Deputy Prime Minister Borisov: The Russian military is using the latest Su-57 fighters in Ukraine

The Russian military is using the latest fifth-generation Su-57 fighter jets in combat operations in Ukraine. And this is not about any single case.

This was announced at the economic forum in St. Petersburg (SPIEF) by the agency Interfax Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov, who oversees the Russian defense industry.

Repeatedly involved - and single sorties, and several aircraft in coordination, in information interaction used aviation means of destruction

- said a senior official.

He claims that the new combat aircraft during the military operation to protect the republics of Donbass and their population demonstrated their high efficiency in practice and received good feedback from the Russian military. This applies not only to the fighters themselves, but also to the weapons placed inside their fuselages.

For the first time, the use of the Su-57 in a special operation on Ukrainian territory was reported at the beginning of this month by the agency RIA News, citing an unnamed source. He claims that the latest Russian aircraft destroyed Ukrainian air defense systems. Performing combat missions, military equipment operated within the framework of a single information network.

The Su-57 is the first multifunctional fighter of the 5th generation created in Russia.

Comments

[Tusv]

Columns of smoke and mushrooms after explosions suit me

[Real Pilot]

What a beautiful plane!
And the opportunity to test it, especially in the role of an air defense hunter, will only benefit the newest car. Children's diseases are treated, strong teeth appear ...

[Mavrikiy]

Deputy Prime Minister Borisov: Russian military use in Ukraine the latest Su-57 fighters

And what is he on? Fly, evade missiles, it's useless.

[Tusv]

Quote: Mavrikiy

And what is he on? Fly, evade missiles, it's useless.

Fly and worship. this is normal for a hawk. And the fact that no one saw him, I would be wary. Let me remind you that the Raptor claims 0.002 as the effective dispersion area and was captured by the Su-35 pilot in the tail. Ours with 0.2 would not be seen anywhere. Drawing conclusions

[Awaz]

Well, firstly, you shouldn’t trust Borisov and all the officials, so it’s not a fact that they work there. Secondly, all the so-called "invisibles" have more or less weak visibility in the frontal projection, in any other case they glow not much less than any other technique. Therefore, for ground-based air defense, they are not a problem.
And that’s why it seems to me that we don’t see them because they aren’t there, or they fly where Ukrainian air defense is lacking .. but this is a demonstration of stupidity ..

[Cottodraton]

Well, yes, you just need to believe, "thinking people"! All clear

[Awaz]

well, I’m not the ultimate truth, but I have experience of observing what our officials say for many years, and especially after they recognized the LDNR .. They know how to chat, especially when one head says one thing and the other is completely opposite, and when it’s completely ass they are trying to cover it up..

[Sexton]

Why then was the Beskydy railway tunnel not destroyed? This is the main target for the Su-57! So it doesn't apply!

[Awaz]

The air defense of Ukraine has not been suppressed, on the contrary, it has now begun to work more efficiently and therefore our planes do not fly over Ukraine, as it was at the beginning of the war. And no one will send the 57th in any case beyond the front line, because if something happens, you can’t get rid of shame, and our generals are the same as officials, hold on to the place with all their claws ...

[Repellent]

Quote: AwaZ

Air defense of Ukraine is not suppressed , on the contrary, it now began to work more efficiently

What kind of air defense You mean?

You have to answer for the market, my friend

[Awaz]

and you show me at least one case of the use of Russian aviation, well, let's say in Dnepropetrovsk, at least or for bombing on the bridges bordering Poland .. Well, what if the case had been in the last at least two months .. I know that the head in general's shoulder straps told you that everything Air defense in Ukraine ended on the second week of the war, but it was precisely at that time that ours stopped flying over the remnants of Ukraine .. A funny coincidence ..

[Repellent]

Quote: AwaZ

and you show me

Here's a vegetable for you.

Quote: AwaZ

The air defense of Ukraine has not been suppressed, on the contrary, it has now begun to work more efficiently

Again - what kind of air defense are we talking about? Before answering this question, I see no reason to talk with you on this topic.

[Awaz]

Air defense is one thing: air defense is the means to combat flying objects from the enemy. You tell me why Russian Aerospace Forces don’t fly over the remnants of Ukraine if they don’t have air defense .. What prevented Kiev from holding a parade of Russian Su-57s when all sorts of macrons and drags arrived over Kyiv?

[Repellent]

Quote: AwaZ

Air defense is one thing: air defense is a means to deal with flying objects from the enemy

Wrong answer. Like "starling" in Ukrainian, don't you remind me?

- unified air defense system of Ukraine no longer exists
- the remaining free-standing C300, Beeches and other trifles are essentially not air defense and are systematically knocked out
- the saturation of MANPADS (thanks to the "partners") greatly interferes with the actions of aviation. It is solved by sweeping the carriers of these MANPADS with artillery and other means. The task is not fast, but for sure.

Here are the answers to all your questions. What is not clear?

[Rusticolus]

MANPADS saturation

MANPADS, against su 34 at 14k. What kind of MANPADS is this, do not enlighten? There and Buk, with great difficulty, it’s not a fact that he will reach.

[Repellent]

Quote: Rusticolus

MANPADS, against su 34 at 14k. What kind of MANPADS is this, do not enlighten?

There are no such. Why did you ask this?

[Rusticolus]

That is, it turns out that this is all just blah blah nothing.

- a unified air defense system of Ukraine no longer exists
- the remaining free-standing C300, Beeches and other trifles are essentially not air defense and are systematically knocked out
- the saturation of MANPADS (thanks to the "partners") greatly interferes with the actions of aviation. It is solved by sweeping the carriers of these MANPADS with artillery and other means. The task is not fast, but for sure.

A counter question, well, what for then was there anything to write at all?

[Repellent]

Quote: Rusticolus

That is, it turns out this is all just blah blah nothing.

No. Refute any of the above.

In general, about air defense - this is for Bongo, not for me. But even I know the alphabet:
1. The country's unified air defense system is a complex system, consisting of interlinked detection, tracking and guidance stations and all sorts of missiles. Rockets are also different.
2. Ukraine has such a system no ... Refute.

Quote: Repellent

the remaining free-standing S300, Beeches and other trifles are essentially not air defense and are systematically knocked out

Refute.

Quote: Rusticolus

the saturation of MANPADS (thanks to the "partners") greatly interferes with the actions of aviation. It is solved by sweeping the carriers of these MANPADS with artillery and other means. The task is not fast, but for sure

Refute the obvious. Forward

[stirrer]

However, since there is air defense in Ukraine, it strongly fetters aviation and it does not fly beyond the front line, they only hit with calibers.

[Awaz]

you should watch less telly. Yes, on TV, if you believe, then all the air defense of the remnants of Ukraine were destroyed exactly by March 8. Supposedly already complete dominance in the air and not a single aircraft of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will take off. But the Ukrainian Air Force fly and in some places cause serious problems to ours. Crocodiles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine even fly to Russia, and the story of the turntables in Mariupol very clearly shows that the global air defense of Russia also does not exist. Focally it turns out to protect the sky and not without jambs. But Russian planes have not been flying far from the front line for a long time. And this is a fact and what prevents them, you do not want to admit and explain too. If there were no Caliber, all of Ukraine, with the exception of those territories where hostilities are taking place, would not be terrorized at all and the railway refinery and defense plants would continue to work. In principle, even now they are partially restored from those that were damaged. Even Calibers shoot down. Not all but quite cope with some. Considering that the west of Ukraine is almost not calibrated for some reason, I dare to assume that this is due to the fact that nothing flies, or an agreement. However, both versions are not too pretty..

[Terenin]

Quote: AwaZ

Yes, on TV, if you believe, then all the air defense of the remnants of Ukraine were destroyed exactly by March 8.

And, can you link to the official statement of the Ministry of Defense - about the complete destruction of Ukrainian air defense?

[Awaz]

Well, I called you on March 8 and look for the statements yourself in that time period from the head in general's shoulder straps. I remember that because I read his words. I think that even here reports from the RF Ministry of Defense are periodically published, and if you search, you can find it ..

[Terenin]

Quote: AwaZ

Well, I called you on March 8 and look for the statements yourself in that time period from the head in general's shoulder straps. I remember that because I read his words. I think that even here reports from the RF Ministry of Defense are periodically published, and if you search, you can find it ..

Avaz, unlike your head, Lieutenant General Konashenkov and other official representatives of the Russian Ministry of Defense never talked about the complete destruction of Ukrainian air defense.

[Repellent]

Quote: Terenin

Quote: AwaZ

Yes, on TV, if you believe, then all the air defense of the remnants of Ukraine were destroyed exactly by March 8.

And, can you link to the official statement of the Ministry of Defense - about the complete destruction of Ukrainian air defense?

There's no such thing. And never was.

[Repellent]

Quote: AwaZ

Awaz

Blood, sweat, sand and girlish tears (c).

The next time you write something, try to focus on the main thoughts. There is no need for me to discuss with the "Svarogs", since this never leads to anything sensible. Over

[Terenin]

Quote: Repellent

Discuss with "Svarogs"

Have they already completed a course of treatment after a contusion?

[Repellent]

Quote: Terenin

Quote: Repellent

Discuss with "Svarogs"

Have they already completed a course of treatment after a contusion?

Who passed? Svarog, or a course?

And, yes, "passed" - in the sense of "received", or "ended"?

[Terenin]

Quote: Repellent

Quote: Terenin

Quote: Repellent

Discuss with "Svarogs"

Have they already completed a course of treatment after a contusion?

Who passed? Svarog, or a course?

And, yes, "passed" - in the sense of "received", or "ended"?

I forgot when our 72nd Center for Information and Psychological Operations of the Ukrainian Army was bombed

[Repellent]

Quote: Terenin

I forgot when our 72nd Center for Information and Psychological Operations of the Ukrainian Army was bombed

Here is the article from 25.02:

 “So as not to be brainwashed”: the headquarters of the “troll factory” of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was liquidated

https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2022/02/25/14577799.shtml

However - where does the "course"? And "Svarog"? I do not understand

[Terenin]

Quote: Repellent

Quote: Terenin

I forgot when our 72nd Center for Information and Psychological Operations of the Ukrainian Army was bombed

Here is the article from 25.02:

 “So as not to be brainwashed”: the headquarters of the “troll factory” of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was liquidated

https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2022/02/25/14577799.shtml

However - where does the "course"? And "Svarog"? I do not understand

Think Roma, think... ... and write.

[Repellent]

Quote: Terenin

Think Roma, think...

I'm lazy. Courses, svarogs ... CIPSO ... well, all of them would be in the stump.

[Terenin]

Quote: Repellent

Quote: Terenin

Think Roma, think...

I'm lazy. Courses, svarogs ... CIPSO ... well, all of them would be in the stump.

Well done. You can rest for today.

[huntsman650]

S-300, Beeches, wasps, arrows, S-125-SAM, are part of the air defense)))

[Grits]

Quote: Repellent

What air defense are you referring to?

One that prevents our bombers from calmly dropping cast iron on fortified positions. Or did you not know that this does not happen?

[Cottodraton]

How can they not fly when the network is clogged with flights of rooks? Listen, Mr. cypsobot, you're not a censor here. Maybe calm down a bit?

[Storog dvornik]

You forgot to say about corruption in the Russian Federation, the rotten vertical of power and Putin's "palace" ...
And so everything is right, the manual of Lyosha Navalny lives and prospers ...
One problem tormented the person responsible for corruption in the Russian Federation, from the US State Department ...
Russian "Caliber" should have ended in March ...
In the yard the second half of June, they keep flying and flying ...
Where does the corrupt official Putin take them?...
Dont clear...
What a cunning corruption in the Russian Federation ...

[Alexander Siberia mother]

Raguli do not sleep all about su 57 to worry ...)))

[Charik]

Storyteller, that is, they use everything possible except for the Su57 in your opinion?

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Tusv

Fly and worship. this is normal for a hawk. And the fact that no one saw him, I would be wary.

So I'm talking about that. Where is the contradiction, Sense from him, sorry = 0. There is no enemy for him there, which means that the operation is crap. If he had ALWAYS filled up the turntable there, otherwise, they would write a beautiful report ... my congratulations.

[Rusticolus]

Draw conclusions

what to do here? Raptops without lenses that increase the EPR by 1000 times seem to be stupidly unable to fly. That's all the conclusions.

[Grits]

Quote: Tusv

Ours with 0.2 would not be seen anywhere. Drawing conclusions

Conclusion. Nothing to notice.

[Volkof]

that is, directs artillery and other aircraft at targets.

The Russian Army does not have such systems. Even UAVs do not issue target designation for the latest Coalition-SV self-propelled guns and Tornado MLRS directly to the guidance system. The system ESU TZ "Constellation-M" is not in the army , it is not used in hostilities, there is not even a concept for its creation. At the same time, everyone refers to it and talks about the possibility of using it. She can, but she isn't.
The same tale about the use of the Andromeda-D automated control system in the Airborne Forces! Window dressing and eyewash, and the army is fighting with the methods of the 2nd World War with scouts on the front and walkie-talkies ....
Let's remember the "Warrior" and "Sagittarius"! Where do they send information? THERE !!! And where are they? In ... there .... None of the videos are there ?!

[stankow]

Without "scouts on the front" there is simply no artillery. Optical reconnaissance of targets is the main one. The UAV helps a little, but the weather doesn't. And not even with a walkie-talkie, the phone fails. And then the radio is jammed or even worse - it is detected.

[Vitaly.17]

Quote: Volkof

None of the videos?

The indicator is probably "advertising is our everything", even if the systems are secret, and even more so for their combat use. Although the kit with the disassembly of the captured "Sagittarius" is even available on Ukrainian resources.
Therefore, it is extremely doubtful that ESU TK and other automated control systems are not used now. Even in the DMB it is said about the Su-57 - "you see a gopher (57), but he is." Probably they will say the same about ACS and ESU TZ at a forum or an exhibition.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote from: neworange88

Destroys air defense and transmits data to other means of destruction, that is, directs artillery and other aircraft at targets.

Hope you don't freak out. He can determine his radiation exposure from radars, but all radars are limited. Pointing it at radars is good, but .... the motherland is waiting for another ... Stop shelling its territory, or at least Donbass ..
Sorry. Just the drums of war I greet (if there is no other way ), but crap drums, why. We flew, smoked, God help us. But from the beginning, a report of who was buried and to what depth, well, and then champagne ...

[Awaz]

And I wonder how many production Su 57 aircraft are in service? I don’t think that there are more than 4 of them, and then two were received from the factory somewhere the other day, in any case, the topic slipped somewhere in the news. Either there were 4 of them before, or there were four after replenishment .. Yes, no one sent them anywhere, like many systems that only on the Zvezda TV channel talk about, but in the army no one heard anything about it ...

[Volkof]

But Borisov, in general, does not know what the Su-57 is for and how to use it. In the Russian Armed Forces there is no concept of modern warfare and combat, and there is no concept of using the Su-57, including. On this forum, no one knows what the 5th generation aircraft is for!

[Charik]

Only some smart guy with supposedly Russian surnames in English, knows everything, understands and does

[Alexander Vorontsov]

As practice shows, the Sumerians are very fond of writing nicknames in Latin letters.

[Alexander Siberia mother]

Another Mykola from a farm near Dikanka does not sleep, he thinks about Su 57 ....

[nnm]

. This applies not only to the fighters themselves, but also to the weapons placed inside their fuselages.

Come on!!! And we thought that the contours of their fuselages were the most important thing !!

[Skipper]

They act correctly. It is necessary to develop combat practice and slowly ... eliminate minor shortcomings. Combat experience and algorithm in training manuals to write for other pilots of future serial units. In the photo Su-57 (onboard 053) with Okhotnik UAV coloring

[u-345]

Testing new equipment in real combat conditions is the most important stage in checking its professional suitability.
Speaking of Armata. Something is not heard. Not ready for the exam yet?

[Normann]

Rather, for now.) From the side of the fleet, a bunch of rooks (an extremely serious force) will attack with something (((and if anything - there is air defense on ... a barge))

[Grits]

Quote: u-345

Speaking of Armata. Something is not heard. Not ready for the exam yet?

In addition to the T-14 MBT, the T-15 TBMP, the Kurganets-25 infantry fighting vehicle, the Boomerang armored personnel carrier / infantry fighting vehicle, and the Kaolitsia self-propelled guns are not yet ready for the exam. Although they had been preparing for the exam for 10 years already. It would be time to finish school already. Apparently doubles.

[Leshak]

It remains to wait for the use of armata. Dill back in 2014 announced their destruction, but they still have not come to the war.

[nnm]

And to whom is this a minus? Us or steal?

[Alexander Vorontsov]

With all due respect, it is not advisable to use Armata there. The reputational losses will be too great, even if the "paint is scratched" on it. In the conditions of "Parisanism" there is not much sense from the armata.

But the fact that ours could not roll out Boomerangs ... where the main innovation is more powerful armor compared to the BTR-82, this is definitely a minus.

[nnm]

And why then, in general, is it needed if it doesn’t save the lives of the guys .. and don’t care if its paint is scratched there or not

[AdAstra]

Well, on the other hand, from the T-62 and even "m" It will only be, and even very much so.

[Bumblebee_3]

Leshak, how can T-14s be used? Therefore, now they are not visible on the NWO. Of course it's a win!

[Leshak]

Quote: Bumblebee_3

Leshak, how can T-14s be used?

Like a submarine... they can't, like an air defense system... they can't, like an attack aircraft... they can't, ahhh - I guessed - how a tank can be used!

[Bumblebee_3]

Leshak, you yourself said that according to the statements of the dill, all T-14s have already been destroyed! I have heard such statements too. Therefore, these tanks cannot be in the NWO. This is a clear win.

[PSih2097]

Quote: Leshak

It remains to wait for the use of armata. Dill back in 2014 announced their destruction, but they still have not come to the war.

God forbid, the "Terminator" will run in both the car itself and the tactics of its use

[Understanding]

Quote: Tusv

Columns of smoke and mushrooms after explosions suit me

I would be satisfied with the old Su-25 flying over the Lviv region and, in the absence of air defense, hunting for the last convoys with fuel and ammunition.

[opuonmed]

this one who said that they were late when drones were needed?

[Architect]

And it seems to me that combat habitable aircraft are a thing of the past.
And to develop something like su57 is to extract money from another promising one to the detriment of the interests of the army.
Planes and helicopters ... EVERYTHING.
The most widespread type of pitch-up shooting.
Su 57, although beautiful, is not needed. Enough previous models.
And you need a UAV.

[opuonmed]

when the reb is working and satellites are destroyed, etc., etc., the drone becomes trash! and when both this and that is in the complex, then that's the norm!

[dauria]

And it seems to me that combat habitable aircraft are a thing of the past.

They leave and leave. As soon as the forecast of one sensible scientist from the USA comes true. That five years ago predicted by 2030 the human brain at a price of 300 bucks weighing
a couple of kilos and eating 100 watts. In the meantime, even the brains and vision of the crows have not mastered.

[Rusticolus]

And you need a UAV

UAV, this is only before the enemy starts using manned aircraft. Naturally, this is not about any mosquito UAVs with a pinch of plastids, but about something serious. Estimate yourself if you launch 20 raptors and a link su 35 towards. Who will eventually return to their airfield?

[vvnab]

SU-35s will return (not the fact that all of them), but none of the Raptors operators will even leave their airfield! )

[Rusticolus]

And for this reason, "Katz offers to surrender" and not oppose the UAV at all?

[Knell wardenheart]

As soon as something like "Armata" or "Su-57" often goes to the front, immediately in the west they will plan an operation to discredit at least, to destroy and capture fragments as a maximum. If these guys can't catch our torpedoes and the remains of rockets, rest easy, they will itch here too. This is quite in their logic, because they try to hide their latest junk as much as possible from us and our ability to study them. So you have to be careful here..

[Cottodraton]

Well, so carefully concealed and secret, according to US representatives, the "javelin" is also now thoughtfully studied by our specialists, together with NLaw and other kamikaze drones, which were collected in all kinds of packs as trophies ... as for the "dagger", then I doubt that when struck at great speed, something identifiable remained there. Although, the desire of potential opponents to study the crash site is understandable. They rather want to see the effectiveness of the application, the power of destruction, and it is possible to study ballistics by the angle of defeat ... There is hardly anything more to be learned there.

[Knell wardenheart]

I think that the Americans were fine with the possibility of losing Jawas and individual samples of tactical-level drones. Simply because of the specifics and volumes of this type of weapon. You can’t hide an awl in a bag, especially in such volumes of supplies and on such a wide front. Now, as I understand it, they are trying to keep their aircraft coverage, strategic UAVs, "friend or foe" systems, the latest models of thermal imaging and NV equipment, satellite guidance or adjustment devices (they were dismantled from "777" when they were delivered to Ukraine). That is, everything from which our military-industrial complex can draw a lot of useful things in the complex, in our most stagnant areas. Of course, they had to sacrifice something, but so far this is mostly bullshit.
As for the "Dagger", I myself doubt that from an object with such kinetic energy, in principle, something can remain studied after the impact. But from the "Caliber" -quite. It seems that they even showed footage of some kind of circuits from "Caliber", they say, evidence that we use Western microelectronics in production. Well, this is quite acceptable, since, unlike the "Kinzhal", the "Caliber" is still much slower, it is potentially shot down if they are waiting for him, but if so, then taking into account the low flight speed and low altitude - I admit that it is possible there something to study after an "unsuccessful" landing. According to the "Dagger", the maximum that they can find out is the composition of the accelerator filling (there are no need for large quantities, analytical chemistry and its precise tools truly work wonders now), they can find out the characteristics (approximate) of a heat-shielding coating, maybe a nanostructure (some part of the fragments will undergo less deformation), according to which it will be possible to roughly estimate the direction of the technology for manufacturing such coatings or parts.
That is, at least they learn the materials and the direction of manufacturing technologies - this is already a lot in fact.

[Stepan S]

"R-77 class rocket, found in the forests of Polissya, photo - Main Directorate of the DSNS in the Zhytomyr region"
This is what the ukrovoiny found in their forest, dug up and study with a magnifying glass.

[Rusticolus]

That's what the Ukrainian soldiers found in their forest,

and the wire to the ass of the cyborg goes for recharging? Again, all the batteries are dead. Well, always Monday-born with batteries are unlucky

[iouris]

The latest fighters... they're invisible. Will they be able to bomb the Avdeevsky fortified area?

[Recon]

It's not about whether they can or not. They can. All means are available for this. There is no political will. Our bosses in the Kremlin are still hoping to reach an agreement with the West.

[Genry]

Quote: Recon

They can. All means are available for this.

How are you going to fight against gophers. The burrow system allows you to quickly hide.

Quote: Recon

Our bosses in the Kremlin are still hoping to reach an agreement with the West.

Who is trying? What actions?
Politically already sent and continue to send and put daily. The dollar and the euro are shaking to the fullest (although the Central Bank is in the way). Only in economic relations is softer ...

[iouris]

"Will by will, if there is too much strength ..."
Thirty years of agreement. All this time the population lived in the colonial country. Finally, the "tops" "saw the light". It happened right at the PEF. But even in the past, and this year on the eve of "enlightenment" they sent gold and billions to the colonialists. And no one will be responsible for it. And now resources go for "wrappers", and not for technologies and equipment "in kind". Yes, and the export of grain from Ukraine took on an increased obligation to promote. And the population of Ukraine wants to be colonizers, not to be exploited.

[Lena Petrova]

Quote: AwaZ

do not strongly believe Borisov and all officials

Borisov said, but in the General Staff, like, they don’t know if this is true or not? So what?

[Carlos Hall]

In this way, you will get combat experience with a device that has already participated in the Syrian scenario.

[sifgame]

Until they show footage with juice as this wunderwaffe vomits and thrashes, all these are words that do not affect anything. Even if they fly there. DO NOT know how to do our advertising. Yes, what kind of advertising is there, just submit the information that is there.

[GNM]

Su-shki of all modifications were brought to mind for a long time, but they are one of the best in their classes.
Su-57 is no exception

[lambert]

[[quote = Volkof] [quote] that is, directs artillery and other aircraft at targets. [/ quote]
The Russian Army does not have such systems. [/quote]

Yes, it has been tested in Syria and is used by the relevant authorities. There is even one Hero of the Russian Federation, who, using an advanced aircraft controller, caused fire on himself. People are being trained and there is equipment for operational-tactical and army aviation.

Even UAVs do not issue target designation for the latest Coalition-SV self-propelled guns and Tornado MLRS directly to the guidance system. The system ESU TZ "Constellation-M" is not in the army , it is not used in hostilities, there is not even a concept for its creation. At the same time, everyone refers to it and talks about the possibility of using it. She can, but she isn't.
The same tale about the use of the Andromeda-D automated control system in the Airborne Forces! Window dressing and eyewash, and the army is fighting with the methods of the 2nd World War with scouts on the front and walkie-talkies ....
Let's remember the "Warrior" and "Sagittarius"! Where do they send information? THERE !!! And where are they? In ... there .... Not a single video has ?! [/ Quote]
According to Ratnik, this is combat equipment, which includes both the reconnaissance, control and communications subsystem Sagittarius and its modifications. So Ratnik does not convey anything to anyone.

[Sexton]

So Ratnik does not convey anything to anyone.

At least read the WIKI before writing nonsense ...

[stankow]

The UAV cannot transmit data directly to the ACS and, in general, to the OP. It doesn't matter if the headlight sends commands to the gas pedal. Will you drive such a car?

[ada]

Yes, what are you, he gives them weather in layers, plans to hit targets and sets tasks, probably swears with bad words when they don’t listen to him
But, at the expense of cars ... when you approach the roadway, which seems to be true - they drive exactly like these, and the "headlight" is constantly late for something

[Sexton]

The UAV cannot transmit data directly to the ACS and, in general, to the OP.

Yes, in a backward army with such backward fighters it cannot! But for some reason, Russia is urgently deploying the production of new UAVs "Orlan-30", "Forpost-R", which not only can transmit data to the ACS guidance system in real time, but also highlight the target with a laser designator and ensure the defeat of the first projectile with beam correction! And they are urgently changing the outdated two-block "Krasnopol" to the latest modernized monoblock "Krasnopol-M2"! The war forces, and before that, all sorts of Borisovs did nothing for 30 years ....

[neworange88]

.and before that, all sorts of Borisovs did nothing for 30 years ....

Justify this phrase. Give specific examples that no one did anything. Or just to blurt out. The same Krasnopol-M2 would not have appeared on its own if no one had done anything as you said.

[Losyara]

Guys, do something with Avdiivka. After all, Donetsk civilians are really genocide! How many people can endure this horror?

[stirrer]

Who needs this Donetsk civilian, if they don’t like it, let them leave Donetsk, or are you one of those naive ones who thinks that Putin started all this to protect the inhabitants of Donbass, before whom he was eight years old, and here he was so worried?

It is not advisable to storm the Ukrainian fortified areas, from where they hit the residential areas of Donetsk, as this can lead to heavy casualties on the part of the attacking forces - for this reason, systematic work is being carried out to enter the rear. This was stated by Russian President Vladimir Putin at the plenary session of the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum.

[ada]

Yes, the evacuation campaign was "failed".

[Stepan S]

He claims that the latest Russian aircraft destroyed Ukrainian air defense systems.

This is the number of times during the NVO that the enemy's air defense is destroyed, and the planes, no matter how they did not fly over the territory of Ukraine, do not fly. Air defense of Ukraine - resurrects like a Phoenix bird?

[agoran]

Well, the Jewish F-35s do not fly over the territory of Syria either.
There is no point in entering the zone of possible air defense if it is possible to destroy enemy air defense radars at long distances.

[stirrer]

It is on Russian television that they say that Jewish planes do not fly over Syria, and when they name the places where they were hit, questions immediately arise, what kind of miracle is the bombs and rockets of the Jews that can hit so far and so precisely without entering the airspace Syria.

[ada]

Quote: Stepan S

Air defense of Ukraine - resurrects like a Phoenix bird?

I suppose everything is much simpler and in accordance with the previous planning for the use of troops. If there is time in the conditions of advance preparation of areas of destination and routes of advancement for forces and means of troops (say, I assume) covering the eastern border in two echelons, which initially for the most part in the first echelon included the UHF of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (mainly combat and combat support) and less in the second, with the subsequent strengthening of either the NATO military units or the forces of the national armed forces of the countries participating in the bloc in a private manner, science requires the organization of comprehensive support for the deployment of these troops in the shortest possible time. To this end, along the routes and in the regions, in addition to their engineering equipment, the accumulation of stocks of consumables (mainly fuel and lubricants and ammunition), the tracing of communication lines and energy supply, the implementation of sanitary and biological security measures, the strengthening of control of the state border and restrictions on the movement of the local population and transport. At the same time, part of the AME and ZMS or forces and means (including air defense) allocated to cover the advancement and deployment of troops can be secretly deployed in these areas (at positions), along routes or in close proximity to them.
Based on the fact that such a planning procedure was maintained until approximately 2020 (until the moment when it became clear that these plans were not feasible), it is likely that a sufficiently large number of air defense systems were secretly deployed (accumulated) precisely in these areas and it is not a fact that the top political leadership of this country was aware of the composition of these forces and means and their locations. I suppose that a significant part of the air defense systems was transferred from the Western border regions to the Central, Eastern and Southern. Similar air defense systems supplied from abroad were most likely delivered in advance. A certain Arestovich spoke about the presence in the Armed Forces of Ukraine of 50 air defense divisions shortly before the SVO, but most likely, only a limited circle of people in the military leadership knows the exact number and composition and they put them into action in stages.
Therefore, I believe that it is impossible to open the entire air defense-missile defense scheme in such a territory in a short time. In addition, it is more than likely that intelligence will act to send misinformation to us. Faulty and damaged air defense systems can be restored by industrial enterprises and the forces of the Defense Ministry. Miracles don't happen.

[Veter5757]

The fighters are the latest, the technical superiority is undeniable, and the Ukrainians have been hitting Donetsk with impunity for a week now, making the city a nightmare.
Today, the work of water carriers was disrupted. Water supply in the city has been on schedule since the beginning of the NWO, now there is almost no water in the pipes. Delivered by tank trucks. Today, the delivery of water was disrupted by shelling.

[agoran]

According to Donetsk, this is to the command of the DPR.
Here is Dnepropetrovsk:

[Rusticolus]

According to Donetsk, this is to the command of the DPR.
Here is Dnepropetrovsk

that is, the lives of the Donetsk people are the business of the Donetsk people themselves. And the command of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation stands guard over the pocket of the oil oligarchs. It's more important to them!

[Swiffer25]

Great plane, good luck to the pilots

[riwas]

Deputy Prime Minister Borisov: The Russian military is using the latest Su-57 fighters in Ukraine

In Ukraine, the Su-57 is mainly used to destroy Ukrainian air defense, stealth technology to help them.

[Baikal57]

The "first stage" is quite suitable for the next 5 years of the war with Kuev, and then we will move on to the "second stage" to counteract with a thousand Lightings in NATO.

[iouris]

Apply. What about combat effectiveness?

[mlad]

Let's summarize. Aviation does not fly because reconnaissance is not working well and all anti-aircraft installations have not been destroyed. Aircraft do not have powerful electronic warfare systems that would save them from air defense missiles (we do not know how effective the advertised khibiny are), and Ukraine has outdated air defense systems. Weak optoelectronic systems that do not allow you to determine targets from a great height and you have to descend under the strikes of MANPADS. All this makes Russian aviation work from afar, and as many as eyewitnesses of strikes write to me, they hit empty cars, wastelands and even residential buildings. We don’t know if the SU 57 has modern systems, information about the development of a suspended container for optoelectronic reconnaissance flickered and silence.

[lambert]

Quote: Sexton

So Ratnik does not convey anything to anyone.

At least read the WIKI before writing nonsense ...

Go to the TSNIITOCHMASH website and read about the Ratnik subsystems. And then look at the State Defense Order. Find a lot of interesting things. And I don’t need to read Wikipedia, without it I know enough about the Ratnik combat equipment and the subsystems included in it.

[Arkady007]

Again bravura speeches for non-singular four copies, isn't it too early?

[Glagol1]

Military trials. In real conditions. Materials for study will be added!!!

[George Miloslavsky]

Well, dill is understandable, stupid as corks, the United States tested biological weapons on them, and their own firearms, well, they don’t really understand that we are working out new methods of warfare, testing our weapons, and that after this operation, we will have an even better army and fleet. Only the army that is fighting is strong, Afghan, Chechnya, Ossetia, Ukraine. Geyropa must understand that the northern fur animal is attacking them!