Australian writer: Nuclear war no longer scares people the way it used to

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Australian writer Jeff Sparrow argues in The Guardian that in the modern world, people have begun to relate differently to threats on a planetary scale, including the possibility of nuclear war. The new generation that grew up after the end of the Cold War no longer sees the nuclear weapons threats. For most of us, nuclear weapons are perceived only as an effective tool in the hands of the leaders of countries.

Written at the height of the Cold War in 1982, When the Wind Blows by Raymond Briggs is an acclaimed satirical comic strip that features elderly British couple Jim and Hilda Bloggs surviving a nuclear apocalypse in their own way. Orthodox Jim, accustomed to living by the rules, after the start of the disaster, is guided in everything by instructions from a government booklet. At the same time, the spouses constantly recall the previous World War II, which they experienced as children, and are absolutely sure that the new confrontation will end in peace. In the end, the couple, the only survivors in the area, die of radiation sickness, never understanding what really happened.



In the mid-80s, the comic book was made into a film of the same name, which gained great fame. At that time, Sparrow recalls, the theme of the nuclear threat dominated world culture and most people took it seriously.

What happened to that fear, the bone-chilling horror of nuclear war?

Sparrow asks modern people.

According to the writer, the reason lies in the end of the Cold War, which in the West was perceived as the victory of one superpower over another and the end of many years of confrontation, including the threat of a nuclear war. However, in reality, the world has become even more fragile, countries everywhere are improving and increasing their military potentials, confrontation is growing everywhere.

In Europe, nuclear-armed Russians are already fighting in Ukraine. In the Asia-Pacific region, tensions between the United States, equipped with approximately 5500 nuclear warheads, and China (more than 350 warheads) are rising almost daily

Reminds me of Sparrow.

The symbolic hands of the so-called doomsday clock in 2020 were moved forward by the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists by 20 seconds, now they show 100 seconds before “nuclear midnight”, remaining in this position today. This is as close to an expected nuclear disaster as ever. Last week, UN Secretary-General António Guterres said that "today humanity is separated only by one misunderstanding, one miscalculation from nuclear annihilation."

However, in the modern world, people do not react to this threat in the same way as they did in the 70s and 80s of the last century. The generation that first read When the Wind Blows had experienced a post-war economic boom and could therefore understand the threat of nuclear annihilation as a disgusting aberration that threatened the more or less sustainable course of human progress. Then the mass anti-war movement around the world literally forced the leaders of the largest countries to conclude disarmament agreements.

Today no one thinks so

Sparrow states.

The modern generation has ceased to perceive real threats on a planetary scale, they have become something ordinary and familiar to us. For example, a few days ago, scientists from Stockholm University reported that rainwater all over the planet had become so toxic that it was dangerous to drink it. This news caused no public outcry. The thing is that she was lost in the general background of many other deeply disturbing stories: global warming, droughts, world hunger, the growth of epidemiological diseases. Scientists explain this phenomenon by the fact that the threats have become "too numerous for comprehensive social adaptation."

If nuclear war no longer gives us nightmares, perhaps it's because we're getting used to the unthinkable. We do not attribute the catastrophe solely to the pressing of the atomic button. Instead, we see her slowly creeping up wherever we look.

explains the Australian writer.

In such a situation of general apathy towards global threats, politicians like Nancy Pelosi can quite easily provoke one of the nuclear powers without fear of public protests.

This is a good time to reread When the Wind Blows - not to scare yourself, but to inspire you to fight.

Sparrow calls.
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  1. +2
    12 August 2022 09: 45
    He hopes to sit out on the mainland .... The states will not let him, and they will place something there that will be a good target ... Calm down the hegemon and everyone will be happy ...
  2. 0
    12 August 2022 09: 46
    Nuclear war no longer scares people the way it used to
    There are more various threats, and nuclear war is one of them. In the general system of all threats to the world, the nuclear threat is no longer noticed.
    1. +1
      12 August 2022 12: 49
      Do you understand what you wrote? Or are you also a victim of the Bologna process?
  3. +9
    12 August 2022 09: 48
    I'm afraid he's right. Now, it seems, the plan of the Ukrainians is as follows: to cause critical damage to the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, causing radioactive contamination of the area and, thereby, stopping the Russian military operation, accusing Russia of blowing up the plant. And it seems that the Americans and the British gave him permission, and maybe even instructions. Since the fate of the Poles, Lithuanians, Romanians, Czechs, even the Germans of the "first-class country" (USA and Britain) is not particularly worried. Not to mention Ukrainians, Belarusians and Russians. That is why we see such a sluggish and inadequate world reaction to the shelling of nuclear power plants. Even the closest Western neighbors of Ukrainians are afraid to open their mouths.
    1. +1
      12 August 2022 10: 24
      Quote: vet
      thereby achieving a halt to the Russian military operation

      This will not stop the NWO, it will simply make a number of territories (relatively small) temporarily inaccessible for living and doing business. Read the literature on Totsk exercises using nuclear weapons and nuclear weapons tests - there is nothing particularly deadly at least a kilometer from the epicenter (main fallout)
      1. +1
        12 August 2022 12: 30
        This will not stop the NWO, it will simply make a number of territories temporarily inaccessible for living and doing business

        Have you thought about the reaction of society? First of all, relatives of soldiers and officers who will fight in the contaminated area? And the soldiers themselves? Will there be many who want to swallow radioactive dust?
        1. 0
          12 August 2022 13: 40
          And what was the reaction of society when the military and reservists were sent to eliminate the Chernobol accident?
        2. -1
          12 August 2022 14: 51
          Quote: vet
          Will there be many who want to swallow radioactive dust?

          They have already answered you here, in principle, but I’ll note that a bullet kills right today, and radiation in 20 years. The risk of being killed during an NWO by an ordinary bullet is several orders of magnitude higher than the risk of being killed during an NWO by radiation. And - nothing, risk.
    2. +2
      12 August 2022 10: 28
      Absolutely right. I completely agree. And the only way is to prevent this rapid advance in the south. Zaporozhye, Krivoy Rog. Nikolaev. With the simultaneous forcing of the Kakhovka reservoir in the directions of Marganets, Nikopol. But this is unfortunately unrealistic.
  4. +1
    12 August 2022 09: 52
    It seems to me that this is not because people get used to the narrative of the threat of nuclear war - but because they DO NOT BELIEVE in the reality and possibility of nuclear war.
    1. +8
      12 August 2022 09: 59
      there are rather several factors, firstly, the generation that REALLY knew what a big war was, and secondly, everyone went into virtuality and perceive the war as a picture on the monitor
      1. +3
        12 August 2022 10: 39
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        there are rather several factors, firstly, the generation that REALLY knew what a big war was, and secondly, everyone went into virtuality and perceive the war as a picture on the monitor

        Right! Look around: everything is going on as usual, society continues to consume, young people no longer know who Brezhnev is and want to go to Germany or the States, because it is warm and satisfying there and everything is falling from the sky. And, at this very time, somewhere in the Donbass, wheezing and choking on blood, a guy with clear eyes fell on the enemy in the last fight ....................... .........................
  5. +2
    12 August 2022 09: 53
    If nuclear war no longer gives us nightmares, perhaps it's because we're getting used to the unthinkable.
    . To say that a person gets used to everything .... probably not.
    Public opinion, the general mood in society, is not formed by itself ... most likely it was done artificially, the way someone needs it.
    Seek someone profitable!
  6. +2
    12 August 2022 09: 53
    just idiots don't understand what it is...they played their computer games on the couch..it's not scary on the couch.
    1. +5
      12 August 2022 09: 59
      The commander-in-chief has already prepared us ..... we will immediately go to heaven, and they will just die ... We live with this .... and we believe that everything will be fine, in any scenario)))))).
      1. +2
        12 August 2022 10: 30
        Quote from uprun
        The commander-in-chief has already prepared us ..... we will immediately go to heaven, and they will just die ... We live with this .... and we believe that everything will be fine, in any scenario)))))).

        Well, then religion teaches that death is a transition to another world, and nothing else, the body is decay, the soul is eternal. And we are afraid of death, I think, only from the realization that this is a one-way ticket, there will be no more relatives, no beloved cat, no morning sandwich ... Moreover, we are afraid of death throes ...
  7. HAM
    +6
    12 August 2022 09: 56
    The new generation does not know any difficulties, they have grief when the next game crashes from a computer or phone. ..concerned precisely with this, and not with the possibility of a nuclear catastrophe ..
    1. +1
      12 August 2022 10: 31
      Quote: HAM
      rage with fat, inventing a variety of sexes

      this is a way to reduce the birth rate and increase the manageability of society through its atomization (divide and conquer), nothing more. in general, sooner or later there will not be enough resources for everyone - there are already 8 billion people on the planet, therefore, in order to preserve the ecosystem, either nature itself will adjust this imbalance (viruses, hunger), or someone must somehow deal with the issue of overpopulation of the planet (not calling for anything, just a fact).
  8. GNM
    +3
    12 August 2022 09: 58
    The ancient Indian epic "Mahabharata" and numerous adherents of alternative history (I was impressed by the late Andrei Sklyarov) claim that there were nuclear wars before. So, you should not rely on the prudence of real puppeteers. Apparently, humanity, like any artificially created mechanism, needs a periodic upgrade - a reboot.
    May God give me the strength to change what I can change.
    May God give me the strength to endure what I cannot change.
    Give me God the mind to distinguish one from the other. (FROM)
    1. -1
      12 August 2022 10: 07
      Quote: GNM
      May God give me the strength to change what I can change.
      God give me strength take something that I can't change.
      Give me God the mind to distinguish one from the other. (FROM)

      N.A.? ;)
      1. GNM
        +1
        12 August 2022 10: 29
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Quote: GNM
        May God give me the strength to change what I can change.
        God give me strength take something that I can't change.
        Give me God the mind to distinguish one from the other. (FROM)

        N.A.? ;)

        I have written "survive" - ​​I did not understand the question.
        1. -1
          12 August 2022 10: 33
          Everything is ok, if you do not understand, then the question was not in the topic Yes
    2. +1
      12 August 2022 12: 28
      Quote: GNM
      The ancient Indian epic "Mahabharata" and numerous adherents of alternative history (I was impressed by the late Andrei Sklyarov) claim that there were nuclear wars before.

      The opinion of charlatans and ignoramuses can be ignored.
      1. GNM
        +1
        12 August 2022 12: 37
        Quote: Hyperion
        Quote: GNM
        The ancient Indian epic "Mahabharata" and numerous adherents of alternative history (I was impressed by the late Andrei Sklyarov) claim that there were nuclear wars before.

        The opinion of charlatans and ignoramuses can be ignored.

        1. 0
          12 August 2022 12: 42
          The spread of stupidity and anti-scientific stupidity is still needed. There are too many alternatively gifted adherents of an alternative reality. And they do not hesitate to spread their ignorance and fabulous worldview.
          I doubt that it will come, but an attempt is not torture:
          1. GNM
            +1
            12 August 2022 12: 51
            ... The spread of stupidity and anti-scientific stupidity is still needed ...

            Well, don't spread it!
            Ancient epics existed and will exist in addition to obscurantists, Sklyarov made dozens of films that make people think, and does not need to be judged by narrow-minded "experts".
            1. 0
              12 August 2022 13: 09
              Quote: GNM
              Sklyarov made dozens of films that make people think

              Do not think, but believe in all sorts of nonsense.

              These are close-minded followers of Sklyarov and other Muldashevs. And it would be fine if they sat in their narrow circle and retold fairy tales to each other. So no - they climb with their nonsense wherever they get.
              1. GNM
                +1
                12 August 2022 13: 12
                To study and think is the scientific approach. Believing in all sorts of nonsense and denying the facts is obscurantism
                1. -1
                  12 August 2022 13: 23
                  Quote: GNM
                  Believing in all sorts of nonsense and denying the facts is obscurantism

                  Obscurantism - to believe that aliens capable of interstellar flights built buildings from multi-ton limestone blocks. Although even our civilization has long been using other building materials.
                  Well, fairy tales with all these epics are still a fantasy. There, at best, 1% of real events.
                  1. GNM
                    0
                    12 August 2022 14: 00
                    I am not interested in Muldashev unknown to me, I am not interested in what a bearded tiktoker in a T-shirt with skulls babbles, catching hype on Sklyarov’s works, and even more so the conclusions that were born in a head clogged with such rubbish. Bye!
                    1. -2
                      12 August 2022 14: 29
                      It is strange that Muldashev is not known to you. One of the sacred cows of obscurantists-alternatives.
                      "Bearded TikToker" is a science journalist, founder and editor of the ANTROPOGENEZ.RU portal, producer of the "Scientists Against Myths" forum, member of the Russian Academy of Sciences Commission to Combat Pseudoscience.
                      And about the garbage in my head - hearing this from alternatives is funny and sad. Keep believing in fairy tales. Just shine less with your "facts". There are already problems with education, and then there are such nonsense ...
                      1. GNM
                        +1
                        12 August 2022 14: 43
                        If you have problems with education, do not watch any Mudashev and unkempt tiktokers, study world classics and scientifically oriented people.
                        For your information, I am not an alternative person, but a person who has worked in the scientific and technical field for half a lifetime, which does not prevent me from studying philosophy and having a fairly broad critical outlook.
                        Do not be ill!
                      2. -2
                        12 August 2022 15: 20
                        What does philosophy and classics have to do with it? How is this not an alternative if you refer to Sklyarov?
                        You are guided by Indian fairy tales and charlatans. Critical outlook is what kind of nonsense? The horizon is already a store of knowledge. It cannot be configured.
                      3. GNM
                        +1
                        12 August 2022 18: 03
                        Quote: Hyperion
                        What does philosophy and classics have to do with it? How is this not an alternative if you refer to Sklyarov?
                        You are guided by Indian fairy tales and charlatans. Critical outlook is what kind of nonsense? The horizon is already a store of knowledge. It cannot be configured.

                        Hard case...
                        "Mahabharata" is considered a universally recognized classical ancient epic and is known to billions of people.
                        Andrey Sklyarov has made dozens of expeditions in about 30 years, made dozens of research films and conducted dozens of research seminars. all this is on the Internet and on his website, if not closed. Millions of people know him.
                        How many dozens of people know your Mudashev and the bearded tiktoker?
                        A critical outlook means knowledge of classical philosophy (which includes knowledge of the Mahabharata) and an unbiased acquaintance with serious works in the field, including alternative sources. (Nosov and Fomenko and your Mudashov are not to be dragged here)
                        Ashamed to boast of his illiteracy, young man!
                      4. -2
                        12 August 2022 19: 47
                        Quote: GNM
                        "Mahabharata" is considered a universally recognized classical ancient epic and is known to billions of people.

                        So what? This does not mean that it describes a nuclear war. This is especially gifted want to think so. Science does not support this.
                        Quote: GNM
                        Millions of people know him.

                        As a charlatan and a forger.
                        Quote: GNM
                        How many dozens of people know your Mudashev and the bearded tiktoker?

                        Muldashev is yours, like Sklyarov and Fomenko. One field of berries. And about the "tiktoker" I already wrote to you, who he is. There is an article about him on the same Wikipedia, but about Sklyarov, this "great forwarder", they did not even write an article on such a pop site. Here is such a "fame" and "world recognition" that he fully deserves.
                        Quote: GNM
                        Critical outlook means knowledge of classical philosophy

                        Perspective can be obtained with a critical mindset, but not attuned in any way. You don't even understand these concepts. So I'm not the illiterate here.
  9. 0
    12 August 2022 10: 03
    In the mid-80s, the comic book was made into a film of the same name, which gained great fame.

    I found only a British animated film made in 1988 based on this story.
    1. GNM
      +1
      12 August 2022 10: 33
      Quote: Flood
      In the mid-80s, the comic book was made into a film of the same name, which gained great fame.

      I found only a British animated film made in 1988 based on this story.

      There are a bunch of western films on this topic, the most hyped "On the Last Shore" of the 50-60s and its modern remake.
  10. +4
    12 August 2022 10: 03
    Among other things, it is necessary to restore teaching in schools what to do in case of "chemical contamination", "radiation", "bacteriological". How is it determined, by what devices. Since there are enough emergencies with such sources in civilian life. People, due to a lack of understanding of the situation, ruin their health out of the blue. With an understanding of what this or that BATTLE use of weapons threatens, there will be a different attitude, and the reaction will be appropriate. Now we've seen enough of comics and "Hollywoods": radiation is cool, superpowers are waking up! fool this is just the finish, in my personal deep conviction, such propaganda is a crime against humanity! Since it causes a "blurring" of the perception of danger in the environment and a person understands that he is in trouble when it is often too late to react, critical damage to health has been received.
    1. +1
      12 August 2022 11: 19
      Yes, we are afraid to clearly say what to do in the event of a threat of a raid and nuclear weapons. For example, I did not really find information on bomb shelters. They laughed at me here at VO, they say you will hear the city of Kaluga. As you can hear through the plastic windows, there are no broadcasters in the area, only on the main street. Until the moment of the attack, there is a maximum of 15 minutes. Where to run, what to take is not clear. But they write good reports. That when the hour comes they will like wow, they will raise everything (no).
  11. +4
    12 August 2022 10: 03
    Discussed in the family this topic. They decided that it was better to die immediately than to suffer, starve, get sick, fight with all kinds of marauders, etc.
    The children, aged 15 and 16, agreed. And calmly went to school, we went to work.
    No terror, no fear...
    1. +1
      12 August 2022 10: 24
      Quote: sagitovich
      Discussed in the family this topic. They decided that it was better to die immediately than to suffer, starve, get sick, fight with all kinds of marauders, etc.
      The children, aged 15 and 16, agreed. And calmly went to school, we went to work.
      No terror, no fear...

      Someone wrote at VO that every 80-100 years the consciousness of people completely forgets all the sorrows, hardships and hardships of previous military generations. Exposed nerves are covered with cowhide and the toast “If only there was no war!” sounds no longer at the tables ... requestIn Russia they still say: until the thunder breaks out, the peasant will not cross himself ...
    2. +2
      12 August 2022 10: 38
      Quote: sagitovich
      it is better to die immediately than to suffer

      it's as lucky, but you can increase the chances of death - to move from a capital brick house in a residential area closer to a military plant to non-capital housing wassat don't give up laughing
    3. +2
      12 August 2022 11: 23
      For a long time, some bright head (scientist) also figured out and it turned out that it’s better to immediately discard the sandals than to sit in a bunker or shelter and prolong the agony.
      And this is not cowardice and weakness, just if there are no real chances, then there is no point.
  12. Two
    +3
    12 August 2022 10: 10
    hi With the development of digitalization, fear is lost! Liquefaction of the essence of education contributes to the debilitation of society. Why should I study physics and understand the physical principles of the development of technology if, for example, I am going to become a butterfly specialist (entomologist)? The belief in permissiveness and accessibility is strengthened, but without assessing the results of the application. Hence the decrease in the assessment of ongoing events. Why evaluate real threats if you can immerse yourself in the digital world? fellow
    1. +3
      12 August 2022 10: 41
      Quote: Dos
      Why evaluate real threats when you can immerse yourself in the digital world?

      From an article by Moskovsky Komsomolets dated March 02.03.2021, XNUMX:
      Almost 70% of schoolchildren called life safety the most useless subject in school. Such data was shown by a survey conducted by the Institute of Progressive Education among students in grades 8-11. Technology, astronomy, ...

      In the 70s they wanted to become astronauts, in the 90s they wanted to become bandits, now they wanted to become video bloggers ...
      1. 0
        12 August 2022 11: 22
        I agree about the technology - it is useless without a base and tools. There were shootings at the obzh, they told how to make fires, cook fly agarics, etc. But we have 1 in the whole of Kaluga was a guard lieutenant colonel in teachers.
  13. +2
    12 August 2022 10: 18
    Slowly but surely, people's minds are being prepared for the approval of a vigorous strike. Looks like the construction of the shelter for the "golden yard" is coming to an end...
    1. +2
      12 August 2022 10: 31
      The Golden Yard did not teach physics well at school, and they did not have NVP at all.
    2. GNM
      +3
      12 August 2022 10: 37
      Quote: isv000
      Slowly but surely, people's minds are being prepared for the approval of a vigorous strike. Looks like the construction of the shelter for the "golden yard" is coming to an end...

    3. -1
      12 August 2022 10: 55
      Quote: isv000
      Looks like the construction of the shelter for the "golden yard" is coming to an end...

      the problem is that it won't help, it will only delay
  14. +9
    12 August 2022 10: 25
    This is all due to the cancellation of "flash on the right" .. my platoon commander's favorite command.
    1. +1
      12 August 2022 10: 45
      Quote: withoutreverse
      This is all due to the cancellation of "flash on the right" .. my platoon commander's favorite command.

      Until now, at these words, some kind of nerve twitches ...
  15. +1
    12 August 2022 10: 28
    The accuracy of ammunition has increased ... and the use has become pinpoint. For example, if the target is a bunker or underground utilities, why not use penetrating ammunition? Low power in kTn?
    One bomb or BR, exactly plus or minus 5m ..... and the issue is resolved.
  16. -1
    12 August 2022 10: 32
    The modern generation has ceased to perceive real threats on a planetary scale, they have become something ordinary and familiar to us.

    It is difficult for an Australian writer living on the outskirts of the world in a state that does not have land neighbors to understand what the process of adaptation is. For him, toxic rain is already the end of the world.
    I answered this question well in my futuristic forecast for 2020 ("The Beginning of the End"). (I sent it to VO for storage in the archive for historians.) Quote from there:
    When you live for a long time on the edge of an abyss, you gradually begin to get used to it, and you stop being afraid of it. But trouble, sooner or later, comes, and at the most unexpected moment.
  17. 0
    12 August 2022 10: 38
    "Reread When the Wind Blows" and revisit "A Day After" and "On the Beach".
  18. 0
    12 August 2022 10: 45
    What can frighten Australians who do not know what war is in principle?
  19. 0
    12 August 2022 11: 19
    Nuclear war no longer scares people the way it used to
    - and the usual has not been scary for a long time.
    Accustomed for decades to live under a peaceful sky (local does not count).
  20. 0
    12 August 2022 12: 42
    Very well. Why not demonstrate a nuclear explosion in nature? The situation is such that if tests are not carried out on Novaya Zemlya, then they will have to be carried out in Europe and in the USA. Or are we satisfied with "a world without Russia"?
  21. 0
    12 August 2022 13: 28
    Back in the era of the Cold War, scientists calculated and proved that it was enough for the United States or the USSR not even to launch missiles with nuclear warheads, but simply to blow up the nuclear arsenal on their territory, so that the end of the world would come, in which nothing living would survive at all, including the simplest unicellular . There is no escape from radiation pollution, and even more so from nuclear winter.
  22. +1
    12 August 2022 14: 07
    Any deterrence will weaken sooner or later - just like nuclear deterrence is going through a period when everyone is already itching to try the "walls" for strength - and SUDDENLY everything is not so bad, but SUDDENLY there is some kind of loophole. This property of a person is to look for loopholes if you really want something. In this case, I really want to kill my own kind in batches. Well, the great powers boiled over.
    And here everything is in one heap - and the degradation "into the talking shop" of the UN, and in fact the new global protectionism that we are seeing, and much more ...
  23. 0
    12 August 2022 21: 15
    the author is wrong! scares people and much more
    only blind politicians where they can bring?
  24. 0
    13 August 2022 18: 20
    Don't worry, Europe will soon see strikes with tactical nuclear weapons, or do you think Russia will simply throw hats at NATO.