The leader of "Azov" announced the actual decision to surrender at the plant "Azovstal"

With the onset of darkness from the territory of the Mariupol Azovstal plant, the militants began to carry out their wounded "brothers", whose surrender was agreed today with the Russian Armed Forces. Recall that in the morning 10 Ukrainian militants left the plant under a white flag and entered into negotiations with the Russian side. The result was an agreement on the surrender of a group of wounded. According to the latest information, we are talking about 51 militants who are sent to the Novoazovsk hospital.

There were shots with the removal of the first wounded militants of Azov (* an extremist group banned in Russia) from the territory of the Azovstal plant. The footage is shown by the military commander Andrey Rudenko on his channel.

Against this background, the network appeared the appeal of the leader of "Azov" * D. Prokopenko, who announced "the only right decision." According to him, “the Mariupol garrison held out for 82 days, which allowed the Ukrainian troops to regroup and receive foreign weapon».

In the appeal, the militant says that the decision is connected with "saving the life and health of personnel."

Prokopenko, justifying the actual decision to surrender, says:

Saving personnel - this is the highest level of command and control. Especially if your decision is supported by top management.

Prokopenko's announcement about the decision to surrender, veiled under the wordy useless pathos about the "plan B":

Comments

[Common sense]

Ore gone?
Why did they wait until night?
Here is a hundred poods of some kind of meanness from them will be. This whole evacuation is very much like a screen for someone to escape.
Indeed, in the daytime, in the light of the sun, it is much more convenient to take out the wounded from the ruins than in the dark.

[kapitan92]

Quote: Common sense

Why did they wait until night?
Here is a hundred poods of some kind of meanness from them will be. This whole evacuation is very much like a screen for someone to escape.

I agree with you. Acceptance of the wounded only during daylight hours.

[Olesya Lesya]

I'm even more afraid of the meanness under the word "agreement". There is infa from military correspondents that they are under surrender and on the conditions that they will definitely be exchanged. After that, I'm really angry. Is it really going to happen, and this is our loss will be unambiguous. Will our politicians go for it, using our "humanity".

[kapitan92]

Quote: Olesyai Lesya

Will our politicians go for it?

Wait and see.
A very interesting situation turns out, the wounded Natsiks are being taken to the hospital, where they should be treated by doctors, honey. personnel whose relatives may have been destroyed by the same Azov people.

Quote: Olesyai Lesya

I'm even more afraid of the meanness under the word "agreement".

There is such a thing!

[Tatyana]

I do not share this humanism! To the Nazi beast, this humanism, as history has shown, will not be justified in the future! Only the grave will fix the hunchback!
We did the right thing with our enemies during the Second World War! If possible, do not take enemies prisoner! Namely.

During the Second World War, our crane soldiers told recruits:
- Until the WAR is over - shoot the enemy! Until he had time to raise his hands!
That was GREAT wisdom Red Army soldiers and people in the sense of domestic expediency to destroy the enemy from those who were at the front and in the rear and forged VICTORY over the Nazis during the Second World War!

And everything else that is now being done with the capture of Ukrainian Nazis: their cure and other humanism towards them - this is pure pro-Western liberalism with a taste of the Russian "5th column"!

[Procopius Nesterov]

You are talking nonsense, in the Stalingrad cauldron, they fully agreed on the surrender of the German grouping.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Procopius Nesterov

You are talking nonsense, in the Stalingrad cauldron, they fully agreed on the surrender of the German grouping.

First of all. This command "above" decided so.

And secondly. From the army of Paulus, who surrendered, 91 thousand people were taken prisoner. You can't shoot everyone!
And "below" - on the line of fire - only our scouts of the so-called. "languages" of the enemy!

And thirdly. In Mariupol, at Azovstal, Ukrainian punishers made their own grave! Let them stay there.
They are MILITARY CRIMINES - and we need them like a goat button accordion!

[Procopius Nesterov]

Armies, divisions, fronts are led by the command. As then, so now. You do not confuse operations, and the personal decision of a soldier, to take or not to take prisoner, in a specific tactical battle. You have rotten tantrums.
Secondly, in 1941-45, multimillion-strong groups fought, 50 times larger. So if you divide 91 thousand by 50, you get a comparable figure in terms of scale.
And I’ll add, the surrender of the enemy must be encouraged in every possible way, since this will lead to even greater surrender. And this weakens the enemy. You do not understand this, and in vain.

[72jora72]

And this weakens the enemy. You do not understand this, and in vain.

But I’m wondering if one of those who demand mass executions and executions would take up this matter himself.
PiSi. Is it really not clear that those taken prisoner dung, this is a very valuable resource ..., and visual propaganda so that the rest quickly surrender.

[Ka-52]

But I’m wondering if one of those who demand mass executions and executions would take up this matter himself.

why mass executions? It’s just that during the battle you don’t need to offer the enemy to surrender. In many units there was a rule - you need to surrender BEFORE the battle, and then it's too late. Therefore, it did not come to executions. The enemy in arms must be killed, that's all. A grenade into a trench or dugout (or into the basement in the case of Azov) is the last point.
But this is from a soldier's point of view. And from the point of view of politics, the surrender of the Azov people is better than their destruction. Since their defense is a tool of dill propaganda. And their surrender will already be an instrument of our propaganda. Here you are right

[Tatyana]

Quote: Ka-52

But I’m wondering if one of those who demand mass executions and executions would take up this matter himself.

why mass executions? It’s just that during the battle you don’t need to offer the enemy to surrender. In many units there was a rule - you need to surrender BEFORE the battle, and then it's too late. Therefore, it did not come to executions. The enemy in arms must be killed, that's all. A grenade into a trench or dugout (or into the basement in the case of Azov) is the last point.
But it's from a soldier's point of view.
And from the point of view of politics, the surrender of the Azov people is better than their destruction. Since their defense is a tool of dill propaganda. And their surrender will already be an instrument of our propaganda. Here you are right

The unreasonable, venal-liberal pro-Western SUPERhumanism in Russia over the past 30 years has nurtured in Russian society, in fact, a "5th column" in politics as well.
Only Kolya from Novy Urengoy in the German Bundestag with his speech about the German invaders "innocently" killed in the USSR is worth something!

And now those who do not understand this and deliberately confuse the essence of what is happening are working in the same direction - hypocritically eclectically and confusingly essentially rewriting the history of the Second World War on the battlefield in favor of the hated enemy - in favor of Russophobes and neo-Nazis!

[Ka-52]

Urengoy's knees are not at all in the topic of the topic under discussion. This trash needs to be disenfranchised to know. Since that's how they were raised.
As for the prisoners, I expressed my thoughts clearly. Before the battle, taking prisoners is both normal and correct. By definition, it is not worth taking prisoners in battle, because the enemy who was not forced to surrender did not repent, did not understand the destructiveness of his struggle. It must be destroyed. As for the Azov people: they deserved to be killed 1000 times. But the decision and the moral right to kill or not to kill the enemy belongs to the one who is currently holding the gun. Not you and not me. If a soldier of the DPR army or the Russian army saved the life of a prisoner, it is not for us to judge him.
And yet, all the same, the captured Azov people will give us more from the point of view of propaganda than if we bury them in ruins

[Tatyana]

I just agree with you!
I do not agree with those who are trying to present the Ukrainian Nazis in the basements of Azovstal as "innocent" victims who deserve supposedly tolerant mercy and save them in favor of the Russophobic West, which is waging war with us!

Why bring a non-surrendering enemy to captivity, and then to executions? If it is possible and necessary, simply destroy it on the battlefield!
It is clear that things will not come to the mass executions of captured Nazis - especially in such numbers!

Quote: Ka-52

Urengoy's knees are not at all in the topic of the topic under discussion.

Very much on topic, if you look two steps ahead.

And yet, all the same, the captured Azov people will give us more from the point of view of propaganda than if we bury them in ruins

However, the matter does not end there.
But then the whole NEWEST post-war WORLD history AGAIN with success for the collective West in politics will again, as it is now, return, as they say, to square one - to the WORLD PROXY war of the USA against Russia!

[72jora72]

And yet, all the same, the captured Azov people will give us more from the point of view of propaganda than if we bury them in ruins

I’m telling you about this, Lysychansk, Severodonetsk, Slavyansk, Kramotorsk are still ahead ...... and if the Ukrainians see a good example that you can just give up and not go to feed the worms ...

[bk316]

It’s just that during the battle you don’t need to offer the enemy to surrender.

So during the battle, no one offers.

[Unknown]

Quote: Procopius Nesterov

And I’ll add, the surrender of the enemy must be encouraged in every possible way, since this will lead to even greater surrender. And this weakens the enemy. You do not understand this, and in vain.

The wounded themselves, and there is a demoralization of the remaining units. Seeing constantly in front of you, crippled, not receiving help, dying from wounds of "brothers", the desire to fight quickly disappears, it is this that leads to mass surrender. Otherwise, we’ll take the wounded, the rest will continue to shoot. Complete surrender of the living, the wounded. During WWII the command of the Red Army never took the wounded Fritz from the encircled groups for treatment to our rear, leaving the rest to continue to fight. It couldn't even cross my mind. But everything is possible with us. According to the battalion commander of the militias clearing the plant, this decision was made at the highest level. What surprises will be presented to us at this level remains to be seen.

[Alex777]

Quote: Unknown

Complete surrender of the living, the wounded. During the Second World War, the command of the Red Army never took the wounded Fritz from the encircled groups for treatment to our rear, leaving the rest to continue to fight. It couldn't even cross my mind. But everything is possible with us. According to the battalion commander of the militias clearing the plant, this decision was made at the highest level. What surprises will be presented to us at this level remains to be seen.

Don't expect any surprises. All 2227 snouts are for rent.
And ours will sort them according to merit. Some
not soiled in serious crimes, will be exchanged for
our prisoners. The rest will be handed over to LDNR.

[Unknown]

Quote: Alex777

All 2227 snouts are for rent.

I wanted it to be so. .But for now [According to the commander of the Vostok battalion, Alexander Khodakovsky, at present, another group of militants ready to surrender is waiting to exit to the surface through a tunnel controlled by the battalion's fighters. According to him, the "Azovites" set a condition not to film the very moment of their surrenderb][/b], only are preparing , while still setting conditions. The impudence is going through the roof.

[Alex777]

Quote: Unknown

I wanted it to be so.

So it will be. They ran out of water and food.
And they come out in portions according to the readiness of the hosts.
They also need to be shredded, sorted, escorted ...
Therefore, let them stand in line for delivery and wait ..

[Unknown]

Quote: Alex777

So it will be

Wait and see.

[Alex777]

In the morning they were still cheered up by shelling ...

[oleg eremenko]

That's right, surrender must be stimulated, otherwise they will fight to the point and how many of ours will be put. But the exchange cannot be done, because they will again be at the front. They must work out feeding by working in the rear to restore the damaged.

[hagen]

Quote: Tatiana

First of all. This command "above" decided so.

Today, the command "at the top" has a certain number of captured Russian soldiers around their necks, who must be returned to their families. You don't have any worries. And there the maneuvering area is somewhat limited. And then, information about the humane attitude towards prisoners seeps into the camp of the enemy and somewhat dilutes their stamina, especially those who were forcibly called up in the last waves of mobilization. I think there are many motivations in the behavior of our leadership that we may not suspect. Therefore, they should not be suspected of treason, and even more so to give rise to doubts about their devotion to the country on empty conjectures, and even in public statements. This is more like betrayal. Today we are with them, our commanders, one team. And even if we may have different opinions on some issues, in war we are obliged to support them in every possible way. There will be peace, then we will analyze our actions and give them a well-deserved assessment.

[Jager]

The Germans surrendered when they began to freeze, food and ammunition ran out. And of course our artillery gave life.

[Alex777]

Information is being confirmed that the wounded defenders of Azovstal will be exchanged for captured Russian soldiers.

I'm not 100% sure that's the case. But even if it is 90% so, then it is necessary
save our captive boys. No options, no doubts.

[Magpie]

Well, more recently they said that there is no exchange, only captivity!
Another week and people like you will be in favor of letting everyone go to a third country!

[alexmach]

They said that there was no way out of Azov with weapons and during the parade, but only captivity. And that after captivity is another matter.

[Alexander Vanichev]

But isn't the exchange through captivity?

[bk316]

But isn't the exchange through captivity?

Of course through captivity.
The Khohloreikh cannot simply recognize the surrender of his most legendary unit.
Therefore, propagandists from 404 come up with all sorts of nonsense in order to make a win out of zrada.

NOW LET'S COUNT HOW MANY OF THEIR AGENTS ARE HERE IN THIS THREAD.
- magpie (Denis)
-shde (Denis)
- OlesyaiLesya (Olesya)
-Ashape (Rostislav)

Read carefully their comments, pay attention to the time of registration and nicknames - you will have no doubt where the Cossacks were sent from.

Their technique is very simple: you need to convince
- that our officers and generals and the Supreme High Command are completely traitors (you can expect anything from traitors)
- that captivity is not captivity but evacuation (it doesn’t matter that it’s just moving to a prisoner of war camp sounds different)
- that they exchange not prisoners (but who then?)
- that the dung beetles have already caused us enormous damage (which means they completed the combat mission)

Have you read? Did you understand that this is an exact repetition of arrest officers and other Nazi propagandists?

I HAVE A QUESTION WHY THEY HAVE NOT BEEN BANNED FOREVER YET? Gentlemen admins and moderators, ay ....

[Alexander Vanichev]

Well, we are adults and thinking people and we immediately recognize the French carriers of bloomers.

[bk316]

Well, we are adults and thinking people and we immediately recognize the French carriers of bloomers.

I do, and the majority here, too, yes, but there are many people in the world who are easy to fool their heads.

[Magpie]

Are you funny) if a person thinks not like you, is he immediately from the outskirts? Go treat your head, it seems you have reviewed the nightingales with the first channel, although judging by the fact that you are looking for a black cat in your head, you have a current of sawdust!

[bk316]

Are you funny) if a person thinks not like you, is he immediately from the outskirts?

And I didn't say from the outskirts, I said agent.
Maybe a Westerner, or maybe our liberal traitor.
And the second, of course, is better, because the day will come, we will find and call to account.
Well, about "think" it's better to keep quiet, you just copy-paste it does not mean to think. And this is not an opinion, this is an article of the Criminal Code.

[Magpie]

Article of the Criminal Code? You definitely reviewed Solovyov’s head there, heal your brains, it will be easier to live!
And yes, I can throw off the address so that you come and look for me!

[bk316]

Article of the Criminal Code?

Certainly. The spread of fakes.

There is infa from military correspondents that they are under surrender and on the conditions that they will definitely be exchanged.

Another week and people like you will be in favor of letting everyone go to a third country!

Now it remains to prove that the act was committed by a group by prior conspiracy. And you will meet with your manure workers in the pre-trial detention center. He remembers the Internet like that.

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Magpie

Well, more recently they said that there is no exchange, only captivity!
Another week and people like you will be in favor of letting everyone go to a third country!

I read a bunch of words from all sides, BUT I always judge by deeds, not by words at all ..... I see surrender .... what are your complaints about what is happening?

[oleg eremenko]

I'm afraid that there is no one to save, the beast is the beast.

[Andrey Kuligin]

no need to touch the bright memory of veterans of the Great Patriotic War with dirty provocative hands ... my father went through the whole war, was wounded, but I never heard such obscene words from him ... on the contrary, he told how they were taken prisoner and shared dry food with hungry prisoners Germans at Stalingrad...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Andrey Kuligin

told how they took prisoners and shared dry rations with hungry captured Germans near Stalingrad ...

In general, the people were stunned. Flood, wall up, poison with hydrogen sulfide ... Where does what come from?

[Fat]

Anger is growing, and along with anger, social deviation is growing ... At least in words

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Andrey Kuligin

no need to touch the bright memory of veterans of the Great Patriotic War with dirty provocative hands ... my father went through the whole war, was wounded, but I never heard such obscene words from him ... on the contrary, he told how they were taken prisoner and shared dry food with hungry prisoners Germans at Stalingrad...

This is a vivid example of what a person turns into, with the constant viewing of Solovyov.

[Alexander Vanichev]

The winners already felt like the future winners of fascism, and therefore were good-natured to the starving and frostbitten Fritz.

[Fedorovich]

Do you propose to slide down to the level of slavurok? Or is he a slavaurka and disperse the hysteria?

[Pravodel]

We did the right thing with our enemies during the Second World War! If possible, do not take enemies prisoner!

The SS, punishers and their henchmen were not taken prisoner. If they were captured, then the court-martial and the gallows in the square in public.
They also dealt with the SS, their henchmen punishers and partisans with traitors.

[Alien From]

The rats ran off the ship, nothing more.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Alien From

The rats ran off the ship, nothing more.

The rats themselves believe that they are "deserved rats".

"the Mariupol garrison held out for 82 days, which allowed the Ukrainian troops to regroup and receive foreign weapons"

At least some kind of overwhelming, but I need to draw on myself.

Did Paulus near Stalingrad also give someone time to regroup?

[Sergey M. Karasev]

Did Paulus near Stalingrad also give someone time to regroup?

He made it possible to withdraw 1 TA from the Caucasus, which was still turning our blood in Ukraine.

[dmi.pris1]

Even before execution, a person must be healthy! ... But yes, what did these one-legged and one-armed people do today? After the investigation, if there are no war crimes against them, change them to ours. Why do we need these cripples? Let Zelya feed them.

[ShDE]

Judge with broadcast and bring the verdict under online! If on the sly, then they stir up an agreement

[Alex777]

Quote: Olesyai Lesya

I'm even more afraid of the meanness under the word "agreement".

Your opinion on military affairs is very valuable.

[Magpie]

Strange, isn't that what a military site is for?

[Alex777]

Your rating says everything about you.
Rest, soldier of the invisible front.
And we will take our guys from captivity.

[Magpie]

I’m on the side of the rating, unlike you, I don’t distort it

[Alex777]

You don't know anything about me. Good luck.

[Magpie]

Ok, let's keep your secret.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Olesyai Lesya

I'm even more afraid of the scoundrel under the word "agreement". There is infa from military correspondents that they are under surrender and on the conditions that they will definitely be exchanged.

On the other hand, our guys in captivity are also not sweet, somehow they need to be pulled out. Any exchange is needed.

[Alex777]

Quote: Piramidon

Any exchange is needed.

100500% yes.

[kapitan92]

Quote: Piramidon

On the other hand, our guys in captivity are also not sweet, somehow they need to be pulled out. Any exchange is needed.

Who's stopping you? We have over 3000 captive Ukrainians!

[Fisherman]

More ... ours already claim that about 4500 dill are in our captivity ... and more than 1500 from the basements of Azovstal are being prepared ... the dill is still slowing down our about 500 (according to their statements, there are most likely a lot of civilian "separs" there, because even 2 weeks ago their ombudsman stated that there were no prisoners for the exchange).

[flicker]

that about 4500 dill are in our captivity ... and more than 1500 more from the cellars of Azovstal are being prepared

And there will be even more after Zelensky’s statement:

Zelensky said Ukraine needs soldiers from Azovstal alive

The question arises: why should other military men of Ukraine die?

[Fisherman]

I agree with you right now ... this is the first domino bone standing on the edge, then everything will fall faster .... the Khataskrayniks will wake up in a moment "since they don’t kill and feed in captivity, what for to fight?".

[Alex777]

Quote: flicker

The question arises: why should other military men of Ukraine die?

Zugzwang at Zelensky.

[flicker]

Zugzwang at Zelensky.

And it seems like a long time ago. Nothing about his family. Probably held hostage by some British, one wrong move and one of the family "hangs himself on a scarf" or drowns in the sea.

[Alex777]

I came across her "photo in white" on the Cote d'Azur.
She was there when our people stood near Kyiv.

[Alex777]

Quote: kapitan92

Who's stopping you? We have over 3000 captive Ukrainians!

This is a question for Zelensky. Why doesn't he take his own and let ours go.
You delve into the topic. And then I don't have to ask rhetorical questions.

[kapitan92]

Quote: Alex777

. And then I don't have to ask rhetorical questions.

Didn't I actually ask you questions?

[Alex777]

Quote: kapitan92

Didn't I actually ask you questions?

Yes, I reported a little.

[kapitan92]

Quote: Alex777

Yes, I reported a little

It happens!

[Alex777]

Quote: kapitan92

It happens!

For our victory!

[Alex777]

965 for May 17 and 785 for today. Total - 1750 prisoners in 2 days. There is a record. Under Poroshenko, they did not lose so many prisoners at a time. Debaltsevo and Ilovaisk are not even close. Even such military "geniuses" as Geletei-Ilovaisky and Muzhenko-Debaltsevsky could not show such results. Zelensky and his gang could.
And it's not over yet...

[Alex777]

Great news. Three of our prisoners from "Azovstal" came out together with the surrendering AFU officers.

[Alex777]

Kalina left Azovstal yesterday evening - military commander Dmitry Steshin

Steshin in his telegram channel reports that the deputy commander of Azov, Svyatoslav "Kalina" Palamar, left Azovstal yesterday at about 21.00 to voluntarily surrender.

Apparently, it was he who came out with our prisoners ...

[Myths]

Against this background, the thought flashed and why the exchange of prisoners was suspended by Ukraine. But these rabid killers will still drink a lot of blood, it’s good if they get to the first line if they are returned, there is a chance that fate will overtake them. But then again, how many of these will kill people before that.

[bukhach]

This is unlikely, they will make an icon of them and send them to cities and villages to talk about their heroism and Russian atrocities, they will definitely send them over the hill to all continents where there is a Ukrainian diaspora, for propaganda and agitation, I think that this will inspire many Ukrainian nationalists new "exploits". Remember Nadya the helicopter pilot.

[Alex777]

Quote: Buhach

This is unlikely, they will make an icon out of them

No one remembers how Paulus fought, but everyone remembers how he surrendered.
There will be no icon. They will try to forget such a division of the "basics".
Instead of "Azov", Zelensky is already creating a new brigade of Nazis.
And they chose the name without hesitation: the "Galicia" brigade.

[kenig1]

Olesya, Polenitsya, everyone will live in prisons.

[Fitter65]

Quote: Olesyai Lesya

There is infa from military correspondents that they are under surrender and on the conditions that they will definitely be exchanged.

Military correspondents personally only leaked this information to you in secret? Or someone else with the same knowledge?

[g1v2]

Perhaps you did not take them prisoner? So what right do you have to decide what to do with them? Humanity is always a pretext. If it will be possible to exchange our pilots or officers for wounded ghouls, then we must change. And I think the command will somehow survive your tantrums.

[Moore]

Olesyai Lesya, is this a new manual? You don't have to be angry. We need to think - who will be better off if the medical facilities of 404, already overloaded, will also be occupied by these wounded Nazis. Let them. Russian soldiers do not fight with cripples and do not mock the helpless. And the rest of the ghouls are waiting for many hours of thoughtful conversations with the investigators. Nobody is going to change them.

[Olesya Lesya]

VSUshnikov - of course, it is necessary to change to ours for sure. But Zele and his gang need an exchange of the Azov killers - that's what I'm talking about. He doesn’t care about the vushniks themselves, after all, he doesn’t even worry about 4 thousand prisoners.

[KERMET]

Quote: Moore

Nobody is going to change them.

Verified information directly from headquarters?

[Vend]

Quote: Olesyai Lesya

I'm even more afraid of the meanness under the word "agreement". There is infa from military correspondents that they are under surrender and on the conditions that they will definitely be exchanged. After that, I'm really angry. Is it really going to happen, and this is our loss will be unambiguous. Will our politicians go for it, using our "humanity".

What else is a loss? Our guys need to be pulled out of captivity. Well, they will exchange disabled people who will not be able to fight later, investigative actions have already begun. Each of them will get their own.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Common sense

Indeed, in the daytime, in the light of the sun, it is much more convenient to take out the wounded from the ruins than in the dark.

They were there for a month. So at night they are much better.

[Alex777]

Quote: Mordvin 3

They were there for a month.

We sat, lay... Let's sort... LDNR to help us.

[Alexander Vanichev]

Rather, they do not want the whole world to see surrender. Although you can still repeat it during the day ... We can repeat it.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Common sense

Indeed, in the daytime, in the light of the sun, it is much more convenient to take out the wounded from the ruins than in the dark.

Ghouls different always feared the light of the sun!

[Fisherman]

so these are the Bandera people ... scoundrels in the blood .... well, how not to try to quietly withdraw NATO officers and the leadership of Azov under the guise? To deceive the Russians for them is a holy act! I hope ours tightly hold both land and water!

[svoit]

Quote: Common sense

Why did they wait until night?

They hope that later they will not be led through the streets of Mariupol under escort and during the day. They think that our good spotlights were not delivered and there will be no beautiful picture

[Mikhail Alekseev_2]

any harm, Ukrainians are simply obliged to proclaim in peremoga)))

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Mikhail Alekseev_2

any harm, Ukrainians are simply obliged to proclaim in peremoga)))

They have strange "victories", they have a strange logic of warfare.

Saving personnel - this is the highest level of command and control. Especially if your decision is supported by top management.

As far as I remember, the "top leadership" did not give them an order to surrender.
In addition, I thought that "the highest level of command and control" is the fulfillment of a combat mission. And "saving personnel" is only a means to fulfill the order.

Some perverts...

[iz odessy]

lecture, the last video - military art as a justification for surrender

[Victor_B]

Deal with these bugs now...
Heal... Feed... Protect...
What is it now? We won’t get fresh and heal again, cherish?
Maybe even tattoos with swastikas for them? For nothing.

[Vitaly.17]

Quote: Victor_B

Heal... Feed..

It can be treated in different ways. Amputation and a prison hospital for such will be just what they need.

[Victor_B]

Even suicide bombers were not executed until they cured of all sores!
Law...

[Stepan S]

not executed until cured of all sores

All diseases cannot be cured.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Stepan S

All diseases cannot be cured.

I believe that the scratches were not treated.
Well, the bullet helped well against cancer.

[SSR]

Quote: Victor_B

Heal... Feed... Protect...
What is it now? We won’t get fresh and heal again, cherish?
Maybe even tattoos with swastikas for them? For nothing.

Well, Israel, he treated the Nazis, with swastikas, but it seems like for money.
I can post a link and posted it.
Just annoying, double "truth".

[TatarinSSSR]

When the LDNR court sentences him to the tower, he will sing other songs. I hope that such a fate awaits him and his gang.

[Baloo]

Quote: TatarinSSSR

When the LDNR court sentences him to the tower, he will sing other songs. I hope that such a fate awaits him and his gang.

Do you think he is in Mariupl? Clean, well-groomed, it doesn’t look like an inmate in the basement at all, again, apartments.

[Alex777]

Quote: Balu

Clean, well-groomed, doesn’t look like a cellar in the basement at all

As my grandmother used to say about these:

Painting in a coffin.

[TatarinSSSR]

Perhaps he had already crawled out of there along some passages for the elite, or he had previously been taken out by helicopters. But if so, then his own people will be kicked for fleeing and for abandoning the fighters. In any case, dog death.

[KERMET]

What the hell tower, you were clearly hinted that this is an action to save the lives of the personnel of these heroes, we have already agreed

[TatarinSSSR]

We don't know. The fact that they agreed, like there is something there, is broadcasting ukropropoganda. Don't get fooled.

[KERMET]

I wouldn’t have fought if I hadn’t seen the video of the surrender, calm faces, they didn’t put a single one face down, they didn’t lead a column with their hands on the back of their heads - we didn’t go in comfortable buses

[TatarinSSSR]

You must understand that these frames will spread throughout the world. In all media pictures, and in the West too. Russia complies with international conventions on military prisoners. This is precisely what they show - that despite the fact that this is an enemy, and hatred for him goes off scale, we preserve the rule of law and humanity, unlike the security forces of Ukraine. It is important. And you can put your face roughly into the ground at any time - but this will only increase Russophobia in the Western media. No one will be released, everyone will be judged according to their crimes and actions.

[Roman Efremov]

I assumed that one of these days they would start to give up. Well, it makes no sense for anyone to give up - then they will go for the last breakthrough - either pan or gone.

[your1970]

Quote: Roman Efremov

it makes no sense to give up - they will then go for the last breakthrough - either pan or gone.

They would have gone a long time ago ... if they could ... if there was enough courage - but the punishers never had it

[TatarinSSSR]

Those who were really brave and stubborn have already left or tried to make a breakthrough earlier, and most often they are already rotting among the ruins. Remained either weak, or cowardly, or those who want to live but are afraid of being shot by their own for surrendering.

[Roman Efremov]

Theoretically, you can sit in the dungeon for years if you have canned food and water. Someone will sit up to the stop. But they already knew that they would not be saved. Then it's over anyway.

[Cowbra]

The Ukrainian night is dark... After all, the manure needs to be hidden away... And now, drug addicts, alcoholics, parasites... Who wants to go gilyak?

[Victor_B]

Quote: Cowbra

Who wants to go on a gig?

In turn female dog children!

[Chikua]

Surrender, by hanging. Scum!

[2я19]

Carry out the heavy at night through the ruins? What for? What are we hiding? Can't we wait until morning? Something or someone should not (should not) light up?

[Alexander Vanichev]

It's a shame, and the trousers are full.

[Common sense]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: Common sense

Indeed, in the daytime, in the light of the sun, it is much more convenient to take out the wounded from the ruins than in the dark.

They were there for a month. So at night they are much better.

They might be better, but we? Now there is the noise of din, pandemonium, the light of lanterns and the silence regime (you can’t shoot). The only chance for someone to try to quietly sneak past the posts. There is also not a solid fence around the plant with thorns and machine-gun towers. There are plenty of holes. Now the most favorable situation for seepage in small groups.

[72jora72]

Now the most favorable situation for seepage in small groups.

Dear, do you have any idea about the situation on the territory of Azovstal? Outside the perimeter there, even cockroaches will not leak ....

[kill the fascist]

It would be better, of course, they finished them all there, but since they give up ... They will have to heal and then "reward" in accordance with their merits.

[Vladimir M]

I don’t understand why go to meet these eccentrics with the letter “M”? Unconditional surrender and in the daytime...

[Odysseus]

The solution is, of course, epic. 21 seriously wounded and 30 relatively healthy "evacuated" to the hospital .. Let me remind you that these people have been killing Russians for 8 years, on their hands the blood of hundreds of our fighters and God knows how many civilians. Now they will be treated. And then they will be exchanged and become heroes of Maidan Ukraine. And most importantly, looking at them in Slavyansk and Lysichansk, the rest of Bandera will do the same. Kill our soldiers, prisoners, civilians, and then demand "humanitarian corridors", treatment, and calmly wait for the return to Maidan Ukraine ....

[Negruz]

What immediately "exchange"?
What kind of sketches?

[Odysseus]

Quote: Negruz

What immediately "exchange"?
What kind of sketches?

We now have about 5000 prisoners (according to official information). Bandera has a maximum of 500 (together with the DPR / LPR). 10 times less. We do not need prisoners from Mariupol for the exchange. However, there are no exchanges. Why ? Bandera demand precisely Azov. On our part, there were no official statements about the inadmissibility of exchanges of war criminals and members of organizations banned in the Russian Federation. On the contrary, theses are thrown in such as - we will save our prisoners, and we will "evacuate" the wounded Bandera.
The commander of Azov, on the other hand, speaks insolently about the implementation of the decision to keep the trained soldiers. There is not even a formal surrender.

[Negruz]

So there are no exchanges...
What to throw?

[Odysseus]

Quote: Negruz

So there are no exchanges...
What to throw?

There are no exchanges precisely because Bandera do not want get their APU-kov, they need Azov. Moreover, representatives of the Maidan authorities threatened to "withdraw from the negotiations" (as if we needed them) and to kill our prisoners if something happened to their precious bandits. Now they will threaten this if there are no exchanges.

[Negruz]

Let them threaten...
What to throw?

[Alexander Vanichev]

An additional wedge between the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Azov. Azov is over the mustache ... Aryans of the Saloreikha - exchange in the first place?

[Simple]

Quote: Odyssey

they will exchange

No one promised to exchange them.
No need to freak out.

[Odysseus]

Quote: Simple

No one promised to exchange them.
No need to scare

Answered above. And the horror is how our authorities are conducting this "special operation". It's not even horror, it's a horror movie. And how it could end is hard to even imagine.

[Simple]

And the horror is how our authorities are conducting this "special operation"

.
Choby so to argue, it is necessary to have validity in the incorrectness of the actions of the authorities of the Russian Federation.

[AVA77]

Come on, don't freak out. Someone will be exchanged, someone will be imprisoned, perhaps someone will even end up exponentially.

[Odysseus]

Quote: AVA77

Come on, don't freak out.

Yes, really something to be nervous about. A gang of scumbags killed God knows how many of our people, tortured, robbed, raped. And instead of destroying the scum, we arranged dances with a tambourine for a month, allowed them to bring some of theirs to Zaporozhye (at least 7 were at a press conference), and now we will treat them, feed them and listen to their threats about killing our prisoners if they don’t exchange.
There is nothing to worry about. Everything goes according to plan.

[AVA77]

Well, yes, let's just zero out all the prisoners, on both sides and there will be no threats.
Are you serious?

[Carlos Hall]

Send them to work in Siberia. As for captured Western mercenaries, put a price on each in exchange for money captured from Russia.

[Crete 25]

We do not need this scum in our Siberia. Maybe send them to your city?

[benefit]

Before, I thought that these non-humans should be destroyed when trying to surrender, but when you remember the families of those Russian soldiers and officers who are now in captivity ... you begin to feel this grief, anxiety and monstrous stress experienced by those close to our guys who you can still save by exchanging for these Nazis.

[spirit]

But what about Valhalla? "Glorious" sons beat themselves with a heel in the chest that they would stand to the end and from Azov-steel they would be carried away by the Valkyries

[tralflot1832]

Valhalla after May 1945 does not accept Natsiks to the resort, the Valkyries, only a charter to hell, the "Boiling Cauldron of Pitch" airfield, when the main airport is overloaded, there is an alternate "Hot Frying Pan" airfield.

[Simple]

Glory to Ukraine

I forgot to zigzag.

[rocket757]

Prokopenko's announcement about the decision to surrender, veiled under the wordy useless pathos about the "plan B":

. And who else is out there?

[Procopius Nesterov]

According to reports, about 300 militants surrendered and only 50 of them were injured.

[rocket757]

Hasn't arrived yet?
This means that arguments are needed, more substantial, for them ... burial.

[Sasha from Uralmash]

The founder of GavnOzov, Biletsky, is finished! And why write this scum into the ringleaders!

[Mavrikiy]

The leader of "Azov" announced the actual decision to surrender at the plant "Azovstal"

And this is not Poligraf Poligrafovich? Well, it's very similar...

[iouris]

Humanists. Interestingly, did Zelya manage to orient himself and give the command to surrender, Schaub to prevent anarchy?
If things go badly, everything possible should be done to make it look good (Murphy's Law).

[Andrey VOV]

If the exchange, then do not change the Vushnikov, Azov people.

[GNM]

I looked three times and did not understand what the wounded man had in his mouth.

[-ш-]

his flip-flops are fashionable)

[tralflot1832]

Judging by the lack of reaction on ukrosites, tomorrow morning we will have many wonderful discoveries.

[Arkady007]

Somehow there is respect for Prokopenko, with all the hatred towards him.
Why don't our generals go on the air like that and say what they think and do.
Somehow it hurts so much for us everything is tricky. And there is an assumption that not every soldier knows his maneuver.

[Chronos]

Just in case, whatever dill propaganda broadcasts, even if they go for an exchange right tomorrow, they exchange prisoners of war for prisoners of war, which means they surrendered.
For those who have respect for Prokopenko, I suggest you remember what the people of Azov were doing and tearful requests for extraction.
By the way, if you believe the captured brigade commander Baranyuk, the main one there is not Prokopenko, but the brigade commander of the National Guard, where did he go?

[Blade3]

Why don't our generals go on the air like that and say what they think and do.
Somehow it hurts so much for us everything is tricky. And there is an assumption that not every soldier knows his maneuver.

You have seen the comics. Maybe voice all the plans of the General Staff?

[Arkady007]

You don't need everything.
But only the names of those who were removed for miscalculations.

[GNM]

Time 22.23. On the RT telegram channel, there is a video https://t.me/rt_russian/110856:
According to preliminary information, about 300 militants left Azovstal. About 50 of them were wounded. They are now being taken to the Central District Hospital of Novoazovsk, where they will be provided with the necessary medical care. The rest were taken away by buses in the direction of Yelenovka.

[t-4]

It is necessary to take them to the wall, for good.

[Napayz]

I won’t say exactly who I read in the “cart”: only the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be exchanged. And then, after a thorough check.

[Chikua]

There is an idea to process them into stew and return them as humanitarian aid back to the cellars of Azovstal

[Antor]

Now we will see the attitude of politicians to the future fate of these non-humans, and if it is not as it was declared in relation to the Nazis, the court of the DPR, up to execution for numerous crimes ...., then this will be that red line of trust in the long-suffering people of Donbass which cannot be crossed. It is impossible to repeat the historical mistakes of Khrushchev on the amnesty of Bandera, whose seedlings today are watered with the blood of many innocent people, the fallen soldiers of Donbass and Russia ... and I think this should be understood by everyone, as well as the level of this beast, for the salvation of which many fit in, up to the UN Secretary General

[Crete 25]

Now Anti-Mosquito Spray (or whatever it is, Repellant) will appear and tell you how very wrong you are.

[Third district]

There are plenty of these types here. These are the guards. They just have a job.

[Colombian_cocaine]

they sat there for themselves for three months, and now they will be sitting in prison for 30 years on a bottle) aren't they clowns?

[Andobor]

Quote: Colombian_cocaine

and now I will sit on a bottle for 30 years in prison

Don't worry, the DPR uses the death penalty.

[Cowbra]

Quote: GNM

I looked three times and did not understand what the wounded man had in his mouth.

the same as any Svidomo now I understand that it's gone, but it's true

[Scientist_]

Why this partial surrender of only the wounded? It is only necessary to accept a general surrender. Either everyone or no one.

[Andobor]

Everyone surrenders, more than 2000, the wounded are going to be exchanged for our prisoners, one to one.
- There are more of them, but what can be considered wounded.

[Tusv]

We will cure and send to the restoration of Donbas at an accelerated pace

[Revolver]

Hospital-court-loop. Or a uranium mine.

[Common sense]

Quote: Tatiana

shoot the enemy! Until he had time to raise his hands!

Everything is correct. But the enemy raised his hands. Would you like to shoot anyway? And how will we differ from them then?

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

Prokopenko's announcement of the decision to surrender, veiled under the wordy useless pathos about "Plan B":

***
For you alone plan - "p"...
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[Common sense]

Quote: Fisherman

2 weeks ago, their ombudsman stated that there were no prisoners already for exchange

So they most likely killed all of us. They just have no one to change.

[Skiff]

Well, since we agreed, they won’t find any Canadian generals and British special forces and Natsiks there either, there will be only unfortunate servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

[Dikson]

.. As I understand it - they "surrendered" at night, in order to "lose" the necessary and important foreigners under the guise? Why did the US Secretary of Defense cut off the phone?

[Alexander X]

In Russian captivity, according to the media, there are about 4500 dill. Here they are to be exchanged for our captured soldiers.
And the Azov people are criminals. They can only be judged and exemplarily executed for their crimes. Azov criminals and murderers must not be changed under any circumstances!

[Retvizan 8]

"According to him," the Mariupol garrison held out for 82 days, which allowed the Ukrainian troops to regroup "...
As always, out of "zrada" it is imperative to make a "overcome" and as much pathos as possible!
But in fact they received zvizdyuley, they surrendered the city, lost part of the personnel, surrendered and did not receive any extrakshina, even blessed for the whole world.

[George Koval]

Cure and execute... Animals in human form should not live! Only the grave will fix them

[riwas]

With the onset of darkness from the territory of the Mariupol Azovstal plant, the militants began to carry out their wounded "brothers", whose surrender was agreed today with the Russian Armed Forces.

What about the wounded? Anyone who comes out and takes out must be taken prisoner.

[certero]

Quote: Tatiana

They are MILITARY CRIME - and we need them like a goat button accordion

Whether a criminal is a person or not must be decided by a court or tribunal.
Even Nazi executioners with their hands covered in blood were tried before they were hanged.

[Chikua]

What court? Execution on the spot after the surrender. Can you remember what they did?

[certero]

So, after all, our access to water was found and blocked.
I really hope that there are no political agreements that are akin to betrayal.

[Chikua]

Nah_re_na do they need to be alive in captivity? They put so many peacekeepers and our guys ....

[Million]

Why do we need them alive? Do you think they will be re-educated or appreciate humane treatment? I don’t think so.

[swyatoslav]

But what about "we will die, but we will not surrender?". Windbags.
Worthless talkers who can only torment civilians and hide in burrows.
I hope that those of them who survive after the trial in the DPR will get a lot of impressions from the places of detention. And he will come out of them, morally even more broken and devastated than now.
Do they think it's bad for them today??? It's only the beginning...

[KERMET]

There may not be a trial, they will exchange it and again it will be possible to shout about "we will die and not surrender"
Now they have simply exhausted their reserves for resistance, why would they need to die senselessly? The agreement will definitely

[Rage66]

How much metal is in the voice?
And after filtering "speech" there is zilch.
"We surrender with the approval of the leadership, because we want to live. Glory to Ukraine!"

[APASUS]

I would have gone out in a T-shirt, completely pretending to be a civilian. Where is the armor, watch, uniform?

[Tarasios]

Quote: Common sense

Ore gone?
Why did they wait until night?
Here is a hundred poods of some kind of meanness from them will be. This whole evacuation is very much like a screen for someone to escape.
Indeed, in the daytime, in the light of the sun, it is much more convenient to take out the wounded from the ruins than in the dark.

They don’t want video and photo recording of their “evacuation.” Well, maybe it has already grown into the subcortex of this evil spirit - to carry out all your business under the cover of darkness;)

[Petrik66]

Bravo. the most interesting thing is just beginning...... Somewhere, in the warm offices of the bourgeoisie, many interesting people felt stuffy. We remembered the story about how Adik awarded his fellow Slegon, the screwed-up General Paulus, the rank of field marshal. With a sweat - even if he died like a human being, he, acting according to the principle (You lived on the cheap and you'll die with.....) did not shoot himself, and then he also gave evidence to his accomplices. So here too, they’ve already given everyone heroes, and they’ve stirred up another heavenly ten thousand, they’ve taken their wives around Europe, they’ve reached the Pope, but they still don’t want to convert to Islam... so it’s just a stone’s throw from the tribunal. History repeats itself.

[iouris]

In fact, this decision is heroic.

[Orca]

Quote: Alex777

Some
not soiled in serious crimes, will be exchanged for
our prisoners. The rest will be handed over to LDNR.

And do the LDNR need them, the remaining dirty thousands? For what? - let me ask. Do you really think that these soiled ones will be useful - they will restore what they destroyed in the Republics in 8 years? You are a naive person.

[Common sense]

Quote: 72jora72

Now the most favorable situation for seepage in small groups.

Dear, do you have any idea about the situation on the territory of Azovstal? Outside the perimeter there, even cockroaches will not leak ....

And apparently that’s why they still find well-trodden paths and holes from dungeons?
So why repeat nonsense about cockroaches and flies from older comrades?
Have you been to the industrial site for a long time? For any. You can hide a herd of elephants there so hard that you'll find horseradish.

[Common sense]

Quote: Tarasios

They don’t want video and photo recording of their “evacuation.”

I hope that we will soon find out what they really “didn’t want” there.
I’m really looking forward to seeing the prisoners of “non-Russian appearance” and the actual Azov leaders come out.
If they aren't there, I don't even know...

[trentren]

Brest Fortress