Captured Ukrainian Colonel: When handing over Javelin ATGMs to the 36th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, no one explained how to use them

Published statements of a captured Ukrainian officer about the West-supplied weapons Ukraine. We are talking about the words of Colonel Vladimir Baranyuk, who at one time was the commander of the 36th Marine Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, defeated in Mariupol. Baranyuk himself, we recall, was taken prisoner when several units of the brigade tried to break out of the encirclement in Mariupol.

Colonel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Baranyuk, quoted by RT, called the American Javelin anti-tank systems "absolutely useless weapons." According to him, the brigade "could not make a single launch, because something constantly interfered."

The captive Ukrainian officer stated that during the transfer of these anti-tank systems, no one explained how to use them. Baranyuk says that the Ukrainian military from the 36th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine themselves tried to figure out the principles of using Javelins, including by watching videos on YouTube.

Baranyuk:

The problem is that no one (in the 36th brigade) knows English.

Thus, judging by the words of the captured Ukrainian colonel, the point is not so much in the Javelins themselves, but in the fact that the vast majority of the Ukrainian military are not familiar with the technology of their use. On this basis, we can conclude that the situation in the Armed Forces of Ukraine is similar with heavy military equipment supplied from abroad. If it is difficult to deal with the Javelin, then how, then, did the Ukrainian army personnel deal with such weapons as HIMARS in a short time? There is a high probability that the US military is included in the calculations of these complexes, which has already been suggested earlier.

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[IVZ]

In the age of the Internet, a bunch of officers, not to mention other military personnel, could not read the instructions in English? It's like a journey through the ears.

[hagen]

Quote: IVZ

It's like a journey through the ears.

We should start with the fact that it was for the development of these anti-tank systems at the Yavorovsky training ground that training was organized long before the NWO. Our own instructor staff with the translation of the user manual were ready a long time ago. To master foreign sophisticated artillery equipment, groups are systematically assembled and trained at NATO training grounds in Poland, Germany, and England. So the opportunity, at the very least, to urgently master the equipment new to the Armed Forces of Ukraine is provided. All this was shown on TV more than once, including even with the participation of the top officials of the involved countries. Johnson generally built the main emphasis of his policy on this. So the words of the colonel are somehow poorly supported by the facts. Another thing is that perhaps these trained instructors have already been "thinned out" .... But these are questions for the organization of mobilization events organized by the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Yes, the brigade commander himself should be asked questions about how he organized the combat training of the unit entrusted to him. As deputy brigade commander since 2020, he was directly responsible for the combat training of the brigade. Therefore, his words cause some bewilderment. Obviously, he says what they want to hear from him.

[Vladimir 290]

"Yes, the brigade commander himself should be asked questions about how combat training was organized by him" - I hope, nevertheless, that he will not be blamed for this in court. And the APU fighters are not only in English, they are not all versed in modern Ukrainian, especially technical terms. Recently, I tried to independently translate the instructions for "Afghan cauldron" from Russian (in the instructions) into Russian. Nothing happened, I had to watch a video on YouTube. So don't scold them too much.

[hagen]

Quote: Vladimir 290

So don't scold them too much.

To be honest, I didn’t write my comment for them at all. I analyzed the above opinion of the Ukrainian brigade commander in order to correctly assess this opinion, how truthful he is in his testimony. I think the investigation will ask him questions on this topic. Such people are a "vast" source of information.

[Vladimir 290]

I completely agree with you, that's why I wrote it.

[1976AG]

Quote: IVZ

In the age of the Internet, a bunch of officers, not to mention other military personnel, could not read the instructions in English? It's like a journey through the ears.

There is a common spoken language, but there are also technical terms and they need to be studied separately. There are no many technical terms in the Ukrainian language, they use Russian words. So it is quite possible that they understood some phrases, but not all of them.

[Alexander Salenko]

Aleksey, I have been to Western Ukraine twice, everyone there understands Russian very well.

[1976AG]

I'm not saying that they don't understand Russian, but that there are technical terms that are not in the Ukrainian language.

[alexey sidykin]

And earlier there were statements from ukrovoyak about this ... even the phone was shown where, before the death of the warrior, he tried to deal with Java via the Internet and, judging by the search engine, the requests there are not trivial.

[Mikhail Drabkin]

alexey sidaikin:

—-Believing the peremptoryness of a talkative prisoner, especially a colonel, is more expensive for yourself.

[alexey sidykin]

I wrote ... about the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have problems with NATO weapons precisely because of simple ignorance of how they are treated from the very beginning, information is coming.

[Paul Siebert]

Quote: Alexey Sedykin

And earlier there were statements from ukrovoyak about this ... even the phone was shown where, before the death of the warrior, he tried to deal with Java via the Internet and, judging by the search engine, the requests there are not trivial.

Yes, I posted this photo here.
And today I read a good post by our wonderful war correspondent Alexander Sladkov about the "holy Javelins".
Spread:

American Javelins proved to be ineffective in Ukraine. We have at our disposal internal documents of Raytheon, which manufactures these anti-tank systems.

In Ukraine, there is almost a cult of "holy Javelins", who supposedly can destroy any military equipment. But in fact, the complexes are not so good.

The documents indicate that the effectiveness of Javelin "is different from the declared." So, out of 11 test launches, only three hit a stationary target.

According to open data, the ATGM firing range can be up to 5 km. But internal documents say that it is twice as low

The Raytheon questionnaire, which was filled out by the US military who went through Iraq and Afghanistan, indicated that a third of the attempts to fire from the Javelin were "accompanied by problems."

These are trained fighters who have studied the Javelin and trained on the training grounds. Even they had difficulties. In addition, American soldiers do not fully understand from what distance the Javelin is guaranteed to hit the target.

[alexey sidykin]

That's it ... then it's not at all surprising that the VSU officers throw them in packs.

[alexey sidykin]

Translating the instructions is not enough ... you still need to figure it out. My sister bought a washing machine with instructions in Italian a long time ago, they translated it, but half of them still didn’t understand what was written.

[Alexander Salenko]

So the meaning must be understood, of course it will be difficult for the same Italian to explain that the water in the river is knee-deep, and there are a lot of fish, well, in short.

[Alexander Salenko]

It seems very similar, well, you need to somehow justify yourself for the fact that his brigade was smashed and he himself essentially fled, although he was still a bully.

[Charik]

the second time he encounters the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and is alive, you need to know that, and he himself said something about not wanting to fight the Russians

[Alexander Salenko]

I watched a video with him, where with black eyes, I agree that he behaved very worthily. On my side of this.

[air wolf]

Don't confuse technical English with spoken English, they are two different languages...

[Cat Alexandrovich]

There is a suspicion that the colonel is saying what he thinks they want to hear from him. Earns points. And his brigade was not hiding behind civilians? Is there something for the colonel to be afraid of in court?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Cat Alexandrovich

And his brigade was not hiding behind civilians?

Here, to be honest, they got about civilians.

[duschman80-81]

Does it hurt your eyes? I'm talking about civilians ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: duschman80-81

True eyes prick?

Yeah. Somehow a photo of our self-propelled guns was posted here. It stood between two nine-story buildings. So I don’t need to rub it about civilians.

[duschman80-81]

I saw .., self-propelled guns with Bandera on the armor.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: duschman80-81

I saw .., self-propelled guns with Bandera on the armor.

It was our self-propelled guns. And the photo was posted here.

[duschman80-81]

"It was our self-propelled guns. And the photo was posted here. "I say, YOUR Bandera self-propelled guns ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: duschman80-81

YOUR Bandera self-propelled guns ...

Dushman, and you did not beguile the coast? I am three-quarters a hare, and the rest is a Mordovian mug.

[duschman80-81]

And you argue, Mordovian mug, like a banderlog ... And don't say that it's not so

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: duschman80-81

And you argue, Mordovian mug, like a banderlog ... And don't say that it's not so

You, dushman, argue in your own way
It's not like that.

[duschman80-81]

Then read at your leisure if this is not the case... https://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_10699/9d8a5b6501a01da934c1bbd0ca9b1fd46df76a72/

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: duschman80-81

Then read at your leisure, if this is not so ...

What should I read? The day before yesterday I was drinking with the captain of the Airborne Forces, and he asked me one question:
Vovan, what the hell are we doing there?

[duschman80-81]

You can not read, then there will be a surprise. Excuse - "I did not know ..." will not work.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: duschman80-81

The excuse - "I did not know ..." will not work.

What are you talking about?

[duschman80-81]

Read the link and if not stupid, then you will understand everything.

[Charik]

maybe the residents have already been evacuated, which is why our sau hid there

[Mikhail3]

It's nice to see such self-control. The peacekeeper tears into pieces with iron, but you do not change in your face. You are tired of these trifles, they are not worth mentioning, because they have already been talked about. What a courageous field marshal! Cool! Ugh...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Mikhail3

The peacekeeper tears into pieces with iron, but you do not change in your face. You are tired of these trifles, they are not worth mentioning, because they have already been talked about. What a courageous field marshal! Cool! Ugh...

What is the flow of nonsense? Nifiga did not understand.

[Mikhail3]

Did you clean up the comment? Hey young man! But I’m a sucker, I didn’t copy your “honestly, they got it with this peaceful person.” Do you sleep peacefully at night? Everything is fine? Nothing hurts?)

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Mikhail3

Did you clean up the comment?

No, I didn't clean anything.

Quote: Mikhail3

Do you sleep peacefully at night? Everything is fine? Nothing hurts?)

You know, they hurt. Dead relatives are dreaming. Vovan, they say, come to us. And I'm kicking my arms and legs...

[alexey sidykin]

If we could manage them successfully, they wouldn’t be abandoned so easily ... our native RPG chots don’t lie around in every trench like this Jawa with Nlava.

[Alexander Salenko]

Yes, this is a NATO fosterling, he served with us in Feodosia, I must say, his unit raised its paws up last.

[Two]

Again the striped ones are to blame! Well, no way they are not given MOV!!!

[dmi.pris1]

Why? They were given a high-tech device. An inquisitive mind can use this for many things .. From lighting fires to chasing walls ...

[Mavrikiy]

Captured Ukrainian Colonel:

When the Javelin ATGM was handed over to the 36th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, no one explained how to use them

Colonel, you are a colonel. If you explain everything to you, then you will say, you need new batteries, but where can I get them, ask the amers? Zia, probably. And so he sold it to the terrorists, still defective, but they understand, they will make it like new. Israel delights me, as if the Jewelins do not touch it. Six months later, when the Middle East is saturated with them, the Merkavas will burn for a sweet soul. The longer the NWO, the more Jews will come there.

[usr01]

"technology in the hands of a savage is a piece of iron" (c)

[Snail N9]

Breshet Colonel. There, on the Javelin itself, there are instructions in pictures - the child will figure it out.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Snail N9

There, on the Javelin itself, there are instructions in pictures - the child will figure it out.

We also have applied. One hell, enough idiots, put a grenade launcher backwards.

[Nyrobsky]

What is there to understand? You take an expensive Javelin and sell it for cheap. You can also chop nuts with them. In general, it is necessary to arrange an informational sabotage and launch a duck to the ukrohuntiks that it contains a 50-gram pure gold plate. After that, they themselves will destroy all the javelins.

[rotmistr60]

The fact that many in the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not know how to handle Javelin and climbed the Internet was written more than once and phone numbers with requests to the search engine were shown. And the "news" that in the calculations of HIMARS, the Americans have been heard all the time. Either the site employee responsible for the news articles overslept a little, or they cannot find new materials. Okay, let's assume that "repetition is the mother of learning."

[Amateur]

Poor, poor colonel! And they didn't teach him English. And the videos from YouTube did not help him. Go and read / write in the state Ukrainian language, he does not know how. Only now he realized all this only when he was captured by the Russians. We need to quickly teach him how to sew mittens in some colony. 10 years, at least some benefit from it will be.

[Budger]

I will never believe this colonel! In the whole brigade, no one knew English at the level of "push", "take" and so on?

[Egoza]

Quote from Budger

In the whole brigade, no one knew English at the level of "push", "take" and so on?

And I believe. Because after these verbs comes the TERM! They would simply write: "Pull the rope," but no, they write about some kind of krakozyabra.))) You have no idea to what extent education has declined even in military schools.

[tralflot1832]

Yes, by the way, the Javelins were supposed to destroy our entire armored fist, more than once.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

When the Javelin ATGM was handed over to the 36th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, no one explained how to use them

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- You are not "to use", but to pray for him was transferred ...

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[Mikhail3]

The Americans poured hundreds of millions of dollars into the "training of the Ukrainian army." I wonder if at least one million was used for this, or were they all, to the cent, taken out of the country back to the USA, the state of Delaware?)) These are not some kind of militias, these are the marines ... to which American training never reached. I would not say that I am upset by this cool fact)

[Baron pardus]

In the American Society, and in the American Army, there is an abbreviation RTFM. As a rule, a Field Manual is transmitted with weapons. There is a lot written there.
https://irp.fas.org/doddir/army/fm3-22-37.pdf

[Uprun]

Who were taught at the NATO training grounds, most of them were already in hospitals or in the ground ... Today they are mobilized at the front end ... with a 3-day training. They shot at the horn, okay ... In the infantry, in addition to a variety of small arms, there is a lot more, automatic grenade launchers, bazookas, MANPADS, etc. .... Elementary, with a grenade launcher, you also need a handling skill ..., you also need to be able to throw a grenade ..., and there is a hodgepodge from Soviet and NATO weapons ..., NVP in schools was canceled ...., that's the result. .., they didn’t really master their own, but here are a lot of imports ....

[APASUS]

If it is difficult to deal with the Javelin, then how, then, did the Ukrainian army personnel deal with such weapons as HIMARS in a short time? There is a high probability that the US military is included in the calculations of these complexes, which has already been suggested earlier.

100% American officers are responsible for HIMARS guidance, otherwise the APU will have to transfer the codes from the military GPS for aiming.

[Shkiper]

Yes, a prisoner (the key word "Prisoner") will not tell you that. He will also tell what Grishka the impostor talked about with his father Varlaam on the Lithuanian border (V, Vysotsky)

[Glory1974]

complex weapons are difficult to control. You can quickly explain on your fingers how to use something, but this does not mean that in battle all those trained will use it successfully. Even most likely, all will not apply. There is a lot of evidence for this, starting with the dushmans in Afghanistan, who were given the "Stingers" to no avail, everyone had to be retrained in camps in Pakistan, only after that successful launches began.

[TermNachTer]

Once again, the old truth is confirmed that even the best weapons are just scrap metal if you don’t know how to use them. And the old can be fought well if you know its strengths and weaknesses and use it wisely.

[Viktor29]

So after all, Baranyuk’s words about the Javelins were already published a little after his capture in Mariupol, he even spoke about the difficulties of launching them in the city, why repeat?

[iouris]

This is a complaint to the US State Department.

[Serega1]

Himarsami shoot residents of the country of the Setting Sun - the United States, it's obvious! No one will trust Hymarsa's Ukrikam.

[Garist Pavel]

The Colonel whistles. They knew how to use it perfectly, they make innocent sheep out of themselves.

[Romanenko]

Well, of course, and he himself served in the brigade as a cook, then he was promoted to medical instructor with the rank of colonel, because there was no one else to give - everyone refused ...
Does he think that there are only baranyuks around too?
Let it not rub, the Marines are always taught, as well as the paratroopers.
This song is good, start over!