Lucrezia Borgia. The famous daughter of the "Pharmacist of Satan"

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Lucrezia Borgia. The famous daughter of the "Pharmacist of Satan"
Lucrezia next to her father, Rodrigo di Borgia, frame from the series "Borgia" (Hungary, Ireland, Canada, 2011-2013)

В previous article we got to know Rodrigo Di Borgia (Borja, Borgia) a little, a Spaniard, nephew of Pope Calixtus III, who became a cardinal at the age of 25. Today we will talk about his famous daughter - Lucrezia. Throughout her life she held the titles of Countess of Pesaro, Duchess of Bisceglie and Duchess Consort of Ferrara.

Lucrezia Borgia was born on April 18, 1480. The girl was brought up by her father's cousin, the Spaniard Adriana de Mila. In her house, Lucretia received a good education, she was fluent in three languages ​​- Italian, Catalan and French, knew Latin, wrote poetry, and danced well.



В history she was destined to enter with a very unflattering reputation as an unscrupulous, dissolute poisoner, mistress of many men, including her father and brothers. The Dominican Savonarola, a religious fanatic who wanted to turn the whole world into one big monastery (of which he himself was to become the abbot) and who almost destroyed his native Florence, was merciless towards Lucrezia and did not choose diplomatic expressions:

“Poisoner and ruthless killer! An incestress, an adulteress, a fiend of hell and a spawn of a rattlesnake, the daughter of a jackal and a hyena!


Savonarola in the series "Borgia" (Hungary, Ireland, Canada, 2011-2013)

The imagination readily draws some gothic fatal beauty in the style of Maleficent from a modern Hollywood film, or the English Queen Eleanor of Aquitaine on the canvas of Edward Coley Burne-Jones. "Fair Rosamund and Queen Eleanor":


This is an illustration of a gloomy legend about the young favorite of Henry II Plantagenet: fearing the revenge of his wife, the famous but already aged Eleanor of Aquitaine, the king built a labyrinth around Rosamund's castle, which could only be passed with the help of a silver thread. But Eleanor found this thread and entered the castle. She offered her opponent to choose what to die from - from a dagger or from poison. Rosamund chose poison (in fact, Henry fell out of love with her and found another favorite, after which Rosamund went to the monastery - and in this case, lovers of Gothic "horror stories" slandered an innocent woman).

But let's get back to Lucrezia Borgia and try to figure out what this terrible woman actually looked like? Let's look at one of the possible images of Lucretia. With a high degree of probability, it is assumed that it is she who is represented in the image of St. Catherine, leading a dispute with the Roman emperor Maximinus on the fresco by Pinturicchio in the Vatican apartments of Borgia:


This is a fragment of the same fresco with the alleged image of Lucretia:


For centuries, this fragile girl was credited with killing the enemies of Pope Alexander Borgia: allegedly it was she who, most often serving goblets of wine to guests, imperceptibly added a drop of poison from the famous ring to it.

There are suggestions that her brother Cesare is also depicted on the same fresco - in the image of the emperor sitting on the throne.

And on another fragment of the fresco we see two children:


Here they are:


It is believed that Lucrezia's younger brother Gioffre and his wife Sancha of Aragon, granddaughter of King Fernando I of Naples, served as models for Pinturicchio.

The image of St. Catherine on the fresco by Pinturicchio is consistent with the surviving memories of contemporaries about the heroine of our article. Here is one of them, which describes the appearance of 20-year-old Lucrezia Borgia:

“She is of average height, well built. The face is oblong, the nose is regular, the hair is golden, the eyes are of an indefinite color. A fairly large mouth, snow-white teeth, a beautiful slender neck, a magnificent bust. Always cheerful and smiling."

The ambassador of Ferrara in 1500 described the bride of the eldest son of the ruler of this city, who had already been married twice and gave birth twice (for the first time - it is not clear from whom):

“Madonna Lucrezia is extremely intelligent and beautiful, and also exceptionally kind. She is modest, she has a tender heart and fine manners. Moreover, she is a true God-fearing Christian... She is very beautiful, but her charming manner is even more striking. In short, her character is such that it is impossible to detect even a trace of sinfulness in her.

Ferrara chronicler Bernardino Zambotti writes about Lucretia:

“She has an unusually beautiful face, lively, laughing eyes, excellent posture, besides she is intelligent, pious, wise, cheerful, pleasant and friendly in manner.”

He also claims:

"People liked her."

The court lady Theodora in one of her letters says:

"Lucretia is supremely kind and very tolerant of those who serve her."

This is another alleged portrait of Lucrezia Borgia - in the form of the goddess Flora. Its authorship is attributed to Bartolomeo Veneto:


Let's talk about the rather difficult, and sometimes very tragic fate of this woman, who was destined to die after childbirth at the age of 39.

The first marriage of Lucrezia Borgia


In 1493, 13-year-old Lucrezia was married to Giovanni Sforza, an illegitimate cousin of the ruler of Milan, Lodovico Sforza. Her husband was 26 years old. In 1497, at the initiative of Father Lucretia, this marriage was annulled under the pretext of the male insolvency of the spouse. Outraged, Giovanni was offered to refute this accusation by having sexual intercourse with his wife in front of witnesses, which he preferred to refuse. Lucrezia, who swore on the gospel that she was a virgin, was pregnant at that time (but not by her husband). It was the disgraced Giovanni Sforza who began to spread rumors about the relationship of his ex-wife with his father and brothers (all three - both older and younger).

By the way, apparently, in Italy of those years, incest was not a very rare occurrence. Moreover, such relationships, it seems, were not particularly shy. Gianpaolo Baglioni, who ruled Perugia just during the pontificate of Alexander Borgia, can be cited as an example: he calmly received ambassadors, lying in bed with his sister. That is why many believed in the rumors about Lucretia's connection with relatives: if others can, why can't she?

By the way, looking back, we will see four rulers of the Hellenistic world who had the official nickname Philadelphus - “loving sister” (the first of them is Ptolemy II, the son of the famous comrade-in-arms of Alexander the Great, on whose behalf the story is being told in the Hollywood film "Alexander"). However, Philadelphia can safely be called all the Macedonian rulers of Egypt, who adopted the ancient tradition of their kingdom, according to which the sons of the ruling monarch married exclusively their own sisters. Later, the name Philadelphus became quite common, for example, the Christian holy martyr who was killed in 251 AD bore it. e. Well, a big hello to the American "City of Brotherly Love" - ​​Philadelphia.

But back to Lucrezia Borgia, who in the spring of 1498 gave birth to a boy named Giovanni. He later became Duke of Nepi and Prince of Camerino. Who exactly was his father is still unknown, different versions have been put forward, among other candidates - her father Rodrigo di Borgi (not yet Pope Alexander VI) and brother Cesare.

This boy was declared the brother of Lucrezia. Some consider him the son of Rodrigo Borgia from an unknown woman (allegedly this boy replaced the deceased first-born Lucrezia).

The second marriage of Lucrezia Borgia


Meanwhile, the young mother Lucrezia was already married on June 21, 1498 to the illegitimate son of King Alfonso II of Naples. This young man, who was a year younger than his wife, was also called Alfonso (Aragonese). He bore the titles of Duke of Bisceglie and Prince of Salerno. This marriage had a chance of being successful: the spouses seemed to love each other, and Lucrezia personally looked after her husband for a whole month, who was wounded in Rome on July 15, 1500. Alfonso was nevertheless finished off - on August 18 of the same year he was strangled in his own bed. Contemporaries believed that Cesare Borgia was behind both assassination attempts, who wanted to marry his sister to the eldest son of the (already legitimate) Duke of Ferrara. From Alfonso, Lucrezia gave birth to a son, Rodrigo, who died at the age of 13.

Duchess of Ferrara


So, the third and last spouse of Lucrezia Borgia was Alfonso d'Este, Crown Prince of Ferrara. At the beginning of the article, we wrote about the impression that Lucretia Borgia made then on everyone in Ferrara. If she had an intimate relationship with her father and brother Cesare (which many now doubt), since that time they have apparently been interrupted.

It is curious that at one time Lucretia was credited with a relationship with the husband of Alphonse Isabella's sister, Francesco Gonzaga, Marquis of Mantua.

Several pregnancies of Lucretia in this marriage ended in miscarriages and the birth of a dead child. Finally, in 1508, she gave birth to a healthy boy, who received the name Ercole and subsequently inherited the Duchy of Ferrara.


Gian Antonio da Foligno. Lucretia with her son Ercole receives the blessing of Saint Maurelius, patron of Ferrara. 1512

Her other son, Ippolito, became a cardinal and archbishop of Milan. In this marriage, another boy and three girls were also born. One of her daughters, also named Lucretia, became the great-grandmother of the Duke Henri de Guise, known to many from the novels of A. Dumas, the head of the Catholic League and one of the organizers of the Bartholomew night.

The administrative talents of Lucrezia Borgia


It should be said that Lucretia turned out to be a fairly capable administrator. Back in 1499, being pregnant, she was appointed ruler of Spoleto by her father for several months, having managed during this time to reconcile its citizens with the inhabitants of the neighboring city of Terni. In addition, on her orders, horse guards were organized to protect internal order. Then, between the second and third marriages, she worked in the papal office, kept official correspondence and, in the absence of her father, even answered letters addressed to him (which, by the way, greatly outraged all the cardinals).

In Ferrara, during the frequent departures of her husband, she sometimes remained in fact the ruler of the state for several months, performing her duties extremely conscientiously and scrupulously.

Among her lovers in Ferrara are the famous poet Petro Bembo of those years and even the famous “knight without fear and reproach” - Pierre Terraille de Bayard.

During this period of her life, Lucrezia Borgia had a reputation as a patron of artists and poets. Lodovico Ariosto dedicated laudatory lines to her in Canto XIII of the famous poem "Furious Roland":

Lucrezia of the Borgia family,
Whose beauty, virtue, honor and happiness
Grow up day by day
Like a young shoot in fertile soil.
Tin before silver, copper before gold,
Field before the rose poppy,
Pale willow before green laurel,
Before a priceless gem, a dyed rhinestone -
This will be any
Before the one whom I praise before birth
For a great mind, for the only beauty
And for all the meritorious excellence.

At the same time, Lucrezia founded a convent in Ferrara, in which one of her daughters later became abbess, and a charitable organization to help the poor.

This is another alleged portrait of Lucrezia Borgia, attributed to Dosso Dossi:


Here she must be about 39 years old, that is, it was written shortly before her death.

And this is a portrait of her husband by the same artist:


Alfonso d'Este, portrait by Dosso Dossi

They say that in her duchy, Lucrezia strictly followed the fulfillment of men's promises to marry girls.

Lucrezia knew a lot about luxury, her red velvet robe was lined with ermine fur and adorned with 84 rubies, 29 diamonds and 115 pearls. In the inventory of her property, shortly before her death, she counted 3770 jewelry. But at the end of her life, under luxurious dresses, Lucretia began to wear a redeeming sackcloth. According to another legend, amaranths in the flower garden arranged in front of the ducal palace were planted in memory of the men who were once killed by Lucretia (amaranth was considered a symbol of immortality). Dying, she asked to continue caring for these flowers (and why shouldn’t she remember before her death about her favorite flowers, which she just planted with her own hands, without any ulterior motive?).

Incest rumors


Apparently, it is impossible to do without trying to answer the question: when did Lucrezia Borgia, married at the age of 13 and constantly pregnant, manage to be the mistress of her father and brothers? And why did such rumors even appear? Rumors of incest, as we remember, began to dissolve the first husband of Lucretia - Giovanni Sforza, offended by the fact that he was declared impotent, unable to deprive a young and very beautiful girl of innocence. The humiliated Giovanni used them against the Borgia weapon - slander. The accusations fell on fertile ground: rumors about Lucretia's vicious relationships with her father and brothers willingly and with great joy began to spread all the enemies of this influential clan. There is, of course, no evidence of incest in the Borgia family. Morals in the papal palace, of course, were free. Johann Burkard, master of ceremonies of the Roman Curia, describes a party in the Vatican hosted by Cesare Borgia in 1501 (it went down in history as the "chestnut banquet"):

“Lucrezia, the pope and the guests threw roasted chestnuts, and the harlots picked them up, running completely naked, crawling, laughing and falling. The more dexterous received silk fabrics and jewels as a reward from his Holiness. Finally, the Pope gave the sign to the contest, and an unimaginable revelry began. It is completely impossible to describe it: the guests did whatever they pleased with the women. Lucrezia was sitting with the pope on a high stage, holding in her hand a prize intended for the most ardent and tireless lover.

It's just some humorous porn show for a bored pope. And Lucrezia looks like a specially invited guest of honor, who is given the role of a host and sports judge in the popular Vatican show "Merry Starts". Papa Alexander does not participate in the competition, which is understandable: he is already 70 years old, at this age any “sex machine” will “slow down”. What kind of love games with Lucrezia are there, even if such a spectacle arouses only “platonic” interest in him?

Cesare Borgia, who chose as his motto the words of Caligula “Aut Caesar, aut nihil” (“To be Caesar or nobody”) and “held peace and war in his hands”, “was in a hurry to live” and hardly had time for a relationship with Lucrezia. Yes, and a lack of other women - for every taste, as you already understood, he never had.


Gaetano Previati, Cesare Borgia in Capua, 1880

It is completely incomprehensible why, in such circumstances, he also has a younger sister?

Death of the last of the Borgias


Lucrezia Borgia died of puerperal fever, an infectious complication after a difficult birth. Now this disease is known as postpartum sepsis. It happened in 1519, at the time of her death she was 39 years old. Shortly before her death, she was tonsured a nun of the Franciscan fraternity. The death of Lucrezia became known throughout Italy, and the Neapolitan poet Sannazaro wrote the evil epigram-epitaph that went down in history:

“Lucretia supposedly rests here, but in reality Thais,
Alexandru is both a daughter, and a daughter-in-law, and a wife.”

One often has to read that these lines are carved on the tombstone of Lucretia, which, of course, is not true.


Grave of Duke Alfonso d'Este and Lucrezia Borgia

Lucrezia Borgia is the heroine of many books (among the authors Victor Hugo, Prosper Mérimée, Alexandre Dumas and Mario Puzo), films, TV series, and operas by Gaetano Donizetti.

The memory of Lucrezia in modern Ferrara


Currently, Ferrara annually celebrates on February 5 a holiday dedicated to Lucrezia Borgia, which many consider to be unfairly slandered. In October 2002, an exhibition was even organized in Rome, the organizers of which declared their desire to rehabilitate Lucrezia, who, in their opinion, did not poison anyone and, “probably did not have sexual contact with her father, Pope Alexander VI».

«We hope to take the poison out of Lucretia”, Gaetano Sateriale, Mayor of Ferrara, said at a press conference at the time.

The authoritative Italian medievalist Learco Andalo stated:

“The purpose of the exhibition is to restore the truth. The Borgias have been the victim of misrepresentations based on malicious rumors. Lucretia did not poison a single person. She herself fell victim to the pen of historians.

In the next article, we will talk about Lucrezia's brother, Cesare Borgia.
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  1. +13
    5 June 2022 05: 29
    I don’t remember that somewhere it was proved that Lucrezia herself or at the request of Alexander VI poisoned someone.
    I may be wrong. In works of art - in bulk.
    Of the known poisons of the Middle Ages, these are:
    1. Cantarella - most likely it is cantharidin - a substance secreted by Spanish fly and other insects. LD50 80 mg/kg orally. That is, for a person 75 kg of weight is 60 grams, and the fatal one, respectively, is 120 grams.
    2. Arsenic 1,4 mg/kg or 5-17 grams for humans (fatal).
    And this is in its purest form. Those. you won’t sleep out of a ring at dinner. We need preliminary preparation and, of course, accomplices, most likely cooks.
    Then, the expression came into circulation - the church is disgusted with blood. And it was perceived as true in the last instance.
    Pope Alexander VI, of course, promoted his relatives to power structures - quite naturally, but what is different now? Over in Canada, Trudeau's father is the prime minister and the prime minister's son, something is not heard that they have been poisoning someone so far. On the contrary, everything is very democratic. True, they write that the son is stupid, so nature rests on children.
    Alexander VI was a pragmatic politician and an effective manager (in the good sense of the word).
    And personal life, so that's why it's personal! The customs of that time, of course, are different from modern ones. laughing
    One word - "Oh tempora o mores!"
    PS As before, very good illustrations for the article.
    1. VLR
      +8
      5 June 2022 06: 31
      Yes, I wrote about cantarella (cantharidin) and arsenic in a previous article. Poisoning with the help of the famous ring or key can be considered a legend and a "black PR" of the enemies of this family.
      1. +2
        5 June 2022 14: 33
        "with the help of the famous ring", Valery, and such rings really existed. Somewhere I read read a description of such a ring. Not necessarily Curbs, but something like that existed
    2. 0
      8 June 2022 17: 21
      So it turns out that in the series the actress was picked up VERY well. wink
  2. +6
    5 June 2022 05: 35
    Lucrezia's son built the Villa d'Este, whose fountains and layout served as a model for the later Versailles and Peterhof.
    And there is also a funny Borgia comic in 4 parts. feel
    1. +11
      5 June 2022 05: 52
      The son of Lucrezia built the Villa d'Este,

      I can’t post all the “fabulous 100 fountains”, but beautifully ... smile





      1. +7
        5 June 2022 06: 19
        And I was there, drinking honey, drinking beer .. Italy is a country of stunning beauty
  3. +1
    5 June 2022 05: 44
    1493 married at the age of 13. She gave birth in 1489. In 1498, the young mother again down the aisle.
    1. VLR
      +5
      5 June 2022 06: 14
      Yes, a typo, in March 1498 she gave birth, in July of the same 1498 she was married for the second time (two numbers are rearranged in places), we will try to correct it.
      1. +5
        5 June 2022 06: 44
        Valery!!! Thanks for the article! I read it with great interest, but ... not so long ago there was something in the magazine "Mysteries of History." You?
        1. VLR
          +8
          5 June 2022 06: 50
          I hear from you for the first time. But there is a lot of literature on this topic, so it is not surprising. True, in the main, materials are still being published where Borgia is "a dissolute family of poisoners practicing incest." The power of tradition, and so, probably, "more interesting" for readers.
          1. +5
            5 June 2022 06: 57
            Quote: VlR
            I hear from you for the first time.

            It is. That in no way humiliates your work! Believe me! The article is excellent! I just noticed, no more. With sincere respect! hi
          2. +3
            5 June 2022 07: 31
            Good morning, Valery! smile
            and so, probably, "more interesting" for readers.

            Well, fortunately not for everyone, but for "strawberry lovers" this is available, although I didn’t read it, I didn’t even look through it.



            Found on a tip from our friend Ivan (tlauicol).
          3. 0
            6 June 2022 00: 37
            But there is a lot of literature on this topic, so it is not surprising.

            Dear Valery. Thanks for the article, I have never been fond of this topic. But your work aroused great interest in me, I looked in the online archives for books on these events, I came across "Inquisitorial Proceedings" by Marin Julio Melgares. I started reading, it turns out they had a very "eventful" life, "worse" than any detective story. Thanks again.
  4. +3
    5 June 2022 07: 10
    I wonder how many specimens of amaranth grew in front of the ducal palace? Apparently enough.
  5. +5
    5 June 2022 07: 16
    "That's how it is. In general, it's a pity for her, she's an unfortunate woman." (c) smile
    1. +4
      5 June 2022 07: 20
      Hmmm! Arguably? Although? bullyAgain about them? And the article ... about them. laughing
      1. +4
        5 June 2022 07: 25
        The life of the feudal aristocracy was hard. smile
        1. +3
          5 June 2022 07: 41
          Quote: parusnik
          was

          Women.Yes.Probably.Although? Current? Not worth it, right laughing
        2. +3
          5 June 2022 07: 54
          Quote: parusnik
          aristocracy..

          Alexei! A classic is just coming up! Remember? "Here I am standing in front of you ...." laughing
        3. +3
          5 June 2022 08: 08
          Quote: parusnik
          parusnik
          Today, 07: 25

          0
          The life of the feudal aristocracy was hard.

          Oh! Who is it easy now? And then? request
          1. 0
            5 June 2022 17: 04
            "And even then" how is it with Nekrasov: "who in Russia has a good life?"
        4. +1
          5 June 2022 17: 08
          The life of the feudal aristocracy was hard.


          And do not say... laughing

        5. +2
          5 June 2022 21: 20
          The life of the feudal aristocracy was hard.

          Yes. "From koyka to koyka", as the bearded Muscovites of that time say. laughing drinks
          I knew that Valery would insert a photo with Irons (well, it's like writing about Pal Petrovich and not inserting a photo of Viktor Ivanovich Sukhorukov). good The series, it seems, was not so successful, and it was never filmed to its logical conclusion? what

          - So, yes, Vanek ... You will now praise Mamon ... King Herod ... Simon the Magus ... and Lucretia Borgia ...
          - Lou-Lucretius I won't... I won't.
          - Who will you be?
          - Mother of God I can.
          - The Mother of God is not needed, Vanya! She, out, and without you praise. And for poor Lucretia, there is no one to say! Do you know how she suffers there, in our department?
          - I still won't.

          (film "The Monk and the Demon").


          The movie is awesome. Bubalik and I love him. So, do we all remember that Bubalik has a birthday tomorrow? wink I ask you to congratulate, and score in your notebooks!
        6. 0
          8 June 2022 11: 19
          And the feudal peasant? In our region, 30% lived to 20 years
      2. +3
        5 June 2022 07: 46
        Quote: Phil77
        Again about them? And

        Sergey! Note that according to the article ... only me! The rest .... about women! Although? The article is about ... women !!! laughing
        1. +3
          5 June 2022 08: 41
          And!!!! I note. Beautiful! AUTHOR! One of the few remaining, no?
        2. +1
          5 June 2022 17: 06
          "about women" more precisely about one
    2. +3
      5 June 2022 08: 03
      Quote: parusnik
      her,

      "Aster" will come and .... ??? Judge.Or bully "God save!" Tatra! fellow I'm laughing, right! Over both. Right!
      1. +5
        5 June 2022 08: 45
        Seryozha, brother, slow down, the morning has just begun. smile
        1. +3
          5 June 2022 08: 54
          Quote: Sea Cat
          little brother

          Why? "Astra", "Tatra"? You and Anton, Nikolai, although you are a humorist! I respect you, except of course respected authors!
          1. +2
            5 June 2022 08: 57
            I forgot to mention Lyudmila Yakovlevna!
          2. +4
            5 June 2022 08: 59
            Why?


            Yes, the sun, you know, has risen and the dawn has come. smile
            1. +3
              5 June 2022 10: 28
              Quote: Sea Cat
              came

              Alas! Here too!
              1. +3
                5 June 2022 10: 46
                I believe Yura. President? But!
                1. +3
                  5 June 2022 11: 00
                  Listen, don't drag politics here, to History, everyone understands everything and everyone has their own opinion. Slow down.
                  1. +3
                    5 June 2022 11: 11
                    Ha, ha, ha!!! Yavol! I'm slowing down! Already. So, about the sun No. Cloudy. Yes!
                    1. +4
                      5 June 2022 11: 44
                      Take an example from a cat, he acts wisely. smile
                  2. +3
                    5 June 2022 11: 41
                    Quote: Sea Cat
                    slow down

                    And "tomorrow at the factory" (C) bully
                    1. +3
                      5 June 2022 11: 45
                      In-in, you will make sweets with the smell of alcohol. laughing
                      1. +3
                        5 June 2022 11: 50
                        Fuck ears!" "Proletarian-Urkaganskaya, yes you are a station, yes you are Taganskaya ...
                      2. +3
                        5 June 2022 12: 12
                        Quote: Phil77
                        Taganskaya

                        " New life.
                        Let's sit down, let's talk about nothing.
                        New life ....." (C)
                        It's Yura!!! Shevchuk!!!
                      3. +4
                        5 June 2022 13: 57
                        There is something in this...
                      4. +4
                        5 June 2022 14: 54
                        White is a human too. laughing

                      5. +1
                        5 June 2022 16: 02
                        Kostya, hello. Your health, judging by the pictures, is normal.
                        Tired "squirrel"
                      6. +2
                        5 June 2022 16: 15
                        Tired "squirrel"

                        So after all, without days off, tirelessly paws, so to speak. laughing

                        And health could be better. request
                      7. +1
                        5 June 2022 17: 23
                        This is exactly at our age, health is already ... It is desirable how many years to throw off and health is better
                      8. +1
                        5 June 2022 18: 04
                        and health will be better


                        Unfortunately, not everyone is as lucky as Dr. Faust. smile request

                      9. +1
                        6 June 2022 07: 10
                        Kostya, well, his own Faust to the devil.
                        And then, where is the guarantee that Goethe did not swindle? We do not know what kind of character Goethe was: maybe crystal honest, but maybe ...
                      10. 0
                        6 June 2022 09: 08
                        Goethe was talented, the rest is unimportant.
          3. +2
            5 June 2022 12: 27
            Quote: Phil77
            Nicholas, although

            Where did I hurt my friend Nicola? Nicholas friend!
            1. +1
              5 June 2022 16: 16
              What are you doing? wassat Or are you just talking to yourself? belay
          4. +1
            5 June 2022 21: 24
            You and Anton, Nikolai, although a comedian!

            If you don't stop explaining you personally Tatra will judge! laughing Until the first aspen ... there he will hang. bully But for what specific place she will hang - she already knows better! request drinks Serge, hello! drinks
  6. +5
    5 June 2022 08: 19
    Intimate relationships between members of the Borgia family are questionable for this reason as well. Siblings are always competitors, closely watching so that someone does not get an extra bun. Besides, they know such things about each other. who absolutely kill all erotic thoughts and perfectly remember who, when and where, “crap it out - literally and figuratively. vixen, who always yells at him (if the eldest) or is always naughty (if the youngest).And for the sister, the brother at the sight of which her friends are thrilled is absolutely not a macho and not a prince on a white horse.Intimate relations between them are probably a sign of despair - when there is no one else to be with, but Lucrezia and, especially, Cesare, never had such problems, and Rodrigo-Alexander too.
    1. +3
      5 June 2022 08: 31
      Please! Is there no evidence that she slept with him? No?
      1. +3
        5 June 2022 17: 25
        Valery did not see and I did not happen to
    2. +3
      5 June 2022 08: 36
      Quote: vet
      The intimate relationship between them is probably a sign of despair - when there is no one else at all. But Lucrezia and, especially, Cesare, never had such problems. Yes, and Rodrigo-Alexander too.

      Oh, come on! Themselves ... contradict. But in general? Damn happy. Communicating with you! what
    3. +4
      5 June 2022 09: 09
      By family relationships.
      I watched, somewhere in 1990, the film Caligula and it became clear why the Roman Empire collapsed. Satiation with life, etc.
      Well, the relationship between brother and sister, played by the future star Elena Mironova.
      At the time described by the author, something similar was probably going on at the "top". The Italians are such scammers! laughing
      1. +1
        5 June 2022 10: 58
        Quote: ee2100
        The Italians are such scammers!

        "In the last autumn ...." Sasha? Isn't Shevchuk singing for sure?
        1. +3
          5 June 2022 11: 43
          Hello, Sergey!
          In the last autumn - DDT. Lovely song!
          1. +3
            5 June 2022 12: 15
            Quote: ee2100
            In the last autumn - DDT. Lovely song!

            Sasha!!!! How glad I am to hear / see / see you, in a word! Greetings to you, damn Estonian!!!! Glad!;;
            1. +2
              5 June 2022 12: 18
              Quote: Phil77
              Estonian!!!! Glad

              Rais kuuraattt!!!!No? bully
              1. +1
                5 June 2022 14: 22
                Kuradi Raisk
            2. +3
              5 June 2022 12: 19
              Mutually! You are practically the earth!
      2. +1
        5 June 2022 11: 25
        Quote: ee2100
        star Elena Mironova

        She is! Star???
        In principle, I agree. Rome was ruined by oversaturation. No! Satiation! Yes!
        1. +2
          5 June 2022 11: 44
          If Elena is an Oscar winner, then a star!
      3. +1
        5 June 2022 21: 28
        played by the future star Elena Mironova

        Sasha, awesome! good Respect! drinks Thank you! Yes EMNIP, then she also played the queen? The one that celebrated 70 years of government on Friday? wink
        1. +1
          6 June 2022 05: 26
          She also played our Catherine II. In general, well done, hard worker and talent
  7. +1
    5 June 2022 09: 24
    Series Awesome!
  8. +2
    5 June 2022 11: 23
    Lucrezia next to her father, Rodrigo di Borgia, frame from the series "Borgia" (Hungary, Ireland, Canada, 2011-2013)
    The title photo of the article is a mistake! In the series, this is Giulia Farnese, the lover is not Rodrigo di Borgi, but already Pope Alexander VI hi
    1. +3
      5 June 2022 11: 35
      But you! Right! No one noticed, huh?!!! Bravissimo!!!!
    2. VLR
      +3
      5 June 2022 11: 37
      It's strange, I haven't watched the series, but everywhere this girl goes like Holliday Granger, who plays the role of Lucrezia Borgia. Now I checked - again, this is how it "gets out" for all requests. But I haven't looked, so I can't say for certain.
      1. +3
        5 June 2022 12: 00
        I even downloaded it (the series), I recently reviewed it, so I declare with all responsibility that this is based on the film by Giulia Farnese. Actress Lotte Verbeek. Compare her photo with the title picture of your article. hi
        1. +2
          5 June 2022 12: 28
          I'm sorry, but is look?
          1. +4
            5 June 2022 12: 46
            I must say right away that the series was filmed very worthy, I watched it on TV, I immediately went in. But! Of course, this is not a purely historical film, there are a lot of historical mistakes and inconsistencies. And in general, I would throw out half of the love crap. But still, the costumes, scenery, acting, and in general the whole story is "excellent"! At least it's better to see once and make your impression. So...
      2. +4
        5 June 2022 12: 04
        Here is the serial Lucretia. Holly Granger.
  9. +5
    5 June 2022 12: 27
    Shortly before her death, she was tonsured a nun. Franciscan Brotherhood.

    Maybe, after all, the Clarissa sisterhood? :)))
    I'm talking about the fact that the "first order of St. Francis" is exclusively male. And having a similar charter for women, back in the 13th century, it received the name of St. Clara.
    1. VLR
      +5
      5 June 2022 13: 08
      Yes, the female offshoot was created by Chiara (Clara) Offreduccio, from a wealthy Assisi family that Francis helped to flee their home. At the age of 21, she headed a convent - in the house near the first church renovated by Francis (St. Damian). She died the day after receiving a papal bull, approving the charter of the female monastic Order of Poor Ladies (Poor Clarissa) written by her.
      1. VLR
        +5
        5 June 2022 13: 24
        By the way, this lady - Clarice, suffered from hallucinations at the end of her life, and on this basis she was appointed the patroness of television! As they say, both laughter and sin.
        1. +3
          5 June 2022 13: 37
          Well, nothing, St. Louis, who is generally the patron saint of hairdressers, with some kind of fright.
          1. +2
            5 June 2022 14: 03
            Quote: 3x3zsave
            hairdressers, with some kind of fright.

            On Monday I'll be... unshaven... three days? Wright?
            1. +2
              5 June 2022 14: 20
              No, not "right", but "veri-veri beed". You will no longer be confused with Martin Freeman ...
              1. +2
                5 June 2022 14: 41
                Come on! "My poet"! laughing
                Good cigarettes, yes.
                1. +2
                  5 June 2022 14: 46
                  "My Poet"
                  Envy silently!
                  1. +1
                    5 June 2022 21: 32
                    "My Poet"

                    Caravaggio with the lute, you didn't congratulate me! am And I have sedni, by the way, a holiday! Almost a Vespasian day! crying environmental day... recourse
                    1. +1
                      5 June 2022 21: 46
                      Well, you don’t congratulate me on the builder’s day ...
                      1. +1
                        5 June 2022 21: 49
                        Well, you don’t congratulate me on the builder’s day ...

                        Ah, so, so... Okay... feel When is the minnesinger's professional holiday there? drinks
                        Yah you. laughing Are you still thinking of adding about one place known to a narrow circle of people? drinks It would be necessary to change the subject sometimes, Anton Anatolyevich ... I, too, in 2017, first began to write about Kingisepp, but in the end, this article came out second. request
                      2. +1
                        5 June 2022 22: 10
                        I'm starting to wonder if I should post here....
                      3. +1
                        6 June 2022 00: 26
                        I'm starting to wonder if I should post here....

                        Where else. Here you are loved, here are your friends, buddies.
              2. +1
                5 June 2022 14: 47
                Quote: 3x3zsave
                confuse

                No, seriously, not bad! *I will not recommend. For? But? Good
              3. +1
                5 June 2022 14: 50
                Quote: 3x3zsave
                Martin Freeman

                And I was unshaven for three days. Gone.
                1. 0
                  5 June 2022 21: 52
                  And I was unshaven for three days. Gone.

                  I used to shave every day. After two weeks in the hospital at the beginning of 2016, he let go of his beard and mustache. Compensating for a bald spot... and extra cheeks... recourse
          2. +3
            5 June 2022 14: 19
            My poet, perhaps because he had a trusted adviser: a hairdresser. Remember "Quentin Dorward," Olivier the devil?
            It would make Olivier himself a patron, but the nickname and his behavior are not religious,
            1. +1
              5 June 2022 14: 54
              Quote: Astra wild2
              trusted advisors: hairdresser. Remember, "Quentin Dorward

              Vera! Anton compared me with Martin) .. Freeman? Can you imagine, do you watch movies, no? About Sherlock?
              1. +2
                5 June 2022 16: 40
                I love Soviet Holmes. By the way, I'll start watching tomorrow. The site will probably be bored and it's time to watch the Soviet TV series
                1. +2
                  5 June 2022 17: 30
                  I agree the series is good. I tried to watch their "Holmes" and I don't remember them anymore
              2. 0
                5 June 2022 21: 59
                Vera! Anton compared me with Martin) .. Freeman?

                It would be better to compare with Morgan Freeman ... bully
                After all, I knew, Sergey, that you are an Afro-Russian with a large device! fellow drinks Well spilled!


                Well, when you go home from work, you sing under your breath: "I-I-e Coco Jumbo, I-I-e ..." tongue



                Sergey, I sincerely apologize for the friendly jokes! I love-kiss! drinks If you say sorry, I will apologize a hundred times through the State Services! Yes drinks
          3. +2
            5 June 2022 14: 24
            Quote: 3x3zsave
            hairdressers

            By the way, Anton! Switched to "LD red". How to say? Not bad. Compared to * Java "St. Petersburg. Although???? This poison is also .... yours.
        2. +2
          5 June 2022 14: 11
          "appointed patroness of television" means everything that shows TV - hallucinations?
          1. +1
            5 June 2022 14: 29
            Quote: Astra wild2
            television" means everything that shows TV - hallucinations?
            Read it! bully
            Again.
          2. +1
            5 June 2022 15: 36
            Quote: Astra wild2
            hallucinations

            Yes, Vera! Yes! And we are in the forefront. Do you want, no, it does not depend on us. Although? Your right? How to think.
            1. +2
              5 June 2022 16: 16
              Since the saint "patron" suffered from hallucinations, then on TV a hallucination of real life
            2. +1
              5 June 2022 16: 19
              I don’t know about others, but I consider myself real, not a glitch
          3. +1
            5 June 2022 15: 50
            Quote: Astra wild2
            TV - hallucinations?

            For you personally?!!? This is discussed. Judging by .... I am silent, silent, silent !!! bully
            1. +1
              5 June 2022 18: 26
              What is asphalt repair under the house?
  10. +2
    5 June 2022 14: 05
    Colleagues, Valery good afternoon. I am very sorry that Valery and Vyacheslav Olegovich, whether they want it or not, are competing.
    I'm trying to comprehend the material of Valery and Vyacheslav Olegovich and I'm not sure that everything is going well
    1. +1
      5 June 2022 14: 10
      Quote: Astra wild2
      doing well

      Verochka! The main thing is that? Attempt!!! Have you? It turned out! "Plus" mine! From the heart, right !!!!
    2. +1
      5 June 2022 14: 12
      Quote: Astra wild2
      comprehend the material of Valery and Vyacheslav Olegovich and I’m not sure

      Is it worth it? The main thing! "Bingo"! You!!!
    3. +1
      5 June 2022 14: 33
      Quote: Astra wild2
      comprehend

      "How I love...the smell of napalm..."
      Astra! You .... darling!
      1. +1
        5 June 2022 17: 43
        "the smell of napalm" am I really that disgusting?
        1. +1
          5 June 2022 18: 45
          Quote: Astra wild2
          disgusting

          No you. Charming!
  11. +1
    5 June 2022 14: 38
    Quote: Astra wild2
    Remember "Quentin Dorward," Olivier the devil?

    Did I understand everything exactly? bully
    1. +2
      5 June 2022 15: 55
      I don't know about you, but I get it. Madame hurried and poked without looking.
      It happens to myself
      1. +1
        5 June 2022 18: 38
        Quote: vladcub
        a

        What is asphalt under the house? Vershteen!!!!???
        1. +1
          5 June 2022 18: 39
          And languages?!
        2. +1
          5 June 2022 18: 53
          Asphalt that was normal!!!!!
  12. +1
    5 June 2022 15: 51
    Savanarola's face, God forbid, will dream at night.
  13. +1
    5 June 2022 16: 39
    It's funny that the orgies were arranged by none other than the leadership of the Catholic Church itself.
    And Borgia became a pope thanks to all sorts of violations of laws and morality, it turns out that the most immoral and unprincipled types win in the competitive struggle for power.
    1. VLR
      +2
      5 June 2022 16: 58
      In the previous article, it was a little told about how the predecessors of Pope Alexander Borgia observed the "laws and morals". An ordinary pope, even more decent than many of his "colleagues".
  14. +1
    5 June 2022 18: 55
    Quote: Phil77
    Asphalt that was normal!!!!!

    Well, like, not Sabyaninsky
    1. +1
      5 June 2022 18: 57
      Plants so as not to stand idle. Everything stinks.! Damn it !!!
  15. 0
    6 June 2022 09: 36
    in the first photo next to the Pope Borgia is not Lucrezia, but Giulia Farnese.
  16. 0
    31 July 2022 14: 22
    By the way, I do not see any contradictions in the fact that Giovanni the first son of Lucrezia was declared her brother. This is probably true, for he was born from her father Cesare .... But this is not certain