American journalist: There are deliveries of Western weapons to Ukraine, and in Bakhmut the Armed Forces of Ukraine are firing from Soviet artillery

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Journalists from some major Western media are working on the Ukrainian side in the cities of Donbass, for which fierce battles have been going on in the past few days. Among others - Andrew Kramer, representing the American newspaper The New York Times. A journalist from the United States writes that he was struck by the complete absence of Western heavy equipment on Ukrainian positions in Bakhmut (Artyomovsk).

Kramer:



There are deliveries of Western weapons, but here (in Artyomovsk - approx. "VO") Ukrainian soldiers fire from Soviet artillery. They use D-20 howitzers, talking about their high reliability.

The American reporter writes that the Ukrainian troops have to save ammunition, as the logistics of their supply to the front line is disrupted, and the available stocks can quickly run out, based on the intensity of the fighting.

According to Kramer, Ukrainian artillery crews carry out no more than 20 shots from each during the day.

Kramer:

I arrived at the positions of the 58th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The staff is housed in one of the municipal buildings. As soon as we were on the spot, the shelling began. Ukrainian soldiers rushed to the shelter, many began to hide in basements.

At the same time, the American reporter claims that as a result of the shelling, “none of the Ukrainian soldiers died,” but 7 civilians allegedly died.

At the same time, the American reporter does not say anything about how and where the Ukrainian troops strike, as well as about what kind of municipal building the Armed Forces of Ukraine use (school, cultural center, kindergarten?) because this is clearly not included in his “editorial exercise". As a matter of fact, lately, the editorial assignments of the Western media are less and less likely to include what fits in with the truth about the events in the Donbass.
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  1. +9
    12 August 2022 09: 01
    D-20 howitzers, speaking of their high reliability.

    In terms of reliability, it is. Yes
  2. +6
    12 August 2022 09: 02
    I arrived at the positions of the 58th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The personnel is stationed in one of municipal buildings.
    Where is it? At school or kindergarten?
    1. Two
      +5
      12 August 2022 09: 09
      hi He does not know about that. He is an AMERICAN journalist,,, What is said in the editorial assignment, then he will voice it.
    2. +1
      12 August 2022 09: 59
      Positions in a residential area, with cover behind the population, since they run to hide in basements, and not in trenches and dugouts
    3. +2
      12 August 2022 11: 38
      Quote: svp67
      At school or kindergarten?

      Is there a difference for skakuas? negative
      Terrorists ukrorozliv - cattle. Bakhmut - Artyomovsk. soldier
      1. 0
        12 August 2022 13: 55
        And why didn’t you like the name Bakhmut?
        1. 0
          12 August 2022 14: 00
          Quote: Alexey Sedykin
          why didn’t you like the name Bakhmut?

          And what pleased you? wink
          1. 0
            12 August 2022 14: 03
            Old original Russian name.
            1. 0
              12 August 2022 14: 08
              And now let's remember that it's not you or I who live there. Let the residents themselves determine what the settlement will be called.
              1. -3
                12 August 2022 15: 02
                Quote: bouncyhunter
                And now let's remember that it's not you or I who live there. Let the residents themselves determine what the settlement will be called.

                How quickly they backtracked ...
                1. 0
                  12 August 2022 15: 47
                  Much honor to you to back down. Yes
                  1. -2
                    12 August 2022 18: 57
                    Crown does not press?
                    1. 0
                      12 August 2022 20: 26
                      No . Because she doesn't exist. But you boots in the shoulders are not too tight? wink
                      1. -1
                        12 August 2022 22: 17
                        But it seems to me that there is ... look, maybe there is.
  3. -1
    12 August 2022 09: 04
    All the supplied equipment is concentrated somewhere for the offensive, while in the Donbas they stubbornly resist, somewhere a shock fist is being formed.
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    2. +2
      12 August 2022 09: 12
      Quote: navigator777
      while in the Donbas they stubbornly resist, somewhere a shock fist is being formed.

      Most likely under Izyum
      Want to cut communications
    3. +5
      12 August 2022 09: 13
      I wrote about the same. Ukroresursy sometimes talked about it. Plus, 10 thousand students study in Britain, they must be provided with everything necessary after returning from school. They plan not to spray them in parts, but to use them as part of new compounds.
    4. 0
      12 August 2022 09: 14
      Oil, weapons, drugs are the most profitable businesses. And when there is scope and no control, then with the help of mutual responsibility, kickbacks and black schemes, you can cut so much money that your mother does not grieve. Many Western politicians are in the share and are now earning fortunes there. And they will say that they allegedly delivered equipment to Ukraine, but it was destroyed, although it was never there in reality, but on paper everything is clear and ends in the water. You think why all Western politicians Do they go to Kyiv? They want their share from the sale of their countries' arsenals to the black market for weapons. Ukraine is a good excuse for Western politicians to cut money for themselves and their children through plundering the arsenals of their armies.
      . Many Western countries have decided to trade on the black arms market: the USA, Germany, Poland and others. Kyiv did not stand aside either. Only some receive money according to a complex scheme, and he - according to a simple one. There are very simple motives behind the supply of weapons - money. All parties earn. Kyiv - according to an easy scheme - begs for military equipment from the West, and then sells half of it to Africa. USA - on a more complex one.


      . The public of Nezalezhnaya distribute a document signed by Minister of Defense Reznikov, which says: the belligerent Kyiv is ready to sell "surplus" weapons. According to journalists, African countries. To do this, you don’t even need to import weapons to Ukraine. “When the cargo arrives in Poland, you can perform any actions with this cargo there. For example, take and resell these weapons to Africa, ”confirmed military observer Viktor Litovkin. Everything is done by the TechImpex company. The scheme was worked out even before the hostilities in Ukraine. Five years ago, international organizations exposed the principle of its work. Weapons are bought in Eastern Europe and resold to Africa and Asia. Including - to South Sudan, which is under a UN arms embargo. The Ukrainian arsenal also emerged from the Tamil tigers - rebels in Sri Lanka.

      https://m.5-tv.ru/news/384328/ekonomika-smerti-razoblaceny-shemy-zapada-pozarabotku-nanakacke-ukrainy-oruziem/
    5. +1
      12 August 2022 09: 19
      Quote: navigator777
      All the supplied equipment is concentrated somewhere for the offensive, while in the Donbas they stubbornly resist, somewhere a shock fist is being formed.


      On the Kharkov direction.
    6. -1
      12 August 2022 10: 03
      50 percent for sale immediately from Poland. Destroy a part along the way, keep the remnants to plug holes or show the appearance of an offensive to partners
  4. +5
    12 August 2022 09: 04
    as a result of the shelling, “none of the Ukrainian soldiers died,” but 7 civilians allegedly died.

    It means that these "warriors of light" were peaceful and expelled from shelters, because
    Ukrainian soldiers rushed for cover, many began to hide in basements
  5. Two
    +2
    12 August 2022 09: 04
    hi Stitched in the desired version, a journalist arrived. Don't expect objectivity... sad
  6. -2
    12 August 2022 09: 08
    On the front end there is a mobilized "meat", among which some have not even served in the army before ...., and immediately give them 777 or Caesar ...., the journalist seems to be walking on the ground, but you can see on a parallel one ...
  7. +1
    12 August 2022 09: 11
    And Ukrainian resources also say that there is an accumulation of foreign aid and the creation and training of reserve units for organizing a counteroffensive on some of the sectors of the front. Therefore, not all aid goes to the front.
    1. +3
      12 August 2022 09: 16
      A campaign on the left bank of the new Mannerheim line is being stirred up with the appropriate cover ...
  8. -10
    12 August 2022 09: 32
    When will they destroy all of them, when will our military learn to fight ??? I am ashamed of our army, which is commanded by a builder!
    1. +6
      12 August 2022 09: 44
      So what was the issue? Drive up and help and teach to fight and there will be no need to be ashamed.
  9. +6
    12 August 2022 09: 45
    It is very likely that there is a concentration of Western weapons and units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in some area. I really hope the intelligence of the Russian Ministry of Defense understands this and owns the information. It seems that Kyiv understands not to hold the Donbass, but to give the AFU the opportunity to hold out against our forces for as long as possible in order to accumulate forces and weapons somewhere for a counterattack.
    1. -1
      12 August 2022 14: 05
      Yes, they probably saved Kyiv to defend.
  10. +1
    12 August 2022 09: 46
    Ensign of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Shmatko was very surprised when they were supplied with the javelins sold to him laughing
  11. 0
    12 August 2022 09: 57
    Does it finally arrive? Or was the order lowered from above - to start slowly draining the Sumerians?
  12. 0
    12 August 2022 10: 20
    Bakhmut will soon pass under Russian control,
    - Western curators do not want to give gifts with their weapons.
  13. +3
    12 August 2022 11: 17
    So the D-20 is also used in the People's Militia - they switched to them from the D-30.
    ... programmers involved in the release of software for artillerymen, added to the "Artillery Notebook" on the 152-mm howitzer D-20, to which the artillery battalions of the NM of the LPR and DPR had just switched from 122-mm D-30 guns, which was not previously listed in the program menu for this weapon is a cluster shell.

    Shells of this type just at that moment began to arrive at the warehouses of the People's Militia, and the gunners asked me to agree with the programmers on an urgent update. Here are scans of paper tables of firing for this projectile, Murz, we need the artbook on the D-20 to be able to do it.

    I turned to the OPSB, the OPSB paid for an urgent order for programmers, and the programmers promptly rolled out an urgent update. And all the advanced artels of the Republics, who, of course, use art notebooks and read this group, downloaded a new thing for themselves. And they got the opportunity to cut out the enemy’s unentrenched manpower and light equipment even more efficiently.

    Well, the OPSB immediately muddied the distribution of protected android devices to artillerymen working from the D-20 and Msta guns (there is a separate notebook on Msta, by the way).
    © Murz

    Judging by the following posts about software, Genocides are creeping somewhere in those parts.
  14. 0
    12 August 2022 11: 58
    Here, either they really are preparing an offensive, or they are strengthening the defense at distant borders using Western weapons
  15. 0
    13 August 2022 07: 36
    "seven civilians" - did he count the vushnikov for civilians?