Rostec plans to show more than a thousand samples of weapons and military equipment at the Army-2022 forum

The international military-technical forum Army-2022, which is starting in Kubinka near Moscow, will become a platform for displaying more than 1 types of weapons and military equipment. The latest, promising and already adopted weapon promises to demonstrate Rostec.

According to the press service of the state corporation, the exposition will include samples of missile weapons, Tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, helicopters, including civilian ones, small arms and much more. The forum will present a new robotic infantry fighting vehicle BMP-3, and in dynamics. UVZ will present self-propelled guns "Msta-S" for 155 mm NATO caliber, as well as equipment that has already proven itself in hostilities, including during a special military operation in Ukraine, in particular the T-90MS tank, a combat vehicle support for tanks BMPT "Terminator", 152-mm self-propelled howitzer "Msta-S" with an automated fire guidance system, etc.

This year, our exposition will feature about 1 samples, including the latest types of weapons, military and special equipment and other technical solutions that are especially in demand on the market today.

- said Vladimir Artyakov, First Deputy General Director of Rostec.

Also, within the framework of the forum, samples of weapons and equipment aimed at a foreign buyer will be demonstrated, including Russian complexes with UAVs, armored vehicles, infantry fighting vehicles, small arms and melee weapons.

The military-technical forum "Army-2022" will be held from August 15 to 21 at the Patriot Congress and Exhibition Center in the city of Kubinka, Moscow Region. Visitors will be able to watch both static expositions and dynamic displays.

Comments

[SKVichyakow]

It is necessary not only to show it, but also to purchase it for our own aircraft.

[Freeman2022]

Quote: SKVichyakow

It is necessary not only to show it, but also to purchase it for our own aircraft.

From the last wars, as I understand it, you don’t need to buy everything in a row. First of all, you always need to strengthen the air. Multilayer air defense. Next is rocket artillery. And for everything to work as it should, good drones are also needed.

[SKVichyakow]

Quote from freeman2022

Quote: SKVichyakow

It is necessary not only to show it, but also to purchase it for our own aircraft.

From the last wars, as I understand it, you don’t need to buy everything in a row. First of all, you always need to strengthen the air. Multilayer air defense. Next is rocket artillery. And for everything to work as it should, good drones are also needed.

Not everything should be purchased, but what is necessary for fast, maneuverable control and the use of the weapons necessary for this throughout the entire depth of the enemy’s defense, a reliable communications and electronic warfare system, and the reliable air defense system you mentioned.

[Sebostyuan]

Our air defense is already in order. All of Russia cannot be covered with a thin layer of air defense and REB. We need: AWACS, planes, helicopters, URO for them. Means of communication, reconnaissance and target designation. KAZ for tanks, heavy infantry fighting vehicles, UAVs, Corrective shells for artillery and MLRS. And most importantly, we need a system to link it all together.

[SKVichyakow]

It all came down to the fact that advanced level electronics are needed, because. the creation of all of the above you listed depends on it.

[PROXOR]

That's what you need first of all, this is the military Internet. An analogue of this as in NATO. Over there, laptops are found in dill. And there is all the infa with intelligence from all NATO intelligence assets. Only this allows the dill to more or less not shit from every projectile nearby. Deprive Ukropov of this information now - the lads will tick to the Poles very quickly.

[alexey sidykin]

But in the USSR, we were the first to introduce such a system ... eh.

[PROXOR]

Now nothing is impossible. We need to focus on this. I hope the MO will pay attention during the NWO.

[Thrifty]

Where is the Coalition of the SV, so now needed in the troops on the front line? Where is ubbla? Maybe show only what we are fighting now? Didn't you get tired of showing off worthless?

[Kesha1980]

Didn't you get tired of showing off worthless?

Not at all. Or do you think that the export of arms is not needed and an extra "penny" for the development of the military-industrial complex will be harmful? Do you forget about the role of military-technical cooperation?

The business program of the international military-technical forum "Army-2021" ended with the signing of export contracts worth more than €2 billion

[Thrifty]

Kesha, now I’m going to step on someone’s sore corn, but it’s like 2022, one big boss promised us that in the army of T14 tanks 2 years ago there would be as many as 2000! How many of them are actually available in the army - maximum, 2-3 a dozen, that is, at best, a couple of mouths! Show-offs and false promises are so far from the truth of life, they would show HONEST what we are fighting now! !!

[Kesha1980]

Of course I agree - because it is undeniable. Regarding the T-14, it seems that a major miscalculation in "blinding" the car and turning it into a well-protected sarcophagus has long been known. You can also remember the Su-57. And not only.
We pay with large losses of l / s for miscalculations and gossip - I agree.
But! But the need for a forum in terms of economics and foreign policy is also undeniable.

[stelltok]

Regarding the T-14, a seemingly major miscalculation in "blinding" the car and turning it into a well-protected sarcophagus has long been known.

What miscalculation?

[Kesha1980]

Read - "major miscalculation".
Lack of proper protection of external electronic devices. Plus, the protection of the sensors is anti-shatter. Engine, etc. There are problems, I hope they are being solved.

[hagen]

Quote: Thrifty

one big boss promised us that in the army of T14 tanks 2 years ago there would be as many as 2000!

I don't remember such promises. But I remember the price of one T-14 for three T-90s. And I remember about the regimental kit for army trial operation. There is no point in smacking a fever with Armata. The T-90MS is quite a worthy machine capable of solving current problems. And CBO needs funds, and not small ones. You have to live within your means...

[Iris]

Yes. This is the motto of Rublyovka. In the meantime, we are fighting within our means. Removed from storage T-62, D-30 of the release of the 70s, tube radio stations .... No, of course there are newer units. The Ukrainians were not too lazy to deliver the captured T-90 to Prague in order to put it on the square along with the Msta-S self-propelled guns.

[stelltok]

Removed from storage T-62

At the same time, what is the difference between t62 (fully equipped) and t90 (or t72)?
Strong difference between machines? How does this affect the battlefield?

[stankow]

Lamp radios? Carry, carry? Is it on the video?

[ramzay21]

We must live within our means ...

You correctly noted this. Expenditures need to be cut.
If we put our ministers and deputies in ordinary apartments, reduce the personnel serving them by several times, transfer them from Mercedes and Audi to Toyota Camry, make them fly on scheduled planes instead of personal ones, then we can at least buy an additional Su-57 air regiment every year, a couple of T regiments -14 and a couple of frigates 22350.
If we really start fighting corruption and cuts, then the defense budget can be doubled.
And if you nationalize the state property stolen by oligarchs and officials, then you can cancel the VAT, reduce taxes and double the spending of the entire budget.
And such measures can be called "living within our means." And saving on modern weapons, paying the difference with the lives of our boys and civilians, is not "living within our means", this is a crime.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Thrifty

Kesha, I’m now stepping on someone’s sore corn, but it’s like 2022 here, one big boss promised us that in the army of T14 tanks 2 years ago there will be as many as 2000!

These were the wishes of the director of the manufacturing plant, comrade Sienko. Voiced by him at the ADEX-2016 arms exhibition that opened in Baku, apparently as part of an advertisement.
And the Customer, represented by Comrade Borisov, immediately said that there would be no mass purchases yet.

Mass purchases of this equipment will not be forced yet - according to Borisov, the military department adheres to the principle of "reasonable sufficiency."

But the journalists are all the same - that the army team, that the industrials - and it started to buy 2000 Armats.

[g1v2]

If you believe in this, it means that initially you have no idea about the pr-ve. As in principle, and most of those who speak. Even if we now make the project a priority and start riveting reinforcement as fast as possible, then we will rivet 2 thousand of them in 10-12 years, or even in 15. These are real time frames. All promises of 2 thousand armats or a thousand su57 in a few years or udk in 4 years were originally boltology and marketing. Look at the rates of production of various types of weapons for the 14th and 15th years - if not the modern maximum, then close to it. Focus on them.

[max702]

Tell me, what can we buy with the proceeds of 2-4 billion dollars \ euros? What will we need to sell with this money? And what is the point of selling weapons that would be useful to save the lives of the fighters themselves and bring the end of the database closer? We have money up to and more than one problem, we DO NOT SELL ANYTHING FOR THEM! Here on the accounts of Gazprombank hundreds of billions in foreign currency..And?

[Kesha1980]

I am surprised, but North Korea (!) sold us CNC machines. Extra? Are employees overpaid? Is influence in countries superfluous?
You can buy a lot through third or fifth countries.

[Mikhail Drabkin]

Kesha1980:

— There is a war going on! The military-industrial complex should work in three shifts for the needs of the Armed Forces.

—-Export of arms - under existing contracts. "An extra penny" is a criminal priority during the SVO.

[Kesha1980]

Firstly: not in all products of the military-industrial complex we have a "deficit approaching."
Secondly: if not for export orders, we would not have had some "products" at all. Pro in particular. Is it worth reminding about the Arabs and their money for development (Thor, it seems)?
These are not priorities, this is a solution to secondary strategic tasks that will not interfere with the first paragraph of your comment. No one is suggesting that critical samples be sold at an accelerated pace.

[SKVichyakow]

What kind of Coalition of the SV, at least the automated control systems for artillery were purchased and installed. It’s a true idea to show what we’re fighting now, otherwise the noodles don’t even fall off our ears, they say so bravely. The window dressing somehow did not tire “them” at all, they don’t participate, they party.

[Johnson Smithson]

Maybe show only what we are fighting now? Didn't you get tired of showing off worthless?

do you propose not to develop weapons? maybe then immediately go to the T-34 and PPSh?

[notingem]

I propose to stop hanging noodles on the ears of your people

[RED_ICE]

Exhibition primarily for wealthy Arabs and other "partners"

[AvesevA]

The coalition is at war, Ukrainians on Facebook are whining because of it

[stelltok]

Where is the Coalition of the SV, so now needed in the troops on the front line? Where is ubbla? Maybe show only what we are fighting now? Didn't you get tired of showing off worthless?

And how many coalitions of sv are available? Wikipedia (although a lot of nonsense is written there) says the number of issued, pcs. 12

[Stas157]

. as well as technology that has already proven itself in combat, including during a special military operation in Ukraine, in particular the T-90MS tank

Will they show the T-62 tank? After all, he also proved himself in Ukraine. It is necessary to expose - and suddenly someone will buy!

Yes. Nothing has been heard about Armata lately! Strange ... but at one time all her ears buzzed.

[SKVichyakow]

It looks like the problem with the engine is not solved. Or maybe they haven't shared yet.

[stelltok]

Nothing has been heard about Armata lately!

Don't want to fall into the wrong hands?

[Johnson Smithson]

It is necessary not only to show it, but also to purchase it for our own aircraft.

all of a sudden, that's what these forums are for,
they are not for couch critics, but for meetings between manufacturers and customers, and contracts, and not only for their own aircraft, but also for export
there will be no export, the military-industrial complex will not have funds for promising developments

without export, there would be no Terminator now, for example, it was made as an initiative development, and not by order of the Moscow Region, and at first only for export

[tralflot1832]

Kronstadt is also preparing an "airport". Since November last year, they promised to take up UAVs with satellite communication channels. Let's see what happened.

[Paladin]

A fresh idea, urgently it must be delivered to the GUV and GUIR MO))))))))

[Murmur 55]

And I am for the fact that they are not shown at the exhibition, but at the fronts, where they are oh so needed.

[Kesha1980]

The main purpose of the forum is the conclusion of interstate contracts. You know it, everyone knows it.
I'll probably go - a penny ticket

ENTRANCE TICKET FORUM "ARMY-2022". Available dates August 19-21 from 10:00-18:00
The price in the preliminary sale is 400 rubles. Price from August 16 and when sold on the spot on the day of the event -700 rubles.
The ticket price includes:
Attending the event on one of the days: August 19, 20 or 21

[Piramidon]

Quote: Murmur 55

And I am for the fact that they are not shown at the exhibition, but at the fronts

Exhibitions are also needed.

[Flooding]

The forum will present a new robotic infantry fighting vehicle BMP-3

The need for robotization of a combat vehicle with troops on board is not entirely clear.
Landed and went to rendezvous already in the remote mode?

[AvesevA]

Perhaps because in a car with a troop compartment there is more space for the entire filling and increased BC.

[Genry]

Most likely, there is understatement, which is fraught with far from the topic hacks.
In my opinion, robotization refers to the weapon module: it searches for targets itself and determines friend or foe.

[Flooding]

Quote from Avesev

Perhaps because in a car with a troop compartment there is more space for the entire filling and increased BC.

But this is no longer a landing machine.
Yes, they wrote about the use of the troop compartment for equipment for a long time.
As a palliative for working out solutions.
But that was three or four years ago.
Or more? I do not remember.
Use of the BMP as a temporary platform.
But in the end, you need to come to a different final look.

[tralflot1832]

Not long left, let's see what we have prepared for unfriendly countries. The fins from the oak finally collapsed. They also took up monuments.

[Murmur 55]

tralflot1832 , and why don’t the Finns eat a horseradish plant, if nothing comes from Russia for that, but the “civilized” West can pat it on the cheek as a token of gratitude.

[tralflot1832]

But the royal railway line will not be dismantled. Paradox.

[Murmur 55]

tralflot1832, so the Ukrainians seem to have announced decommunization, but the lands, factories, state district power plants and nuclear power plants are in no hurry to return, so here, well, I think it’s not over yet. If the Finns take this road, they will not soak it off.

[tralflot1832]

And I remember during the USSR they drove their herds of reindeer to us for grazing. I liked deer.

[Dilettante grandfather]

So after all, they need a railway! And they are dismantling it, and that’s it, they don’t have any more railway!

[nikolas 83]

And where are all these new items at the front? Every year they hang noodles on their ears. Yeah, hundreds of Orion UAVs are about to be released. Where is Altius? There has been no news for 2 years.

[Johnson Smithson]

in December, a whole plant for Orions began to work in Dubna,
yes, later than necessary, but to say that nothing is happening and there is no news is a lie and the spread of defeatism

[Alien From]

In fact, they would show it all!

[Sibguest]

I think - most of all there will be very interested guests from the Middle East (except Qatar), of course - Chinese "comrade spies", and, possibly, someone from Southeast Asia. The main thing: what will be shown - either has been working in real battles in Syria and Ukraine for a long time, or is about to be put into service. Well, what has been tested in battles and has shown its effectiveness is better than any beautiful advertisements. Basically, we'll take a look.

[Kesha1980]

Do not be surprised African countries.
IMHO in the load of grain and so on. Need relatively cheap wheat? First, show loyalty - buy weapons. And this is normal and even good. Credit? Bad, but for the refusal to "ban Russia" - is considered.

[Iris]

As a result of the Syrian campaign, 400 (four hundred) types of weapons and military equipment were removed from the armament of our army. And no Arabs will go to them. Egypt bought 19 Su-35s (airplanes have already been built), but then refused. Iraq said that, looking at the SVOL, it signed a contract for artillery systems with the United States and France. The Saudis, however, bought a cartridge factory, but that was five years ago. Unless Algeria is exporting so far ....

[Sibguest]

Sergey, there is no need to mix different factors "in a heap" - giving out "on the mountain" the conclusion that Russian weapons cannot compete with the United States. The same Egypt refused to purchase, succumbing to the PROMISE TO INCLUDE F-35 deliveries in the PROGRAM. How the Yankees keep their promises - ask Erdogan.
As for your first "argument" about the number of "removed weapons": You either just take the numbers "from the ceiling" or openly lie. So - various Russian sources say that from 300 to 600 types of military equipment were tested in Syria equipment (by the way, this is an incorrect wording, since we are talking about ammunition), and according to the results at the end of 2021, NO MORE THAN XNUMX TYPES of the RF Armed Forces were withdrawn from service.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

But weakly, as in 1941 - from the parade right into battle?

[Ros 56]

This is very good, but how about applying this to the Bandera barmaley?

[SaLaR]

Yeah ... Apply .. What if they break it? What then next year to show? Make a new toy for show?

[Kurganets-45]

do you understand how it works? the enterprise, on its own initiative, creates a car (for its hard-earned money), declares it to be shown at the Exhibition, and there, based on the results, work begins, do we have the Russian Defense Ministry without exception sponsoring the development of new technology? and these are all huge expenses, where to get that money?

[SaLaR]

Well, yes ... There is not enough money ... We must also give money to the West, otherwise they run out

[Ros 56]

It only seems so to you, money is always allocated for R&D, not enough, yes, I agree, but it is allocated.

[Kurganets-45]

it doesn’t seem to me, I’m in the subject and I know that there are initiative developments of enterprises, and there is R&D commissioned by the RF Ministry of Defense. These are different budgets.

[Ros 56]

One does not contradict the other, what is the noise about?

[notingem]

Is 350 billion in the West enough for development? Or again there is no money, but you hold on

[Vladimir Michailovich]

Quote: Kesha1980

Not at all. Or do you think that the export of arms is not needed and an extra "penny" for the development of the military-industrial complex will be harmful?

Yes, export buyers like Egypt do not need to pay for a long time, the same goes for other countries. You need to saturate your army with modern equipment. And it’s time to disperse Rostec with its analogues.

[tralflot1832]

Egypt has no money, but it's nothing that it has become a Mediterranean LNG hub on Israeli gas. Remind gas prices in Europe.

[Iris]

He wants to become a hub. But it won't. As there is no development of this field. Hezbollah has already laid eyes on him. And Erdogan made it clear that there would be no such hub.

[tralflot1832]

Ask how much gas Egypt receives from the Israeli gas field. You will be surprised.

[Kesha1980]

Those who do not have money, we will take resources. Venezuela - gave oil. And there is something to take from Mali and the Central African Republic. And so on. As it turned out almost half a year ago - money is zilch, more real is something that you can eat, etc.

[Havoc]

From the end of February, I stopped watching the Zvezda TV channel, where we were constantly told that if something happened, then our valiant electronic warfare systems would burn all enemy electronics within a radius of 300 km, jam all communications, land all drones and others. And what did they get when they stepped on the Chechen rake again - "The columns went and burned them there, the smoke stretched to Moscow" words from a song of those years. Where are the vaunted "Solntsepeki", why are they storming forest plantations in the old fashioned way, and not burning everything to hell. In general, there are too many questions, especially to the initial stage of the operation. As before, everything rests on the amazing courage of the Russian soldier.

[AdAstra]

I stopped watching even earlier when they buzzed and buzzed with armata, su-57s and ships, but they still didn’t exist.

[kytx]

Americans in business have this term "poor planning"
Here at the beginning of our we watched it in all its glory.
Someone has to sit down and for a very long time. And intelligence too.

[Dedok]

why is there an ad here?
NWO is going on, it must be said - how Rostec is helping now, and not about "samples": - about Almaty - we are already aware
and so - the president has already expressed his point of view

[Hindu]

Quote: Stas157

. as well as technology that has already proven itself in combat, including during a special military operation in Ukraine, in particular the T-90MS tank

Will they show the T-62 tank? After all, he also proved himself in Ukraine. It is necessary to expose - and suddenly someone will buy!

Yes. Nothing has been heard about Armata lately! Strange ... but at one time all her ears buzzed.

Yes, we don't hear much about it. About Aurus, for example. How is it, the line of Arab sheikhs has already resolved? Su 75 already over Donbass?
In the Russian Federation, they have mastered and tested the idea of ​​"analogue-net" design with pleasure. Goldmine. There are no analogues - there is nothing to compare with.

[Zaurbek]

"UVZ" will present self-propelled guns "Msta-S" under the caliber 155 mm NATO,

Who are these clients?

[kytx]

Hindus. Songs and dances included

[Iris]

Yes, the question is interesting.

[Petr_Koldunov]

So what to invent with Kubinka? Show them on the margins of "Ukraine-2022"...

[kytx]

Here's about a robot based on bmp3. What I know from open sources.
Dudes from some research institute set themselves the goal of making a robot based on BMP3.
This robot was supposed to fully retain the functions of the base machine.
Those they shoved equipment in modules around the fighting compartment.
1. Stupidly, the BMP carries the crew and troops. Managed manually.
2. BMP for telecontrol. There is no crew, of course. The control channel is allegedly noise-immune.
3. BMP robot. She goes to the right place. She finds her own purpose. She destroys herself. Operator involvement is not required.
The route is also chosen by itself. Pits go around and all that.
4. BMP resuscitation vehicle. She herself finds the wounded on the battlefield and takes them on board for evacuation.
The developers said: "how exactly this happens is our know-how. We will not disclose details."

The last 2 points sound like fantasy of course.

[Zaurbek]

It's all good, but there must be an information environment around, communication .... the system must be replenished with data online. Take for example Yandex taxi or navigator. Even so, the task is not an easy one.

[kytx]

Yes, I also think they boast

[Piramidon]

Quote: kytx

3. BMP robot. She goes to the right place...

... She herself lands a landing of androids.

[Vladimir Michailovich]

Quote: tralflot1832

Egypt has no money, but it's nothing that it has become a Mediterranean LNG hub on Israeli gas. Remind gas prices in Europe.

Negative balance Egypt has more than 5 billion dollars in trade with the Russian Federation. -v-2020-g/

[Vladimir Michailovich]

Quote: Kesha1980

Those who do not have money, we will take resources. Venezuela - gave oil. And there is something to take from Mali and the Central African Republic. And so on. As it turned out almost half a year ago - money is zilch, more real is something that you can eat, etc.

The countries of both Europe and the USA take resources, the Russian Federation gets only debts.

[Pipa Suriname]

We know how to show samples, and we also heard about analogues that no one has. Only in Ukraine they fight with the weapons that they fought in Afghanistan and Chechnya, for some reason the T-90, "Armata", "Tornado", they cherish like the apple of their eye, somewhere beyond the Urals, apparently for the war with American partners, so that they turn them into dust ... radioactive. In the meantime, for the fighters who are at the forefront, we are collecting from the world one by one, for UAVs, night vision devices, thermal imagers, helmets, armor, shoes ... Or is it not so? And we’ll fight before the new year and we’ll run out of contract soldiers, who are already in short supply on rotation, and there are no queues in the military registration and enlistment offices. No, you can say about the glass that it is half full, but it will not be half empty.

[Dilettante grandfather]

The forum is a useful thing, but it would be more useful to saturate our troops with the latest technology.

[marc75]

Now the Ministry of Defense reads the comments on the VO and will definitely supply 100500 Armat and 30 AUG To stand at the machine is not to knock on the clave ...

[Iris]

MO does not produce anything. In addition to reports, orders and directives. Give Konashenkov the task of changing the lamp in the barn - he will send an assistant.

[nordscout]

The forum is, of course, good, advertising, festive ... I express my modest hope that at this "celebration of military life" there will be samples of individual communication for EVERY NVO fighter in terms of quality, reliability and operating time on a "single charge" no worse than from "Motorola" .... And there is - after all, a "wizard" from the RF Ministry of Defense, who will purchase these samples for EVERY SOLDIER, WRITTEN OFFICER, OFFICER OF THE NATIONAL BORDER ... Loss (absence) of communication - loss of control of a squad, platoon, company, this is not executed order, unjustified losses of people, equipment, territories ... Something like that ...

[Al manah]

Quote: kytx

Someone has to sit down and for a very long time.

Unless in a higher chair.

[iouris]

"We have such devices! (But we won't tell you about them)"

[Sedoy]

Rostec plans to show more than a thousand samples of weapons and military equipment at the Army-2022 forum

[Victor_L]

Everything is beautiful on our forums, but on the fronts of Ukraine there is a lack of modern reconnaissance, correction, and defeat means.

[Vladimir Michailovich]

Quote: Thrifty

How many of them are actually available in the army - maximum, 2-3 dozen,

There is no need to carry their blizzard in service with -0, since funding for the creation of the engine and transmission was closed.

[Stepnyak]

Again, targeting foreign buyers. Then all this turns out to be another hot spot and works against us. Great tactic! The heads were completely blown away from green waste paper!

[Mikhail Maslov]

All this is good. But first of all, we need a concept for the development of the RF Armed Forces, and hence the concept of what the Armed Forces need. And there is a lot to change, implement, test in exercises and in real combat operations.

[notingem]

What did you quote Gorbachev? His style is to carry the blizzard

[Mikhail Maslov]

It is you who are carrying the blizzard. Without a clear understanding with whom and with what we are to fight, all these exhibitions are just PR. You can conclude contracts, you can fulfill these contracts, and then "successfully" mount the land version of the "Torah" on ships or dump all the mistakes on air defense, and that they are the last frontier, if they arrived, then they are to blame.

[notingem]

The usual yap in the style of Gorbachev