Information appeared on the network about falling into the hands of the Russian military of the HIMARS installation in Ukraine

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Remarkable information appeared on the network about the hit of another NATO weapons as a trophy for the Russian Armed Forces. In this case, we are talking about HIMARS universal launchers.

Recall that from such installations, Ukrainian troops strike at the cities of Donbass and the territories of southern Ukraine liberated by the RF Armed Forces.

The Americans delivered several Hymars with ammunition with a range of up to 80 km. Now the Ukrainian defense minister is asking the United States for supplies of missiles with a range of up to 300 km.

On the TGThe Russian Spring military correspondent channel reports that an American universal rocket launcher fell into the hands of our servicemen participating in a special military operation in Ukraine.

The network is discussing information about whether the Hymars MLRS came to the RF Armed Forces during the battle or whether it was implemented by dishonest Ukrainian military. So far this information is not available.

The source said in a statement that the HIMARS rocket launcher has already been transferred to the territory of the Russian Federation for study.

After studying the tactical-technical and technical-operational characteristics of the American missile launcher, the RF Armed Forces and the Republican People's Militia will have the opportunity to counteract such weapons supplied from the United States to Ukraine. Moreover, it will be possible to use this military equipment against Ukrainian armed formations and Ukrainian military facilities.
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  1. +17
    16 July 2022 00: 12
    video in the studio!
    1. +13
      16 July 2022 00: 50
      Quote: Anatoly Proskurin
      The installation fell into the hands ... and what?

      Yes, nothing! Will such an answer to your question suit you? laughing
      1. +2
        16 July 2022 06: 55
        Quote: ultra
        Yes, nothing! Will such an answer to your question suit you?

        The point is probably not in the installation, but in the ammunition for it.
        1. +4
          16 July 2022 08: 16
          Moscow will figure it out, both in the installation itself and in the ammunition for it .. But the fact that this is a very valuable trophy is beyond doubt.
          1. +1
            16 July 2022 23: 39
            sorry no confirmation. The MO could at least verbally declare - many would be satisfied.
    2. -7
      16 July 2022 08: 01
      Quote: Edvagan
      video in the studio!

      Probably not, this TG is famous for the frequent appearance of "slightly" untrue information ... I'm afraid that once again the turbo-patriots are in a hurry, because in just a couple of weeks these things got everyone (destroyed under 20 warehouses with bk and at a time almost the entire leadership of the 20th guards. msd.)…
      1. +3
        16 July 2022 09: 47
        (destroyed under 20 warehouses with BC and at a time almost the entire leadership of the 20th Guards. MRD.

        Do not tell me where the information comes from? Can be more detailed.
        1. -7
          16 July 2022 09: 54
          Quote: private person
          (destroyed under 20 warehouses with BC and at a time almost the entire leadership of the 20th Guards. MRD.

          Do not tell me where the information comes from? Can be more detailed.

          From where, from Camel probably. laughing laughing laughing They decide how many and how. If they said that there are 20 ammunition depots, then it means 20 depots, and not some bus stations and kindergartens. hi
        2. +6
          16 July 2022 10: 11
          Quote: private person
          (destroyed under 20 warehouses with BC and at a time almost the entire leadership of the 20th Guards. MRD.

          Do not tell me where the information comes from? Can be more detailed.

          You can just read even the domestic press (sometimes the “nitrate” will explode, then some other “pops”) for the last 3 weeks, an obituary about the division commander and his deputies has already been published too ... you can also watch a video of less turbo-patriots - for example, intelligence has already said that they laughed in vain at “rocket cars”, that attacks on warehouses were a big problem, and they had just begun to deal with dispersal ...
          1. 0
            16 July 2022 10: 49
            You can just read even the domestic press (either the “nitrate” will explode, or some other “claps”) for the last 3 weeks, an obituary about the division commander and his deputies

            I found everything, read it, thanks, but a sad picture emerges.
        3. -2
          16 July 2022 11: 58
          (destroyed under 20 warehouses with BC and at a time almost the entire leadership of the 20th Guards. MRD.

          Do not tell me where the information comes from? Can be more detailed.

          Have you tried to get information from heterogeneous sources of information, and not only from VO and think independently and logically?
          Look, the range of the Himars is 70 km, closer than 20 km they do not fit the front line.
          Question: I can assume that the Khimars were tracked down and destroyed by a rocket, I’m ready to admit that the MTR can go deep into the enemy’s territory for 20 km under cover of night and even eliminate the Khimars crew, but capture “a single type of equipment that is under special control and overtake it 20 km along behind enemy lines and cross the front line with a huge fool, forgive me, this is not even a fairy tale, but nonsense
          As for obituaries, this is from the same series, see not official news, but sad notes
          1. -1
            16 July 2022 13: 51
            but to capture "a single type of equipment that is under special control and overtake it 20 km behind enemy lines and cross the front line with a huge fool, sorry, not even fairy tales, but nonsense

            Sorry, but I didn’t even write about the fact that this "miracle of the MLRS" was captured by ours. If this were true, then all the news channels showed footage, but it’s just a duck. But it can be specially neglected.
      2. +12
        16 July 2022 09: 58
        This "information" has been dispersed by the fisherman for two weeks now. This looks especially funny in combination with Konashenkov's statements about 2 destroyed installations - that is, the Ukrainians sold the last 2 to the fisherman.

        These telegram channels have not yet answered for Caesars, but they are already trading haimars.
        1. +6
          16 July 2022 10: 10
          they haven’t answered for Caesars yet, but they are already trading in haimars.

          Perhaps I agree with you, there is no confirmation of empty words. Now, if the howitzer 777 fell into the hands of our military, even if it was damaged, then this video was shown on all TV channels in the news.
        2. +1
          16 July 2022 11: 37
          Quote: Negro
          This "information" has been dispersed by the fisherman for two weeks now. This looks especially funny in combination with Konashenkov's statements about 2 destroyed installations - that is, the Ukrainians sold the last 2 to the fisherman.

          These telegram channels have not yet answered for Caesars, but they are already trading haimars.

          The video with the allegedly destroyed ones has already been geolocated, it seems like fuel tanks, not MLRS ... a couple of TGs recently published a photo of an allegedly broken Hymars, but it turned out to be an FMTV armored tractor ... one is glad that it was smashed along with the dragged gun (it’s hard to determine in the photo what kind of weapon, but they seemed to be handed over to 777 in the kit)
          1. +2
            16 July 2022 12: 06
            Quote: parma
            The video with the supposedly destroyed has already been geolocated, it seems like fuel tanks there

            Comrade Lieutenant General never claimed that the video played in the background during his speech had anything to do with what he was saying at the time. It's just a background screensaver.
            Quote: parma
            an FMTV armored tractor ... one is glad that it, along with the dragged gun, was smashed (it’s hard to determine what kind of weapon in the photo, but they seem to have been handed over to 777 in the kit)

            Losses of towed artillery are inevitable, especially when retreating.
      3. +2
        16 July 2022 11: 39
        "... this TG is famous for the frequent appearance of "slightly" false information..."
        Completely agree with you. The news presented by the channel sometimes does not find confirmation. If they captured it, it’s good, they bought it, too.
        1. 0
          16 July 2022 13: 36
          I agree, this channel gives information wildly briefly, vaguely, vaguely, without confirmation.
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      5. 0
        17 July 2022 08: 44
        Infa, as I suppose, all from the same tg channels?)
    3. +1
      16 July 2022 23: 22
      Why video? to figure out who passed the installation? So you are either a traitor, or a Ukrainian, or a sheep
  2. 0
    16 July 2022 00: 15
    But this is good news! And I think not the last, low bow to our soldiers, officers! We have someone to be proud of!
    1. +12
      16 July 2022 00: 38
      what It would be nice if they attached a photo or video. And so it's just words.
    2. +14
      16 July 2022 01: 25
      Quote: non-primary
      But this is good news! And I think not the last, low bow to our soldiers, officers! We have someone to be proud of!
      I remember that for the "Stinger" someone in Afghanistan was given the Hero.
      True, it was before me, but they said that several groups were hunting for them when America supplied them with spirits.
      I would like to think that for such a landmark, advertised by America thing as "Hymars", the boys will also not be forgotten to be noted.
      1. -21
        16 July 2022 03: 29
        Soldier A-disappointing you! They decided not to give the star of the hero to anyone, because we did not officially fight in Afghanistan, but helped in deciding the development of the country.!
        1. -2
          16 July 2022 05: 26
          And Rudsky has a hero star for what then?
          1. +3
            16 July 2022 06: 01
            Alexander Salenko-I'm talking about the fact that three groups got this Stinger in Afghanistan, but no one received the star of the Hero of the Soviet Union! hi
          2. +1
            16 July 2022 06: 21
            Quote: Alexander Salenko
            And Rudsky has a hero star for what then?

            Rudsk pilot, in Afghanistan he performed combat missions on the Su-25. Stinger definitely did not participate in the capture. Star for other achievements.
            1. 0
              16 July 2022 09: 10
              Then the Order of the Red Star was honored. And what is now equivalent to him?
              1. -1
                16 July 2022 11: 42
                Probably the Order of Courage.
          3. +1
            16 July 2022 10: 41
            Quote: Alexander Salenko
            And Rudsky has a hero star for what then?
            Are you talking about Rutskoi?
      2. 0
        16 July 2022 05: 09
        The series was filmed, I remember, on this topic .. "Hunters for .. caravans" was called that .. Not that it was a cranberry, but in general it was interesting to watch. It seems to be filmed based on real events, judging by the documentary about the series and the prototypes of the main characters ..
      3. +5
        16 July 2022 07: 35
        No one received a Hero for a stinger. They promised and blew it. They threw Kovtun, Sergeyev received the Red Star. Only in the XNUMXs, Sergeyev and Kovtun were awarded the titles of Heroes of Russia. Sergeyev was awarded the Hero of Russia posthumously. There was a war, but in a war there are enough heroes and scum.
        1. 0
          16 July 2022 14: 20
          Quote: Emergency
          No one received a Hero for a stinger.

          I served later and therefore said only what I heard. I did not specifically deal with this issue, I myself did not see the participants in the capture of the Stinger. The platoon leader once told in the smoking room. I bought it for what I sold it for.
    3. +6
      16 July 2022 08: 38
      Do not praise in advance, there is no confirmation, and fakes are now in bulk. And don’t take away bread from Mikhan, he still hasn’t pressed a laudatory Ode and a couple of slogans here. laughing
  3. +3
    16 July 2022 00: 20
    I wonder at what price. Before that, there was information on the Internet about 800 thousand green ones.
    Someone got rich.
    1. +3
      16 July 2022 01: 15
      They wrote that they were guarded by the fshists so that they would not be stolen, maybe they were sold together with the connected fshists? laughing
      1. 0
        16 July 2022 13: 02
        “They wrote that their Nazis are guarding”
        Yes, they are the best entrepreneurs. laughing
    2. +2
      16 July 2022 03: 32
      German4223-yes, on some Internet resources it is indicated that they sold it to us for the amount of 800 thousand dollars. In addition, all types of missiles that are in service, and some secret documentation, were allegedly supplied with it!
    3. +1
      16 July 2022 04: 50
      I do not think that it was so. This weapon is operated by carefully selected crews and most likely by Western instructors. Most likely, a trap was set up, a special operation.
      1. +1
        16 July 2022 09: 16
        I agree with you, such equipment is far in the rear, you can’t take it without specialists. Yes, and the version of the sale has the right to exist.
        1. -1
          16 July 2022 13: 08
          With the help of this installation, they strike at deep rear areas, and its range is only 80 km. Therefore, this installation has to crawl close enough to the front line.
  4. -29
    16 July 2022 00: 27
    The installation fell into the hands ... and what? The rest of the hacker script blocked? Or TOMORROW all the hamers will flash in bright circles on the maps of our artillerymen? ... Where is the profit, uncle? online target designation to the Mazepchans as before ... what is essentially the result ?? !!!
    1. +12
      16 July 2022 00: 41
      And what's wrong, nephew, that they took the installation for themselves? Cry about it?
      Or we will rejoice when we take Washington. And Beijing is next, so that there are no competitors. And earlier it was impossible - because there is always a fly in the ointment, or even not a spoon, but a scoop with a top.
      1. +4
        16 July 2022 05: 40
        "Grieving patriots" touch with their ability to turn any luck into a mess
        1. -1
          16 July 2022 10: 55
          Quote: dmi.pris
          "Grieving patriots" touch with their ability to turn any luck into a mess
          It is difficult to call them "grieving", because they are not at all sorry. Frightened, whimpering, whining, howling ... In general, judging by the result of the impact on the audience, they are "dull patriots." They are here, nmv, opposed by "vigorous patriots".
    2. +1
      16 July 2022 05: 28
      In essence, you would be in the General Staff, they would definitely teach the generals how to fight.
    3. 0
      16 July 2022 09: 20
      A strange approach, they took it, so what, it makes sense to know.
  5. +5
    16 July 2022 00: 43
    When they show, then I will believe! Balabolov divorced through the roof!
  6. -3
    16 July 2022 00: 51
    Jokes are jokes, but there can be consequences.
    By the way, even / if they look, even if they take it apart and what, it will immediately become clear how to fight against it ??? Why would it suddenly?
  7. +1
    16 July 2022 00: 54
    Moreover, it will be possible to use this military equipment against Ukrainian armed formations and Ukrainian military facilities.

    Is it that simple? This is still not a GLOCK pistol or even Javlin, a technique of a different order. Of course, it is possible to shoot "in the direction of the enemy", but I doubt it "to hit the target", because all high-precision use is tied to "their" network and access is unlikely to be obtained. It is certainly necessary and extremely useful to study this, but this statement is what a populist or something ...
    1. -1
      16 July 2022 09: 14
      It's not easy, but let's figure it out, "it's not the gods who burn the pots." Of course, the technological process, the equipment is different, but we will figure it out and do it better.
    2. 0
      16 July 2022 09: 36
      Or maybe the possibility of introducing a virus into their code system is possible, there are a lot of options.
    3. -1
      16 July 2022 11: 22
      Quote: Gvardeetz77
      Moreover, it will be possible to use this military equipment against Ukrainian armed formations and Ukrainian military facilities.
      Is it that simple?
      Looking for someone. For me personally, it's unrealistic.
      Quote: Gvardeetz77
      This is still not a GLOCK pistol or even Javlin, a technique of a different order. Of course, it is possible to shoot "in the direction of the enemy", but I doubt it "to hit the target", because all high-precision use is tied to "their" network and access is unlikely to be obtained ...
      Weapons that can be accessed in "their" network are handled by military engineers. They will figure it out somehow, or learn to intercept or suppress the adjustment.
  8. 0
    16 July 2022 00: 55
    I wish this news was true...
    But, frankly, all these "military correspondents" during the siege of Mariupol and in general during the fighting in the Donbass discredited themselves ...
    1. +3
      16 July 2022 07: 43
      Not all. Why so indiscriminately everyone? There are thoughtful balabols, there are those who, having heard enough of the heroic speeches of individual warriors, get into a mess, there are also meticulous ones who want to check every piece of information personally and the devil is not their brother (they are not afraid of anything). Different specialists, as in any field of activity.
    2. 0
      16 July 2022 09: 37
      Deza is also needed.
    3. 0
      20 July 2022 10: 04
      So disinformation is needed, but how without it.
  9. 0
    16 July 2022 01: 08
    Did the beech rocket explode?

    https://m.vk.com/video-70187376_456268921?list=e4375c38c24fb6feba&from=wall-70187376_4729848
    1. KCA
      +4
      16 July 2022 06: 41
      More like a gas leak
    2. 0
      16 July 2022 09: 39
      Where is it? In the Kiev region?
  10. +11
    16 July 2022 01: 11
    For the third day in carts they are "buzzing" about it, but there is zero reaction from that side, while shit about the "Caesars" immediately boiled over from that side. Considering the information that the Ukrainian only drove this installation, and the rest are coming out Negroes, the reliability of this information is highly doubtful, except that it can add a little oil to the fire of the scandal with the sale of the supplied weapons. Although, of course, for the purpose of general development, so to speak, it is necessary to obtain such equipment from a purely engineering point of view, it’s good when you have ideas in your head, but it’s also very good when you have the opportunity to evaluate ideas in the minds on the other side of the planet.
    1. 0
      16 July 2022 09: 41
      Here is the correct approach.
    2. +1
      16 July 2022 10: 01
      Quote: doktor_alex
      , while about the "Caesars" shit immediately boiled up from the other side.

      On the other side there was a post in the cart of some French clown. Everything, nothing more.
    3. +1
      16 July 2022 11: 52
      Bad people (radishes) sometimes publish fakes in their telegram channels. Nothing personal, just a rating.
  11. -2
    16 July 2022 01: 15
    Now the Minister of Defense of Ukraine is asking the United States for supplies of missiles with a range of up to 300 km.

    And this clown generally knows that there is already a different type of rocket. This is the OTRK MGM-140 ATACMS. Only one rocket fits onto a wheeled himars. They already have their own Points-U in bulk. And this Amerovsky missile without its GPS is no better than the same Tochka-U.
    ATACMS Block IA is a tactical missile with a cluster warhead for 300 combat elements and an inertial control system (CS) equipped with a GPS receiver, a vertical final trajectory [5] and a firing range of up to 300 km;
    1. 0
      16 July 2022 01: 49
      Still, if there is GPS, then the American tactical missile is an order of magnitude more accurate than Tochka-U.

      The difference is the same as between an unguided projectile from Tornado and a guided one from Himars.
      1. -3
        16 July 2022 04: 22
        The projectile is a tornado, it is not controlled, the point has an inertial guidance system
        Though not as accurate as Jeepies
        1. KCA
          +2
          16 July 2022 06: 44
          For "Smerch" there are guided missiles with GLONASS correction with a range of 120 km, as it were, they will even be better, 30 km difference in range
          1. 0
            16 July 2022 06: 51
            I heard that they are more in theory
            I don't really know
            because they still need a programmer and other
            1. KCA
              +1
              16 July 2022 07: 02
              There is, of course, otherwise why develop a projectile, besides, the entire range of RS from "Smerch" is suitable for "Tornado-S"
              1. +1
                16 July 2022 07: 06
                This does not mean that they are in the troops and are used
                They still need reconnaissance equipment, but that's the trouble
                1. KCA
                  +3
                  16 July 2022 07: 15
                  But Caliber, Iskander, aviation missiles, barrel artillery and MLRS do not need reconnaissance equipment? Somehow, the Caliber from the Black Sea hit targets on the western outskirts, do they find it themselves?
                  1. 0
                    16 July 2022 13: 46
                    A cruise or ballistic missile with a warhead of 500 kg and a range of 500 to 1500 and a cost like an airplane you manage to compare with the RSZO. Well good luck. what is there
      2. -3
        16 July 2022 07: 55
        And what is the difference between a guided projectile from Tornado and a guided projectile from Himars?
        1. +1
          16 July 2022 10: 09
          A guided projectile from Smerch exists on paper, and from Himars - in mass production.
          1. 0
            16 July 2022 13: 01
            You're wrong.
            https://topwar.ru/198234-upravljaemye-reaktivnye-snarjady-dlja-rszo-tornado-s-v-boju.html
            1. +1
              16 July 2022 13: 07
              I mean, did you see something like him once? OK, accepted.
      3. 0
        20 July 2022 01: 54
        And which MLRS shells are controlled by Himars? Well, how can you tell? Not those OTRK missiles, but which MLRS. Which fits into Himars 6 pieces, and in MLRS - 12.
    2. -1
      16 July 2022 10: 08
      Quote: Kedrovich
      there is already a different type of rocket

      The same container, one took out, the second put.
      Quote: Kedrovich
      They already have their own Points-U in bulk

      Points-U have lain without maintenance for 30 years, and 30 years ago they were junk. She can only shoot around the city, where the Soviet god sends.
  12. -2
    16 July 2022 01: 35
    If not a joke of humor, then the mattresses are completely, from head to toe ..., a waste product of pots.
    Let's wait for Konashenkov's cheerful report.
  13. +3
    16 July 2022 01: 47
    If this American MLRS really fell into the hands of our army, it would have already been shown on Channel One, as was the case with the M777 howitzer)).

    So there is nothing to be happy about. This is all empty talk.

    These American and new NATO systems are monitored and they don’t give it to anyone, it’s not Javelin or Stinger, which were brought to Ukraine by the thousands.

    But our command, as I wrote earlier, needs to make an official announcement via the Internet and on TV that for the voluntary surrender of the latest NATO howitzers, MLRS, counter-battery radars, etc. Russian army military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be followed by a million dollar cash bonus, for example + a Russian citizen's passport + a protection program, by analogy with the protection of a witness in law enforcement agencies.

    Even if no one sells us anything in the West, they will once again beware of supplying the Armed Forces of Ukraine with something new, and if they sell it, it’s generally great.

    Let me remind you that the United States received the MiG-17 in Korea in this way, scattered leaflets about rewards and one traitor flew to their side, with the Mi-24 the same story was in Afghanistan, but with a lot of things, and we get all the trophies in battle paying with the blood of our soldiers. We have money, let's buy!
    1. -3
      16 July 2022 06: 04
      He wrote everything correctly: both about chatter and about trophies
    2. 0
      16 July 2022 06: 14
      Mi-24 did not hear, but MIG-25 heard. His pilot stole to Japan
      1. +2
        16 July 2022 07: 51
        The name of the goat is Belenko, he stole it from Chuguevka. But no one offered him anything, the initiator.
        By the way, squadron political officer.
  14. -3
    16 July 2022 02: 24
    How amazing .... Ukrainians sell everything that is possible and everything, that is impossible (a little more carefully)
  15. -1
    16 July 2022 04: 02
    If not a lie, then in the future, after studying it, it would be useful to use this RSZO in Ukraine against the Pind.sov mercenaries, with wide media coverage, if possible.
    1. 0
      16 July 2022 08: 09
      Smart thought.
      Some of the weapons are already being used against the Ze team.
  16. -1
    16 July 2022 04: 08
    Quote: Herman 4223
    800 thousand green

    880.
    Question. Even if we have the installation, is it complete with rockets or just a cart on wheels?
    1. KCA
      +1
      16 July 2022 06: 46
      Rockets are easier to buy than installation, even a bunch
  17. -3
    16 July 2022 04: 27
    This is great news.
    But didn’t they take the ovian crew with equipment?
  18. -3
    16 July 2022 05: 03
    Maybe stop promoting these Hymers already? It is necessary to fight in such a way that no Hymers could influence the course of hostilities.
  19. -3
    16 July 2022 05: 17
    If you get that, apart from patriotic rejoicing, nothing will change .. In fact, this is an ordinary cart with launch guides .. The point is the filling of shells for it and software .. without components of the electronic base, this cannot be repeated and not used .. Embedded system ZHPS? So what .. we have Glonass .. only devices are a couple of kilograms heavier and the size of a brick ..)) And about "using a captured installation." there can be no question at all .. Make smart missiles for "Smerch" - and we will be happy .. Make smart shells for our artillery - and there will be a reason for pride .. Put computers on the equipment for programming accurate shooting .. - this is a reason for joy and rejoicing .. And trophies .. In any war, trophies are a good reason for an award .. I hope the awards will find those involved, and not just staff ..
    1. -1
      16 July 2022 06: 09
      "smart projectiles", they already exist: "Krasnopol". They were talked about on TV and on the website
      1. 0
        16 July 2022 08: 40
        Is there.. And...? How often do we hear and read about exactly where they ended up? We have many things. Both on paper and in hardware .. - the point is that this should be used in the troops, and not at exhibitions .. And yes, put more minuses .. From this, no doubt, our fighters will definitely have more "smart "weapons..
      2. +1
        16 July 2022 11: 06
        So it seems that he needs a backlight .. target designation
    2. KCA
      +1
      16 July 2022 06: 49
      Smoke about RS 9M542 and enlightenment will come
  20. -5
    16 July 2022 06: 05
    On behalf of and on behalf of the Russian military-industrial complex, gratitude to the Armed Forces of Ukraine for the opportunity to study Hymers.
  21. -2
    16 July 2022 06: 43
    It's complete bullshit, don't be fooled. Perhaps a specially launched Ukrosmi duck to laugh at you. If this were true, then it would show off on the first channel as another victory for Russian weapons. Exactly the same story as with the French howitzer ...
    1. 0
      16 July 2022 06: 53
      They also said about the captured howitzer 777 that everything was fake and a cartoon, and a day later they showed a photo of 777. And it turned out that it was true

      Captured American howitzer at the people's militia of the LPR


      Wait a couple of days, the trophy Himars will be shown soon
      1. -2
        16 July 2022 07: 22
        but what about the frog self-propelled gun?
      2. +3
        16 July 2022 10: 20
        Quote: Santa Fe
        They also said about the captured howitzer 777 that everything is fake and a cartoon,

        Who spoke? 777 is now, in fact, the most massive art of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Naturally, if the Armed Forces of Ukraine are retreating, and not advancing, getting some kind of towed artillery into the hands of the enemy is inevitable. All the more specifically this gun gouging.
    2. KCA
      +1
      16 July 2022 07: 04
      The army has a leadership and a Special Department, they decide what to show and what not, not you
  22. 0
    16 July 2022 06: 59
    I read the comments and wonder. In all seriousness, the "couch" require photo and video evidence, otherwise you see, they do not believe. Moreover, the information is still walking only on the Internet. But often they do not believe the official reports of the RF Ministry of Defense either. I would like to ask, who are you to make the General Staff report to you and worry about whether you believe or not?
    It would be interesting to look at such a "brave" during the Second World War, who at least once shouted I do not believe the reports of the Soviet Information Bureau. In the army there is such a concept of bringing information - "as far as it concerns them." And you non-believers are not even in the army, but on your couch.
    1. +6
      16 July 2022 10: 15
      Quote: rotmistr60
      and who are you to report to the General Staff and worry about whether you believe or not?

      Russian citizen. No, won't you get an answer?
      Quote: rotmistr60
      It would be interesting to look at such a "brave" during the Second World War, who at least once shouted I do not believe the reports of the Soviet Information Bureau.

      Another one was going to repeat the Second World War?
      1. -3
        16 July 2022 10: 38
        Another one was going to repeat the Second World War?
        You either read the comment carefully, or sometimes turn your head on. Who, what has gathered and where is it written in me?
  23. 0
    16 July 2022 07: 21
    firstly, a hundred-pound lie, the same as about frog self-propelled guns.
    Secondly, during the Second World War, Katyushas also got to the Germans, but they never learned how to make rockets for them ...
    1. 0
      16 July 2022 22: 00
      AwaZ (Walery)
      during the Second World War, Katyushas also got to the Germans, but they never learned how to make rockets for them

      You don't know history. Not only did the Germans make copies of them, they also improved them. And when the German copies already got to ours, they even, in turn, borrowed something from the Germans. The Germans could not copy our gunpowder, yes. See at least here: https://vk.com/wall-39695140_1413013. And the Germans independently developed 280 and 320mm caliber rockets, which ours had already copied and produced under the name "Vanyusha". Another question is that the Germans did not mass-produce rocket artillery and did not consider it a serious weapon.
      1. 0
        17 July 2022 08: 17
        I know the whole story. The Germans could not realistically repeat the most original and most significant component of the installation. Bungling rails or rockets for them is not difficult. Right now, even the savages of the MLRS are making homemade ones. But for the USSR, accuracy was just not so important, and such garbage is still present, we are all trying to figure out the areas.
        So, the Germans really couldn’t repeat the gunpowder, and while they were suffering, the war began to end and only then it made no sense.
        I’m talking about the fact that if the installation is dragged away, even with missiles, for us it’s only purely to see how their engineering idea works. For a long time, ours have not delved into American technology. However, it doesn’t make much sense to repeat this, because it’s easier, if you find something unique with them, to apply it in our good old systems.
        1. +1
          18 July 2022 11: 01
          Awaz
          For a long time, ours have not delved into American technology
          This is not true. Something ours got in Ossetia, in 2008, and in Syria.
          I do not think that the light version of the MLRS installation, which is 100 years old in the afternoon, will give out any revelations. But, some technical solutions may be of interest - the design of individual parts, inertial, guidance equipment. And to repeat - yes, it makes no sense. Yes, ours after the B-29 did not copy any foreign equipment, only individual technical solutions (for example, the flap release unit from the F-105, or the IK-GOS from the Sidewinder missile)
  24. +3
    16 July 2022 07: 27
    Such a presentation - This is not information - This is still stuffing.
    And that's why we still don't supply trophy stingers to America's separatists??? Yes, and it's time to send to Europe - let them feel their love on themselves hi
  25. -2
    16 July 2022 08: 09
    Well, they said: "We'll take it anyway!"
  26. +1
    16 July 2022 08: 53
    The source said in a statement that the HIMARS rocket launcher has already been transferred to the territory of the Russian Federation for study.


    As expected...
  27. +2
    16 July 2022 09: 03
    Haven't found any info confirming this.
  28. -2
    16 July 2022 09: 29
    If you are captured, be sure to study it: it is logical and correct!

    This HIMARS was so slandered: nothing special, and we have better... And then suddenly: "Moreover, it will be possible to use this military equipment against Ukrainian armed formations and Ukrainian military facilities." - so if we have it better, why the possibility of using it against the Armed Forces of Ukraine to present it with such pathos?
  29. -3
    16 July 2022 10: 40
    the same trophy hymars

    1. 0
      16 July 2022 11: 11
      Well, but here's some kind of non-commodity view, it was ours that was shot down or the enemies destroyed during the retreat.
      1. -4
        16 July 2022 11: 27
        I do not know
        Quote: Titus_2
        Well, but here's some kind of non-commodity view, it was ours that was shot down or the enemies destroyed during the retreat.
    2. +4
      16 July 2022 12: 10
      Have you determined the cabin?

      This is an ordinary American FMTV truck. 120 of them were delivered, mainly as thrust for howitzers.
      1. -2
        16 July 2022 13: 49
        I know that this is a truck from the fmtv family, which is why I wrote that this is the same himars as it was with Caesar
  30. -2
    16 July 2022 13: 05
    So they write Tornado-S cooler
  31. -1
    16 July 2022 13: 12
    Ours didn’t learn anything new there .. But the fact that the Amers command there has long been known
  32. +2
    16 July 2022 13: 21
    They write about victories in large letters, there is silence about ours in captivity, one said that, about a thousand. Where are you cheers-patriots, write the truth. Or this truth is not for everyone. They didn’t come out with a snout to know. Here our President with no analogue and uniqueness wants to send us to paradise without asking us if we want this.
  33. 0
    16 July 2022 13: 34
    Information appeared on the network about falling into the hands of the Russian military of the HIMARS installation in Ukraine
    Unfortunately, this "information" is from the category of propaganda and disinformation messages (about which many rightly wrote here and with which the so-called guardians categorically disagree).
  34. +1
    16 July 2022 13: 52
    For now, it's just gossip.
  35. -1
    16 July 2022 15: 46
    It is necessary to study missiles, and not universal platforms, they are "universal" for that, that different missiles can be fired with different ranges and controls.

    I believe that our "Hurricane" or "Smerch" in 12 shots against 6 "Himars" is more "pleasant" for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
  36. -1
    16 July 2022 16: 02
    Quote: parma
    20 warehouses with BC and almost the entire leadership of the 20th Guards at a time. msd.

    Numbers are so round only in my head.)
  37. +1
    16 July 2022 19: 31
    If in good condition, then reverse engineering will give very good results. These installations were originally developed based on quality, while the descendants of the Katyushas were based on quantity.
  38. -1
    16 July 2022 19: 35
    Is the sowing plant interesting for our military-industrial complex to study? If only its guidance system and the ammunition itself. And so - this is almost "yesterday" in the development of the MLRS. Our "Tornado" will be "more abruptly" in matters of reliability of survivability and "coverage" of areas ... God grant him ammunition with a firing range of 380 km! We hope that he is "on the way" ..... And this information (about HIMRS) is not just another journalistic "fake" to raise the "relaxed" (with the departure of McDonald's, Mercedes, Ikea from Russia) "spirit" Russian layman? Maybe they will show us a photo of this "beast" in the yard of NPO "Splav"? Or a photo of the French CAESAR within the walls of Uralvagonzavod? Judging by the feedback from the CAESAR operators, it is flimsy and capricious for the post-Soviet theater of operations .... However, for now, these "animals" are crap ... So the RF Armed Forces will destroy them!
  39. -1
    16 July 2022 21: 54
    Until we see the photo / video, it is premature to judge the capture. The truck itself and the launcher are nothing of interest. Missiles - yes, they can have raisins. It would even be more interesting to capture missiles in containers than a shot installation. It will not work to use the captured installation against ukrov. First, you need to deal with it first. And secondly, there will not be a lot of ammunition for it. In short, for study, and for museums. In general, speaking, the significance of only four installations (and most likely already two) is greatly exaggerated. By the way, the installation (or missiles for it) may well be captured as a result of a special operation. I emphasize that the machine itself and the launcher have no particular value. But to remove equipment from it, grab a couple of missiles and a trained operator and take everything out by helicopters
  40. 0
    16 July 2022 22: 25
    Russian engineers will learn from their American colleagues how to make military equipment, so that in order to bring this equipment ready for battle, you don’t need a truck crane or another special vehicle.
  41. +1
    17 July 2022 07: 58
    If it hit, all TV channels would be full of this video.
  42. +1
    17 July 2022 11: 58
    First, Caesar without proofs, then the German Pz-2000, also unfounded, somehow it was not surprising that Hymars was now captured. But it’s not even something that you can’t believe, but just an attitude like noodles on your ears
  43. 0
    17 July 2022 23: 26
    How much this time?!