainian).
    By the way, "residents of Russia" also need to connect. If the future is still possible, it will be in continuous wars.
  18. +3
    12 August 2022 13: 49
    Something not many young and healthy "liberated" men rushed to defend their home and their families! The queues are only for passports, payments, pensions and humanitarian aid.
    1. -1
      16 August 2022 11: 17
      Maybe there is someone who will take them right away ... until they check figs ten times. We protect ourselves first and foremost.
  19. +1
    15 August 2022 11: 51
    Quote: nikon7717
    So they will begin to hand over "glory to Ukraine" for scrap.


    They will start handing over loudly, but what will they do in the darkness of the night is a question!
  20. 0
    16 August 2022 09: 38
    Quote from U_GOREC
    Quote: Alexey Sedykin
    Who is the collapse? Yeltsin of the RSFSR, Kuchma of the Ukrainian SSR and Shushkevich of the BSSR ... so Ukraine was also falling apart and there were no less screams that they were feeding Russia there.

    That is exactly what I wrote! And the nationality of those who collapsed, as well as republican affiliation, does not matter. They are united by one common quality - bourgeois wassat This is the corrupted Soviet party nomenklatura, which intended to become a class of capitalists, ruined, divided and privatized the once united country. And now their followers have grown up on the fragments of a single, in the past, country; enlarged and moved on to the next stage in the development of capitalism - imperialism, the competitive struggle for control over markets and resources. Well, the people, as usual, besotted with slogans and propaganda, will enthusiastically cut each other in the name of Glorious Ukraine, the Russian World, the Nation or the fight against Nazism ...

    while everyone forgets that fascism is the highest stage of capitalism in its natural development. and until we return to the path of socialism, we will go towards fascism, no matter how much we want it, because this is the essence of capitalism
    1. -1
      16 August 2022 11: 24
      Or maybe stop thinking in clichés of the 20th century? Or remind about the Votkinsk and Izhevsk workers that fought against the RSFSR? Or maybe remind about the communist Pol Pot? But no, it would be better about the fact that the SPD (Social Democrats) surrendered Germany to the NSDAP (National Socialists), and if from the new time, you can mention "Antifa" (anti-fascists), which is a militant group in the service of liberal democrats. Or we have Udaltsov's "left front" performing the same functions as "antifa". Reality is much more complicated than one would like to seem, and not just black and white.