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The military commissar writes about the attack on the Beskydy railway tunnel in Ukraine, the Ministry of Defense has not yet commented

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Ukrainian media are reporting strikes on targets in the western regions of the country, including in the Stryi region. There are also reports of a missile attack on the Beskydy Tunnel. This is the second longest railway tunnel in Ukraine. Its length is just over 1,8 km, it is located on the territory of the Lviv and Transcarpathian regions. The capacity is up to 100 pairs of trains per day, which run on electric traction.


The Beskydy tunnel has been actively used recently for the supply of foreign weapons to Ukraine. It was through him, according to some reports, that the American M777 howitzers and their ammunition were supplied.

Commissar Andrei Rudenko writes about the strike on the Beskid Tunnel in his TG channel, noting that this was also announced in Kyiv. The military commander Yevhen Poddubny also writes about strikes on the railway infrastructure in the Lviv region in the TG. The Russian Defense Ministry has not yet commented on these messages.

If the Beskydy railway tunnel is really damaged, then this will certainly cause difficulties with the transportation of military cargo to the territory of Ukraine. Moreover, it is difficult to overestimate the importance of the Beskydy Tunnel for the EU countries. After all, more than 60 percent of transit cargo goes through it to Europe.
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  1. Flooding
    Flooding 2 June 2022 06: 53
    +47
    If the tunnel is brought to an unusable state, then this will primarily affect the movement of exports in the direction of Slovakia and the Czech Republic.

    Now let these suppliers of death think about whether it was necessary to work out numbers in Uncle Sam's big top on their hind legs.
    1. Myths
      Myths 2 June 2022 06: 57
      +16
      Yes, they don’t give a damn about them, but they didn’t fly. And the tunnel, well, what to do if it’s not severe damage, then it can be repaired, although this is not a fact, they are only dismantling 404 so far.
      1. Flooding
        Flooding 2 June 2022 06: 59
        +14
        Quote from Mitos
        Yes, they don’t give a damn about them, but they didn’t fly.

        If deliveries of ore, grain, and other strategically important goods are disrupted, then do not give a damn.
        This is a change in logistics routes, an increase in the cost of delivery and the final cost.
        1. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 2 June 2022 07: 12
          +12
          If it hit this tunnel, then it’s probably heavy concrete-piercing. And accurate. Otherwise, there’s no point.
          1. Siberian54
            Siberian54 2 June 2022 07: 57
            +4
            why concrete breaker? A cruise missile entered the tunnel and exploded at a certain distance? Or do they also fall in a steep trajectory?
            1. Denis812
              Denis812 3 June 2022 21: 51
              0
              Where and how did the rocket enter?
              You apparently exaggerate the capabilities of missiles a little.
              Caliber flew in and slammed 10-20 meters away. He did not fly anywhere INSIDE.
              As much as we would not like it.
              Let's not lie to ourselves.
          2. GNM
            GNM 2 June 2022 09: 21
            +13
            There is only sense in the dagger, the rest of the rockets are like tickling an elephant.
            1. saved
              saved 2 June 2022 10: 34
              -5
              Normal air raid and all. Perhaps even with the loss of several aircraft, but we will save thousands of lives by plowing the border roads
              1. PROXOR
                PROXOR 2 June 2022 11: 25
                +2
                This is not just an air raid, but a full-fledged air operation with layered attack and electronic warfare systems under the leadership of 1-2 A50 aircraft. The strikers need to clear the way and understand perfectly well that NATO reconnaissance equipment will transmit information about the impending raid in advance.
                So everything is grown-up. With the suppression of air defense by anti-radar missiles and Caliber. At least 1 squadron of Su-35s must be on duty in the air.
                And be prepared for the fact that, like the Turks, they can stab in the back from their NATO territory. And then I’ll say sorry, we didn’t follow the pilot.
        2. alex neym_2
          alex neym_2 2 June 2022 07: 15
          +1
          However, Lvov gives data that they did not hit. But should they be trusted?
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 2 June 2022 07: 16
            +19
            Quote: aleks neym_2
            However, Lvov gives data that they did not hit

            If you don't hit, then there will be a second arrival.
            1. usr01
              usr01 2 June 2022 07: 24
              +12
              Quote: Flood
              ... there will be a re-arrival

              Absolutely necessary!!! wink
              This is Zatoka v2.0! those. to make operation impossible, and the scale of damage to be minimal, so that after the victory it would be possible to quickly = cheaply restore ... hi
              (by the forces of captured Nazis)
            2. Piramidon
              Piramidon 2 June 2022 07: 33
              +34
              Quote: Flood
              If you don't hit, then there will be a second arrival.

              Our best saboteur I.G. Starinov needs to learn. In 1936, in Spain, he collapsed a kilometer-long railway tunnel seriously and for a long time./
              1. Aviator_
                Aviator_ 2 June 2022 07: 51
                +10
                In 1936, in Spain, he collapsed a kilometer-long railway tunnel seriously and for a long time./
                His DRG was there. The locomotive hooked a car tire with explosives and dragged it inside the tunnel, then there was a big "boom". A shock wave in a limited space did a lot of things.
              2. Konnick
                Konnick 2 June 2022 08: 15
                +8
                Our best saboteur I.G. Starinov needs to learn. In 1936, in Spain, he collapsed a kilometer-long railway tunnel seriously and for a long time.

                Yes, there were people at that time. It is believed that Starinov is the prototype of the bomber Robert Jordan from Hemingway's novel For Whom the Bell Tolls. And the tunnel in the Cordoba region collapsed for a short time, after 5 days the movement began. It is very difficult to collapse a tunnel in rocky rocks.
            3. Paul Siebert
              Paul Siebert 2 June 2022 09: 16
              +15
              Quote: Flood
              Quote: aleks neym_2
              However, Lvov gives data that they did not hit

              If you don't hit, then there will be a second arrival.

              Of course, if we don’t hit, we’ll hit again and again.
              Something else surprises me. It is the 94th day of the war, and this tunnel was hit for the first time.
              Strange somehow ...
              Maybe it's just not my business ... There are no fools in the General Staff ...
              But somehow it's not clear ... and that's it ... request
              1. bootlegger
                bootlegger 2 June 2022 10: 25
                0
                Apparently there is an understanding that hunting for trains at junction stations is easier than for trucks with equipment. Now, it’s not World War II, when serious deliveries of heavy equipment were possible only by railway transport and ships, when in Ukraine there were not roads but directions. A convenient network of roads and a bulk of heavy trucks has already been developed.
                You can kill the entire railway infrastructure, then all this will spread along the roads and then catch them one by one tank and one MLRS. And so they covered one train with equipment and there is a result.
              2. And W2
                And W2 2 June 2022 13: 34
                0
                Clever thoughts are not only in the General Staff, and they do not go around only on command.
          2. Siberian54
            Siberian54 2 June 2022 08: 00
            +2
            Rather fake! to miss a stationary target of this size, it still needs to be managed ..
          3. terms
            terms 2 June 2022 09: 35
            +3
            There is a feeling that both of them are lying)) Dad called his uncle in the Carpathians - he says that they didn’t get into Beskydy at all, but in a different way, which is closer to Stry, in Upper Sinevidny.
          4. Sedoy
            Sedoy 2 June 2022 12: 13
            +1
            you don't have to believe, you have to think
            since these say that they didn’t hit, but the Moscow Region is silent, that is, there is reason to believe that the result, as with the bridge, hit the support, but to no avail ... the bridge stood as it stands ...
            with a rocket, such structures can be hit, but it’s difficult to damage ...
            pin to sy, in Afghanistan, it was as if air-earth missiles hit the entrance of the caves with barmaley ...
            but no one bothered them to fly close ...
            now, if the caliber flew in and exploded, at least 20 meters inside - then yes, there would be a blockage ...
            explosions outside - canvas repair for a couple of days ...
            outside - you need a massive bombardment with fabs (cab, upab) from 500kg and above ...
            but there is reinforced air defense - i.e. gotta clean it up first...
            but with a harpoon from outside the air defense zone - this is just right, for such a useful thing, you don’t feel sorry for such an expensive toy ...
        3. 9283539239
          9283539239 2 June 2022 08: 22
          +1
          and how everything that you have listed will affect the United States, no matter how
      2. Egoza
        Egoza 2 June 2022 07: 03
        +31
        Quote from Mitos
        Well, what to do if not severe damage, then maybe they will repair it,

        The very fact that a blow has already been struck in Western Ukraine is already a SHOCK. Although the guys were mobilized from the memory, all the same, for them the war was somewhere out there, among the Muscovites. And suddenly here you are! Great news! Now would not stop and not let him restore it.
        1. Myths
          Myths 2 June 2022 07: 05
          +11
          The news is yes, but the Moscow Region is still silent about this, which is strange, but they immediately cackled in the chicken coop.
          1. dmi.pris
            dmi.pris 2 June 2022 07: 13
            +3
            We are waiting for the tantrum Lucy Arestovich
          2. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 2 June 2022 08: 14
            +4
            MO always talks about strikes that took place only the next day.
      3. Piramidon
        Piramidon 2 June 2022 07: 20
        +3
        Quote from Mitos
        And the tunnel, well, what to do if it’s not severely damaged, then it can be repaired

        It seems to me that the tunnel is more difficult to repair than the bridge. So if you bring it down, then it's for a long time
        1. Humpty
          Humpty 2 June 2022 07: 39
          +4
          Quote: Piramidon
          It seems to me that the tunnel is more difficult to repair than the bridge. So if you bring it down, then it's for a long time

          In any case, it is better to damage the tunnel than to do nothing with it.
          Outside seriously and for a long time to disable the tunnel, within the conventional framework, I don’t know how. Blockages are cleared quickly.
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      4. Lionnvrsk
        Lionnvrsk 2 June 2022 08: 08
        +5
        Quote from Mitos
        If the Beskydy railway tunnel really suffered significant damage,

        Unlikely. In my opinion, the tunnel is a very difficult target to hit. The Zatokinsky bridge is much larger, and only after the sixth arrival we managed to inflict significant damage. And for the tunnel, a complex missile and bomb strike is probably needed. It seems to me that this calibration was more of a warning and indicative character. It is easier to reset the infrastructure of railways and highways - these are bridges, traction substations, etc. yes
        1. Konnick
          Konnick 2 June 2022 08: 20
          +3
          And for the tunnel, a complex missile and bomb strike is probably needed.

          And why, then to restore when it will be Russia? Periodically bring down the entrance to the tunnel, this will be enough. And a bombing strike, even with missiles, will not be able to decommission the tunnel for a long time. The tunnel can only be destroyed by the explosion of wagons with explosives inside the tunnel.
      5. Terenin
        Terenin 2 June 2022 16: 50
        +4
        on the strike on the Beskydy railway tunnel in Ukraine
        Well, now our business oligarchs will go crazy, how can they now drive raw materials from Russia to their beloved West belay .
        Maybe that's why the Ministry of Defense is silent winked
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 2 June 2022 08: 42
      +3
      Gerashchenko, wrote a little later. The Carpathian mountains protected the object. It looks more like a stuffing.
      1. Myths
        Myths 2 June 2022 08: 50
        +2
        That's why I say we are waiting for confirmation of the Moscow Region. According to the targets on the western side, this was mentioned, but not a word about the tunnel. Another win if the mountains defended. So even to bring down the entrance, and even if there was a train in the tunnel, then this is for a long time.
    3. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 3 June 2022 09: 26
      +1
      Now let these suppliers of death think about whether it was necessary to work out numbers in Uncle Sam's big top on their hind legs.
      They don't think. Their business is to bear the losses in the name of Uncle Sam's prosperity. And how many of them perish, uncle is not interested. This is European cannon fodder.
  2. ARIONkrsk
    ARIONkrsk 2 June 2022 06: 54
    +15
    Apparently this blow was very sensitive for Ukraine, there is a lot of screeching about this.
    1. Pilot
      Pilot 2 June 2022 07: 08
      +20
      Still not to squeal to the Europeans, it’s crammed into a geyropa ukroduplo .. solid obstruction ..
  3. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 2 June 2022 06: 54
    +24
    Beskydy tunnel actively used lately for the supply of foreign weapons to Ukraine. It was through him, according to some reports, that the American M777 howitzers and their ammunition were supplied.
    After 3 months. And what do our headquarters do? recourse
    The question is why did you get there, through the old or the new tunnel? Yes, and where did they get, a tunnel at a depth of 180 m. Through the adjacent infrastructure? "The newspapers write about it somehow dully" repeat (Marriage of Balzaminov)
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 2 June 2022 06: 58
      -7
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      After 3 months. And what do our headquarters do?

      If this hit happened in March, you would write: "a month later"
      1. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 2 June 2022 07: 06
        +1
        and all the same, at the same time, I would ask a fair question .. but your message is not clear, in your opinion, a month later it would not be necessary to do this? for what reasons, may I ask?
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 2 June 2022 07: 11
          +6
          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          but your message is not clear - according to you, a month later you would not need to do this

          You should always do something useful.

          But endlessly sharpening lyes and trampling on the General Staff is such a thing ...
          Win-win in any case and grateful for the applause of readers.
          But far from the real man's business, which our army is busy with.
          Well, I wrote once. Well, two.
          The problem is clear.
          Always wish it were better.
          Well, here. Constant shaking of the air.
          1. max702
            max702 2 June 2022 07: 29
            +3
            The funny thing is that the "air shaking" over which they laughed and made fun SUDDENLY happens and those who laughed and made fun start screaming what the right decision is! GSH well done! And so on and so forth .. And the fact that amateurs from the sofa spoke about this months earlier is "This is different! You need to understand!" because uncles with big stars like know better .. Yeah .. And so it was with everything and with UAVs, and thermal imagers and enemy logistics and many many others .. And everything would be fine, but oh, how they don’t please the losses ..
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 2 June 2022 07: 37
              +6
              Quote: max702
              And the fact that amateurs from the couch talked about this months earlier is "This is different! You need to understand!"

              A little different. And very little.
              "Amateurs from the couch" immediately raise the bar and proceed from the maximum task.
              Break all bridges.
              Destroy all factories.
              Bomb all roads.
              It is not difficult to fight on paper.
              It is not necessary to take into account either the existing opportunities, or the conditions, or the consequences.

              While the command is forced to make decisions in a harsh reality.
              And to prioritize in conditions of limited opportunities and enemy opposition.

              And yes, you are right.
              When the Russian army reaches the borders of Poland, you can proudly write "we wrote in VO that we need to denazify all of Ukraine!"
              1. max702
                max702 2 June 2022 08: 12
                +3
                Quote: Flood
                It is not necessary to take into account either the existing opportunities, or the conditions, or the consequences.

                Yeah, the big giraffe knows better! To understand that a dish is spoiled, you don’t have to be a chef with a Michelin star .. Do we have the strength and means to smash all the infrastructure that interferes with us? There are not so many goals, and given how many we have (well, according to official data), then it’s ridiculous to say that there are no opportunities! Judging by the daily reports of the Russian Ministry of Defense in the VO, the aviation strike group does not exceed the Syrian one in the most tense times, so there are reserves for strikes, because the destroyed bridge today is the absence of a lot of things harmful to us tomorrow and the day after tomorrow.
                What are the consequences of these strikes? We will still grind everything that is in Ukraine into dust and it won’t work out differently, and this is no longer a question, but a fact .. The main thing is to save the lives of our soldiers, the rest is on the side!
                1. Flooding
                  Flooding 2 June 2022 08: 20
                  -1
                  Quote: max702
                  Do we not have the strength and means to destroy all the infrastructure that interferes with us? There are not so many goals, and given how many we have (well, according to official data), then it’s ridiculous to say that there are no opportunities!

                  Nobody says there are no opportunities.
                  The possibilities are limited!
                  Especially in view of a possible direct military conflict with NATO.
                  "There are not many goals" is how much?
                  Well, at least on the fingers. One hundred? Two hundred?
                  How many missiles did one bridge in Zatoka "eat"?
                  I would be interested in reading an in-depth analysis.
                  But these waving with toy sabers bored her God for three months.
                  1. GNM
                    GNM 2 June 2022 09: 30
                    -3
                    Quote: Flood
                    Quote: max702
                    Do we not have the strength and means to destroy all the infrastructure that interferes with us? There are not so many goals, and given how many we have (well, according to official data), then it’s ridiculous to say that there are no opportunities!

                    Nobody says there are no opportunities.
                    The possibilities are limited!
                    Especially in view of a possible direct military conflict with NATO.
                    "There are not many goals" is how much?
                    Well, at least on the fingers. One hundred? Two hundred?
                    How many missiles did one bridge in Zatoka "eat"?
                    I would be interested in reading an in-depth analysis.
                    But these waving with toy sabers bored her God for three months.

                    Navodlom, it is clear that you have life experience, you most adequately perceive the concept of the coincidence of desires with opportunities. I appreciate all your posts.
                    1. Flooding
                      Flooding 2 June 2022 09: 42
                      0
                      Quote: GNM
                      you most adequately perceive the concept of the coincidence of desires with opportunities

                      Thanks for the kind words.
                      But there are comrades here who are more experienced and smarter than me.
                  2. max702
                    max702 2 June 2022 11: 33
                    +1
                    Quote: Flood
                    How many missiles did one bridge in Zatoka "eat"?

                    Well, what prevented, for example, the Moskva Group of Companies from firing with the main caliber on the same bridge in Zatoka? A database using anti-ship missiles at the World Cup is not expected, they just stupidly drowned this pepelats and that's it .. And how many missiles were spent in real life? 3-5-10? And what? the cost of Caliber 0.5 million dollars spent, let's say 10 total 5 million dollars, the cost of one modern tank or self-propelled guns of the western model .. Expensive? By no means! With proper planning, it was possible to cover the train with military cargo during the passage, but this is apparently very difficult for the military (although in our time everything is more than good with the means of transmitting information) By the way, Israel does not have such tricks with opponents with a bang, but we we can’t for some reason .. So you can do a lot, but it’s practically not done ..
                    1. Flooding
                      Flooding 2 June 2022 14: 12
                      0
                      Quote: max702
                      Yes, and how many rockets were spent in real life? 3-5-10?

                      Answer my question above and multiply
                      Quote: Flood
                      "There are not many goals" is how much?
                      Well, at least on the fingers. One hundred? Two hundred?
                      1. max702
                        max702 2 June 2022 15: 38
                        0
                        Look in the cart everything is there for a long time
                        Therefore, we once again publish a list of important objects of the railway network of Ukraine:
                        ▪️ List of all bridges across the Dnieper (https://t.me/rybar/31569)
                        ▪️ List of railway bridges in western Ukraine (https://t.me/rybar/31571)
                        ▪️ Traction substations: part 1 and (https://t.me/rybar/31602) part 2 (https://t.me/rybar/31603)
                        ▪️ Critical substations on the border with Poland (https://t.me/rybar/31950)
                        ▪️ Depot: list 1 (https://t.me/rybar/31661) and list 2 (https://t.me/rybar/31662)
                        ▪️ Recovery trains (https://t.me/rybar/31813)
                        #railroads #bridges #Lviv #Russia #Ukraine
                        @rybar
                        Duc seems to have written to you that if you allow 10 calibers, then $ 5 million self-propelled guns "Crab" for example costs 11 million .. Pennies against the background of a possible effect ..
                      2. stankow
                        stankow 4 June 2022 22: 38
                        0
                        11 mil. on SAU Crab ?? It is clear why they do not buy!
                    2. Ablet
                      Ablet 2 June 2022 15: 43
                      0
                      You can get to the bridge in Zatoka from the western peninsulas in the Kherson region, there from the village. Pokrovka to the bridge is 105 km according to Yandex. It means that the point-y will reach there and the tornado-s. From there, half of the Odessa region can be shelled like that.
                      1. max702
                        max702 2 June 2022 15: 48
                        -1
                        Yes, there is much more than one could desire! But with local divaners, everything is difficult and impossible! Why then SVO started is not clear ..
                      2. Flooding
                        Flooding 2 June 2022 20: 01
                        0
                        they write that two boats of the Ukrainian Navy, which were sunk in Ochakovo, were covered with the Smerch MLRS from the Kinburn Spit.
                        It's even closer. Already the Nikolaev region.
                        But this is not a fact.
                  3. lelik613
                    lelik613 2 June 2022 18: 06
                    +1
                    One unmanned An-2 can denazize no worse than three Calibers, Eldar Aliyev will not let you lie.
          2. SKVichyakow
            SKVichyakow 2 June 2022 08: 38
            -1
            Mr Obvious. You reproach the person for writing yourself in every post, and with just such a bias. Stop being a snob. It is this post of yours that fully describes what you write yourself. Do not constantly shake the air with obvious facts that by no means require proof and explanation.
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 2 June 2022 08: 40
              +1
              Quote: SKVichyakow
              Mr Obvious. You reproach a person for writing yourself in every post, and it is with such a bias

              Give specific examples that prove the correctness of your words.
              Do not stoop to the level of balabol and empty talk.

              Quote: SKVichyakow
              Stop being a snob

              Smart guy, don't play snobs.
              They either are or they are not.
              1. SKVichyakow
                SKVichyakow 2 June 2022 08: 48
                +1
                Read carefully what I wrote, as well as all your posts in this article. And I hope you can draw the conclusion that suggests itself from everything you read. In your case, you are exactly posing as a snob, I don’t think that you were born that way.
                1. Flooding
                  Flooding 2 June 2022 08: 56
                  +1
                  Quote: SKVichyakow
                  Read carefully what I wrote, as well as all your posts in this article.

                  Can I take it that you have no plausible explanation to justify your attacks on me other than personal hostility?

                  Quote: SKVichyakow
                  you're just pretending to be a snob

                  My dear, the word "snob" carries a negative connotation in Russian.
                  It's like writing "pretend to be a hypocrite".

                  This phrase is applicable to situations where a person wants to appear in the eyes of others better, more interesting and more significant than they really are.

                  That is, you can pretend to be a gentleman, an intellectual, even a jester.
                  But not a snob.
                  1. SKVichyakow
                    SKVichyakow 2 June 2022 09: 10
                    -1
                    You described the penultimate paragraph accurately, but pretend that you do not understand anything. If you still do not understand what you are, even after what I wrote to you, then read your penultimate line.
                    1. Flooding
                      Flooding 2 June 2022 09: 18
                      +3
                      Quote: SKVichyakow
                      If you still do not understand what you are, even after what I wrote to you, then read your penultimate line

                      How can you know what I don't know about myself?
                      Don't you think that this indicates an overestimation of your own abilities?
                      1. SKVichyakow
                        SKVichyakow 2 June 2022 10: 09
                        -1
                        If it were the way you write, then I did not pay attention and would write about the mistakes you made.
        2. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 2 June 2022 07: 17
          +4
          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          and yet, at the same time, I would ask a fair question.

          yes
          For all that, despite the fact that the weapons supplied to Ukraine are stipulated in the highest circles of Russian power as potential targets ...
          1. And W2
            And W2 2 June 2022 13: 48
            +1
            Data? Are you hinting at a match-fixing?
      2. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 2 June 2022 07: 21
        +9
        Quote: Flood
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        After 3 months. And what do our headquarters do?

        If this hit happened in March, you would write: "a month later"

        You see, tons of paper had to be written at the headquarters: option A, B, C, and so on until option Z. "And as soon as arms supplies from Yavropa began, they had to switch from option A to option Yu - the complete destruction of the infrastructure in which the tunnels stand ABOVE bridges, you will agree.And now there is a question of shelling OUR territory with US missiles. fool And the General Staff is to blame for this. request Fairy tale book "I have the honor!" Pikul, I recommend. repeat
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 2 June 2022 07: 30
          0
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          You see, tons of paper had to be written at the headquarters: option A, B, C, and so on until option Z. "And as soon as the supply of weapons from Yavropa began, they had to switch from option A to option Yu - the complete destruction of the infrastructure in which the tunnels stand ABOVE bridges, you must agree.And now there is already a question of shelling OUR territory with US missiles

          First, calculate what will result in "complete destruction of infrastructure."
          Since you are taking upon yourself the analysis of the actions of the General Staff.
          What do you think - come back with the numbers.
          And do not forget to also write down how many missiles will remain in the arsenal, and how it is possible to bring down "the entire infrastructure" with the available funds in a matter of days.

          For critics, everything "needed to be done on the first day."
          Clairvoyants right.
          And well, yes, clairvoyance was needed on February 24th.
          Now everyone suddenly became analysts, looking back.
          1. And W2
            And W2 2 June 2022 14: 08
            -4
            Except for thermonuclear war, "the complete destruction of infrastructure" is a process. Which can be adjusted and stopped based on the results of surrender, and so on. Now there is a struggle of Nanai boys. Or a fixed match. There is a trade whether our tops in the golden billion will be accepted. Pay attention Strangers are more democratic billion golden little men. Comparing our golden thousand, well, a maximum of 2000 somehow turns out to be poor, don't you think?
            1. And W2
              And W2 7 June 2022 13: 28
              0
              Why are you so excited, minus followers -4? Are you for thermonuclear war?
        2. fiv
          fiv 2 June 2022 07: 48
          +1
          If military cargoes are sent by known methods (routes), they are easier to track to storage locations. If the established delivery routes are destroyed, new, more hidden ones appear, which still need to be determined, difficulties arise with determining the composition and quantity of deliveries. And the tunnel is easy to repair. and, as they say, every vegetable has its time. And also - the higher the level of decision making - the more complex the system of equations that need to be solved, the greater the number of variables. And there are a lot of solutions.
    2. max702
      max702 2 June 2022 07: 22
      +2
      They were waiting for the West to supply everything the stoners needed ..
      1. Disant
        Disant 2 June 2022 08: 50
        -2
        Quote: max702
        They were waiting for the West to supply everything the stoners needed ..

        well, they would have been fucked earlier - and what - there are no roads or what? Everything that is needed would be transported by car.
        they would lend not 100 rubles, but one hundred and five - for needs. not enough - well, here are two hundred. more will be printed.
        and so they would control the places of unloading and loading, what-where and how much
        1. max702
          max702 2 June 2022 10: 40
          +3
          And how will you be lucky across the Dnieper if the bridges are destroyed? Well, okay, leave a couple and control the transportation, but somehow all the bridges across the Dnieper are intact! Do not want through the Dnieper? Like will we get it? Good! Destroy the infrastructure along the western borders there, very little is needed in three months of the NWO, this could be done 5-10 times if necessary, but not only lately there have been some sluggish gestures ..
          And road transport with railways cannot be compared in any way, especially in terms of fuel and lubricants and bulk cargo, there are thousands of tons a day, which trucks are you talking about?
  4. Maximus196723
    Maximus196723 2 June 2022 06: 55
    +2
    Good news, and it would not be bad for a decision-making center.
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 2 June 2022 07: 15
      -1
      Quote: Maximus196723
      Good news, and it would not be bad for a decision-making center.

      No news. Somewhere something exploded. negative WIKI to help. Tunnels 2, old and new. Both need to be destroyed. They are at a depth of 180 m, you need hypersound or a vacuum bomb since nuclear weapons are impossible. So, it looks like the arrow was bent at the entrance. recourse
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 2 June 2022 07: 26
        +3
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        So, it looks like the arrow was bent at the entrance.

        I don’t know which of them, but they already beat me in April and also to no avail. They break the electrical substation at the entrance, the Ukrainians pull diesel locomotives until they are restored. And the whole story.
        1. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 2 June 2022 07: 32
          0
          Quote: NDR-791
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          So, it looks like the arrow was bent at the entrance.

          I don’t know which of them, but they already beat me in April and also to no avail. They break the electrical substation at the entrance, the Ukrainians pull diesel locomotives until they are restored. And the whole story.

          About that and speech. There is a lot of drumming, but it also jams, does not allow you to think.
          Advisor to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Anton Gerashchenko said about the blows cruise missiles along the Beskydy railway tunnel passing through the Carpathians in the Lviv region.
      2. Kesha1980
        Kesha1980 2 June 2022 07: 37
        +3
        The easiest way to strike - probably.

        Let them restore. Then you can still send Caliber.
      3. avg avg
        avg avg 2 June 2022 07: 39
        +1
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        vacuum bomb

        According to him you will recognize the pro!
      4. Humpty
        Humpty 2 June 2022 07: 50
        +1
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        They are at a depth of 180 m, you need hypersound or a vacuum bomb since nuclear weapons are impossible. Ta

        Have you ever paid attention to the construction of tunnels? For example, builders show concern in advance for those who, if something happens, destroy the tunnel. All this "magic" inside.
    2. fiv
      fiv 2 June 2022 07: 55
      +1
      Please provide the coordinates and calculation of weapons
      1. And W2
        And W2 2 June 2022 14: 37
        0
        We don’t have space, in the General Staff there are no decoders of reconnaissance videoconferencing photographs, are there no radio emitters and missiles guiding radio emission? Stopped releasing EMP bombs? About the Hephaestus sight that turns the FAB into a precision-guided munition (my muscles hurt to pronounce this name of the device over and over again). Who wants to do, who does not want to look for reasons. Even the ensign's daughter says - my dad gave me an outfit out of turn. 200 echelons a day is not a ram spit. This strategic goal, along with the Defense Ministry, the SBU. Do we still have colonels - academicians or did taburetkin, along with the academies, disperse his brains? And if the heavenly group of field marshal generals is connected to a brainstorming session ... Or are there only builders of the shabashki left? And instead of brains, they have stew with French cognac splashing?
      2. And W2
        And W2 3 June 2022 11: 56
        0
        If we don't have military academics, and a colonel can be obtained through the academy, there is a magic command for the division of do one, do two. do three. In the worst case, there is a scientific method of poke. In fact, they are one and the same. There are bridges in front of the tunnels, electrical equipment are easier targets.
  5. YOUR
    YOUR 2 June 2022 06: 55
    +6
    Let's hope that the strikes were and were successful.
    1. ARIONkrsk
      ARIONkrsk 2 June 2022 06: 57
      +6
      Successful, there is a wild stench on Russia because of this.
      1. YOUR
        YOUR 2 June 2022 07: 24
        +4
        Ayyayay it’s not good how it happened. People are experiencing. They need to earn loot, but here is such a bummer.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 2 June 2022 06: 57
    +7
    there are reports of a missile attack on the Beskydy tunnel
    If this is true, then only one thing can be said: "Finally they gave birth, less than 4 months have passed."
    1. Pavel73
      Pavel73 2 June 2022 07: 22
      -8
      During these three months, we needed the railway infrastructure of Ukraine, so there were no strikes against it.
  7. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    +2
    The military correspondent writes about the attack on the Beskydy railway tunnel in Ukraine,

    ***
    A light in the end of a tunnel?...
    ***
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 2 June 2022 07: 49
      +1
      Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
      ***
      A light in the end of a tunnel?...

      Extinguish the need, this light, and immediately, a lot of blood drank from Russia.
  8. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 2 June 2022 07: 11
    +1
    ... "Beskydy tunnel has been actively used recently for the supply of foreign weapons to Ukraine" ...
    It is strange then, why the blow was struck only now, and not earlier?
    Well, better late than never.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 2 June 2022 07: 26
      +2
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      It's strange then why did they strike just nowand not before?

      The disdainful attitude of the Russian authorities to the fate of the inhabitants of the regions bordering with Ukraine...
      They cannot move away from the unfulfilled scenario with bread and salt and flowers.
      The SO, which smoothly flowed into a military conflict between Russia and NATO with the prishibay who joined, needs a sober assessment of EVERYTHING THAT IS HAPPENING in the light of the tactics and rules of combined arms combat.
      1. your1970
        your1970 2 June 2022 08: 26
        -1
        Quote: ROSS 42
        in the light of tactics and rules of combined arms combat.
        during
        Quote: ROSS 42
        conflict between Russia and NATO
        all major railway junctions, including Kyiv and Lvov, must be hit with tactical nuclear weapons.
        Are you - in the light of the tactics of combined arms combat - not embarrassed that this is not happening?
        On Your the logic of combined arms combat - this should have been done on February 23, BEFORE the start of the war ...
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 2 June 2022 09: 02
          +8
          Quote: your1970
          Are you - in the light of the tactics of combined arms combat - not embarrassed that this is not happening?

          It doesn't bother me much anymore. I am HATED to see how, chewing snot, some responsible persons explain the shelling of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Russian territory and what all sorts of talk about alleged negotiations and continued sponsorship of the Ukrainian economy mean in this situation.
          This is natural Crap: to fight and continue to trade and supply ...
        2. And W2
          And W2 2 June 2022 14: 58
          0
          A soldier will not offend a child! Why TNW? Why kill a mean boy bully? Kick his ass. And then you can move on to more serious punishments.
      2. Serg65
        Serg65 2 June 2022 08: 39
        +5
        Quote: ROSS 42
        The disdainful attitude of the Russian authorities to the fate of the inhabitants of the regions bordering with Ukraine...

        Vasilich, figs with him, with the tunnel, but why are the communists tearing shirts and blouses for Ukraine? Reveal this secret to me!
        1. Humpty
          Humpty 2 June 2022 09: 02
          +1
          Quote: Serg65
          but that's why the communists are tearing shirts and blouses for Ukraine?

          Sorry that stuck. I don’t think that ordinary modern communists are told where the Comintern is now holding congresses. Maybe not the old fashioned way, in the village with the letter "C", but in terms of meaning - somewhere nearby. hi
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 2 June 2022 09: 43
            +5
            Quote: Humpty
            but in meaning - somewhere near

            Well, almost nearby ... in the village with the letter "L", or rather, you need to ask comrades Rashkin and Klychkov!
            hi
        2. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 2 June 2022 09: 17
          +5
          Quote: Serg65
          but that's why the communists are tearing shirts and blouses for Ukraine? Reveal this secret to me!

          I didn’t understand - what kind of communists (where from)?
          The Communist Party of the Russian Federation supported all the actions of the GDP and expressed full agreement with the holding of the JI.
          It is extremely problematic to tear blouses for today's (after thirty years of indoctrination) Ukraine. For what and for whom should the communists worry?
          *****
          We (Russia) have only one concern - the preservation of the lives of the civilian population. Russia is not at war with the people of Ukraine, but with the Nazis in Ukraine. Nazis are not considered civilians.
          Then the other day they threw “sticks” at me for the “hero of Ukraine” “Volyn”, hinting that this is a soldier ... A soldier does not fight with children and women and does not hide behind them ... They found a knight with fear and reproaches ...
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 2 June 2022 10: 03
            +3
            Quote: ROSS 42
            I didn’t understand - what kind of communists (where from)?

            Well Vasilich ... by name ...
            Head of the Communist Party faction under the State Council of the Republic of Komi Viktor Vorobyov
            State Duma deputy from the Communist Party Oleg Smolin.
            Moscow City Duma deputy from the Communist Party Yevgeny Stupin.
            State Duma deputy from the Communist Party Matveev.
            Deputy of the Moscow City Duma from the Communist Party Engalycheva.
            Deputy of the Duma of Vladivostok from the Communist Party Kamenshchikov.
            Deputy of the Municipal Assembly of the Academic district of Moscow from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation Smirnov.
            Sevastopol RK LKSM of Moscow in full force.
            The district committee of the Komsomol of Tver in full force.
            Ivanov, Chairman of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.
            Well, it's so ... offhand!
            1. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx 2 June 2022 12: 02
              +2
              So we have almost 100% former communists in power.
              And others do such things that it becomes incomprehensible to whom and for what kind of their own humiliations they are taking revenge ...
              I can’t insert brains into those who for 8 years looked through their fingers at the massacres of Russians by the Nazis in Ukraine ... They didn’t even hold weapons in their hands (apparently) ... They failed in Komsomol-party parties, and today they regret that they put them on the old , dead horse...
              hi
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 2 June 2022 12: 33
                +3
                In general, confusion and vacillation!
            2. And W2
              And W2 2 June 2022 15: 09
              0
              I am adding. GDP?
              Head of the Federation Council.
              Head of the State Duma.
              MO.
              All malicious communists are capitalists. And somewhere perhaps billionaires, sometimes hereditary, no? Perhaps someone burned the party card, but you can’t drink away the squalor?
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 3 June 2022 07: 47
                +2
                Quote from And W2
                GDP?
                Head of the Federation Council.
                Head of the State Duma.
                MO.
                All evil communists

                belay They also began to defend the Ukrainian Nazis?????
                1. And W2
                  And W2 3 June 2022 11: 34
                  -1
                  If it flies like a duck, quacks like a duck, dives like a duck, who is it?
                  Flagship of the Black Sea Fleet Moscow?

                  The tunnel is a strategic object and is carefully guarded.
                  It transports more than 60% of cargo from Europe to Western and
                  central part of Ukraine. (Tsy)
                  A year later, Injun Joe noticed that there was NO fourth wall near the cell. You
                  personally in a good company of brakes, but apart from your maintenance fee
                  The peoples of the Russian Federation are bleeding and dying.
                  We repay some non-existent debts, pay money to Ukraine
                  (pumping gas through its territory) for killing our citizens by the military and
                  civil. The name of our country is Ukraine or this government
                  is it?
                  1. Serg65
                    Serg65 6 June 2022 06: 59
                    +1
                    Quote from And W2
                    Flagship of the Black Sea Fleet Moscow?

                    No...hetman Skoropadsky!
                    Quote from And W2
                    A year later, Injun Joe noticed that there was NO fourth wall near the cell.

                    In a year, Injun Joe is going to deliver humanitarian aid to Europe through this tunnel!

                    Quote from And W2
                    You personally are in good company of brakes

                    You are mistaken, I am not a resident of Ukraine!

                    Quote from And W2
                    pay
                    peoples of the Russian Federation is bleeding and lives

                    Well, what can you do if you Ukrainians do not understand normal words!
                    Quote from And W2
                    We repay some non-existent debts, pay money to Ukraine

                    Debts must always be repaid, although this is not about you!
                    We pay money to Ukraine for the collapse of Europe, Europe is our priority wink
                    Quote from And W2
                    The name of our country is Ukraine

                    what All the same, I was right about the name of your country! laughing
                    1. And W2
                      And W2 10 June 2022 13: 11
                      -1
                      My friend, what debts do we have after the arrest of national savings by the West? You and..from ?
                      Europe is our priority wink (Tse)
                      In what place do you, ass lickers, our people and our country? The question mark in my phrase Are you and.. from ? removed.
                2. And W2
                  And W2 7 June 2022 13: 05
                  -1
                  If THEY THAT protect, then what can be called criminal negligence and inaction? How did it happen that the country does not have a modern Navy (proof of the flagship at the bottom of the sea is Moscow), but friends of the unnamed ocean yachts, according to descriptions with submarines, with air defense. And they are under arrest! Spending on yachts, temples, 2x, 3x wives, 33 harems of mistresses, grandfathers, bugs, bitches, cats, mice do not allow an operation against banderlogs. The 1101st warning about strikes on the decision-making centers of the Defense Ministry, the General Staff of the SBU cause Homeric laughter in the world. Is this the 5th column in action?
                  Warning of the Russian Federation about the supply of Calibers to the LNR, DNR and a statement by their leadership about the response to the shelling of civilians by the SS, Bandera, participating in the war to all sorts of petty freaks from NATO, Slovaks, Peeners, etc. I put tanks, guns, etc., get a fascist grenade, in the sense of Caliber to death dealers.
        3. And W2
          And W2 9 June 2022 09: 36
          -2
          Serg, either take off the flag or put on your shorts. Tell me self-critically how part of the peoples of the USSR, the NKVD (combat detachment of the party), after being appointed prisoners, was accidentally landed on the northern island and turned into cannibals and cannibals.
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 10 June 2022 10: 59
            +1
            Quote from And W2
            Serg, either take off the flag, or put on shorts.

            Well, what can I tell you, a set of letters? I will not change the flag, but my panties will pass for your pants!
            Quote from And W2
            Tell me self-critically how part of the peoples of the USSR, the NKVD (combat detachment of the party), after being appointed prisoners, was accidentally landed on the northern island and turned into cannibals and cannibals.

            Why do you need this, you already know it firsthand from witnesses!
            1. And W2
              And W2 10 June 2022 12: 56
              -1
              I am ashamed of MY country, the USSR, that it left Bandera alive, and did not destroy it, it is a shame that it turned the prisoners into cannibals or fed the citizens of the USSR to cannibals.
              Therefore, NOW we have what we have in Ukraine. If we do not destroy Bandera now, this may happen again ALREADY in the Russian Federation. For example, in Tatarstan, 65 were destroyed with impunity!!! passengers by the family of President Minnikhanov, in Kuzbass 100 miners burned alive with impunity by the financially governmental elite (nomenclature) of Kuzbass, Kushchevka where bandits destroyed people and children, and now this family controls 10 or 20 billion, and so on. The trend however. Write where are the witnesses of the stated facts? I want to make MY country better, but you are trying to lower it into the dark ages. Some crimes CANNOT be justified by any flag. Do not dishonor the country with your knowledge and arguments at the level of the Central Pedagogical School. If we don't correct our mistakes, they come back.
    2. stankow
      stankow 4 June 2022 22: 47
      0
      It was necessary that at least some foreign samples were received. Try how they hold the projectile, and for advertising. They say Russian to carry Amer's weapons.
  9. Maximus196723
    Maximus196723 2 June 2022 07: 14
    +3
    If this is true, then it would probably be worth making sure that it is not quickly restored. And then the EU, I think, will be more careful in the supply of weapons, the tunnel sent 60% of the goods to Europe, I think this will be a good blow to the EU economy.
    1. max702
      max702 2 June 2022 07: 34
      -2
      Quote: Maximus196723
      Onnel sent 60% of the cargo to Europe, I think this will be a good blow to the EU economy.

      Therefore, they did not touch the logistics in Ukraine so as not to offend the "partners" in the West now, as there is nothing to carry THERE, they begin to nail it ..
  10. riwas
    riwas 2 June 2022 07: 16
    +3
    If the Beskydy railway tunnel is really damaged, then this will certainly cause difficulties with the transportation of military cargo to the territory of Ukraine. Moreover, it is difficult to overestimate the importance of the Beskydy Tunnel for the EU countries. After all, more than 60 percent of transit cargo goes through it to Europe.

    And problems with the supply of grain to Europe will arise.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 2 June 2022 07: 54
      +1
      And that is no longer our concern.
  11. Miragor B
    Miragor B 2 June 2022 07: 37
    -9
    What can destroy the tunnel? Nothing but nuclear weapons
  12. archiroll
    archiroll 2 June 2022 07: 41
    +9
    The tunnels and the narrowest places were supposed to be bombed an hour before the start of the ground operation ...
  13. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 2 June 2022 07: 46
    0
    Moreover, it is difficult to overestimate the importance of the Beskydy Tunnel for the EU countries. After all, more than 60 percent of transit cargo goes through it to Europe.

    We wrote about this for a long time, but so far the damage has not affected the movement of trains.
  14. DREAM
    DREAM 2 June 2022 07: 51
    -1
    First, calculate what will result in "complete destruction of infrastructure."
    What for? Credit-debit? Not included in the budget? Capitalism in action. At war!!!
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 2 June 2022 09: 24
      +2
      Quote: SAN
      First, calculate what will result in "complete destruction of infrastructure."

      Russia has nothing to count. In Western Ukraine and on its border, she was not going to restore anything.
  15. Sergio63
    Sergio63 2 June 2022 07: 52
    0
    Great news - waiting for official confirmation!!! From the very beginning it was necessary to block this, and other delivery routes! And so right to the point, Hurray, comrades !!! am
  16. Ros 56
    Ros 56 2 June 2022 07: 53
    +1
    Drive a Kinzhal-type missile with half a ton of heavy-duty explosives into it and the Ukronats will be happy. And for good, all roads and cars and railways would be plowed on the western border of Banderostan.
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 2 June 2022 08: 33
      0
      Quote: Ros 56
      Drive a Kinzhal-type missile with half a ton of heavy-duty explosives into it and the Ukronats will be happy

      Heavy-duty high explosives are more about chemistry as a science, and not about practical applications. Floor. tons, at least something chemical, even if it explodes inside, it's so little ...
  17. steelmaker
    steelmaker 2 June 2022 07: 54
    +1
    "declare strikes against an object in the western regions of the country,"
    It is high time! Western Ukraine must be demolished in the same way as the Armed Forces of Ukraine are demolishing the eastern one. Westerners should know that they will also live in basements. As it comes around, it will respond!
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 2 June 2022 08: 20
      -1
      If you follow the news, you should know that attacks on objects in the memory were repeatedly delivered. One blow to the Yavoriv range is worth remembering.
  18. Sergei Litovchenko
    Sergei Litovchenko 2 June 2022 07: 57
    +1
    Still, at the moment of impact, watch for a train with BC in the tunnel, so to speak, for the best special effects. I think this would definitely complicate the disassembly and repair. am
    1. Two
      Two 2 June 2022 09: 17
      0
      hi This is a Temka for DRG! Maybe already at work!?
  19. Dedok
    Dedok 2 June 2022 08: 00
    +1
    long overdue, and not only the tunnel, but also bridges, viaducts, etc.
  20. Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 2 June 2022 08: 11
    -2
    Our Ministry of Defense reports on the strikes that took place almost a day later.
  21. Revolver
    Revolver 2 June 2022 08: 12
    +1
    If the tunnel has not yet been struck, then it must be done, and the sooner the better. What the hell was the Zircon tested on a conditional target in the White Sea, when there are such "juicy" real targets in / on?
  22. Maestro
    Maestro 2 June 2022 08: 20
    +3
    It is clear that it is not the Beskydy Tunnel itself that needs to be destroyed, but the bridges next to it:

    1. Two
      Two 2 June 2022 09: 16
      +1
      hi What about traction substations?
  23. AleksT
    AleksT 2 June 2022 08: 25
    0
    The photo would show the impact results. And so we guess on the coffee grounds: bent the arrow or not bent
    1. huntsman650
      huntsman650 2 June 2022 09: 10
      +1
      also interesting). Can call on ukrzhd, ask around?
      1. NAIL77DM
        NAIL77DM 2 June 2022 10: 06
        +2
        you need to send an official request from VO
  24. Alexander Rasmukhambetov
    Alexander Rasmukhambetov 2 June 2022 08: 36
    +3
    This should have been done at least a month ago.
  25. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 2 June 2022 08: 41
    +3
    I don’t know whether ours hit the tunnel or not, what was the result of the blow, if it was. I have only one question - why was this tunnel not destroyed a couple of months ago, when only the lazy did not talk about it at VO and the blow was approved by all the marshals of the couch troops? You can't play giveaway where your soldiers/citizens are being killed.
    1. Viktor Sergeev
      Viktor Sergeev 2 June 2022 09: 06
      -1
      So, how are you going to destroy it? Only nuclear weapons, everything else is useless, temporary harm. It is easier to deliver a massive blow to all power plants and railway stations in the area.
    2. Chronos
      Chronos 2 June 2022 09: 28
      +2
      The blow, if it was on the tunnel, then sighting. Of course, one calibration is not enough to destroy the infrastructure. So Gerashenko rejoices early. As for the whole, I personally see the limited resources from the couch: air defense prevents bombing, and it is extremely difficult to disable tunnels and bridges with missile strikes, plus large aviation forces are spent on strikes directly on Ukrainian troops and near rear areas. There is not enough power for everything. Calibration from the sea is carried out in waves as ammunition is replenished from the factory, since the pre-war stocks of missiles have been used up.
  26. Scientist_
    Scientist_ 2 June 2022 08: 57
    0
    Quote: Konnick
    And the tunnel in the Cordoba region collapsed for a short time, after 5 days the movement began. It is very difficult to collapse a tunnel in rocky rocks.

    That tunnel was not collapsed. Mina set fire to a train with coal, which for a long time could not be extinguished. It was enough for the Francoists to postpone the offensive, for which they were able to prepare and repulse.
  27. Vic Vic
    Vic Vic 2 June 2022 09: 04
    +1
    It is not clear for what reason the tunnel was not decommissioned immediately with the start of mass deliveries of foreign weapons to Ukraine.
    Did you think that maybe later, in a peaceful life, it would come in handy?
    1. Two
      Two 2 June 2022 09: 15
      +2
      hi There are enough whisperers - hucksters from both sides! Whisper, smear and that's it!
  28. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 2 June 2022 09: 05
    +1
    I would warn that a low-yield nuclear strike would be launched against this tunnel, I would suggest taking people 10 km away. Well, it is impossible to destroy this object with conventional weapons, the most for a warhead of a couple of kilotons. Let them look for suicide bombers who will lead the train.
    Our right to use nuclear weapons is not prohibited by any international act.
    1. Taimen
      Taimen 2 June 2022 09: 57
      +2
      During the Patriotic War, our sabotage groups operated perfectly. And where are they now? Saved again on the security of the country. And again there is no one to answer? Traders and usurers who rule in the country even forgot that a donkey with a bag of gold will take the city where the regiment cannot cope. They will tuck this bag into themselves.
      1. Viktor Sergeev
        Viktor Sergeev 2 June 2022 12: 46
        0
        And what will the sabotage group do? Blow up a couple of kg of TNT and a few rails?
      2. And W2
        And W2 2 June 2022 15: 17
        0
        Taburetkin dispersed the special forces?
  29. kig
    kig 2 June 2022 09: 12
    +4
    The British came up with a special tallboy bomb to destroy tunnels

    If there is electric traction, isn't it more efficient to regularly destroy substations?
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 2 June 2022 09: 40
      0
      To the extreme, diesel locomotives will be launched ... for freight transportation, the option is working.
    2. Viktor Sergeev
      Viktor Sergeev 2 June 2022 12: 45
      -1
      Yeah, one rocket costs under 6 million dollars, and it takes several to hit. Do not go broke sending every couple of days 30-50 million to the tunnel?
      1. kig
        kig 2 June 2022 16: 04
        +2
        And without this we will not go bankrupt? How many billions burn, shoot, fly every day?
        1. Viktor Sergeev
          Viktor Sergeev 3 June 2022 07: 50
          0
          It flies where it needs to, and most importantly, on business, the targets are quite destroyable, but throwing missiles into the wind is not the case, it is better to send them to the Lvov railway station.
      2. Maestro
        Maestro 2 June 2022 16: 37
        0
        ... one rocket costs under 6 million dollars ...

        Did you calculate this according to the "Indian contract" of 2006? Firstly, there were not only 28 missiles, but the entire complex - so you can safely divide by 2. Secondly, there is the "export price" of the products - we divide it in half. Thirdly, over these 15 years, the manufacturer has already established a serial technical process - and this is the most important thing in reducing costs.
        Therefore, it turns out that the price tag of "Caliber" is now 20-30 million ... rubles
        1. Viktor Sergeev
          Viktor Sergeev 3 June 2022 07: 52
          0
          And no one knows how much the Caliber costs for the RF Armed Forces, it's a secret, I read about 50 million two years ago, but I agree, it's cheaper than 6 million dollars.
  30. Two
    Two 2 June 2022 09: 14
    0
    hi You have to make sure everything goes down there! Both the old single-track tunnel and the new one! Let the cargo be pulled by tractors! And long and expensive...
  31. Ablet
    Ablet 2 June 2022 09: 14
    0
    If it doesn't work, then you have to repeat it. And why not test strategic delivery vehicles, they shoot them at the Kura training ground just like that :) Warn pin-owls that we will test NW delivery vehicles on the outskirts all summer long, put land mines on decommissioned poplars and forward for real targets on the outskirts. Still, testing on real targets is useful in every way. At the test site, the warheads hit, but they didn’t check at the others, so you need to check.
  32. megadeth
    megadeth 2 June 2022 09: 17
    +4
    The question is: - "Why only now"? It looks like someone from the fifth column at the top is trying to interfere with our military command. One gets the impression that the participants in "Military Review" give out and suggest to the RF Armed Forces what and how to attack.
    1. Ivan Ivanov
      Ivan Ivanov 2 June 2022 09: 27
      -4
      What kind of fifth column is this, I wonder, which can interfere with the high command?
      1. Third district
        Third district 2 June 2022 14: 19
        +2
        Quote: IvanIvanov
        What kind of fifth column is this, I wonder, which can interfere with the high command?

        This is the one that has firmly settled at the top and owns a large part of our natural and other wealth, since the beginning of the 90s. Chubais only left, but he could well come back.
      2. And W2
        And W2 2 June 2022 15: 30
        +1
        If your elite keeps money, children, families with us, then this elite is NO LONGER yours. (almost Tsy)
        Medved has a son in America, the owner of a network of gas stations and a distribution network, isn't it?
        The deputies' kids are West Point cadets, aren't they?
        Mizulina is beautiful! Tell me if there are sanctions against them? Need an answer?
    2. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs 2 June 2022 09: 57
      -1
      And if so: The "seamstress" sits in ONE place, "scribbles fabric". This "fabric" is brought from the "neighboring table". As soon as the "fabric" at the "factory" ends, the SEAMWORDER with the MACHINE will be transported to a new place. And ALL couch analysts think that it is necessary to transfer the typewriter to each flap in order to stitch.
      1. rotfuks
        rotfuks 2 June 2022 10: 18
        +2
        You put it so eloquently. Seamstress, fabric, sewing machine, tables. Do you live in Israel? It's there they know how to talk about simple things in such an ornate way.
        1. AleksT
          AleksT 2 June 2022 11: 20
          +2
          Quote: rotfuks
          You put it so eloquently. Seamstress, fabric, sewing machine, tables. Do you live in Israel? .

          There is an anecdote about this. A Jew was asked what he would do if he became king. He replied that if I were a king, I would live a little better than the king, I would also sew at home.
        2. Alex Nevs
          Alex Nevs 2 June 2022 19: 34
          -1
          laughing the words in quotation marks need to be changed. Here, yes, there is a difficulty. One clue "fabric=APU"
  33. Ivan Ivanov
    Ivan Ivanov 2 June 2022 09: 23
    +3
    Not even a month and a half has passed since the topic was raised. Did they get blasted after they began to arrive en masse from three sevens across Donetsk, before that the interests of business did not allow (which Baranets spoke about more than once)? In this case, our politicians are p.r.i.d.u.r.k. and complete, there are not enough swear words.
  34. rocket757
    rocket757 2 June 2022 09: 39
    +2
    The Beskydy tunnel has been actively used recently for the supply of foreign weapons to Ukraine. It was through him, according to some reports, that the American M777 howitzers and their ammunition were supplied.
    Military correspondents, as a rule, cut down the truth of the uterus ... but not all and not always.
    Let's wait for official statements.
  35. rotfuks
    rotfuks 2 June 2022 10: 15
    +1
    In general, it is strange why this tunnel was still working? Why was this window to Europe not closed at the very beginning of the events?
  36. Chikua
    Chikua 2 June 2022 10: 17
    +1
    Again belated half-measures.
  37. Ablet
    Ablet 2 June 2022 10: 27
    +2
    Perhaps you need a cruise missile with manual adjustment in the last leg of the flight (via a video channel from a cruise missile) - a hybrid of a KR and a kamikaze drone. Fired and forgotten is not always better. Then the consumption of missiles can be significantly reduced. It is clear that in this case there should not be an active electronic warfare from the enemy and the range will be up to 350 km (for example, modify the x-59). A fairly simple seeker can be installed on such a rocket - glonass + the ability to adjust by video in the last 60-120 seconds of flight.
    1. And W2
      And W2 2 June 2022 15: 34
      +1
      Commonly called a television sight. There may be different options.
  38. Sedoy
    Sedoy 2 June 2022 11: 58
    +3
    there are two of them - the old one, which is now on conservation (but they may well be used) and the new one ...
    they talked about the need to "close" it back in March ...
    however, our political generals chewed snot, obviously in favor of someone's pocket interests ...
  39. iouris
    iouris 2 June 2022 11: 58
    +1
    To strike and stop deliveries are different concepts. It is necessary to let the military solve such issues and demand a solution to the problem.
    1. And W2
      And W2 3 June 2022 12: 28
      0
      Or maybe relax and enjoy? Can you tell me how many generals sold Iraq and other countries? War is too serious a matter to be entrusted (ONLY (Qi Ya)) to the military. I agree with this requirement. So that they do not splash poison and saliva, I am from the same flock.
  40. Common sense
    Common sense 2 June 2022 12: 29
    +1
    Long overdue!
    If the enemy has such narrow and problematic places, while having great strategic importance, then it is not clear why this tunnel has not been attacked so far?
    1. iouris
      iouris 2 June 2022 12: 43
      +2
      The place is so narrow that it will be difficult to get into it. It's time to start demilitarizing Rzeszow. It is necessary to beat off the hunt for supplies, and not to chase the goods.
  41. 23424636
    23424636 2 June 2022 13: 12
    +3
    three months of war, but the slow-witted people in operational management finally decided, according to Poddubny, they slightly damaged the rails in the Beskidsky tunnel. Why didn’t they touch it before, supposedly they will build the interests of Russian business for export from Ukraine. So little that in a couple of days the flow resumed. So they also slightly injured the Amur Bridge in Dnepropetrovsk, and that, - the movement continues on it. It seems that the comrade managers give a warning. .
  42. Alexander X
    Alexander X 2 June 2022 13: 15
    +2
    Yes, from the first days it was necessary to block this tunnel. Okay, sorry for the infrastructure. But Western military equipment went, so to disable the way. Yes, they will repair it, then destroy the tracks again. Maybe the entrance to the tunnel can be collapsed. Don't wait until the last second. And the bridges in front of the tunnels are a much easier target, but all traffic will also stop immediately
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  44. Aleksandr Ivanov
    Aleksandr Ivanov 2 June 2022 13: 42
    0
    And there is nothing to comment on. Either blocked or not. To engage in sucking news is a perversion.
  45. alystan
    alystan 2 June 2022 13: 48
    +1
    The news is pleasant, and if in reality they seriously damaged, then it’s generally wonderful. But, the news is served by the military correspondents in their TG channels ...

    In order not to think that I want to criticize them indiscriminately, I will give the definition of a war correspondent:
    War correspondent - a correspondent who accompanies the army, air force and navy during hostilities and covers the events of the war in the press.

    I thought that military correspondents should cover what they saw with their own eyes.
    And the military commander Andrei Rudenko "draws" his news from Kyiv ...

    I repeat once again, if the news is confirmed, then it's just great.
    And if not? So we will sit and wonder what and how it was?
  46. 23424636
    23424636 2 June 2022 13: 51
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Ivanov
    And there is nothing to comment on. Either blocked or not. To engage in sucking news is a perversion.

    this is not a perversion, but a reflection. How is it that we hold Odessa, but alas, we miss the piece of iron and only slightly scold - you are wrong guys - this is not good ...
    1. dedusik
      dedusik 2 June 2022 15: 19
      +1
      “Everyone imagines himself a strategist, seeing the battle from the side” © Shota Rustaveli
      And here, it seems, we have solid strategists in stripes and with marshal stars soldier
      1. alystan
        alystan 2 June 2022 18: 35
        0
        Every captain dreams, sooner or later, to put on pants with stripes.
        Or maybe not everyone? wassat
        1. dedusik
          dedusik 2 June 2022 22: 03
          0
          "Thin is the officer who does not think to be a field marshal" © soldier
          I did not dream, and three big stars were enough for me. hi
  47. Common sense
    Common sense 2 June 2022 15: 23
    +2
    Quote: iouris
    The place is so narrow that it will be difficult to get into it.

    Surely it’s no more difficult than in a stand-alone tank or air defense system?
    With a caliber, it is certainly possible to collapse the arch of the tunnel at the exit, having previously driven a cruise missile inside towards the echelon with ammunition (it will explode and burn for a long time).
    Unless, of course, our intelligence is not sleeping (and it is not sleeping).
  48. Dmitry Karabanov
    Dmitry Karabanov 2 June 2022 16: 21
    +2
    Yes, these tunnels should have started to be hollowed out since February! The same "Dagger" is quite capable of causing subsidence of the soil, and even the collapse of the arch - and this is already a guarantee of stopping operation. And you can’t transport much on trucks, so you need to ruthlessly destroy the transport infrastructure!
  49. acetophenone
    acetophenone 2 June 2022 17: 39
    0
    Quote: PROXOR
    This is not just an air raid, but a full-fledged aviation operation

    So the operation! Or have our falcons now fired across the front line and quickly at their airfield? Or did they lie to us about gaining some kind of superiority and destroyed air defense?
  50. Awaz
    Awaz 2 June 2022 17: 41
    +1
    as I understand it, Estonians are sitting in the General Staff ... This tunnel had to be bombed periodically from the first month of the operation, when it became clear that everything went wrong .. As I understand it, there is not one tunnel, there are like two of them .. So bomb and bomb again..
    1. Maestro
      Maestro 2 June 2022 18: 35
      +4
      In addition to Beskidsky, there are 4 small tunnels and 43 railway bridges on the section of the railway from Mukachevo to Stryi, the destruction of which will stop the transportation of goods here